The Fumblerooski Podcast - Look Like A Pro -Ep 258 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: March 30, 2024

The Jets are at it again trading for Haason Reddick, are they going all in? Are pro days replacing the draft when it comes to overhyping prospects? Where do JJ McCarthy and Malik Nabers rank among the...ir positions? CJ Medeiros and Justin Tucker debate these topics and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hassan Reddick is the newest big name to be traded this NFL offseason. Also, some college football stars are having their pro days today, and some of these draft rankings have just gotten really, really weird. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
Starting point is 00:00:29 He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Good evening, everyone, and happy Easter weekend. You are listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Web Consulting. I'm your host, CJ Medeiros. With me, it's everyone's favorite Ravens fan, my good friend and co-host, Justin Tucker. How's it going? How's it going?
Starting point is 00:01:00 It's going well, Justin. How are you doing? It's been a while. I'm doing good. I'm free today. I'm enjoying myself. Hey, that's what we want to hear. So, as mentioned earlier, we do have some stuff to go over. Of course, like I said, the Pro Day. We're going to talk about some of these stars that dazzle up their Pro Days.
Starting point is 00:01:21 But the Pro Day doesn't really mean anything. Like I said, you know, me, I happen to enjoy the draft. I can't say the phrase or else Adam's going to beat me, but we're going to be making sense of some of these draft rankings. But first and foremost, Hassan Reddick has been traded to the Jets. Now, for those who don't know, this happened yesterday, and Reddick was traded from the Philadelphia Eagles to the New York Jets for a conditional third round pick that could become a second. So first and foremost is right off the bat. Taka, what do you make of this?
Starting point is 00:01:55 I think I don't even know how to make of this, because usually when a team trades for a great pass rusher. I'm like, yes, I'm all for it. Yes, they're actually trying to win. But it's the Jets. And he has to play at MetLife Stadium. That's Achilles' hell. I don't want it. Hassan Redick is a great player.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And so for them, I think it's a great pickup. However, I just worry about that damn field. Other than that, I think it's a great pickup. However, I just worry about that damn field. Other than that, I think it's a great pickup for them. Hopefully he can help that defense more than it already has because they were a great defense last year. I don't see them slowing down. Just adding another piece of that defense. Hopefully they can pick up some pieces on offense and they might look like a serious contender in the afc yeah see the reddick thing makes me wonder how close the jets to contention because i believe it was myself adam and chris who are not with us today that were having a debate over are the jets ready to
Starting point is 00:03:02 contend are you know like because you know they got guys like Tyron Smith, Mike Williams, a one-year deal. And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Redick have one year left on his deal anyway? Something like that. So I don't get it. Are they going all in? That's my point. So is this officially, like, all in for them?
Starting point is 00:03:29 Because whether or not we think they are at this point is irrelevant. My point now becomes that they are all in. For them, it could very well be boom or bust this year. Yeah, but that's all depending on if Aaron Rodgers can stay healthy. We saw last year that he couldn't stay healthy. Not his fault. His line was made of... That field's a death trap. You know it.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah, and then the whole line is made of paper mache, so no one is safe around that team. It fell apart from the moment he got on the field, which is unfortunate. Hopefully he can come back stronger than ever, but he's closer than 40 than he is to his prime. So there's that. But if he can just stay healthy for the whole season, yes, I do believe that they
Starting point is 00:04:17 are a threat. The question remains though, can he do it? The jury's still out, but hopefully, fingers crossed he can, because if he's on on the field they are a legitimate contender in the afc in my in my opinion yeah so jets fans also are able to breathe the sigh of relief because aaron rogers will not be rfk juniors vp i was pulling for just because it would have been funny but but all jokes aside yeah I mean I don't know how much of a threat they are but it's clear they fancy themselves a threat and this really is all in for them isn't it like this is like do or die time because you mentioned Rogers is unironically closer to 40 than he was then you know then his actual prime and well i don't know this is just a bizarre jets team because they're good but
Starting point is 00:05:17 no one's gonna be like oh we were circling them on our calendar you know yeah because the buffalo bills though they've been decimated they still have josh allen and josh allen will find a way to win you know when he's not baking turnover so i seem to ignore that's impossible yeah alan will find a way to win provided it's the regular season and the dolphins i mean granted they're all flash and no substance but that flash has gotten them 70 points before. And New England is just, well, they're just kind of there. I mean, obviously, they're a scrappy team, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But everything aside, though, I mean, I wouldn't say it's the Jets' division to lose, but they're priming themselves. And I like the Redick trade, especially since they lost their other edge rusher there bryce huff ironically to philly so they go to philly and say all right we're gonna get hassan reddick who's arguably an upgrade because last season hassan reddick had 11 sacks and like what is it like 38 tackles or something because they use him strictly as an edge rusher and once he's allowed to tee off on the quarterback he is deadly yep and the year before that he was a defensive player of the year candidate so they are getting a good good pass rusher to that team it's just a matter of can their offense be good enough that the defense
Starting point is 00:06:39 doesn't have to do everything for them yeah i think as long as they have Rodgers, they will, at bare minimum, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but at the barest minimum, he can at least be a game manager. I'm not saying he will be. I'm saying that is the absolute hardest floor, like the bedrock. Yeah, and that's all they really need, to be honest. They just need good quarterback play. And while you're going from Zach Wilson to even though he
Starting point is 00:07:12 might not be in his prime, but still Aaron Rodgers, I'd take over Zach Wilson right now. And I think you would, too. Yes. Of course I would. I just don't think Zach Wilson should have been out there to begin with, but I digress. Well, that's not really his fault he did kind of get screwed yeah so on that happy note we are going to keep chugging along here not from to our next topic but just some other frequency tidbits that
Starting point is 00:07:36 i think we need to address so uh justin our resident ravens fan, Jadavian Clowney is gone. I believe. From a Ravens fan perspective, just where do you stand on that? Is this like big? Is it not? Like, this is what it hurts. We wanted him back. We wanted him to sign back.
Starting point is 00:07:58 He went there for a visit. He left me. We're like, okay, we still have a chance. Turns out he signs a deal for two years, $20 million. I was like, can we keep Kyle Van Noy? Please? We need some veteran pass rushers on our team right now. We lost Jadavion Clowney. We can't lose Kyle as well. So hopefully we can keep Kyle at least. I don't know who else we're going to sign as a pass rusher right now or who we're going to trade for. I believe in Ojabo and I believe in Owe, but they haven't shown significant improvement as pass rushers. So I would like a little bit more veterans on our side,
Starting point is 00:08:39 but who knows? If we can just get another veteran, I'd feel a lot better for rushing the passer but until then it's looking a little iffy it's looking a little iffy right now i'm not gonna lie yeah so the thing is with jadevian clowny right he's obviously not the big name to be feared that he once was but he is you know former number one overall pick and i think teams have to respect that especially since after coming off a dismal second year in cleveland he came back as baltimore's edge rusher and last season had 43 combined tackles nine and a half sacks along with like five passes batted at the line and two forced fumbles. So let's not pretend that he's some scrub. I mean, Carolina gave him, what was it, like two years, $20 million?
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yep. So, yeah, I definitely think that that's going to bolster a young Panthers team that, you know, just trying to build something. I think like some good better – They need everything. They need everything, especially since they lost Brian Burns. Well, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Then again, I wouldn't trust David Tepper to build Rome. Now would I? No, you wouldn't. Some other stuff that we can also talk about. Josh Reynolds, I believe. He's a... It's not the biggest news in the world but you know he did go to the denver broncos and why do i bring that up because is josh rallins a household name no
Starting point is 00:10:18 he's not but he did have like as like the wide receiver three last season in Detroit, 40 catches, 608 yards, and five touchdowns. Good player. That's pretty much receiver three if I do say so myself. Yeah. And Denver is reeling from the loss of Jerry Judy. I believe that Tim Patrick is no longer there. Can you confirm? I don't – I think he is, but let me check to make sure.
Starting point is 00:10:46 No, yeah, no, he's there. Never mind. They just restructured his deal. So you have Tim Patrick, you have Jerry Judy, and there are mounting rumors that Cortland Sutton may or may not want out. Come on, Cortland. Just come to the Ravens. That's all I ask.
Starting point is 00:11:01 We didn't get Jerry Judy. Just come to the Ravens. Just come on. I need a big body receiver. You'll be fine. You should have signed Devontae Parker then. I don't want Devontae Parker. I want I want Courtland Sutton.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah, well see that's basically some of the latest free agency news. We're in that weird real we're just in like the real doldrums between the first two weeks of free agency you know and the draft so that's basically it essentially yeah so we are gonna move on so up, we will discuss some of the pro days that have gone on and whether or not they actually mean anything
Starting point is 00:11:52 and how much of an impact should they have. All next on the Thumbelerski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski Podcast brought to you by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Web Consulting. I'm your host, CJ Medeiros. With me, as always, well, not really as always, but we're happy to have him back, my good buddy, Justin Tucker. So, well, I did say we're kind of in that weird doldrums area between gearing towards the draft because as of this recording, it is March 30th, meaning that there's less than 48 hours until April. And kids, you know what April brings, not April showers, but the NFL draft. And pro days are happening left, right, and center, and two people that had extremely notable pro days are Malik Neighbors and who could forget J.J. McCarthy. So this is one of those times where you really wish Adam was here because if you've listened to the show before,
Starting point is 00:13:23 Adam has just really pounded the pavement for the Washington receiver, Roma Duns, for his number two, obviously behind Marvin Harrison Jr., who let's face it, is the best prospect. But I don't know. Malik Mabry's pro day was just different. Justin, what'd you see out there? Well, I saw the clear cut number two wide receiver in this draft.'m sorry everybody else there's a couple of wide receivers i want from my team but unfortunately we won't get them because we're the ravens and we're allergic to prosperity when it comes to wide receiver spot hopefully zay flowers pans out hopefully but when i saw malik tape uhik neighbors, I keep doing that for some reason.
Starting point is 00:14:13 But when I saw the wide receiver to the LSU wide receiver come out, I thought he's the obvious first round talent. And if it was any other year, he'd be the number one wide receiver. Unfortunately, the guy in Ohio State is just a freak of nature and he's going top three. So with that being said, any other year he'd be number one, the obvious number one. It just so happens he's going out with the best wide receiver or talent in the past 10 years easily. Yeah, Justin, I agree. I do.
Starting point is 00:14:41 So the thing with Malik Neighbors was that originally, right? Here's the thing. The LSU pro day was supposed to be the Jaden Daniels show. And don't some of these balls he was hauling in, just the routes were great. And honestly, I think he's going to be a menace wherever he goes. Yeah, I think so too. Where do you think he'll go realistically? You know, I think I don't want to spoil anything, but that's probably going to be more so our next segment. Justin, got you. Got you. I think he's going to go at least in the middle of the draft. I don't think he'll make it late in the draft. I don't see him falling past 10, but that's as far as I'll say on that.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So there's another pro day that you and I have to discuss real quick. J.J. McCarthy out of Michigan. Did you see some of the absolute dots this kid was doling out, just showcasing the arm, showcasing the mobility, showcasing what some would call pro readiness? I'm going to be honest with you. J.J. McCarthy was not someone that showed up on my radar. Wasn't even paying attention to J.J. McCarthy this week, because I thought he was going to be a late first round pick, not an early second round pick. I didn't really think of him in the same stratosphere as like being in the top choices as Caleb Williams and Drake May. But for some reason, he keeps creeping up and creeping up.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And now, after his pro day, he might be the third or fourth best quarterback in this draft. I don't want to take him over Jaden Daniels. That's why I got him number four. But outside of that, he's creeping up on a lot of people. He might be better than we all thought so i will once again when it comes to the rankings and who's better than who i think we can break that down next segment but jj mccarthy that pro day was insane and to be fair does he boast the nfl readiness just from a trait standpoint i I would argue that he does, you know, the prototypical quarterback size.
Starting point is 00:17:08 He's like a 23. I mean, he's six, three. He's like, you know, 21 years old. He's just, you know, he comes from the coaching of, uh, Oh, no, not Noah much as a, you know, Jim Harbaugh it's not like you know they want me the chip or anything and i've said this about jj mccarthy where i'm kind of hot and cold on him i don't really know what to make about him and they just say oh but he was carried by that michigan team that elite michigan team but i've said this on the podcast before and i'm gonna say it again you guys will not like to hear it but it's something you need to hear.
Starting point is 00:17:47 When we talk about this elite Michigan team that carried J.J. McCarthy to relevance, I would like to pose you a question. How many of these other elite players are going to go in the first round? Not a one. Yeah, not even the running back, because running backs don't do well yeah don't usually go in the first round I would say if it were like five years ago maybe uh oh a Blake Cora might but but that's a big word that's a huge actually more playing this game. So just the rise of J.J. McCarthy has been nuts. And when we look at how his pro day has influenced his draft stock,
Starting point is 00:18:32 I mean, I would actually argue that some teams might need to draft J.J. McCarthy's PR team instead because they're marketing the heck out of this kid, and a lot of analysts see it working. Yeah. marketing the heck out of this kid and a lot of analysts see it working yeah now this this is the uh the new deal here so we all remember another hyped quarterback class yeah 2021 that featured Trevor Lawrence Zach Wilson yeah Trey Lance Justin and matt jones that was a pretty hype class and look at where they are now and a lot of these guys namely looking at zach wilson you know were just had a huge boom because of their pro day and I just, I don't know. So it's time we ask ourselves the question of the hour.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Does the pro day really mean anything? Because I feel like the pro day, now this is my hot take, I believe that the pro day has usurped the combine as far as overrating prospects, especially the quarterbacks. I agree to a certain extent. I have always said you treat the pro day the same way you treat the NFL combine. You treat it to confirm what you see on tape. I have always said you treat the pro day the same way you treat the NFL come on. You treat it to confirm what you see on tape.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Nothing else. I don't care if the guy all of a sudden is very fast. If he's not like that on film, I don't trust the speed. Number one. Number two, I don't care if this guy does X amount of weight on the bench. If he doesn't look strong, he's not like that to begin with. Number three, all I care about is how good a wide receiver looks when he runs routes, how good the quarterback looks when he throws the ball, and how good everyone else looks, basically. If they look like that on film, that just confirms everything I need
Starting point is 00:20:45 to know and whether or not where I need to draft them. If you're looking for anything else, I think you're doing it wrong, in my opinion. When I look at these quarterbacks, I hesitate because I think about that 2021 draft class, as you mentioned, and I think about Zach Wilson and the show he put on at his BYU one, it was impressive. Now let's look at Zach Wilson's career right now. It's not that impressive, unfortunately. Whether it's his fall for the franchise he was drafted to remains to be seen. But unfortunately, he's not looking too good right now.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So I hesitate to draft quarterbacks based on pro day. I will draft them based on what i see on film nothing else that i think is the right answer and like i said it's literally just becoming ridiculous how a pro day can skyrocket you. Because after Zach Wilson's pro day, everyone said he's the clear cut number two. And I actually wasn't on this podcast, but I at the time said, absolutely not. This is a terrible idea. If this is a hill, I'm willing to die. And I like to think I'm correct. But just,
Starting point is 00:22:11 I don't know. I like JJ McCarthy and I wish him all the best. But these pro days have got to scare him. I mean, heck, even a place as profoundly dense as an Instagram comment section knows. Because when you have all these guys, like the big four, you know, Williams, May, Daniels, and McCarthy. Even if it's like Caleb Williams, they're going to be like, yeah, nope, not trusting what I saw after Zach Wilson. Which, honestly, is a cautionary tale I think that these teams need to take heat of yeah but that's when it comes to pro days it's mostly for the quarterback is what i need there you know what i mean i see it i understand these are more for quarterbacks like wider sears for example malik neighbors i think i can trust a little bit more especially a guy of neighbor's caliber that i said when he goes to the league he's going to be a problem let's face it wide receivers, for example, Malik neighbors, I think I can trust a little bit more, especially a guy of neighbor's caliber.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like I said, when he goes to the league, he's going to be a problem, let's face it. But there's nothing that is more just – I don't know. There's nothing more inflating, but if it goes bad, nothing more deadly than a pro day for a quarterback at least that's the problem too it goes but it can go both ways too because if you remember justin herbert at oregon didn't look like justin herbert at the l at the la chargers but then you see his pro day and you see him throw 60 yards on off his foot like not even trying it It's like, okay, I see the potential. Why doesn't this show up on film all the time? And that's what kind of like concerns me when you look at prospects.
Starting point is 00:23:54 The pro day sometimes can work for you, but it also can work against you. Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. And like I said, it can tear you down or it can build you up just depending on how you do but be warned you could very well get fool's gold so that about does it for our third segment and up next we will have more draft coverage where we're going to make sense of some of these rankings and try to break some of the nonsense that you know that these kids pr teams put out once and for all don't go anywhere this is the fumble rooski podcast it may not have always showed it in the staff sheet but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back-to-back games where he has three
Starting point is 00:24:40 touchdowns someone's got to get that six or seven spot he's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides welcome back to the fumble ruski podcast brought to you by power d8 dean radio and secret web consulting i'm your host cj maderos with me of, is my good friend and my co-host, Justin Tucker. And now, kids, we've reached the final segment of our show with some more draft coverage. We're going to make sense of some of these rankings that come out. Now, let me tell you something. Call me a conspiracy theorist.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I'm going to put my tinfoil helmet on because it's the NFL. But I am under the impression that some of these. What was that? You know, it doesn't matter. There's no reason for it. And I am stupid. We kid. But I am starting to believe that some of these analysts, for lack of a better term,
Starting point is 00:25:46 just make mock drafts for the sake of just making them and trying to get a public reaction. I have no proof of this, but it's something I believe. Because I have a question. Did you see one of the newer mock drafts? I don't know who did it. What did you see? But it had J. mccarthy going third third if you believe it
Starting point is 00:26:10 that that is insane now every quarterback off the board just going number three overall my god ready for this it would appear that it is uh sport wait cbs hold on CBS Sports' Ryan Wilson has tabbed McCarthy as the number three pick in his latest mock draft ahead of Drake May and ahead of the draft's best prospect, Marvin Harrison Jr. You're telling me that Drake May isn't going number two or number three. He drops to number four. Yes, that is what the NFL media would have you believe for some reason. So that means Marvin Harrison's going number two. No, no, no. They have him going, I think, like this – the mock draft, if I recall correctly.
Starting point is 00:27:08 No, because you're telling me J.J. McCarthy is going number two otherwise because it would be Drake May, it would be Theo Williams, it would be Martin Harrison, and then it would be Drake May. it be drake may this is a horrible horrible list if it if that is if you're telling me so here's the thing right i'm looking i believe i've seen this mock draft if i recall correctly and i'm going to try to hunt for it just to make sure hey caleb williams going one of chicago jane daniels going number two to washington the patriots get jj mccarthy at three the vikings trade up to four with the cardinals to grab drake may and the chargers get Marvin Harrison Jr. at five. Now, I know on the show we don't use the word asinine a lot,
Starting point is 00:28:11 but that is asinine. This is a ridiculous draft. Who came up with it? No. Like I said, CBS Sports' Ryan Wilson, who – Now, look, I know that in the NFL we drug test players, but can we drug test this guy? But it's all right.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Look, Ryan Wilson, I respect the boldness. I do. But like I said, sometimes I wonder if they just have to push out content to get clicks. Did he make this after his pro day? It could very well. I don't even think so. So off rip he thought he was top three. Oh, my God. I don't even think so. This was. So off rip. He thought he was top three.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Oh my God. I don't know. I just, but better than Drake may. I mean, also, by the way, I don't remember who it was,
Starting point is 00:28:59 but I believe it was the former Packers quarterback, Kurt Benkert. Right. Yeah. Did you happen to see his quarterback ranking? This is why when I said making sense of the rankings, I literally meant it. Who did he put where?
Starting point is 00:29:13 I don't remember the terms that he used. He was putting quarterbacks in tiers, right? Oh, okay. I think I'm familiar with this. Oh, yeah. So he put quarterbacks in tiers, right? Oh, okay. I think I'm familiar with this. Oh, yeah. So he put quarterbacks in tiers, and
Starting point is 00:29:30 his literal bottom tier had Drake May. I think that's just how we see how he's going to project into the NFL. I think I can give more credence to that since he's been in the league. Yeah. NFL I think I can give more credence to that since he's been in the league yeah that's that's that's hard for me to believe yeah yeah because he had like the three tiers he
Starting point is 00:29:54 had like uh I don't know yeah what was it so yeah I Pro Football Network, it says NFL analyst gives shocking Drake May evaluation. You're like, oh, my God, an NFL analyst said this. But then you realize, oh, wait, it's Kurt Benkert. Oh, well, just take that opinion, make it like a spiral and just throw it away. Yeah, because once again, I feel like this is where you have to say shocking things, right? Is this where sports media is going, where we have to say shocking things in order to feel safe? It's the Netflix because it's the offseason. See, I want to sit down with these guys and see, like, do they actually believe this? I don't think they do.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Do they actually believe this? Because you can't. Unless you're getting in early. Oh, man. I don't... Over J.J. McCarthy? No.
Starting point is 00:30:57 J.J. McCarthy going over Drake May, do you really see that happening? Unless one of the GMs for each team, unless like Ryan Poles, the dude in washington or elliot wolf has a stroke i don't see it do you see uh where are the chargers at because that i see those could they trade them trading back well i don't think but i don't know and also just when it comes to mock drafts by the way i feel like i was unfairly harsh toward like wilson and benker i was just kind
Starting point is 00:31:30 of flabbergasted but for me strictly for me i just i don't know i don't I don't get it. And as far as I go, I think that either the Cardinals or the Chargers are going to trade back, probably with the Vikings because the Vikings have two first-rounders, ergo the most capital to trade up. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that that's probably a team that's going to take McCarthy. Because when i say making sense of the rankings not just about drake may is about jj mccarthy and there is something that we have to address i was about to say if if jj mccarthy and marvin harrison were there at five who do you think who do you think jim harbaugh would pick because yeah you okay look for jokes
Starting point is 00:32:24 but there is no way that you unironically believe he's going to take J.J. McCarthy when you have Justin Herbert. What are you going to make him do, play safety? He would not. He would not. I don't think he would pick Malik Harrison. I don't think he has it in him. I don't think he would pick Malik.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh, yeah, well, it is the Ohio State thing. Yes. But then again, he's not the J.J think he would pick Malik. Oh, yeah. Well, it is the Ohio State thing, but then again, he's not the GM. He would pick Malik before he picks Marvin Harrison. No. Wise. No, no, no, no, no. Wise. Come on now. Let's not be goofy here, Tuck. Come on, man. Imagine that does happen and
Starting point is 00:32:59 Malik does go ahead. Dude, if that does happen, I mean, you already know where I'm going to be on draft night, right? It's probably going to be me, Adam, and Chris at Buffalo Wild Wings. You would be invited too, but you're not close. You're not close. Graduated. I would probably just
Starting point is 00:33:16 choke on whatever I'm eating and or drinking if that happens. Would it be funny? Yes. Do I kind of want to see it? Now I kind of do. I don't know. But see, you mentioned how McCarthy's stock was ballooning, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And a lot of that isn't just because it was pro day, because his stock was already rising before that. And the reason is, for all intents and purposes, I do believe that the Chicago Bears, Washington Commanders, and New England Patriots are all locked in quarterback one, two, three. That is what I think. That is what I think will happen. If I had to take a wild stab, I would say Commanders are obviously going to take Caleb Williams. I think the Commanders will take Jaden Daniels, and I think the Patriots are going to take Caleb Williams. I think the commanders will take Jaden Daniels,
Starting point is 00:34:06 and I think the Patriots are going to take Drake May. Yeah. I can see them swapping, but I can see – No, no, no. That's kind of like a coin flip, you know, but I'm just going off of some of the recent data says. But it goes actually beyond that because the Giants are hunting around for a quarterback right and you're
Starting point is 00:34:27 at six so do you dare reach on jj mccarthy i have news for you you might have to because there are two teams in the minnesota vikings and the what we're what i'm now hearing the las vegas raiders the Las Vegas Raiders that are starting to, you know, throw themselves in some trade talks to move up. So you have three teams that desperately want a quarterback and they actually might reach on McCarthy. It's not a knock on McCarthy, but some of these teams, like there's just not enough like elite prospects to go around yeah because let's not pretend that mccarthy's in the same tier as williams daniels or may he's not i think i mean i have him frankly as far as like you know as a prospect is like a fringe first rounder, perhaps late first, really, really like first pick second round. But I don't know. I think he's getting picked in the first round.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Cause if he does pan out good, they'll need to pick your option. And it's not just that. I would actually tell you that it's not just that Justin. What would you tell me i think that it's not just you know that these teams want to trade up you know it's not that they want to reach it's just that we have seen especially in our most recent Super Bowl, how important the quarterback position is. Patrick Mahomes, outside Kelsey, doesn't have diddly or squat in the way of weapons,
Starting point is 00:36:11 and yet they won. So everybody wants to take a swing on the next big guy. Because you've got to remember, Mahomes, where did he come from? Texas A&M. What happened? Texas Tech. Texas Tech. Texas Tech.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Texas Tech. Oh, my God. I just had a massive brain fart and now that entire portion of Texas wants me dead. I am very sorry. No, no, no. I meant Texas Tech. I regretted it as soon as I said. I was like, oh no, Texas Tech. Where did my homes come from? Like I said, Texas Tech. What happened his rookie year literally nothing they sat him second year some people at the time thought of him as a reach full disclosure even though i was just a little children as it were i i wasn't i wasn't fond of him i said oh the He was my QB1. And I don't know. But when you see a guy like that who's considered a project, who has all the physical tools, well, you know, you kind of – like that's what the teams want to replicate, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:19 That's why that big, like tall, powerful, strong-armed quarterback mold has been taking off, you off, like with Josh Allen. He started out really rough, but now he's a top-five quarterback. That would explain the rises of guys like Anthony Richardson and Trey Lance. Yeah, I think they can – no, not Trey Lance. I don't think he's there. No, Richardson's got – Yeah, Richardson, yes, but I think it's sailed on trade lines.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Oh, yeah, it probably has. But I don't know with McCarthy. It's just, like I said, a lot of these quarterback-needy teams are going to trade up, and it's over-inflating his value. I'm not saying he's a bad prospect, but a QB-needy team is going to swing, and that is just how it is. Of course they are. I mean, would you rather struggle through another year of Danny Dimes?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Oh, Danny Derps? No, I would not. So, yeah, I would take a swing if JJ McCarthy is there and I want to trade up for something.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I would trade up for JJ McCarthy. Because I don't think I could do another year with Daniel Jones. Truth be told, I think that it's either the Giants, the Vikings, probably Vikings most likely, or the Raiders that are going to trade up. And I think that it's the Chargers that are going to be the team to trade back because Arizona, I know the trade back looks tempting, but come on, you cannot pass up Marvin Harrison Jr. You just can't. Give Kyler a new toy, especially since in the past two years, you've lost DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown, and Rondell Moore. Yeah, that's if they want to keep Kyler as their quarterback.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Well, with that deal they signed him to, it's not like they have much of a choice. They have choices. It was a stupid decision to sign that contract that they were going to put incentives like they tried to begin with. You make a very valid point, my friend. It is what it is. So these draft rankings are always weird. You make a very valid point, my friend. It is what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So these draft rankings are always weird. But again, it comes right after pro days, and all these drafts come out, and all these mock drafts come out. I don't take them too seriously because if someone has a great pro day, oh, man, they shoot up the draft board. It's like, come on now. Let's be realistic here. Let's look at the tape. Yeah. pro day oh man they shoot up the draft board it's like come on now let's be realistic here let's
Starting point is 00:39:45 look at the tape yeah so at the end of the day let's uh let's just hope that some of these rankings uh solidify more as we get into april but for now that's going to be the end of the show justin do you have anything to say before we head for home here? Hopefully there isn't anything shocking like there was last year when the Lions took Jameer Gibbs within the first 15 picks. Well, there will be, and hopefully it's not any of our teams that do it. But he did pan out well, to be fair for them. You know, he did, he did. That draft class was pretty darn good, if I do say so myself.
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