The Fumblerooski Podcast - Market Crash -Ep 258 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

On today's episode we welcome special guest, Draft Analyst for Sports Keeda, Tony Pauline! Tony Pauline gives us special insight on why Shedeur Sanders fell so far in the draft. Along with this CJ Med...eiros and Chris Costich ask him about draft winners and losers. Could this draft for the Patriots catapult them back into success? Could the Broncos have had a better draft? All this and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the NFL draft in its entirety has come and gone. As always, there are winners, there are losers, and there's a certain quarterback who took a tumble right to the fifth round. This is the Fumble Roosky podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-back games where he has three touchdowns Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides Welcome to the Fumbaruski podcast powered by power 88 Dean radio and seek web consulting I'm your host CJ Mede, with me is my good friend and co-host, Chris Kostich, and a very special guest,
Starting point is 00:00:48 Sportskeeda's own resident draft analyst, and one of the biggest fans of Led Zeppelin out there, Tony Pauline. First and foremost, Tony, how are you doing on this fine Tuesday afternoon? I'm okay. Weather's beautiful out in New York. The draft is over.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I can breathe a little bit now, and life will eventually get back to normal, or as normal as it can be for me. So I'm OK. Thank you for asking. Awesome. Well, at least you're not tethered to your phone as much. Hey, the news world moves fast. So sometimes you just got to move faster.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I totally get it. So first and foremost, when it comes to the draft, let's all address the elephant in the room certain quarterback or former quarterback for the Colorado Golden Buffalo's Shador Sanders fell directly to the fifth round and you were actually among the first to report on sports key to that he was dropping on draft boards and So before we get to Shador, how do you personally just grade the Browns in this draft?
Starting point is 00:01:51 I think they did a solid job. They get Mason Graham, they make that trade, they get one of the better players in this draft, and in doing so, they also get an additional first round pick in 2026. I think taking Dylan Gabriel in the third round was a little head scratching because they admit that he's going to be their backup quarterback. Why take a backup quarterback in the third round when there were a lot of other better
Starting point is 00:02:17 quarterbacks available to them? Let's see, who else did they select? Carson Swessinger at the top of round two, one of the best off the ball linebackers in this draft If you had read what I had been writing since the end of March It was a chance of Swessinger actually since the beginning of April. I think his individual pro day was April 4 Swessinger was one of the best off the ball linebackers in this draft. It's not surprising Quinchon junks a lot of people thought it was going to be Trevion Henderson. I understand the Quinshawn Junkins selection. It fits the mold of the type of ball carrier that they want.
Starting point is 00:02:50 He's a violent ball carrier. Harold Fanning Jr., really not too different from the player that they have on the roster right now, David Dijoku. I was a little bit surprised by that pick. I thought they got great value in Dylan Sampson in the fourth round. I thought he was more of a third rounder. And then of course, Shador Sanders, you may not like him. You may not like his father, but really anything out of the top 100 was
Starting point is 00:03:14 outstanding value for Shador Sanders. When you, sorry, C.J., real quick. When you look at this Browns draft, especially when you look at them trading out of the number two overall pick to go a couple spots back to number five, do you see, did you see this as more of like them waving the white flag? All right, we're starting over. Let's start out right. Let's get a big old draft capital out of it. Did you was that kind of the vibe that you got out of it? Not really. I mean, the Browns, I don't think they're that far away from being a competitive and winning team. They made the playoffs two years ago with Joe Flacco, who they brought back into the mix for this year. I mean, the problem with the Browns is the problem that a lot of franchises have.
Starting point is 00:03:58 They can't get the quarterback position right and the quarterback position is a drag on them. So I don't think it's that at all. In fact, I think they really fortified that defense, and they added some additional pieces on offense. Obviously, the offensive line is an issue if their starters and their top backup can't stay healthy, but they've got some good other pieces there. The Browns, like the Jets, a couple of other franchises, it's all going to come down to
Starting point is 00:04:26 the quarterback. And that franchise has been a graveyard for quarterback. We'll see if Flacco can, you know, bring back some of the magic he had with him two years ago. I thought that was a great signing. And now they've got 85 gazillion quarterbacks on the roster. Don't know what the heck they're going to do there. But I don't think it's waving a white flag. I think they said, hey, listen, you know, we like Travis Hunter, but we don't like him enough that we're going to take the use the second pick on him rather than trade back three spots and get an additional first round choice in two thousand twenty six. great point. So we got him now move on to Shador Sanders himself. Obviously back in December, he's considered likely the first overall pick. Flash forward to February, you know, you hear talk of, oh, who's this Cam Ward guy? Then you actually, like I mentioned earlier, one of the first to report that he was falling on a lot of teams draft boards. Then, you know, draft day comes and goes, he falls out of the first round,
Starting point is 00:05:27 not selected on day two, falls to round five. Have you, has this, can you compare this to maybe any other prospect? Like has there anyone who's been projected to go this high, who's just fallen? And we all know why, right? I mean, heck, Johnny Manziel. Why, I mean, do you know why?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Do you know why? I mean, he- I know why, but he's not the only one that has issues is what I was saying. Sorry, I didn't want to cut you off. I was just going to say, like, for example, Johnny Manziel had all those issues. Well, he really doesn't have issues. I mean, it was a media-driven story with no basis.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Now, to answer your question, could you compare him to any other quarterback that had a flaw? Let's look at Quinn Ubers. I mean, Quinn Ubers at one point in time was considered in the media as a top-10 pick, although he was never thought about that in the scouting community. And he fell into the seventh round. And Quinn Ubers did a lot more winning than Shador Sanders. I think the problem is it was a media narrative that never died. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:26 it was daily. People were just, it was thrown in your face. I don't watch ESPN too much, but the gym that I go to every morning, they have ESPN on every day. Is Shador Sanders going to go to the Cleveland Browns? Is he going to go to New York Giants? Is he going to be a top 10 pick? And it was nonstop Shador Sanders, and it's not going to stop. I mean the big story of Cleveland Browns camp is not going to be Mason Graham. It's not going to be Carson Swessinger. It's going to be Shador Sanders. But you really have to go back. You know you talked about December. You got to go back to the summertime and in the summertime NFL Scouts graded Shador Sanders as a mid-second round pick. So coming into the season Scouts didn't Shador Sanders as a mid-second round pick. So
Starting point is 00:07:05 coming into the season, scouts didn't even grade him as a first-round prospect. That's what the people who make the decisions thought of him. 2024 wasn't that great of a year for Shador Sanders. You can't sit there, you can, but as someone who watches film, I can tell you Shador Sanders' film in 2024 really wasn't better than his 2023 film. In fact, in many areas, it regressed. And oh, by the way, that guy that you mentioned, Cam Ward, his film was much better, really from the first game of the season against the Florida. You can tell Cam Ward was a completely different, a completely improved quarterback where you
Starting point is 00:07:43 couldn't say the same thing about Shidor Sanders. We're still making the same mistakes. Fundamentally, he's very poor, throws with poor footwork, throws off his back foot, holds the ball too long, tries to improvise too much, runs in reverse when he's being pressured. Those are things that are sometimes tough to coach out of a quarterback. Then you get into the postseason and the Shrine Bowl, when I started, you know, writing that Cam Ward was the number one quarterback in this draft, the Shrine Bowl and Senior
Starting point is 00:08:10 Bowl week, which I attend for 20 plus years now, that is the first and largest concentration of scouts and teams and coaches and general managers. And at that point, I started hearing Cam Ward's the number one quarterback in this draft. Kim Ward is highly as much highly rated as rated much higher than Shador Sanders who made a lot of mistakes in the pre-draft process. I wrote an article about it on Saturday. I'm sorry I wrote an article about it on it was Saturday before a day three started right before he was selected and went up as a matter of fact. And Shador Sanders shows up at the Shrine Ball. There's a lot of excitement.
Starting point is 00:08:48 He doesn't throw a pass. He comes out one day in street clothes, walks across the field the first day of practice and then he leaves town. Leaves a bad taste in people's mouths. Now you're heading towards the combine and it's pretty apparent now that Kim Ward is going to be the first quarterback selected,
Starting point is 00:09:02 could be the first pick of the draft by the Tennessee Titans or another team like the New York Giants or the Las Vegas Raiders who are going to trade up. Shador Sanders does nothing. Shador Sanders goes to the combine. He doesn't have good interviews, which has been out there. A lot of his interviews rub people the wrong way, and he doesn't participate in anything. Get every quarterback that was selected before Shador Sanders, whose name is not Kim Ward, compete through at the combine, shrine bowl, or senior bowl, and in many instances most of those quarterbacks did both. They were at the shrine bowl and combine, senior bowl and combine. Shador Sanders stood on the sidelines
Starting point is 00:09:42 with that glittery chain and the hat He did nothing besides have bad interviews You know, there's red flags that are going up all along and part of the problem is the Sanders family decided not to hire an agent And an agent would have helped navigate him through these choppy waters So the situation keeps getting worse and worse and you referenced that I was the one of the first people out there who said The combine his draft stock is falling yet. They did nothing to help it All they do is continue to commit unforced errors He goes to his bro. He goes to his pro day. It's pro day was okay
Starting point is 00:10:16 I was I talked to people who were there. I was not there. They said he was very nervous They said he was shaky. The ball was wobbly. They said at the very end, they did a simulated two minute drill. He's down the red zone. There's seven seconds left on the clock on the two minute drill. Just walks off the field, doesn't finish it. Scouts pull out to Colorado to watch him throw. So the pre-draft process, teams look at it as a precursor of the shape of things to come, and he's failing in that aspect.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And then there is the deon factor. You know, teams were concerned that if they selected Shador Sanders, if things weren't going the way Dion wanted them to go or the way Dion thought they would go, he would be very outspoken and critical of teams in press conferences that he has with the Colorado Buffaloes. And that's why they were hesitant to draft them. And then there's also the situation with the Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants. You have a head coach and a general manager and a short leash. If you draft Shidor Sanders very early
Starting point is 00:11:13 and the head coach is fired, everybody's gonna be screaming that they want Deion Sanders or that Deion Sanders should be the next head coach of your team. And that is a lot of headlines, aggravation, criticism that franchises didn't want to deal with. So I think that, you know, as you kind of prove that the Shador Sanders situation is more media driven, in large part
Starting point is 00:11:37 because of his name, than anything else. He was a good prospect. He wasn't a great prospect. He wasn't worthy off of the past two years of film to be a top 10 pick. He was a good prospect. He wasn't a great prospect. He wasn't worthy off of the past two years of film to be a top-10 pick. He was 13 and 11 at Colorado. He never really competed for a conference championship, never had his team in the mix for a national championship, as opposed to say Quinn Ewers, who the past two years was in the college football semifinals, has done a lot of winning on the college level since he was a freshman, had a lot of tools, people projected him as a very early pick, he falls into the seventh round, yet everyone's still talking about Shedore Sanders.
Starting point is 00:12:17 One thing that I wanted to touch on real quick that you brought up was the pre-draft, like the combine interviews, all the pre-draft interviews, right? And that seemed to be the biggest, one of the bigger talking points, especially right before he got drafted or right after. I forget when exactly a lot of this stuff started coming out. But one of the stories was that he had a terrible interview with Brian Dable and another one came out. I don't know if it was the same thing with the Giants or if it was with a different team, but it was like to the extent of he was wearing
Starting point is 00:12:52 too much cologne to the point where the coach had to walk out because he thought he was going to faint. It was, how true are those stories in that sense, I guess? I mean, I don't know about the cologne story. I'm not going to speak to it. I wasn't I mean I don't know about the Cologne story I'm not going to speak to it I wasn't there I don't hear it. The only thing that I heard about the interviews was teams were talking to him and it seemed like Shidor Sanders didn't care what they were saying. He had no interest in what the teams were telling him. The thing about the Shrine Bowl, the Senior Bowl, the Combine, even Prode, this is one huge job interview.
Starting point is 00:13:31 That's what it boils down to, with a future employer that's going to invest millions, if not tens of millions of dollars in you. So, you better be on your game. I had heard that, like I said, I had heard that he kind of seemed disinterested in what the coaches were telling him. I don't want to say he was above it all. That's the way it was kind of presented to me. And again, I mean, these are, you're supposed to be the quarterback of the team. You're the leader of the team. When you give off this persona, that's going to really turn a lot of people off, as I said, rub them the wrong way, as it evidently did. And I go back to the point that they never hired an agent. And the agent would have helped navigate them through the choppy waters. Again, whether they would have listened to it, I
Starting point is 00:14:24 don't know. But part of what an agent does is, you know, they get ready for the combine and they practice the 40, the start of the 40, the vertical jump, the position drills. They also role play interviews and the interview process because it's so important. People in the media will talk about the 40s, the combine, and the vertical jump. The two most important aspects of the combine are the medicals and the interviews. You could be 6'5", 310 pounds, run a 4'7", jump 38 inches. If you fail the medicals or the interviews, you're going to drop like a rock and that's what happened. That's one of the reasons why she Doris Sanders dropped like a rock. And that's what happened. That's one of the reasons why Shador Sanders
Starting point is 00:15:02 dropped like a rock. Yeah. So obviously it's now become a well-established fact that he had a really abysmal interview with the Giants. And pivoting from Shador a bit, I wanna talk about that the Giants obviously traded up for Jackson Dart. So my thing is
Starting point is 00:15:27 Would they I'm trying to think of like how to Word this but it's more of a so dable obviously was upset with him like Was it anything like specific because there was a report I believe it was on Sports Illustrated, where Dable corrected Sanders on something and he apparently didn't take too kindly to it. Can you speak to that at all? No, but it goes hand in hand with what I just told you. That Sanders, people I talked to who did interviews said that Sanders wasn't interested in what they were saying. So I
Starting point is 00:16:03 can't speak to that specific example, but it basically goes hand in hand with what I had heard and just explained to you. So when Diana Rossini came out to earlier today and said that the sources were telling her that they believe that the tumble probably could have played out a little differently if you actually had an agent, I feel like, you know, I don't mean there to, but she said that today. Tumble probably could have played out a little differently if you actually had an agent. I feel like She said that today Yes. Yeah, that's because I've been saying that since
Starting point is 00:16:37 Actually, I was I was at the Giants facility Sunday morning and I said that One of the biggest problems of this was the fact he never hired an agent as I've mentioned several times on the show Well, there you go So I'm assuming you saw the Milk Kuiper rant. I saw like 15 seconds of it. I basically watch NFL Network and work the phones, but I saw whatever was on social media. Do you have any thoughts on the Milk Kuiper rant at all? Yeah, I think it's foolish. I think it's utterly foolish. I think the rant would have been legitimate and credible if he said that certain franchises have no clue on how to evaluate quarterbacks, because that's true. The Cleveland Browns, the New York Jets. I mean, those are places where quarter quarterbacks young and old go to die
Starting point is 00:17:25 Whether it be early draft picks like Sam Darnold or Zack Wilson or Aaron Rodgers You know you look at the history of the Cleveland Browns Trading back into the first round to get players you mentioned Johnny Manziel before I cut you off I'm Johnny Manziel for a variety of reasons fail. So there there are some franchises where if he said franchises don't know how to evaluate quarterbacks, he would have been right on. Yet it's no coincidence that the San Francisco 49ers, excuse me, can spend all kinds of draft capital to move up and get Trey Lance, and then Trey Lance turns into a total bust, yet they're saved by selecting Brock Purdy, who was the last
Starting point is 00:18:04 pick of the draft that year. You know it's no coincidence that the Philadelphia Eagles whether it's Carson Wentz or Nick Foles you know or the kid they have now whose name escapes me well unfortunately they have from uh Alabama Oklahoma uh you know they always find I'm sorry jail nerds jail nerds there you go thank you I'm getting old here. They mine gold at the quarterback position. Andy Reid, he's got the Midas touch at the quarterback position.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It's no coincidence that players like Gino Smith or Sam Darnold start with the Jets, they have miserable careers, they finally find success with good quarterback coaches or quarterback Organizations that know how to develop quarterbacks. So no, I think Mel's Comments were a bit absurd because he broad-brushed the entire league and it's only some Franchises in the league that have proven they have no clue how to evaluate quarterbacks. Interesting. I definitely thought that was a surreal experience to see on TV, certainly.
Starting point is 00:19:13 So I guess the biggest question is in your eyes, where does Shador go from here? Does he even make the team, do you think? Because obviously, like you mentioned, they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round, but that was also kind of a reach. Well, I mean, they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round to be their backup quarterback. So, and I agree that Dylan Gabriel could potentially be a very good backup quarterback in the league
Starting point is 00:19:36 because he's a guy that makes a lot of plays with his head as opposed to physical skills, which he's lacking. I mean, Shadrash Sanders is gonna compete for a job with the Browns. The Browns quarterback situation is wide open. They brought in Kenny Pickett. I mean, Kenny Pickett is an example of, for evaluation, of a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:19:57 He signed Joe Flacco late. We'll see if he can hit lightning in the bottle again with that organization. But Shador Sanders Sanders is gonna compete. I think one last thing that Mel forgot about is, football coaches do exactly that. They coach football players. And when they see a guy that's bigger, faster, and stronger than everybody else, they feel that they have the ability to turn that big strong fast athlete into a football player.
Starting point is 00:20:27 If you talk to scouts, what they'll tell you is when they look at a player, they look at what he does well and what he can do and then they feel that they will be able to coach the rest out of them. Doesn't always work, especially with the quarterback. You know, that's why I said forgetting about the interviews, forgetting about the father. When you watch the Shidor Sanders film, he makes a lot of poor fundamental mistakes, holds the ball too long, takes bad sacks,
Starting point is 00:20:53 runs in reverse trying to improvise. Those can be very difficult things to coach out of a quarterback to get him to play properly. I guess this could be probably the last thing about Shider that we talk on, but you had the Steelers or Shider going to the Steelers at 21 overall. Obviously you laid out the foundation of everything that's gone wrong with Shider already in the last 20 minutes that we've been talking about it, but is there anything else besides maybe like Aaron Rodgers being in the picture that turned the Steelers away? Well, what I said was that Mike Tommen,
Starting point is 00:21:32 he was a favorite of Mike Tommen. And I'm sure there was a lot. And I believe that NFL Network in Rappaport, who I know and I like, had said that half the Steelers room, wanted Shador Sanders. I guess the half that didn't want him won out through the first five rounds. Eventually they took Will Howard. So, you know, it depends on who has the most poll, who has the loudest voice in the war room and who was also willing to compromise the most
Starting point is 00:22:01 because, you know, Shador, there were some people in the Giants organization that thought they should have selected Shador with the third pick of the draft. That is absolutely true as well. So, you know, a lot of things go on on draft eight in the war room. You know, you see what happens after they make the player and everybody's happy and they're shaking hands and they're hugging each other. You know, I know of situations where people had to be held back because they almost got in the fights
Starting point is 00:22:28 and those things often do happen. I'm not saying it happened in the Steelers war room, but there's a lot of back and forth and eventually the head guy, the general manager or the general manager and the coach will come to some conclusion about the player they're gonna select. Makes sense, makes sense. Uh,
Starting point is 00:22:47 there's one thing that I would like to add about Chador Sanders. This is per David Naylor from on three sports, the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL have added Chador Sanders their negotiation list. And in the event that Sanders decides to pursue an opportunity to play in the CFL, which allegedly could happen, the Argonauts have first shot to acquire him. Like, is that something that you think he would actually do, or is that something that Dion would even allow?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, anybody remember Rocket Ishmael? I mean, Rocket Ishmael was drafted, I believe, by the Argonauts draft day and decided to play with them, which blew up the New England Patriots' plans. I think this was like in 1991. You got to go back to look at that. So, you know, listen, money talks. I think the father, Dion, who is the primary forcing this, wants him to play in the NFL, wants him to succeed in the NFL, to give the finger to the NFL after him to play in the NFL, wants him to succeed in the NFL, to give the finger to the NFL after teams pass them through the fifth round, but it's an option. I mean, it's happened before. Like I said, if you're not familiar with it, go look up Rocket Ishmael and see what happened there. That's right. That's a really good point. So right now we're going to take a quick break for a few
Starting point is 00:24:00 seconds. And when we come back, we are going to do a quick breakdown on some of Tony Pauline's biggest winners and losers. Don't go anywhere. This is the Fumble Risky Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
Starting point is 00:24:23 He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumbarooski podcast brought to you by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm your host, EJ Madero, with me of course, Chris Kostich and our very special guest,Key to Zone, Tony Pauline, their draft analyst. So moving on with our second and final segment for today, we're going to take a look at who he hails as some of the draft's winners and their biggest losers. So first, I want to address your New York Giants. They made what in my opinion was the smart decision to stay put at three and grab a dual carder. But then they traded back into the first for Ole Miss's very own Jackson Dart.
Starting point is 00:25:12 So obviously you liked those picks. Can you elaborate a little more about what to you made your Giants the winners? Well, first of all, they're not my Giants. I'm actually a New York Jets season ticket holder. I work with the Giants, but they're not my Giants. I mean, in that little carder, they got not my Giants. I'm actually a New York Jets season ticket holder. I work with the Giants, but they're not my Giants. I mean, in Abdul Carter, they got the best player of the draft with the third pick. You know, there
Starting point is 00:25:31 was a time before the league went quarterback crazy that the impact defensive player is what was most coveted at draft time. That's exactly what Abdul Carter is. In Jackson Dart, they got potentially their quarterback of the future, and I don't think they gave up all that much to get him. I mean, they gave away a third round pick in 2026. The third round pick in 2000, this year that they gave away, was a compensatory pick, and it's like found money,
Starting point is 00:25:56 and it really was more of an early fourth round pick than it was a third round pick. Darius Alexander's got some upside. I mean, he's a big bodied, athletic guy who could add some playmaking ability on the interior of that defensive line. Kam Skadabu as I wrote about, excuse me, is gonna be a legend as far as giant fans are concerned. There's gonna be a lot of oohs and ahs when he's barreling over defenders rather than running around them. He's a great compliment to what they have their entire own Tracy who was
Starting point is 00:26:23 a fantastic late-round pick Year ago Marcus bow of Purdue. I'm told they're gonna try him a tackle. That's gonna be interesting I think he's more of a zone blocking guy. I was on blocking lineman. I should say he's athletic. He's quick He's mobile, but he's got to get strong. He's a little light in the in the butt there, which is not good Thomas Fedonia, I think was a terrific seventh round pick. I think he's a real good number two tight end, a good pass catcher who does an adequate job blocking. Looking at some of the other winners they had in this draft, Patriots were one of them were big Pats fans on the pod,
Starting point is 00:26:58 but looking at them, you had winners of the drafts. What makes them potentially a pretty dangerous team for this coming season? Well, you hope the new coach who has had a lot of success in the past, you hope that the quarterback can take the next step up. And the fact that they not only drafted player that they hope will protect the quarterback at left tackle in Will Campbell But they also brought in some weapons for the quarterback and Trevion Henderson and Kyle Williams I mean you look at the Patriots history, especially receivers in the early part of the draft
Starting point is 00:27:34 It's they draft, you know players that are highly rated, but they always bust I mean Kyle Williams will hopefully break that mold. He's not a game changer. He's not a game dominer, but he's very solid. I think he's a reliable source, a reliable pass catcher. Jared Wilson could be their center of the future. I like Joshua Farmer in the fifth round. I think he's a guy that will fit that system and could see time early as a rookie. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:04 So you also mentioned because I know you're short with time here. So real quick. I also wanted to mention the Philadelphia Eagles. What exactly makes them tick and how do they keep finding these players like Jaha? 31 really what makes them tick is Howie Roseman. I mean he's the best in the business as I wrote if you're following me at all. When Woody Johnson was having his problems again with the Jets, what he should have done is go on to Howie Roseman,
Starting point is 00:28:31 excuse me, and give him 10% equity of the team to take over the Jets, but Woody Johnson's never gonna do that. I mean, again, if you read what I wrote right before the draft, Jihad Campbell has got shoulder issues, and he may miss a portion, potentially his entire rookie rookie year because he's very likely gonna need another surgery On those shoulders. I reported that the day before it was either Tuesday or maybe Wednesday I thought he could fall out of the first round. He fell at 31st pick and You know, how it was me gets an incredibly talented defender Who may miss a portion of his rookie year? But now selecting him in the
Starting point is 00:29:05 first round, Howie Roseman controls him for five years, so be it. Because even if he misses this year, he can invoke that 50-year option. Mokubu is a terrific center fielder that can go sideline to sideline, fills the need. Ty Robinson is one of the defensive linemen from Nebraska they took in the fourth round, one of my favorite players in the draft, exceptional defensive lineman in the past two years. At Nebraska, they used him at end, they used him to tackle, they put him over the nose. I was at the Ohio State game.
Starting point is 00:29:32 When they lined him up at nose tackle, he just ate Seth McLaughlin alive. A player that some, at that time, thought was gonna be a mid-round choice. Kyle McAuliffe, or Drew Kendall, is an outstanding center. Good swing player on the inside. Kyle McAudon-Kendall is an outstanding center, good swing player on the inside. Kyle McCord, you know, maybe Kyle McCord may never see any game action with the Philadelphia Eagles, but if they develop them, they have a chip to trade moving forward.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And then Cam Williams in the sixth round, there were people who in October, November thought that Cam Williams, the big right tackle from Texas, could be a first round pick. He got injured. He was playing with a bad knee. Everyone in the world saw that play where he gave up that horrible sack to Jack Sawyer in the semifinal game, which resulted in the scoop and score. There's some questions about his effort.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It is some questions about his readiness. But the fact is this. I mean, worst case scenario, the Eagles put Cameron Williams on injury reserve for a year. They try and develop him for the future. If they do, they've got a guy that they can plug in there and tackle. As I said, the problem with the Eagles draft is there are too many good players and there's not enough room on the Eagles roster.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So a lot of these guys are going to get cut and picked up by other teams and make the rosters of other teams. Yep that is a great point. You know, Hallie Roseman always does seem to find it. But Chris, one more thing. Just like one final lightning round. Yeah, just real quick on the draft losers. Your one loser was the Broncos and their first round pick today. Barron second round pick ended up being RJ Harvey running back out of UCF Do you feel that the Broncos just didn't do enough to? Kind of advance themselves and get take that extra step into a season last year where they made the playoffs and this year They're trying to expand on that
Starting point is 00:31:19 Well, there were real no losers in the draft I was asked to write an article about who did the best and who did the worst And I kept going through the list and I didn't see any Drafts that I thought were terrible that I thought on paper because that's all we're looking at now our dress on pay our names On a piece of paper that you're like wow what the heck did they do the only thing with the the Broncos that surprised me is They had the ability to get Matthew Golden, O'Marion Hampton, players like that that would have really helped their offense and Bo Nicks early on. They chose Jarday Barron. I like RJ Harvey, but I liked him in the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I like Pat Bryant, but I liked him in the sixth round. So, I mean, I think they got decent players. I just thought that there were other prospects available to them when they were called to the clock, especially in the early rounds that were higher rated or would have helped them. They would have had more immediacy in the 2025 season. There were no teams out there that I looked at their dressing like, oh, this is ugly. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Just some questionable why didn't they go in the Broncos case? Why didn't they take a Matthew Golden or a Marion Hampton rather decided to go for a Jaday Barrett? Well, that's a good point. And once again, we got to wrap up here. But seriously, Tony, thank you for coming on. It means the world to us. Always great to listen to one of the premier draft analysts in the sports world, Sportskeeda's very own. Everyone goes to Sportskeeda.com, check out his work. It's truly some great stuff.
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