The Fumblerooski Podcast - NFC "Beast" -Ep 478 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: October 13, 2026

On today's episode, the NFC East has a fantastic week 5. The Cowboys lose to the 0-4 Bucs, the Eagles choke in London, and the Giants and Commies tie. How did the Giants come out as the winner this we...ek? The Bills circle the wagons, the Falcons fall apart without Penix vs Ravens, and the 49ers capitalize on another late game mistake from the Seahawks. Chris Costich, CJ Medeiros, and Justin Tucker talk all this and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of the Fulmleruski podcast, the NFC East, hell of a week, finishing 02 and 2 in week 5. Marvin Harrison Jr. traded to the Texans, the 49ers pulled off on a last second surge from the Seahawks. The Ravens edge out the Falcons in overtime on Sunday night football and a recap of Monday night football. This is the Fulmuriski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet. But you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
Starting point is 00:00:40 He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fulmaruski podcast by Secret Weapon Consulting. We got CJ back. We got talk. We got myself, Chris. Hey, football baby. Week five, about.
Starting point is 00:01:02 minute or so away from being in the books. Pooka Nakua, what is that, 16 catches now for him. We're at the minute mark with the Rams driving down the field. But, yeah, 15, 16 catches for them. Of course, I have to go up again, at Simmon Fantasy this week. But, yeah, we'll recap this game once it ends, or maybe at the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:01:27 There's Devante Adams. The NFC East, boy. What a week for them. You got the Cowboys losing to the 0-14 Tampa Bay Bucks on Thursday night football and London. Eagles provide another masterclass in coaching on otherwise very masterful classes of coaching from all the other teams that we've seen through the first four to five weeks of this season. And then the Giants and the commies both tie in one of the ones. in one of the dumbest ways I've ever seen a game end.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yes. Well, we already talked about the Cowboys, or at least Tuck and I did. We already talked about the Cowboys' Bucks game. But moving on to the Eagles game, I mean, Eagles defense actually showed some life, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:23 But other than that, I mean, really the story of the game is not kicking it out of the end zone. At the end. That's really the name of the game at that point. We can't say that. We can't have it both ways. We can't say it for one thing with Dallas and then backtrack and say it another for the Eagles. They did it right.
Starting point is 00:02:43 They just didn't make the pull. They just didn't tackle. The Ravens had a time out though. The Ravens actually had a time out. Like the like the Jaguars didn't. It's still a possibility. Like if you're saying the timeout would have helped, I'm sure, but I just feel like sometimes. did help. It got you in a field goal.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yeah, the timeout did help and it eventually helped them kick a field goal. But then they, yeah, and then this time they didn't have any. But they still, they still had to get down. They just, the special teams just didn't help. They just needed, they just needed to make the tackle. That's all it was. Sorry, I was watching the Kyriek Williams play. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:03:32 15, 14, 14. Stafford's getting the boys up at the line, kind of scrambling. You're literally like two boys behind me, man. I am. And Kyron's in with four seconds to go. I'm sorry, what? Never much love when they go OT. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Chris, I know you said you don't want me to spoil anything, but they are going to make the field goal, right? He just did, yeah. They're going to OT unless there's some buckery that happens. I just have to change the win. Go for the win. All right. What is that three games this weekend?
Starting point is 00:04:12 I've gone to OT now. Probably. Yeah, that is because Ravens Falcons also went to OT. But I guess quickly about back to the Eagles game. Oh, shit. I just remember that Kyron Williams scored on playing Kyron Williams. CJ, your thoughts on the Eagles game. Have you guys ever seen that meme?
Starting point is 00:04:36 with DJ Khalid and it says what does he even do? That is how I feel about Nick Siriani. In fact, even though I've said this before, what does he do? The YouTuber urinating tree, for those of you who know him, actually said in his last video, what the fuck does he even do?
Starting point is 00:04:58 And when you got, when you have like a real ballmower like him saying the thing that you're already thinking of, then you know, you're in the right. But seriously, though, what the hell does Nick Siriani do? I don't know. I sincerely don't understand this. And for those and for those of you who don't know, I was just in Delaware over the weekend, you know, that's Eagles territory. And you could just feel the, the Nick Siriani hatred just emanate from Philly and it covers like a 50 mile radius. And,
Starting point is 00:05:35 And I understand, and I get it. And look, look, I know that it's hip, it's trendy, it's cool to bash Jalen Hertz. And to some extent, I understand. Because Jalen Hertz has not looked the best. However, he is also one of the reasons that you are not O'N Five. Because he is making the throws, in many cases where he should. he's not doing it consistently, but like I said, if he's not your QB, you're probably 0-N-5 because he was pretty critical in those two wins.
Starting point is 00:06:15 But the offense as a whole, let's start with the line. They're downed their last guy. It's left tackle Jordan Milotta. Landon Dickerson is hurt. Right guard, Tyler Steen, just got hurt. Center, Tam Juergens was traded and right-tackle, Lane Johnson, retired. So you're down your last line. and you're down to R.B. Fulall, who I think is Damien Pierce, because Sequan's hurt,
Starting point is 00:06:41 Tank Bigsby's hurt, and Will Shipley just got hurt. So you no longer have a line. You no longer have running backs. So you're going to have to force Jailant hurts to throw or just do umpteen tush pushes until the end of time. And it really sucks that they're wasting a Vic Fangio-led defense, but oh, my God. that Philly offense is just flat. Think about it this way. I think week two was the last time they scored a touchdown in the second half. Like, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:07:17 They look presentable in the first half, but then the second half rolls around. They literally, like I said, they literally just go flat. Like, like I said, I believe since week two, they have not found the end zone in the second half. And that is a problem. And we can blame hurts, But like I said, all the criticism that he gets, followed up, cut it in half, and give the
Starting point is 00:07:41 other half to Siriani. And the worst part is, Siriani's not doing himself any favors. And I think we can all agree to some extent. He's probably one of the least likable coaches in the league. And he hasn't really learned, even though he's won a Super Bowl, he hasn't learned how to, you know, what we call master the media. instead he gets irate, he claps back, and he like yells at fans. And it gets to a point where it's like, okay, not only are you losing,
Starting point is 00:08:16 but you're behaving like a goddamn jackass. And make no mistake, my fellow Americans, his seat is a little toasty right now. And not just that, guys, but I think that if Bill, misses the playoffs, he's getting canned. I don't give a shit they just won a Super Bowl. He is getting canned if they miss the playoffs. And hell, even if they sneak into the playoffs but don't win the division and get bounced in round one, he'll probably get canned then. And I'll tell you why, because he's a coordinator merchant. That's what it comes down to. He is largely the product
Starting point is 00:08:57 of good offensive coordinators. Because when he's forced to scheme shit up himself or find someone new, it's disastrous. The first half, second half thing was a point that I was going to bring up to. Sorry. Don't be sorry. It's a great point to bring up because, like, never mind how you start.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It's how you finish. And like the Eagles finish games, sucks. Outright sucks. Sorry, my cat actually just got out from under the couch and doing cat things now. What do the Eagles go from here?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Because who's their next game? Let me just make sure. Panthers. That's a loss. Yeah, Panthers coming off the buy. That's a loss if they don't get it together. That, that,
Starting point is 00:09:44 oh, man, I'm not sure. Yeah, that's a loss if the Eagles team can't figure it out offensively. I know they don't. As a matter of fact, yeah, that's a loss.
Starting point is 00:09:56 That O line I have no faith in right now, considering how badly injured and decimated it is by injuries and retirement. So, yeah. Who knows? Maybe they'll ask Jason Kelsey to come out of retirement one time just to see if it happens. But, yeah, they need to figure it out because I think they're mishandling players like Mikhailin. I don't know why they drafted him and again are misusing him. They're making Devante or DeMata look like a high-end wide receiver two.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yes. Should be the ones to be their one. Yeah. He's also hurt now. That too. Yeah. He did not play last week. because I have them in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yep. Their running back death is non-existent. They're down to their fourth string running back. That's a problem. And the only thing that's been consistent throughout all of this is Jalen Hertz, both good and bad. So as much as I thought this team was capable of making the playoffs, they're not healthy. And they're not playing as well as they should. It's just unfortunate because usually they have a year where they do well and a year they do bad.
Starting point is 00:11:03 but still somehow miraculously make playoffs. If they keep going like this, they might not make the playoffs, because they're not the leaders in the division, are they? That's the Giants. The New York football giants. I didn't think I would be saying that, but here we are, week five,
Starting point is 00:11:22 and there they are. It should be Dallas, but unfortunately, Dallas does what it always does and douse themselves out of positions they should be. Like, seriously, I don't know. how they do it. They just miraculously
Starting point is 00:11:35 do it. The Eagles suck right now and then there's the commanders. I don't know what to say about them. One moment they look like they can't handle themselves. They look like they're inept. Next moment they beat Seattle. I'm still not sure what they are.
Starting point is 00:11:51 So the NFC east or the NFC least right now is a weird situation to say the least. Yeah. It feels like 2015 all over.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah. I guess that's a good segue into the job. Oh, Kalil Shakir. Oh, I thought that was. I was about to say I thought that was game. And then I remember that everyone's guaranteed a possession. Yeah. Thanks a lot, Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Thanks a lot, Buffalo. Moving on to the Giants commies game. I mean, there's another, well, last thing about the Eagles, actually, real quick, is that, like, the fact. fact that they were even able to be in this game and have it come down to a last second field goal, I think is also just a miracle with everything that we also just stated.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Played like an underdog, competed like an underdog. The Giants and Commanders game, I mean, this was just a game of who wants to act like a dumbass longer. Oh my God, how do you lose the ball? Yeah. Talk for, because you don't have the game
Starting point is 00:13:01 in front of you, I'll let you know. there's a 57-yard catch by Khalil Shakir. They then, you know, in like the ramp, and deep in Rams territory, hand the ball off to James Cook, and it gets punched out, recovered by the Rams at their own 20. That is. That's foul. It was having such a good game.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I'm not going to say it's game yet, but. No, no, obviously not. But we'll see. But, yeah, Matt, they scored a touchdown on the last. I mean, shit, man. This could happen. I mean, shit, man. I mean, we could see a tie right here.
Starting point is 00:13:37 We just saw a tie with this one. But, um, but, um, but yeah, this was a matter of two teams that just decided to act like absolute dumbasses. Um, I mean, got ahead to both sides for putting up a salt game. Jaden Daniels ran the ball really well. Um, the, the arm brace looks pretty good on them. I'm glad that he's actually wearing that. Um, but, I mean, in terms of how this game played out, this also falls on the shoulders of Jaden Daniels and Dan Quinn.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Like, you could say that the Giants just as much lost this tie as the commies, but like, commies are literally in field goal range. Like, they had the game in hand and they run an extra play to then, like, have the biggest brain fart you could have possibly ever imagined on that. it's just inexcusable stuff inexcusable stuff I mean this is this is stuff that you go over and practice practice we're talking about practice and it's crazy too because like
Starting point is 00:14:44 after this game like I ended up seeing this video pretty much talk about how like unfortunately like you could see Madden players having oh nice throw a nice catch you can see up Madden players having more like clock management skills than the average NFL coach. And, you know, we talk about Siriani doing it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Dan Quinn, we just saw Dan Quinn have a master class in fumbling the shit out of it. And unfortunately, this has been a theme already through the first five weeks of the season, not even just talk about Siriani and Dan Quinn. We could point at some other games too. Fricking Aaron Glenn last year alone had many clock management bluffs. it's just an all-around problem. And now, not saying that the average Madden player can, like,
Starting point is 00:15:39 coach an NFL team, but Jesus Christ, like they could definitely lead a two-minute drive a little bit better than what's going on out here. But, yeah, Jaydon Daniels needs to have better awareness of what the hell's going on.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Or just not even run an the play, just kick the damn field goal. Just kick the damn field goal. There's no point in running another play. That's my, that's basically my take on it. Blind leading the blind. I don't know how the hell, Dayton Daniels didn't just say kick the field goal and call it a day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I don't wait. The Giants did possess the ball in overtime, right? Yeah, yep. Correct. Camp Scataboo fumbled it. They literally. Bumbled the game away. You guys get the ball back.
Starting point is 00:16:39 All you have to do is kick this field goal and you go home with a W. You don't even kick the field goal. You just run out the clock. Why are you guys fighting for a tie? And, damn it, Chris is really trying to convince me the Giants actually won this game. And I know, I know they didn't. The Giants should be three and two right now.
Starting point is 00:17:06 The Giants should be three and two right now. They should be a lot of things. That's a lot of things. They should be a lot of things. But somehow they're, what, three, one and one? Yep. This is going to have playoff implications going down the road. I'm not sure how we found ourselves in this position, but here we are.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And the commanders are two and three. Yep. So basically, no, one, three. One and three and one. So basically. They should be two and three. Yes. And the Giants should be three and two.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And this division race is a lot closer than it is now. But somehow, some way, both teams lost. I don't care if it didn't in the tie. Both of them didn't deserve the W. Because how the hell Cam Scataboo fumbles in that position? and then somehow the commanders have an even bigger fumble of the bag when they don't even kick a field goal. I don't know how this happened. I don't know why it happened.
Starting point is 00:18:19 If I'm the owner, Dan Snyder, I might just fired Dan Quinn just for negligence and stupidity. Dan Snyder is no longer the owner. Forgive me. It's Josh Harris. Josh Harris. I would have fired Dan Quinn after the game. and I was at Jamie and Daniels, that is your one and only time messing up.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Because if you keep acting like this, I might start calling you tragic Johnson like they did Magic until he started winning again. Did you guys see Magic Johnson's tweet about this game? No. What do you say? Well, he's a minority owner in the commies, so he was less than pleased to say the least. Very disappointed, very frustrated.
Starting point is 00:18:58 A couple verbs to use or adjectives. tubes i should say i'd be frustrated too if my my franchise quarterback did what he did and why just take the field goal yeah uh speaking of field goals uh rams are in field goal range right now tuck there we go gosh allen losing another game he's now three and two oh hey hey we're told so yeah i mean they just had mevis on the field and then just pulled them off because they're trying to get a little closer here all right how much time left is on the clock uh 541 for me i mean cj's probably like a minute 530 right now oh all right okay oh passing oh my what is that yeah so uh i guess i guess oh no no he takes it up the
Starting point is 00:19:49 field a bit but yeah not anyway so um i guess i'll go with what i was saying oh i guess they mark them down short but whatever uh first the john And I've mentioned this before, week to week, the James Winston experience truly is something. And I think we can all agree. You never know which James you're going to get. And today, they got famous James. 3354, 326 yards, three touchdowns. Very, very nice.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But the Giants, you know, they just got introduced to something that our good friend Tuck knows all about. Harba ball. You know Harbaugh Ball. You know. To look like you should win. To actually have the game in the palm of your hands only for Harbaugh to say, no. Who has it better than us?
Starting point is 00:20:52 A lot of people, it would seem. You should be three and two. Or is it Jim who says it. Either way, Harbauls a harbaugh's a harbaugh. What do you want? And the commanders. You know, Jane and Daniels, I like him. I really do.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And by the way, I know a lot of people said the arm brace would just look weird on him. I disagree. Arm braces are cool. When JJ Watt and Rob Gronkowski rocked him, they were sick. And Jane Daniels looks just as sick with it. And I'm glad he's taking care of himself because we all know what his ceiling is. And his ceiling is pretty damn good. So, that being said, did Jane Daniels think,
Starting point is 00:21:36 that even though he didn't have any time out and he just rolls outside of the pocket, all lackadaisically, that the clock would stop of five seconds left out of respect for the number of his. Unfortunately, time does not work that way, Jaden. And you completely pissed yourself when you should have had the game in hand. And the defense just, you know, broke a lot of, more than bent and the giants you know they finally got some semblance of offense cam scadaboo coughs up the ball it was just a true comedy of errors i mean i could watch that entire game with that yakety sack song playing in the background instead of the actual commentary
Starting point is 00:22:29 and i wouldn't miss a beat all in all i genuinely wish much like to both you that I could hand both of these teams a loss. Unfortunately, this is not the nature of a tie. So, yeah, no teams in the NFC East won this week. Very funny. I like that. That sounds so typical of the NFC East, but I can't recall the last time this has happened.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Oh, and by the way, since I wasn't there, I would just give my rapid-fire thoughts on the Cowboys. Mm-hmm. And just legend Jalen Daniels. that is all. I like that. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I mean, it, like I said, comes down to Jaden Daniels needed to know what he needs to do in that spot, not have a massive brain fart and dang when. I mean, like that was a design rollout and throw it away.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Like design roll out and throw it away. And Jaden Daniels, all he has to do is throw it at the line of scrimmage and he's good and he's good. but doesn't he he does the exact opposite but by the way chris and tuck rams missed the field goal brother i haven't even and once again i said it off camera and i'll say it again real quick josh allen is genuinely one of the luckiest quarterbacks had ever seen he can turn the ball over four times the bill still win actually i think it was no no it was blocked it was actually tipped uh gregg rousseau got through and got like a fingertip on it
Starting point is 00:24:05 And it just came up like just a few yards short. Like I said, Josh Allen, if he did. Like I said before, Josh Allen, it's just pure luck on his side. How much time is left in the game? The regular season. Too much, too much time. So like four minutes? Yeah, four minutes, 11 seconds.
Starting point is 00:24:27 They left him way too much time. Oh, my God. Well, and here comes yet another classic Josh Allen bailout, as in he's getting out. Come on, Josh. Throw a buffalo chicken sandwich to the defense. Yeah. I want this game to end in a tie. That'd be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So, yeah, after the 1 o'clock games, it was announced, oh, what was it, Friday or Saturday? I think it was Saturday. They announced that Rappaport and Shepter both announced that Marvin Harrison Jr. was getting traded from the Cardinals. But there wasn't a team in place. that was accepting that trade. It was basically just like,
Starting point is 00:25:10 hey, we're announcing we're trading him. And that's it. I saw reports that it wasn't going to be Indianapolis or Houston, and lo and behold, it ended up being Houston for, what was it, a second and a seventh? Yeah. So, I mean, what we were saying, like, at least a fourth. It's not a, I mean, it sucks that you end up with,
Starting point is 00:25:34 a second and a seventh for what third overall pick second overall pick fourth overall pick in in 23 but it wasn't working it wasn't working obviously it seemed like he had basically just lost interest in playing for the cardinals with with how he was playing I mean there's film on some of the routes he's running it I said this what a couple weeks ago like the routes he's running is dog shit. Tuck, by the way, bills are now in field of old range. Josh Allen just had a MVP type of run.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah, that was more of a defensive laps. Once again, he got bailed out. Either way, it was a vintage Josh Allen-esque play. I jinxed the Rams. I'll take this one. But yeah, thoughts on. I'm glad that at the very least, you know, you get a young player,
Starting point is 00:26:32 another chance to succeed somewhere else. Cindy's with its former college teammate, C.J. Stroud. Yes, I think this will be, I think this is where he'll probably have the best chance succeed. He has his college quarterback. He's not going to be considered the number one because Nico Collins is there. He'll be the number two or the number three. That means he'll have one-on-one opportunities. And I think he'll be excited to actually be in a different place. I just don't think he liked his time in Arizona. He was being overshadowed by Michael Wilson and Tray McBride.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I think he sees Houston as an opportunity. I hope he does. And hopefully we get to see flashes of what made him one of the most feared players in college football. I wish him all the best. I think he has all the tools to make it work, but we'll see. We'll see how it turns out. C.J. You know, I like this move specifically for Marvin Harrison Jr.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And honestly, for the Cardinals, I will tell you, they didn't get super terrible value. I mean, the second rounder was in this year's draft. And nobody when we see first and seconds getting traded, they've all been in 2028. So they only have to wait to like reap the rewards. That's nice. But think about this way. He reunites with his college quarterback and C.J. Stroud. They're good friends off the field, and they have chemistry.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And chemistry was, I think, the biggest reason why his time in Arizona never worked out. He and Kyler Murray just didn't click. He didn't click with Berset either. And I know a lot of people have said in the past, like, oh, we can't separate. And that is a bit of a problem. I won't deny it. But how many times have we seen him get wide ass open? like no one around him for like a 20-yard radius and the quarterback, whether it's a Murray or
Starting point is 00:28:34 Brissette, ends up just force-feeding McBride who's triple-covered, triple-covered, you know? The amount of times I have seen them throw into double or triple coverage to force-feed McBride or Wilson while Harrison is open are actually more numerous than I would care to admit. And I get the separation problem, but when he's wide open, you've got to throw to him, yeah? Yeah. It's not like that. It's like, they're not even targeting him either. And there are all those rumors going around that he just quit on that.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And hot take, can you blame him for quitting on the team? No, Arizona is a joke organization. They are one of the most poorly run franchises ever. They are a perennial joke. And yeah, and like I said, and when you have a team that would prioritize force-feeding, a triple-covered tight-up. end rather than getting you the ball when you're wide open, yeah, I think I would be a little disillusioned. But now that he and Stroud of chemistry, I want to see what he can do. I'm not guaranteeing
Starting point is 00:29:38 any big, grandiose return to what he was, but I think it changes scenery will do him good. I mean, you talk about the Cardinals and they are the, um, the sorriest franchise in all of sports. Oh, by the way, the bill's just won. Josh Allen, Lux's way, I have another one. And like I before. It's just luck. It's all luck. Brother, I'm still in commercial. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Damn. Well, it was a field goal? Yeah. This is just... Well, I guess we'll move on to that. I ended up changing this damn banner three times now. Oh, where the EFC standards?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah, good job, Joe Brady. Not messing around with it anymore. All right. There's a banner. Bill circle the wagons. Late field goal wins it for him in overtime from Tyler Bass. After letting up the tying score with four seconds to go in regulation.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, excuse me. I'm drinking Diet Coke, so I'm feeling a little gassy in here, you know. Excuse me. But what a game. Potential game of the year. I mean, I think the bills after the Pats game, a lot of discourse about them being. broad team and showed up on the road prime time.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah, obviously, you know, Josh Allen made some boneheaded plays out there. But at the end of the day, they skirted out of a road primetime game with a win against the Super Bowl favorites. And I say the discourse was very much against them about being a soft team because a lot of people were starting to point at the bills as being scheduled merchants compared to the Pats with the combined records of the teams that they've beaten, which I'll get that up in a second. The Texans who are one and four, the Chargers who are one and five.
Starting point is 00:31:58 The Texans beat the Titans. They should be one. Yeah, I said the Texans. They're running four, yeah. in the Lions who are 2 and 3. I don't know how I feel about the Lions. They're 2 and 3, but they shouldn't be. It's just that defense is so ass.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I don't know how Arizona only scored 14 points. That's how it would be. But the point still stands, though. The Bill's opponents that they have won against have a combined five wins. The teams that the Patriots have just, played combined at 11. So, fuck all the haters
Starting point is 00:32:42 because the Pats slung their dick around against Vegas this week. Sorry, we're not talking about the Pats. Thoughts about this game? Thoughts about the bills from you, fellas. Didn't watch the game, from what I heard. Josh Allen got very, very lucky this time around.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Through a meatball sub to the defense. made envy classic Josh Allen end of half throw. Yes. And then somehow, some way he'll make miraculous plays to keep his team in positions. James Cook will go underrated, even though he should get more credit than he gets. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:26 Josh Allen will make enough plays to somehow, some way get the Buffalo bills of victory in the end. It just sort of happens like that. the Rams were in position to win this game, and they got their field kick blocked. So, yeah, and I will take responsibility. I did someone jinx insane, well, the Rams are about to go kick this field goal. They did not. They got it blocked.
Starting point is 00:33:54 But, oh, no, this is just a good win for the Buffalo Bills, and they're still at the top of the AFC East. see j i just i can't why i was a patch time a little jealous because we all can admit josh allen is just lucky that's what this game was it was just luck you know defense blocked the kick he made like a decent run off of a defensive laps and you know and his kicker gets it done like you know like uh this is now the third straight week where josh allen really has not looked good I mean, he's not playing terribly. He's just pedestrian and I'm supposed to believe this is an MVP frontrunner.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I mean, I don't know. It's the same song and dance. He'll ball out in the regular season. Mahomes takes his lunch in the playoffs. World keeps spinning. But for me, it's not even about the bills. It's about the Rams. You're now two and three and you're the Super Bowl favorites.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And I know what you're going to, and I have with the Rams here saying, oh, but the injuries, everyone is hurt and everyone who's not hurt and everyone who's not hurt and everyone who's playing is banged up. I just got to say, Rams, with all due respect, cry me a fucking river. I mean, look at the Niners in your own division. Brock Purdy's Sling of the Rock and half the team has been sacrificed to the electric substation.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And hell as a Pat's fan, we have more players on IR right now than we did all of last season and we're still three and two. And we beat the bills, which you did not do. So, like, don't get me wrong. Injuries are part of the game. They're a big deal. But would you have teams, like I said, like the Patriots and the 49ers, that are still pulling out wins despite being grievously injured,
Starting point is 00:35:53 I just think that that same excuse doesn't fly for the Rams. You know what I mean, Tucker? You see where I'm coming from here? Yeah. Yeah. And, oh, the high-end talent is saving Matt Stafford's ass. I hate to tell you. I mean, he was good, you know, 40 to 54, 383 yards, three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:36:21 But, you know, like, I get it. I understand. But so far this season, he's been kind of iffy, I think, up to this point, six touchdowns, six picks, which with that roster, is not excusable. I'm sorry. I don't know what it is. Like, this was the first really, like, elite Matt Stafford game that he's had all season. And I know some quarterbacks, you know, take a while to find their footing, but you're the reigning MVP. This shouldn't be the case.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, not a, not the greatest start to the season for them. Aaron Donald looked good today. Yeah. I was just loving some of them. Yeah. Yeah, but unfortunately, Miles Garrett isn't there to help him. Yeah, what's his timetable looking like right now? He's still on injured reserve, so he still has at least, what, one more week? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Apparently, he's making good progress, but there's no timetable for his return. They could very well, like, leave him on IR after next week. They said that AI overview says that they are not expected to open his 20. one day practice window during week six, which would be against the Cardinals next week. I saw a meme that said the Brown sold L.A. Lemon. That was funny. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Stay in the NFC West. Niners holding strong versus Seahawks. Defensive stand on the final drive of the game. I mean, this, what, this was basically how a lot of the, this basically had the Seahawks just, just lost, right? One bad play. And that was, that was basically the difference maker. And it was them fumbling in the end zone. Before I get started, do you, did you guys see what Mike Evans did to Trayvon Diggs?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Oh, yes. Well, yeah, I kind of remember that there was a lot more that happened in this game. But yes, that was hilarious. That was so unnecessary. And then what he said during the press conference, I'm not going to lie. If I'm Trayvon Diggs, I'm going to remember that the next time I see him. He is getting nothing if I had any sway. I would treat locking down Mike Evans as my life goal because how the hell are you going to say we friends, we know each other?
Starting point is 00:39:06 with something you're on the field. You don't know who I am. He was playing with him. You know who he was. But anyway, back to the... I picked the... Seattle's loss to win. I lost that bet.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I believe Chris picked San Francisco to come in and get the job done. Yeah, I did. Without Dre Greenlaw for the entirety of the second half, by the way, which... Yep, because he got himself ejected. Yeah, which, like, there was some... There was some bad blood going on in that, pretty much that entire...
Starting point is 00:39:36 game, which like kind of gave you vibes of 2013 and then Drey Greenlaw with a sneaky headbutt on a defenseless, defenseless bench player. I forget who he had butted, but, which by the way, breaking news, uh, Drey Greenlaw suspended for next week. No big surprise there. I didn't even like, I don't feel it. Probably. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:00 He, it looked like when he was, honestly, I don't think so. when he was on the field and like Fred Warner came over and looked like he was trying to be like what the fuck happened uh Greenlaw like kind of motion that he headbutted him so like I think he's pretty aware of what he did is going to be pretty accepting of what like the camera has like the camera got them got that whole interaction so I think he'll be pretty accepting of that suspension to say the least but when that initial ruckus first start or that initial scrum started up. I didn't even realize, well, I was mainly like, oh shit, yeah, like 2013 all over again, like this great. I even realized that Greenlaw, even headbutted a guy. It kind of got like washed literally in the middle of everything. But yeah, San Francisco 49ers came up to Seattle, did what they were supposed to do and got the job done. Congrats to them. Brock Purdy played well enough. I don't know. I don't even they're still undefeated they're five and oh now at next week they got the commanders
Starting point is 00:41:13 they're they're probably going to go six and no are they the best team in the NFL right now because nineers yes it's either them Minnesota surprisingly or jack we can't give Minnesota that tag I they're five and no is I know they're five I know I know offensively they're not deserving, but I have to acknowledge the defeated the street because they keep winning these games. But it's either between them and Jacksonville. That's how I see it. Yeah, Jacksonville and, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I'd say San Fran and Jacksonville are your two best teams right now, too. Yeah. I can't give it to Minnesota. Oh, no, in Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Can't forget about Casey. That's why we forgot them. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you guys.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I do. I just want to say one thing, though, about Minnesota real quick. um Minnesota's 5-0 the way that the or the 2019-2020 Steelers started like 5-0 2020 yeah and then they ended up losing like their final five games
Starting point is 00:42:21 and getting bounced round one that's how I view them but anyway for the Niners Seahawks game talk like you said that thing Mike Evans did is I think one of the most disrespectful bits of trash talk I've ever seen in my life. Because Trayvon Diggs gets up in his face and starts chirping at him because that's what he does. He likes to trash talk.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I just get in your head. And so Diggs spins him or not Diggs up. Evan spins him around and says, wait, who are you? Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Trayvon. Yeah, that's a sit your ass down moment. Like, yeah, Evans son to you the whole game. And the Seahawks fans have been having an. absolute Hiroshima level temper tantrum after this game.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And you know why, let's jump into it. So it's third and ten. Darnold gets a wide open JSN and the JSN channel is in her snoop dog and dropped it like it was high. That was a tough catch. Yeah. I mean, I know, but no, I know it's a tough catch, but you're one of the highest pay receivers in the game.
Starting point is 00:43:31 You're expected to make that. He is a high-up catcher-on. He got both hands on the ball, both palms on the ball like this. I don't give a shit. And especially because he was wide open. Like, I'm sorry, that's not excusable. And I know some shithead in the comments could be like, well, can you catch that?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Counterpoint, I'm not paid over 100 mil to do it. So, you know, you're comparing apples and bowling balls here. And then fourth down. He hits Cooper Cup. Cup goes. He shrugs off a tackle, dies forward, and it gets ruled short.
Starting point is 00:44:12 You know, they review it. And I guess there was enough evidence to overturn it because it looks kind of iffy. And you guys know the rules. If there's not enough evidence, it defaults the initial ruling. And you just have to hope when stuff like that happens
Starting point is 00:44:25 that the initial ruling is just on your side because it was pretty hard to see. And it looked like the ball, like his arm holding the ball was like extended out of bounds which does not count and i get to see all these stupid what about it is like oh so that means every toe tap catch doesn't count once again bad faith comparison you know uh complete that like i said it's really just a bad faith comparison and it's like no because you don't have possession yet it's like oh so all the pylon touching touchdowns don't call.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Like once again, pylons are very different. It's a false equivalence. And I think for the rest, it's literally a damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I've been pretty hard on NFL officials and rightfully so.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But Seahawks fans, I would just say that sucked, but you didn't get screwed. That was the right call. I got to look at that, the play-by-play of that game to refresh my memories. Also, is it near the Seahawks just not looked as good this season?
Starting point is 00:45:36 You know, usually Super Bowl hangover is supposed to affect the losers, not the winners. I mean, Darnold had two picks. He was sacked five times. It was pretty ineffective. The running game hasn't gone really anywhere. And I'm kind of, and I'm sympathetic to that because Jeterian Price is on IR. And Zach Charbonnet is still hurt. J.S.N had a good game.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You know, five catches. 102 yards and a touchdown outside of that drop. But the defense has been given up a lot of points lately. And I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, at least for the offense about how different they look, do you really think that was it losing Kubiak? It would have to be, right?
Starting point is 00:46:22 Well, Kubiak's on the offensive side of the football. And I mean, like the Seahawks outside of week one have still put up. up 30 plus points per game. Well, once, you know, I get that, but at the end of the day, it's not about stats. It's about the eye test because the eye test can tell you more. It's like sure you're, I mean, sure the numbers look good, but if you yourself don't look good, then that usually means there's an underlying issue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Also, even Donald himself hasn't looked that good, especially this season. It's just he's, it's like playing mad. and he's just spamming the JSN button. Yeah, I think part of that. Wouldn't you spam the JASN button? Wouldn't you spam that button? I would spam it. What about is him?
Starting point is 00:47:12 No, but I think Sam Donald's also on his second week back from injury. I think he's still trying to get back into the, really actually get back into the groove. They also played the Niners. It's week five. I'm not, I don't feel like I should be too worried about the Seahawks just yet, especially since they're three and two.
Starting point is 00:47:32 A lot of season to go. You could say that the Niners are already running away with it, but like I said, a lot of season to go. Oh, excuse me. All right. Sunday night football, Ravens Edge, the Falcons and OT. Tuck, before I leave it off to you, I mean, I feel like this was another game
Starting point is 00:47:55 where it kind of just came down to one thing and one thing only. my old Pennix was not a quarterback for overtime. But I'll leave the thought. I'll leave the floor to you, Mr. Ravens fan. Guys, I don't know what to tell you. This game, I was so conflicted by the end of this game. I was happy we won, but at the same time, If you watch that game, how the hell did we win that game at some points in time?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Because in the beginning, we were dominant. Like, it felt like we were flexing our muscles, even though we only had three points, even though we had that damn fumble to Mark Andrews, which I will get to a minute. We just felt like the better team. And then, unfortunately, towards the end of the half, Michael Pennix came alive because our offense just sputters from time to time. and it does certain things like not be able to pick up a first and five.
Starting point is 00:49:06 But then they came alive. They scored a touchdown. We come back and score a field goal before the end of the half. Yada yada y'a. And so here comes the Falcons. They're able to move the ball at will. Key third downs against our defense.
Starting point is 00:49:19 We can't generate a pass rush. Drake London gets open. Drake London wants the first down. He gets the first down. Just like clockwork. then Zach is a curious branch gets gets open for a first down it's like oh no not this
Starting point is 00:49:37 we get the ball bag we're not moving the ball enough and then it's like three and out three and out and it's like dear god why is this happening to us and then eventually we do score to make it 15 to 20 we try to get the two point conversion
Starting point is 00:49:56 Mark Andrews again can't catch the ball it gets punched out by Jesse Bates, who had a hell of a game, by the way. He had a decent, he had a great game. Unfortunately, it was all for not, but the Atlanta Falcons kept scoring to then officially make it 23 to 15 because we just couldn't stop them, or we just couldn't stop them from scoring field goals, and we just couldn't put any points on the board once it was 15, 17. They scored six more points. And then we had to go. go down the field with our offense, our backup's quarterback, and a running back who usually
Starting point is 00:50:37 isn't in the most of the design with Justice Hill because we had to put Derek Kimmery. And then we miraculously score a touchdown and get the two-pointed version. I'm thinking, okay, we can do this, but there's still time left on the clock, and Michael Pennix has been killing us. All they need is a field goal to win the game. Unfortunately, disaster strikes the Atlanta Falcons when Tvarious Robinson gets into the backfield, almost untouched, and then wham! Hits Michael Pennix literally out of the game. He tried to come back in for a player to him, but it's just like he couldn't do it. But Am walks to it, he gets a pass in before overtime, and it's just like, yeah, they're playing for overtime.
Starting point is 00:51:25 We won the toss. We go down there and score. leave the Falcons with a little under three minutes to score, and then Tua comes back onto the field, and two is the game away. Just throws a four-piece lemon pepper to the defense. Kyle Hamilton and Atlanta native picks the ball off, and the game was over. Ravens miraculously win this game, even though at some points in times, it looked like it was going to be one of those games where it just slips away.
Starting point is 00:51:55 but no, we pulled through in the end, and I'm happy for us, but at the same time, there's a lot of things we need to clean up on both sides of the ball. Atlanta, their quarterback situation is probably the same as it was last year. I'm not sure how long Pennix is going to be out. It could be for one week. He could play next week, but it looked like it hurt. It looks like it was his ribs that were the problem. Hopefully that he can pull through because,
Starting point is 00:52:25 Tua is Tua, and he's going to Tua all over the place, both good and bad. So hopefully Michael Pinnock can come back and be the quarterback of this team because they desperately need it. But with all the injuries that he has, you've got to be a bit concerned about it. All and all, good team one for the Ravens. Solid. We got Cleveland coming up next. And Atlanta has to recover, lick its wounds, and prepare for its next game. C.J.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I'm not going to lie to you guys. I didn't see the entirety of the game, you know, probably because I was on my way back up north. But, you know, I was keeping track of it on my phone. And, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:20 First of all, for the Ravens shout-out Pro Bowl or Tyler Huntley. I'm still not calling him Snoop. I'm not doing it. But. but hey you know we stepped in and got the job done say it with me kids i can't believe it's not lamar but as for the falcons i want to talk about the vibe shift that happened when toa came into the game it was so funny penix leaves two comes into the huddle there's a pick there's a video
Starting point is 00:53:52 you could find it probably on nfl memes ig on their instagram page where Bijon Robinson actually tried to sub Tua out. He was trying to wave him off the field. He saw him and said, oh, absolutely not. And I know someone who's a Falcons fan, and she literally said, like, you know, she turned off the TV when Tua came into the game. And I said, probably a wise choice.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And, you know, Tuck, you said it better than I ever could. First, his first snap of overtime. and an immediate number three with extra pickles to the deep, oh, second. Well, either way, like I said, immediately number three with extra pickles, air mailed right to the defense. And let me just say, the more I think about it, his nickname Tua turned a ball over has got to be, I think, one of, if not the best slanderous nickname in sports.
Starting point is 00:54:56 sports history because I'm not going to lie. My favorite slander is a nickname, even though I respect it as a player, was Russell Westbrook, when they call him Westbrook. But the more I hear Tua turn to ball over, that's just the final. And rightly so. Yeah, you know, I thank Tyler Huntley for played a great game. I think the real story, unfortunately, is that the falc, like, Michael Pennix is definitely going to be their guy this season. but like it's a matter of if they can keep him healthy and if he can if he's not in that quarterback then that's it like that's the season really because
Starting point is 00:55:40 two is sucks and Cooper Rush may have his head on may have his head on a steak if if he goes back in at quarterback at any point this year so it's it's penis or bust here That is a way to put it Such a child Oh you're a child Talk, come on Am I wrong though? It really is
Starting point is 00:56:09 Okay Anything else from this game We want to touch on Outside of the Falcons being overly dependent on PennX So No I don't think so
Starting point is 00:56:32 No I'm good. I'm satisfied. Yeah. CJ, anything out of you? No, that is all. Cool. Cool.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Cool, beans, man. Yeah, that's all the scheduled content that we have for you today. Anything else that happened in the news that we want to get to, or are we all set? There is that one thing. Okay. To all my NFL fans out there, which, if you're not an NFL fan, you're watching this, why but hey we appreciate it i i do want to say have you guys noticed the that every game is becoming a penalty paloosa yeah like and we are on track to the most penalties ever i think
Starting point is 00:57:20 this is the most penalties through the first like four or five weeks since uh since like what 1978 or whatever the number was most penalties accepted as of week four we had 17 touchdowns nullified by penalties whereas this time last year I think it was like five I'm sure that number has increased this week I'm not entirely certain but I once again I would imagine that it has so remember during the offseason everyone was fretting about the replacement refs and I said you know what let them buy for the job because surely they can't do worse than what we're seeing now. This is why. This is why every game having what, like 17 penalties.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Hell, Chris, we're patch fans. You saw Pat's Raiders had 20 combined penalties. The game we just finished, you know, Rams bills, I think, had like 22. And it's insane. And if I wouldn't know better, I would say, hmm, yeah, this is Vegas. House always wins. Now, do I have any proof to back that up? No.
Starting point is 00:58:29 But would I be shocked? Also, no. And it's either Vegas or a complete, not a power trip. Hell, we already had two reps, like a side judge of one crew and actually a head referee, Adrian Hill. Both of them were actually suspended already,
Starting point is 00:58:47 you know, because they were behaving to put it nicely like characters. It was like real characters. I would say. And from where we sit now, it's just something's got to give. Like the owners, I think we're probably going to have to talk about it. Because like this is getting, it's just getting ridiculous. And I think you all can agree about how every time a team starts getting a little bit of momentum, flag. Or say, oh, you just score a touchdown. Flag. Interception flag. Like, it's like there's a penalty every three plays. It's getting, I just.
Starting point is 00:59:24 It's becoming unwatchable. And I know not the only one that's noticed this. Yeah, and it also just ruins the flow of a game, too. It really does. It makes it hard for a team to get any sort of rhythm or teams to get any sort of rhythm. And you end up getting pretty sloppy games as a result. I mean, like, if there's a penalty, there's a penalty. But like, if we're talking like ticky-taggy calls that, like, they need to chill the hell out, man.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yes, they do. I'm sick and tired of it. Yeah. Like, I remember a game that I went to from, like, a couple years ago, the year that the Pats were really dog shit. That was a major year. I went to the game against the dolphins. And some of the calls that were made on the field were absolutely heinous.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I mean, never mind the rep, like the whole thing with the flags, just the refs in general this year. I mean, we just saw. We just saw two reps get suspended. Yes, one rough actually tried to put their hands on a player. And another said, fuck you, multiple times to trade McBride. Like, the riffs are wild in this year. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:41 But, I mean, I do like that. The NFL is starting to crack down on the refs, though. I like to see it. Hey, hey, man. That will be started. Here comes the NFL. Anything else? All right.
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