The Fumblerooski Podcast - No Country For Young Men -Ep 306 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Ravens make a move for their WR room and add Diontae Johnson to their weapon arsenal. However, the Texans lose their top target in Stefon Diggs to an ACL tear and is out for the season. Jayden Daniels furthers himself ahead in the OROY competition with a win over the Bears on a Hail Mary. Lions with a total team victory and dog walk the Titans 52-14. Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Chris Costich, and Special Guest Aaron Wise talk all of this and more including our Week 8 Top 3 Bottom 3.

the Ravens make a splash in the wide receiver market while the Texans lose a pass catcher. Jaden Daniels pulls away from Caleb Williams in the rookie of the year race and the Lions continue their scorched earth trial. This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.

Welcome to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros and Chris Kostic. We have a great show planned for you guys today. We're going to be covering a pretty big trade made with the Baltimore Ravens, picking up Deontay Johnson. We're also going to get into the Texans who lost yet another pass catcher this season we're going to get into the state of the offensive rookie of the year race between jayden daniels and caleb williams where daniels pulled a little bit further ahead we're going to get to the lions

who hung a 50 burger on the titans defense and now for the third game in four matchups, have scored 40 plus points, winning their fifth straight, and joining us to cover all of these topics, we have a special guest, a longtime listener of the show, Aaron Wise. Aaron, thanks for joining. You're muted. You're muted. Oh, oh yeah sorry yep my bad i didn't know i was beating well thanks for joining pleasure to have you i i i see your i as i've noticed in from episodes past you are you happen to be aets fan who is, I imagine, not happy with certain circumstances.

I'm done. No words on that? All right. We can talk more about that later. Understandable. Yeah, we'll have plenty of words for that. But we're going to get into the big news of just a few minutes ago as we are recording this on 245. At 245 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, the Baltimore Ravens have traded Deontay Johnson in what was also a pick swap, a fifth for a sixth.

Yeah, so the Ravens, they already had a few very good pass catchers. They had Zay Flowers. They had Rashad Bateman. They had Mark Andrews. And now here they're trading for Deontay Johnson. Um, it's also worth noting that we kind of, we talked a lot about this team on our last Tuesday episode. We gushed over the Ravens saying that their quarterback, Lamar Jackson, is having the best season of his career. Well, they went on to lose 29-24 right after we said it and just hours after we posted it as a reel. Not that Lamar played poorly, but it's also worth noting that the wide receiving

core did not have its best showing. Yes, Zay Flowers caught seven balls for 115 yards, but they had a lot of drops in this game. So it makes sense that that would correlate with a few days later trading for a wide receiver and Deontay Johnson. Is he a number one? Not really. Maybe a low tier one at best. Their best wide receiver is obviously Zay Flowers. But I think when you look at it, I think this is a very good trade for the Ravens who have taken on more of a, more of a pass heavy approach to their game this season. And to continue with that identity,

this just matches up with it. But guys, what are your thoughts? I wouldn't really say the Ravens are going with a pass heavy approach since you got Derek Henry in the backfield, but it definitely helps that you bring in Deontay Johnson. As you mentioned, though, I think that he's going to serve more of his wide receiver too. And since Adam Thielen was out, he's had to serve as a wide receiver one on the Panthers and led the team in receiving yards, receptions, receiving touchdowns. So he's definitely had to step up in the game a little bit

with Thielen being out for basically since the beginning of the season or since week two, actually. So all in all, I mean, Deontay Johnson has shown that he can be a wide receiver one and can be a serviceable wide receiver two as well. Obviously more on the wide receiver two side and i mean the ravens need need to kind of stack up a little bit on the pass catchers because i mean yeah you got um you got zay flowers he's all he's pretty solid isaiah likely starting to come into his zones uh mark andrews getting a little bit older but now he's starting to get more into the offense a little bit rashad baitman is all right uh nelson agalor still still kind of a bum. So I think this is a good little add-on for the Ravens to have for this little Super Bowl push that they're going to put themselves on.

But at the end of the day, though, the Ravens are still going to be a run-heavy team, and it's really going to come down if they panic in the playoffs or not, which they always seem to do. All right, CJ. For me, I know I said this about Derrick Henry, but this just reinforces the point. This move for me screams all in for the Ravens, right? So Deontay Johnson, his stats won't wow you, mostly because he's on that

trash heap called the Carolina Panthers, and their circus master owner there, David Tepper. But look, 30 catches, 357 yards, three touchdowns. I know they have Flowers and Bateman, who are both two first-round picks. They have Mark Andrews, and even a really good tight end too and will likely or isaiah likely i'm thinking of someone else uh you know who could be tight end one depending on who you ask but like i said you gotta like this trade for johnson because i know they're trying to lean more on the pass game, but this is great because it takes the pressure off of Derrick Henry. So you don't have to live in fear of running Derrick Henry into the ground or forcing Lamar to scramble 20 times a game. So Derrick Henry's that punch you need when you have teams on the rope so you're

trying to get a few more first downs to ice the game i'm not saying you relegate him to that role but you're just taking more off his plate and that is great because health is the name of the game injuries are now the only thing that can stop the ravens it's just i would have also preferred they make a trade on the defensive side of the ball because good lord their defense has been iffy despite the star power they have i'm not thrilled with it but as long as they keep adding they should be fine and i'm not going to pretend that deontay johnson comes in and becomes wider one but you've got a solid trio of Flowers, Johnson, and Bateman. Overall, it's a net negative for the Ravens, I do say so.

Aaron? All right, so what do I think about the trade? Honestly, I mean, it's pretty good for the Ravens. It makes their offense more balanced. So you want to see Lamar Jackson running like crazy every game and Derrick Henry like chill a little bit. But, yeah, I think this trade honestly might put them over the top to beat the Chiefs, which I hope so. So, yeah, there's not really too much here to say really about this trade. I think it was just a win-now move for the Ravens, which I honestly think they've been win-now mode for years now.

So, yeah, that's all I got to say with the Ravens. Yeah, listen, this just makes them a very balanced team. I say pass-heavy. I say more pass heavy as far as like relative to the two recent years with the Ravens. They've always been a run first offense. That's what they have been ever since they brought in Lamar Jackson. They've been a run heavy team, rightfully so because you're playing to his strengths. However, I think we're starting to realize as his career goes on that he can also throw a little bit too so they've been surrounding him with some pass catchers they've given him zay flowers

uh they also have rashad bateman they have isaiah likely as well they have mark andrews they have a lot of good players but they're just adding to it and they're giving him deontay johnson as well and i think this makes them a little more balanced it It gives, and this helps Derek Henry cause he's not facing stacked boxes. They have to pick your, they have to pick their poison. Now it's either you allow Lamar Jackson to beat you with his armor legs, or you have Derek Henry, who's going to be plowing through you.

You can't win in that scenario. And this is going to be a hard, this is going to be a hard offense to, to beat. And it's going to be interesting to see how it works with all of these, all of these different playoff teams who will probably be running into them at some point this season or in the post season on how they're going to try and stop them because they're pretty hard to stop right now. Um, that being said, they did lose to the Browns with J Jameis Winston Good game from Jameis Winston, but you can't win them all.

All right. With that being said, we talk about the Ravens who gained a wide receiver. We're going to talk about the Texans who lost one. That's going to be next. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario

for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright, CJ Meneiros, Chris Kostic, and special guest Aaron Wise. All right, so the Houston Texans won yet again. They have improved to 6-2 on the season. They continue a pretty good campaign so far. They barely edged out the Indianapolis Colts 23-20. However, it came with a price. They lost their prize acquisition from over the offseason in Stephon Diggs.

They lost to an ACL tear we found out just a few minutes ago. It was suspected earlier this week that he did tear his acl that is what it was feared after getting results back as of just what was it an hour ago as this is it is currently 2 55 p.m eastern time they lost lost Stefan digs and they've always been, they've always ready been without Nico Collins and they will be until at least week 10. And that's if Collins is ready. So right now you're looking at a weapons arsenal for Stroud that is quickly starting to dwindle after they were,

they, it was, they were coming out of the ears with targets. You had digs Collins, you had Dell, Dalton Schultz. Now it's down to Tank Dell and Dalton Schultz, just those two. Which is, that is a very, that's dwindling quite a bit. Tank Dell might be a wide receiver one. That's still kind of in question.

He had a really good season last year. And so far he's been iffy, but a lot of that could be just the fact that he hasn't been getting the targets because it's been a crowded pass catching core. Now that depth is almost gone. And your top three targets, as far as skill positions go, are Tank Dell, Dalton Schultz and joe mixon and you also have damian pierce who could give the ball to every now and then uh playing behind a pretty good offensive line you still have and cj stroud is still a very good quarterback who has

shown that he can do more with a little bit less he did that last year there's a potent there's a possibility he could do that now, but I'm just going to ask you guys, how do we feel about the Texans being the Super Bowl contender that we have propped them up to be during the season and over the off season? I feel like I just haven't been that impressed with the Houston offense this year. It doesn't feel like the offense that we saw from last year where they were just going balls to the wall. Everything was a shootout. It was a high-flying, exciting offense.

It just does not seem like that again this year. They've only cracked over 30 points once this year, and that was against the Patriots where they won 41-21. Other than that, they've cracked over 25 points one time, and that was against the Colts week one. It's not been a very impressive offense, and I know that they have the Jets coming up on Thursday night, and the Jets' defense hasn't been good at all by any sense of the word this year. So they might have themselves an all-right time against the Jets Thursday night,

but I don't really see this offense performing all that well for the next few weeks, especially with Lord knows when Nico Collins is actually going to be back so when i look at this texans team they ran into the opponent that no one can beat injuries and even before that they kind of remind me of last year's jaguars in the sense that, sure, their record at this point in the year was good. Sure, they were winning, but they just, and I don't care, all these stat freaks are going to crucify me for this, but I don't care. They're not passing the eye test. And I know they could say, oh, but there's no data behind the eye test. But, like, I don't know. They're just, they felt so vulnerable.

These aren't blowouts, you know, that we're accustomed to for these, for this usually high-flying team. These are games that they're just grinding out. And now with tough jobs, we get tougher. Because you already lost Nico Collins. But now you've lost Stephon Diggs.gs and worse yet this is for the year and as far as nico collins goes i think he's eligible to come back like week 10 thing for the texans is maybe he comes back by week 10 maybe they extend his stay but at barest of minimums you're going to get him back.

In the meantime, your wide receiver one is going to be Tank Dell, and then you've got, I don't know, I think John Mechie. And they're solid, but you might have to lean on Dalton Schultz more. You might have to lean on Joe Mixon more. Like I said, I know they were never passing the eye test, but Houston just got a bad roll of the dice. Let's be honest. I mean, literally wide receiver one and two are hurt with Diggs, who's arguably the two, being done for the year.

I just, this, like I said, I don't think of anyone who can really beat injuries when they're affecting this many players and it's this widespread. They've already been banged up before. Joe Nixon missed like five weeks. They've been chewing through running backs until Nixon came back. So, yeah, it's just like I said, just like a bad roll of the dice. But when Collins gets back, things should turn around, hopefully. Aaron? All right.

If I'm going to be honest here, I never saw the Texans as a legit Super Bowl threat at all, really. I just seemed to assess a playoff team that's just there. You know, they might win a game and then lose. That's probably what's going to happen. But I know this might sound crazy. I still think the Jaguars are going to win the division, man. Something's just telling me they're going to win the division.

I know it's crazy, okay? I know it's crazy, but the Texans are going to fall apart. Yeah, they got the Jets this week, okay? Yeah, the Jets. They're probably going to beat the Jets, and then that's when the collapse is going to happen. CJ Stroud is a good quarterback. I think he'll figure out a win-to-win at least, I don't know, maybe a few more games.

But Stephon Diggs is definitely going to hurt their passing game a decent amount. I know I'm all over the place right now, but, yeah, that's all I've got to say with the Texans, though, on that. Yeah, listen, they haven't been quite as good as I thought they would be, but I still feel they've been fine as far as – I don't think they've been as bad as the – at least as under as bad as the – at least as underwhelming as the Jaguars were last year.

That was really bad last year. I mean, Trevor Lawrence was egregious. Even during the span where they were 8-3, I just felt something seems off. And sure, it's the same way with the Texans a little bit, but they at least look like they're fulfilling what they were supposed to be for the most part they're doing the bare minimum is what I would say the the Jaguars weren't quite where we wanted them to be the Texans are just right there they're like yeah they're there they're winning games they they look fine they

don't look unconvincing they just don't look as good as they were supposed to. They look fine. They don't look unconvincing. They just don't look as good as they were supposed to be, which is fine. I get it. But now we're getting to a point, you need to elevate your play because you're losing players left and right. It's at a point where you can't just flip the switch whenever. Stephon Diggs is not going to be with you the rest of the season, and maybe not in a Texans uniform for the rest of his career since it's a one-year deal. And Nico Collins is gone until at least week 10. At least. That doesn't mean he's going to be ready by then.

So it could take him significantly longer. Who knows? And he could re-injure himself. Who knows? But Tank Dell, Dalton Schultz, Joe Mixon, that's going to have to be enough for CJ CJ Stroud He's going to have to show that he can do more with less here Because I'm not quite sure if they have enough Expect

Mixon to get Over 30 touches a game now Basically Yeah, they might have to go a little more run heavy I mean, he already We already saw it last week He had 25 carries against the Colts For 102 yards and a touchdown I mean, he's a little more run heavy. I mean, he already, we already saw it last week. He had 25 carries against Colts for 102 yards and a touchdown. I mean, he's been a very,

probably the biggest part of the Texans offense in my opinion is Joe Mixon. And he's going to end up being a way bigger part of that now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like they're going to have, they have have no choice they can't play pass heavy anymore because they just don't have the targets to do it um but they have they have some personnel there there's still players left nico collins should be back soon so um i think the texans still have as good a chance as anybody in the afc to come out and represent in the Super Bowl. So we'll see. This is going to be a very interesting stretch for the Texans here. With that being said, I want to get to the – we've touched on a couple NFC teams.

I want to get to the NFC, a couple juicy storylines, one involving the Lions. But right now, up next, we're going to talk about the Offensive Rookie of the Year race and what was probably one of the most anticipated games between a Washington team and a Bears team. In recent memory, you usually think that's a game that's just like an afterthought, just a backwash game where it's like, okay, there's football on. Even a Thursday night football game. But in this one, it was a little, there were some more storylines to it and it kind of lived up to the hype in an ugly way. That's next.

This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumble Ruski podcast by Power 88 in Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Chris Kostich, special guest aaron wise all right so the washington commanders beat the chicago bears 18 to 15 and we hyped this this was almost our game of the week but because jayden daniels was uncertain to play we decided to we opted with bills and the seahawks um which was also a dud but uh the big story of this matchup was that both teams were four and two and five and two they

were having very they were outdoing themselves as far as the season has gone so far and they have the the two front runners for offensive rookie of the year um these two were as far as the betting odds went 200 points apart so they were right there with each other and it was within margin of error and caleb williams was noticeably behind going into this game this one kind of gave it a little bit this gave jayden daniels a little bit more space and it's not that bad because they both played pretty poorly don't be fooled by these statistics but from jayden daniels 326 yards and a touchdown 21 for 38 caleb williams was significantly worse but most of these stats from daniels were from that one hail mary play which was an incredible play as far as just the entertainment standpoint goes as far as talent goes let me tell you

something about the hail mary it is a play that is in my opinion the most overrated play in sports shut up when you look at it shut the fuck up whoa whoa chris chris whoa whoa let him finish let him hang on a second all it requires all of this requires is arm strength just get it into the end zone with some arc, and at that point it's a prayer. That's why it's called a Hail Mary. So, like, and on this particular play, it bounced over the pile.

It ricocheted off the pile and right into Noah Brown's hands. And listen, I'm not, I'm not going to pile on Jaden Daniels. This is exactly what you're supposed to do, but if anything, it would be a problem if he didn't make it to the end zone. That's my issue there. It's a luck play. And this one in particular was the most lucky. Now we can talk about how Tyreek Stevenson was celebrating before the play even happened. That was stupid, egregiously bad. But let's not act like the Hail Mary play is the easiest play in football to defend. All you have to do is stand there in the end zone and bat it away.

And they couldn't do that. That was a big problem. It's no, shut up. No, just shut up. Just shut up no just shut up just shut up i'm sorry but you can't just say that the hail mary is the easiest thing to or the easiest thing to defend because you just have to bat it away tyreek stevenson is the reason why they practice it's not like you go out and do a hail mary all willy-nilly you actually practice what you're doing on a Hail Mary.

The offense practices where everyone's going to go. The defense practices. It's not like you're going out there and getting out into a huge punch. The defense is actually getting on a man. And the reason why the Tyreek Stevenson thing is so brutal is because, A, he's taunting the fans as the play is going on and b he's not getting his body on a man which is why noah brown is bare ass in the back of the end zone when the ball gets deflected i'm sorry i can't be with you on this one that this is that's a wild mary play

it is a luck play you cannot dispute that it's luck play, but the defense still has to make a fucking play. It's still hard. Are you telling me it requires – Of course you have to practice it. You have to practice everything, but that doesn't make it any less of a luck play. Yeah, it's a luck play, but the defense still has to go out and make a play. It's still a hard play to defend because anything can happen you shit you gotta at the very least bat it out of the end zone and that's hard enough to do when you got

20 sets of hands going in on the ball uh may i interject yeah my thing here so so i don't know this was the game that regard we said regardless of who won was going to really tip the offense rookie of the year race a certain direction you know i mean you know you know how these uh tip games can go no No offense to Tyreek Stevenson. But I just, like you said, I know a lot of that came from that Hail Mary. It's just that Caleb Williams did not look good. Jayden Daniels looked all right. I mean, better than that. It was a really ugly game and with a really awesome ending.

But yeah, Jayden Daniels is the rightful frontrunner as it sits now. And barring a collapse, it should be his to lose. And I mentioned that the media, they might be all seeing, but I promise you they are not all knowing. And I mentioned this and I said, like, whoever wins this game is probably going to end up winning offense rookie of the year because barring like a massive collapse from Daniels even if they finish neck and neck they're going to say yeah but Daniels won the head-to-head and that's probably how it's going to be so unless Caleb Williams becomes like Tom Brady and Jaden Daniels just falls off a cliff or injuries or anything like that then it should go to Daniels because that was the real storyline in this game. And a note on Hail Marys. You can talk about luck. You can talk about whether or not they

practice it. Well, yeah, I mean, obviously they do practice it. That is what I don't know practice is for. But when it comes to luck, how often do we see the Tyreek Stephensons of the world, this world-class jackass taunting the fans instead of getting up and getting on his man? This rarely happens. I mean, in fact, I would say it never happens. No one has that much of a mental lapse, and his mistake directly contributed to that Hail Mary. In fact, I am confident in saying if he gets his shit together,

more likely than not, that goes incomplete. And by the way, Adam's right about it being arm strength. I mean, you have, I mean, look, they look nice. And you know, you have the Aaron Rodgerses of the world that just says, ah, screw it. Someone's down there somewhere because that's what it is. You're not angling for a guy. You're just hoping your guy can make the play.

And, Chris, you played quarterback in high school. You're a quarterback. And I respect that. I do. But I would be remiss if I didn't note that the ball did not make it to the end zone. It was tipped directly into the hands of Noah Brown. That is all. Okay. And not many other quarterbacks are throwing it from their own, can throw it from their own 35 or 30 to make it to the goal line. That's,

that's not your everyday court. Jaden Daniels can't throw it. He did say he can throw it about 70 yards. I don't know if he. No, no. I'm not debating that. I'm just saying, look, I'm not going to debate that it's tough, and I'm not going to debate that it's something they practice. But if it's really as common as you think it is, why don't they succeed more often?

No, I'm not saying, I'm not disagreeing that like, yeah, the Hail Mary is a lot of luck, but there's still a lot that goes into the Hail Mary play itself. And to say that it's overrated, in my opinion, is just a slap in the face to football itself. I will say this though. Well, I do agree it is luck based i do take offense with it saying overrated look adam i get where you're coming from but how is it overrated if it's rare like when you see a successful hail mary god damn it that's one of

the coolest things in the game like i mean to see that final like last second walk off miracle i've always thought it was cool so like i don't know how it's overrated i mean yeah in a lot of cases there are corebacks that have said it's like screw it it's down there somewhere but it doesn't make it just any less interesting because that's what it is it's about the showmanship it's about the big fireworks ending like i don't get how that's overrated especially given the fact that it is exceedingly rare if you don't if you think the hillbilly is overrated you have to look at it through you have to look looking at it through an entertainment standpoint yeah it's it's it's a fun play to watch.

But if you think it's anything other than luck, then I think that's a little overrated. Yeah. Especially since it's a tiny part of the game. It's the last play of the game, and the vast, vast majority of the time it doesn't work. So yeah, it's a very entertaining play. I'm not disputing that. It's extremely entertaining. It's thrilling.

But if you're looking at – the problem I have with the Hail Mary is that it's like a skill play. Everyone looks at Aaron Rodgers and they say, well, Aaron Rodgers is the best at throwing Hail Marys. Well, yeah, he has the arm strength to get it there. That's great and all, but that just makes him a great thrower of the football. It's literally F it. Devontae Adams is up there somewhere. That's all it is. I mean, I'll give you that. I don't think that makes it overrated though. It just, I mean, I don't, I mean, yeah, it is, but that is literally the point of a Hail Mary.

I don't think that makes, I think low key, this is going to sound stupid, but I genuinely think you're both right. You're both wrong, but you're both right. I mean, like, yeah, it is, I wouldn't call it overrated, but it is luck. And I just think that's what makes it cool. Well, yeah, that makes it cool. And I, I'm not, I'm completely not disputing the fact that it's a very entertaining play. I love watching that play, but if we're going to talk about like if this is a if this is a testament to skill of jade and daniels this was a luck play it ricocheted not didn't even make it to the end zone ricocheted off the pile and into noah brown's hands because of blown coverage by dumbass tyreek stevenson yeah i mean that's why it's not that it's a jade daniels thing i don't even think chris said it was a jayden daniels thing well i was saying it's not a jayden daniels thing

that's that's the point i was making well you can say that without you don't have you can say that without saying the hell mary is overrated there i mean yeah literally like that's that was the reason we were like huh it requires i mean no one has very little skill. It was a James Daniels thing. You're attacking points we don't have. Points that you don't have. I was saying that it's a luck-based play. So, therefore, it's a little overrated. All right.

Whatever. Aaron? Okay, there we go. Yeah, I was trying to say something, but I couldn't say that. I was trying to stay awake because I was drinking some bubblers. Okay, anyways. So that dude that didn't get his man to hell marry, I'm going to be honest with this. That's honestly something that the Jets would do.

That's like a Jet. They would talk trash and then get burned. So, yeah. Honestly, if I'm being honest, though, I do think the Hail Mary is a look play because 1% of the time, there's a whopping 1% chance that it's going to get completed. So there's a 99 chance it's not going to happen. Just like the onside kick. The onside kick almost never happens now.

I mean, it is what it is. Sometimes so too. When you win football games, sometimes you need some luck to happen. I mean, it happens. So Daniel Daniels, it happened. He won. It was crazy. I saw it at the gym live, which was kind of insane.

I didn't think it was going to happen. I thought the Bears had it in the bag. But right now, though, yeah, J.M. Daniels, in my opinion, right now is going to win the Rookie of the Year race, like Office of Rookie of the Year. I think he's going to be better than Kidd Williams. Kidd Williams looked – I'll be honest, though, too. Like J.M. Daniels had way more better games this year so far than Kidd Williams.

Kidd Williams had too many games where he looked absolutely like abysmal, like just buds. I know the game on Sunday, he did come back a little bit, did – took the lead. And then we also talked about week one where Kidd Williams, I know he's just a rookie, I know it's his first game, but he did absolutely nothing to help the Bears beat the Titans. He was basically

all defense, and Will Liv is doing Will Liv's stuff. But yeah, I do believe Jalen Daniels will win the Rookie of the Year this year over Caleb. But overall, though, oh yeah, one last thing. But overall, though, it was a good game if you're like a defensive guy.

If you're like a defensive, you like, you know, all that nastiness, like low scoring, then that's probably the game for you. But, all right, that's it. That's all I got to say. I will say, though, like actually talk about the game and not a freaking Hail Mary. Actually talk about the game itself. Caleb Williams played three really shitty quarters of football

and showed up in the fourth quarter when it mattered most. So the thing with this Bears defense, and they've kind of shown this the entire season, is that the defense is going to keep this team in the game for every single game this year. And that has been utmost fact for, I'd say, pretty much every single game this year. And that has been utmost fact for, I'd say pretty much every single game. Now it's just a matter of Caleb Williams actually showing up now. But yeah,

Jaden Daniels, both, both quarterbacks did not have the greatest games, but Jaden Daniels by far did put himself further ahead in the offensive rookie of the year race. I think, I think everyone can agree on that. But if we're going to throw in another storyline,

Matt Eberflus needs to be fucking fired. And I think everyone knows that because Tyreek Stevenson thing, yeah, we can say that he's a dipshit for that, but that's Matt Eberflus' problem. That is wholeheartedly a Matt Eberflug's problem two different drives two different drives in the fourth quarter where caleb williams actually started to figure it out and actually looked a little bit like he has been in the last three games uh where they one of the one of which they should have had a touchdown the next one they did score that was just ridiculous and it's at a point like yeah i mean coaching is is an issue but i think i'm

i'm more encouraged by the fact that caleb williams was able to figure it out a little bit he didn't just he didn't just roll over in the face of a bad game it's i i preach this all the time on this show it's that not don't judge a quarterback by how he does on his good days, because everyone on a good day, everything's going to go your way on a bad day. How do you respond to it? How do you respond to that adversity? And I thought Caleb Williams, he answered it pretty well. Am I going, am I saying that he's better than Jaden Daniels? No. Jaden Daniels is probably going to win Offensive Rookie of the Year. Who ends up having a better career?

Who knows by now. But overall, if you are a fan of either team and you looked at your quarterback, you were probably encouraged in some way, shape, or form. Because the future of the league is very bright as far as this draft class goes. we've already discussed this plenty of times each and every week. This rookie class looks very good.

Caleb did not have the best game, but he responded well. He responded to the adversity. And so did Jaden Daniels. Only problem is I just think his stats are slightly padded. In fact, not slightly. 52 of those yards were off the Hail Mary and a touchdown pass, making it look like he had an amazing game, which is just not true. And up until that final play, the Commanders didn't even score a touchdown.

They scored 12 points off field goals. So just overall, a very disappointing game game i thought it was underwhelming it lived up to the hype in the sense that it was it was just a it was a good game because it was competitive but it was more so both teams just was we're not playing very well i was very i was i'm very excited about the future of these two teams but i'm also underwhelmed by the game itself. It was a victory at the end of the game, but based on one team's mistake, based on a little bit of luck, and both teams did not play to their fullest potential.

So pretty mixed bag here, I would say. Yeah. And back to the coaching point though i and i did see one person on twitter say and i i agree with this the commanders right now is what people thought the bears were going to be this year and not to say the bears aren't having a good season but the commanders are far and away been performing a lot better than the bears i feel like um and just looking at the press the postgame presser for both dan quinn and matt eberflus matt eberflus basically discrediting the three play three or so plays prior to the hail m and Dan Quinn praising the three plays prior to the hail

Mary, the three plays that got them within range to at least have a shot at throwing this ball. And that I think that's wholeheartedly the difference. One coach discrediting a game of inches and the other coach that is one coach that is hammering down the importance of how the importance of those three plays. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we should expect better football from both teams going forward. This was overall an ugly game for both sides. The only reason this was a competitive game is because both teams played poorly. So in a weird way, it was still an entertaining game,

which was kind of funny to watch. And the fact that they just, it was almost, we raised this point for other teams in other matchups. It's whoever wanted to lose the most or whoever, I forget exactly what we said. It's like whoever wanted it less, whatever it was, that was kind of what it felt like in this game. It's like Jaden Daniels was playing poorly.

He was starting drives very well, but he was finishing them with merely field goals. Caleb Williams was throwing passes behind guys' backs. If you remember that one viral play where he just, there was a wide open guy from behind the line of scrimmage overthrew him by 10 feet. Just an overall really ugly game. So I think if we're, we should expect better football going forward, but speaking of better football, let's talk about another team in the NFC. We're going to get to the Detroit Lions, who just don't know how to

lose. In fact, they don't know how to lose by more than three scores. That's next. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 and Seeker Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros, Chris Kostic, special guest Aaron Wise, I want to talk a little bit more about the Detroit Lions.

Because we've praised them a lot this season in talking about a few blowouts that they have been a part of. But they just keep doing it. And it's not just the fact that the Lions beat the Titans 52-14, that they dropped a 50 burger on the uh on this tennessee team a defense that's actually pretty decent this year i mean their offense is something else but um as far as as far as offense goes holy crap so 52 52 this. They dropped 31 against the Vikings, who have been this year one of the better defenses in the league.

They dropped 47 at AT&T Stadium against the Cowboys. And then they scored 42 on the Seahawks. They've won their fifth straight. They continue to win. And I think the most intriguing part of it is that they dropped 52 while not asking for much from each team player individually. Nothing was placed on one guy, right? Jared Goff may have thrown for three touchdowns, but he only passed for 85 yards. Jameer Gibbs had 127 rushing yards. He had one touchdown, but, I mean, if you look at what David Montgomery has done,

he has two total touchdowns in this game. Amin Ross St. Brown only had seven receiving yards, but he caught a touchdown. Kalief Raymond, he had two total touchdowns. One of them was on a punt return. Another one was on a touchdown reception. Sam Laporta was their lead receiver with 48 receiving yards and he caught a touchdown. So it's like, pick your poison. It's like, you don't have to place everything on one guy with this team. They're continuously winning by a team effort. They find different ways to beat different teams and they're dropping a ton

of points on them. And it seems like they're making it look effortless. This isn't just a revenge tour. This is a pull your pants and pull your pants down and stare at you laughing, pointing type of campaign. This has been one of those types of seasons so far for the Lions. They're on a revenge tour. Guys, your thoughts? Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the coffin with the team part because this was the existential definition of a team win, right? 52 points and just looking solely on special teams because special teams is the most forgot about thing in football sometimes.

And it's one of the most important aspects of football because it can flip field position like a motherfucker i mean khalil dorsey had one kick return he took it 72 yards without even scoring khalif raymond 90 yard punt return for a touchdown he had 198 yards total which means that the other four he's averaging about 25 yards per punt return on the other four returns, which is pretty insane in itself, right? And if you're able to flip the field position like that, there's going to be a reason why Jared Goff only has 85 yards, and it's because the Lions offense is getting set up with amazing field position, along with two interceptions that the Lions got as well for 41 extra yards.

There's another flip in field position right there. It's like special teams was on display in this game. And I, at this rate, I don't see a reason why the Lions won't go to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I am inclined to agree i just this is another scenario where i just think the only thing that can stop the lions are probably themselves you know slash injuries but what's the point of trying to predict that come on i just the lions you know them finally being like a legit contender is still weird to me and a lot of people might be tempted to say hey you know same old lions but that's not

any there's not any argument that i personally subscribe to the fact that jared Goff didn't even crack triple-digit yards and they won in a blowout, granted it was against the Titans, but the Titans do have a solid-ish defense. That just shows how fundamentally sound the Lions are, especially on defense and the forgotten-art special teams. So, like I said, I really do think it's impressive that the offense doesn't necessarily have you firing on all cylinders for the rest of the team to pick up the slack because

because usually there are some teams that are so dominant just on one area of the game where uh faltering anywhere else can cost them the game the lions are not that team they're balanced and balance oh that is your good friend come January. Aaron? Okay, so the Lions, okay. I know the Lions are, yeah, I was looking them up. And who did they lose to? Oh, that's right.

Yeah, I was looking at who they lost to for a second. I forgot. But, yeah, the Lions are a pretty darn good team. It's kind of crazy that they're 6-1. I never thought I'd be saying that. But this is my theory, okay? I know they beat the Titans. They blew them out.

I know they looked great a couple days ago. But I have seen before, though, when teams would start to season out like crazy records like this, when it comes November, December, they tend to go downhill, and then they never get back to where they were. So my biggest concern with the Lions is that I hope they didn't peak too soon because I've seen the Cardinals a few years ago. When they went 7-0, they they looked crazy good and all of a sudden it took that one loss to the Packers and then all of a sudden they would just look very iffy after that and then yeah they made the playoffs though but they didn't look the same so hopefully

hopefully my big my biggest concern is that they ain't picked too soon because the NFC is a pretty good conference like there's a lot of good teams. A lot of teams have winning records and such like that. So, yeah, that's what I got on the lines. Yeah, listen, they've been everything that I thought they would be and more. I cite the 85 passing yards from jared goff as a good thing because we know that he's capable of doing more than what he did and it's not like he did that because of inefficient passing he went 12 for 15 on pat on passing those are pretty good passing

numbers good accuracy overall he can throw the ball very well. And we've seen him throw for 300 plus yards. It's not like he can't do that. So the fact that they were able to do this with minimal effort, all of the effort was spread. They distributed the wealth throughout this team to be able to drop 50 plus points. That means if any other players on this team are having off days, you can still end up winning the game because one player is going to have a really good day and, you know, take some of the pressure off and,

and bail the rest of the team out. Let's say, let's say Jared golf is having a bad game. He throws two picks. We know Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery can pick up the slack because we know they could, they could run a very run dominant team. If it's, if the, if the run game isn't working, they have Jamison Williams,

Amon Ross, St. Brown, Jamison Williams soon, but Amon Ross, St. Brown, Sam Laporta. You have a good team, and I think the defense, its best days are ahead of them. So it's a well-oiled machine. You can't really find the weakness here. It's hard to find the weakness. You know what?

That does bring me to final point just for a millisecond here before we move on to our final segment, top three, bottom three for week eight. They did lose Aiden Hutchinson a couple weeks ago to a broken leg. And the trade deadline is coming up soon. Next week. Yes. So expect this team to be in the market for an edge rusher. This is arguably the best team so far.

Arguably the best Lions team in the history of its franchise. I say arguably, but why would they not go all in and try to fill in one of their few weaknesses on the team? Why would they not do that? Oh, I got something to add with that, Adam.

So if the Lions are going to edge rusher, they should go get Hassan Reddick. I'll be, I'll be down. I want him off the Jets. I don't want to see him no more. I'm done. I'm glad I gave him. Yeah, I don't want to. I'm done. I'm done with that dude. I'll give him today, like tonight.

Yeah, I'll give him to the Lions. That's what the Lions should do. They should be calling the Jets. I've heard word of how they should go get hassan reddick uh they should go get max crosby um i think crosby might be a little bit more outlandish though because he said he wants to be a raider um and he fits that culture i don't really see another team that max crosby would go to but i mean hassan reddick I think would make a lot of sense. But the problem is that there is a clause in his contract that doesn't allow him to – it doesn't allow him to be traded

to other NFC teams. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forget about that. Oh, yeah, yeah, because if the Jets trade him there, then we give – I think we give the Eagles like a 26 second round pick or something. Okay, never mind. Darn, man. Stupid Jets.

Sorry. All right, continue, man. Diana Russini tweeted over the weekend. She said, Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, and Jeffrey Simmons are untouchable before the NFL trade deadline. And then in a second paragraph in the same tweet, well on X, either way,

you know what I'm talking about? I do expect the Panthers, Jedevian Clowney, the Packers, Preston Smith, and a different Browns vet, Zedarius Smith to draw some interest before the deadline. A few veterans who over the past few years have been very good at Zedarius Smith to draw some interest before the deadline.

A few veterans who over the past few years have been very good edge rushers who the Lions could call in and go out and grab because they'd be stupid to not try and plug in this one weakness. They'll probably be contenders next year when Aiden Hutchinson's back, but you'd also be crazy to not try to go all in on this season as well. Usually, making trades at the deadline does not take that early of a draft pick, especially for players like this who are veterans, just looking to get that one ring before they retire. Preston Smith, Jadavian Clowney, uh,

Zedaria Smith. These are all veterans who shouldn't take that much draft capital. In fact, it should be a fifth or a sixth at most. The lions should do that yesterday. They'll make a, they'll make a move. They got till next Tuesday.

Anyways, I think so. Yeah. If they get max Crosby, then that will just break the NFL. I really don't think they're going to get Max Crosby. Honestly, that's not that crazy actually. Because Max Crosby, he did say that he wants to win. So that makes sense.

That's a good fit. And it's an NFC team. Yeah. Why not? I would do it. Like, yeah, he wants to win, but he also wants to be a raider for life so you can't have two and two obviously it yeah yeah yeah yeah i i guess you're saying though but saquon barky said that last year too i want to be a giant for life you know what he

does he turns around goes to the eagles well the giants are willing to pay well the giants are willing to pay saquon whereas the raiders are more than likely to pay Max Crosby what he's worth. If Crosby gets traded, and let's say the Raiders did make that an option, and the Lions offered up a day two pick, even let's say a day one pick just for the exercise. A day one pick, so a first round pick for max crosby i do that yesterday because not not only does that you may be trading for him to overpay for him but go ahead and do it pay him then you have him and hutchinson next year so that you'll have a

ferocious defense to go go along with this offense that you've had over this season so far? I'd do that. Oh yeah, also too, Adam, if that actually did happen, if Crosby went to the Lions, I could see Aiden Henderson and Matt Scrappy second one guy and

high-fiving each other. Sure. Yeah, yeah. That would be a legendary pick right there man that would listen dude sure yeah i'm sure they'll high five a few times all right move on to our next to our next and final segment the week eight top three bottom three best and worst uh performances from week eight slate of action. That's next.

This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides welcome back to the fumble ruski podcast by power 88 and secret weapon consulting adam wright cj medeiros chris kostich special guest aaron wise

we have officially reached the final segment of the show every t. Top three, bottom three, best and worst performances from week eight Slayton of Action by Chris Kostich. Chris, floor is yours. Top three, bottom three. We'll start with the Thursday night game from week eight, the Rams and the Vikings. Rams being the top three. I mean, look, you get Puking Cup right back in your offense, and you're right back where he started.

And now you're in a spot where you can make a playoff run again. I mean, the defense still is a little shaky, but this offense looks extremely scary again. The Rams are definitely going to find themselves in a wild card spot. That's for sure. Going to the next one, it's going to be a little bit of a – it's our first and only game that makes it to the top three, bottom three. On the top three, the Browns. The bottom three, the Ravens.

I mean, the Ravens just losing to the Browns in general alone is enough to be on the bottom three. And to add into the fact that they lost to Jameis Winston as well, really kind of hammers that point home. On the Browns side, I mean, it's their first game without Deshaun Watson. I said this on Friday. It's either they're going to have a ton of energy and amazing vibes now that Jameis is in. Along with that, this is the second game Nick Chubb is back.

Or they're just going to get dog walked by the Ravens. And, well, they had a ton of energy coming into this game. And, boy, did Jameis Winston deliver considering he went 27 for 41, 334, three touchdowns. Cedric Tillman, everyone forgot this guy existed. Seven catches, 99 yards, and two touchdowns, including the go-ahead touchdown to take the lead. And now Jameis isn't the greatest quarterback in the world, but he is an amazing locker room guy.

And that alone is honestly a reason enough that the Browns were going to win this game. And also provided two amazing interviews, pregame and postgame, of this game as well. Almost like he was almost like he was reenacting lines that he had practiced in the mirror prior to the game. Like he was about to shoot the most important movie scene of his life. So awesome. Jameis Winston

He definitely practiced that in the mirror. Oh yeah. He did. Jameis Winston for present. I'm putting that in the right end. You can hold me to that. Not Drake May? And Drake May. Drake May for president. Jameis for vice.

Drake for president. Jameis for vice president. There you go. There you go. Jameis for president and Drake for vice. Drake is not vice. Give me Drake. All right.

Last team on the top three, the Eagles just, just mopping the floor with the Bengals in this game. And the Bengals having a really good offense and the Eagles not having the greatest defense. And they only let up 17 points while a Eagles offense that is kind of struggled in weeks past to kind of get stuff going.

I mean, yeah, they won 28-3 against the Giants. They also beat the Browns 20-16. They needed a big beatdown game on a pretty competent team. So I think that the Eagles are a good candidate for the last spot in the top three, uh, going back to the bottom three, the Colts. Now the Colts just made the decision today to bench Anthony Richardson. And basically the only reason why they're on the bottom three is the fact that they've

stuck with Anthony Richardson this whole time. And I I'm sorry. He's just not a good quarterback. Like 10 for 32, sacked five times, one interception. The only thing he has in his bag is his deep ball. He takes himself out of games, which I'm sorry, Anthony Richardson should never start a game ever again. As a quarterback, you never take yourself out of a game for any fucking reason. And yeah.

At Florida, CJ said this kid was a project's project. And even then, I don't know why anyone would even take a chance on him just based off of what we saw him do in Florida. Yeah, he may not even be that old. He might genuinely. And he just got benched for this week. Yeah, Joe Flacco now the starter. Speaking of really terrible quarterback play,

the Jets highlight the last spot in our bottom three. Aaron Rodgers is bad. The Jets, everyone thought that the Jets of right now was what Brady and the Bucs were going to be in 21. So everyone can go fuck themselves. Look, it goes all the way from Woody Johnson being a terrible owner to Aaron Rodgers being a dickhead to everyone to Hassan Redick being a jackass and deciding that it's a good idea to lose $800,000 every week

because he doesn't want to play, all the way down to the team keeping Greg Zerline, who I think his over-under is.5 on missed or, excuse me, over-under on missed field goals from now on should be 2.5 because that's how shitty of a kicker he is. This is a team that lacks discipline lacks any sort of drive they wasted three timeouts in the first quarter all three of their timeouts in the first quarter way too many times where aaron rogers is dilly-dallying himself up to the line of scrimmage to change the play or adjust their alignment or whatever to the point where they fucked up their two-point conversion

and got a delay of game. And the ensuing play was a diddly-ass slant route to Mike Williams at the three-yard line that got swarmed by the Patriots. And on top of that, you lost to the motherfucking Patriots. And as a Patriots fan, also honorable mention to the bottom three is you two jackasses for clowning me for picking the Pats this week. And my reason was fuck the Jets. That's why.

You didn't even give a good reason as to why they're going to lose. Exactly. And I said, fuck the Jets. I knew the Jets were going to lose that game. I knew it. I knew it. I knew we were losing that game. I knew it. I knew it. I knew we were losing that game. I picked against them too.

I knew we were losing that game, man. We're the damn Jets. It's the same old Jets that I've grown up watching for the last 23 and about to be 24 years of living. It will never change, and it will always be the same. And the only reason why it'll change is if woody johnson sells the team i don't know what they should change because this is a franchise long issue they just they they can't get out of their own way they've had a little bit like just

some small subsections of success during their time there was back-to-back AFC championship appearances with Mark Sanchez. They, they won a Superbowl like way, way back. The third one ever, actually. It's crazy that it's crazy that Mark Sanchez and the jets is the best jets team that they've had in the last 10 years.

It's just unbelievable how bad that this, Chris, with the, with the, with, with the level of play that with the level of talent that they have, it's just on, it's unreal. And I will fully,

I will fully admit that I believed this jets team would be competitive. And I, it makes me feel, it makes me want to put a paper bag over my head just eric should be the one with the favorite bag over his head no no no no no uh wait on chris i i want to do a quick fact check here on you and by the way the fact check proves your point you said the best jets team the last 10 years is when they had – I meant 15 because –

Okay, I was going to say. Nope, that was longer than 10 years ago. The best team the New York Jets have had in the past 10 years was that weird, fluky Ryan Fitzpatrick season where they still didn't go to the playoffs. And you know what? I said this in the chat and i'll say it now aaron rogers is officially out of excuses he killed his head coach had him literally chucked yeah he had

him chucked into the meadowlands where the wolves probably got him and as i know air rogers isn't a coach killer oh come on that is such bs did you hear aaron rogers say i had nothing to do with it man sounded like he was talking to a federal judge you know those lines were rehearsed and literally like what's it gonna take and by the way i can already hear these ditty loving aaron rogers fans all like you do realize that he doesn't have health. That's what they said in his career. So what's it now? He has Devontae Adams.

He has Brees Hall. He has Garrett Wilson. And he even has these smaller role guys like Alan Lazard, Mike Williams, Braylon Allen, and Tyler Conklin. They did a lot to fix the offensive line, and they have a top 10 defense. Literally, what's it going to take? This is a Rodgers thing. I said we need to pump the brakes on the Jets. I said I wasn't sold on Aaron Rodgers. And this is precisely why. Because at his core, Aaron Rodgers is cancer. He is a petulant man-child. And back in the day, you know,

when he was being a diva, he was still winning MVPs. You had to let it slide. But guess what? His days of winning MVP are gone. He is a geriatric, or at least in the football sense, geriatric game manager. And you know what you do with cancer? You cut it out.

Aaron Rodgers' career is over. Just fling him into the Meadowlands and tell him to go join Sala because I got nothing. There is no way to fix a team with Aaron Rodgers on it. The only saving grace is for the Jets, you might pick high enough to pick his replacement. No, we won't. No, we won't.

No, we won't. Or Rodgers leaves and he becomes a Viking just like the former Packers quarterback. Then they'll be in business. Okay, okay. I got something to add. This is what's going to happen with the Jets. This is what they always freaking do to fuck the fans. Start from the language.

This is what they always do. I already know what's going to happen. This is what's going to happen. Okay, we might win Thursday night. The Jets, the whole Jets, Jets players, oh, man, we're good, guys. We're back. And then next week we get blown to smotherings, which is on Sunday night football.

And then this is what's going to happen. We're going to lose three games in a row, right? Lose three games in a row until we're mathematically eliminated. And all these courts coming to, like, Chargers, Senators, all these core recs, man, that we need. You know what the Jets are going to do? They're going to win too many games and then fuck us, and then now we have nothing.

Now we got to figure something out. That's what they always do. We're screwed. Even the Jets do get the number one pick somehow, which I doubt. We're going to ruin the core rec anyway. Either way, we're done. We are screwed. We are screwed.

Either way, I have no confidence, man. My confidence is shot. It's shot. And that Patriots game last Sunday, man, was not a football game. That was a clown show. I was laughing. I was laughing. I was like, I came up really about to lose the Patriots, man. Like, literally, that first touchdown when Drake Mays scored a touchdown,

he wasn't running that fast. He jogged. He jogged. He jogged. He jogged, yo. He jogged that shit in, though. I think that's the other craziest part about this loss is that the Jets cheap shot at Drake May and brought in Brissette, and they still lost. They still lost to Jacoby Brissette.

Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh. And here's another two minutes. I got to get on the Jets, okay? All right. I'm sick and tired and sick and tired of hearing how great Saunders Garner is. He's so overrated. He never catches picks.

Now he's getting burned by some randoms. I don't know what that – he's getting burned. Like it's sad. He's getting burned by a guy with the last name of Booty. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah. He got burned like that. That one play when he got name of Booty. That's what it is. Yeah, he got burned. That one play when he got burned by Booty, he fell to the ground and he tried to act like nothing happened.

And then Garrett Wilson can't catch now. I don't know what's going on. It's just we're done. We're done. We're 2-6. It's over. I'm tired. No, things got so bad, and I've never done this as a fan.

I had to block the Jets on social media for a while I didn't want to see I didn't want to see Instagram shit. I don't want to see how great Aaron riders is I'm sick and tired see everybody's little stupid little throws it. Oh, we got the fancy Adams. Oh, yeah Sorry, I don't hear it. I had to block the Jets. I blocked all the beat writers I had a black rich see me. I to block Conor Hughes. I couldn't. I didn't want to see you no more. Okay, the Jets broke me, man. Bro, they broke me, man.

I got to take a break. I can't see it no more. I can't take it. Okay? And then I started filing more Celtics stuff because I was trying to get some positive energy. The Jets broke me, man. I don't know. I'm done with Aaron Rodgers.

He can go. Go. Get out of here. And Aaron Rodgers, man, you're a joke, bro. He out here saying, oh, man, I'm in the Aaron Rodgers. He can go. Go. Get out of here. And Aaron Rodgers, man, you're a joke, bro. He out here saying, oh, man, I'm in the darkness, man. Yes, you are. You are in the darkness. And I have to say it, too.

Okay? I have to say it, too. This is what's going to happen this Thursday night. Aaron Rodgers, this will be the game where he'll be known as the Jets, as the vintage moment. Remember last year when Tim Boyle had that fail Hail Mary? That's what he's known for now. Couldn't reach the end zone, gets picked,

picked on right in that shit, back to the foot of the touchdown. Oh, Black Friday! Okay? And then Mark Sandler's butt fumbled. We'll never forget about that, sadly, on Thanksgiving Day. And Aaron Rodgers, I don't know what he's going to do, but he's going to do some funny shit too on Thursday night on Spooky Day, and he's going to do, but he's going to do some funny shit too on Thursday night on Spooky Day

and he's going to be known for that too. Oh, one more thing too. Sam Dorrow, remember that game? Remember that four interception game against the Patriots? Oh, I'm seeing ghosts. You know Aaron Rodgers is going to be known for something funny too. You know it's happening. You know it's coming. It's not over yet. Once that happens, it's a cherry on top

for the season. You know it's happening. I'm glad we were able to get that ran in. I know amongst all of us shitting on the Jets, I really wanted to get Aaron to admit that this season is over for them.

No, no, no. It is done. It is done. I'm tired of these fans saying, oh, no, we're still in this, guys. We still can get it. No, we're done. Aaron Rodgers quit. The whole done. I'm done. I'm done. I hate this team. I'm done. I shut the game off. I had to go on the walk for a while outside in the dark, listen to some music, try to watch some Celtics highlights, something. Come back inside. Let's see the games better.

No, it's even worse. Okay. It's over. It's over. It's over. We're always going to be the Jets. And I realize too, even when we do break things up, right? We'll always be the Jets. We're always going to be the Bears.

Sorry, I'm over the place right now. Roger Kandel, this is what you need to do. You need to take the Jets off the Colts in the Jets-Senate football game. Please don't. Please, please, please, please do. I'm tired of being the Bears, man. Take us off the Senate football, man.

I don't want to see the Jets don't deserve primetime games. And the fact they're favored, one-point favored against a Texas insane. Anyways, that might rain. That might rain. All right. As bad as this Jets team was, I feel like we talk so much now about how bad the Jets are that we just completely forget that the Patriets were bad in this game, that the Patriots were bad in this game too. The amount of drops that we saw from the Pats in their wide receiving court made me sick to my stomach.

Seeing the way that this wide receiver room talks off the field is egregious and i'm sorry i know that we're all going to say that the hit on drake may was dirty which it it was illegal it was an illegal hit you're not going to get any sort of disagreement from me there oh boy i know you were about to say something yeah you know i'm gonna see it anyway let me finish let me already here late slide late slide oh he slid he slid what else You know, I'm going to see it anyway. This is where I'm going to tell you to shut the fuck up. I can already hear. Late slide. Late slide. He slid. He slid.

What else do you want him to do? It was a late slide. That's all I'm saying. He slid. So what? He slid. It's not a flat. It's better than what Tua does.

It's not because he got knocked out of his husband. Tua's brain damaged ass goes forward. But Drake Mays slid and it doesn't literally. And look, I get it. Smart with the ball. But still, it doesn't change. I agree. That douche nozzle Jets fan.

I agree. Jets guy there is all just like, hey, I'm just going to just lead with the crowd in my head and see where that goes. And the selective outrage of this is nuts. And I'll tell you why. Because if this happened in my homes, Jamie and Sherwood would be thrown in the same cell that Diddy is. It was a late slide. It wasn't late.

It wasn't late. It was late. It wasn't late. It was very late. It was extremely late. Literally last second, as he knew he was getting tackled, he goes, okay, I'm going to go down. Dude, I'd rather you be safe than take those extra yards and then at the last second go, oh shit, now I need to slide.

As somebody is leading in, diving at you, now you go in to slide. That made no sense. Like he's supposed to see that the guy's coming in head first? Like he saw two guys in front of him and he slid and didn't see the guy that was diving in head first behind him. What else do you want Drake to do? He saw him and then he slid, which is like you have to – And then the guy dove in head first.

The guy was literally going to like try to take him out like regardless i agree i'm just saying like you have to anticipate that a little earlier i'd rather i'd rather he slide a few yards early than get everything you can possibly get and then at the very last second go and slide because you're you're the quarterback you need to make sure that you are not taking any unnecessary hits. So yeah, I think two things are true at once. I think that was a bad hit. That was an ugly hit. At the same time, I want to see him slide a little bit earlier than that. I think there are two things that are true at once there. That's all.

Whatever. Okay, my turn? All right. So tap three, whatever. My turn? All right. Top three, whatever. Oh, we did? We've kind of gone away from reviewing these teams at this point. We've kind of just been checking on both the Jets and the Pats. Yeah, no, I ain't going to lie, though. I had to run in the Jets, man.

I've been going to Rampage lately with the Jets, man. I lost it, man. I've been going to rampage lately with the Jets, man. I lost it, man. I lost it. Everybody has a breaking point. Even me. Even me. I don't think I told you guys this. I think you guys

probably saw my story probably about a year ago. But I don't have Zach Wilson's jersey no more. I burned it. It was a funeral. It was a funeral. I've seen a lot of burned Aaron Rodgers jerseys on social media.

I'm done with him. The Jet fans are turning on him. If Aaron Rodgers throws one airmail pass, if he throws one airmail pass, screw that. The Jet fans won't show up. They won't show up. It'll be all tickets. If I'm a season ticket holder, I'm getting all my tickets and I'm giving them away. Here, you can have them for free. I don fans won't show up. They won't show up. If I'm a season ticket holder, I'm getting all my tickets and I'm giving away.

Here, you can have them for free. I don't want to show up. I ain't going to show up. I was watching at home and we lose, we lose. At least we lose and I don't lose money over it. I mean, you are losing money, but still. But, yeah, man. It's done, man.

I don't know where we go from here man see no i'm sick and tired of sick and tired of seeing let's say the patriots man because you know the past me good again because they always figure out a way to be good somehow but the jets always suck the dolphins are okay the dolphins kind of bad this year but the bills are good they figured out that the pages are going to figure out some way, somehow. The Dolphins figured it out, even though they're not good this year. The Jets always suck. We always suck. We always suck.

I don't know what it is. Aaron Rodgers is contaminated with the green. He's contaminated. We could bring Mahomes in here. He'll be bad. We could bring... I don't believe it at this point. I'll be straight. Honestly, man, things have gotten so bad that if I play in the Broncos against the Jets,

I might be able to beat the Jets. Oh, Nick's did it by throwing 61 yards. You're telling me I can't throw a few passes, some few 10-yard passes and run a little bit? I could jog and get 20 yards somehow. Drake May did it.

He jogged it. He took the touchdown. I could jog and get 20 yards somehow. Drake May did it. He jogged it. He took the touchdown. I couldn't believe it. Things have gotten so bad, Aaron is literally demanding, put me in there. Yes, it's that bad. Dude, I can beat the Jets somehow, okay? I have a noodle arm now, okay?

I'm a Tim Tebow 2.0, and I'm somehow some way winning the game. At least you were. How? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I got the speed, though. But the throwing man, I don't know what happened. I used to play flag football. I don't know that really counts as playing quarterback, okay?

But, yeah, I know it don't count. It's not pads, it's flags but yeah well yeah yeah i do get the speed so so so i could be like i feel like a title huntley slash tim tebow but yeah that's all i got so the jets made that that's enough ranting but yeah all right i think we've talked this to death both of our teams that were a fan of stink. It's fun to talk about all the teams around the league. It was, it was fun going over the Ravens,

the lions, the Texans, Jaden Daniels versus Caleb Williams has been a fun race to cover, but I, I long for the year that the Patriots are back in contention. I'd be lying. If I said I wasn't a little upset with how behind we are in this rebuild. Six years since Tom Brady left.

And here we are still talking about how we're a couple years off from contention. It's pretty bad. All right, well, that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us. We have new episodes out on Tuesdays at 7.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time and Fridays at 5.00. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. We also have all our episodes available on Spotify, Spreaker, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Google Podcasts, and so much more. Also, be sure to follow our Instagram at fumble ruski underscore podcast and our Tik

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