The Fumblerooski Podcast - No Pressure -Ep 92 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: June 22, 2022

Who are the top-5 Edge Rushers in the NFL? Justin Tucker and CJ Medieros debate the best rushers in the league as well as discuss the most underrated at the position

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Touchdown! Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are the Fumble Risky Podcast, powered by Power 88, Dean Radio, and fans on WeSportsRadio. My name is Justin Tucker, alongside my good friend CJ Medeiros. CJ, how are you doing today? You know what, Justin? I'm great. I'm great. And it's not often you and I get to do an episode together.

This is a special time for the Fumble Rooski family. Isn't that just nice? Oh, man. It makes me feel so much better when you're around. Well, the good news is you guys have me to host. The bad news is Adam will be out tonight. We wish you the best of luck, Adam, whatever you are doing. We miss you. Hopefully you'll be back next week. But that does not mean we don't have a good show for you. and the Fomorowski fan box where we talk about with our fans about the top or their underrated

edge rusher in the NFL. So without further ado, CJ, would you like to kick us off? As a matter of fact, I would, Justin. All right. My number five, many will disagree with this, but I would say now Philly linebacker Hassan Redick, or edge rusher, linebacker, but technically an edge rusher. Now, a lot of people will say, but why? Let me tell you something. He has had two elite seasons, and no one talks about him and look just last season 68 combined tackles and 11 sacks to and on top of that two forced fumbles so you used to be reddick was used mostly as like an outside linebacker off ball kind of guy then they moved him to the edge in 2020 where he had 12.5 sacks, and he burst onto the scene.

And since then, he corromes from one-year prove-it deal to one-year prove-it deal. He has had back-to-back seasons of double-digit sacks, and there's a real chance he gets double-digit sacks again. He's currently, I think, on like a one-year or so deal with the Eagles. I could be wrong. If I am, let me know.

But all I know is he does not, you know, his pay does not match up to what he brings to the table. And mark my words, he's going to deserve a fat increase should he, you know, should he get a third straight double-digit sack season. What about you, Tucker? He's on a $15 million per season deal, which also includes a $30 million fully guaranteed. Wait, is he?

Oh, well, good. Good. I'm glad. Finally, he's got his money. He did make his money, according to NBCSports.com. So congratulations to him, and congratulations to the Eagles. You know what? I'm sorry.

I could have sworn because I know he had like two straight deals, and now he's finally got his money. Good, good, good. But still, like I said, 68 tackles last season and 11 sacks. Enough said. My thing is I'm not sure if he's top five based upon the other guys that might, that are on my list, but I could see him having top five production on that defensive line with

Philly. Cause now that I'm thinking about it, you got Javon Hargraves, Fletcher Cox and Jordan Davis on that line as well. Yeah. Oh, that, oh,

that's, hmm. I was just thinking off of the player, but if we're also doing likeuring and everything else around him, that's actually pretty damn good. Yeah, exactly. Like I said, back-to-back seasons of double-digit sacks. We want their zone among Carolina.

Yeah, and hopefully he will get one-on-one attention because I think that's how they're trying to line up their defense. They're going to have to get like put two people on jordan davis which again would put like one-on-one sufflector cox or jayvon hargraves which is ridiculous but at first i was shocked but that's actually a solid pick now before i go i just wanted to let everybody know that this was a difficult thing to create yeah as we can attest there is way too many good pass rushes out there that can do a myriad of things and there's only a few like freaks that can do every single thing so from my number my number

five is micah Parsons. You know something? I thought of putting him, and I just want to hijack this real quick, to say I really thought about it, but I put him in my top five linebackers, so I didn't know if I was going to put it in place. You're talking about off-ball guys, so it's your thing. You take it away, man. That's my thing.

The reason I put him at five is because I don't know what the Cowboys will do with him, whether they'll continually move him around the line or they'll just stick him at edge and keep him there. If they keep him at edge and he can consistently do this, oh, he's going to be top three sooner or later. He is a freak. He is unbelievable. But the way the Cowboys use him, I think that might hamper his production a little bit, which is why he'll be five. As a rookie, he came in and did everything that you asked him to do. And then some he was dominant on that Cowboys defense and he made it look more respectable than it actually is.

Considering the fact that their only other, I want to say, pro bowl caliber player on that defense is Trayvon Diggs, who had 11 interceptions. Now his coverage skills are up for debate. But didn't he give up like over 1,000 yards too? I believe so. So it wasn't a good year for a coverage basis. But for a turnover basis, it was a great year for him. So congratulations to him. He is, without a doubt, one of the best players in the nfl last year and hopefully he can keep on that production in year two and not have a sophomore slump but yeah he's he's been playing

pretty ridiculous and out of his mind when went on that edge so hopefully the cowboys can actually be intelligent about this and keep him there and not move him. But, yeah, he's going to move. Oh, Cowboys and intelligence. Don't mix. We'll see. Mm-hmm. Tell me about it. But, hey, we them boys, we going to the Super Bowl.

This year's our year for, like, the last 20 years. 25. It's 25 going on 26. Hey, a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe they're right this year. I don't know. Probably not. Heck, Philly might take the division for all we know.

Yeah. I could see that happening because no one wins like back to back. Mm-hmm. All right. So who's your number four? All right. Coming in at number four, I'm going to put old reliable Cam Jordan from the Norland Saints. Now, Cam Jordan is insane, even at the ripe old age of like he's over 30.

I believe 32. But yeah, you know, this is usually when they start declining not so now he didn't really have a good 2020 season we're only not seven and a half sacks so like 51 tackles yeah not so this year 59 tackles and 12 and a half sacks at age 32 that is insane not to mention on the line, what they don't talk to him, what they don't talk about him is that he's kind of reminds me of JJY in the sense how he can knock down balls at the line of scrimmage. You know, like JJY used to do that a lot. Last year, he had six passes deflected at the line. That is insane. And two forced fumbles to boot. and he's like this really big bodied presence that can also stuff the run if need be he's good at sniffing out the run and he's shown that he can consistently get to the quarterback this guy in my eyes has to be at least a slam dunk you know for top five

or reliable he gets it done great in the past great in the run and it's just and he's a tackling machine and like i said there's always that threat of him knocking down balls at the line Well, he gets it done great in the past, great in the run, and he's a tackling machine. And like I said, there's always that threat of him knocking down balls at the line. So even as old, I say old, you know, like for football, he's still got a lot left in the tank, and he can pretty much literally do anything you ask him to. Yeah. Cameron Jordan was a solid pick. His age may be questionable, but, again,

if he can continue to perform at that high of a level, I mean, who am I? I'm just saying, age 32 season, 12 and a half sacks. That is nothing to sneeze at, really. Nothing at all. I wish I had that production on my line, but that's not going to be fair. Well, come on, man. You're the best linebacker in the NCAA. Don't get it twisted. All right. linebacker in the ncaa don't get it twisted all right so my my number four and it's between the two brothers it's basically who do you want it's between the bolsa brothers and i went with

i went with nick but if you told me joey i wouldn't be upset with that i went with nick because i believe he had the better season of the two, and his team went further than Joey's team. But basically, they're like a carbon copy of each other, except that I think Nick might be a little more, like, stronger than him. I saw the way he picked up the Cowboys' right tackle. Let's see. I have some in my mind.

During the playoffs against the San... Collins or... Yeah yeah Lyle Collins he picked him up off the ground and treat him like a like a little kid yes sir oh my god he is giving Dak Prescott hell and this might tackle who's a very good right tackle when healthy can't stop him and so I thought he was gonna struggle with like elite right tackles no he he didn't he gives them trouble just like his big brother does and they both have had stellar careers but i think just based off of this year i believe joey bose i mean nick bose had the better season huh yeah well i uh i actually i need to fast forward to my number three

because ironically it was Nick Bosa. You know, it's funny how these things shake out, isn't it? And I just love, let me just say I love how like we don't know what each other's lists are going in. So we can have fun little surprises like this. But with Nick Bosa for me, you know, I like stats and stuff. He had a career high for, yes, for forced fumbles, 15 and a half sacks, 40 solo tackles, 52 combined, and 21 tackles for loss, and 32 quarterback hits. All of which, yes, all of which were career highs this is his career high in his third year and keep in mind no one really knew what he was going to be because he was coming

off i believe a torn acl yep came off that off the torn acl yeah and didn't play for like he only played like one or two games last season and now he comes out like the best form of himself that we've ever seen. And there's no reason to believe he's going to slow as we progress into next season. Yeah, he did all that off a torn ACL. And I'm happy with his production because he's more of a technician than a freak. But when we get the right, oh boy that he is a problem which is why i'd like to see his tape because he has phenomenal tape uh but my number three guy who had a bounce back year and was phenomenal for a playoff caliber defense max crosby hmm explain when i saw maxby last year, I wasn't worried about him

because I thought his rookie year was just an apparition. Because he outdid the number four overall pick, Cleo Farrell, and he had like 10.5 sacks when Cleo Farrell did not. And then the next year he had like, I want to say, five sacks. But over the next year coming – I have his stats in front of me the app the season after his rookie year he had seven seven all right so clearly a downgrade but you know so coming into this year he felt like he had to make a change so he i want to say he checked into a rehab facility and got clean he was like all right i know what i need to do and i want to get focused and i want to commit myself to the game and he did that and

it might be a little bit based on what i saw week one oh my god he was he was all over the place he gave a villain a wave of hell he hit him with a spin so bad he put him to the ground i was like can you block this guy every time i saw saw lamar jackson trying to make a play it was uh max crosby stopping it and it was like no please don't and he was the one that had the forced fumble against lamar and it was like yeah lost the game there and so when and throughout the whole season he was i believe he had the most pressures throughout any other edge rusher. And so when I look at that, I was like, he's clearly getting there.

He may not be always finishing, but he's clearly giving them pressures. The quarterback is just getting them away. Yeah. Yeah, that's a thing. You know, once you're there, you kind of got to seal the deal. He had 56 tackles. You know, that's a total, that's a career high. But he had 30 quarterback hits, but only eight sacks. You just have to start converting those pressures into sacks.

It was one of the reasons why I didn't put him in my top five. You know, I would give him an honorable mention, but, you know, I mean, like, I feel like next year if he keeps going, then, you know, we're probably going to have to. Yeah. I mean, Chandler jones is gonna be on his team team next year i think he will start to convert some yeah especially because jones is likely gonna get double teamed every play yeah and do you really want to deal with chandler jones or

max cross we have no one-on-one no yeah that afc west is going to be really scary. It's stacked to the guilds. Oh my God. All right. So who's your number two? Now my number two for a fellow player in the AFC North, you know, for all Tucker's Ravens, I'm going to put miles Garrett. Same.

He's my number two. Awesome. So let's dive into this together. Miles Garrett is a physical freak. This guy is insane. 51 total tackles and 16 sacks. He's everywhere. He stops the run. He can disrupt passing. He forces fumbles and he's one of the hardest hitters in the league. And he's impossible to block his footwork is great his technique is great bull rush swim move you name it this guy is borderline unstoppable except for one and uh so just what do you think about all miles garrett almost unstoppable to

block i've seen i've played my team has played against them twice a year i don't know how how we can't do it. We can't stop this guy. We put two guys on him. He splits the difference and gets to Lamar Jackson almost like that. Lamar has to run for his life almost every play. God help us if he lines up on the right side because, you know, filling in the way that he just couldn't block in the 90th last year

and wasn't going to block Miles Garrett because most of the league can't block him. I think the only one that can do it is, I want to say, Trent Williams because he's a freak. Oh, yeah. Trent Williams is arguably a future Hall of Famer. If he wins the ring, I think it's... Yeah, if he is. But, I mean, he's going to go there eventually.

He's one of the best left tackles ever. Yeah. He was a part of that legendary 2011 draft class too. Yeah. That was... Talk about the freaks in that one. And, see, here's the thing with miles garrett for me he has four straight seasons of double digit sacks 13 and a half 10 12 and now 16 he racks up tackles upon tackles every year forces a few funnels every year and he's getting to the

quarterback like 33 quarterback hits last season now quarterback hits for me like a really intangible stat because well technically they are counted you don't really know the impact it has on the game but it does because you're getting there and you are rattling the quarterback and like i said miles garrett's one of the hardest hitters in the league and he's just so unblockable like no matter what anyone does yeah you have to double team him every play which gives his other crime partner jadavion clowny one-on-ones so that's how you know he's a beast 16 16 sacks will tell you that and if it was any other year he would probably be our number one but unfortunately there's another guy in the same division that just had a better season than him.

Yeah. You want me to announce it or should I? You can announce it. All right. It is, like we said, from the same division, TJ Watt of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, boy. This guy. Picture everything we just said about Miles Garrett,

but amp it up to 11. This guy is insane. He tackles more. He hits just as hard. He gets to the quarterback more frequently, and he forces more fumbles. He deflects more passes, and you can drop him out in coverage

because he's got four career interceptions like this guy can quite literally do it all when last year he had 22 and a half sacks tying the all-time sack record and i don't want to hear that gobble ghoul about oh yeah but it was an expanded season he missed a game yeah so that means he still played a regular 16 games check mate watt haters and i mean tucker i know you don't like me saying this because he's also from the afc north but he's insane i mean the guy is like he's basically he's likely going to end up being better than his brother and we all remember what a beast jj watt was in his prime but tj is already there in my eyes he's a beast but if again jj watt had like three seasons of like 20 plus sacks

yeah well we're getting there now he just had it like i said yeah and look here's the thing he was in the same draft class as miles garrett but TJ Watt, you know, his first season, seven sacks, not too shabby, but then 13, 14 and a half, 15, and then 22 and a half. This guy is showing no signs of stopping. Like I said, what sets it apart for me is that you can put him anywhere. Yeah, he is a problem. All that we said about Myles Garrett equated to him and equate that TJ Watt is better in coverage than him. He was the defensive player of the year for a reason.

22 and a half sacks can tell you, oh, he can get to the quarterback, no problem. Oh my God. I'm so happy he didn't break the up and break the record on us i would have been so pissed i would have when he actually got the final sack i thought he actually did but then he was like 22 and a half i was like thank god three seconds or less don't hold the ball because you know we can't block him for any any longer than that because he'll just get to go back and break it and cost us the game but unfortunate but, he didn't do that. But I hate talking about the Steelers in a positive light. But as you said, this guy is a freak of nature.

Oh, absolutely. And, you know, Son, we were talking about how stacked the AFC West was. But look at the AFC North. See, old Justin Tucker is a Ravens fan, which means twice a year he has to deal with the aforementioned T.J. Lawton, Miles Garrett, but also Trey Hendrickson, who's no slouch in his own right from the Cincinnati Bengals. And then there's Jadavion Clowney. Oh, yeah, right.

And Clowney. And also Cam Hayward, too. And Cam. Yep, it's not easy for any of those teams. We have to face them all twice a year. So I have to see them a combined six times a year. Yeah, not a happy player. But hopefully our developmental outside linebackers will come in and be fine.

Because hopefully I don't want David Ojabo to play this year. I want him to sit out for a year. I don't think he's going to. I think you kind of drafted him kind of like when the Cowboys drafted jalen williams you know you're playing the long game with ojabo yeah you mean jalen smith oh yeah jalen smith i said jalen why did i say that i meant jalen smith sorry my brain does not want to cooperate today but my point still stands you know you're playing the long game yeah the only problem is he's a freak in his own right because apparently he's walking right now.

Yeah. Hey, but just don't rush him back. That's all you can do. Don't Andrew Luck him. Yeah. I don't want to rush him back. So hopefully we see him either November or December and hopefully he'll be fine by then because the entry that he took on his pro day,

I don't wish on anybody. Yeah. But hey, those were our top five outside linebackers. We are the FOMO Whiskey Podcast and we'll be right back. Here's Edelman

broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's in. Oh! It's in!

Sideline! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Formula World Speed Podcast. I am your wonderful host, Justin Tucker, along with my special guest and best special host, CJ Madero. Special guest?

Come on now. I know you're not a special guest. Yeah. But you are my one and only friend. Appreciate it, man. Of course. Now, it has come that time that we have our Fomorowski fan box. See that?

We put the banners up like you told us, Adam. All right. from a roski fan box see that we put the banners up like you told us adam all right so during this segment we ask you guys a question and we want to hear from you guys and our question of this week is who is the most underrated outside linebacker in the in the nfl at this moment in time and so all right then yeah i was about to say, we have Grayson Mortimer who said JPP. Is he under? Yeah, he's in Pierre Paul. I mean, you don't really hear about him, but he's solid, you know?

He is solid, but he's still a free agent market. Yeah. Wait, he's still a free agent, right, you said? Yeah, he's a free agent. Yeah, and I mean, last season, let's pull up his stats, 2021, 31 tackles, two and a half sacks, a bit of a step back, but he can certainly provide a boost for most lineups. Yeah, I'm about to say, it was a year removed from him causing havoc in the Super Bowl.

Oh, yeah, like the season prior to last, or two seasons ago, I should say, he had nine and a half sacks so you know yeah yeah so is he underrated i'd say it's more so of him having a down year and he's on the i want to say the wrong side of 30 oh yes yes he is last season was his age 32 season so yeah he's on the wrong side of 30 and they saw him only have two and a half sacks so most of the league is probably looking at that as like can he actually produce don't get me wrong i want him on my team but i don't want him taking like heavy minutes away from our young young ones that makes sense yeah cj says hassan reddick now you already know how i feel about hassan reddick. He is mad underrated. He finally got paid and he needs his props.

Anything else, please, you know, just go back, you know, cause I've already explained why he is so underrated. And yes, I do believe he is in fact top five.

I'm not. I'm top five is to me stretching it. I understand why he feels that way. He might have a top five season coming up, but I'm not sure if he's top five is to me stretching it. I understand why he feels that way. He might have a top five season coming up, but I'm not sure if he's top five in general. I swear, watch him like not play at all and then just completely prove me wrong. I don't want that. I want him to go, even though he's on the Eagles and I do not care for them.

We don't wish injury on anybody. No, I wasn't. But still, though, we wish him the best of luck. Stephen Parker said Trey Hendrickson. No. Mr. AFC North, you want to comment on that? I don't know. How is he underrated?

He just so happens to be in the same division as Myles Garrett and TJ Watt. I don't think he's underrated. I think he's rated just fine. He's the pick. And he has third. I mean, he was underrated, but I really don't think he is anymore. I mean, he's not the tackling machine you'd like him to be, but he's mostly a pure pass rusher.

But I wouldn't call him underrated. He certainly was when he signed that contract, and everyone said it was an overpay, but he proved them wrong. So I really don't view him as underrated, really. I don't think he's overrated at this moment in time. I think he's rated just fine. Yeah, I agree. I don't understand where you're trying to rate him higher than where he is

because at best you're saying he's the third best because I don't think anybody would take him over Miles Garrett or TJ Watt. So I think it's just going to be fun. Tyson Tate, a regular on the show, said, Demio Hunter. Well, old Justin Tucker and I were talking about this before the show. And Justin, would you like to present your case? I don't think he's underrated.

I think he might be a little overrated if you think he's underrated because he hasn't played. I think that's the only reason you're saying that. If he's played and can stay healthy, then I think you would rate him higher than he would be, but the problem is his health. I don't think he's underrated. I haven't heard many people talk about him ever.

Well, not really ever, but especially now he's gotten hurt. He's kind of fallen off the map. A lot of people call him top five. I don't think that. But then again, I don't think many people, you know, truly think that. So I would say he's becoming underrated because of his injuries. But if he manages to play at least 15 games next season, he'll be right back in the conversation.

Don't you worry. Yeah, I think he'll be right back in the conversation don't you worry yeah i think he'll be right back in that conversation he's i think he was like the fastest outside linebacker to 50 sacks ever so yes yes he was so if he can just stay healthy he'll be just fine yeah tyson tate again i'm sensing the theme here. DJ Wanham from Minnesota. I believe it's Wanham. Yeah, Wanham. Is he saying all of Minnesota's defensive line is underrated? It's possible.

But DJ Wanham, he's not really known to many people i mean to be fair i had to look him up but after a really really really quiet 2020 and uh i believe want him i don't know if he was drafted or not i don't oh i think i don't i think he might have been undrafted free agent but don't quote me on that i'm sorry i don't really know anything but but looking at his stats from last season 47 tackles and eight sacks that is not bad for a guy you don't know about and uh and he's been allowed to flourish you know without to neil hunter because you know injuries and stuff but the way i see it is that he can be very dangerous for the vikings and he could definitely help take some of

that pressure off of hunter now that some scouts know what he can do yeah well hopefully he deniel hunter doesn't have to do all the work and d can help him on that. Maybe he was underrated. I'll take your word for it since I haven't seen much of DJ Warnham. Ian Melhern says Brian Burns. I agree with this one. I think Brian Burns is really underrated.

I'm right there with you. I have a friend also from our, from our college, you know, who, who says, who's a huge Brian Burns fan. And why shouldn't you be? He said over, he's at at least 50 tackles the past two seasons, but past two seasons, nine sacks, four passes deflected the last two seasons, six career force fumbles in three years and 18 quarterback hits last season and i feel like if he was not on the carolina panthers a lot of people would know more about him because i believe brian burns was a first round pick right yeah brian burns yeah and

he's playing like one and it doesn't seem like he gets that much recognition which has to change but again unless his team becomes more successful i don't seem like he gets that much recognition which has to change but again unless his team becomes more successful i don't think they'll give him the recognition he deserves but unfortunately that is the reality of the nfl yeah but he's very good for the for the carolina panthers and i gotta say that last year's carolina panthers uh front, very good. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That front seven was very good. But enough about me fanboying over the Carolina Panthers. Nick Norman, friend of the show, says, easily Robert Quinn, the quietest 18 and a half sack season I've ever seen. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Robert Quinn, he's a strange one for for me because if you look at his career stats the first four years of his career he bursts onto the scene then he kind of goes quiet few blips here and there and then his first year in chicago after he signed that deal he wasn't doing too well and then boom 49 tackles 18 and a half sacks, and four forced fumbles. I don't know how he did it, but he did.

And keep in mind, he's part of the 100 sack club, for those of you keeping track at home. Yeah, he has 101 career sacks. That guy, I don't know. He's not a guy you hear about a lot but he keep but he's he it's i don't know how to you know how to put it into words it's like he's so sporadic in producing that's probably why a lot of people don't know he literally had 18 and a half sacks last season probably why he wasn't in our top five because he's so random when you know when he decides to be good or average. Yeah.

He's very good. But unfortunately, he just had a season, a very good season, that happened to be with the Chicago Bears. If he was with the Dallas Cowboys, I think it would be Harvard on more. Because, you know, it's the Cowboys. Yeah, that's what they do. Unfortunately, he was in Chicago where they didn't have much success and no one heard about him much.

And they might think it's just, oh, it's because he's next to Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack was injured for some of the season. So I can't recall how many games, but it's not like Khalil Mack was always there. So you can't see most of those teams. And even still, you say it's just because of Khalil Mack. So 18 and a half sacks because of Khalil Mack. Really? Is this the game we're going to play?

I would disagree with that. That just shows you how good Robert Quinn is when healthy. Exactly. But again, I do believe he's underrated now. I don't think he's always been, but I think he is now. Yeah. I didn't think he had 18 and a half stats until I looked it up one time, and I was like, he had 18 and a half stats, and no one's talking about it.

Jack Hartman says Clowney doesn't get as many pass rush stats, but a menace in the run game. Yeah, yeah. And another friend in the AFC north that tucker loves so so much but i hate going up against them oh sorry continue what you don't get in pass rushing gives you and run stopping ability he just sets the edge and there's nothing you can can do. Yeah, like I said, 24 solo tackles, 37 combined last year, while being shuffled and out of the lineup, and nine sacks.

So he's not a total slouch in the passing – I mean the pass rush game. But, yeah, he's certainly underrated. He's not really the number one pick that we all thought he would be, but he has certainly found his niche in this league, at least according to me. And I think he re-upped with Cleveland, no? Yeah, he's re-upped with them, too. Yeah, so yeah, I expect him to be just as good, honestly. Yeah, he said his main reason for coming back was because he heard Deshaun Watson was going to be there.

We're not touching that. Yeah, so I'm not sure if he had a problem with Baker or he's just that excited for Deshaun Watson to be his quarterback. Man, enough about that. Daryl Howell says Carl Lawson lost a year due to injury but can be sneaky good for the Jets. Well, it's the Jets, so. Yeah, yeah, you know, you hear about how the Jets could be really good. But yeah, he's right.

You know, he didn't play at all in 2021. But I don't know. I feel like a lot of people think Carl Lawson is a lot better than he actually is. This is no knock on him, but I feel like he's a bit overhyped. He is. His career high in tackles is 36, and his career high in sacks is 8.5. And for the amount of money they gave him,

just for him to miss one year, he better come out and be a pro bowler. Because I don't think he's ever made the Pro Bowl, never been All-Pro, so he better pan out. I think it's kind of like a do-or-die for him. But based on everything I said, you could call him underrated. Yeah, and hopefully that front seven can get healthy because they just added, I want to say, Jermaine Johnson to that.

Yes, yes, they did. And so one could hope that along with the resurgence of Carl Lawson back into the lineup, that front seven, along with the resurgence of Carl Lawson back into the lineup, that front seven, along with CJ Mosley and a couple others, will be menacingly, especially when you have somebody like Quentin Williams in your front seven. Yes. Yeah. You hit the nail right on the head there.

But, yeah, I wasn't hating on Carl Lawson. I'm just stating the facts. No, you would never, even though you're a Patriots fan. I mean, I like Carl Lawson. I don't have an issue with him. Honestly, I don't really have that big of an issue with the Jets ever since Rex Ryan left. And actually, that's not true.

I didn't like Adam Gase, but that's neither here nor there. Yeah, but you probably didn't like Adam Gase as a coach, not because you hated playing against him. No, I just – no, I never liked Adam Gase. Even as an offensive coordinator, I never thought he was overrated. Because he got a recommendation from Peyton Manning. Yes, exactly. But that's neither here nor there.

But, yeah, Carl Lawson, this is definitely a put-up or shut-up year. But the potential is there. But until then, yes, I would argue that he is, in fact, underrated. Yeah, I'll give him that. I'll give him that for right now because he did lose a year to injury. So we'll see. But that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us.

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