The Fumblerooski Podcast - Now What? -Ep 425 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

On today’s episode, a clean up on the Super Bowl, and a preview of the upcoming NFL Offseason. Who are the biggest trade targets? A look at the teams with the most cap and the teams with the least c...ap and where they could go, are the Chiefs in deep rebuilding waters? How active can the Raiders and the Titans get? What could the Jets do considering their draft position? Where could the top free agents go, and who’s deserving of an extension? Chris Costich, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of the Fulmourski podcast, we get into our off-season preview. Top free agents to look out for and how the top five in the draft could shake up along with top teams in salary caps. See what the big moves are, see what the big trade destinations could be. This is the Fulmariski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fulm-Morowski podcast by Power 8018 Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. We got CJ and we got tuck in the stew today. Well, CJ, you weren't here on Tuesday's episode. So I want to give you up. I was in Delaware for the Super Bowl and I was driving up or driving, where I wasn't driving, but, you know, I was going back. And by the time you were recording,
Starting point is 00:01:02 I was in, like, in that hellscape called Connecticut. That's all right. I'll give you an opportunity to give your thoughts on the Super Bowl, but nothing past Monday. I want to get to that in this afterwards. Nothing ever happens. I mean, I predicted it. Of course, I'm getting crap for predicting it.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I'm not talking about you guys. I'm not talking about, like, Pat's fans I know in general were giving me grief for predicting a Seahawks win. You know, my friends who listen to the show are saying it, and I'm just like, well, I'll shut up. I mean, you know, it is what it is. It sucks, but that's just how it is. I am a little concerned for Drake May.
Starting point is 00:01:42 And look, it's all about confidence, you know. His confidence, like, he was seeing ghosts. He got rattled. Like, that defense scared him. And, like, you see him just sitting in the pocket, like a deer in headlights getting happy feet. And you know the stat, like, about how corebacks to lose their Super Bowl debut, like, never win one, except for, like,
Starting point is 00:02:03 I think it's like John Elway, Jalen Hertz, maybe there's one more. So that's concerning. They have a fair amount of cast bases off-season, so as a fan, like maybe they do something. I prefer they do. Please don't do the Belichick. Or please don't go to the Bill Belichick School of doing nothing. The Seahawks, I was looking at their free agents, and there's like a lot of like really important people like, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:29 Rieke Wolling, Kenneth Walker, Rashid, that they're going to have to lock up. And they have a lot of cap space to do it. So the only red flag is Kubiak leaving, you know. I think JSN is going to be fine. But a small part of me does worry for Donald because if Donald struggles out of the gate next year, then I can already hear,
Starting point is 00:02:50 uh, Kubiak merchant, even though I think he wouldn't deserve that title, unless he like really falls off, which I don't think he will. I just, so there's that. But yeah, you know, congratsless the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You know, they, they, I think they were just the more talented team. That's really what it came down to, uh, uh, that,
Starting point is 00:03:08 you know, defense saved them. Also, low key, I feel like their kicker should have gotten MVP. That would have been funny, but I digress. We were saying,
Starting point is 00:03:17 uh, he was second in Super Bowl MVP voting by a time. He should have gotten it. It would have been funny. Although, although, all okay, canine's a beast.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Kenyne's a beast. Yeah. Kenneth Walker, I think, was like plus 200 to win Super Bowl MVP, and Jason Myers was like plus 600 in second. The fact that that was like the closest one to Kenneth Walker, kind of says a lot about how that game went. Oh, well, maybe it's just because I'm a Pat's fan, but there's also like a legitimate case that Gonzo was the best player on the field.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Oh, yeah. That is the one thing I can say about that Pat's team. He put JSN in a box. I don't think I have ever seen Jackson Smith in Jigba get strapped up like that for an entire game. You know? Yeah. Do that what you will. Yeah, I think like if you were to look at that game in general, Kenneth Walker and Christian Gonzalez both deserved to get extensions.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Those were the two guys. Those were like the two notable guys that I was like, give him an extension and give him an extension. Yeah, and I will tell you, though, this for me definitely puts Gonzo, like, if anyone, I'm sorry, I definitely think at this point he's better than Witherspoon, ironically, on the Seahawks. You know, we compare that draft class a lot, and this definitely put him in, like, slammed on top three corner in the league. Yeah, you're going to agree with that. Tuck, would you agree top three? You're muted, ma'am. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:04:51 What are we doing here? Donzo top three. I could see the argument based upon his Super Bowl play. It's definitely an argument. I see an argument for J.C. Horn. I see an argument for a couple of guys, but I'm not going to argue it now. I think he is a top three corner right now. After what he just displayed in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:05:07 When you needed him most, he delivered. Yeah. Of course, the O line didn't. I don't know to say they're here nor there. Yeah, and obviously, when you look at the statistics that Drake may had, this playoffs it was they weren't pretty and you look at the sack total and it's no wonder why i mean that yeah had such shit did he tie or break the unfortunate and i'll use term loosely record of joe burrow getting sack the most in a single post run he did not out it's six isn't it
Starting point is 00:05:38 uh it would have tied for seven but they got six no i just meant like total like in a single run like how many because i saw that graphic on uh I think it was during the Super Bowl, so I don't know. Either way, then news came out that they basically had to shoot up Drake May's shoulder before the game. So it makes you wonder if his shoulder was worse off than we probably thought. But I'm not really going to blame Drake May's shoulder for how that game. You really can't. And like, yeah, when he actually had like an extra second to get rid of the ball,
Starting point is 00:06:16 there was a couple really bad misses, but like I said, you can't fault for that. Wait, wait, was that actually like confirmed that they had to shoot up his shoulder? I think so. Because looking at how he played and now knowing that, like, low key, you can make an argument that if it were like the regular season, he might have, like missed a game or something if it's that bad. Yeah. About it. But like I said, I'm not blaming it on his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:06:41 No, you can't. If anything, it was the O line, but, you know. And then what? I would say speaking of injuries. Oh, yeah. Will Campbell, yeah. Basically talking about him tearing his ligament in his knee, which we had already known about the MCL,
Starting point is 00:07:01 which is why he missed most of the back half of the season. But obviously it affected him. It affected him. You know, obviously a rookie coming back from what probably could have been season ending MCL, tear, whatever. Probably should have been. Yeah, and it's a rookie coming back into a high-stress situation for four straight games. Oh, by the way.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Oh, sorry. Very good. I just wanted to say the reason I mentioned, you know, speaking of injuries and with Will Campbell, did you see the SACs regular season versus postseason when he came back from his injury? I did not. So I just, I need you to hear this. Ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Will Campbell allowed only five sacks the entire regular season when he was healthy. He allowed four during the playoffs. He had 26 pressures total in the regular season when he was healthy. 19 in the playoffs in those four games. His past plot grade for pro football focus, which I know, like I say all the time, we like to rip on them, but they're the really only accurate way to judge an O-Lyman was a 76.1, which is like really good to above average. And then it dropped to a 34.7 in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And the allowed pressure rate went from a 5.8 to a 12.3. It is very clear that this probably should have been a season-ending injury. Yeah. Yep. It's unfortunate. We threw it. Yep. And Adam was making the point that that they should bring in somebody else and make it a competition or just move Will Campbell to guard, which evidently funny enough the next day Mike Frable comes down. He's like, nope, he's our left tackle. We're sticking with him. I mean, I don't hate the idea of competition. I know their backup, Vadarian Lowe's a free agent. And I never thought I'd say this.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But with the new OL coach being Doug Marone, the Darien Lowe has been passable. So definitely keep Morrill. round as a depth piece. But, but what would you? Yeah, I know. Laugh it up, Tuck. No, no, because Adam said the same thing on Tuesday. And he's right. Like, Vedarian Lowe, when you gave him a good offensive line coach and Doug Morone,
Starting point is 00:09:26 he's like, he's not a world beater, but he at least belongs on an NFL team. The thing what Will Campbell is, I don't know, even like against Max Crosby and Miles Garrett, he was getting ragdolled, but it's also Max Crosby and Miles Garrett. So I don't know. There was a very clear drop-off after he got hurt, and it probably should have been the end of this season. The only thing that concerns me is I know it doesn't mean anything, but just walk with me, will you?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Is the optics. If you spend a top five pick on a guard, that's a really, really bad look, except for that one time when the Colts drafted Quentin Nelson, who at the time, you know, we were like, okay, that could be like a future Hall of Famer right there, you know? So do with that what you will.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah. I think the only real other thing I wanted to point out to, like mention Seahawks and how amazing their roster is, but like they fucking watched film. I don't know if you guys saw the NFL films clip, and it was, uh, fuck, what's his face? Whoever picked Drake May off, uh, it's the first. Julian Love.
Starting point is 00:10:33 What? Yeah, Julia Love. It was, uh, right before that, like, drive before that, you almost picked him off on like, basically the same exact play that would later get him an interception. And he's on the sideline. He's like literally this is what he's doing. And like this is what he's going to do in the next one's mine.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And what he explained was how Drake May basically already knew like where he wanted to go with the football because of what he's seeing pre-snap. And once he hits the last step of that drop, he kind of pauses a second before, uh, before making his decision to throw the ball. He's just making sure that he's open before actually throwing the ball. And then after that, it's coming out. Yeah, that's just some smart field reading right there, I reckon. Yeah. Especially at that point.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah. Especially at that point of the game when you're getting pressured all day and that internal clock just speeds up on you, which isn't a bad thing if it's, you know, you're going quick passing. but at that point of the game, when you need to get the ball down the field, it's, you're prone to throw the ball around a little bit. I guess the last thing, the fun thing, I guess, is Stefan Diggs and Cardi B breaking up.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I wouldn't say that's fun. No. Is that like the truth? I know they unfollowed each other, but it has actually like, I guess the rumor is that Stefan Diggs invited another baby mama to get front row seats at the Super Bowl, and Cardi B was pissed about it. Jesus. That's the story.
Starting point is 00:12:14 We don't play like that. Stefan. I know he's a great locker room guy, you know, for New England. But like, between like the constant baggage that he's always in the news, he's a bit of a character, and the, you know, the whole thing with his off-season troubles or off-field troubles, and the fact that I believe his contract is an out-out. after one season. It does. Like, I wouldn't be shocked if New England moves on to him, what moves on from him.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And honestly, I wouldn't, I honestly don't want that because, like, you can't take away Drake May's wide receiver one. This is a team that routinely cheaps out at wide receiver one. It's like, you'll have a bunch of twos and you'll like it because we expect everyone to be Tom Brady. Like, unless you are going to trade for AJ Brown or something like that, then you've got to keep them.
Starting point is 00:13:11 because, you know, these good morals and image that they don't win football games. Yeah, but at the end of the day, in terms of digs, like this season, yeah, he cracked, I made this point on Tuesday. Like, yeah, he cracked a thousand yards, but, like, kind of barely cracked a thousand. And the games, like, he showed up for the game against Buffalo and he showed up against in the game against Baltimore. And really, like, and those two games were two of the best games that the past. that's played all season. But outside of that, he didn't put up that many great performances.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And Bill's fans have seen this year, saw this year in and year out. In the playoffs, Diggs is a no show, no show this playoff run. So at the same time, I guess the thing is, what's the solution?
Starting point is 00:14:01 The thing is, when you move on from players, like, you need to have an idea of where you're going to go. Like, you need a clear cut replacement in mind. And I,
Starting point is 00:14:11 I don't trust New England. Look, I love Rabel, but it gets to a point where it's less about the current regime, more about New England historically, even when they had Bill, even before Bill. And even before crap, they were never a team that valued the elite game-breaking wide receiver one. And honest to God, I don't trust them to do that because New England historically, especially in recent vintage, has been always the bridesmaid, never the bride. When the big receiver sweepstakes for someone, they're always runner up. Like they keep swinging and missing. Their trades keep getting rejected. In many cases, the receivers just say, I don't want to be there. So, but you almost kind of have to stick with digs. I mean, you could call up the sunk cost fallacy if you wanted. But I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Like, I don't think, like, and I don't trust them to, even with Rable, I don't trust them to draft one either. Like, hell, they could somehow go back. of time and grab Jerry Rice and he'd still probably struggle, you know? So, yeah, I don't know, I don't want to rock the bow, is all I'm saying. The other thing you got to think, too, is like, do you have enough faith to have Booty Pop and all the other and Kyle to develop into that? Like, can Booty develop into wide receiver one? Can Pop develop into the number two slot threat?
Starting point is 00:15:36 Can Kyle Williams develop into a low end, two, high end three? deep threat. Like, that's kind of what you're banking on if you do get rid of digs. But at the same time, like I said, like, if you have digs, like, yeah, he's going to be there for a couple of games. But outside that, like, he's just another body that you can throw it up to and hope to come down with. You guys still have a wild card.
Starting point is 00:16:02 FDMchism. Yeah. He's actually made active. Yeah. Also, I guess there's Mack Hollins too. He's a good fit. But he's old. Mac Collins is old too.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I always forget that, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Like they need the fact that this has been the problem that has been plaguing New England since like 2018. You know, they won their most recent Super Bowl against the Rams that they have receivers that on a good day or like a high end two. Maybe Jules you could argue is a low-in-one one. I do, I would do respect Jules like that. He's nice. He was nice, but that he was.
Starting point is 00:16:41 But when you have that, right? And you do not ever splurge on like a true number one. And you continually just with either in the draft or trying to acquire one be a trade or free agency, it gets to a point where it's just like you can't rock. I'm not saying they need to be gun shy, but I think they know that they're starting to be a narrative about it. And I don't, I don't trust them to get one. And like I said, like I guess my thing for a fan is like, what's it going to take? You know, like this has been a problem for years. And the receivers, none of them could get any separation in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I mean, Collinsworth even said the defense backs for Seattle and I quote were just crushing them. They just got out physical. They were getting bumped off their routes. And look, yes, Pat's fans. I know Seattle committed a lot of blatant P.I. I know they were really getting grabby the whole game, but you can't rely on the officials to bail you out there, even if they were grabbing.
Starting point is 00:17:46 But still, that doesn't explain why they got out physicaled either. So, like, at this point, like, you have to make a real, genuine, concerted, deliberate effort to acquire what we call a game-breaking wide receiver one. Like a Higgin, not a Higgins, like a Chase, a Jefferson. I'm not saying trade for them, like develop your own or, like, or do something because it's getting to be a problem. They could. They could just trade for Alex Pierce, the cold swipe receiver.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He's got to be a creative. Adam was thinking of a take on a Tuesday. Yeah, that's what Adam wants, but I'm not sure you guys. I'm not sure. I like Pierce, and I get where he's coming from, and I agree. I just don't know if he's like a high end number one. Do you guys have a choice? But that's the other thing is that, like, he has the potential for it,
Starting point is 00:18:37 and we get him on the low. I'm just regurgitating Adam's argument, but. How are you appearing in the low? Like, I don't understand that. He's, if anything, he's going to get overpaid on the market because this receiver free agent class isn't great. Good point. Good point.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But. I'm trying to figure it out. Maybe I'm not saying this will happen. But imagine you got straighted for Justin Jefferson. I would cry happy tears, but it's not going to happen. I'm not saying it's going to have. but I don't see Minnesota doing anything, and I think sooner or later he'll just be annoyed by the lacking of, like,
Starting point is 00:19:14 quarterback play. So I think it'll last for a trade in like a year or two if this keeps up. I actually, I think I said that on the show. I don't know if you were there, but I said, like, I know there are whispers that Jefferson's starting to get upset, but I could see, like, maybe give it another year, and he might actually try to demand a trade. Maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:34 That's what, uh, J.J. McCarty figures his shit out. That's what the Rocking Eagles guys were saying, too, whereas, like, they were saying, like, they wouldn't be surprised if Jeddiz was on the move or if you ask for one. And now I think about with Alex Pierce, there's a real shot he just gets tagged, too, you know? Yeah. Well, that's the other thing is, like, you tag them, which means that, like, they tag them and then Pat's try to trade for him. then you already have them for a year on the average salary and then extend them afterwards. You already know my stance on this, Chris.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah. Nothing ever happens. No, no, no, no, no, no, not that. I just met about tag and trades. I've said it before. Unless you have like a predetermined deal worked out, you never do a tag and trade. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I think we, oh, that's right. I forgot to ask CJ about his thoughts on bad money. I don't have any. I just, I said it before, I'll say it again. I don't care. And it's not even because of him. And I know some stupid randos gonna bitch at me online. And be like, oh my God, it's this, you're this, you're that, you're whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I just don't really watch the halftime show at all, regardless of the year. I think I've only ever watched and paid attention to two in my entire, however long I've been alive. years on this earth you know like i just i don't i don't really ever watch the half time show so i don't know nothing really changed i mean maybe it was good maybe it wasn't i don't i just i never watched the halftime show i mean good good for him i'm sure a lot of performers have a dream to artists have a dream to be to do the halftime show so good for him man yeah uh we touched on this on Tuesday as well. And we basically the main talking point was, you know, we're not there to watch the halftime show. We're there to watch football. So we don't, we also don't really care either.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Super Bowl commercials. We were saying that they suck now outside of the Budweiser commercial. And the Budweiser commercial, that was cool. The Peyton Manning, Shane Gillis, Beer commercial made me chuckle a bit. the one with Kee and Michael Kee for insurance living on a prayer. I liked that. I thought that was funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 There's another one. That's a farm commercial. They fucking blew a bag on that. Yeah, but so I liked it. I thought it was funny. I actually can't really remember a lot of them now that I think about it.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I mean, they weren't bad. Like last year, the commercials were like offensively bad. This year they were forgettable, which I guess is a lot of, a step in the right direction. But there was
Starting point is 00:22:29 an ad for nerds gummy clusters that sticks out in my head because, you know, he got all the little mascots running around, you know, all CGIed and stuff, around this older dude who, I can't say it on the show,
Starting point is 00:22:45 but rewatch that commercial and tell me he doesn't look like a certain somebody. I mean, I think... We're not hampered down by anything, so I think we could say it was C.J. Thanks. He looked like Epstein. Like, honest to God, when I saw that commercial,
Starting point is 00:23:01 I was on my phone. I was texting some of my friends. And out of the quarter of my, I had to do a double take. I was like, wait, is that? No, I can't be. Then I look closely. It's like, oh, okay. And you have the thing is, I'm not the only one. I have seen people online saying that when they first saw, they thought it was Epstein on that nerds gummy clusters commercial.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And every time I rewatch it, I just, because I, you know, I found it on YouTube. And I'm like, okay, am I crazy? It's like, no. So I sent to some of my friends, they've never been on the show. So the names would mean nothing to you, listeners. Their names are Dylan and Tom. And I said, okay, fellas, I need a verdict here.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And they agreed, so I don't know. And the memes have been too. I think NFL memes IG might have done something about it or another NFL meme page said something. So it's not me. It's not me. Yeah. All in all, I thought there was too much AI. But all right, let's get into off-season preview.
Starting point is 00:23:53 We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we'll get into that. Cap, space, salary, free agents, you name it. Draft picks. This is the Full Marooski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fuller Ruski podcast. Let's get into the off-season preview. What do you guys want to touch on first? Anything for that matter. Anything?
Starting point is 00:24:34 All right. Let's look at cap space, free agency. Before we get into top free agents to probably look out for, top five in the draft, right? Or top five in the draft. Top five in terms of cap space right now, the Titans, the Raiders, the Jets, the Chargers, and the Seahawks. And that's right.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Top three in that. cap space also have three of the top five picks in the draft. Tennessee and Vegas getting hooked up with new head coaches, Vegas getting Clint Kubiak and Tennessee getting Robert Salah. And both those guys have the top two most cap space in the league to work with. So that should be interesting to see how that plays out. And outside of the rumors of Max Crosby wanting to play for the Patriots and Mike Vrable and potential trade, which could get another large contract off the books to free up even more space.
Starting point is 00:25:48 These two teams, they can probably have some fun this offseason. They could probably have some fun. But I guess that's the other thing is, are you willing to go play for Vegas and Tennessee? How attractive is Vegas and Tennessee? I think Tennessee is more better looking than the Raiders right now. I know the Raiders are going to get their franchise quarterback, but I think the line and since they already had their franchise quarterback and they have a few quality pieces, I think it's just better for them all around.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I know they still have what a top. I'm not, where are the Tennessee Titans? But let's just say for the sake of argument, top 10 in the draft. Yeah, they are out of ten of the draft. I promise you. I think they're pick four. Yeah, so they still have a good draft pick. They still have Capsways.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And I think just overall the team might be a bit better. I think they're going to focus heavily on the offensive line and try to give Cam Ward some weapons to work with, especially in the running game because, dear Lord, I think the defense obviously needs some work, but they still have Jeffrey Simmons, so at least they have something to start with. Oh, no, I just think it's more attractive,
Starting point is 00:27:05 especially when I saw the Raiders play last year, and we were all disgust by the way they were playing. I know we were disappointed in the way they played against Dallas during Monday night. We were upset at the way they played against the Broncos. What, Thursday night? Yes, 10 seconds. It's two bad games all around that they cl-
Starting point is 00:27:23 could have won, but just weren't able to convert. And it's like, oh, no, I think the Raiders, I think they could make a few splashes here and there this offseason, but in order for them to trade Max Crosby, I think they would have to get another player in return, including two first-round picks. So I think they're trying to fix their offensive line, which has been a major problem,
Starting point is 00:27:48 especially since they can't get anything going with Ashton Gentie. So, yeah, I think Tennessee is more good and is better looking as a destination than Las Vegas. But it's still Las Vegas. So big market. Yeah. CJ, got any thoughts on that? Any response? Well, as far as overall cap space goes, I assume we're doing like we did last year, where we go cap space, then pre-agent players in the draft.
Starting point is 00:28:21 The Titans and the Raiders, the one thing to be concerned about, and all these numbers are coming from overthecap.com, is there is this very real phenomenon for bad teams and for agency. You guys have heard of it. It's called the suck tax. And if you think they're not going to have to pay an ungodly level suck tax, you are wrong. I don't care if their coaches are Robert Sala and Clint Kubiak.
Starting point is 00:28:51 The suck tax is very real, and it's coming for them. But they have enough money to the point where it won't matter. The Titans, once again, per over the cap, have $104.7 million, and the Raiders have 91.5 mil. So I can't, you know, so I can't be super doom and gloom. But what's interesting are the other teams in the top 10 when it comes to cap space. A lot of them are playoff team. The LA Chargers have 83.5 million. The reigning champ Seattle Seahawks have 72.2 million.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Well, to be fair, they have a lot of reagents, so they're going to need it. Yeah, they have a lot of guys they need to resign or think about resigning, starting with Kenneth Walker. Steelers have 44.9 mil, and the Patriots have 41.5. So you have a lot of good teams that do have a fair amount of money that they could use to improve. So, hey, do that what you will, man. That, I definitely think that's going to be something to look out for. And on the other end of the spectrum, I have to bring this up. It's of the utmost importance.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You know who has the least amount? Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Once again, per over the cap, negative 54.9 million. And I don't know if you've seen who they have for free agents, where they've got guys like Travis Kelsey, Isaiah Pacheco, and like a few pieces on defense. I look at this and I'm like, well, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:30:27 And like half their team is going to be headed for the open market. So I don't know. And I feel like, like, and I know the chiefs are saying, oh, confident, we're confident. Kelsey's going to be back. If you think Travis Kelsey is going to take a hometown discount, you are wrong. You are very wrong, in fact.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So. I wouldn't even. CJ, I wouldn't even say a hometown discount. Like, let's not even think about that. With, when you are this deep in the negatives and cap space, you essentially had to think you're going to have to blow it all up, especially with the season you just had. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:31:04 maybe it turns around, but Mahomes might even be ready for week one. He'll be ready for week one. It was a two ligaments, man. Come on. If it was just an ACL, I'd say maybe, but it's like an ACL and MCL. as well. Furthermore, other teams in the red, the Minnesota Vikings at negative 40.1 million,
Starting point is 00:31:24 and everyone's favorite, the Dallas Cowboys at 29.1 million in the red. So the Cowboys are a team that need to improve. Will they? The Vikings, I think, are a team that's good already. They just need J.J. McCarthy to figure everything out. Cowboys are interesting. Wanted to finish up the Kelsey point real quick. Never mind, the hometown discount. At Kelsey's age, I don't think he's going to want to stick around for a rebuild, because at that point, he has Max two years left. And, yeah. But the Cowboys, it's interesting because, like, they've already, it sounds like they've already committed to trying to re-sign George Pickens already.
Starting point is 00:32:03 It was a free agent this year. I don't know. Like, it sounds like it, but at the same time, they sounded committing to getting Michael Parsons. And you saw how that went. So they'll say that's Brian. Yeah, they'll say they're trying, but are they actually trying or are they just stalling or are they trying to trade them? It's like...
Starting point is 00:32:25 Depends on what Jerry Jones feels that day, honestly. Have his meds kicked in yet? I feel like that's the big question. Does he really want to reset the market again and make him the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL? That's what you got to ask yourself. I can't do that. Look, he had an insane, they had a monster year, but not George Pickens. I can't see a world where he's wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:32:48 Numero Uno, in the big NFL. And right now we need to fix their cap space before they can even offer it because they're in the negative anyhow. Oh, yeah, negative 29.1, once again, pro over the cap. So other teams, in case you were wondering, that are in the negatives, the Packers and the Texans are both negative 1 million that's easy to get out of.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Negative 5, the Bears. So that's something, you know, the Bears are an up-and-coming team. They don't exactly have a lot of mobility. So we'll see. The bills are at negative 7, 7.5, and that's iffy, because they're another team needs to improve. The Saints, they're in Capel, to the surprise of literally nobody who watches football. But they are only negative 6 million. So they're getting there.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Mickey Loomis is slowly unscrewing everything. The Detroit Lions, negative 8, that's concerning because they're another team that has to change. And here's another team that we view as an up-and-comer for contenders, right? The Jaguars, they're negative 11. So I'm not anticipating any splashes. And this is funny. The Miami Dolphins are at negative 16 million. And it's probably going to be worse once they offload to a turn to ball over.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Who's going to take them, though? Who knows? Oh, and allegedly Miami has told prospective teams that they would be willing to eat, like, part of his deal as well to make a trade work. I was about to say there's no way out of Tua without eating some sort of cash. And what do you do with Tyree Kill as well? Yeah, that's true. They might actually, there was a rumor. I'll try to find it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I saw it on JPA football that he might not even play next year, Tyree Hill, because you got to remember, it's not like it's as simple as he tore something. His knee exploded. Yeah. For lack of a better term. Also, Kevin Petullo, apparently the Miami passing game coordinator, so it's not like Miami was going to do anything anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah. Oh, by the way, sorry, I found the report. Tom Pellisero says it remains unclear if Tyreek Hill will be healthy enough to even play next season. And also, how do you like that? Imagine being a team that just doesn't have playoff aspirations and you know you're not going to be good, but you're also in Capel so you can't change.
Starting point is 00:35:09 That's got to be the worst feeling. Oh, so low-key. I'm looking at Tarry Kill's stats. If he never plays another down again, he might have a Hall of Fame case. He probably will. Media is going to make a weight due to his off-the-field nonsense, though. Well, it helps that he has a ring, and he has... Over 11,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:35:28 One or two offense player of the year awards? I think he has one to be sure. Yeah, I know. Oh, nope, he finished second. He finished second. Hold on. I have his accolades right in front of me. he's got a he's a five time first no OPEOI is granted but he's a Super Bowl champ he's a five time first team all pro and an eight time pro bowler and he has led the league in receiving yards at least once and he's part of the 2010's all decade team and in 2016 he was part of the all rookie team so you know I just remember the reason why he doesn't have an offense player the year award is because of Cooper Cup yes that's coming back to me now
Starting point is 00:36:14 Only, no, because in 23, he had a better season. Who do you lose to in that year then? That's what I'm trying to. 23? It wasn't Lamar, so wasn't McCaffrey? Yeah, it had to have been McCaffrey because, no, fuck. Now we look like idiots. It is McCaffrey, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Okay. Yeah, because that was the year that you scored like a touchdown at every single game. for like 13 straight weeks or something like that. Yeah, I was about to say, but he did finish number one in the top 100 players voted on by the NFL players. It's an accomplishment within itself to be voted as number one by your peers.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah. Oh, no, he is a Hall of Famer, but as far as like Miami's situation, it doesn't look all that good. Yeah. Might actually be over for them, honest to God. Yeah, I know. Hold on let me see something.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Where does Miami pick in the draft? Mid, tier, because you got to remember, they beat up on injured teams halfway through the year. And I think they're picked number 11. They are. Yeah, they really should have been like top five, like borderline top five team in the draft and they end up just like getting on a run
Starting point is 00:37:34 after they bench two up. Yeah. Well, you know, greasy Mike McDaniel tried to play hero and look where that ended up. Yeah. I don't know, man. they're trying to tell me they're going to draft a quarterback this year, which, again, which be ridiculous because...
Starting point is 00:37:50 I feel like you got to the leaders. You got to see where you're at with Quinn Ewers. That's, I feel like that's where you got to go right now. If you can't beat out Tua, then that's the issue within itself. But he played better than Tua, so... I don't know. Miami's screwed regardless that much we can agree. on.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Exactly. Yeah. Sorry. Oh, what you? Oh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:23 um, I wanted to get to some of the top agents, uh, that are available for this off season. Uh, Trey Hendrickson,
Starting point is 00:38:32 uh, probably the most notable, just because of everything that's happened between him and the Bengals, the last, what, two, three years.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Um, feels like it's been since the Super Bowl run that, uh, This story has been a thing. But he's currently up right now, and his current market value is at 25.5. CJ's been using over the cap. I'm on spot track right now. I'm a spot track guy.
Starting point is 00:38:59 That's one of that. Yeah. Two to one. Get fucked, buddy. I can't even say my response because I'll get thrown off the show. It's all right. I'm like, all right. I was, I was going to be in Wixon will go.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You all know where he's going to go. I'll tell you he's going to get tagged. Have you seen that? Oh, oh, no, no, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, listen, listen, listen. There are rumors. So, first of all, let's backtrack. You know what happened last year, right? There was that holdout, and they said, if we give you, like, more money this year,
Starting point is 00:39:36 will you at least play? And then they said, okay, the next year you can just leave and we'll let you, the Bengals might actually go back on their word. and tag him. The Bengals, I say, look, I know you don't want to lose him for nothing, but if you do that, no free agent, or at least no one good's going to want to go there, if they see this is how you treat your players. The Bengals genuinely might backstab him, and there are whispers he might get tagged again. And honest to God, if he does, then just hold out, like, just don't play, because the Bengals are an incompetent organization
Starting point is 00:40:10 led by the failed owner. I'm not sure he can do that, because he's third. Do you think he can hold out another year? He has made an obscene amount of money. He can retire for all I care. He can retire, but I still think he's chasing. I think he's chasing a ring. And I know he won't get that in Cincinnati. I think he can go to the Packers and get significant playing time there.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That would be ridiculous. That would be ridiculous. I know it's not going to be like $29 million. But if he went there, that would be a problem. Because I don't think there would be as much pressure on Mike. and he can actually, you know, heal up. Yeah. That would be ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:40:52 That would be a nice tandem with what they have, so they don't have to be so over-relying on Micah to get a pass rush. I was going to say, like, maybe you could probably, like, I think you said it, though, like, he's most likely going to be chasing a ring because he's 31. He's not getting any younger. and the youngest team in the league right now are going into next season currently is also the team that has the most caps face,
Starting point is 00:41:22 Tennessee Titans. So maybe you get a guy like Hendrickson, a veteran guy that's made a Super Bowl run and try to help lead this team out of whatever the fuck they're in right now. But at the same time, he's 31. So it's, I think Tucker probably has a stronger point to make that he's going to be ring chasing,
Starting point is 00:41:42 which, also could lead to maybe go on to the Chargers because Colal Mac is also a free agent this off season. Yeah. But Trey Hendrickson is currently worth more than Kaleel Mack. Which the good thing about it, though, is that you would get three years younger on that because Kaleel Mac's about a turn 35. Oh, man. That's, I wish I didn't say that. I wish I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That's fucked. Yeah, but Matt is still like really good though, you know. I know. He's still quality, but will he be that way next year if someone signs him? Because it's not going to be a multiple year deal. It's probably going to be a one year proven. Yeah. Chance.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I'd still want to go to my team. The other big name that's going to get thrown around, obviously, is Aaron Rogers, mainly just between him and the Steelers. Um, Mike Kevin Retires. Yeah, he probably should, but it sounds like the Steelers really want him to come back, or at least the players. Yeah, well, we'll see how he feels about old Kevin McCarthy. Still can't believe it's their head coach.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Mike McCarthy, but yeah. Mike McCarthy, yeah, Kevin McCarthy. He's the politician. I don't know why. Yeah, I got from one nothing guy to another. Yeah. Um, I'm kind of just going down the list in terms of last year's A, V. Mike Evans
Starting point is 00:43:11 he's another one that's a free agent his current market values 13.3 so with that being said that's I feel like that doesn't scream wide receiver won as much but I guess the question I could
Starting point is 00:43:29 I feel I'm going to say the Titans a lot today but I can see the Titan like that's another veteran guy that I could see the Titans go and pick up but I could also make the same case for Hendrickson he's holding up where he might be Jason. I don't think Mike Evans is running chasing. He has one already.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, I don't think he's going to go to the Titans either. And look, maybe it's just because of the memes, but we could fill an entire scrapbook with images of great wide receivers in Titans uniforms at the end of their careers. You know, guys like Randy Moss, Julio Jones,
Starting point is 00:44:02 DeAndre Hopkins. Hell, you know what? Why does it? Mike Evans to that? Because why not? Also, there is a pre-agent, though, that I think we need to talk about. Please. Daniel Jones of the Colts. Ooh. I completely
Starting point is 00:44:15 before he's her. And everyone's like, oh, the Colts are going to get them back and they're going to run it back. That's the overwhelming consensus that he's going to go back to the Colts and they're going to pick up where they left off.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Am I the only one who doesn't think that? He's in Achilles. And it was a late season injury. So legitimately, he might not play for like the first few months. And on top of that, he broke his, like, what was at his fibula and the other leg, too. So he's got two bum legs, we'll bum Achilles, bum fibula. And even still, the signs of decline were even when he was healthy-ish.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Because all teams had to do, we saw it, especially around the halfway point of the season, was that they would literally just stack the box and make Daniel Jones beat them with his arm, which was something that he struggled with. If Jonathan Taylor wasn't humming, the offense just dried up. And, like, I think he can still be good. I just, I think the analysts need to slow their role on he's going to come back and they're going to pick up right where they left off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Fair enough. I'm going to have to start learning Riley Leonard, buddy. Hmm. Which, I mean, they basically did. Or maybe if Anthony Richardson's orbital bone heals up, which that's brutal. I hope it does. I think there's one more shot. No, I feel like at this point you can't go back to AR.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It would be funny. Trust me. It would be funny. There's also another defender that you guys are missing here. Devin Lloyd? Yeah, Devin Lloyd. But I assumed he was going to re-sign with the charges. That's an obvious. Jaguars. But you don't know that. The problem is, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:05 I say this every year only because it's true. The NFL hypes up their free agency frenzy and anyone worth a damn gets tagged. Also, I know Chris might want to move us on, but I have a question specifically for Chuck. Only for Todd. Tyler Linderbaum is a free agent. I know this was coming up.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I knew this was coming up. I know what you want to happen, but what do you think is going to happen? Because, honest to God, I can see him getting tagged, but I don't know if y'all got the money for that. It depends on what you think is going to happen. It depends on what we do with Lamar Jackson's contract, because we need to extend him this season.
Starting point is 00:46:42 If we can extend him, I can see us keeping him. If not, we need to do something, or he'll just sign elsewhere. We're not going to franchise tag him. I don't think. If Lamar's Jackson contract extension doesn't go the way we plan, we might have to get rid of Marlon Humphrey in order to make that work. But I could see him going to the Giants or to the Browns. I could see that.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah. I mean, at least you got like some money to pull, some money to play with you. You got 22 million cap going into this off season. Yeah, but I feel like we should have more. But Marlon Humphrey, with the season he had last year, is eating up more than he should based upon his plate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 What are you going to do? Get rid of him. Trade him or get rid of him. Respectfully, though. Respectfully. I don't mean it. Also, there's another quarterback. Malik Willis.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Dolphins. because the way he was playing on the Packers and some would say outshine Jordan Love, I'm not one of them, but a few people have said that. I know there's a home firm in the league to be a stopgap. I don't know where. He's probably one of the hardest ones
Starting point is 00:47:56 to really think about as far as how much cash he could grab. But I could see Miami or another team. I could see Arizona too. Because I don't know if you've heard, apparently they're going to move on from Kyler, or at least they really want to. But, like, at the same time, how much of that is Matt Lefleur and how much is that, like, just Malik Willis being a competent backup, which I think. I think you've got a point there, but you and I both know a lot of these teams don't consider that.
Starting point is 00:48:29 True. That is very true. Most of them actually don't consider that. Yep. Speaking of the Packers, Quay Walker and Trayvon Diggs also up for, also good news. free agents as well. Trayvon Dave. Honestly, put him in the tub because he's washed.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah. Yeah, he's I don't think he's actually washed. And it's kind of like it's unfortunate because he was really electric, man. Yeah. Quay Walker, though, that's important. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Tuck, is there any other ones that you wanted to hit on? Anyone in particular, just to make sure I'm not forgetting anyone big. There is actually. He's actually won, but he's not a household name. What, Debo?
Starting point is 00:49:13 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Bears Superstar Corner, Nashan Wright. Right. Because he's not a household name. Hell, I think he even got snubbed. Actually, no, no, no, he didn't get snub for a Pro Bowl. I think he might have been snubbed for All Pro, though. This guy, think about it.
Starting point is 00:49:33 This season, this was his first year as a consistent starter. He started 16 games. in his first year starting, 80 total tackles, even a tackle for loss, and five interceptions, along with 11 passes defended. So the thing that, and I've seen a lot of buzz around him, but we've all been fans long enough to know, when players have these big breakout years, we have to ask ourselves, can they do it again? Like, if you have a career year and a contract year, I think you got to look at it a little funny. but he was a straight gamer last year though
Starting point is 00:50:11 I could see him go to the Jets the Jets seem like a team that would spend a lot of money on him speaking of the Jets Breece Hall is available yes he is I think he's going to get tagged I have a feeling I think he's going to want to leave but the Jets are going to say oh no we need to cling on to any joy we possibly can
Starting point is 00:50:30 I mean I don't think that they're really clinging on to much joy considering that they don't anything. He was like, he was their offense last year. He was. Even when Garrett Wilton was healthy, Breece Hall was their offense. Yeah. And I could see him wanting to escape and they just tag him and then it becomes like a whole thing. I want to be a thing. It would be very funny. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't put it past the Jets to just dump off Brise Hall considering they did so with Soss Gardner and Leonard Williams, but not Leonard Williams.
Starting point is 00:51:09 help me Quinn and Williams Hunter Williams yes thank you yeah all right other
Starting point is 00:51:21 off season stuff potential trades of course is there any I mean Max Crosby we kind of talked about a little bit before but
Starting point is 00:51:30 maybe AJ Brown that's all I got yeah I feel like the only like maybe Max Crosby but AJ Brown name has been circulating so much throughout the season that it's not hard to be like, hey, maybe you get straight at this off season.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Maybe that happens what's going to happen. Yeah, I could definitely see that. There are also a lot of rumors, like I said earlier, about Kyler Murray and Tua Tagavala Loa. Yep, yep. Squawking Eagles guys were very downplaying the whole AJ Brown potentially being traded thing. Oh, I get that. I understand.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Also, is this going to be the year Buda Baker finally gets traded? Because he's like on the top of the trade block for like three of the last four years and nothing continues to happen. Can something happen? Like at some point, like, have you seen this? Because I'm looking at Spot Track, right, about all the players that could be on the trade block. And these are guys that we've heard of before. Like, you know, like I said, most notably is Buda Baker. there was already some questions about him
Starting point is 00:52:39 Kyler Murray already had questions about him. A.J. Brown now for the second straight year and I know they won the Super Bowl last year but they were still persisting rumors and they keep saying that and you know Max Crosby again and they were already rumors they were going to trade them last year too
Starting point is 00:52:55 and it gets to the point where I noticed nothing ever happens like we got to start noticing here like can something happen please for the entertainment value so Michael Parsons just leaving to go to, you know, the Packers doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:53:10 That doesn't happen. Okay, but he wasn't on the trade block, though. That just came out of left field. You know what I mean? Apparently, he wasn't. How long as they stay on the trade block, and the more of these rumors swirl, you start noticing.
Starting point is 00:53:22 You start noticing that these things just tend out to happen. Like, notice. I mean, that's something I've seen. We'll see. We'll see this off-season. Hopefully another splash thing happens. maybe um another there's another uh receiver that we haven't talked about that the that ESPN is saying could be a trade target it's Keon Coleman
Starting point is 00:53:46 guys let's come on now wow stop it I wouldn't mind him in another in another uh franchise because the way they're treating him is just bad respectfully I know he hasn't lived up to his draft stock, but come on. If you're going to say that about your wide receiver that it wasn't your guys' pick, it was the former head coach's pick. I don't want to be there either if I'm Keon Coleman. I'm in a house. I will say that we have every right to want out.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Yes. And if I do somehow miraculously become a franchise wide receiver, I'm asking for a trade as soon as I possibly can. Another potential trade rumor that was from towards the end of the last season was Joe Burrow. Some vague answers about his future at the end of the season. I remember one of our takes was that very Andrew Luck-esque. I think that's also nothing as well. I don't think that's going to turn into anything.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Joe Burrough staying in Cincinnati. Yeah, he's not going to. anywhere. That would be, that would be suicide, basically. I wouldn't consider that. If they're not going to trade Burrow. I would consider that almost like Luke and Donchich getting traded to the Lakers type of thing.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Like that, that would be the type of effects on Cincinnati, or at least the fans. Yeah. In terms of contract extensions, we kind of touched on a couple of them already. Gonzo, Witherspoon, J.S.Ns up for one. Same with Puka. Here's a couple. So the entirety of the 23 draft are all eligible for contract extensions,
Starting point is 00:55:42 which includes the number one and two pick of the draft, CJ Stroud and Bryce Young. Neither are deserving of it right now. Though I will say Bryce and Bryce Young did play well in the playoffs. I think I think Bryce Young. played well enough to get the extension, but like not a very great, like
Starting point is 00:56:07 a team friendly extension. I wouldn't go that for you. I'd pick up his fifth year option and then go from there. Yeah, that too. You could say the same thing about Straub too. Nope. No.
Starting point is 00:56:22 After the way he just played in the office, I can't do it. I can't. And it was just so opposite a year ago. and the way he just played now? No, I can't. Seven turnovers in two games. That is pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That is pretty bad. He's been looking like this all season. He needs to play better before I can even think about it. I need him looking like the way he was his rookie season when everything was fine and dandy. Now, he has a quality defense. He has competent weapons. I understand the old lines the old line,
Starting point is 00:56:56 but it was like that your rookie year. So it's just, no, I got to see more out of him. Also without Tank Dell as well, and Christian Kirk is also a free agent. Yeah, and they need to sign Christian Kirk for all, before he goes. They need to re-sign him. His market value is only 5.5.3. Yeah, he did come off a down year. As far as, like you mentioned, with C.J. Stroud, possibly getting an extension,
Starting point is 00:57:24 the worst part is, if you're Houston, you actually kind of have. to, you know? Yeah. And the Panthers, they also, not kind of, they actually have to, you know, they trade it up to take Young as well. But is it that crazy to insinuate that Bryce Young might deserve it a little more than Stroud? I mean, Bryce Young never made it to the divisional round of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:57:50 But he also gave. The thing is, I'm a question. C.J. Stroud actually, like, make it, make it? Or did his defense drag him then? No, no, his first season, he made it there, his first season. You're right, you're right, but my question is, like, now, but what has he done since his first season? Because I have his numbers in front of me,
Starting point is 00:58:09 and he has continually gotten worse. I genuinely think, and I think we're talking about it at one point, that the league I loki think just might have figured him out. That happens to quarterbacks. And I think that's- Didn't he play a part in helping beat the Chargers in the wildcard round? I mean, yeah, that was, I mean, the main story was Herbert thrown four interceptions that game thing too.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Again, he didn't do, he didn't, he didn't shoot them in the foot. He didn't shoot themselves in the foot. Even actually, I lie. Do you really shell out QB1 money for he didn't shoot them in the foot? Actually, that's a lie. He did turn the ball over if I remember correctly. He did do that. Yeah, but you understand what I mean, though, right?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Do you really shell out that kind of money for because not shooting them in the foot? Do you know that screams to me, game manager? And he's not, and he has. more potential than game manager. We've seen that. I don't know. Where is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Someone has to get to him this all season. And they're like, hey, it's time to go to work. Yeah. Definitely. Walk him in a room with Tom Brady and just see if any greatness can rub off on him. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Maybe. Maybe. Actually, no, Brady's an owner. He can't. Oh, you can do whatever he wants. Let him talk to Breeze and see how well that goes. Talk to Matt Schaub Texts
Starting point is 00:59:32 No Matt Oh, Matt Schob He was like legit for a few years Come on now He was he was So where his interceptions
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah A dog Bejohn's also up for an extension He's gonna get it Jimere Gibbs Hand it to him Devon A-chan I think you gotta give it to him
Starting point is 00:59:58 Jack Campbell I think maybe. I actually like that camera, but you're going to figure it up, so you've got to figure that out. Yeah. First round picks.
Starting point is 01:00:08 La Porte as well. Porta is another one. Brian Branch. He's also up on next to go. Oh, Gonzalez for New England, too. Oh, and Witherspoon for Seattle. I know.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I touched on those. Yeah. Sorry, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay, Pookie. Don't call you, I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I just did. What are you going to do about it? You're going to save it for later, guys. Tuck, you're going to give Safe Flowers and Extendo? I was going to say no before this season, but after the season, low-key, considering the circumstances he's been dealing with with Lamar in and out of the lineup
Starting point is 01:00:49 and with Cooper Rush in that quarterback, yeah, I think he's deserving of over 1100 yards, quality, both with him without Lamar. He just took, his stats just went down because Lamar was just out of the lineup. Yeah. He doesn't have a fumbling problem, though, is like the only bad thing about him. If outside of that fumbling problem, if he can just tighten that up a little bit, I have no problem of giving him that extension.
Starting point is 01:01:15 But we have to focus on Lamar first before we can even think about it in the extent. And Linderbom. Yes. Yes, him too. Also, for New England, you know, you mentioned, we mentioned Gonzo. Kishon Booty is from that class. as well, and to Mario Douglas. So I think that, and you know, and after that year, then they're going to look at Drake May.
Starting point is 01:01:37 So, and with Gonzo in that class before May, at least when you look at Booty and Douglas in that big picture, because obviously Gonzo and May are the most pressing, right? And then you got Booty and Douglas kind of orbiting that. I genuinely think a decision might have to be made between them. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it's going to be, it's definitely going to be hard. I think it's going to be really hard if Booty has a real breakout year next year. It's definitely going to be hard to make that decision.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Yeah. Yeah. All right. Cool. I think we've touched on essentially everything that we possibly could. Do we want to throw like a second or two towards the draft or no? Yeah, we can. Um, I mean, number one pick's just going to go to Vegas or Vegas that's number one pick and they're just going to pick Fernando.
Starting point is 01:02:35 That's, I think that's, that's it for our trip. That's it for the drafts. Yeah. This is a weird draft, man. This is like, and I think I've said this to you before, there's no difference this year between picking it two and picking it 10. And, you know, one, Dante Moore decided to stay at Oregon. The Jets who were number two needed a quarterback. They're screwed.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And usually I would say, hey, it's a year where you trade down. But I'll say, look, a trade it takes two to tango here. Who's going to be trading up? And are you really going to say, oh, yes, I must get Arvel Reese. Yeah, that's, that's going to be that much of a needle mover, like, yeah. Maybe you could get, like, one of the teams outside of the top 10 to trade up. That would maybe be my guess. Maybe you could swing.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Who's going to be that much of a needle mover, like, off the rip, though? you could trick Dallas into doing so I mean look like the Jets also still have like well obviously the Jets aren't going to be the one making giving up that much for giving up a second rounder they're going to be getting or second round or second overall pick they're going to be getting the majority of what's coming but like they also have two picks that are in the top 16 so they kind of are able to play around with what they have um on top of the other ups seen amount of picks that the Jets have as well. So they're not a bad spot, but as you mentioned, like for what it is in this coming draft, it's not the greatest spot to be in. Yeah. And once again, I said it before. I need everyone at home to understand.
Starting point is 01:04:20 There's literally no difference between picking it two and ten. In fact, I want to go a step further. there are only two prospects in this entire draft that I would describe as like true like blue chip level players. There's literally just two. And I don't expect either of them to go in the top five because their positions aren't that highly valued. Yeah. And in case you're wondering, Notre Dame running back, Jeremiah Love and Ohio State Safety Caleb Downs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I don't view anyone else as like a true like blue chipper. And you don't think Caleb Downs is going on top 10? I do. I think, I haven't done. a mock draft yet. I know I'm a useless chud and I should probably get on that. But if I, if I'm going to ballpark it, I think he goes probably tend to Sinci because, you know, they can't pass up on Sincy. Now, that's where I think he would end up going. However, I have this weird gut feeling that the Giants might take a swing on him because he strikes me as a Harbaugh type
Starting point is 01:05:21 a guy and pairing him and Javan Holland would be scary hours over there. And as for Jeremiah Love, I think he's going in the top 10, either eight or nine to the Saints of the Chiefs because they need a running back. Saints, you know, Camara's aging and the Chiefs, you're losing both Hunt and Pacheco, and I'm sorry. I know we all like to say, oh, Isaiah Pacheco is so quirky and funny. Look at how he runs. He's not an RB1.
Starting point is 01:05:46 He's just not. Yeah. Yeah, if you give Kansas City, Eric Reed and Eric Bianamy, Jeremiah Love, that's a problem. Yeah. A bit of breaking news that just happened now. Patriots are moving defense coordinator Terrell Williams to a high-ranking role on the staff, which opens up a defense coordinator position for the New England Patriots. They're just going to promote linebackers coach Zach Corr, I'd imagine.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Yeah, he was named in the end. Rap Report tweet as a top candidate, which I would be surprised because basically manned the defense from week three on until the Super Bowl. You know, he stepped in and I think he did a great job. Yeah, he can be the DC because he did. I'm just glad they kept Williams, though, because Williams is a dog and they seem to motivate him. Yeah. Back to the draft. Anything else you guys want to touch on in terms of the draft?
Starting point is 01:06:46 No, it just seems like we're missing a lot of quality pieces. Like, it's not the same as it was before. It's like it's missing something. Like the best pass rush of this draft is Ruben Bain, and everyone keeps talking about his T-Rex arms. Yeah, and the thing is, there are a few pieces there. Like, he might even be the best pass rusher. The biggest question mark right now is, I would say it's Arvel Reese,
Starting point is 01:07:13 who's projected to go to. He reminds me of like Trayvon, Walker where he's got coverage upside. He can rush the passer, but he's just kind of being drafted more for the fact that he's a physical freak. He's a, you know, he's a athletic monster. Like that's really what he's a, he's going to need to be developed. Like I said, so he's like a Trayvon Walker type of deal.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Wide receivers, I think are okay. But a lot of positions, and I'm specifically talking about quarterback and running back, where there's a clear cut number one. and then it's like everyone else. My QB2, and I imagine it's yours too, is a Ty Simpson from Alabama. The gap between Mendoza and Simpson is huge. And the only bigger gap is between, like I said, I mentioned Jeremiah Love earlier. We don't even know who RB2 is.
Starting point is 01:08:03 There's a very real shot. Jeremiah Love goes in the top 10 and we don't see another running back at taken until round three. Yeah. It's a shame, too, and you're right. because I was thinking, like, maybe there were some guys. I was, but no. I mean, there's like Jonah Coleman, Emmett Johnson, Nicholas Singleton.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Like, I don't see any of them as being worthy to going around, too, honestly. And this is a very weird, like, interior class. It's very, like, you know, for, like, centers and guards. It's very top heavy. Because for guards, you've got Olava Vega Ione and Emmanuel Prenion and Chase Basantis. And then after that, I really don't know. I mean, there are some guys that I think are worth taking, like, a late round flyer on,
Starting point is 01:08:51 but nobody that I would spend a blue-chip pick on except for Ione. And center, I don't think we're going to see a center going round one or two. That's fine about me. As long as the Penn State O'Lyman is there and I can get rid of Daniel Falilely. We're good. We're good, buddy. Another one I wanted, another team I wanted to touch on is the Giants, because I think they're in an interesting spot.
Starting point is 01:09:12 We're projected right now is Carnell. Tate, wide receiver out of Ohio State. And from what we've seen out of Ohio State receivers, you may want to take them. But I feel like that they should also kind of prior to prioritize the line as well. So right now as it is Francis Magoa, it's going number three. Spencer Fano is projected to go pick after Carnell Tate, number six, two, the Browns. I feel like potentially you might have to take. take a flyer at five on a tackle?
Starting point is 01:09:50 Maybe. The thing with the receiver is, you know, Malik Neighbors tours ACL. Maybe it's the start of something bad. Maybe it's a one-off. You know, it could be either, especially when they're young. You know, it either means you're going to be injury prone or it's just like a freak accident, you know? Yeah. But I don't think, look, Malik Neighbors, I don't think he's going to become injury prone.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I highly doubt it. He just doesn't strike me as that type of guy. I know I saw something in control, but you get what I mean. I was first, like real big injury, too. Yeah, exactly. First injury, period. But the thing for me, the key for the Giants is Wondale Robinson. He had a breakout year, his first thousand-yard year, and he's a free agent.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I think whatever happens with him is going to be indicative on whether or not they take a wide receiver. If he stays, they don't. If he leaves, they might. And also, knowing John Harbaugh, I can. see him taking defense. I could see him taking Caleb downs because he just seems like a hard-bog guy. I like it.
Starting point is 01:10:55 All right. I think we've talked to a good deal of what's to come for the off season in the draft. That's all the scheduled content that we have for you today. Anything else that's on your guys' mind?
Starting point is 01:11:12 Nope. Not really. All right. Well, that'll do it for us. for today's episode. Thank you for tuning in for another Tuesday episode of the Fumblewurst, Tuesday, Friday episode of the Fulmler's podcast, a new episode coming out on Tuesday at 8 a.m. And be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel and also have all our episodes available on all streaming platforms. Be sure to follow our Instagram Fulmler Rski underscore podcast to keep up the pod and the latest coverage on the NFL.
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