The Fumblerooski Podcast - Power Shift -Ep 399 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

On today’s episode, the Patriots get a statement win over the Bucs and gain a 2-game lead on the Bills in the AFC East. Bills lose badly to the Dolphins, Rams and Seahawks put up 40+ pts against division rivals, who has the edge in the NFC West race? Brian Daboll out as head coach for the Giants; A review of the Daboll era in New York. Eagles win a weird one vs the Packers, what to make of this game? Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more along with Week 10 Top 3 Bottom 3!

On today's episode of the Fumblerusky podcast, the Patriots have won their seventh straight game. Boy, are they contenders now? I'd say so. I'd say so. Bill's losing their third game in five matchups, losing to the Dolphins 30 to 13. The Rams and the Seahawks, each putting up 40 plus against NFC West rivals. Who's going to take the division out west over there? And later on, top three, bottom three, and recap of Monday night football.

This is the Fulmuriski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws, back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. This is the Fulmlerusky podcast by Power 8018 Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. C.J. Medeiro, I'm Chris Costich. No Justin Tucker, unfortunately, today.

A little under the weather, so hopefully Pookie will feel okay for Friday's episode. But we're going to start out with a bang. The New England Patriots, a wild win against the Buccaneers, 28 to 23, picking up their seventh straight win. Boy, they're just rolling. They are rolling. um this is a this is a weird game to say the least and we kind of saw a little bit of a vintage patriots a little bit right with pat's getting the score to end the first half get the ball in the second half go up by two scores very typical of the original dynasty when belichick was around um that and mike

for able just laying his nuts on the table multiple times in this game including at the end of the first half as uh mentioned going um oh holy no no adam i can't i can't stay on this topic i'm i have to move on after well wait we can tease it for later because we have a new all right all right fine take it away now i got to try to focus up again no no i can do it i can do it i can do it's cool so we're going to talk more about this later but we want to tell you that as we're recording it right now some news has just broken giants head coach brian dable has been fired he is now the second head coach to be canned this season the first of course being uh uh they have the dude for the titans there for bengals o c and he's so forgettable you know already but but yeah so dable is

out uh this you know obviously comes after they lose a heartbreaker to Chicago and a lot of people were it's funny a lot of people were saying uh at this point keep Shane and ditch dable and it's looking at the Giants just might do that and we're going to talk more about this later but Chris back to you we're talking about New England all right yeah not get myself back under control here um so yeah Mike rable end of the first half it's so Drake may like looks like he's trying to do a cuby sneak and end up just falling down and they just wasted it down, and then proceeded to not get in the end zone for two straight plays, waste the clock down to two seconds and just throw a little F-U jump ball to Stefan Diggs to get six.

And then Trevion Henderson, next first drive of the second half, house call for him, two house calls for Trevion on Henderson. And imagine being so fast and so good that when you break out for a touchdown, you have so much space that you have enough time to look over at the sideline to see if he should go down or not. Imagine that. Drake May, amazing, pretty usual. So amazing third down throws that he made,

one where he avoided Vita Vaya with like a two-handed or two hands on the ball, swim move and finding Mack Hollins over the middle. Two amazing throws. from Mac Hollins, or two Mac Hollins on third down from Drake May. Stefan Diggs had a solid game as well. Just overall, a great win for the Patriots. And hats off to the defense as well. That defense was on the field for a long time in that second half.

And besides that 92-yard drive that they let up a touchdown on, they were nails. They were nails. getting stop after stop when they needed it. So that's off to them. CJ, your thoughts. Well, as I'm making the thumbnail here for Babel getting canned, I do want to say there was this narrative going into the game that said New England wasn't

legit. They hadn't beaten anyone good. Buffalo was a fluke. You know, they did beat Carolina, who is above 500 or is now 500. hundred was above 500 you know last week and you know but that didn't count you know like nothing was serious all right well they just beat tampa now what oh oh oh oh oh let me guess here's a tampa faithful or saying uh but our injuries bullshit bullshit you know no no no no no no no no no hang your heads in shame no no shut up just shut up we the pads were missing

Stevenson, Booty, and Ellis. They're, like, usual, they're, like, drop into coverage linebacker, although he's not, you know, shouldn't be doing that, but whatever. So, so, yeah, we were also missing RB1. We were also missing one of our better receivers who's leading the team in touchdowns, and we were missing our main cover linebacker. So don't cry to me about injuries, because New England was banged up to. The injury excuse really isn't working for Tampa here.

And this was a really good game, of course, you know, both teams. getting their licks in um bucks to that 92 yard drive um mayfield did have a cool touchdown granted it was in garbage time but i digress uh defense uh was getting to drake may a lot a lot of batted passes they did have a lucky interception in the end zone you know cool fingertip grab by tyke smith but at the end of the day uh the pats prevailed with uh three touchdowns, three separate touchdowns that were over 50 yards. That's the thing. The Tampa defense has been good.

Jamel Dean, he's not getting his love. If he's a Pat's fan, I'll give him some love right now. He's coming in, I believe, like, allowing, like, the lowest quarterback rating in the entire league. He was like, like, uh-oh, it was like in the 30s or something like that. Uh, you know, you have beat a vea, you know, just being an absolute game record. Yeah, yeah, Diabe, and, you know, among others, you know, able to. to get home and attack the quarterback. Pat's Oline only giving up one sack, Drake may be the second

most sack QB. A lot of those are on him, but he's getting the ball out faster. And that was something that I think kind of flustered the Tampa defense, because like I said, I believe he only got one sack on him. But the thing is that Tampa defense, which has become one of the sturdier units in the league, at least in the front seven. And you know, you got Jamel Dean Antoine Winfield in the backfield. They couldn't stop giving up chunk plays. Like I said, New England, three touchdowns, all from rookies, by the way, Trayvion Henderson and Kyle Williams, of 50 or more yards. Yeah, bad. That is, that's like you can't do that.

I mean, granted, the bucks are also contenders, but at the end of the day, it's no wonder why they lost. You've got dashed for big plays repeatedly, you know, and the, you like I said, Kyle Williams, you'll just turn on the jets for a 72-yard touchdown. and Trayvion Henderson getting two. And at the end of the day, just their defense collapsed. You know, there's only like two, three minutes left in the game. Pats have to whittle down the clock. But, I mean, they do. But you also know that a touchdown, that's basically game.

And it's second and nine. And New England's in their side of the field. And the simplest way to put it is Trayvon Henderson called game. Took it like over 60 yards to the house. And, yeah, you know, Tampa did get that touchdown and garbage time, but that was really it. They dressed up the score a bit, but honestly, New England had it. They went into Tampa now an NFL best, as you can see, 5 and 0 on the road. I'm sorry, the soft schedule narrative really doesn't hold as much weight knowing that they beat Carolina, who yeah, yeah, their 500, shut up, to keep crying.

they beat Buffalo in Buffalo and they beat Tampa in Tampa and once again the injuries don't count because New England was missing Ramadre Stevenson and Kashan Booty so it quite literally evens out so there you have it yeah I agree this was a big win for the paths

of course as you mentioned 5 and 0 now on the road road warriors the resiliency that they have on the road is insane and of course like one of the big things that the Patriots have against them you should you could say is their soft schedule well no kidding because well they're playing they were the one of the softest teams in the league last year which was good for worst in the a fce so they're going to be playing teams that were the worst in their division last

year um of course and of course like the big when you're talking about good teams in the league they take care of the teams that they're supposed to beat. And then, like, yeah, they're not going to win every single game of, like, teams that they're going to be playing that are contenders. So you could make the argument that maybe they won't beat the bills this time around. But this win against the bucks shows that they will be contenders in the league this season. Maybe a Super Bowl at the very least, the playoffs. and I love Drake Mae.

Yeah, this game also, I think, did a lot to establish the run as well. You know, Trayvon and Henderson, those two big yards, 14 carries, 1447 yards, 10 and a half yards of carry, and two touchdowns as well. So, yeah. Also, this game showed something we haven't seen from a lot of recent Pat's teams. actual like explosive plays we haven't seen that in a bit from them and three touchdowns like I said of over 50 yards that and doing that against the Tampa defense when you need it is just insane so yeah if they if you had any doubts before there are no more doubts they are in fact legit yeah but this like the offense hasn't been this good since It's Mack Jones' rookie year, which is wild to say. All right. Anything else you want to touch on from this?

No, no, I'm good. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We're still going to hold off on Brian Daible for a hot sec, but obviously he's well on our conscience. But we're going to quickly talk about the bills first, now losing three of their last five. And now, like technically a game back in the division,

but really two games in the NFC East. This is the Fulm-Beriski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.

All right, time to talk about the bills losing three of their last five and a embarrassing loss against the Dolphins. 30 to 13 on the road, I may add as well. This was especially a big loss. Obviously, they've lost three of their last five, which started with the Patriots on Sunday night football. And it seemed like that they were back in the right direction, especially out of the buy.

They blew out the Panthers 40 to 9 on the road. They get a huge win against the Chiefs 28 to 21 at home. it seems like they're in the right direction again and then this game happens and boy just an ugly ugly game josh allen played terrible uh tua was dicing up the uh bill's defense as well uh they could not tackle to save their life devon a chan ran for 174 yards and two touchdowns jalen waddle had a day um and now they find themselves now two games back in the AFC East, obviously record-wise, it's one game, but because the Pats have the tiebreaker, it's two games. So the bills are in a bad, bad spot. Josh Allen had himself, two turnovers,

an interception of fumble lost. It was kind of like seeing the Josh Allen of, the Josh on previous to his MVP season again. And the bills are in a bad spot. They're in a bad spot. Now, they're going to be fine, but they're also going up against the Buccaneers next week.

Then they got a test against a tough Texan defense the week after on Thursday night football, a short week. So you got an interesting, you got an interesting, five days coming up, not from here, but from Sunday to that Thursday, it's going to be interesting. CJ, your thoughts. I mean, obviously, as long as the bills have Josh Schall, they're going to be good,

they're going to be in the playoff hunt, they're always going to be a threat. We know that. But losing three in your last five, what the hell is going on? This is such a random team. They put belt to ass against the Carolina Panthers, did they not? Yep. And they beat the Kansas City Chiefs, and then you get steamrolled by the Miami Dolphins and Mike McDaniel, aka Dead Man Walking, and you lost in an upset in Buffalo to New England.

This is such a random team. You have no idea which Bill's team. you are going to get day-to-day. You know, and it's not like they've got, you know, really many injury excuses to point to. I mean, yeah, losing at all of her sucks, but, you know, Matt Milano's back. The defensive backfield is in relatively solid shape.

You still have Khalil Shakir. You still have Dalton Kincaid. You still have James Cook. And also, you have Keon Coleman, but then again, Keon Coleman hasn't been playing all that well. so yeah do with that what you will i just i don't understand this and it's not like you know i always like to say oh hey it's a division game anything can happen maybe miami would have kept it close is why i thought it would be worst case scenario but never my wildest dreams

did i expect a three score game and buffalo to be on the losing end of said three-score game. And yeah, I know it's in Miami, and for those northern teams, Miami could be a really awful place to play, but, oh, that's just gross. And you want to see even grosser, their remaining schedule. Next, you got to play the Buccaneers. And after they lost to New England, they're going to be out for blood. They're going to be at Houston. You should win that, granted. However, that defense is a little scary. Then you're

going to be in Pittsburgh. Who knows which Mike Tomlin team you're going to be getting, because, you know, one day the losing to the Chargers, then they're beating the they beat someone good recently. I don't really watch this. Last week. That's last week.

Bro, yeah, I'm sorry. You know, the Mike Tomlin cycle. Who knows what side of the Mike Tomlin cycle you're going to be on? Then you're going to play Cincinnati. You should win. You can put up, your defense is going to give up 40. You should put up 45. Then you're going to be in New England, the team you already lost to. You're going to be at Cleveland where you should win.

Then you're hosting the Eagles who are always scary and then the Jets. So there are some teams that you should be, but I'm just not confident in the bills anymore. I'm really just not. And we look at the division, right? Like you said, you know, they're a game behind the Pats, but the Pats do all tiebreakers. So in reality, they're two games behind. I don't know if I would call the division out of reach because the Patriot's schedule is easier, I would say. Not by a lot because, you know, they do have to play a lot of these teams.

You know, like they, Pats do also have to play the Bengals. They've already played Cleveland. They've already played Pittsburgh. They've already played Tampa. You know, Pasch still have to play the Jets. And in fact, they're playing them on Thursday night. So they're playing a lot of the same teams. And so far, New England, is able to take better advantage of it.

I wouldn't say that the division is out of reach for Buffalo, not by a long shot. However, I don't care what the odds makers say. I don't care what Vegas says. I don't care what the stats are. I think right now the AFC East is New England's to lose, though. Yeah, at least no favor to win, but my only counterpoint is I genuinely don't care. Yeah. The division definitely isn't out of reach, but we could also do a little, let's see how these guys finish type of thing real quick, too.

You know, let's look at the bill schedule real quick, right? so um got another one adams says breaking news he's got a graphic coming in it's not breaking news he just no he literally said that like on our comms so whatever anyway here's here we go uh yeah three games there two games ahead plus three with the division win there it no they're one game ahead or yeah two games ahead or one and a half games fuck that's what i mean yeah my bad one and a half so yeah just the so new england's at eight and two buffalo six and three

miami's three and seven jets are two and seven for the listeners that can't see this um but looking at the so looking back at the bill's schedule real quick so let's just go through it let's let's call the bucks game a loss right let's say they lose for their last six uh texans Thursday night football. Let's call this a win. So they're one-on-one in this stretch. Steelers, let's call that a wins. Two and one.

Bengals, it's called a win. Three-in-one. Patriots. What do we want to call that as? Toss up, tilting loss as of right now. For loss for the bills or the paths? Bills. So they're two in, three and two.

Browns win, four and two. Eagles. Leaning loss. Four and three. Jets, five and three. So five and three. So add up the numbers. That's 11 and six to end the season. And if you were to, if you'll look on the Pat's side, so obviously they got the Jets coming up, right? Jets on Thursday night. and then the week after they have the Bengals. So let's just chalk it up to 2-0 right there.

Giants on Monday Night Football, 3-0. For giving the Pats to win against the bills, that's 4-0. Then they got a game against the Ravens. Honestly, we could say, let's call at least one of those two. Let's say the Pats get a loss against. the Ravens. Jets and dolphins, we could probably chalk those up to wins.

But the dolphins could be a loss depending on how the standings look at that point in the season. Yeah. So there's a very real chance that the Pats only lose one more game. Maybe two. Upwards of two

in the next two months or next month and a half. And they would be at 13 and 4. if we were to give them two losses. So in that retrospect, the Pats would be still a game or two up on the bills at that point of the season. So if you're the bills, I think you're looking at this and you need to run the table.

You need to run the table because there's too many, there's too many games upcoming for the Patriots that they have a more than likely chance to win. compared to the bills who have a slightly tougher schedule down the stretch here. Yeah, I would definitely say that for Buffalo, it's not a matter of, you can't count on New England to lose. You have to be able to control your own destiny. You need to run the table. Yeah. All right.

Let's take a quick break when we come back. Brian Dable fired from the New York Giants. about 10 minutes ago from that just happened from the actual report. We're going to take a quick break. We'll talk about that on the other side. This is the Fulburwski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.

Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumbleriski podcast. Brian Dable out as the Giants head coach. Broke the news a little earlier. Of course, y'all are going to be listening to this Tuesday, November 11th, today, November 10th.

But we've already posted on our Instagram, so I think you should go like it. Well, I'm recording a pot. But Brian Dable fired after a two and eight start to the 2025. season and a little unfortunate as well. It's a Giants team that was showing a lot of promise, but was dealing with a lot of injuries. Of course, Malik Neighbors and Camp Scataboo, most notably in terms of the injuries that the Giants' offenses had to face,

but Jackson Dart had shown to be a really good rookie quarterback. But the unfortunate thing, too, is that, well, coming into this season, Daibald was going to have a hot seat he had a hot seat uh but now they've lost four in a row and two of these games they blew a pretty good lead uh granted it doesn't help didn't help for the giants that uh jackson dart got injured and they got uh russell wilson who just like can't play quarterback anymore uh can't push the ball down the field anymore russell wilson in that quarterback um so that doesn't help um yeah what are your thoughts on this firing i i would have like to have seen

dable get another year with jackson dart but there there does come a time where you need to make a change and sometimes the best thing to do is move on and say you know what it's not working out we need to plan for something else in the future well you know what i'm just going to come out and say it. I don't think he should have got another year with Jackson Dart because even, look, I know Malik neighbors went down early in the season. So outside of him, even when they were healthy, you know, when they had Dart and they had Scataboo and all them, they still weren't winning. Like, no, I'm sorry, they weren't winning when they were most, even when they were mostly healthy before the injuries really started piling up, they weren't winning. Even when Dart was at his peak,

they were still below 500. And not just like bad. They were snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. We all saw that Denver game. What was the excuse? There's not one. Oh, yeah, we have Malik Neighbors. We win.

Yeah, yeah. Because last time I checked Malik neighbors didn't play defense. So that doesn't explain that side of the ball completely imploding. And, you know, he's not your kicker either. So that doesn't explain your kicker just completely wetting himself when you needed him most. And honestly, yeah, this is for the best. And I hate to say, because I used to defend Dave. I'm like, you know, I think he's a good coach.

He has potential. You know, look at that 2022 year. But it has dawned on me, finally, that 2020 was the exception and not the rule. You know, when they beat the Vikings in the playoffs, we all knew the Vikings weren't legit. what were they like the first 13 win team to have a negative point differential going into the playoffs so yeah honestly that that was the exception um and honestly my opinions of joe shane have flip-flopped as well because Shane he's been drafting pretty well at least the last two years and i think he's going to stay around but dable obviously is going to be canned

so Dave so Shane seems to do a decent enough job of supplying talent you have to find a coach that can maximize it uh Mike Kafka is like as I don't know if you said this I was also working on posting it was uh is going to be the interim head coach now officially so we'll see if that turns it around but Jackson Dart has a concussion so I expect him to miss next week so yeah yeah um so So obviously, this was the, as mentioned, second time this season, they lost after leading by at least 10 points with under four minutes remaining, which was they're now the second team since the merger to do so since the 2004 Seattle Seahawks. This is the third straight year that they've won two of their first 10 games. They're 11 and 33 since the start of the 2003 season. Also, this is the fourth time that Jackson Dart has been evaluated for a concussion. this year, including the preseason, insane. This is also the fourth double-digit lead on the road that New York has had that ended in a loss.

Daible is 20 and 40 and 1 as the Giants head coach, which you'd be surprised, puts them behind Ben McAdoo and Ray Perkins. this will be the sixth head coach since 2016 for the Giants with new interim that being Mike Kafka who is the assistant head coach and offensive coordinator was also a finalist for multiple head coaching jobs

over the past two seasons so that could potentially tell you maybe what to expect along with all this other stuff uh from this season uh he was also our dable was also fined hundred thousand dollars for approaching the blue medical tent while dar was being examined for a concussion earlier this season um so this was there were obviously some questionable things that dable was doing of course read you the blown lead statistic as well uh so writing writing was on the wall for dable unfortunately

especially, you know, it sucks to say too. You know, he was coached the year for the NFL back in 22, the year that the Giants had a weird run with Daniel Jones beating the Minnesota Vikings. And the Vikings were hot that year, too, in the wildcar game. But, yeah, Giants head coach, Brian Daible, out of the job. Yeah, for the best. Anything else you want to touch on from this? Oh, from this, no, because are we done with our segments or do we have one more?

We do have one more. We got the Rams and the Seahawks putting up 40 plus points against the Niners and the Cardinals, respectively. I see that respectively because that's the order that I put the Rams and the Seahawks. Fair enough. I just want to say one thing real quick before we jump to that. Adam mentioned it, Chris, I don't know if you saw. The Cincinnati Bengals are opening the 21-day practice window for quarterback Joe Burrow. So the odds aren't great, but they're not dead yet.

And even if they're technically out of a playoff running, they might just be looking to play, spoiler. Of course, no O-Line, no defense, but, hey, Burrow, Chasingingham, that is a, scary group. Yeah. Hey, maybe talk about that after ran Seahawks. Let's see what we got for time. No, but fair enough. I don't know.

I were hosting. You were hosting. I can't blame you. But I'm just saying, so that's just something to keep an eye on. I don't think he's going to be back this week, but don't be shocked if they wait till like the third week of the 21 days. All right. Yeah, it should be interesting to see what the

bengals play this 21 day practice window. And depending on how their season rolls out, then, yeah, maybe we see more Burrow at the end of the season. All right. Rams of Seahawks. This is the Fulner Ruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.

Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. on back to the fumble rusky podcast let's talk about the nfc west the rams and the seahawks both winning by both putting up 40 plus uh Seattle winning 44 to 22 and they did the same thing that they did to the commanders last week and that was winning in the first quarter uh game was out of reach uh Rams basically the same thing Niners kind of slowly came back into the game,

try to make it a game, or at least make it more respectable, but Rams were, Rams were bawling against the Niners this week. Same thing with the Seahawks. Both Stafford and Darnold are playing at an MVP level this year. I mentioned this briefly, too, and it's when you look at like the advanced statistics and all that,

the EPA on deep ball, Da-da-da. Like, Drake May, obviously, we've been talking about how he is the first, he's at the top of every single lead aboard, especially historically too, probably having like the best deep ball past season that we've seen in a long time. Sam Darnold is right up there with him. And that's something that isn't being talked about enough. And it helps too, because JSN is having an offensive player of the year type of years.

well. And there's a couple other guys, too, like Jonathan Taylor. He had himself another three touchdown game, 244 yards against the Falcons. But we're not talking about the Colts. Both teams are insane. The Rams offense, absolute nails. Seahawks, everything's working for that. The thing with the Seahawks is that they're not,

everyone thinks of them as a run first team. They're really a team that just knows how to run a good offense with three types. tight ends and they're beating you with these three tight end sets and you're going to be seeing a lot of more talk about that especially from uh Greg Olson he's been talking about that a lot as well and especially in how successful the Seahawks have been in running these 13 personnel is the more correct term to really be using but they're able to be successful out of the 13 personnel because you can sell the run a lot more effectively with that, even if the Seahawks run game isn't clicking that day.

The Rams side, I mean, Kiron Williams, dog, Puka, dog, Devante Adams. He looks like the Devante Adams in Green Bay. He's having a fantastic year and stepped up and obviously filled in the wide receiver one role greatly when Puka went down. basically the NFC West is going to come down to these two teams and these two teams only and it's a this this might come down to a week 18 matchup at the end of the year and lo and behold these two teams are facing off this week at 405 in L.A.

That'll be a game to watch. That could very well be game of the week. Chris, you know what I mean? Oh my God. So So Quick look at the standings real quick to see where we are

in all of this. So Seahawks and the Rans both at 7 and 2. Seahawks currently have the tie break because of the division record over the Rams.

49ers aren't far behind at 6 and four, but in third place, and the Cardinals at three and six, they're just a mess right now. The Niners, you can write them out, write them off because of the injuries and just, I mean, the Seahawks on the ramp. They're just so dominant this year in general, too. Thank you, Adam, for that graphic. So these two teams play, still have to play each other, as we mentioned, this coming week in LA and then they face off one more time week 15 Thursday night football so that's going

to be a huge huge game for playoff scenario wise of course and for the race for the NFC West and Seahawks face the Niners week 18 whereas the Rams the Rams will be playing the Cardinals, Week 18. CJ, who has the edge in this division? And who do you think will come out on top? Every bone in my body wants to say, the Rams. But I think I'm going to go with the Seahawks, Ryan, the hot hand.

I really do for one reason. I think the name of the game here is, defense and once again with the rams what we're seeing is a really strong front seven but a back four that's it's not terrible but the seahawks back four is just better you know you guys like uh you know devon witherspoon you know reek woollen all those guys right there sorry there's a thing that flew by i don't know if you saw it but uh but here's the thing the rant but if i'm sam Darnold, what I'm thinking is, all right, we were kind of in the situation last year, you know, when he was on the Vikings with the lions, right, and how that would continuously flip-flop and

the odds, and then they had a chance to secure the division, and he folded when the lights are brightest, which then snowballed into him folding in the playoffs. You cannot let that happen again, especially since, let's just say the Seahawks, right? you know, they're number one in the NFC. Theoretically, the Rams should be number two, but they are the top wild card seed, despite the fact they have a better record than Philly, Green Bay, and Tampa.

So, yeah, the thing is, the Seahawks defense has been one of the sneakly better units in the league, right? Their past rush isn't talked about, but they're playing at a more effective rate. They are, like I said, the back four, they had been playing pretty well as well. But the Rams, I definitely think that's going to hurt them a bit. And one more thing, the Seattle offensive line. Oh, my God, what a turnaround, right?

I mean, you know, you grab a piece or two in for agency, grab Grey's Abel out of the draft, and boom. All of a sudden, you know, you're putting Gino on his butt every other plate, and now you've got Sam Darnold actually staying upright and delivering the throws. And with Jackson Smith and Jigba, they can stretch the field there. You know, they're using the 13 personnel set. That's working well. You've got two-headed monster in the backfield. And, hey, Cooper Cup.

Hey, you know, he's still planning up solid levels. So I know that the Rams have a better odds to make the playoffs and win the division in Seattle. But I'm actually going to have to go to Seattle here. I really am. I'm feeling Seattle as well, but it's weird. Like, these two teams are, have. They're pretty even. Yeah, both teams are allowing fewer than 20 points a game.

They're both allowing fewer than 315 yards per game. It's really the past defense for both sides where they're a little, they're a little weak on. They're both kind of middle of the pack in terms of passing yards allowed this season. But when you look at their rushing yards, or at least rushing yards allowed per game, they're both top 10 in the league. Like, they really are good at controlling the run game on the defensive side of the football. Pardon me. You all right there? Yeah, no, I just wind gone.

It's my pipe. Jesus. I understand. Yeah. Just make a joke. But it's, I feel like it's really going to come down to quarterback play at this point, though. Like, can Sam Darnold be able to finish the season strong? I think that's going to be the biggest thing, right?

Because Sam Darlane did not finish the season strong last year. And we know Matt Stafford can lead your team to a Super Bowl. Boy, look at these statistics for JSN, on pace for 119 catches. in 19166 yards this season and nine touchdowns. He's been, as we said, he's been insane this year. But like I said, my thing is it's going to come down to the quarterback, who's going to be able to finish strongest, and very well maybe that these two quarterbacks are going to be top to an MVP voting

by the end of the season. Who knows? Especially if Sam Donald is able to, like I said, finish strong. We know Matt Stafford's going to finish strong. How's Sam Donald going to do? Well, anything else you want to touch from that? No, honestly, I think we covered it. That's definitely going to be probably the division to watch.

Yeah. You got two teams going ahead to head. Maybe the NFC North as well. a lot of movement in the NFC. So we'll see. But before we keep talking about the NFC, let's just see what a Monday night has in store. Facts. Yeah, because Packers, Eagles,

that's going to be a good one. Obviously, we're recording this at 124 p.m. We're going to step aside for a quick break and jump to later tonight for the recap of Packers, Eagles, Monday Night Football. This is the Fulmaruski podcast. You know, I've always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.

Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. All right. We are now out of Monday night football. Week 10 is officially complete. And boy, we started week 10 with a terrible game. and we end week 10 with a terrible game.

Now, I think the one thing I will say is that I think this game saw more of just really good defense, obviously, like compared to the offense. It was more of a defensive game. Two very good defenses shut down two solid offenses that have been a little inconsistent this season. But still Like Thursday night Yeah Thursday night was just all around That was just two offenses

Going out there And shooting themselves in the foot This was more This is more about good defense Rather than bad offense That's the only And I need the only thing That's saving it

Yes Eagles come out with a win 10 to 7 I was It got to a point where I was hoping For the scoreless tie to happen I was

it got to that point for me. I was very happy that it was a scoreless tie at halftime. Yeah, it happened in the second quarter. I wanted it to be scoreless going into the half. It was to a team magical. You won't believe this, but I even predicted the final three plays that first half correct. I don't, but go, no, I'm not kidding, I do.

You don't have any reason to lie about it. Yeah, my friends will. vouchment for me on that but yeah anyways looking at this game itself uh so with the win eagles now have themselves um i should have pulled up the standings before i start on this but uh they should probably have like the i would think the two seeds still they have the one seed because of their strength of victory shot up over seattle's uh So Eagles currently hold the top spot on the conference. Seattle's in second.

Eagles also have a better conference record than Seattle at 6 and 1 compared to Seattle's 4 and 2. I wanted to throw out there as well. Lions and 3rd, bucks and fourth. Rams are at the first wild card spot at 7 and 2 as kind of what we discussed earlier. Bears and Packers round out the 6th. seven spot of the NFC standings. But this, like, I think that Mike Tariko and, or Mike Tariko, Joe Buck and Tony.

Troy Aikman. Troy Aikman. Dude. What is wrong with me? Well, I just named, I just started to name, like, I just named Mike Tariko, who's not even on Monday Night Football anymore. and then I went to a completely different freaking

TV company and CBS and was about a pull Tony Romo God, what is going on? Troy Aikman and Joe Buck, I think, said it best in the fact that I don't think either coach is really coming out of this game very happy, regardless of a winner loss.

Obviously, Nick Seriani's probably thinking, Jesus Christ, like I got away with one there. you know it's so well i guess we'll address the play now uh nick seriani elects to go for it on fourth and six within like well within field goal range for jake elliott yeah it's a little windy but yeah it was also kind of long too they were they were like around the 40 if not just outside that was gonna be like almost a 60 yarder i'm pretty sure they're at like the 38 yard line but still so you add that plus do that's still going to be like 55 yarder.

Huh? Yes. I don't know, man. I mean, Elliot would have nailed it. I think. But anyways, yeah, it would have been a tough kick regardless. But just a play call in general, just running like a go route for AJ Brown. And it's like, was even that good of a ball.

Like, I feel like you got, I feel like you got to go somewhere else in your back for that for a play call like that. um but either way it didn't hurt seriani uh shit even a punt like even a punt would have been or an arm punt uh maybe that's what they were going for with that gel and hurts throw for all i know but um either way didn't hurt uh the eagles uh because first play that the packers ran was uh deep ball for christian watson that went incomplete and then that kind of ended up shooting their chances because they ended up going over the middle to Dobbs, or not Dobbs, the other guy

can't think of his name, but... Watson? No, not Watson. Wicks? Nope. Melton? Melton, thank you. They got Melton over the middle. He was in bounds, and they spiked the ball at five seconds. It was too far for

McManus to kick, and he was dealing with an injury. They were better off just throwing a Hail Mary at that point, but yeah um this is back-to-back weeks now that the packers have put up stinkers at home granted this week was against the eagles uh their tough defense but last week against the panthers something's got to give here um pretty sure this first time since 2018 that they've lost back-to-back games at home at home as well uh so now the packers are not surprisingly because of the division they're in and the conference they're currently holding

the last spot the last wild card spot in the playoff race at the moment and right behind them is the team that they lost to the Carolina Panthers so this could get into a or 49ers as well but either way you don't want the Niners to get hot you don't want to fall into a weird lull where all of a sudden the Carolina Panthers have a chance to knock you out of the playoffs. You don't, so they're, they're in a weird spot. CJ, your thoughts. I don't think the Eagles won.

I think they escaped the game. And when I say escaped, I don't mean escape Green Bay. I mean, they escaped themselves. Going for it on fourth and six, It was something like it was fourth and one or something you could push your way out of. Oh, no, no, no. That was fourth and six. That was horrible.

Why would you do that? I mean, don't get me wrong. You didn't win. You got lucky. And I know what they say, oh, a win is a win is a win. To anyone who uses that term, my response is, you don't watch sports and it shows. This, once again, wasn't just a win. It was an ugly win.

I see that game and I have questions now. This is a win that raises questions. I'm not sold. I mean, granted, the Eagles were kind of shaky, but you didn't win. You got lucky. And if anything, my questions and my doubts of have been amplified from this game. And Green Bay, you know, you're allowed to play consistent football before Toyotathon, right? is Jordan Love aware of this?

Like, someone's got to say, dude, dude, dude, you're allowed to do this before Toyotathon. Many people would be happier if you did, but here you are. Not playing good football before that. And just, this game was just so, it was a defensive slug test granted, but my big takeaway here isn't even how it ended.

Other than the fact, Brandon McManus had one of the worst final kicks I think I've ever seen. ever that that might be a prison kick the way it got shanked but it's about the tush-bush and you know if you've been watching the show i've defended it many times but it's getting to a point where it's got to go it's getting ridiculous and i know if the eagles fans are going to say stop it if you don't like it okay how about this people what if you actually followed the the rules because when you look at how the touch push is formed right it's an illegal formation every time the center's head is over the ball and they're and you have uh guards that are over

the belt line of the center which chris you played football is that not a legal formation over the bell line yeah it can be over the belt line of the center they can't be behind the belt line of the center No, no, that's why I meant. They're behind, you know, that's what I meant. Sorry. They're not all behind the belt line. They're all, they're up on the line, man.

That's not, that's not illegal for me. But you can't have that many guys on the line at once, though. No, you don't. You can have as many guys on the line as you freaking want, actually. You can't have X amount of guys in the backfield. You know, you beat me there. But, okay, but that still doesn't change the fact that the center's head is over the ball. yeah so that's okay i thought the bell line that's that's more or less off sides than it is a legal

formation either okay it doesn't matter at the end of the day i'm still right that's still a penalty every single time i'm just uh no no no i get that no i get that i do but regardless it was you know wrong point but or wrong point but the outcome is still right you know what i mean i think every time they line up to do the tush push it's a penalty the center's head is over the ball like if you just adjusted it that's cool and second every time they do it it's a false start someone jumps too soon every single time they literally said it on the show oh philly got away with one oh dickerson jumped and every time they run the tush push someone jumps that's like the nature of the play that's literally

really like how it is because you know someone's also got a line up to like push hurts and stuff as well and they're getting a running start before they snap the ball in some case not every cases but some or you have a lineman that goes out to like strike first that's a so either way they're lining up over the ball which like you said is off sides and on top of that it's a false start every time hell green bay did it green bay literally ran the tush push and there was also a false start that was not called. I don't even have an issue with the play existing. Just follow the rules.

It's the fact that you can literally throw the yellow flag every single time you run it and it never happens, I think is really what people are getting pissed off about. Yeah. Also, one criticism that I had even for when I supported it, which I'll echo again, is that I just think it's weird how offensive players can push each other towards the first down marker but defenders can't like let's just say like a whybacker can't run up and push the defensive tackle from behind i don't get why the offense can do it but the defense can't like i legitimately don't understand is it a safety thing is it like i don't well it was like

when they created the leverage penalty it was a safety thing because uh you know the center like the center is in a prone position so uh at least on like special teams punts, kicks like that, that's where it was, uh, mainly prevalent, uh, in terms of like this open, the open field stuff, uh, it's a little different. But they still can't. Yeah. Now, that's what I'm saying, like you should be, if that's the case that you should be able to allow them to do it. Like, you either allow the defenders to push on each other as well or yeah. And honestly, it's not even that they can do it well at a high rate because you're seeing a lot of teams being able to replicate it. Not to the, not to the successful degree Philly does, but still to some extent

they're able to. It's just that it's a penalty every time and I don't think I've ever seen called. I mean, I'm sure it has been. No, it has been called, but it's few and far between. That's the only problem. Yeah. So you either got to like blow the whistle every time they do it. Like when you see the center's head over the ball, you blow the whistle and you throw the flag. like you kind of have to flag the i mean maybe not ban it but you have to flag it out of existence yeah well i i i mean dean blandino said perfectly like a month ago and he said that this is the most ridiculously officiated rule or officiated play in football and now alone it literally breaks two rules just by existing and the fact that they don't do anything is like

genuinely starting to like get annoying yeah yeah no it's it's it's ridiculous um yeah the the officiating part of it is going to be the sole reason why it gets banned from the league all right uh that is our recap of the money night slugfest that was the packers and the eagles let's move on to our week 10 top three bottom three yes sir yes sir this week wasn't as exciting as other weeks to say the least

unfortunately at least compared to last week with the amount of not great games the entire 4 o'clock window was blowout Sunday night football was a blowout most of the early games

were blowouts up until like right to the last minute I think there was like five minutes left in the Pat's Bucks game and they were the only team at that or the only game at that point that was where the it was being decided by less than 10 points. Granted ended up being smothers. With that being said, we'll start with the Patriots. A statement win against Tampa Bay. I love Drake May. Drake May and the Patriots.

Mike Vrabel, Stefan did. eggs. Give me some of that. Come on. Come on. Hey, give me some of that. Yeah. I love that.

I love it, too. Pats are riding hot. Seven game win streak. They're going to be threatening to make a Super Bowl run, at the very least to playoff run. Texans, big comeback win. Down 19 on the fourth. Davis Mills turns into the best QB in the league. And the Texans get the comeback win against the Jackson's.

Jaguars, 36 to 29, pretty much keeping their, pretty much keeping their season, like, somewhat alive. Out of the blue, out of left field is what, they're now, uh, they're now four and five. Like, yeah, the division's probably going to be out of reach because of the Colts, but that wild card is sneakily kind of still there for the Texans, just they can't figure it out on offense. yeah the ramps huge win against the 49ers 42 26 putting up 40 on the niners winning by multiple scores which against the nineers is very tough to do uh it doesn't hurt not hurt doesn't matter especially in a divisional game uh and the nineers says i was just saying like right on the cusp of playoff spots still also the niner's beat

them earlier in the year. Don't forget that. So this was an important revenge game for division and the conference. Yep. And now the Rams are still right there for the top of the MC West with Seahawks. Not having the tiebreaker, but setting up nicely for next week for them. Also, while I touch on the Pats real quick, I didn't get a chance to. I said this earlier in the episode, and I'll say it again.

the narrative that they haven't beat any good teams while already flimsy is officially dead like it's going into retirement you can't argue it i mean once again you'd say the bucks were banged up okay well so was new england like what's your point show me a team that's not yeah i agree bottom three the buffalo bills wow what even are the bills at this point is my like legitimate question Chris. What are the bills? Because you go out there, you know, you beat the Chiefs, you beat a healthy Ravens squad in week one, but you drop games to the Falcons and the dolphins? I don't understand. Yeah. I don't understand either. James Cook only had 53 yards. Granted, they kind of needed to start Aaron it out at one point, but they also led up 197 rushing yards, 174 of them. from A. Chan. And Josh Allen looked bad.

Josh Allen looked bad. Speaking of looking bad, the Carolina Panthers looked terrible against the Saints. Something about the Panthers. It's the moment that they are, the moment they are favored in a game, they just don't show up. In this case,

they lose to Tyler Shuck in the freaking Saints. Yeah, the Saints only put up 17. So it's not like there's any reason, you should have lost. Yeah. I just once again, like I said, with what are the bills? What are the Panthers? You know, you upset the Packers, then you get dominated by the Saints?

Well, I get it's a divisional game, but I'm sorry, even when they're above 500, like, yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. They're better than they were. They're not a team to take lightly, but they're also unsurious. Yeah. And if they win this game, they're tied with the Niners, like, in that first team out spot of the wild card. Like, yeah, there are two spots out right now, but they'd be right there. They'd be one game out. Now they're two games out.

So that just makes it hurt that much more, especially with the big win against the Packers last week, along with the fact that the Packers going to get it done tonight. Last team on the I just said true Yeah Last team on the bottom three The other half of the Texans game The Jaguars Blowing

Said 19 point lead In the fourth quarter To Davis Mills They allowed 26 unanswered in the fourth quarter 26 unanswered points In the fourth quarter This is another team that you were saying with the other two.

What are the Jaguars? Yeah. I don't know, man. And then you blow a three score lead to Davis Mills. Disgusting, absolutely abhorrent. You know, at this point for the Jags, my question is, what's it going to take? The team itself isn't bad. they've got a lot of good pieces on both sides of the ball.

But they just, they don't click. They don't gel. Nothing about that team really flows. So once again, my question, what's it going to take? Like, you can keep cycling through head coaches from, you know, from Doug Marone to Doug Peterson to Liam Cohen. I hate to say it, but no matter how many top picks you get, I just, I don't think Lawrence might be the guy.

It's a starting caliber, but, you know. It's here he's not the guy or he they need to get rid of Shane Waldron because he's That too. I forgot Shane Waldron man. He's got to go. Yeah, he's he's got to go. I don't know how he has a job anywhere. Yeah, like we've really broke it down on the show. It's literally proven like he makes offenses worse wherever he goes. There's like if you look at next gen stats it'll show you like I was telling you about this literally last year like when he was over in Seattle. Like, look at the route tree that DJ Moore. Oh, no, no, no, Chris, it goes beyond that. Yeah, no, yeah, oh, yeah, it actually goes beyond that.

No, I know, but I'm saying from the example I was saying. Oh, continue, because I have one more thing after you. Yeah, no, I know the Cooper Cup part as well. Oh, yeah, no. Well, instant Waldron leaves, Cup wins the triple crown. Like, that's not a coincidence. Yeah, and then, like, when you look at the route tree, DJ Moore was running in Chicago.

it's literally just like it is and bates and that's the only thing he was running and then it was the same thing with jason after uh waldron showed up in seattle is the same exact thing now look at him he's on pace for damn near 120 catches and almost 2,000 yards like imagine has been playing better now that waldron's gone as well yep and and now you're brian thomas junior who was, I think, top three in Offensive Rookie of the Year voting last year. Now, as a shell of himself. The route running's terrible. He is no hands. Like, that is the Shane Waldron effect. Like, at this point, it's proven. Happens once

that's, you know, that that's just bad luck. Twice is, like, kind of fluky, but three times, that's a trend. Yeah. Like, imagine, imagine Brian Thomas Jr. without Shane Waldron.

Like the moment they, the moment Liam Cohen screws on his head correctly and fires Shane Waldron, imagine what Brian Thomas Jr. will do next year when he isn't scared to catch the football. Yeah, hey, I agree. Yeah. That's all the scheduled content that we have for you today. Nathan, you want to add on your end, CJ? Yeah, as usual, we got to do our pick them. And remember how last week we all tied and tuck one? Well, this week we have the opposite.

We all, instead of having three losers and a winner, we now have three winners and a loser. No offense, Chris. You got six right, myself, Adam, and Tuck all tied with eight. I was actually really hoping for your pick and the Packers to be right, because if it was, then we would have all had seven, and that would have been funny. But no, Adam, myself, and Tuck had eight.

Chris had six. I was really hoping to get the Falcons one. That would have been, that I've been slick. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, that is all the scheduled content that we have for you today. Thank you for tuning in to another Tuesday episode of the Fulmbruske podcast.

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