The Fumblerooski Podcast - Refball -Ep 450 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

On today's episode, no replacement refs! A look at the new NFLRA CBA and what this could mean down the line. Taking a peek at some schedule leaks before Thursday, and Chris Boswell is now tied with Brandon Aubrey as the highest paid NFL kicker in history, and ring of honor talk. Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

On today's episode of the Fumble Ruski podcast, no replacement refs. Don't worry, folks. Replacement refs will not be coming back. A new CBA has been formed for the Referee Association. Schedule release has been announced for Thursday, March 14th, March 14th, May 14th. Don't worry, we are not going to be afraid of the aides of March, or in this case, the aides of May. So we're going to look at some schedule leaks, a couple signings, and a new player getting sent into the Ring of Honor for the Vikings. All that and more.

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We got C.J. Medeiros. We got myself Chris Cost. It's no tuck with us, unfortunately, today. Brother men's at work. But, hey, I'm still going to have a good episode. C.J., how's your weekend? Solid, you know, I can't complain. Hey, man.

Nothing complain, you know? Nothing to complain. Wasn't a terrible weekend. Nice. What about you? You good over there? Yeah, yeah. We're chilling.

We're chilling, you know. You all got a three-game sweep against Dartmouth, so that means I'm on the Ivy League tournament for next week. So that's all I consider that a good weekend. Oh, nice. In that news. So, yeah, it's pretty good. But I think that NFL fans got extremely great news over the weekend now,

because the NFL Ref's Association and the NFL have come to terms on a new CBA, a new seven-year agreement. So no more replacement, no more replacement refs. God bless America. The full details of the agreement, not immediately available. This was the current CBA, which was set to expire March 31st. Oh, excuse me. And so this was basically one that's going to be put into effect once out.

Fuck, I just had my hand on a glass. I'm sorry, don't do that. I'm trying not to. So this new CBA will take effects after that. So June 1st, May 31st. But yeah, like I said, full details of the agreement, not immediately available, but the NFL tied the negotiations into several initiatives for improving and for improving officiating. And according to sources, the league will get increased access to officials.

and the offseason for a formal training program during mini camps, training camps, and joint practices. The NFL will also develop a bench of officials and will have a greater latitude to use performance metrics for postseason assignments rather than seniority. Officials will also receive significant raises from their 2025 salaries. Earlier this spring, the NFL offered a 10% increase in game fees across the board and the regular season and up to 30%. for those who worked the Super Bowl. We got hoped to increase the probationary period for new officials from three years to four. But the agreement kept that duration at three years. And this was in an article three days ago, or in this case when you guys are listening, four days ago,

from Kevin Seifert and Kaelin Collar on ESPN. So, you know, this kind of goes back to what we were saying, right, or what I was saying when news of potential NFL replacement referees was back in order, right? You know, I'm all for dudes getting paid, guys and girls getting paid, right? I'm all for that, especially referees because being a referee in any of these four major sports is the hardest fucking thing in the world. It really is. It really is. But the officiating, you could say, in all four sports,

have increasingly, well, there are actually studies in baseball that have shown that the strike zone for umpires is a lot better than what it is a lot more accurate than what it was 20 years ago. But anyways, you could say officiating as a whole has gone, has been kind of shit, at least than that. Kind of. Pretty shit in the last 10 years. And granted, I will say that maybe it's a little. bit more blown up because social media is becoming more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more of a thing as we grow older.

So that takes into account. But it still doesn't take away from some of the shit that we've seen, especially in the last five years. So obviously once more details comes out, we'll probably have a better take on it. it to be honest because, you know, this is all they've really given us in terms of what's actually in the CBA in terms of what they're doing to improve officiating.

There was that report that the NFL wanted to do more in terms of holding officials accountable, which the NFL RA was not about that, but by any means, which not surprising, but also shocking at the

same time, considering that, as we mentioned, the officiating has been shit, really shit in the last five years. But I think when you look at what's actually been made available in terms of the information, I think these are all good things in the long run. Yeah, I guess, look, I'm going to be frank here, okay? I'm not sure how I feel about them getting a pay raise. my point is if I did my job the way the NFL officials did theirs, I would be fired.

And maybe, you know, I've heard that argument before about, oh, well, you know, it's actually social media that's blowing everything out of proportion. But last season, bar none, had some of the worst officiating I had ever seen in my life. It was probably the worst officiated season I've ever seen in my life. I say this every year, but every year it keeps getting worse. And I feel like it's kind of a middle finger to the fans at this point. Because I'll go back to what I said earlier, like, you know, about the past interference rule, about that independent study that was done that showed that they missed like over half their calls or whatever the numbers were.

And that's why I realized that these are not people I think we can negotiate with. I wouldn't describe them as particularly good people either because when they were willing to let their ego get in the way of correct. a call, then yeah, maybe they shouldn't be an official. And I was one of the handful of people that said, you know what? Maybe replacement reps wouldn't be so bad. Like, let's just see what happens. And now they're getting a pay raise. That's disgusting.

However, what I will tell you is I do like, and I really mean it, that I sincerely do like that they are going to implement that system. where the playoffs will be decided not by seniority or, you know, who calls it Blab games, not by seniority, but actually by, you know, performance. Because, you know, the younger officials had to, like, you know, earn their stripes, you know, wait for a few years while the veteran officials were able to call playoff games. So the point is when they're performing terribly, you know, it gets to a point. where you got to say, I mean, sure, you're calling these playoff games.

Do you really deserve it? You mean, you sucked in the regular season. What makes you, I mean, what assurances do I have that you're going to stop sucking in the playoffs as well? I don't have that. And I'm just going to say, I just don't think they deserve a raise. I mean, you can say, oh, I love to see guys getting paid. I mean, I do, too, when they deserve it. Oh, yeah.

They have done nothing to, you know, to get. any kind of raise. And I will maintain that if you or I did our jobs the way they do, yeah, we're getting canned. Yeah. And I just, uh, the fact that the, uh, official deal isn't out kind of worries me because I, I know there's going to be a lot of stuff in there that we don't approve of. And honestly, I kind of feel like the officials union, what are the refs association,

where the hell it's called? Uh, I feel like they won this. unfortunately. I was hoping they wouldn't. I felt like they would and they did and I don't like it. And worse yet, the league couldn't get their accountability thing in there, which yeah, obviously, you know, they don't want to be held accountable.

But at their minimum, make them do press conferences. Which maybe there is an accountability clause in there that just hasn't been released yet. But at the same time, if there was some sort of accountability clause.

I feel like we would have heard about it by now. No, no, we would have. Yeah. Because that would be like the, that would probably, that would be the biggest thing in the CBA.

That's for sure. Like, holding reps accountable, like, who would have thought? Like, obviously when we originally talked about it, like the MLB actually does like the best job in terms of holding guys accountable.

Surprisingly so, considering the names that you, you know certain names of umpires, unfortunately. which you really shouldn't, but that's just, well, yeah, now we got ABS. Yeah, now we have EBS and everything's great. But did you, pop topic, did you see the,

there was a game yesterday. I think it was an athletics game. And the guy is trying to, the catcher's trying to hold his frame, but it was called a ball, but he didn't realize it because he thought it was going to be a late strike three call. So he goes to challenge it,

but because he was holding, the frame so long, he wasn't able to challenge the call. They were not too happy about that one, to say the least. You said this was the A's? Yeah, it seems like something that would happen to them. Yeah, they might have been playing the Royals or something, I forget. The A's were not happy about it. That's peak A's behavior, honestly.

For real, for real, man. but I'm yeah I'm very curious to see what else ends up being in this CBA I hope that there actually is some sort of accountability clause that hasn't been released yet but like I'm not holding my breath yeah I'm not holding my breath either especially since well we would have heard about it by now I'm hoping that we're wrong

I'm really open we're wrong but yeah anything anything else about this CBA that we want to Touch on. I cannot stress enough. I don't like the fact they got a raise, but I'd be able to live with it if there's some like accountability clause or something that would allow them to be held accountable. Because the fact they can go in there do a horrible job and get zero repercussions, I'm sorry, that's just not how the real world works.

Yeah. I wonder if this. I wonder if the wording in this article in terms of the, quote, negotiations into several initiatives for improving, officiating, and getting increased access to officials in the offseason for a formal training program during mini camps, training camps, and joint practices, a bench of officials. I feel like that, or in performance metrics for postseason assignments and says seniority. I wonder if this is like a very liberal way of saying that there's going to be accountability. Possibly. I don't know. Because like what initiatives would you put in outside of holding officials accountable to improving officiating?

Like I don't, I'm not like asking you to give me an answer. I'm more just seeing this like, um, facetiously, but like, I definitely use that word incorrectly, but you get what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I understand you entirely, and I sincerely get it. I just, I don't know. But I feel like if there were, they would have set it outright. Yeah, yeah, me, yeah, I, I wonder if like, this is the accountability, but they said in a very, very liberal way to protect the RA. Possibly.

There's your spin zone for the day. Good to move on? Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. All right. So NFL schedule release set for Thursday, May 14th. So we've had some schedule leaks already, but this is when the official NFL schedule will come out. I don't know if you saw this,

but the Patriots schedule got leaked. This is about to turn into a Patriots podcast for like... No, I actually didn't see it. You didn't? No. So the Patriots were given two, four primetime games. First two are on the road.

One's against, first ones against Buffalo Thursday night. I don't have it in front of me. I'm kind of just going off the top of my head. First one is against Buffalo on Thursday night football. Another one is against the Packers on Monday Night Football. I think that's a home game. The Pats have a Sunday night game against the Jets towards the end of the season.

Then they have another Sunday night game against Kansas City on the road. But I think that the Buffalo and Kansas City, those two, the Thursday night game and the Sunday night game or in the span of three weeks. Oh. Yeah. You know what I said before. I'll say it again.

I hate primetime games. I hate night games just so much in general because odds are I got stuff to do the next day. Yeah. Yeah, no, I've always never. I mean, I'm always a primetime guy. I'm more of a night owl myself But like I could I could I would be totally fine if these games were bumped to like 730

745 not like 830 6 how about 6 30 or maybe perhaps 7 Yeah yeah that that'd be great So you know some of these let's talk about some of the schedule leaks that we know about already right So Seahawks, they're playing on Wednesday night. Wednesday, September 9th is the opening night at 8.20 p.m. That's on NBC. The next night, the 49ers and Rams, playing in Melbourne, Australia on Netflix at 835 p.m.

On a Thursday night, like, get the fuck out of here. Like, Jesus. Like, now, the thing about the NFL, you know, we can, rag on these the times and whatnot all we want but at least they start at the time that they say they're going to start at like the NBA where they're like yeah we're gonna we're gonna throw in a start time of eight o'clock but we're not actually gonna tip off till 830 like fuck you but anyways i digress um 49ers rams at 835 p.m. Netflix Melbourne and australia and then sunday night football is going to be cowboys giants the bills are going to be their home opener and their new stadium.

It's going to be Thursday night, September 17th, week two against the Lions. Hmm. And you like that? That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, to open up the new stadium. Yeah, it's later. I say so. I like that. That'll, that'll be a fun game.

That'll be a fun game. Um, week three, Sunday. in Rio, Rio, Rio de Janeiro, Ravens Cowboys, 425. That's an interesting one. That feels like one of those that should be like a random Friday night game, just because it's in Rio. Yeah, I just, I can't. You know, I know, I'm sorry, I can't do this anymore. I just, I can't.

I'm so tired of the foreign games and it's throwing off our schedule. And you know, all these ungrateful foreigners, all they do is say, like, you know, whatever the Super Bowl rolls around, they show that one fuck-ass graphic. It's like, I, bro, you know, more people watch the World Cup than they do the Super Bowl. Nobody cares outside of America. And yet, they cry. And they whine for actual, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, they actually, like, cry. and whine and moan to get games. And then what I,

that would sound like me, we'll say, hey, I don't think we should be giving the foreigners' games. Because all they do is bitch about the sport. They say, no one cares. But it's like,

no, but you sure seem to wine in your country. You sure don't mind the money that it brings in. You know, and I just think we should take it away. You know, watch them shut up real fucking fast. I'm just going to say,

I just, I'm so done. Because, you know, we saw during the Super Bowl, too. And I mean this, every Super Bowl, there's that same graphic. Every year, it's the same thing. It's, oh, no, your place, Americans. Like, yeah, well, it's like, you know, if you don't like it that much, why do you want it here? Why do we go out of our way to accommodate you? I just don't understand that.

I genuinely don't understand why we go out of our way and change the times up here to accommodate. them. Who cares about them? By their own admission, they don't care. I mean, they actually do. They just say it to get under our skin because for some reason, like, we live in their head rent free. I just, you know, when it comes to the tiers of football fans, I'm not talking about as humans. I'm talking about as fans. These are less than we're talking about. These aren't like people in the way you and I are people. We watch football. They are along for the ride. And I just think the league should remember, you know, who got them to this point? Us. And now we can hear, oh, every NFL team should have and, you know, should have a foreign game. It's like, I don't want that. Those viewership graphics are so full of shit, to be honest. Let's, let's think about it this way.

How long is the Super Bowl, CJ? How long is the Super Bowl? I'll end this argument, right? I'll end this argument right now. How long is the Super Bowl? It's like a, yeah, including the halftime show or like, because it's long? Just, just, just how long's Super Bowl? The game itself, like, when, you know, the time is like an hour, but it's usually like four because, you know, it's how this show works.

It's four hours. Super Bowl is four hours. One day. It takes up, you know, before we talk about the festivities, if we go through the whole thing, it's one day. It's one day. How long is the World Cup? Don't know, don't care. They don't care about our Super Bowl.

I certainly don't care about the World Cup. I don't really care that's coming to the United States. You couldn't pay me to care. It's more than one day. I could tell you that much. It's at the very least two weeks. It takes up a whole fucking month. So those viewership graphics are full of shit

because that's a total combined viewership of people watching the FIFA World Cup for the fucking 60 plus games that happen in the matter of two weeks or whatever the hell of the time. is. That should end your argument, right? If you want to go World Cup final, if you want to go World Cup final, fine, fine. Go World Cup final over the Super Bowl.

I'd love to see what the viewers. Let's look it up. Let's look it out. It's probably more because it's true. More countries do watch it. I just think that these countries shouldn't be biting the hand that feeds because, you know, all they do is talk about how much superior the real football or soccer. as we call it, is they talk about how much better the World Cup is.

But I just don't understand the cognitive dissonance here. And yet the, you know, the Europeans, the Australians, the Brazilians, and all these other creatures, people, I'm joking when I say creatures, don't fucking jump down my throat, internet. They line up to go to these games. And honestly, why do we? Who the hell even lives in Australia? Why are we even playing in South Paulo, Brazil, where you're more likely to get shot more than anything?

It's like, oh, hey, we're going to London this week. I'll better bring our stab vests. Why? Why do we humor these people? So, Super Bowl from last year, not this year's Super Bowl. The Super Bowl from last year was 127.7 million viewers. The FIFA World Cup, 2002. totaled 5 billion viewers across all media platforms.

So it was an estimated, the final match between Argentina and France set a record because it's Argentina and France. With an estimated 1.5 billion people watching. Yeah, so it's like, surely, like you can say all this all you want, but I mean, even though it's more, it's like, well, yeah, obviously it's the world. But then again, you don't get to say the world doesn't care and then cry and whine for the NFL to play there. It's like, I don't know.

I just like I said, I hate the cognitive dissonance. Either you care or you don't. Yeah. I'm going to try to do some. And also to all these other countries, I'm just saying there's a reason. There is a reason that you get all the loser Super Bowl birch, you know, like the losing teams, Super Bowl champs. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you get. Yeah, that is just a friendly reminder. That is how we view you. You get the losing team merch because, you know, they make both. Just remember the rest of the world. We dump all that off on you. That should remind you where you are. So next time you say, ha, ha, football,

American football, stupid, no one cares. Yeah, I'll remember that next time. You're like, oh, I sure hope they come to my country. So I just did some quick math. I'm just going off the format of this year's World Cup, which is normal. 104 matches in the World Cup. So you divide that by the 5 billion viewers that came in from 2022

and would assume that it's going to be 5 billion again this year. Probably. We're looking at about 48 million per match. Oh. Well, except for the... Except for the final, of course. But shit, like, 1.5 billion just for the final.

So I was unsubtracked that from the original five. Yeah. Do you want me to do that? Yeah, sure. Because if you subtract that from the original five, right? So it would be $3.5 billion. I just got to do some quick. Yeah, and then divide that across all the other games.

And wouldn't you know? Well, well. Yeah, it's 33 million. Yeah, that's globally. Yeah, it's globally, man. And people globally still watch Super Bowl. People globally watch Super Bowl. I mean, not as much because I just, I don't understand like why we're always in their head rent free.

It's so ridiculous. I know this is a more beefed up version of last time's ramp. I'm just so done. All they do, like I said, is just they talk shit and say, oh, we don't want you here. We let you win. And then it's like, okay, but you go, but you still go to the game. So put your money where your mouth is and don't because Lord knows real fans like you and me, we don't care that our team's playing overseas. We don't get to be like, ooh, London, yeah, show cool.

Like, shut up. Like, we don't care. We just watch the team. You know what they could be playing in a Waffle House parking lot for all I care. I think I remember like, you know, when I was like 10 or something like that. Like the idea of the Patriots playing in London and playing the Buccaneers and whoever else, like the couple of years following that, like the idea of that as a 10 year old, yeah, that's cool. But then you get older and you're like, oh, fuck. I got to wake up early on a Sunday now to watch my team instead of like, instead of just having a roll, like I could just roll out of bed at noon.

maybe make a cup of coffee, maybe go to dunks or something or go to Market Basket or Hanifers, something like that and grab whatever hot lunch they got in line over there and I'll call it and sell my ass and call it a day. Instead, I got to roll out of bed at 8 a.m. 8.45 and watch my team maybe win. Great. And I'm also thinking of the Patriots playing in Germany against the Colts.

Yeah. Well, I just once again, I don't care. And I can already hear some people already wanting to, like, shit talk to me and say, oh, you're an uneducated American, you all. It's too, shogh. I didn't it? That's like, look, look, let me explain something. I've been to the UK.

I've been to France. I've been to Spain. You have your sports. You have ours. And if you don't care as much as you say you don't, then once again, why do you still go? Why do we live in your head rent free? It's kind of like that meme from that one show that I've never seen. I think it's like it's John Hamm and someone else on the elevator.

And it's like, I feel bad for you. I don't think about you at all. Never forget, rest of the world, that's where you are. Sports-wise, we don't care. We do our own thing. You talk all those shit you want, but then just don't come, don't watch. But you still do anyway. Yeah, like, I get like the Premier League will come down,

will come to America and maybe they'll have like fucking Manu playing Juventus in Lincoln Financial once in a blue moon or like Arsenal plays Liverpool at Gillette Stadium or some shit but like it but like those are exhibition matches those are exhibition matches that's

if we wanted maybe the NFL should take that take a page out of the Premier League's book and do that because that's I mean the Premier League isn't giving us the time of, isn't given America the time of day to give us a regular season match. Fuck the Champions League ain't doing that. Exactly.

I just, I don't understand. And there's a lot of people that, and there's a lot of people on this side of the pond that care about that shit too. Yeah. No, you're right. You're right.

Not to go against your point that no one gives a fuck. Like you and I don't follow that. So we don't give a fuck about. the Premier League and Champions League. But, yeah. No, I just I just don't care. I continue to not care.

I never did. Like, if you do, that's cool. But just stop whining as all. Yeah. All right. A couple more schedule leaks. I guess sticking on the foreign train real quick, because that's really the majority of these games that got leaked.

Commanders are playing against a very tough opponent in TBA at 930 on October 4th, week 4. Jaguars also going to be playing TBA then next week at 930 in London. And then the Jaguars, well, this is the time of year where the NFL loves to shiv the Jaguars. but at the same time it's low-key also like a scheduled win that next week and they're playing the Texans. So October 18th, write down, if you are a gambler, call the number one and B and two, bet on the Jaguars to beat the Texans in this game. Lions are playing TBA in Munich, Germany. 49ers are playing Week 11 in Mexico City. I feel like I saw that that was supposed to be against the Raiders.

Maybe. I just, I'm not going to lie, though, this TBA team, Lee really must love them. Yeah, I know. It's giving them all the international. I had to. Joking. I got to say, I can't say that that was an original joke. I stole that from the Section 10 pod.

Are you familiar with Section 10? Nope. It's Red Sox podcast. This weekend there was, I would say, three of the four scheduled games this past week against Tampa were all TBAs in terms of these starting pitchers. Yeah, so out, TBA. He's everywhere. TBA, man, he's up for a Cy Young.

Thanksgiving Eve game that's going to be on Netflix. Normal Thanksgiving Day slate. Eagles Cowboys is named as the 430 time. Normal Black Friday. And then we start getting into the Saturday stuff. The Christmas slate is finally getting into a spot where the Christmas slate kind of makes sense. We're kind of getting into Thanksgiving.

world now. Or like, or that part of the, we're getting to that part of the rotation of the calendar where Christmas is lining up to the weekend. Hmm.

So Christmas Eve is on Thursday this year. Christmas Day is on a Friday. Now we're starting to get to where shit actually makes sense instead of making the Kansas City chiefs and the Pittsburgh Steelers play on a fucking Wednesday. Yeah, no,

but let me let me just tell you right now, all right. I hate sports on Christmas, and I know once again, I'm in the minority here, but I'm a Pat's fan, right? Well, are you fine with the NBA? I don't care.

I rarely watch the NBA. Like, I'm a Celtics fan, but when I do tune into a game, sure, it's not going to be on Christmas Day. Look, if the Pats are playing on Christmas Day, I'm just not going to watch it. I just, I don't care. I'd rather be with my family than watch my team potentially stress me out and maybe

ruin my day. I'm not one of those people to let that game ruin their day, so it doesn't matter. But still, I know some people are. Why would you go to that? And honestly, if you are one of those people that goes to the game itself on Christmas Day, like, why is your lifestyle allowed for this? And I feel bad for the athletes. And, you know, you mentioned the NBA, right?

I saw a quote last year about some that LeBron said about how he hasn't had like a family with his Christmas with his family in like forever. Oh, well, when you're LeBron James. I just, I think the Christmas games themselves are stupid. Like, I'm never going to watch that. Well, when you're LeBron James, you accidentally. sign up for that shit, unfortunately, because the league will milk you to fucking death like a cow. I guess.

Because, like, LeBron has probably played in every... I'm not even disagreeing. I just, I don't care. I've never cared about these Christmas Day games, man. It does not affect me at all. Like, I don't watch NBA, NFL, like, you know, and I'm more to the NFL than I am the NBA. I still don't. Like I said, New England could play.

Boston could play. I just, I don't care. I just, I don't care. Did not care then. Do not care now. Well,

CJ, all I got to say is, while you're a better man than me. Well, I think our viewers can put that together. No, I'm messing around. Oh,

okay. That's why I said in this instance. That's why I said in this instance, you're a better man than me. This instance. S. M.H. Man.

I'm going to remember that one next time. Next time what? In what scenario, what do you? All right. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Bliped down a little man. Hey, what's that mean? What does that mean?

You know what it means. All right. We're going to step aside for a quick break when we come back. We're going to get into a couple signings that were made over the weekend. One of them being a franchise kicker. All that more. This is the Fullmerie's podcast. It may not have always showed it in the

out sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. All right. So remember when Brandon Aubrey was named the highest-paid kicker in NFL history? Yeah, remember good times.

Why do you bring this up? Remember when I said that maybe it's just going to end up being like a Miles Garrett? and Max Crosby thing where like Max Crosby has it for like a week, maybe two. And then Miles Garrett sweeps in and becomes the new highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history. Remember when I said that about Brandon Aubrey? Yes, I remember. Why?

Well, that's the case here. Chris Boswell received a four-year deal from the Steelers and is now tied as the highest-paid kicker NFL history. I just know that at some point, Cam Little from the Jags is going to overshoot both of them. Yeah. If you know, you know. But yeah, Chris Boswell, man. What a guy. What a legend.

You know what they, you know, he really is the last member of the Killer B's area. You remember that? Ben, Bell, Brown, and Boswell. Yeah. Now it's just. I didn't realize we're considering Boswell in that category. But, yeah. I don't know.

urinating tree did and if you watch them on YouTube then you know Ball you are quite familiar with Ball I know urinating tree I guess that one just went over my head yeah well I watch all this stuff so I don't think I've really watched much since the

uh since the uh days of our Steelers stuff no he brought some back you know he does the music well I mean like I mean like neck deep in the oh yeah yeah that was like yeah what 2019 yeah the year that like juju fumbled against the saints and they were like on their last breath of trying to make a playoff spot and ended up like seven

eight and one or yeah they tie with the brown like week two week one that year yeah yeah he's still doing this week in sports ball too so yeah notice that he still does it like you know it's still good but yeah so some people did think about chris boswell as part of that killer bese So, yeah, you could argue he's the last one. And either way, across 11 years, he's hit 87.7% of his field goals. And he's hit 95.7% of his extra points. That's pretty cool. I think that's good.

I think he's a two-time pro bowler. I think 2024 he was first team all pro for kicking. as a kicker and such. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying. Also, not to mention he's a career 52 of 63 from 50 plus. That's pretty solid. I'd say that's pretty damn solid.

So, yeah, I think he deserves it. I'm looking at pro football reference, and they have him as the 26th kicker of all time. What? Yeah, you know how they do their... like the Hall of Fame. Are you saying? They're a Hall of Fame monitor, yeah.

Okay. What do they have is at the top one? I'm curious. Is it Vinitari? Oh. And then it's Adam Vinutieri. And then it's Justin Tucker. And then after that, there's a big jump.

And then it's Gary Anderson, Nick Lowry. And I just got to pronounce his name. It's like Jan Jan Stanrod, Stenrod, Stenrod, yeah. Your Honor, that's it. Yeah, I always forget. And then it's Jim Backin, Garrow, Yepperman, Stephen Gostowski, Mark Mosley, and Jason Hanson. I didn't realize Skiskowski was going to be up that high.

Yeah, but he is, but he's not. Because you could argue he is a top 10 kicker of all time, but you have to realize Morton Anderson's Hall of Fame meter is a, I'm going to round, I'm going to round with all these. Yeah, like how big of a jump on this meter are we talking? Oh, just wait, just wait. Anderson is a 97.5. Vinutieri is a 92.7.

Justin Tucker, whose third is an 81.9, and then Gary Anderson is a 65.9. So the jump is very real, Chris. Yeah. You kind of have to like either A, B in the league for 20 fucking years. B, win a lot of Super Bowls, and C, have a lot of extremely high. intense clutch kicks in some of the biggest moments in sport. Yeah, that sounds very right.

Which I basically just, which I basically just named off like Adam Venetary's entire career, but that should sum up like what you have to do as a kicker to make it into the Hall of Fame. Because what, like, of those names,

like, what, it's Vinatary and Moran Anderson that are the two, only two guys, only two kickers in, the Hall of Fame, right? Yeah, I think Jan might be as well. Because his name was in bold.

Yes, Jan Stenrod, yep. So yeah, that's going to be, that's pretty much it. Yeah. Do you know of the other three guys that are in the Hall of Fame that were also kickers, but not as their primary rule? No, I don't. Would you like to take a guess?

No. Okay. George Blanda, 26 seasons as a quarterback and a kicker, which is fucking... Oh, wait, wait, Blonde was in the Hall of Fame, huh? I didn't, I wouldn't think that. He was someone that I thought, but I didn't know he was in the hall, but yeah. Class 81.

Lou Groza. Oh, yeah, I should have figured out. Class of 74, and then class of 2014, not too long ago, Ray Guy, the first and currently only pure punter. in the Hall of Fame. A great guy. Yeah. But, yeah, I guess,

is this the start of making a case for Chris Boswell? I don't know. I don't see it. Let's wait until he retires, but yeah, I feel like if he had closer to Adam Venetary, that's the thing is like,

I feel like Adam Minotary is like, that's the, that's unfortunately, the benchmark, right? Yeah, I would think. Which he had, which Adam and Terry had one hell of a fucking career.

You're right. Yeah. David and Joku signed a one-year deal with the Chargers. So, Chargers added into the past game,

which surprised and not surprising Joku kind of went this long without signing to a team. It's a one-year deal worth up to eight. million. He's 29 years old.

Contract boyated on February 10th. Over the entirety of his nine-year career, all in Cleveland. Nunjoku ranked second in Brown's history and touchdown catches, receptions for a tight end. Only trailing Hall of Famer? I was not paying attention at all. Sorry. Ozzy Newsom. Oh, yeah. He has missed 11 games due to injury the last two seasons.

production is kind of dipped because of that. So it makes sense why. So that's the, this makes sense is why it took him so long to come to terms on a deal with somebody. But, okay. I mean, if this,

what's the, what's the room looking like right now in LA? What's that room looking like? past catchers in general or so you got so now you add in David and Joku who currently on ESPN

is listed as the number two tight end or Ronde Gadsden is listed as the starting tight end I understand you Syracuse legend to Ronda Gadsden

yes and then McCockney Quentin and Trey Harris are your three receivers yeah that makes sense I'll see what Mike McDaniel can do with them

you know, because he's a damn good O.C. So I think it's good. They were, there's been a lot of talks right now of like, is Justin Herbert an MVP candidate? Like, there's been a lot of talks on first take and some other NFL shows or other shows in general about the possibility of just how far Mike McDaniel can go with this charged offense. Well, that is a very good question.

but I will tell you one thing. If they can't win a playoff game this year, then remember that uncomfortable conversation we had about Herbert when they got bounced again. We're going to have to have another one. If they miss the playoffs or go one and done, then I don't know how seriously I'm going to take Herbert anymore. Yeah.

Literally could just be Dak Prescott of the AFC. Yeah. I feel like that this is definitely the year of like, my issue right now is just like because he definitely is in that spot where I don't know I guess I always just end up reverting back to the take of like Tom Brady ruined our idea of what a quarterback should be but at the same time like at the same time yeah Justin Herbert has now been around long enough where like if he is actually the guy then like it shouldn't matter who he has, which like, yeah, Herbert is the guy.

He is that guy. Like, he is that motherfucker. He's a bad, he's a bad man. But he should have, like, you look at a guy like Josh Allen, right? Like, yeah, he hasn't had a lot of postseason success, but he's gone pretty damn close for not having the greatest receiving room. Like, yeah, he has Stefan Diggs, but who's there behind him? You know what I mean? Yeah.

Um, Patrick Mahomes last couple years. Like, his best receiver is Rishi Rice some years if he's around, um, outside of like the first couple years with Tyreek, obviously. But then he doesn't have Tyreek and he's basically doing the same shit that Brady did, right? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Like, these guys are at least like making runs. Like Herbert has yet to make a run. and we can make up the excuses all we want.

Like, yeah, his O line was being a bad at last year. Is this and that? His O line wasn't around the year before. Quinn Johnson's a bum. He's got brick hands. Quinn Johnson is now starting to come into his own. McConnor is now a certified wide receiver one. This has to be it.

This has to be it. I mean, I would think, right, especially now that you give him a real offensive coordinator or not that loser Greg Roman who you know is a OC right out of the early 2000s like looking at probably 2000 itself and yet still couldn't figure out a forward pass so you know but I do for what it's worth

I do think Jim Harbaugh is a very good coach yeah so when you have that all those weapons a healthy line and a healthy defense please chargers can you do something because I'm not a lie. That title, you know, the moniker of if man. Yeah, that's looking pretty permanent right now. Yeah. Yeah. And it's unfortunate. Like, I do think Justin Herbert can be that is that guy and can be that guy that guy that takes you on a big run. But yeah, that's all I really have for you at this rate because I'm just going to start repeating myself.

All right. anything else in regards to in joku no not really um i guess ending on a bit of a lighter thing uh adrian peterson uh to be named in the vikings ring of honor good for him obviously he's one of the greatest running backs of all time definitely top ten uh best vikings running back of all time by far that that that just makes sense um also uh another ring of honor slash t Hall of Fame news, New England's putting Rob Grankowski in theirs. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was, they made that news a couple weeks ago, right? I know, but I'm just saying we didn't talk about it. Yeah, which. May Adrian Peterson deserves it?

You know, he was, I mean, you got to remember, like, he tore his ACL and came back and then what, rushed for 2,000 yards and won MVP? Something like that, yeah. He won MVP. Huh? He won MVP after their ACL tear. That's all, man. That's all you need to say.

He was, that man could just absolutely beat up on defenses. It was insane. Yeah. A lot of people like to switch up because, you know, once he left, yeah, we went to like the saints and then the Cardinals,

I think like the Titans or the Lions. That was weird. But, man, Prime Adrian Peterson, a lot of people, they just don't know. Dude, for real. He was a problem.

He's also fifth all, time in rushing yards and touchdowns. That's insane. Insane. Unfortunately, unfortunately, I was afraid that the assault charge that he got on his son back in 2014

when he was put on the commissioner's exemplist, he was able to avoid jail time and a felony conviction, but it was also suspended for six games as well during that time. I was afraid that that would be brought to lay in or

be a shadow over himself and kind of hold him from being a Hall of Famer or Ring of Honor guy for that matter, but here we are. We're talking about Adrian Peterson being in the Vikings ring of honor

come to fall. Yeah. So yeah. induction induction will come one year before Peterson is eligible for election to the pro football

Hall of Fame. Hey, I mean, makes sense. Yeah. I wonder what this year's Hall of Fame class is going to be. It should be good, right? Remember I saw something about

what this year's Hall of Fame class. I thought they announced it already. No, or who's eligible, I mean. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's that's coming. at the Hall of Fame game, right? Yeah.

That's right. No, no, no, no. Well, we know who's making the hall. We're just going to get their busts. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, like, who's going to be eligible for, or first time eligibility for next year? Yeah.

Okay. You bring up the Gronk Hall of Fame, Pat's Hall of Fame thing. One thing that has been kind of grinding my gears is that there's so many guys from that original dynasty that still aren't in the Patriots Hall of Fame because it's only one a year

and the one time they ever did too was when Robert Kraft got impatient and wanted to jam in Bill Parcells well yeah that's what I mean is like they only do it one one player a year it's like dude like at like by a time we get to like Vinatari

maybe he's probably gonna be fucking dead or like at this rate yeah you know what I mean like Ronk made it in over Vinuterry and Logan Menkins and they're both worthy. I do have a solution though. Don't worry. Bring up, I don't know how many people say six and have the top three get in. Okay.

I'm hip for that. One a year. And you got to remember they did bend the rules so Brady could get in, which that makes sense. Of course, it's Tom Brady. So, yeah, like, I got that, but still. Yeah. Who's in the Pats Hall of Fame? I think Jules got in.

I don't. Let's see. Let's see. Oh, do you want to hear the, yeah. So Mankins and Venturi were the finalists for this year, as you mentioned. I'm clicking on the wrong thing right now. Oh, doing. Ah, here we go.

I think I got it here. Oh, did you? So we got, so Bronk just made it in, and I'm working backwards. Julian Edelman, Bill Parcells, Tom Brady, Dante Scarnacia, Mike Vrable, Vince Wilfork, Tracy Sormante. I think she was a cheerleading director. Yeah. Richard Seymour, Rodney Harrison, Leon Gray, Matt Light, Raymond Claiborne, Kevin Falk, Willie McGuin, Houston, Antoine, Ty Law, Teddy Bruske, Gil Santos, Troy Brown, John Morris, Drew Bledso, Sam Cunningham, Jim Nance, Billy Sullivan, Ben Coates, Stanley Morgan, Bruce Armstrong, Andre Tippett, Steve Grogan, Mike Haynes, Babe Pirelli, Steve Nelson, Jim Lee Hunt, Bob D, Nick Bionicante, Gino Capoletti, and John Hanna.

Shout out Gil Santos and Gino Capoletti. rest in peace, Gil Santos. But for those that don't know, most likely don't know, Gil Santos was the Patriots radio commentator for like the longest fucking time. And then 2013 hit. And then they went to, uh,

uh, uh, it's Bob Soci now, right? Yeah, Sochi and, uh, what's his fucking name? What's his fucking name? Why am I blank?

Or commentator. It's Zolak, right? Yeah, Zolak. Why couldn't I think of Zolak? How do I forget? How do I not think of Zos name? What the hell? Dude, I don't even know, like, New England radio like that.

And I knew that. Yeah. Come on, man. Yeah. No, there's, there's just, yeah, there's just so many names that still haven't been thrown in to only do one a year at the end, like, maybe a two a year on a blue moon's notice. but like you got it you we need to start like if you if you want to start kind of back down to one once we're once we get out of this lull of like all right like all the big time guys from the original dynasty and like because at some point we then have to start thinking about the guys from the second dynasty and that's gonna like by a time we get there like guys are going to be in their 70s like yeah we got a we got a we got a start picking things up here.

I know what you mean. Yeah. Because from the second dynasty, you try to assume you mean are the second three Super Bowls. I mean, I would imagine you would have to have guys like Stefan Gilmore, Dante Hightower. High Tower was actually the first name I was thinking of. Yeah.

McCordy. I mean, Jules just got in. James White. James White. The legend himself, Matthew Slater. Slater Andrews Probably you could argue

Joe Tuny Shaq Mason There's a lot Of motherfuckers That are going to have to get put in In the next 30 years And there is not 30 guys And

There's probably more than 30 guys That we can name That needs to get put in Like Josh McDaniels Oh yeah True To get put in at some point Like

Bill Belichick of course Belichick yep Matt Patricia honestly too I mean I know we don't like but like you could throw a ton of dudes from that coaching staff in there Oh running back coach Ivan Fears

I was just thinking of fears yep There's a lot Yeah Like Yeah And And we're 20 years Away like out from

the OG 3 Super Bowls and we're And even the OG 3 There are other coaches too Like Romeo Crenel He definitely deserves it Cronnell Um

Maybe What Charlie Weiss Charlie Weiss Yeah 100% Charlie Weiss Fucking lawyer Malloy Um

Even though You should argue Samuel too He was Yeah so Dudes Like even I don't know if I said Troy Brown

but he definitely deserves it. Yeah, like even the guys that didn't even win a ring with us. Like, there's so many dudes that didn't even win a rank. Like, fucking, you could even throw Randy fucking Moss in there. Sheet, like. Welker. Wes Welker, even though he probably wouldn't accept it because he like, lo-key hates Kraft and Belichick, but like.

Wait, why does he hate us? How do you hate them now? I didn't hear that. I think he mainly just never really liked Belichick, but. Well, cool, buddy. That's cool, West. Catch passes in the Super Bowl and maybe we can talk. Yeah.

Him and Amadola, both. Yeah, I know. Amindola has been running his mouth, and it's funny. Here's the Amidola knows he shouldn't be saying that because whenever he's on Julian Edelman's podcast, Jules and Grong go like rip him apart over it. Oh, yeah. But yeah, fun times. We didn't mean for this to turn to a Patriots podcast.

Yeah, apologies for that. It's late. We're both tired. It's not even being tired. It's like now we're... It's not even being tired for me. I'm just like, now I'm getting riled up. Now I'm getting riled up.

Let's talk about the Red Sox. No, no. Put that energy toward immaculate grid, if anything. I'm down. I'm down for that. Let's see what the immaculate grid looks like today. Yeah, I'm probably just going to punt. my fucking face out over this now.

I'm okay. Can I see it or am I? Yeah, yeah. I'm sharing it right now. Tuck and I were like punching, we're just kicking ourselves. Oh, this is gross. Okay, you know what?

We're in this together. Jets and Browns, that safety they drafted from Louisville, Calvin Pryor, off the rip. Yeah. I like that. What? What?

Did he not make the team? What? Yeah, he must have not made the team. That is Stevie Johnson. I didn't say what I was about to say, but just know I was thinking it. Chris, you know him,

you know good and damn well what I was about to blame for this. Yes. Stevie Johnson, Jets, Bills. Yeah, is it obvious though, or no? I don't think he's, no. Wait, what about I K&M. Collie?

He was the guy that broke Gino Smith's jaw. Oh, wait. Did he play for the bills, too? I'm pretty sure. he did. Plus, you could also do they had this one offensive line that they drafted from the same class. Let's just go with the guy that broke Gino

Smith's job. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was on the bills. He followed Rex Ryan there. IK. Space. E. Oh, nice, 2%. Mm-hmm. Good, Paul.

I wonder what Steve is. You will never forget the man who broke Gina says, Joe. I really do wonder what Stevie Johnson would have gone. Maybe I'll log into a different tab and see what it would have been. Or actually, CJ, you'll log into a tab and wait until it down, actually. All right, Jets Titans. Did Dexter McCluster ever play for the Jets?

I don't think so. Dang it. It does feel like a team he would play for, though. It does, it does. Because he went from, he went chiefs, and then like titans and then was kind of just like shifting around um what about that receiver there's a receiver who went to william and mary i cannot remember his name but i feel like he also might have played for the jets that he played he was drafted i think by the titans i don't remember

now you're talking about corbett no no no no no he was like 2014 2015 i got error oh oh He went to William and Mary. I think he was after the Titans. Something McBride? I don't even know. I didn't leave this team. It sounds familiar. Trey McBride.

Yeah, that's him. TRI. No. No, I'm sorry. I am fumbling hard. Hey, you know what? We're throwing names out of walls, see what sticks. You know, we weren't expected much.

Our first mistake is that we haven't hit this. Yeah. All right. what do you want to do there? I think he could go with Isaiah Crowell. I think he got a thousand yards once. I was going to go Pete and Hillis just for the memes. What about Ernest Biner?

Ooh, Ernest Biner. Oh, ooh. Yes, Ernest Biner. I'm just going to put it in his last name because I don't know. I was, yeah, 4%. Titans. Biner. Most known for Fumbling it at the Lentonetting.

Ernst Biner, most known for fumbling it at the last. one yard line. Yeah. I wonder if... All I know for the Titans, you got CJ2K, you got Derek Henry, Earl Campbell,

Eddie George. That's all I got right now. Yeah, it'd probably be the same thing for me. You want to just go with Eddie George? He's probably the least known of the three, which is a, which is blasphemy.

We can also go Tony Pollard. Yeah, but is he, how much is the recency bias going to play a factor here though. You're right. And there probably isn't a lot either. I mean, there probably is like some from pre-Campbell.

But Carl Campbell is as far back as I go, because like I said, it's him Eddie George, CJ2K, and Derek Henry. Let's go, Eddie George. Eddie George could be the one that people don't think about. Yeah. Shout up Blaine Bishop. 19%. Gross. I'm sorry. I'm

selling here, guys. I mean, like, there's not really many other guesses at that. The bills, you know who I'm thinking of. Are you thinking of a specific running back from the early 2010s, not named Marciaun Lynch? Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm thinking of someone else. You're thinking of OJ? Yeah. And look, let's be real, okay? We all know OJ Simpson's known for. He ran for 2,000 yards and 14 games, Chris. I was about to say he ran for 2,000 yards of 14 games. And that's it.

I think that's the most obvious one you can go for. Yeah, obviously. That's why anyone knows them. 2,000 yards and 14 games, which all jokes aside, that's like, that's nuts. That's ridiculous. That's disgusting. He was a killer, man. For real.

Absolute beast. Yeah, what kind of that was it? We got OJ, Beast mode, James Cook, like. Shaney McCoy? C.J. Spiller. Wait, did C.J. Spillel? ever hit a K though? I feel like he did.

I'm thinking of another one. Are you kind of iffy in the league? No, I'm thinking of another one that was also with Spiller. I can't think of his name for the life of me, though. I know who you're talking about. I don't know if he ever got it, if he ever got there, though. What was his name? I say, I know you're thinking of.

I don't remember his name, though. Oh, all right. I guess I'm going to look up his name because it's going to kill. Oh, well, it count. Oh, I mean, it doesn't count. I mean, because if you don't see the stats, then it doesn't. I mean, it doesn't... Well, like, I don't need to know...

My thing is that I know this guy's hit a thousand. It's a matter of if I can remember his name. That's my issue. Let's go history. I don't know. I guess I'll hit this. Oh, let's just... Fred Jackson, that's what I'm thinking of.

Oh, Fred Jackson. Yeah, you could. do that. Thurman Thomas is also one. Yeah, I'll just go Fred. What about that do they have back in the day? Willis McGahey.

Oh, I forgot about Willis McGahey. Let's go Wilson McGahey. We haven't. I want to go back to that Fred. Taylor.

Fred Taylor thing. Willows McKayee 3%. Nice. Um, what's this fucking name? Um, the bus. Oh, Trent Richardson.

Yeah. He could go Barquevius Mingo as well. Also, I think Jabal Sheared. Yeah, Jabal Shield. Jeal Shield. Sheared. Sheared. Okay.

Jabal Shear. Patriots legend, Jabal Sheared. Yeah. No, two A's or after the B. There we go. How? How is that point? Patriots legend, Jabal Sheared, man. Shit.

And you know, Trent Richardson's probably going to be the most well-known, unironically. Colts and Titans, obviously the obvious ones like Andre Johnson. Yeah, I was going to say I would love to have, I'd love to have Blaine Bishop with us right now for this one. Oh, you would know. I wish, part of me wishes Blaine played for like, at least one. other team outside of like the Titans and the Eagles because boy

that would be like that that would be a cheat code for us and us. Yeah. Well next time we get Titans Eagles we got to put it there. Oh yeah. I mean we we've done it already but well we already fucked it

and to be honest Tuck and I fucked it in the last one too. Yeah we got to have three minds on this you know three minds better than one. What about that quarterback for this is. Oh, Kerry Collins? No, this is Bill's

Colts. Oh, Bill's Colts. I was thinking about Kelly Holcomb. Yes, Kelly Holcomb. Because I'm pretty sure he played for the bills. Point six.

Yeah, he definitely played for the bills. I didn't really know if he had actually played for the Colts or not. Should we just go carry here? We could. I just, I don't know. He's one.

I know Matt Hasselbeck did. but is he that obvious? I would go Matt Hasselback because we kind of really screwed it up. 23. Oh, sorry. That's fine. As far as Browns and Titans,

wait, not Browns and Titans. Wow, I meant Browns and Jets. Who would do such a thing to themselves to play for those two teams? Joe Flacco, obviously, he's obvious. Let's just go Flacco for the mean. just to get through it. I think Breshaup Heron might have.

21% on Flacco. Oh, Dan, I just realized Terrell Prior. Oh, Trel Prior would have been a really good one. Yeah, they gave us the real bottom feeders today for teams. Good. Yeah. Good God. All I can think of for the Jets and the Titans,

that tight end the Jets had for a bit, Jay Somaro. They drafted him the second round. maybe I don't know yep what was he oh oh oh

hey we will never forget the i think he was part of that draft class yeah all right you know what the idick 12 chris

what do you know about the idzik 12 if you're a jets fan cover your ears yeah back in i think it was 2014 the new york jets had 12 draft picks and they whiffed on

every single one damn And the only one that was even halfway decent was Quincy and Noonwa and he couldn't stay healthy. Then they had this other lineman that was the one that I couldn't think of from earlier who was like a solid depth piece. And like that was it. Everything was just garbage. And I think that actually got Edzick fired because he went 0 for 12. Bricks.

I hate to see that. Not a Pat's fan. So I find it funny. 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. 18, 19, 20. What are you doing? I'm counting right now. Because I wanted to see

who else would have been in this thousand yard area for the Titans. So Tony Pollard, by the way, back to back 1K. The Titans since the Titans turned into, went to Tennessee

in 1997. They've had 23,000. 23,000 yard rushers. Good gravy. Would you like to name them all? No, I would not. I think you would. No, I don't want to.

Well, it's Tony Pollard, Derek Henry, C.J. 2K. I can't name all 20, whatever. Eddie George. Uh-huh. DeMarco Murray. Oh, yeah. I forgot about him. Do you remember the other half of Thunder and Lightning from USC?

He was Reggie Bush's... Yeah, I know. It was Reggie Bush and... Lendale White. Oh, my God. I forgot that... I forgot he went to Tennessee with Vince Young. I forgot about that.

Travis Henry and Chris Brown, or the other two. Chris Brown took over the leadback roll over, Eddie George. Any day to... Rihanna too. No, I'm joking. It's a different, Chris Brown. Yeah. Good. Nice. Great, great pull. Great pull. I'm sorry. Anyways.

So, let's see the percentages on this. Wow, 48% on Colts Titans. Who was the most obvious one for that? I imagine it's Andre Johnson. If it was Matt Hasselbeck, I'm going to be pissed. Andre. Okay, good, it was Andre Johnson. Yeah. Trent Richardson, unironically was going to be the most

obvious Colt Brown that's funny that is funny I wonder who else would have been a thousand yard who else has been a thousand yard rusher outside and Nick Chubb I think Isaiah Crowell did it once

I think Eric McCaff probably did it Jim Brown obviously Ernest Beiner only did it once that's kind of wild they had 2,000 yard rushers that year too and 85. Both of them 23 years old and both of them

didn't rush for a thousand for the Browns after that. Was it Eric McCaff or Huh? Was it Eric McCaff the other one or no? No, Kevin Mack. Yeah. Jamal Lewis, remember him? He used to play for the Browns too.

Oh, yeah. Peyton Hillis, most random most random thousand-yard rush for the most random ass Madden cover um Leroy Kelly that's a fucking football name

if I've ever heard one uh Gric Pruitt Mike Pruitt brothers cousins I don't know Rubin drones

that's another random ass that I was near a rusher and yeah about Jim Brown look at 1000 1,8663 yards and 14 games.

Not 2K though. No. Not 2K. He doesn't have that juice. You didn't add that juice in them. Come on now. Shitting me. All right.

That is, that's the show. Anything else? No, I'm all good over here. Cool. Ended up turning into a long one. How about that?

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