The Fumblerooski Podcast - Rolling the Dice -Ep 264 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 20, 2024

In this edition of The Fumblerooski Podcast, we go through our diamonds in the rough and our red flags for the NFL Draft. We are 5 days away! What players do you want your team to go get that could be a huge steal, and who do you want your team to stray away from? Chris Costich and the Draft Guy CJ Medeiros (mostly CJ) talk about all of this and more!

five days until the NFL draft. This episode, we'll go over our NFL draft busts and our NFL draft steals. You're listening to the fumble whiskey podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.

He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. You are listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Chris Kostic. Alongside me, CJ Medeiros. We apologize again for the episode delay, of course. Got a lot of busy schedules on our hands,

especially with the draft coming up. Got to make sure that we got everything that we need for the draft. And today we go into our potential NFL draft bus and NFL draft steals five days away from the 2024 NFL draft. And a quick moment real quick. Want to thank everyone for 10,000 followers on Instagram, all 10,000 of you. We love you and whatnot.

And then everyone else that subscribes to us on YouTube and follows us on tick tock and all the social platforms. So just want to give a quick shout out to all the supporters out there nonetheless move on to our first one potential nfl draft busts so cj mr draft guy so we're we decided one per position so we'll go quarterback running back receiver tight end o-line d-line linebacker and secondary so i'll leave it up to you mr medeiros all right so uh we are going to start with the quarterback and uh just as a general rule all right just hear me out. I want to avoid like some of the top dogs. You know what I mean?

Like the top three in each position. That's a given. So for these quarterbacks, we all know that it's Williams, May, Daniels, McCarthy, Penix, Jr., and Nix, right? We all know that. So I'm not going to beat a dead horse and talk about any of them. We've done that already. But for a quarterback who could be a potential draft bust, there is one I want to talk about. And this one hurts me because he's a very fun guy to watch, but I'm talking about Tennessee's Joe Milton. And I do not want to talk about him like this,

because he's 6'5", 235, running a 4'6", 340, with the best arm in the draft. That's the thing. This man just... Think about the video game, Matt, and this man as a rookie is going to have 99 throwing power because this guy like anywhere.

Merrimah Holmes threw the ball over the stadium. Milton's going to do that too. You know, he's a scrambler. He's a big guy. He can run. It seems like he can do it all. But, oh, my God.

Everyone sees that, and they love it. And, like I said, he's fun to watch, especially in Tennessee. But when you look at his arm strength and then you compare it to his accuracy, it's like a child with a fire hose. You know what I mean? You all know how fire hoses work. Imagine you give that to like a five-year-old and just watch him fly around.

Yeah, that's what it is. This man's the definition of, F it, my receiver one's down here somewhere. And he just keeps overshooting guys. I know what say oh but you know you can tweak it every time he tries to tweak it it results in an under throw and he just puts so much mustard on the ball it just he misses wide open guys like it's nuts also this is a running theme with a lot of these rookies he's 24 i don't know what it is with these old quarterbacks in this class probably due to the covid times where our brilliant decision makers foisted lockdowns upon us for some reason and i just i don't know these older prospects

sometimes can make me raise a bit of an eyebrow it's not the end of the world but it might nick a bit of his longevity off the top and a lot of it too is uh just reading the defense because in college when you're there, you're making these spectacular throws. They can bail you out. In the NFL, though, that's not going to carry as much water. You know, when you're zigzagging out there and you're just yeeting the ball down the field, well, ask Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl against Tampa Bay how that works out for you. And whenever they bring blitz, he just goes completely paranoid and just chucks it into coverage. So the decision-making, the accuracy, and literally just reading a defense are things that he's going to have to vastly improve upon,

which sucks because in college he was fun fun like one of the most fun quarterbacks to watch but we have to be honest with ourselves and some people say he's the number seven guy after you know like nicks or pennix i say absolutely not i personally don't even have in my top 10 he's probably like number 12 so what do you think, Chris? I mean, yeah, you got, I think you hit on everything really. And it, you know, this Milton's a really good athlete. And in terms of all the measurables of athleticism, he's in the 80th percentile for pretty much every single one. And yeah, looking at this right now, it's just he's projected to be a six-round pick. It just doesn't – he's going to be one of those guys that, you know,

he was a fun guy to watch in college, but he's not going to do much in the league, in my opinion. I think that's pretty self-explanatory. And moving on to the running back position. This is not a very deep running back class, and I'll be one of the first ones to tell you that. So you could just attack really any prospect for anything. But there is one guy who's considered a top five back here that i just don't see

and that is audrick estame of notre dame now he's a youngin he is just 20 years old he's you know 5 10 or 5 I think, 221 pounds. That's good. But this man is just not fast. He's not even quick. The agility, the speed are just not there. And which is weird. They say, oh, he's the workhorse back like Derrick Henry. I'm like, yeah, but Derrick Henry can fly.

This guy can't. He runs a 4'7", 140. And look, don't get me wrong. He's the power back's power back. He's going to muscle you down. He can, you know, he's good with balance. He can lurch forward. He fights for the extra yards. But if he breaks into the open field, he's going to be quick to catch up to because he just doesn't have that second wind in him, the extra gear, as it were, to take the ball and just break away to the house. And this is something that a few people have said, draft analysts, and it's on NFLDraftBuzz.com right now.

It's the way he runs in the nfl audrick estime is going to complete needs to completely rework how he just runs does that make sense oh no it completely makes sense and on top of that, too, he's just his accelerate is bursting. You talk about his breakaway speed and, you know, he's got a slow 40 and whatnot. But the big thing, too, is that he doesn't really have a lot of good acceleration either. So he is not able to even really get himself to that top speed as quick as he should be. Yeah. And so here's the thing right he's a one-trick pony as well now in the nfl you and i both know this we're moved we're in the era of positionless football

and yet despite this he's not really a three down back he's not really a pass catcher like at all and worse yet despite the fact he's the power back's power back he uh has a bit of a fumbling problem so if you have andre kestame your top five running backs i have a question why Why? Yeah, just he's probably if he does get somewhere in the league, I would expect him to be more of your short, your short distance running back your goal line running back. The guy that you could probably rely on to get like three or four yards when you need them to. But if you're going to expect them to be a high flyer, it's just not there.

Yep. And now we're moving on to the wide receiver spot. You know, I said I wasn't going to really talk about some of the top 10 guys, but I can't help it. Keon Coleman. Oh, we already crapped on Keon Coleman so much. We haven't done it nearly enough. He is Nikhil Harry.

All right. You know what? Fine. Then we won. No, no. If you want to, if you want to go on a huge Keon Coleman spiel again, you definitely can. We just went on and on about him like three episodes ago. Yeah, true.

You know what? Fine. But you know what? He's just an honorable mention then because all I'm going to say on him is this. All right? Just hear me out. You know, at the tail end of the NFL season, he was the wide receiver two on most draft boards. And as it sits now, the highest that I see him is like,

that I've seen him in most people's rankings is five. And it's getting to a point where I genuinely don't see him getting drafted in the first round. But as for somebody who I'm not entirely sure you should draft well um which is weird because he's a national champion but roman wilson out of michigan makes me raise the eyebrow a little bit and don't get me wrong this guy is the complete opposite of the one we just talked about, Audrick Estime. Wilson is fast. He's agile. He's got the second gear. He can do it all.

He's 5'11", 185. That's a bit of a concern because he might get folded like that at the next level. He runs a sub 4'4", 40. He's got a slightly above four-second shuttle drill. So, you know, this guy, he's pretty good, you know, as far as speed goes. But that's pretty much it.

And when you look at his frame, you can probably assume, right, that his blocking isn't exactly great. And that's the thing. And I think you mentioned this a bit ago, or maybe it was Adam, that this day and age, the NFL wide receivers have to go, I got to be able to throw a shoulder. You got to be able to just chip a guy. He's not going to.

He's going to get pancaked by these corners. Never mind like pancaked. I wouldn't even say pancaked. It's more just like the corners are just more shifty and more athletic in general. That if you don't even throw, because I think it was me that made the point. In this day and age, you're seeing a lot more smaller stature corners like sauce. Sauce is one that comes to mind the most for me. I'm trying to think of other ones too,

but Jalen Ramsey is shorter one as well. But these are guys that are very athletic, very good. So if you can't throw it, like you said, if you can't throw a shoulder on him at the very least, or at least show some sort of aggression then you're gonna get beat which is the point that i made about keon coleman with all his size but he lacks

the aggression for good run blocking ability true i mean you got that right and uh so beyond just the physical frame actually no i lie let's keep talking about that because he's so slight to the point where it hinders his ability to break tackles because as soon as the defender just gets a finger on him it's basically over and it's shown in his yards after a catch and run after contact ability you know what i mean yeah or it's like as soon as he's touched like it just the numbers just don't lie as soon as he's hit like he does not break tackles he doesn't get that second wind after getting hit it's just gone now here's the thing too here's the thing too he's gonna make the catch like his qbr rating when

target is 139.5 he's going to make the catch but as you said he's not gonna be able to make the catch like his qbr rating when target is 139.5 he's going to make the catch but as you said he's not going to be able to break the tackle so he can get that extra five yards exactly and when it comes to getting the extra five yards this is another scenario of where he does something in college that you can't get away with in the pro league there. He very much relies on his speed, and speed kills in the NFL. But if you are a one-trick pony, teams are going to figure you out fast. His route running is below average. His footwork is weird and choppy with a lot of wasted motion.

It's like you can't just be fast. You have to be able to sell your routes. So that's basically what I say about Roman Wilson. If you take him in the third round, he's going to be fine. But there are some people that would say, you know, he's a top 10 wide receiver. It's like, hmm, I would think he's good, but I hesitate to top to throw him in the top 10 maybe like number 10 at most yeah this is also a guy that you're probably gonna have to really you're gonna have to put it like in his chest he doesn't have a huge wingspan it's like ninth percentile like

like 72 and two eighths it it's bad so you kind of this is a guy that you're gonna have to really put it in his chest because if you put it too far outside then he's not going to come down with it at all yeah and then of course we got the tight end and who could forget ade stover from the ohio state university you you folk watching probably already know how i feel about these tight ends i'm not a fan there's no more blocking there's no physicality they're basically just receivers having receivers at all but he's a little light for a tight end you know being sub 250 he's uh you know six four so he's got like decent height to him he's a little light for a tight end, you know, being sub 250. He's, you know, 6'4", so he's got, like, decent height to him. He runs a sub 4'7", 40. That's good.

But he's another one where he's basically just a wide receiver. I mean, you know, he's agile. He's fast. He's got good hands. And he – but that's great. But here's the thing. Once again, he does not block. And it's not just that he doesn't block.

It's that he can. His blocking skills are just not there. And just when it comes to his routes, he's another one that relies on his speed which he has so much speed isn't great it's better than average but it's not something you can rely on in the pros if you're him and as a result so if you're not the fastest then it's got to be your route running right i believe that that's what uh is that something i believe that steve smith senior once said you know i'm not overly fast but my route run is gonna kill you yeah it's that same thing where it's like where if you are not the fastest guy your route running has to be pristine

and it's just not for him and here's here's my thing about kate stover though is that this is a guy that also was originally recruited as a linebacker and transition to defensive end before his freshman season and then went from tight end to linebacker 2020 to 2021 and then went back to being a full-time tight end so the problem i mean all the stuff that you've laid out makes sense. But the problem is it's just the lack, and this is all due to the lack of him being on offense and playing on one specific side of the ball,

which for his position is the offensive side of the ball. Yeah. So that's your big weakness there is lacking the offensive mindset probably. Yeah, it's just these things with – it's just experience. I mean, it's literally just basic experience that he needs. And that is – some people would say he's a top three tight end right now. I wouldn't say that. I i mean just based on his attributes alone he's probably like my fourth because i would probably put theo johnson from penn state over

him but that's just me yeah and it's not to say that like he won't or shouldn't have done well it's the problem is like when you when you're recruited as at one spot for so long and then you probably like not to say that he probably didn't play tight end in high school or on the offensive side of the football in high school but you know you get recruited as at one spot and maybe his high school was big enough where he was able to only play one side of the football and that's really it i mean a lot of high schools you do play both sides of the ball and whatnot but that's a whole different story he probably played one side of the football his entire career now he's got to play or his entire life and now he's got to play on the other side of the football all of a sudden. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. Now we're moving on to O-line. Now O-line are probably the toughest to grade because there's not really many stats that can truly tell you whether or not they're good. It's more of an eye testing, and it just depends on what you prefer. But there's one guy that I'm probably not as high on as most, and that is the Oklahoma offensive tackle Tyler Guyton. And I'm going to break my own rules slightly here and say I don't talk about potential first-rounders,

but I kind of have to here. So the thing with Guyton is that this is a massive lineman. 6'8", 322, 10.5-inch hands, runs a, we'll call it a 5'2", 40, with a vertical jump of 34. That is very very very good and i think he's in like the 83rd percentile for three cone yeah a third so or is it the other way around i don't know so so that's good right that's all well and good but he's another one stop me if you've heard this before who relies on one thing this just being his frame and he just he this is something you can coach out of him i'll grant you

but he plays too tall and when it's like cool if you're bigger than most defenders but if they get under your pads it's over what do they say in football especially in the trenches the low man wins low man wins yeah and just the way he uses his hand and placement at and just like the grappling that you do it leaves a lot to be desired he's not i mean he's fast but he's not quick you know i mean he's got good straight line speed but he's not agile so he's not gonna be you know jumping from side to side to hook a uh edge rusher or something and he's not the most experienced starter i think he's got one season under his belt total. So that's worrying. And there's one more thing. His run blocking is not very good. This guy is just an A-plus pass blocker. But if you are a run-first football team, I would probably not draft him.

Now, obviously, once again, for all these guys, it just depends on the scheme they go into. But, for example, I saw a Patriots mock draft where they had him taking him. For the Patriots, I think you would argue are more of a run-first, hard-nosed kind of team. They're setting up to be more of a run-first team or run-oriented team. Exactly. So I wouldn't take him because this man cannot run block.

Where do you stand, Chris? I would have to agree with that, all that. And one of the other big things, too, is he doesn't have a lot of collegiate experience. He only played 26 games. So do the math. That's two seasons of college football right there. I mean, that gets you far enough sometimes, but it's not like he was a full fledged starter all the way through his career. I mean, it's one thing if he had 26 college football games and he was an absolute he was absolutely wrecking people and whatnot.

But it it just doesn't seem that way so now remember the defensive side of the ball with d lineman and edge rushers now here's a guy i have a lot of hatemanship with that is uh wyoming's marshawn Neeland. Now, Neeland, I believe, is a, he can do well. Don't get me wrong, okay? This guy can do well. Like, don't, do not get it twisted. But once again, it's just a matter of, I know this happens to a lot of people,

but of just going to the right scheme. You know what I mean? Because if he goes to a place that doesn't fit him, he's not one of those guys that can thrive in any kind of scheme. The size and the frame are good. He's a high motor guy. He's got good strength. And he's just a good power guy, like a bull rusher.

That's great. But he's not an athlete, if that makes sense. I mean, he's athletic, but he's not that physical freak that you want terrorizing quarterbacks on the edge. His movements are not very fast. I wouldn't even describe him as quick or agile he's just he's powerful but he's slower you know what i mean the burst and the yeah that's there's no in his game like the first off the line that you're looking for in like a tj what type of guy and while the bull rush is good what can you do beyond that can you be more than a one trick pony because the technique you know you have your spin moves your swim moves just using your hands uh he doesn't really do that he just kind of pushes you know the bull rush but

he's not gonna chop your arm down you know he's not gonna do any swim moves no and it's just and i touched on this earlier the agility just like the bend you know just like moving your body to get around the guys it's not there he's very rigid so once again he's a strict bull rush guy there's no no bend. There's no agility. There's not really anything just beyond strength. And I think a good coach could turn him into a very, very, very, very formidable weapon. But if he doesn't go to a defensive oriented team, I don't know what to tell you. All right, linebackers. This is just a weird, just a very bizarre linebacker class.

And you've heard us say on the show when we were doing our linebacker talk that it just, how do I put this? It's not a very exciting class. And frankly, I don't see really any of these guys going round oneer in this draft i'm less high on him if that makes sense that is a north carolina's cedric Gray. So obviously, you know, the size, you know, PLC is undersized for a linebacker, but in this day and age, that doesn't really matter as much because they're supposed to be smaller, faster, more coverage oriented. That's the thing.

He's a cover guy. That's good. You know, speed, he can sit in the zone. He's a good film room guy. But the physicality isn't there because granted coverage is good, but if someone catches the ball, you've got to make the tackles. And his resume is littered with missed tackles and broken tackles. He's also a very gullible defender, as in these rapid head movements. Like, if I turn my

head that way, he's just going to go that way. Or I could juke him out easily. Not saying I could. I obviously can't. But, you know, like, if you're a player, it's the royal eye. Or it's like the missed tackles, the broken tackles. He's a big arm tackle guy. You know, that's an issue. And let's just say you call the blitz. He's not a good pass rusher. He gets stuck on his blocks. And one thing I feel like might be more of like just how his frame is too. He gets stuck on like these larger offensive linemen.

He's got a high motor, but he over pursues. And once once he like locks on something that means if it's like a trick play the actual like location of the ball can fly right under his nose and i say he's a good cover guy but he's a good zone guy i mentioned he could just turn around and just sit in the zone man coverage tends to be a little more iffy I mean I still think he's a top 10 linebacker in this draft some people have him like three four five I'd probably put him like seven yeah and the big thing with this is I you've pretty much said it too it's the over pursuing he's just too aggressive on a lot of plays and especially if you're going to be a linebacker in the NFL you got to be able to make the open field tackles and that's something he lacks a lot and one of the big weaknesses that he has is early gap abandonment you as a linebacker it's you got to be able to fill the gaps and be

able to do it in a timely manner if you just see something and you're like all right gap's not there i gotta go over here and then all of a sudden the play is right there where the in the gap that you should have been in i don't i don't know how you can trust a linebacker to abandon your assignment like that yeah yeah i agree i agree so corner now i'm fond of most of these guys and i have to pick somebody this doesn't mean i would say avoid avoid avoid this is something i'd be like hey don't unless he fits your scheme like don't draft him like don't try to force a square peg into a round hole. You know what I mean? This is tough because I like him personally, but he does have a few red flags. That's Ennis Raikstra Jr. out of Missouri. Raikstra is an interesting one. He's a film room junkie.

His instincts and just his strategy as a corner, it's next level. He's elite in man coverage. He sticks to his guy like glue. He's got remarkable twitch, remarkable agility. And he can just fly around the field. But when I say fly, I mean that he's got twitch in his game you know what i mean but we have said before there's a difference between being fast and being quick he's he's quick but he's not fast he runs a 45 140 which is weird

concerning the fact he's not even 190. And when you couple that with a lighter frame, that could be weird. And he's... Remember what I said about the Lyman-Guyton? Right? Yeah. About how he has...

He's a one-trick pony, basically, in the sense that he can pass block but not run block yeah kind of the same thing for rake straw because he cannot play his own coverage so if you're going to like a zone heavy defensive scheme he could very well struggle out of the gate and when i said he could stick to his guy like glue that's because he's a man cover guy if you are a primarily zone scheme you cannot draft rake straw he needs to go somewhere obviously where he can flourish and just his very poor zone coverage makes me a little nervous nervous and there is just one more thing despite the fact he's good at man coverage the stats don't lie he's not a ball hawk and in today's nfl you got to be a playmaker on the

defensive side of the ball too getting these acrobatic knockdowns and these acrobatic interceptions he had four knockdowns or passes defense last year. But, no, I don't think he had any picks. And if you're not going to be the guy that's going to go up and grab the highlight reel pick, I mean, granted, we like to mock guys like Trayvon Diggs who will grab a pick and on the very next series get burned for a 50-yard touchdown. But, you know what I mean? But it's kind of the opposite

of that where he's just not really gonna make the plays he's not a very exciting player and these days flash does tend to win games yeah and here's another thing if you want to be really concerned quarterback rating when targeted last year 96.9 yeah that's a valid point that's like now that's like average run of the mill quarterback like quarterback has a good day at the field and whatnot but as a cornerback you can't be allowing 96.9 that's just unacceptable yeah but that's all i have for my uh red flag kind of guys i'm not saying these guys are gonna suck i'm just saying maybe we move them down the draft board a wee bit i like it i like it i like it mr draft guy thank you very generous we'll take a quick breather

uh time out on the field we'll take a quick break when we Time out on the field. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll go through the guys that maybe we could see them being a draft steal. Maybe we see them drafted a little later, but maybe they're the diamond in the rough that you're looking for on your team. This is the FumbleRisky Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.

He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Oh, geez, excuse me. Listening to the Fumble Risky Podcast, Powered 18 Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting, Chris Costich, CJ Medeiros. Sorry, I've had a long day today. I'm listening to the FumbleRisky Podcast, Powerade 18 Radio, and Secret Weapon Consulting. Chris Costich, CJ Medeiros. Sorry, I've had a long day today. I'm tired. Oh, we forgive you.

Draft steals, potential NFL draft steals, your diamond in the roughs. CJ, what are some diamond in the roughs that we should be looking for that you should want on your team that could be a great late-round pick? So quarterback is probably the position that is a biggest crapshoot. You know, just in the draft. From first round to undrafted, you don't know. For example, Patrick Mahomes had Mitch Trubisky taken over him, and Tom Brady was literally a sixth-round pick. Joe Montana was like a third-round pick.

So you just never know. But if I had to make an educated guess, I do not hate, as far as quarterbacks go, Tulane's Michael Pratt. I'll get some of the weaknesses out of the way first he's not like a booming arm kind of guy not like a joe milton or a drake may or he's just gonna chuck the ball 100 yards downfield that's not gonna happen he moves a little stiff just in his technique not in the pocket but just he said he could use some refining and he's not great on the run. He's more of a pocket

guy. He's not the most athletic. Let me tell you something. He's durable. He can stay in there and he can take the hits because he's not surrounded by the most talent at Tulane.

The fact that he's taken all these hits and hasn't really been hurt is a good sign. And while his arm's not great, he's a game manager. I think he can go in the league and be a game manager. He'll start you and you can start a pinch and he's not going to hurt you in any way. And his accuracy is pretty good as well. You know, he's not one to let the pressure get to him, and he's a smart guy.

He knows when to throw the ball away, and he knows to not just chuck it into double coverage. And his mechanics are weird, but just the way he angles the ball is just so nice to watch, and he's good with trajectories as well. He knows how to get touch on the ball, when to throw a dart, when to loft it, when to just chuck it away. So it's all about the smarts with this guy, and that plays into his accuracy as well good

decision maker he's disciplined he's just what you would want for me on this one i what i like the most about him and it kind of goes with what you're saying is how he knows how to put some touch he knows when to throw a dart and just angle the ball enough to make the play and whatnot, put it in weird windows. But it's just throwing the receiver open, using your eyes, using your arm, just using your body in general to throw a receiver open. That's probably what I like the most about him. So running backs this is like i said you know running back class isn't the greatest but

isaac guarendo out of louisville oh this guy is scary now listen to this he's six feet tall 221 yet he runs a 433 40 has a 41 inch vertical and a 129 inch broad jump this guy is on just a walking powder keg of explosiveness and i'll admit he uh he's not that good of a run block he's not that not a blocker. He's not someone you'd bring in there to pass protect. You know, and he doesn't have the biggest burst. You know, one of those guys that's fast but not quick. But consider this. His acceleration is insane. He has no problems not only reaching the second gear, but perhaps the third gear.

And it's not that he... so i said he's not that good of a blocker but let me just say it's not for a lack of trying so he plays at least with a high motor he's got a strong build like i said he's six feet tall but he's uh he's a muscle-bound running back right his instincts are good and he's a pass catcher. He has that ability, and he can come in and maybe not be the cleanest dual threat, but a dual threat that you would have to respect nonetheless. And this is something NFL draft buzz said about him, and I agree with. He has the ability to adjust to most schemes,

which means he's kind of like a plug and play type of guy so chris where do you stand on gorendo yeah um i think my big thing is probably lack of agility i wouldn't even say i guess you could say agility in more just the sense of um he's not going to be a guy that you can expect to be able to change direction. But I think just speed alone and his burst through a hole is going to be enough for you to want to be able to get him because a lot of speed, if you can get a lot of speed and acceleration to burst into a hole, that's the difference between three or between three yards and six yards right there.

You get what I mean. It's if you're someone that can hit a hole hard, then that does a lot. You're right. You're right. And wide receivers. This guy has been climbing up draft boards and i agree i'm talking florida's ricky pierce all oh this man now once again we're gonna start some of the

weaknesses he uh he's not the most physical guy in the world you know he's 6-1 but he's like 189 and there's some questions about what's going to happen if he gets hit a lot uh and sometimes his speed which by the way he does run a 4-4-1-40 but sometimes the speed isn't always present but here's the thing right about Pearsall. I like his route running. This guy is a true technician just when it comes to, you know, just like running his routes in general. And beyond that, I believe quarterbacks have like a 113 point something QBR when targeting him. And he can play outside. He's more of a slot guy, but he can play outside. He can play outside very well. And his route running grants him this innate ability to separate. And what's scary is after the catch, when he's allowed to turn on the burners,

once he gets the ball, he can just go. go so yeah if you miss out on one of these top guys in the first round perhaps in the second i think pierce all like late second early third would be a massive steal for you i think for pure saw like yeah you can depend on him to be your multi-role guy. Like, as you said, you can play him on the outside. You can play him in the slot. I think that if you're going to draft him, though, you're going to have to have him at the slot because that's where his biggest strength is. And that's where he performs the best at.

And for tight end, this is a guy that I have pounded the pavement for before with, and I will continue to do so. Theo Johnson at a Penn State. Oh, this man's going to be a problem. He's 6'6", about 260. Great wingspan, runs a sub 4.640, and just has a just short of a 40-inch vertical, a sub

4.2 shuttle. This man, oh, he is something else. And do you know what's even better than that? He can block. Praise the Lord, this man can block. He's a good athlete. He's a route technician who can find soft

spots in zone coverage he's got he's got good hands he's a scary red zone guy and he's got a high motor and he loves to block the only bad thing i can say is uh his route running is good, but it's not great. He doesn't have like the quickness you'd want. And he's a good blocker, but he just needs a little more refinement. But overall, he has everything you want. I got nothing else to really add. If you want to move on to the O-lineman. Very well, I shall. So offensive line.

Now, everybody loves tackles, right? But our guards and centers don't get jacked in the way of love. But there is one guy that I think is pretty solid. That's Cooper Beebe out of Kansas State. Now, he's not the biggest lineman he's he's a healthy 322 pounds and he sits three but his arm just like his wingspan just like 31 and a half inch arms that's not great and his frame can just kind of hamper what he can do. The lateral movement is kind of okay, and he's not the most athletic guy in the world,

but listen to this. He has power, low center of gravity. He can definitely knock a D lineman on their ass a few times. He knows defensive setups, and from the line, he can read a defense, not to mention he's versatile. He can play anywhere on the O line. I mean, if you need like a stopgap center or perhaps need to play tackle for a

game, he can do it. His hand technique is amazing. And just the foundation, like his bread and butter, just like the actual footwork and hand skills. That's good. He's a leadership guy high football iq and plays with power and if he were you know if he were a tackle he'd probably get more hype you know just but i think he's better suited as a guard kind of

like a peter skaransky type of guy yeah if anything this is a kid that's got that's very good a very good run blocker very good pass blocker and whatnot and you can expect him to definitely make an impact in the interior o-line and whatnot it's obviously the height is a big problem but that's why you throw him in the interior line at that point, and that's where he's going to be able to hold up bigger defensive tackles. Yeah. So we're going to keep chugging along here, move on to the defensive side of the ball,

and here is where we got to talk about the Alabama edgeama edge rusher chris broswell or is it broswell i always forget and i hate to admit that but you know i don't understand why he doesn't get more hype well actually i do know why he's one of the biggest enigmas of the draft. He's a tough guy to figure out. He's got a great motor, and he's got a solid speed to power ratio, but I don't really know what he does. He's kind of all over the place, if that makes sense. I mean, he's often used to drop into coverage but he's also a formidable edge rusher and it's this whole positionless thing that might uh hamper him you know especially in the eyes of scouts if that makes sense so he's not the most fluid of movers his reach isn't the best and uh he has quote a limited number of snaps under his belt of course signaling the inexperience but he's a physical freak he's got great awareness

anticipation and coverage his quickness you know his agility is hit or miss but his quickness just as a base is good yeah he's uh his weight can fluctuate but he most recently weighed in at 6 3 250 and he can still fly but the initial burst his frontline speed when he's running at a tackle that's good his technique is good you know like what he uses with like with his hands not just bull rush but swim moves and spin moves as well and he's described as like a coiled spring you know that potential energy where he can just lunge in an offensive lineman and quickly get them or quickly catch them off their guard not to mention the work ethic is what you want.

Great locker room guy. Yeah, especially if you're thinking about it this way too, defensive guys from Bama usually pan out pretty well, to say the least. So expect this guy to do some damage. Yep. And now there's another one we must discuss. So he's a bit on the older side, but linebacker Peyton Wilson from University of North Carolina,

6'4", 233 pounds. He's pretty underrated as far as linebackers go. Which guy are you saying? Peyton Wilson out of UNC, I believe. Yep. Or no, NC State. Sorry, NC State. NC State.

Yeah. state sorry nc state nc state yeah so what knocks him down a lot of draft boards is that he has an injury history including you know an acl tear in college so that that's probably his biggest weakness and he's not the strong he's fast but he's not the strongest guy in the world either and his tackling could use a little refining, plus his age, like I mentioned. But he's fast. He can chase wide receivers and tight ends with the best of them. He can move laterally. He's just another just really good athlete, just fluid mover,

and an exceptional tackling ability. There's a question about how to translate, but the fundamentals, the football iq they're sound and he's another leader as well he can diagnose a play and he's one of those guys that's going to get in the league and just rack up tackles so where do you stand on him yeah no i like i think the big thing too is that he's very fast great acceleration and that's going to be huge especially for someone in the linebacker position i think those those alone are going to be huge to help him at least get to the ball so quick

because as a linebacker you want to be that one that guy that can be able to hold a running back to under five yards or and whatnot and be able to at least keep up with the quicker receivers at that point too yeah so with our final diamond in the rough i'm talking about max melton at a ruckers rock guys oh yeah he's undersized 511 187 but here's a word for you tenacity now he could be overly aggressive which could maybe lead to penalties at the pro level, unless he plays for Kansas City. No, we kid. But he's a scary tackler, but he can sometimes overcommit.

And sometimes his footwork isn't all there. But the twitch and the speed are there. He's a 99th percentile broad jump and a 94th percentile vertical. His awareness in man and zone is good. Just the tenacity, the aggressiveness. He's got his eyes on the ball and he will make a play. And even in the run game, he's aggressive. He's going to go and he's going to hit you whether you like it or not. And he makes plays on the football. He grabs picks. He can just knock the ball away. That's what you want in a defensive back. And what I like about him is just the improvement. Now, you know you have guys with high ceilings that just come in

and just kind of stagnate? No. He's always looking to get better, and that mindset I do not see changing in the NFL. So I would definitely say second third round and i've there's some mocks i've seen fall to the fourth you should absolutely take a flyer on max melton i think the biggest thing too and like you said the improvement and you can just look at the quarterback rating from his sophomore year on when targeted sophomore year 92.3 uh qbr 2022 is junior year 84.8

last year his senior year 65.7 what a jump what a jump i mean 65.7 is pretty much right where you want to be or around that kind of area maybe a bit lower, but that's a pretty solid spot in my opinion. Yeah, he's not going to go in the first round, but oh man, I think wherever he goes, he has the potential to be a real problem. Nice. Well, that is our NFL draft bus and our NFL draft steals. I mean, anyone else you want to throw into the list real quick

before we end the show? Nah, then the episode would be over an hour. And, you know, we don't know how Adam gets. Yeah. Kind of just looking through any more NFL news. There really hasn't been much that has come up. As we've mentioned before, it's kind of at that dead point. You know, we'd have had some stories like Devonta Smith

signing his extension as well with Eagles, which is a pretty solid keep for Philly in that sense or in that regard. But other than that, nothing too crazy going on the league as we get ready to go for the NFL draft five days away as that'll do it for us. Oh, by the way, Chris. Oh yeah. What's up? I want to say to the people at home, next episode is our annual mock draft.

I was going to get to that. I was going to get to that. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeesh. And I was supposed to know this how. All right, fine. Whatever. It was just going to surprise you, man. Just going to get to that. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeesh. And I was supposed to know this. How? All right, fine. Whatever. It was just going to surprise you,

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