The Fumblerooski Podcast - Scraping Together -Ep 270 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

Any chance the Bengals retain Tee Higgins and Trey Hendrickson? Where will Justin Simmons go? Gilmore to return to New England? Adam Wright and CJ Medeiros debate these topics and more!...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 key players for the Bengals still not traded and free agents still remain as this offseason winds down and heads into the summer. I'm Adam Wright. This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides welcome to the fumble ruski podcast by power 88 and secret weapon consulting adam right here with cj mede. So the offseason is definitely winding down. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:00:48 We're getting to a point where there's not much going on, but there's still a lot of players who are left available via free agency. There's a couple of players who have pending trade requests that we are wondering, are they going to be honored? Are they going to be remaining on their teams? We're not quite sure, sure right now, but we would like to discuss it and give an update on everything that's going on now that the off season is starting to wind down draft. It's been almost a month. The free agency is pretty much winded down. I mean, it's usually the first week where it's really going. And after that, there's not too much going on.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And I'm sure you guys won't be too upset by it because the summertime is probably, I mean, it's my favorite season. You know, there's not, it's a time where yes, football is slow, but you don't really need football. You can go to the beach, it's a time where yes, football is slow, but you need, you don't really need football. You can go to the beach, you can go out, you can enjoy the nice weather. You can't really do that during football season. During football season, it's especially in new England where we are.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's very, I don't like winters here. I'll, I'll just be upfront about that, but we'll lead off with the cincinnati bengals we'll lead off with the cincinnati bengals and their whole situation with two key players who have requested to be traded right before the draft t higgins even sooner even longer before then he requested a trade twice he said he wanted to be traded then he reiterated on it right before the draft which tells me he wanted to be traded in the most opportune moment during a time when players when teams are looking to trade their day two picks for players like t higgins or a day one pick if the the Bengals are lucky enough, I didn't see it, but it's,
Starting point is 00:02:45 you know, it's a possibility we have to consider everything, but so did Trey Hendrickson. So their wide receiver too, who is not a, not your ordinary wide receiver too. And their best, they're arguably their best defender in Trey Hendrickson, who's been one of their lead sack, their sack leaders for the past few years, been a huge part of this defense during their time where they've been in Superbowl contention when Joe Burrow's healthy, of course. Um, but this Bengals team, now that we already talked about on our last episode, how they just lost Tyler Boyd. He's not a real wide receiver one. I would say a lot of people like to make that argument. He's,
Starting point is 00:03:30 I guess he's close. He's a high end too, I would say, but he's still a good, he's still a two and T Higgins was now that leaves T Higgins as your actual two. And he has requested a trade. Jamar chase is still on the team, but he does get hurt sometimes. And you need a little bit more than just one target. So these are some big names who requested to be traded. And the Bengals are just hanging on. They're barely hanging on to playoff contention right now. Or I would say Super Bowl contention still. I think they still have that roster as long as Burrow stays healthy. But CJ, what do you see happening here with Tee Higgins and Trey Hendrickson?
Starting point is 00:04:19 I don't know why, but I'm not really panicking for Cincy. I'm not, because we see this every offseason. There's always a player that's unhappy, and it always just works out. They always rustle up the amount of money they need, and magically everything's happy. But despite the fact that we are given this little song and dance with different players every offseason this is different because it's not just that t higgins wants to be traded you know he wants a big boy deal and rightfully so it's that jamar chase also is going to need a contract. Unless they pick up his fifth-year option or unless they tag him. But I just – so here's the thing. T. Higgins, as we all know, is on the franchise tag.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And every team, you can use it once. You get one tag. And let's just say their next offseason rolls around. You can't tag both Higgins and Chase. And to Cincy, the longer you wait on this, the more likely it will be that you will have to make a choice. And obviously you'd go with Chase. But on the flip side, you don't want to lose Higgins for absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And a lot of what I think it is is just Cincy, I've heard at some points, just got greedy. They just said, no, first rounder, no deal. And every NFL team they spoke to said, all right, fair's fair, no deal. And it's getting to the point where the longer you do this, the more you hurt yourself. Because I hate to break it to you, Bengals. You do not have leverage. You don't.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Any leverage you had ended after the draft and i mean for example who who would he have gone to the the chargers no probably i mean not now i don't think uh new england no they just drafted two receivers like anywhere where he could have possibly gone are not really uh open for business i don't think and it is worth noting it's not the uh craziest thing in the world but i do want to point out that they did draft the bangles they did draft the alabama receiver jermaine burton i believe, in round three. So they're probably going to attempt to slot him in right away. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I feel like Higgins, if I were a betting man, I'd probably say Higgins stays on the team. But and so does Chasers going to try to make it work out in the end. I don't know. Maybe Burrow's going to give Higgins the come to Jesus talk, but I don't know. We just see the same thing every year and every year. It's the same result. However,
Starting point is 00:07:11 I, like I said, I do want to warn the Bengals that the longer you wait, the more likely it is that Higgins is out that door. And quick note about Trey Hendrickson. I would say he's more likely to remain a Bengal than Higgins. I mean, I'm not really worried. He's your best defender. Your GM, whose name escapes me, would need to have a screw loose, perhaps two, if they actually decide to ship off Hendrickson.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And I would say as of now, though Adam mentioned, and I think he's right that you do need more than just Chase, you also don't want to lose your best defender either. And so if you're the Bengals, you have to choose between Higgins and Hendrickson. If you're what's about you, you should probably take Hendrickson. But if I'm the bangles that's what i would do i would take hendrickson first and this might be a case with higgins where it might just be better to get something for him so with trey hendrickson uh zach taylor has stated
Starting point is 00:08:18 right after the trade request it's worth noting that he did say he that trey hendrickson is expected to play for the bengals this season oh it's not like a five alarm fire then so it looks like that that one's going that trade request is going to fall on deaf ears however he said the same thing about jonah williams and then jonah williams ended up leaving in free agency the next year. So that is something that's worth noting, that Williams requested to be traded last offseason. He ended up staying with the team for a year, and then he ended up getting his money for the Arizona Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So that's something to consider, that maybe he stays, but he'll be there for the time being, and then once his contract is up, he's out. Yeah. He has a two-year deal, if that's what you were wondering. Right. So he can wait this out and he can eventually have his, have his trade requests honored.
Starting point is 00:09:33 So there's time, but on T Higgins, like all I'm saying is you need a little more than what you have. And I understand that you have two wide receiver ones, one A and one B almost, but you need more than just Jamar Chase. I know Chase is one of the most explosive weapons there is when he plays a full season, but you still need a little bit of something else because when Jamar chase disappears, who do you have? You really don't have anything.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Um, and I think you bring up a fair point about Jamar chase, how he needs to get paid eventually too. So with all of these players, these star, these star players who are due for big deals, they're not really, they're not really dealing with the problem. It seems like they're just kicking the can further down the road. So T Higgins, he was a free agent this
Starting point is 00:10:34 year. They decided to just franchise tag him. It was looking like they were going to trade him. They said they're not. Then T Higgins said, I expect to be on the team next year. Then he reiterated a trade request. So something feels off there. And it definitely looks like they're trying. They're procrastinating. I mean, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, and Trey Hendrickson are all unsigned right now to their long-term deals that they want.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And the more you wait, the less caps space you were going to have during that one off season where you want to resign these players. And don't forget there's other players that you need to keep too, right? You need that. You have a whole offensive line of players that you need in order to, to protect Joe Burrow. And if you're getting rid of, if you're come, if you're, um, if you're mortgaging your offensive line for your skill position players, you're just going to get Joe Burrow killed. So you're just making this convert.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You're making this issue a lot more complicated and it could, and don't forget, they're also still trying to win a super bowl here so this could cause for some distractions off the field while you might be in contention and trying to win a super bowl and you know trying to go into arrowhead and beat the chiefs again might make things a little more difficult and oh oh by the way the texans are around and they look like probably the toughest team in the afc right now so you have your set you have your share of challenges and you've kind of put all of these you you're pushing this all into one tiny little window of time where you're
Starting point is 00:12:24 expecting to where you're expecting to solve all of these issues at the same time, all while trying to win a Super Bowl during your Super Bowl window? Tell me how that makes any sense to me. Yeah, no, it doesn't. And if I may say so myself, the way Cincy is handling this, and you've said it, now I'm saying it, it's just ass backwards. It really is. The longer you continue, you know, I feel like kicking the can down the road is too
Starting point is 00:12:57 generous a metaphor. This is like an ostrich sticking its head in the sand, just saying, nope, nope, if I ignore it, maybe it'll go away well it's not and this is gonna snowball that's what it is because you still have that whole jamar chase issue lingering in the background and granted that he's probably gonna be their top priority to get back but do you really want to risk pissing him off too yeah and it's going to take a lot for jamar chase because he's best buds with joe burrow who loves it in cincinnati and i think i really do believe they are going to eventually resign chase i'm more
Starting point is 00:13:42 worried about t higgins being pushed out because at least Burrow and Chase, they almost come in a pair. They're the dynamic duo for the Bengals offense. I'm not worried about those two. I'm more worried about Higgins. And the reason I'm worried about Higgins is because I feel like it's hard to replace such a high caliber wide receiver. And if you just don't do it and just stick with just those, those two of Burrow and Chase, then I think you're going to have a harder, I think you're going to have a harder time than people and then people really think like T Higgins has been a pretty big part of this offense. And during the few times where Jamar Chase has been out, Burrow has still been able to use Higgins as a wide receiver one in an effective way. It's almost like they don't skip a
Starting point is 00:14:31 beat when it's just Higgins and Boyd. So you still need something there. And if you're using all your money on just Burrow, Chase, and if you re-sign Hendrickson, then that doesn't leave much money for other players to make this a more balanced, multidimensional offense. Yeah, pretty much. I just, I don't really see the Bengals winning this situation regardless. You know what I mean? Like, this is just, I guess all the contracts were stacked together like the wrong time, but I don't know. I mean, you obviously
Starting point is 00:15:15 are going to have a time and a half replacing Higgins. I mean, no one's going to say it's easy. However, at this point, do you consider cutting your losses if you're cincy and just trying to get something for him because i've said it before and i will say it again they do not have leverage i keep hearing about oh they want a first round yeah you're not getting it and like i said the longer you wait, the less leverage you will have. And it's already not looking good. They're too far along in this process. If they wanted anything for him at all, they would have wanted to trade him before the draft or even on day one, uh, on day one of the draft to get one of those early second round picks, because there
Starting point is 00:16:02 was a lot of demand for wide receivers in that late first, early second round. They could have easily gotten themselves a second round or even a late first round pick. Imagine T. Higgins as a Chief. I feel like the Chiefs would have done that. Only problem is the Bengals. I don't know if the Bengals would have done it. Bengals probably wouldn't have either.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And also, I don't think they would have done it with the Bills either. But either way, if they wanted a first-round pick, the opportunity was there. And there's also the Panthers who traded up to take Xavier Leguette. Why didn't you trade T. Higgins then? Right? That was the opportunity it was on day one of the draft that's when teams get desperate for their wide receiver one t higgins is available the 49ers had brandon iuk if you were going to trade him they would be then but i feel like now you're kind of at a point you're kind of backed into a corner you got to make sure i think you you're you either let him go in free agency or trade him you either do one
Starting point is 00:17:13 of those you let him go in whichever way you choose to do that or you bite the bullet and you pay him what he wants and then you find a way in the meantime to pay Jamar Chase. Those do seem to be the options. But Adam, I do want to ask you something before we end the segment. Yeah. Just in your humble opinion, how do you see this ending? Like what happens? Like does he stay?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Does he go? Do they trade him? Do they not? Like it seems like I said, the longer they wait, the worse and worse their options get. I think with T Higgins, it's a very similar situation to Jonah Williams. This plot last off season,
Starting point is 00:17:53 he ends up being back, but then he leaves in free agency. And then it's with Trey Hendrickson. I think it's, it's going to end up being okay because he's on a two-year deal. So they have time to figure things out. Double-check that for me. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:14 But I think T. Higgins is gone after this season, most likely. I think they're going to go all in to try and win this championship. And if they don't, then they don't um and then t higgins is just gone he'll leave in free agency and go somewhere else um i think trey hendrickson is the more likely to stay than t higgins at some point during this year i just want to say i believe he is yeah signed through this year and next because it says on overthecap.com his contract ends after 2025. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. So, yeah, he's got two more years. Yeah. Okay. I want to move on. We are going to go to some of the remaining free agents who are available, particularly on the defensive side. There's still some notable players out there who could help some teams who are
Starting point is 00:19:12 in need, particularly in the second secondary. That's next. This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with cj medeiros so free agency again like it is long been in this off season pretty quiet um as things have begun to wind down that doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:19:59 there aren't some pretty big names who are available. And I'll start it off, CJ, but Justin Simmons, he has been one of the best safeties in the game for quite some time. The only thing is he is 30, but if he were to get a two, three-year deal, he's been one of the best safeties out there, and he hasn't exactly slown down. It's true. I don't know why he hasn't been signed yet, and I do think a two- to three-year deal is fair, especially since I've noticed that safeties do tend to have a bit of a longer shelf life than corners. So I, I,
Starting point is 00:20:48 I guess I just don't understand why he is still available. I mean, maybe he wants too much. Maybe it's, I don't know. There's, this is the weird part of the off season where there are some players that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:04 starting caliber. I mean, starting caliber, I mean, that might be underselling it, especially for a guy like Simmons that are just still there. And I just don't know why, but I definitely feel like he will be on a roster before week one kickoff. And some team is going to be thanking their lucky stars that they grabbed him.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah. Especially what you can understand with the nature of the position why they have such a longer shelf life than corners because with corners you really have to be attached at the hip to these wide receivers. And wide receivers nowadays, they're very speedy. They're easy to lose so you it makes sense that when these corners get older especially the elite ones who
Starting point is 00:21:51 are who are assigned to these unbelievably talented wide receivers like justin jefferson or aj brown or cd lamb right they fall off pretty quickly. But here's another name, Carl Lawson. Yeah, so the thing with Carl Lawson is just, I remember when he first signed with the Jets after having a breakout season with the Bengals. And for those of you who don't remember, he, like, got hurt from the get-go. And it just felt like he never lived up to that. It was like a three-year, 50-some-odd-million deal
Starting point is 00:22:33 that the Jets originally gave him. And I'm not – I mean, I guess I'd say I'm surprised he hasn't signed yet because, I mean, he's definitely one of those guys that maybe you could get like a one-year prove-it deal out of him, you know, like that. But, like, I don't understand why he's still a free agent. I mean, he's another guy where you could definitely, like, take a flyer on him at minimum. But, like I said, this is that one part of the offseason
Starting point is 00:23:02 where you realize certain guys haven't been signed, and You're just like, huh, that's weird. Well, the thing is he's always kind of been a, he's a little overrated. He's always been a rotational pass rusher. He's never played above 68% of the defensive snaps. That's true. In fact, not even close 42 in 2017 44 the next year 57 68 in 2020 that was his career high then 2022 with the jets it was 58 now he's racked up the stats in that time um in each of the last three full seasons, he has gone, um, he's gotten five sacks or more, which is pretty good. He had a good rookie season. He had eight and a half sacks. Um, and he's pretty solid with tackles for loss. He's kind of a rotational guy, but this is kind of that time, like late free agency is that time of year where you're not it's
Starting point is 00:24:11 not like you're looking for needs you're looking for that tiny little piece that you're looking for that little like just a little something that tiny pickup that you're trying to get in order to help beef up your defense, not to make your defense, right? If Carl Lawson is your, if he's your centerpiece to your defense out of your free agency class that you sign, chances are you didn't have that good of an off season. But if things are winding down and let's say the new england patriots added him to beef up their their second their uh pass rushing depth that's not a bad signing right because they're that well they don't need it that badly they have matt judon and josh uche and they they also have Christian Barmore who can make it into the backfield himself. So if Carl Lawson was added to that mix, he's not a central piece to your team, but he's a rotational guy.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And I think that's something that you should consider. Another player that I wanted to look at was Stefan Gilmore. Gilmore, I like Gilmore because he can still play and he can play at a small price because he's a veteran. But make no mistake, he's still a veteran, but make no mistake. He's still a pretty good corner in this league. Yeah. I mean, granted he's always been pretty low key, right?
Starting point is 00:25:56 But it's not like he was bad for Dallas. Yeah. Well, he was, he was never bad for Dallas. He was all, I always thought he was a pretty good corner. Like he's still,
Starting point is 00:26:12 he's not the defensive player of the year. He wasn't 2019, but he's still a pretty good player who could, who, if you, he's, he was, I thought he was, I always thought he was good for Dallas because they've always had those corners. He's they've always had those corners who are ball hawks who can create turnovers right um but with stefan gilmore he's very different he won't turn the ball over very much he catches his interceptions don't get me wrong however when it comes to just cover one on just making wide receivers almost disappear or limiting what they're able to do. I think that was good for Dallas and there has to be a team out there. I think there's plenty of teams out there right now who could use some secondary help, who could use that one corner, who can, I wouldn't say shut down that side of the field anymore because i don't think
Starting point is 00:27:05 he's that good anymore but he's still good enough so that he can help at least fade it away if that makes sense yeah the detroit lions off the top of my head yeah they got terry and arnold but they could use another corner yeah no no they definitely could another team that i think that it would be smart for them to sign gilmore what about the seahawks you know you've got a very young defensive backfield with guys like devin witherspoon tarik woolen and kobe bryan and so why not bring in gilmore you know former defense player of the year to come in and mentor them especially since woolen and bryan i mean especially woolen took a step back and bryan was just kind of okay i mean witherspoon's going to be fine but why not have
Starting point is 00:27:58 that extra piece of insurance same thing we said for new england you know you have a promising young corner and christian gonzalez and why not not bring Gilmore just kind of like as a mentor guy? Because if you have like a young corner, right, a guy who is already looking like he can be a stud, it almost behooves you to take a flyer on him. You just want to see Gonzalez back in a Patriots uniform, don't you? Well, Gonzalez is already in a Patriots uniform, so I think... Gilmore, I mean. well gonzalez already in a patriots uniform so i think uh gilmore i mean i mean logistically but i mean as a fan yeah but just as a just from an analytical standpoint logistically would it not make sense yeah it makes sense no that's that's a good spot i'm not disagreeing with you i i think
Starting point is 00:28:41 that's a good spot too i'm just saying like there's a lot of there's a lot of teams out there that could use secondary depth um and the patriots it they i wouldn't say corner was ever a need for them in this offseason but i think depth was definitely a thing to look at and there's some players who are left in free agency stefan gilmore included who could help out with that they have a lot of good young players, but they don't have any, I don't think they outside of Gonzalez. I don't think they have any sure things. I like Jonathan Jones health isn't, it has become an issue with him. Um, I like Marcus Jones jr. He's still, the jury's still out on him. I think he's still the jury's still out on him i think he's still been pretty good um and he's a swiss army knife too he can do a lot of different things but i think gonzalez is the only sure
Starting point is 00:29:32 thing out of that defensive backfield so i think just to add stefan gilmore in it it's not just he's not just a good mentor to help guide these young kids in their defensive backfield he's also a good death piece in order to shore things up because I think he would be one of the most sure things in that defensive backfield. Yeah, I could definitely see that. Yeah. I just think his days of being a defensive centerpiece
Starting point is 00:30:04 are probably over no he yeah he's definitely done with that um like it's just at the point with him where um yeah like it's just age has been a thing with him and it sucks that he never got the payday that he wanted post new england because he really he wanted to get paid problem is he got hurt um he got hurt during his uh hurt during his 2021 tenure i want to say 22 yeah one during around that time he got hurt then then before he could get back he was traded to the panthers and he was solid with the panthers when he got back but it was still a small sample size next thing you know he's a free agent and then he's signing with the colts under a one year nine million dollar deal and then that's one year and then next thing you know um i'm forgetting where he was in between
Starting point is 00:31:12 then i think it was after that he went straight for straight to the cowboys right after the colts yeah yeah they need to go to dallas so ever since his New England days where he was probably playing the best football of his career, he's been a journeyman, and he's still been playing good football during that time. It's just that age betrayed him, and he had that one injury that kind of screwed him over. So things just aren't working in his favor, and it sucks because he was such a good player, and I think he deserved a payday. Yeah, he did and uh honestly even if he did stay healthy it sucks to say I feel like he was I mean this writing was on the wall he was out in New England like regardless because Bill was not going to pay
Starting point is 00:31:59 him at the time but I just that injury really did – that was just unfair. Because, I mean, he was okay in Carolina. He was decent in Indy. But I won't say a career renaissance, but he's proving that he is at barest minimum starting caliber. Yeah. And I'm just saying I do think that he will be playing by the time kickoff rolls around.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I'd be shocked if he did. I'll give you another one, and I want to move to the offensive side of the ball. Zay Jones. And this is a guy who is, I would say, he's pretty much the, well, he is the number one free agent left out of the wide receivers. But he is now, he just visited with the Kansas City Chiefs. And Zay Jones has never been a top option. He won't be on the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:33:02 But as a two or three, he's always been okay. When he was with the Raiders, during his time with the Jaguars, he has been one of those players who's still able to put up yardage, whether it be 700, 800 yards. And if the Chiefs can get that out of Zay Jones, that would be fantastic. And if they were to get some good yardage out of Hollywood Brown, if they got something from outside of Travis Kelsey, if they got something out of Xavier Worthy,
Starting point is 00:33:44 it just seems like they're at a point where they're throwing things out a wall and hoping some of it sticks. Yeah, because, I mean, I understand why they traded Tyreek Hill. I mean, you know, he obviously wanted more than they were willing to give him, and the Chiefs were in like a tiny bit of a cap bind. And by the way, there's a lot of people that say, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:13 the salary cap doesn't exist. Let the Tyreek Hill trade prove you otherwise. But it just seems like even though they've gotten two rings since he's gone, I mean, they're getting wins, but they're not convincing wins. You know, they're not, Mahomes not putting his team on his back. He's not dazzling. He's, they're trying to get back to that level. And like I said, I mean, granted a win's a win, especially like in the Super Bowl, but there were some times last season where it got scary. And Adam, I know you yourself are not high on Xavier Worthy, but oh man, I would not be shocked if they did sign somebody like Zay Jones.
Starting point is 00:34:57 You almost have to, especially since they do have another speedster on the team in Rasheed Rice, who, except his speeding, lands him perhaps in some hot water with the NFL. And not even that. I mean, do you hear about him, like, apparently assaulting, like, some camera guy or whatever it was or something like a club? Yes. Yeah. was or something like a club yes yeah so kansas city you might want to look into another receiver and even beyond zay jones i mean hunter renfro exists i know mahomes can at least do something with him i mean a lot of people would clamor for michael thomas but, and while I'm a big Michael Thomas fan, injuries have just destroyed his career.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And it's sad to say, but I mean, maybe take a flyer on him, bring him in as a camp body, but until he proves he can stay healthy, I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. And I mean, like you mentioned me, Cole Hardman, still being out there, he's an option but that's pretty much it there's not that many great wide receivers left to choose from yeah um yeah i mean you're you're definitely they need to figure it it doesn't take much for mahomes to to work with what he has at the wide
Starting point is 00:36:28 receiver position but you do need something and it seems like the chiefs know that but i just don't trust their i don't trust their evaluating in evaluating wide receiver talent they cashed in on tyree kill and past that they haven't done much over the past decade and a half. Like, yeah, sure. Rasheed Rice was okay, but how do we know how good he was going to be? It was one season and under Patrick Mahomes, when you're the number one option out of your receiving core, it's not that hard to be, to put up good numbers. So how good really was he? That's my question. Yeah, no, no, no. I mean, you're not wrong, but it's just, everybody can see Mahomes, right? And we all know he's, we all know that
Starting point is 00:37:17 Mahomes is great. It's very Brady-esque in the way that he's able to do more with less. I mean, look at what he did with guys like Juju Smith-Schuster and for one half of a decent-ish season, not last year but the year before, with – what's his name there? Kadarius Toney. But Mahomes has done a lot to cover up the fact that Kansas City routinely swings and misses on wide receivers. Yeah. And if he can't do more with less, then you quite literally have zero to lose with bringing in a guy like Zay Jones.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Or, hell, bringing back Nicole Hardman. Or doing something. And honestly, I wouldn't be pushing for this as hard as I am if, you know, Rasheed Rice wasn't in legal trouble because he has promise. But he's fast in more than one way. And it's just like, I mean, if you do hit on Xavier Worthy and Rasheed Rice isn't playing, then what? It's like Adam mentioned, you know, with T. Higgins. I mean, no one there is on t higgins level but at least bringing in a wide receiver too would it would mean it would help i mean granted you know we there's obviously kelsey kelsey's obviously going to be
Starting point is 00:38:34 the top dog but i just if we're good if you're also going to trust other guys like sky more and justin watson i would still take Zay Jones over them. Yeah. Yeah, I would take him over them. And I wonder if some of it has something to do with the amount of money they have. Because wouldn't they be able to at least sign one of these players? I mean, there was some pretty good players in free agency, and they didn't really sign any of them. So even if they're just looking for, like,
Starting point is 00:39:16 if we're looking for Juju Smith-Schuster, like 2022 Juju, not 23 on the Patriots, Like if they had Juju, if they brought in a Rishi rice type player, if that's what they were looking for, Tyler Boyd was available up until a few days ago. If that's what they were looking for, for like kind of a number two option to Travis Kelsey, they could have gotten that.
Starting point is 00:39:41 And they didn't really go out to try and get that. So that's just what – that's all. It seems like they're struggling to find competent wide receivers for Patrick Mahomes, and I hope it doesn't sink their dynasty. I'll just say that much. Probably not. All right. That is all the scheduled content
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