The Fumblerooski Podcast - Second Guessing -Ep 357 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

NFL 1st Round has finally come and gone! Jaguars trade up to draft Travis Hunter and the Giants nab Abdul Carter at 3, and trade back into the 1st Round to get Jaxson Dart. Shedeur Sanders falls out of the 1st Round, and the Packers draft WR in the 1st Round for the first time in God knows when. Steelers and Saints elect not to go QB, and who were the biggest reaches? Chris Costich, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

the first round of the draft is over and boy do we have some storylines. Shudder Sanders falling out of the first round Giants get their guy in terms of the number three pick and a quarterback Patriots. Well, they gotta tackle. It's what

you were gonna expect. That's okay. Packers drafting a wide receiver in the first round. The Steelers and the Saints elect not to go with a quarterback. After that, we're going to talk about the biggest reaches in the first round. This is the Pumbler's Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.

Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides Welcome to the fumble Ruski podcast by power 88 Dean radio in secret weapon consulting days Friday April 25th The first round of the NFL draft is over. He's CJ. He's Justin Tuck. I'm Chris Kostich. So, first seven picks, hey, credit to us, credit to the Ruskie boys.

First seven picks on us. The only, the only problem is that we got picks two and five are wrong in terms of the teams. But that's wrong is that we got picks two and five or wrong in terms of the teams but that's okay. You predicted the order though and but and for what it's worth, we did get eight because we also predicted Warren. Every other

team decided to you know, be stupid. Yeah. Um no big surprise. Cam Ward went to the Titans. Uh number one and then Jaguars and Browns literally right after Cam Ward had been drafted. The Jaguars and Brown basically just swap spots along with a bunch of other draft picks that were involved in the Jags go out and get Travis Hunter. Talk about the Giants in a second, but the Patriots with all of everything going on in the first three picks, they get their guy Will Campbell off its tackle at that point. And then the Browns get Mason Graham at five, Ashton Jeanty goes to six, as we mentioned,

as we mentioned as we predicted but the Giants grabbing both Abdul Carter and Jackson Dart great pick on the Abdul Carter part Jackson Dart ended up trading who they trade with again who is with the Rams. Yes. trade

with the Rams got themselves a right right. So Jackson Dart. So I think it's a good pick but as we were just talking right before we started up the show. Maybe a bit of a reach here. We're gonna talk about some of our base reaches but definitely someone that you could have gone in the second round but in terms of the Giants it's. Wasn't a bad first round at all and plus now you got a guy in Jackson Dart that you can definitely. Learn behind Russell Wilson and James Winston for a year, maybe two who knows depending on what the trajectory is for the New York football Giants, which is

never really a good one as of recent, but who knows Well as well your What are your opinions on the Giants draft day? First round draft I should say Uh, oh so here's the thing I I like Carter. I like the pick it's a good pick this basically means cave on Tibbitt Oh's career with the Giants is over after This year, I don't think they're gonna tag them. They're not picking up his fifth year option This is the way of saying hey

I think you should probably update your LinkedIn resume because you're not gonna be here in a bit or at least they're only here for one more year. But I've said I like Dart. I like his upside. But bringing back into the first round for him is not a move that I'm crazy about. As much as I like his upside, I

also said I don't and I said as much as I saw him going in the first round, I also said that I didn't about. As much as I like his upside, I also said I don't, and I said as much as I saw him going in the first round, I also said that I didn't think he should. You know what I mean? He's a project. And you've already stuffed an already crowded QB room. Cause Russ is the starter. Brian Dable said that.

I don't know if you saw him. Yep, yep. Brian Dable in a press con, in a Giants press conference last night did say that. the pick. because Russ is the I think it's just QB three. I would think and I feel like Tommy Devito is going to be the odd man now because what same team you only have fifty three players or can keep four quarterbacks on the roster. That's ridiculous. Yeah. but I

don't know guys II don't know anymore. Maybe I'm just old, perhaps in the way, but I'm not crazy about the trade-up. If they grabbed him in the second round, I'd say, oh, that's wonderful. But, you know, but don't look a gift horse in the mouth. I guess it's fine. For me, when I look at the draft and looking at how they drafted,

I'm not mad at what they did with it. They needed a quarterback because we knew James Winston as much as we love him, wasn't the long-term option, and neither was Russell Wilson. So I knew they would have to go quarterback eventually, and I'm glad they went up and got a quarterback. I thought it was going to be Shador, but they took Jackson Dart.

I'm not mad at them for that because He does have a tremendous upside and but it's like I thought Chador was a little bit better But they needed a quarterback and they grabbed a quarterback So I don't think this overall the draft that they've had so far is bad Considering that they got Abdul Carter, which was their main guy in the first place. I think that as the floor is pretty damn good if we're being honest. So I don't think it's bust.

Like I don't think it has the potential to be a bad draft class, but I think the ceiling could be like them drafting Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms in the same draft. So I think that's the ceiling and I think it's gonna be Sims in the same draft. So I think that's the ceiling. And I think it's going to be somewhere in the middle. It all depends on how good Jackson Dart is in the NFL. Thankfully, he won't be starting the first season

as a rookie, thankfully, knock on wood. But in the second year, I think he'll develop more, not make the same mistakes that he was making at Ole Miss. And I think he'll be better for it. I can concur with that, that's for sure. I like Jackson Dart. I mean, I like Abdul Carter. Abdul Carter is an absolute specimen. Jackson Dart's, he's just a man. There's nothing about it. So it'll be interesting to see how they end up playing around with Jackson Dart. Pause. see how they end up playing around with Jackson Dart pause.

Um, in terms of some other storylines, Steelers and Saints not taking quarterback. Um, I'm going to touch on the Saints real quick because why, why are we not taking this? Why are we not taking quarterback in nine? I know the class isn't that good. You need something though. You need something better than Spencer Rattler. Because no Derek Carr, you're going to get the two greatest weeks of your life with Derek Carr.

That's it. And then he's hurt, or he just sucks. And you already aren't most likely not having him for the entirety of next season. You need someone other than Spencer Rattler being at the helm. It just doesn't make sense. You guys touch on the Saints real quick before we go into the Steelers.

I thought Shador Sanders was gonna go here at nine at the latest. Same. I don't know why they feel this way. It's either Derek Carr's injury isn't as bad as we think, or they must really believe in Spencer Rattler. For what reason? I don't know. Maybe they believe a lot more in Kellen Williams, those ability for their quarterbacks. Maybe they're just fine. I don't know what it is, but I looked at the

Saints and I'm like, they need better quarterback play. You saw what happened to Chris Alave. I thought they needed better, but unfortunately they decided to go in a different direction. I'm not mad that they took an offensive lineman to help protect their quarterback, to help protect their investment at the quarterback spot, but at the same time, I thought they were going to go quarterback here and they didn't and I'm kind of shocked by it. Once again, the Saints with an opportunity to actually win the NFC South, don't take that opportunity.

And I don't know why. Oh boy. I guess I just, I don't get go for that. Oh the the New Orleans Saints. The New Orleans Saints don't but we'll touch on that in a bit. The New Orleans Saints, I at least think have a second rounder. Maybe not. Maybe I'm wrong but I'll I'm just glancing over it. They do. They

do. Yeah, they're pick 40. So, there's a chance they could trade up if the Browns don't grab Chador which is also possible because Chador is favored to go 33rd overall to the Browns, but or either way then I Don't know I Just and we also take a look at who the Saints drafted instead, right? they

They took okay okay, you ready, Kelvin Banks from Texas, who's maybe a tiny bit of a reach at nine. So as a whole, I just, I don't get it. Like cars hurt, Spencer Radler's just there basically. Not super inspiring, I just just and I don't get it No, that's premature and Chris you're muted the Kelvin Banks picked my apologies Is a good pick like when you think of Kelvin Banks, that is a good pick but

Hi, but when you look at the glaring problem, you would think that that would be their first priority. But that's that. Steelers. So obviously it's fucking stupid that they also didn't try to go quarterback with Shitter or Jackson Dart. Sound like they were really into Jackson Dart. So I would have assumed that Jackson Dart was going to be the guy that was going to go to the Steelers at whatever the hell pick they had. Twenty one. Instead, they went Derek Harmon, defensive tackle from Oregon. So it's going to be another good. This is sorry, I was reading something from talk, but I screwed up. I'm just gonna read it.

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the the the the the Once you get out of that, that makes you think that Aaron Rogers is most likely going to the Steelers now. But like, I just don't know. I just don't like, when you look at the Steelers depth chart right now and look at the quarterback room, who is it? Like, they don't have anyone.

Like, they would, their starter is Mason Rudolph. You might, it might as well be nobody. Like, at least Mason Rudolph knows Mike Tomlin's system. That's the only positive thing you have about this. That is the only thing. It's kind of like, it's kind of like Jacoby Brissett being back in New England and being the starter while Drake May was sitting. The only positive was that he knew well there was ended up being Gerard Mayo but he knew the

Patriot system. I just don't get it but it seems but at that point it seems more likely that Rodgers gonna go to the Steelers at this point but who the fuck knows at this rate. You would hope. But again he's not signed yet and since he's not signed I wouldn't take the risk but I appreciate the Steelers for gambling I appreciate it take one for the team but But I can't, I can't believe they saw a Chador Sanders, saw him at pick 21. It was like, nah, we'll get, we'll get a D tackle. I mean, I understand. Can't it cam Hayward is up there in age and you want to restock on the D line when you have the opportunity, but you don't have a quarterback

on the roster that can win you games consistently. Mason Rudolph is not that guy. We knew that when he first got there. There's a reason why he left. Skyler Thompson is not that guy. There's a reason why Mason Rudolph is projected to be a starter. So if Aaron Rodgers does not sign on the dotted line, you're stuck because I do not see Shador Sanders leaving this staying and staying at in the third round. I don't think he'll be there in the third round. If not, if he's there it has to be something personal. But as far as I'm aware you guys just basically drafted a detackle and kicked your future into the next year because there's no way

you're getting a quarterback of confidence this year. So I guess you're just hoping and praying for something to happen with Aaron Rodgers. If it happens, good. If not, this is your fault. So now I was just gonna say, so let's just say should or go second either to the Browns at 33 or the Saints They're like what 40 Let's just say that happens yeah Then if you're Pittsburgh you're screwed because here's the thing Rogers is just dragging his feet. He wants to drive as long as possible

We know this we've spoken about this many and many and many a time. So if that's the case, I just, then what do you do? Because Rogers has also said he hasn't ruled out retirement and knowing Rogers, that would be the thing he would do because you know, look at him, that's how he is. He's a man child. So let's just say he does right if you're Pittsburgh then you're praying for Jalen Milro which yeah great okay you know what I mean I

don't know if that's what you want to do. Look, if it is, then fine. Cause I know I've heard before they were kind of smitten with him as a prospect, but still, you know, I'm not crazy about it. And I don't hate the selection of Derek Harmon. He's one of the better DTs in this draft, but I just, I don't know if you're Pittsburgh, hey, you can just sit here and say, yeah and say yeah sure you know we're completely confident, but here's the thing they are

They're not I remember I was reading a report this was like a bit ago About how there's like this general like sense of unease in the organization like sense of unease in the organization because like they're basically going in the next season with Mason Rudolph as your QB one I mean hell I don't even know if they get to their coveted 500 or slightly above with him as QB one I mean I don't know they also got to Mike Tomlin also got to 500 with fucking Kenny Pickett. So anything's possible. And Duck Hodges. I don't know how they do it. Shout out Duck Hodges. He's married to Lainey Wilson. She's a babe.

He can't be below 500, so he'll win games he absolutely shouldn't. And then he just can't be below 500. So, going to sign Rogers because I'm sure you've heard players are sounding off on him. Yeah. Like Kim Heyward said, stop dragging your feet. Like you want to be here, you don't. And there's another one too that said something about that. But yeah, all in all though, there's just like according to Yard Barker for their Steelers news, there is like a sense of unease there. And if it

turns out you somehow have to draft Milro in round three and your QB1's Mason Rudolph, that's not a good look. Yeah. Yeah, no. If Rogers wanted to be in Pittsburgh, he would have already signed by now. I think everyone knows that at this point. Because there's no one else that's really knocking on Roger's door unless the Vikings are really certain that they're not that confident on JJ McCarthy yet. And they decided to go Rogers but we do not live in the matrix just yet. Not just yet. Real quick back to Travis Hunter. Where would you guys rather live, Cleveland or Jacksonville?

This is a debate that me and my buddies were having last night. If I'm trying to focus on football, Cleveland. If I'm trying to focus on everything else, Florida. CJ. This is a bad move for the Browns. The Browns. Why is Travis Hunter on the board and you trade back. You didn't even get multiple first.

I think you got like Jack like the next year's first from Jacksonville and like that's it. Yeah. Like you didn't even get multiple like I just if I'm the Brown's GM Andrew Berry, I'm saying nah buddy. That's it. You're going to second overall to draft the It's so anti climactic. It's so it's just not a sexy pick. I know Adam would yell at me if I say that again But he's not here. So it's Cool good for me. We all thought that it would have when the trade happened that it would have been ashen genety because Main point you said CJ

When we were out together watching the draft was that The the running back room is only Jerome Ford Pierre strong. They haven't signed the chub back to the team the and Travis Hunter and he can play corner. So, hey, you killed two birds at one stone. Yeah. Tip of the hat to you, Jacksonville. Yeah. So Jacksonville or Cleveland, which would you live in? Now that's gonna be interesting.

Cleveland, no, I'd rather live in Jacksonville. I'd rather live in if we're talking about the cities, Jacksonville. But if we're talking we can go suburbs Cleveland suburbs from what I've heard. Pretty sick. So I don't know where you are. If you're We're gonna take a quick break when we come back. We're gonna talk about Chidurah Sanders falling out of the first round and Packers getting first round wide receiver This is the FumbleRusky Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet But you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose lose

the Fumble Roots podcast. Kostich. The fellas are h Adam. I'm producing today. stories in the draft pro you can honestly say probably the story right now because if you look on social media, mostly everyone's talking about it. Chaudhary Sanders falling out of the first round. And we ourselves were not very high on Chaudhary. We did end up having him getting drafted nine to the Saints, which of course didn't happen.

Our luck actually ended up running out on pick eight because the Panthers went Tep McMillan, which we believe is a reach in itself. But that's we're not going to talk about that right now. But you would have thought that Cheddar was was gonna go nine to the Saints. All right, it doesn't happen Who else quarterback needy we we all we kind of thought that maybe he goes to the Cowboys because why the fuck not? But after that There are other only other option really was gonna be the Steelers or the Giants Steelers at 21 of course as we were talking about went defensive tackle with Derek Harmon and then at that point you're like Well, that's that's it. That's it. They're falling out of first round Giants out of nowhere Trading with Texans for that 25th overall pick trading back into the first round But instead of going with shooter they go with Jackson dart

Whoo memes about Shader Sanders incredible incredible They go with Jackson Dart. Whew. Memes about Chider Sanders. Incredible. Incredible. Uh, poor guy tweeted out, I'm ready for whatever comes my way today. Better believe that's we blew up.

You can better believe that's we blew up by the time midnight came around. So, in a sense, I could see this coming. But like I could I could see him fall in in the first round. I did not see him fall. I did not see this one coming though. I did not see him falling out of the first round. I would have thought it would end up being, it would be in the twenties at that point

where that stealer giant range was, but it wasn't. Thoughts from you guys? I'm so done with this. You know why he fell, right? This was obviously just like this weird, well coordinated smear campaign. Like just the mudslinging from the NFL media was insane. It was.

Like they hated this kid. We keep hearing terms like spoiled brat to describe him, entitled. And honestly, it's a oh, an anonymous coaching assistant or anonymous front office executive. I said this before and I'll say it again. Say it

with your chest. Put your name on it. Don't be a coward. It's just it's so cowardly. It's soft. It's like, oh, an anonymous report says something controversial. I'm like no no no no no state your source Actually tell us who's saying this Because these analysts these coaches these front office folk they say the wildest things And then high behind it and amenity. It's like no no no what it's like this serious

Yeah, no no no put your name on it I want to know who you are and If you're right then fine, but like I'm so tired of hearing all anonymous like no no like we got it Now there's got to be some accountability here because I even so once again, it's just this It's all it was literally just a big smear campaign from start to finish like as soon as he declared they just started saying oh no

Ward is clearly better even though you know he can't beat ranked teams his arm strength doesn't do Jack beyond 45 yards he's a bad locker room guy and he quit on his team sure yeah no he's first overall. Oh Jackson Dart Did you know he actually is a case to be the best quarterback? Sure he's the rawest of the three and Sure, he's you know, he's got upside but sure I mean he didn't do anything with Ole Miss but hey, come on It's Jackson. Don't like I just I don't know and you know what? You know why people don't like Shador?

It's because of Deion. And look, I'm gonna expose my bias here. I like Deion, I do. I think he's a good coach. I think he's got a lot of room to improve and I think he will. I think he's a good father. He cares deeply about his kids.

He cares deeply about everybody at Colorado. He wants to make them into good men and there's nothing wrong with that But it's just like oh, he's a big personality and I don't like it. It's like oh come on like really Come on like We keep hearing this argument of Well, if his last name wasn't Sanders He'd be a fourth-round pick and I'd say counterpoint if his last name wasn't Sanders

You'd think he's the best QB in the class literally his last name is not the reason why people like him It's why people hate him I Would counterpoint I would say that the only people that was really pushing for him was ESPN. But I'll talk your thoughts. That means like nobody else like him. I don't know. Yeah. I thought he was going to go in the first round.

I thought the lowest he would go with Saints at nine because they need a quarterback because I did not see him getting all the way to 21 with the Steelers were. I just didn't see it happening for some reason for a guy who threw over for 4,000 yards and 37 touchdowns to own 10 interceptions Drops out of the first round if you told me anything else But if you told me those were his debts and just the miss the last name you would think he's a first-round pick But instead ego out of the first round all because he's a first-round pick but instead ego out of the first round all

because he's a Sanders and I guess because of his personality has nothing to do with his on field on field play does he run into a lot of sex yes but I believe that has more to do with what he was working with as far as the Colorado O-line than anything if he has a better O-line I don't think he runs into a lot of the sex he just wants to escape pressure but I do not believe he is a second round quarterback he is a first round quarterback to me all day long I don't understand how Jackson Dart got ahead of him I understand why cam Ward went number one overall but should or should have been the second quarterback taken off the board and for people to just

allow him to go to the second round without even so much as thinking about it is insane to me. I don't understand how he managed to fall all the way this far, regardless of personality issues. If the play speaks for itself, the play speaks for itself. I don't think it's just personality because if it was, he'd go in the first round because Baker Mayfield went in the first round and he had issues. So I don't know what it is. I don't think it's just personality because if it was he'd go in the first round because Baker Mayfield went in the first round and he had issues. So I don't know what it is. I don't get it. I don't understand it. He should be in the first round and the fact he's in the second round is ridiculous to me. Yeah, no, I I think I would agree.

And when you saw it, there was even a couple clips where he had of his pre-draft interviews and it wasn't even that bad. I thought it was good answers. Yeah, I mean, I don't understand the whole personality thing. In Colorado, his own teammates regarded him as like this great locker room guy, a hard worker and a leader. So this whole thing about personality issues, like I've never seen it. Usually you would have seen it already in college, but I just, I don't get it from him. I don't.

Also a guy that trains Tom Brady. So you know that he has the work ethic for it. I mean, yeah, we're definitely ones that have shit on Shider Sanders, but we're also can realize that this is a little ridiculous. Shider Sanders dropping so far in the draft, you'd think he had legal issues, yet all he did was a flex a watch during wins LMAO.

That was a tweet that I just saw. Skip Bayless believes Tennessee just made a monumental mistake not taking Shadr Sanders. And he believes this so much, he put the entire tweet in all caps. Yeah. So that I think that's a good way to put a bow on our thoughts about the Shadar Sanders situation. Moving on Packers going with a wide receiver in the first round Texas receiver Matthew Golden.

Pretty heavy pretty heavy wide receiver room now down in Green Bay. Obviously Matthew Golden was a very highly regarded receiver. So think about their wide receiver room now. It's Romeo Dubs, Christian Watson, and Jalen Reed, basically your main three guys, and Matthew Golden is now gonna be right in the middle of that. And if you're Ann Rogers, you're punching the fricking air right now.

You're punching air. You never got a first round receiver. Must be nice. Yeah. Yeah. Saki know all too well about it. I know about drafting first round wide receivers. They usually don't pan out.

I'm happy as a flowers has, but I'm not used to that feeling. So I understand it. My thing I, I think in their mind, sometimes when I look at the Packers, wide receivers, injuries can also be a concern with them, like Christian Watson and his injuries and concerns. So I think if I look at it like that and they believe that they don't see all of them being healthy at the same time, then I understand it. Outside of that, it's a very cramped wide receiver room.

You have to figure out who's the one, two, three, and now four. Just when we saw that last season, that's going to be interesting to see. I wonder who Jordan Love will find chemistry with. If he'll find it in Matthew Golden, good. I just want to see how this will interact all together. It's a solid pick, but I think they had more pressing issues elsewhere, and I think they should have addressed those needs better. I think the defense needed more like notice

than what it's getting. So maybe they'll address it in the second round with like a D-tackle or a corner, but I'm not sure how I feel about Matthew Golden yet. I think if it's out of necessity due to injury, I understand, but outside of that, I don't get it. Cedric? I understand but outside of that, I don't get it. Cesar. That's just right.

The majors didn't get this is by far the most crowded wide receiver room in the league because you're adding Matthew Golden, who I think is a very good prospect, a little raw but still a prospect, to a room with Christian Watson, Romeo Dubs, and Jayden Reed. A room where the wide receiver one varies week to week. And my point is somebody's the odd man out. Like, you don't just roll out in a four-receiver set every play, which they can, but I don't think it'd be conducive to any sort of long-term success so overall it's Who's it gonna be? Who's the odd man out? I know some people have said well actually it's probably golden You know he's gonna be for and you know you bear and they're just gonna say all right well

you're gonna be you're gonna start number four you know at the bottom earn your stripes which I Have an issue with that mindset for first and even second kind of Is not quite third round picks where you don't just draft a kid and bury on the depth chart and say alright good luck No, no, no like you got to get their reps in that's why you took them in the first round mm-hmm and I don't know. I I think that you will still see Matthew golden. I mean It's not like they're gonna run out the same three receivers every single play and whatnot.

Matthew Golden's still gonna get his reps. It's gonna end up depending on what Matt LaFleur deems is necessary as how many reps he's gonna end up getting though. Matt LaFleur is a good coach, so I think that he'll be able to figure that out pretty effectively for Matthew Golden. Yeah, I do think though, based on skill alone, I think Golden's your number one.

If I had to take a wild stab at it, I think Romeo Dubs is the odd man out. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. the man out. Yeah, I can see I'm not sure if this is. Yeah. No, I don't. I don't. Fuck a break. Let's just go right into biggest reaches from the draft. I think the earliest one that we could think of is maybe Colston

Lovelin, tight end for Michigan, not saying that he's in over Tyler Warren. And by the way, people don't give me that nonsense about, but he's a scheme fit. No, no, no, no, I don't care. I think scheme fits overrated. You make the guy fit. That's how it is. That's not how that works.

That's not how that works. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know no i don't care i think scheme fits overrated you make the guy fit that's how it is that's not how that works that's not how that works look it could very well be but still like or you can adjust your scheme it depends on the player you can't just adjust them to like you can't ask a three four to play a four three It messes everything up from a star Okay, brother So but you can adjust your scheme is what I'm saying

Like if scheme fit is gonna take you from is gonna prevent you from drafting someone who's elite Then maybe you're just not that good of a coach if you can't accommodate You're asking like you are asking a coach from changing their scheme the way No, not their entire scheme. My point is you can accommodate you can do these things coaches do it all the time You're asking a lot. You are asking a coach from changing their scheme the way they- No, not their entire scheme. My point is you can accommodate. You can do these things. Coaches do it all the time.

You shouldn't have to settle for someone who's just not as good is my point. And is it really that much to act, I mean, that, to I say to a coach, hey, I know this guy does a hundred percent fit our scheme, but he's leaps and bounds better than the next. Like he's on a different planet. Please don't settle for less.

Oh yeah. How terrible of me. Also by the way, Tet Macmillan was a weird pick at eight. Yeah. No, I didn't mean, but yeah. No eight. I'm looking at it right now. Eight that I was thinking the Saints for some reason.

Oh, it's cool. It was a reach as well, but yeah. Yeah. Oh, actually the banks thing was at a reach. Yes. But I understand. I'm sure you all saw Ryan Ramchak retired because he flat out, he just did not

recover from that knee injury. Yeah, but he just didn't recover. The rumors would be career ending after that set back. I get it. Also, Trevor Penning, their left tackle is on the last year of his deal and flat out, he has not been

that good. No, he has not. He has not at all. Yeah, they're I I don't think they picked up his 50 year option. Like, I think they're just gonna let him walk. So yeah, so I get it. Is it a reach? Yeah, but I'm a little nicer to that one. Cause I get it. Meanwhile with Loveland,

you don't even need a tight end. You have Cole Comet. Yeah. Yeah. Should be a good a tight end duo though. I mean, if, if Loveland does pan out, I mean that could be, that. It should be a good uh duo though. I mean if if Lovelin does pan out, I mean

that could be could be fun to have for uh the Ben Johnson offense. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I get that. Uh I do have some other thoughts on reaches though. Yeah, I was gonna throw one out wide receivers yes a Mecca egg buka was on the board Matthew Golden was on the board and look Zabel's a guard right Donovan Jackson was on the board but then again he went to 24th of Vikings and by the way he was also a reach James

Pierce was on the board if you want to go pass rush you know he was also there oh I mean that he was pro Mike Green was on the board Donovan Aziruaku is on the board like there were you had so many ways to go about this and you did this. Who's shamed? Maybe. I don't agree with this thing, but would you think it's a reach for Jacksonville to go all the way up to two to get Travis Hunter? It's an understandable reach, but... No. Hunter's the best player in the draft.

That's not a reach. I agree. And if they do it right, they think they're getting a two for one with them. So yes, I'm just throwing it out there. I'm not saying I agree. And it gets worse as far as reaches go. The Miami Dolphins took defensive tackle, Kenneth Grant at 13. Look, I think Grant's fine prospect.

I had him going late in the first. Remember we had him going to the Lions at 28, but you had Derek Harmon and Walter Nolan still in the first. Remember we had him going to the Lions at 28. But you had Derek Harmon and Walter Nolan still on the board and you just said, hmm, today I shall go with Kenneth Grant. This is why nobody takes Greer or McDaniel seriously. I think Grant can be fine but at thirteen

if you really if he's really the best on your board then just trade back not to mention you're about to trade Jalen Ramsey maybe a corner would have been nice there. You know, Will Johnson's no on the board. Let's maybe get Will Johnson. Uh Jay

Baron's on the board. Oh, here's a bright idea. You need a tackle to his brains have the consistency of mashed potatoes and Yours and you know and you just lost your left tackle in Armstead to retirement So what do you do in your finite wisdom? You say nah defensive tackle? That's the way to go like did you mean to say offensive and defensive came out? Like, what happened? Like, why did you do that? I mean, there were other tackles on the board. Connerly might've been a reach,

but still Josh Simmons, Ariante Ersuri, something, you had options, but instead you said nah Kenneth Grant I did why they went Kenneth Grant if the comparison to him I'm not saying I agree, but if the comparison where they think he'll be is like hello to nada Which is quite frankly one of the best he tackles in the league I? Use her time. He's not in the league anymore, but you know I mean like when he frankly one of the best he tackles in the league. I. He's retired, he's not in the league anymore. But you know, I mean like when he was playing at his best.

Yeah. If that's the comparison to like a loading out of someone that can take a double and still make a play. I get it why they would try to take him at 13. I wouldn't, I think they have more pressing matters like at corner if they do trade Ramsey. I still believe even though it's a hot take, they should have taken a quarterback

just so their season isn't ruined. Hey, you might have a point, but there are two other reaches though, Chris, may I, that I want to touch on? First, 26 overall, the Atlanta Falcons trade with the LA Rams to go to 26 and grab James Pierce Jr. Ed Rusher from Tennessee. I like the Falcons trade with have to grade them, you had to consider what you traded up.

So that was 26, right? The Falcons gave up next year's first round pick. And it is GM 101, you never give up your next year's first round pick to move up into the bottom half of the first round. That is malpractice. But that but there's that I mean as a whole I don't have an issue with Pierce. I have an issue with them giving up you know next year's first. And then Taga is going to make you happy. 17th Cincinnati Bengals grad defensive lineman Shamar Stewart from Texas A&M.

I'm not saying that. I'm I'm an insane athlete and that's what you are. You want, but the, right? But the reason I'm not bullish on him was because if you recall, we had him going to the Ravens. Yeah. And I like him in John Harbaugh's system. I do not like him with Zach Taylor and I do not think Zach Taylor can develop him. And even still, you know where the Ravens were picking,

Tuck does, 27. He went 10 spots earlier than he showed up. That's yeah. I don't know. I think you guys touched on everyone. The only one I think might be kind of a reach is Harrison at 30 to the

commanders, the Kentucky cornerback. Oh, that was the Bills. Oh, he went to the Bills. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, he went to the bills? Yeah, yeah, yes, he did. Yes, he did. That one was a reach because I thought there were other cornerbacks better than him. But we'll see. Um, couple picks that I liked was Josh Connerly, Connerly going to Washington. Good job for the commanders. Beaving up the old line. And Buccaneers getting a Meika Agbuka, wide receiver from Ohio State. That's a fun wide receiver room right there. Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Sterling Shepard, Jalen McMillan, along with the Agbuka, of course.. It's gonna be fun to watch.

Any, anything else? Nah, not, I don't think there were really like a lot of reaches. I think we already covered the ones we thought were reaches. Yeah, yeah, I feel it. Really? I feel like we covered everything on that. But that is all the scheduled content

that we have for you today. Anything else you guys want to add before we close the show? No, pretty much. The only thing is, do you really think it's more crowded than Chicago's Y receiver room? Cause they have Rome and DJ and Kenan Allen. thought he was he's a he's not he's not there anymore. Fair enough. Where are you saying like more crowded than?

Yes, more crowded. But if he's not there anymore, then yeah, I'm not. Where are you saying Green Bay or Tampa's Green Bay's? Okay. Okay They're talking about Tampa's cuz Tampa you could You could make an argument that could that could be crowded but when when Chris Godwin is healthy up I could make that argument, but he's not yeah gonna be a lot of mouths to feed though because also add in like Kate on as well, but Yeah, but that'll do it for us today. Thank you for tuning in to this Friday edition a lot of mouths to feed though because also add in like Kate Aughton as well but yeah anyways but

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