The Fumblerooski Podcast - Seeing Red -Ep 241 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

Chiefs' lack of competition to blame for their success? How has Brock Purdy ALREADY proven himself? Campbell's decision-making NOT what cost the Lions? Biggest X-factors in Super Bowl matchup? Adam Wright and Chris Costich host special guest Aaron Wise to discuss these topics and more!

Our Super Bowl 58 matchup is set with the Chiefs getting set to take on the San Francisco 49ers. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. This is what? It's a catch! Skyline! Touchdown! Unbelievable!

Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. I'm Adam Wright with Chris Kostic as always, and we have a great show planned for you guys tonight yet again. So the conference championship matchups are all said and done, and the Kansas City Chiefs and San Francisco 49ers are facing off in a rematch of Super Bowl 54 where the Chiefs, of course, went on top 24 to 20 um here's um we have a lot to talk

about in this in these to say the least in both matchups because what just happened is just absolutely insane um and joining us for all of this to cover we have special guest aaron wise he's been alt on all too many, a loyal listener of the show. Aaron, thanks for joining us. Why don't you introduce yourself to our new listeners? Okay, so I'm Aaron Wise, and I've been on this podcast for a while now. And I'm from Illinois, and I'm a Jets fan, so pretty big one. Yeah, yeah.

Feel a little excluded talking about the playoffs for another year, doesn't it? Yeah. All right. Well, we're going to jump right into it, and we're going to talk about the Chiefs. So this is a game where Baltimore really never led. So, um, the, the chiefs won 17 to 10 and Baltimore only merely tied it in the first quarter from there. It was all chiefs and they were the Baltimore never really looked like their normal selves this year. Lamar Jackson turned the ball over twice.

He threw a pick and he also lost a fumble. His number one wide receiver who they took in the draft this year, rookie Zay Flowers, fumbled the ball. He still caught five receptions for 115 yards and a touchdown. But, I mean, this was really not the best game for the sheet for, excuse me, for the Raven. It wasn't good for the chiefs either. Now the chiefs went up 17 to seven in the second quarter and they never scored any points for the rest of the game. So this was a bad game for both sides. Don't, don't let me, don't get me wrong. I'm not going to take away anything from Patrick Mahomes, the chiefs

and how they were able to eke out this Superbowl berth. But what has, I mean, this is just, ah, it feels like they shouldn't be here. They were not that good of a team, but that's all the more credit to Patrick Mahomes. But what are you guys' thoughts? Aaron, I'll let you start. I don't know. I don't want to sound salty or nothing, but I think the Chiefs is getting lucky, man.

I have to give credit. The Chiefs won the game. They took advantage of the Ravens' mistakes. But also, too, though, the Ravens, too, though, they had their chances to win this game. They did. So they can't really blame the refs, really. It's like Zay Flowers, when he turned the ball over,

he honestly shouldn't have done it. He should have just called and fallen right down and then just lived another day. And then, yeah, I don't know. It's just Lamar Jackson didn't look like Lamar Jackson at all, all game long. He, for some reason, he didn't want to run that much for some reason. He just wasn't Lamar. He just looked like he was stuck in the mud throughout the game.

But, yeah, that's basically all I got much to say about this game. Chris. All the credit has to go to the Chiefs defense. I mean, we were talking about this was a top-10 defense the entire year. Their run defense wasn't all that great, and the pass defense was what really stepped up. LeJarrius Snead showed up as a top corner in the league. Mahomes was dicing up the Baltimore defense basically the entirety of the first half, and it showed because Baltimore couldn't stay on

the field for what felt like longer than a minute and a half which is usually how long a three and out takes is a minute and a half of game time and uh and it shows in the time of possession chiefs had the ball for 15 more minutes than the ravens did and the thing that irritates me the most is how the ravens just completely abandoned the run game. Lamar Jackson, yeah. I was saying how this year he was a better passer just because he's not just automatically running with it after the first read isn't there. He's actually taking the time to go through his progressions.

But he just didn't look, like Aaron said, he didn't look like Lamar. He took too long to look downfield the chief secondary was just smothering the receivers left and right lamar's accuracy was not there a lot of overthrows a lot of miscues and like i said the fact that they only ran the ball 16 times g Gus Edwards, only three carries. Justice Hill, only three carries. They averaged five yards a carry in this game,

and they only ran it 16 times. They completely abandoned it. The Chiefs doubled the Ravens in rushing attempts. They had 32. The Ravens had 16. If your best part of your offense is the run game why go away from it why go away from it this was basically a one score game for most of the game and really a 10 point game for the majority of the game you don't have to start airing it out yet you don't have to start going balls to the wall

and have Lamar throw it 37 times. Well, I'll tell you why. It's because, well, first of all, the Chiefs' run defense is actually really good this year. Second of all, the reason is because they played from behind the entire game. They're down by

10. You don't have to... It doesn't matter if you're playing from behind you don't have to just chuck it around all of a sudden they abandoned the run game in the first half that's the problem adam they abandoned it in the first half and the other thing too is when you look at the raven schedule most of their games were blowouts they didn't have a ton of close games they didn't have to come from behind a whole lot this year and that caught up to them. So there you go. I mean, if, if you force this team to throw the ball against Patrick Mahomes, then they really have no answer. You know,

this is something that the Titans did a couple of years back, back in 2019. You know, this, this was a team that was blowing everybody's doors off during the regular season. They get punched in the mouth, and they can't handle the adversity. So this is why I don't think that teams who center their game around their running game can get the job done. The Baltimore Ravens have proven it time and time again that you cannot win that way.

The Eagles came close last year. I don't know. I think that they can. It's just the fact that they panicked. You just can't panic. You just got to stick to your guns. That was the problem with the Eagles this year. They didn't stick to their guns at all.

That's why DeAndre swift only got 10 carries or whatever it was in that wild card game which is still criminal so if you know if i'm sorry if they ran the book if if they ran the ball more uh more in this game yes they would have been better can we guarantee they would have won i don't think so i'm just saying i think they're putting up 17 points if they don't abandon the run game so soon but at that point maybe the chiefs have more urgency and they you know because you can't you can't bet against patrick mahomes at that point no um this is a weak chiefs team but it's a chiefs team that is able to throw it on you. Are they as good at it as years past? No, by no means.

But when all of the chips are pushed to the middle of the table, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey always find ways to get it done in ways that we have never seen before. And I just think Patrick Mahomes beat out lamar jackson yeah no that's simple no no that that definitely you're definitely so correct about that because i'm sorry you finish your point because the thing that i said in our friday episode before the uh divisional round weekend was that Lamar basically has to go to the Superbowl this year or has to win a Superbowl to have these

playoff narratives about them. And, and here we are once again, great regular season. QB just doesn't show up for the playoffs. Let me ask you this. And we, we asked you,

I asked you guys this off camera, how many quarterbacks do we actually know of who are still active in this league who have actually won a Super Bowl? Like full-time starting quarterbacks. Well, if we're talking full-time, if we're going to not count Rodgers because he got hurt, so it'd be Mahomes and Stafford. Mahomes, Stafford.

I don't think Joe Flacco counts. If you want to count him, sure, go ahead. I don't think he's winning you a Super Bowl today. No. And maybe not even Aaron Rogers, depending on how that Achilles injury heals. And even if he is his vintage self, how do we know he's going to match up well being on the Jets?

It's all a big question mark. So all of the elite quarterbacks outside of Patrick Mahomes, they haven't done anything yet. Joe Burrows come the closest. Josh Allen and company haven't been able to get over the hump that is the Kansas City Chiefs, nor the Cincinnati Bengals. Lamar Jackson hasn't proven to be able to be a winning quarterback. Jalen Hurts hasn't done it yet. Justin Herbert can't do it with the cast around him.

We'll see if he can do better with a better coaching staff. Oh, I do remember one. Russell Wilson. If you want to count, Russell Wilson. Russell, I do remember one. Russell Wilson. If you want to count, Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson's a good one. Yeah, Russell Wilson. But is he doing anything? I mean, he had a good season, but.

Out of the quarterbacks that you can name, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson. That's those aren't, those aren't quarterbacks who can rival Patrick Mahomes at this day and age, not even close. So my beef isn't with the chief, the Kansas city chiefs, the chiefs do what they can. They're incredible in the big moment. They take on a lot of features that the New England Patriots that preceded them took on. But at least the Patriots were kind of challenged. The Patriots actually had some challengers.

Eli Manning and the Giants always brought out their best when they faced them in the Super Bowls. Peyton Manning, whenever he was at home, held his own. Actually won games when he was away. I'm looking at you, Josh Allen. Mark Sanchez. We're not counting that guy. We're not counting that guy.

And you could even count Patrick Mahomes late in that Patriots dynasty and during the time of Tom Brady on the Buccaneers. But right now, there's really no one who has been able to challenge Patrick Mahomes. The only one you can bring up is Joe Burrow. Because he's the only one with the ice water in his veins who can actually challenge Patrick Mahomes, who has proven that he can actually beat him

in the postseason. He's the only one. And the Bengals are basically trying to ruin his career. In all seriousness, that offensive line, they're trying with their talent. They are trying to bring people in. I think it's a coaching issue down there, but that's another conversation to be had. That's the issue here. It's not Patrick Mahomes. It's not the Chiefs that you should get mad at. It's the rest of the league.

They can't muster up a team or a quarterback who can beat this guy. And until you do that, then they are the big villain in the NFL for the next decade. I hope not. If history has told us anything that's my takeaway here you know the ravens had a great team they had a really good team this year and the fact that they were this much of a letdown i I don't put it on the Chiefs. I put it on the Ravens. I put it on the Bills. I put it on the Bengals.

Here's a little stat for you. So the Ravens are the, analytically, the Ravens were the fifth best team of all time, analytically speaking. And they joined the Patriots, two Patriot teams who are also in the top five of the best analytical teams of all time, not win a Super Bowl. Right. And those other two Patriot teams were the 07 team and the 2010 team.

And the Patriots in 07 at least won the Super Bowl. They went to the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. In 2010, they were one and done. That's another issue to solve. I have no freaking clue how they pulled that off. But, yeah. I mean, there's the issue right there. I do.

The amount of competition around the league for Patrick Mahomes is just, it's laughable right now. The closest team right now is the Buffalo Bills. That's the team that's consistently in it. And they just don't have what it takes to beat the Chiefs. They don't. Maybe in the regular season, but who cares about the regular season? They beat them this past regular season, this regular season,

and it gave them a home a home playoff game what did they do with it what did they do with nothing they crapped all over themselves so there you go it's not being at home it's not the quarterback it's not the it's not the all pro caliber wide receiver who you have in stefan diggs it's mahomes versus everybody else and that is what is wrong with the nfl at at this day and age aaron what were you about to say okay okay um okay so my take bro lamar jackson um i'm gonna keep this real short but my take on lamar jackson is that he's a really good regular season quarterback. He puts out these big numbers and MVP numbers, which honestly, I don't think he deserves MVP.

To me, personally, he didn't look like MVP really much. It's not like the 2019 version, yeah, he was insane. But when it comes to the playoffs, every time it comes to the playoffs, he don't look so super no more. He looks human, like very human. He looks like he lost his power-ups. He ran out of gas, and also he forgot how to play football again. I don't know what's going on. It's like he's always second-guessing himself once he gets to the playoffs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gives me like james harden vibes so the issue with the issue with the mvp award is that it is a regular season award so it's the same thing with aaron rogers he wanted back-to-back years but um he was uh uh he didn't do much in the regular season either. It's a regular season award. So statistically, you could argue maybe not worthy, but I will say this for him. When you give it the eye test, this was probably his best year. So that's what I'll say.

He had an incredible year. Yeah. All right. We he had an incredible year. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We do have to move on. We're going to talk about the NFC championship, the 49ers beating the lions 34 to 31. We're going to talk about all the ins and outs of this game. And if the lines were a little bit too aggressive in this game,

that's next. This is the fumble Rooski podcast. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Fumble Risky Podcast. I'm Adam Wright. Chris Kostich, special guest, Aaron Wise. All right. The NFC Championship happened, and that's all Lions fans need to know. That's all they want to know or remember um 34 to 31 the 49ers beat uh the lions but the biggest headline is this in this game is that uh going into in into the beginning of the fourth quarter, in the first half, essentially,

the Lions held a 24-7 lead. And the 49ers in the third quarter went on to score... Excuse me. They went on to score 20... Quick math here. They went on to score 27 points in the second half to take a 10-point lead. Lions managed to score towards the end of the game with less than a minute left, but it was too late 31 34 your final score but what we'll first cover in this

segment is the fact that the lions had two chances to tie this game well at least they had they had the chance to put on to put up two field goals which was the difference in this game they went for forward on fourth down both times and failed. And again, this was the, it was a three point loss. So this was the difference in the game. One of them could have tied it. I'll let you guys discuss Aaron. You go ahead and start. Okay. Okay, man. I'm not gonna lie. I'm looking kind of disappointed in the Lions, man. I really thought they were going to go to the Super Bowl. But back in my head, though, I couldn't picture them actually being there. It felt like a dream.

It didn't feel like it was supposed to happen. But the Lions lost because of Dan Campbell. If you would have kicked the two field goals, especially, I can't remember what quarter. I think it was the third quarter. They were up 24-10. It was like fourth and three. If you would have kicked the field goal there, you would have put even more pressure on the 49ers to do something like fast

because instead of running the ball, they actually had to air it out like crazy and stuff like that. So, yeah, if you would have kicked those two field goals, man, I think they would have won the game. But just by thinking about it, though, there was, like, 57 seconds left. They did do those outcomes. And then the other reason I think they lost the game is the defense. They got to fix that defense up.

Like, their defense has been the big problem this year. Like, their pass defense, they can't stop nobody. Like, they just can't. They'll be making random quarterbacks look good who's not really that good, make them look good for a week, and then the very next week, they look how they're supposed to look.

I'm going to say one more thing. Dan Campbell will never live this game down ever. Even if he does go back to the championship game win this time to the super bowl or win the tour i just don't think he's gonna be able to fully recover from this but uh yeah that that's all i got with this all right chris it it sucks you know it sucks to see the lions go down like this you everyone thought this could be their year. And then they,

they choke it away. Like history has always shown and the curse lives on. But here's the thing with the two fourth downs, my opinion, the first one, the second one, I have the second time them going forward on fourth down. I have more of a problem with.

And the thing is to like end of the first half, they had fourth and goal from like the four yard line or whatever it was. And they decided to go for three smart move apps winding down, get the points. You're right there. Don't keep the momentum with you. Come back down and you've set yourself up with a fourth and two you're up 24 to 10 and here's the thing that that lion's defense wasn't going to hold up for very long regardless if they had converted the fourth down kick the field goal or not that lion's secondary was not going to hold their ground against the 49ers for much longer. And that's a fact.

And that's why Dan Campbell went for it. Because he knew that you could only hold this 49ers offense in check for so long before they start breaking out again. And so that's why he went for it. Fourth and three and less, they're 17 for 20. This would have been a 45 yard field goal. Marvin Bagley is a 77% field goal kicker from 40 plus. That's not that automatic. That's not that much of a gimme. So in hindsight, that's actually a good move. Fourth and two, and you had Josh Reynolds. It hit him in the hands. Anything that

hits you in the hands, you got to catch it, dude. Josh Reynolds actually had two bad drops in this game. The second one is a little bit more of a tougher pill to swallow because you're within 30 yards. You need that three to tie it. And the other thing, too, is that Dan Campbell wanted to gamble some more and run it with just over a minute left you have all three timeouts you shouldn't you don't want to use any of those three timeouts yet and they run the ball they run the ball on third and goal and they are then

forced to use a timeout it dan campbell for how great of a coach he is, he's a leader of men. I don't think that this is the last we'll see the Lions making this deep of a playoff run. But Dan Campbell got outcoached in that sense because he ended up handcuffing himself in that one moment. And that was a huge definer. Granted, they got the touchdown after but the onside kick is just you can't get an onside kick anymore so your chances of getting an onside kick are less than one percent so you basically already lost the game at that point Um, here's my takeaway. I get that Dan Campbell was, uh, aggressive all season long. And that's, that can be one of his strengths. Clearly it can be also one of his weaknesses because I put,

I put most of the blame on, on Campbell to get, to go for it on fourth down. When you already have your foot on their throats, all you have to do is kick that field goal and you have a three score game and you have a three score game in the second half. The fact that you couldn't, the fact that you decided to go ahead and go for it on fourth down and then do it again later on in the game when the team is reeling, that was a big problem for me. And I get being aggressive. You need some modesty too. You need a level of modesty where you can pick and choose when to be aggressive and when to use your head and say, okay, let's take the points here. And if we just kick that field goal, we're up 17

and the game is even further out of reach than before. They just didn't take the points, take the freaking points. I was yelling at the TV all game. I understand that it helped them get to where they are to an extent it also hurt them at times you remember that game against everyone knows remembers that game against the cowboys i know everyone does because of that infamous two-point try where there was there was uh um eric deck uh geez whatever whatever his name was the offensive lineman who was ineligible or wasn't eligible reported didn't report who knows my point is that they could have just tied the game and sent it to overtime and momentum is on your side against the against the cowboys who have a

tendency to be pretty choky you decide to to go for two. Not once, but twice. Actually, three times. They were saved by a penalty on one of them, and he still went for two again. It was ridiculous. I get going for it sometimes. I like that. I like a little bit of aggression,

but have some control. Take the points sometimes it was it all is just ridiculous i like i said i i'm fine with the first time around because like it's because here's the thing about campbell is that you you said it perfectly it's his aggressiveness is what got them there and if he he pulls a Brandon Staley and starts to not be doing the same thing and start second guessing himself, that's when you start getting a bad football team is a coach that starts second guessing himself.

And so Campbell's going to ride with what got them there to begin with. And if he did anything different, I think he probably would have gotten more backlash if he had gone away from his guns. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, okay, so I got something to add here. So for me, when the Lions were up 24-10 and when they had a chance to go, what was it, 17 points? Yeah. The only reason I would go for it at that point in the game is if your defense is elite defense.

Because then if something bad happened, you know for sure that the defense can stop them. Which, if I'm going to be honest, I had no faith in the Lions defense, even though they were surprising we're holding up this long. I still would have took the points, take a chance. Because at least if you keep the field goal, you at least try to get at least points. Three points is better than zero. So me, per se, I would keep the field goal. I wouldn't have

went for it unless my defense was elite, if that makes sense. That's what I'm trying to say. That's a good point, Aaron. My rebuttal, though, is what I said a couple minutes ago, though. It's that Detroit, you know, you can only hold that 49ers offense for so long. And as you pointed out, the Lions, they have a very suspect defense.

And you have a Detroit offense that was moving the ball all over the field on the 49ers defense as well. And, you know, that first fourth down that they tried going for, it's fourth and two. They had Josh Reynolds to hit him in the hands. You convert that. You give yourself a chance to go up 21 at that point, and really, you got a chance to really hammer it home at that point. You got a chance to put the 49ers away at that rate.

Because 17 points, yeah, you can say that that's putting them away. But 21 sounds a lot sweeter. That puts a lot more pressure on the other team to come back from at that rate. Sure. come back from at that rate sure but if you fail then you're making things a lot harder on yourself again that's that's only a 14 point game that's that's still a ball game and also by the way they're going to have momentum because you just failed to really put them put their backs against the wall. So that's the issue that I have as far as Dan Campbell's aggression goes. And I don't know where Chris went, but here's – I wanted to transition a little bit to – Sorry, I had to take care of my parking dog real quick that's okay um i wanted to transition to the 49ers here so the niners they win

and brock purdy had a pretty good game but i think the real where i again where i see value is giving it the eye test like we did like we were talking about during the last episode that i was on right he didn't have the best statistical game he only threw for just over 250 yards he threw for a touchdown pass and he did have a pick but when his back was against the wall when the chips were pushed towards the middle of the table he delivered on pretty much every throw that he could make i'm pretty sure in the in the second half he only had three incompletions this is a quarterback who is very much he's either overrated or underrated and i think i think he's somewhere in the middle.

He's a pretty good quarterback, and he does what he needs to do when it matters most, and that's where I see the most value. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got something to say about the 49ers, okay? So if I was a 49ers fan, yeah, I'd be happy to go to the Super Bowl, but if I'm going to be honest, though, you can't really feel too confident about your team because, if I'm being honest, the foreigners shouldn't even be in the

Super Bowl. They should have lost to the Packers, and they really should have lost this game too, if I'm going to be honest. That foreigners defense needs to step up because they have not been stepping up at all this postseason. If I'm going to be honest, the 49ers should win the Super Bowl, but I don't have too much confidence that they will.

The 49ers defense hasn't been looking like the 49ers defense most of the season. All of the time until the postseason, they've been kind of laid back, and all of a sudden, when they actually got to do something, that's when they start showing up all of a sudden. Like, they need to show up from the first quarter all the way to the fourth

quarter and maybe overtime if they need. Like, it just feels like the 49ers defense, they pick and choose when they want to play. Like, you got to play the whole game. Same with the offense, too, because the offense came out of the gate sluggish. Like, they drink some alcohol or something, like they drank some alcohol or something, like two cups of alcohol or something. I don't know.

They just look off, and all of a sudden, like, oh, shoot, we're down 24-7? Oh, oh, shoot, now we just got to start playing. Like, yo, if you do that in the Super Bowl against the Panthers and the Holmes, you're going to lose. I hate to say that, but, like, in the Super Bowl, they need to play the best game all the way through. Don't be the Ravens that

have been hurting themselves because the 49ers have been hurting themselves the whole postseason. They've just been getting kind of lucky because after a while, it's going to come back to bite you and it might happen again. Hopefully, the 49ers learn their lesson. It's got to be a quick lesson. quick lesson got two weeks or a week now okay two weeks learn your mistakes all right that's all i gotta say

i'm sorry for a little rant but i had to say what i had to say about 49ers yeah no i completely agree with what you're saying though aaron and this is back-to-back games now that the 49ers have gone out to a slow start and this is another 49ers team like games now that the 49ers have gone out to a slow start. And this is another 49ers team, like I was saying with the Ravens, that didn't have to really deal with a lot of adversity. I mean, yeah, there was a couple of games here and there where they had to deal with it during the season. They had week two against the Rams, you know, you had the three straight losses, two of them, one score games against the Browns and the Vikings.

But other than that, most of the games were two score games, two, three score games. So they weren't really dealing with a lot of these really close matchups up until the playoff started. And two of the three close games that I just pointed out, they lost him. Yeah. And the Chiefs have had to deal with that all season. That is what I will say. Here, I'll keep moving. Listen, that is one thing that I would say the 49ers need to improve on,

is that they need to play better out of the gates because you have played down to your competition quite literally. That Packers team, you should not have – the game should not have been close. You managed to win it, but you could make an argument they shouldn't have. And the same thing with this Lions team. They had a chance to bury you, and they didn't. I think the 49ers should win, but we've said that about the Packers. We've said that about the Lions. I still think the 49ers should win. But what I would say is that they need to stop playing with their food.

Win. Just win the game. Put them away quickly. You force Mahomes to play from behind with that offense, and mistakes are going to be made. McCole Hardman is going to have another touchback turnover, fumble out of the back of the end zone. Canarius Toney is going to line up offsides or he's going to drop a pass. He'll tip a pass that turns into a pick six, right? That's a Canarius Toney point.

Mistakes will be made. But if you let the chiefs have the momentum then i don't trust i don't trust that mahomes will mess it up i think he's too good in the big moment to be able to to screw things up yeah i don't know definitely agree with that Aaron, you can go. I'm looking for something right now. With this 49ers team, this 49ers team gives me Boston Celtics vibes. They have a great regular season. Everybody's talking about it. They're saying they should go to the Super Bowl or the Celtics.

They should go to the finals and win the finals. But then once they play teams that they should beat, they start playing with the food. They start not taking them seriously. And then all of a sudden, when adversity hits, that's when they start waking up all of a sudden, which that shouldn't be the case. Like if you would have started the game out better,

you would have some breathing room. And if you make a mistake one or two, you have a chance to come back. But if you put yourself in that big of a deficit, you basically got to play perfect the rest of the way. Okay. We'll get more in-depth about the Super Bowl matchup in itself next. Will things be different in this one? Or will it stay the same?

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Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field to Watkins. Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. Adam Wright, Chris Kostic, special guest Aaron Wise. So the Super Bowl 58 matchup is set, and we are on to, and this is bittersweet news, our last game of the NFL season up until September.

But they saved the best for last. We got the Chiefs Niners. And I think this has the potential to be a very good Super Bowl. I think we have a clear favorite in the game, but the Chiefs don't count out Patrick Mahomes and company just yet. And that doesn't mean I believe that um the 49ers are going to lose i think the 49ers are going to win this game but i smell a rat i smell i smell a potential upset in this game where the chiefs are going to put up a really good fight they may even go to the point where they're on the brink of victory. And what happens then? I can't tell you.

I don't have a crystal ball. But this is going to be, I have a feeling, this is going to be a very, very good Super Bowl matchup. Both teams with some good talent on both sides of the ball. 49ers have a little bit more, at least on the offensive side. But let's not forget about that Chiefs defense. That's going to keep the Chiefs in this game, just as they have all of the past couple of matchups in this postseason and all season long. Guys, I'll let

you discuss what are your initial takes on this Super Bowl matchup now that it's all set? Well, the 49ers defense has been a little lackluster recently. Chiefs time and time again have shown that they can get it done in close games, and they've shown that back-to-back times now, and they've shown it plenty of times throughout the season. And they know more than anyone about adversity but rishi rice we like to dog on chiefs receivers a lot but rishi rice has been stepping up his game a lot in recent weeks um you can even look at uh from this past game eight catches 46 yards obviously the yards weren't really there,

but in terms of him getting nine targets and hauling in eight of them, that's pretty damn good. So you got Rasheed Rice that's really stepping up to the plate. Travis Kelsey's emerged again as the tight end that he should be. And Mahomes, you just can't bet against Mahomes for some reason. I don't know what it is. He is Thanos. He is inevitable.

It's insane. He almost has the full gauntlet. It's crazy. On the 49ers side, Brock Purdy has shown that he is that guy. And he's shown it back-to to back weeks that back against the wall, fourth quarter, he's going to make plays. He's going to make the throws.

He's going to make, he's going to make plays with his legs. If he has to, I mean, see him running the ball. That was great. Picking up first down after first down with his legs. That was insane. Christian McCaffrey, one of the best running backs in the league Fred Warner one of the best linebackers in the league Trent

Williams obviously arguably the best tackle in the league it's it's hard to want to bet against Mahomes because of how good this 49ers team is supposed to be. And I didn't even mention Debo Samuel, and there's so many other players on this 49ers team that I haven't even mentioned that are really good. But it's hard to, like I said, it's hard to bet against Mahomes even with such a good roster that the 49ers have. Let me tell you something, though.

It's also hard to bet against Brock Purdy. I'll say it, and it needs to be said. This guy, he's only lost four games in his young career. And sure, they lost those games. In one of them, he tore a UCL. I wasn't counting that one. That one hardly counts. Come on.

Yeah, they lost that game. He hardly even got to play in that game. Who knows how it would have gone? For all we know, the 49ers could have won that game. That's what I'm trying to say. He just didn't throw the ball. Well, yeah. Again, doesn't count That's what I'm trying to say. He just didn't throw the ball. Well, yeah.

Again, doesn't count. Yeah, I'm not counting that. Listen, this guy, don't look now, but Mr. Irrelevant, the last overall pick in the 2022 NFL draft, this guy has had a chip on his shoulder and time and time again, when it matters most, this guy has been able to play at the highest level possible. He really has. And, you know, so his first year where he didn't, he hardly even got to start for his first season in the league. He didn't get to start until the second half of the season. And then he takes a team, a team that he's hardly gotten reps with as the third string quarterback to an NFC championship. And then the very next year recovering from a UCL tear,

he takes them to the Superbowl a step higher. Yeah, sure. He had a, he had a rough, he had a couple of rough patches late during stretches in this season. But everybody does. Tom Brady's had some bad games. You remember that early stretch in 2014 when Trent Dilfer, after that Chiefs game where Tom Brady literally got benched, Trent Dilfer said the Patriots aren't good anymore. That was a terrible stretch for him. They may have went 2-2, but they could have easily gone 0-4 during that stretch. Probably 1-3 because they actually beat the snot out of the Vikings in that one game. But point still stands. Like, elite players, I'm not saying he's elite, I'm not saying he's not. I'm saying in the time that we have seen him, he has stepped up when it matters. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet when it matters, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws, and you see him scoring

touchdowns when he needs to. Yes, he has a lot of weapons, but he knows how to use them. He knows how to use his weapons, and that is going to be something that is huge coming up. How does he use Debo Samuel, Brandon Ayuk, George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey? He knows how to use his weapons and utilize them exactly when he needs to. He doesn't force the ball to anyone. He finds the open wide receiver. And that's something you can't hold against him what are you going to do just not you are you going to make it as hard as you can on purpose to prove a point you have weapons you use them you don't be ashamed of that that makes no sense to me he knows how to use his toys he finds he gets the ball to his playmakers that's point. So you're admitting you were wrong

from what you said earlier this season. What did I say? You were dogging on Brock Purdy after that three-game stretch. I said I can't unsee that, and can you? Yeah, I can. Because of the points that I keep bringing up, I'm not telling you that he's elite,

and I'm not telling you that he can play either i'm not telling you that he can play either i'm telling you that what we have seen has been good has been really good all right well the thing with brock purdy okay so if brock purdy isn't all that in a bag of chips why couldn't trey lance get it done with this team why couldn't jimmy garoppolo get it done with his team jimmy garoppolo could get it done with that team no he didnoppolo could get it done with that team. No, he didn't. He was doing the same stuff. He took him to the NFC Championship the year prior.

And he did it with a shoulder injury. And he lost his... And Brock Purdy had a concussion in the Vikings game, in the Bengals game. Okay, yeah, sure. And he still has the job. Right. So did Jimmy Garoppolo. And he didn't... Then why isn't Jimmy Garoppolo on the team then then why isn't

jimmy garoppolo on this 49ers team to take him to the super bowl because they moved on from him for brock purdy that's why yeah jimmy garoppolo well let's all let's not forget jimmy garoppolo wasn't the guy to begin with he was he was traded to the 49ers to be the guy and then they went on they went and moved on from him for trey lance he became the backup they only went to jimmy garoppolo last year because trey lance got hurt so jimmy garoppolo wasn't supposed to be the guy either they were already moving on from him at that point. But the fact that they were still able to... Then why didn't Trey Lance take his job back then? Then why didn't Trey Lance take his job back?

Because Trey Lance just can't play. The overall pick of the 21 NFL draft couldn't beat out Mr. Irrelevant. Because Trey Lance just can't play. He sucks. And he couldn't beat out Mr. Irrelevant. Thank you. Thank you. That doesn't mean...

But I'm saying that doesn't like, so Brock Purdy may not suck. That doesn't mean that that may just mean that Trey Lance sucks that he can't use the weapons. Brock Purdy can use his weapons, but we still can't see exactly what he is. Is he an elite quarterback? Can you definitively say that he is an elite quarterback and he can win without these weapons? I'm giving him credit for being able to use the ones that he has, just as I give to a credit for winning against sub 500 teams with the weapons that he has. But Brock Purdy, can you tell me that definitively, I'm not saying that he can't, can you tell me definitively that without a lot of these weapons that he could still take this team to the promised land? Seeing the throws that he's made, yes.

I think he still could. Okay. I wouldn't rule it out. I'm telling you. I'm not going to say he's elite. It's only his second year. Right. I'm not going to say he's elite. It's only his second year. But based on the plays that he's made, the throws that he's made in big situations, it's hard to say that he's not on that path.

Yeah. I'm not ruling it out. I'm saying that right now, with what he has, he's making it work. Okay. And he makes the throws that he needs to make. I'm saying that if he didn't have these weapons, I would not rule out that this guy may not be that good. Yeah, because – okay, so I got something to add to this, okay?

So I'm just going to use history in this, okay? Okay, me personally, I can't remember which game Brad Pruitt got his first concussion at. It's okay. Okay me person. I came here which game Brad Perry guys first question that I Was it like the white Minnesota or the bank the Viking game? Okay I think I think I think the reason why he came back so so quickly from a concussion in Me theory like this is this is just me just speculating. It's because I think Brad pretty new deep down Which I'm guys I don't think he's ever going to admit to this, which I would if I was correct. I think the reason why

he came back so quick is because he knew that Sam Darnold played in the same system. The offense was going to change. It was going to be just fine. Because I noticed as soon as Jimmy G stopped playing for a

competent organization like the Patriots and the 49ers, as soon as he went to a dysfunctional place, he looked super bad in LA. Well, no, not LA. The Las Vegas Raiders. Okay? He looked bad. Like, he didn't look anywhere near where he was on Patriots or the 49ers. I'm not saying Brad Perry's bad because if he was absolutely horrible, he would have got benched like weeks ago, like weeks ago. But I'm going to be honest with Brad Perry, though.

He has been throwing a lot of risky passes, though. The other team just hasn't been catching them yet. Hopefully he doesn't have a dissimilar one because I don't want the Chiefs to win. But I don't know. But I do know – Let me finish with this point. Patrick Mahomes has been able to do more with less. He has now done that in back-to-back years.

Joe Burrow has proven to do more with less when he's healthy. Josh Allen can do more with less. I think it's a less than favorable position that he is in as much as we like to get on Josh Allen. Can we definitively say that about Brock Purdy? If he had less than what he has, because let's be real here. Almost everything on that team is perfect. Coaching, offensive line, pass catchers, running game, just about everything

there is perfect. Their, their defense, it could be, could be better, but it's still really good. Can we definitively say that if he didn't have all of this, if not all of it was perfect, that he would still be an elite quarterback, just like Mahomes, just like Burrow, just like Allen? Could we mention those two? Can we mention him in the same breath as those three quarterbacks? I think that's where, like, I would say that he's top 15, top 10 quarterback, but I don't know if I would be willing to put him in the same aspect as Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow, those guys. Okay.

I'm not going to take away from what he's done, obviously. I'm not either. I think this is incredible, and this is a great story too. Look at this in hindsight. The last overall pick has been to back-to-back conference championships and is now in a Super Bowl. This is a great story. And please, 49ers fans, don't get on me. Don't get on me for saying all of this.

I am not saying he's not elite. I am saying he just has more to prove to be an elite quarterback that's all that's all definitely aaron you got anything else you want to add um okay yeah i don't know like i'm like adam does make you a point like the forward errors team is basically perfect obviously obviously there are some little things to improve on. If Kyle Shanahan doesn't choke,

because he should have two rings right now. He should be in the Chiefs the first time. He should have never lost to your team. He should have never lost to the Patriots. Kyle Shanahan, I hope you learned your lesson. This is your third chance. We have your third chance. We have a big lead. Don't get

too fancy. Just win the game. The 49ers should win this game by 10 points. They should. I will say also about Kyle Shanahan, they better hope to God that they're not down in the game in the fourth quarter

because Kyle Shanahan is 1-34 when down by five entering the fourth. One, but that one victory came this postseason. But I'll tell you this much about the Chiefs and just this matchup in general. I don't know why everyone is feeling this way. I mean, I do know why. It's Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, and we're all weary from the Patriots dynasty. We aren't because two of us are Patriots fans,

but you can feel for people who are weary from it. CJ and Lucas have both told me they fully expect the Chiefs to win this game. Like, no hesitation, they believe the Chiefs should be favored and i disagree 49ers by two i disagree with them i disagree i think the 49ers should win this game but i do smell a rat i do smell something off about this matchup that's going where the chiefs are going to the chiefs are going to give the 49ers big problems. And they might put their backs against the wall, just as the Packers and Lions have done. Only difference is that the Chiefs, unlike the Packers,

unlike the Lions, they have Patrick Mahomes. So can they survive? Can the 49ers survive making mistakes like they have in these previous two games? Can they survive that? I don't know. I just don't see the 49ers losing the third straight Super Bowl. I think something's going to tell me that Brad Perry is going to win his first Super Bowl this time. He's going to win the Super Bowl, unlike Jimmy G.

I just have a feeling. Now that I do, but George Kittle, he did say, what was it, four years ago, almost five, when he said he'll be back against Chiefs. I have a feeling, I have a good feeling something is going to happen. But, okay, that's all I got. Yeah. All right. good feeling something something's gonna happen but okay that's all i got true yeah all right we'll we'll be able to cover this match up over the next couple of weeks we have lots of episodes we have this upcoming friday episode to cover it we also have next tuesday's episode to cover this match up and then our friday episode which is right before the Super Bowl. That is not going to be our Super Bowl preview. That is going to be the NFL Honors recap.

So we do this every year. We go over all of our preseason picks for the NFL Honor Awards and see how wrong we are or how right. I got both rookies of the year last year. Both rookies of the year. I picked two Jets. And I'm never going to let people forget that. It's a fun segment. It's a fun episode.

I highly, highly suggest you guys join for that episode. But then, the Saturday before. So, February 10th, we are going to be on to our Super Bowl special. So our fourth annual Super Bowl special. Lots of fun stuff, including our final predictions, NFL game food, game day traditions, even some prop bets. The infamous anthem, over or under two minutes. We're going to give our final answers on that.

What color the Gatorade is going to be? That's a fun one. All right, guys, we're on to our final segment coming up, and that is going to be the biggest X factor. So which player is the biggest X factor in this Super Bowl matchup? We got some good answers from you guys. That's next. This is the Fumble ruski podcast here's edelman broken up in the past

is no sign yet edelman comes down with a football they're saying it's a catch Welcome back. Stab! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with Chris Kostich and special guest Aaron Wise. Fan box portion of our show where we post a question filter on our Instagram story every Monday, and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more. And we will respond and give you a shout-out on our podcast. Respond to next week's fan box question to be featured on our show. So lots of good answers, as I teased.

We're going to lead off with Christian McCaffrey. Nate Sloat said this one um this is so this 49ers team has used mccaffrey as a safety blanket that's not it that is no secret he is just as important to this offense as debo samuel is and if they don't have if they didn't have and we haven't seen it yet. We haven't seen the 49ers without Christian McCaffrey in a game, and that's pretty crucial because we've seen what this offense is like without Debo Samuel. What does it look like without Christian McCaffrey,

which is a question we're not going to answer this week because they're going to have him. But if he gets hurt during the game, which he had, he does have a pretty long injury history that has knocked him out for full seasons back during his Panthers days. But I will say since he has been traded to the 49ers, I don't know if it's just the better offensive line. If he's just not a workhorse back anymore, that that's helping him, but he's been pretty, he's been pretty good with re with remaining healthy. Um, maybe it's the health staff. I don't know, but whatever whatever they're doing keep doing it because they need them um ollie uh excuse my pronunciation ollie cement to simentone ollie simentone i'm gonna roll with that let me know if i'm wrong in the comments please said cadarious tony and this could be this could mean good things and bad things for cadarious tony

because as much as could as tony has become the butt of all jokes when he is actually playing at his best like he is supposed to like the first round pick that the giants selected him to be in 2021 he can actually be pretty good we've seen it in some flashes last postseason, and he showed a little bit when he was a giant as well. That being said, he could also be an X-factor in the way he's been an X-factor all season long, where he's lining up offsides, he's dropping passes, he's tipping passes that are right right at him that are turning into pick sixes um and i would bet the latter on that one that's the thing is that you're you're thinking of cadarious tony of the past we're talking about cadarious

tony this season cadarious tony this season sucks sure but what's changed from last year to this year and i'm not trying to turn into the to the cadareous tony defender here but we know what he is capable of when he's actually playing at his best probably just lost his talent i i don't know that's a that i'm very clueless on this as much as you are because, like you said, nothing has changed besides maybe Kadarius Toney is getting thrown into a wide receiver one role, and maybe that's just it. He's not a wide receiver one.

And, like, it's not even just a skill issue. The fact that you can't line up on sides, that's not a skill issue. That's discipline. That's like, what the hell is wrong with you? Make sure you're lined up on sides. And if you're not sure, wave to the ref and ask. And I know a lot of people are claiming that he did ask, but even if he did, you could clearly see the ref did not acknowledge him at all. Make sure he acknowledges you, and if he doesn't, move back a foot still. Still do it. Why not? Like, you can't move that far back. You can, but again, you have to be even stupider to move too far back

so that you're off the line. Like, that part just blows my mind. It was a while ago and it clearly meant nothing because then you went back onto the bills turf and beat them. But like, I S I'm still looking at that puzzled and like, how the hell do you do that? That was just stupid. Um, all right, here's another one. This one's pretty funny. Kalen, he doesn't have a last name on his Instagram, and I'm sure you do have a last name, just you didn't list it, says, I like this one,

the guy that's always looking Mahoney. And I think CBS is on this broadcast, so we will see Tony Romo drooling over Patrick Mahomes. And it's going to be pretty funny. We're going to make a prop bet for that, by the way, for our Super Bowl special. Tony Romo used to be such a good color commentator, and then CBS must have told him to stop telling everyone

what's about to happen before it's happened or something so then just start drooling over the best quarterbacks in the game it's just ridiculous at least if you're gonna do it do it he didn't say a damn thing that was positive about joe burrow why josh allen josh allen is josh allen josh Allen Josh Allen amidst all the interceptions is still a very good quarterback I know he's still a great quarterback

just led the league in touchdowns like out of sure it's a fact I'm not saying it's wrong but Jameis Winston once threw for 30 touchdowns. Is that a dog?

No. Uh-oh. I thought that was a dog. I don't got a dog. All right. Do I use this one from Christian? Do it. do it just do it fine my homes and the refs and he did i was hesitant to use this one because he didn't say my homes and the refs i didn't know that this was a feature on instagram but you can put a picture on it now you can

respond with pictures and i was i gotta say i was shocked when i saw this response it was a picture of um and chris i'll give you a visual since you haven't actually seen it yet you didn't um just look at it i just sent it in our in our group our podcast group chat um but the guy shout out hop culture and bruise podcast yes but it's a picture so he used a picture of uh josh uh patrick mahomes making out with a ref you see it now i'm getting there okay you see it now i've seen that picture before, actually. I mean, it's, it's just out there.

It's a, it's a viral pick. That's awesome. Listen, almost like Taylor Swift and Andy Reed making out with each other. Jesus Christ. Have you seen that? I have,

but I'd rather not remember it. Aaron, have you seen that one? Yeah. I, yeah, I've seen that one. Okay.

So I guess, so if we're looking at this, there is a very strong belief now around the league that the NFL is fake, that it's scripted, and that it's rigged for specific teams to win. To that I say, because this is we got the same thing towards the patriots and to that i say why would they pick the team that everybody hates to win why that just that part makes no sense to me if you're gonna rig it rig it for the jacksonville jaguars in 2017 why are you rigging it for the patriots if you're gonna rig it rig it for the jacksonville jaguars in 2017 why are you rigging

it for the patriots if you're gonna rig the game why rig the game for the patriots in 2018 why not bet on the why not give it to jared goff who is a young and upcoming quarterback for the rams that part makes no sense i mean technically how technically. How about 2020 when Tom Brady beat Patrick Mahomes on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Why would you give it to the quarterback everybody hates and not give it to the quarterback of tomorrow who people still like at the time? Well, Brady also won that ring at home. That was that Super Bowl in Tampa. So therefore, it's scripted.

I'm just saying, it just makes no sense. The league loves the Patriots, really? The league loves the Chiefs? Do they love the Chiefs? Does anybody around the league love the Chiefs anymore? No one likes the Chiefs. So why would they rig it for them?

That makes no sense. If the NFL was so scripted, we would have heard about it at this point. Some player would have come out and said something. And I know K.J. Wright did, but it doesn't freaking count. That guy's not all there. I did. So we got a washed up running back in K K.J. Wright who's not all there. Yeah, I do got one thing to add, though, about this.

If you think about it, Adam, about your Patriots team, back in 2014, Tom Brady did rig the game himself. Are we bringing up that stupid deflated footballs argument? That's going to come up for the Chiefs. The Chiefs I'm looking at just like the Patriots. The refs come first, and then you're going to get some blatant witch hunt cheating scandal with the deflated footballs, even though the colts footballs were underinflated too so how do we know that the patriots had something to do with it yeah the if the patriots

had anything to do with that with that cheating scandal why would they be game planning to run the ball more like that makes no sense like if you were throwing it a million times then okay but why are you game planning it wasn't even why are you game planning to run the ball a million times and then risk getting caught cheating that makes no sense if you're gonna risk getting caught cheating at least throw the ball a lot they didn't scientifically it doesn't make sense as well uh or scientifically it was disproven um and i think that the colts have bigger problems if they're losing 45 to 14 or whatever the 45 to 7 45 to 7 whatever um or was um so chiefs fans i know you love to i know i know you love to accuse the patriots of cheating careful what you wish for because those are going to start coming for you if you keep

winning i'm just saying that's the way it works your team wins you cheated you lose you're washed you win you paid the refs you lose the dynasty over. You're going to hear that a lot because that's what kept on happening for 20 years straight. All right. Back on track. Damn it, Christian. I never met you in person, but you already pissed me off with this. Yeah, you weren't even on the pod for this either. He made this podcast five minutes longer because of me.

All right. Ryan Burke said Debo Samuel. We saw what this team was like, this 49ers team was like, without Debo Samuel for three games. And again, I don't hold it againstck purdy because it was only three games we don't know what he is like on a bigger sample size with without weapons but you can't ignore the importance of debo samuel in this offense so that is something that is, that's important to look at. Especially with the teams they were losing to.

They lost to the four. They lost to the, they lost to the Vikings. They lost to the Browns. And who's the other team? Who was the third team they lost to? Not the Ravens. It was the Bengals.

Bengals make sense. Bengals kind of make sense because Joe Burrow was starting to look healthy. There was a tiny window in that season where the Bengals actually looked like the Bengals of old. Um, I, let me rephrase with of old because you'll think of Andy Dalton and company. Um, they looked like the Bengals from 2022 and 21, but, um, you can't ignore it. I mean, you can't unsee what you saw from Brock Purdy in those games. I'm not saying, like I said, it's a small sample size, so let's give him some more time. But the fact that Deebo, it almost feels like that scene

from The Wizard of Oz where the curtain's pulled back, and it turns out Brock Purdy's just a foolish old man, just a mean old man i will say adam that i don't like that argument anymore because cj brought up an amazing point to me a couple weeks ago and how debo actually missed a couple games last season as well and the 49ers came away with victories in those games which games will was i don't know i i need to look more into that i i need to look more into it as well i don't know which game specifically off the top of my head you can you can interrogate cj about that one honestly and i do have a lot i have a lot of questions i'll have to look at that myself but

yeah i have a lot of questions for that first of we'll have, I'll have to look at that myself, but yeah, I have a lot of questions for that. First of all, how many games did he miss? Did he miss two games? Did he miss one game, five? And another question. Um,

what teams were they facing? Cause if you face like a bottom feeder team, I get the Browns. How about this? You can take the fan box and I'll do the research. All right. Please, please search exactly which games they missed

because that's actually very important. And also, I'm pretty sure this was during the time when by the time Brock Purdy was starting in the league, that was the time when I do remember there were a lot of injuries with the 49ers, not just last season but the season prior. But I'm pretty sure that was around the time when I do remember there were a lot of injuries with the 49ers, not just last season, but the season prior, but I'm pretty sure that was around the time when everyone started getting healthy.

So that might've been during the Jimmy Garoppolo timeframe. Oh yeah. I think I know what you're talking about. When, when he stood out one in 10 and then Jimmy G finally came back and he won like six in a row. Cause if it was Jimmy Garoppolo and not Brock Purdy starting, then throw that point out the window.

Um, all right, let me, let me move on with our, with our final fan box response. While, uh, Chris is looking this up.

Cole Ham said, Fred Warner. All right. Yeah. I mean, he is one of the best linebackers in the league and I don't, I think it's not just Fred Warner. It's also Drake Greenlaw,

two of the best off all linebackers in all of football. And during our preseason rankings, we always put him close to the top. And there's a reason for it. He always racks up tackles. He's a tackles-for-loss machine. Their front seven is one of the best in football. We can talk plenty about their defensive backfield, which leaves a little bit to be desired this season.

But their front seven has always been legit. I guess you could say Nick Bosa hasn't had the best year, but they still have Chase Young, who's been fine. He's been disappointing. He's been kind of disappointing. That trade, I don't know. He hasn't really done much. Am I wrong about that about Chase Young?

I thought Chase Young was going to be like a straight beast when he came to San Francisco. I don't know. I just feel like he's been kind of too quiet. Am I wrong about that? I don't think you're wrong about it because Chase Young hasn't been the first round pick that he was supposed to be. He hasn't been as good as he previously was. He has seven and a half sacks this season. In nine games with San Francisco, he has two and a half.

Oh, dang. So just as a unit, this defense is really good. All right. Here we go, go adam three games that he missed and they were from week 15 to week 17 so when brock purdy is playing and they won all three games they beat seattle 21 to 13 they beat washington-20, and they beat Vegas and OT 37-34. Okay. One of those three is relevant. I'd say that's a pretty solid point. Do you want me to go through stats as well, or am I good with that?

Give me some stats. Let's see how Brock Purdy was weeks 15-17. So we'll start with the seattle game purdy 17 for 26 217 two tutties yeah that's fine um washington 37 to 20 victory purdy 15 for 22 234 two tutties one pick and the vegas game through 284 yards, 22 for 35, two tutties, one interception. Damn.

Jared Stidham had 365 yards that game too. That's crazy. Okay. Yeah, that's so they weren't really, they weren't hawking the ball around, but it goes to, they won.

That was the beginning. Yeah. They were still winning games and without debo regardless so that's a fair point that is a fair point now so i thought it was close to the end of the season or closer to the beginning of the season during while jimmy garoppolo was still playing but week 15 to 17 and you did be be – I get the Raiders aren't much. The Commanders certainly aren't much either. But the Rocks who made the playoffs, that's not bad. I'm assuming that Debo also got hurt the week prior against Tampa Bay,

and that was Purdy's second start and they beat tampa bay 35 to 7 they actually crushed him yeah okay so this was like we're talking like the very very few starts for purdy at that point okay his first five starts that's that makes me feel a lot better about him don't but don't forget the, I don't want to be that guy, but the 49ers did still have George Kittle, Brandon Ayuk, and Christian McCaffrey. And one of the best offensive lines in football. And good coaching with Kyle Shanahan.

So yes, they didn't have Debo Samuel. So I guess that does eliminate the narrative that he can't win without debo samuel because he just did last year but he still has a lot of talent again like i i don't brock purdy is a special case for me i really do not know what he is he could be elite he could also be just an okay quarterback in this league. He may actually suck. We don't know. I'm just saying we don't know what he looks like without weapons, like without a lot of what he has.

No one can do anything without anyone. Even Patrick Mahomes right now has Travis Kelsey, but if he has like just a little bit, can he still do it? That's something, that's something we're going to find out in a couple of years. We're not going to find out this year. And that's why I still have the 49ers winning the Superbowl because he can, he's proven he can still do it.

All right. That's all the scheduled content we have for today. But what do you, what do you, you guys have any other thoughts? and he can still do it. All right. That's all the scheduled content we have for today. But you guys have any other thoughts? We are up against the clock, but anything quick? Nah. It's just the Jets got to win the Super Bowl next year. Yeah.

Have to. Good luck with that. Have to, man. Yeah. Talk to Aaron Rod rogers torn achilles see if you can work something yeah that all right well aaron thanks a lot for joining the show as always you've been on so many times and it's always great to have you great analysis and everything all right well that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us. We have new episodes out on Tuesdays at 7.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time and Fridays at 5 Eastern Time.

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