The Fumblerooski Podcast - Shutdown Corners -Ep 90 THe Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

Who are the top-5 Cornerbacks entering 2022? Adam Wright, CJ Medieros, and Justin Tucker debate which corners are bound for a big year as well as discuss the most underrated at the position.

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Episode 90. 90 episodes, guys. Well, I'm Adam Wright with Justin Tucker, CJ Medeiros. You're listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. Guys, it feels like it was just yesterday when we started this thing, and we're already 90 episodes in it's just incredible remember talk that first episode that we did with the other with the other guy who's out tonight the other guy oh man it's it's almost been two years it's been a long time december 9th this year that'll be two that'll be our two-year mark. And it really feels like yesterday when we started this.

But anyways, enough of that. Guys, we are moving on to my favorite, my personal favorite part of these player rankings, which is the cornerbacks. Now, it's not an offensive position, which is also fun to rank, but I also love corners. They're a big part of the game. They're important

uh they're all in all the best ones are such household names and this is going to be a great one so we're going to be ranking the top five corners in this episode uh so without further ado why don't we start so uh cj you want to kick us off with your number five corner in the nfl as um no no wait are you sure you with your number five corner in the NFL? No, no, no. Wait, are you sure you don't mean a corner in the NHL? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Also, this is going into the 2022 NFL season.

So it's not based off last year. It's going into this year, just to be clear. But CJ, kick us off. NFL corner as opposed to what? No, I'm joking. All right. So kicking us off at my personal number five is representing the new orleans saints marshall latimore now i'm a big latimore guy

and like he's not as big of a ball hawk as you would expect but there's two things i love about him one he's not afraid to get dirty and tackle someone. He's not afraid to lay someone out. And he's a leader. He's one of the leaders on that defense, aside from Cameron Jordan. And you can tell he's a great hold on that defensive backfield and can take most anyone. And we see that he plays, in my opinion, at least for receivers, a scary division.

Because you've got guys like Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson. The Falcons used to have Julio Jones, and he used to when he was good, but that doesn't matter. But long story short, I just respect the heck out of this guy, and he's not one of the bigger names, but still, he's top five year in and year out. Yeah, I respect that.

It's an interesting pick for top five. He's top five. I think he is top five. I want to make this known before I use mine. This wasn't a harder list to make than expected because there's a lot of quality talent. And for starters, I did not put J.C. Jackson on my list he i thought this guy was going there you go adam approves it it hurts because i already like your list i no no disrespect to jc but yeah it's

no disrespect i when i looked at him i was like he has the numbers he has the stats but then when you look at the other guys yeah it, it's a very tough list. And as much as I hate to admit it, Adam's right. When J.C. Jackson went up against Stephon Diggs, it did not look good. It did not look pretty at all. Well, I have Jackson in my top five now. I feel bad. I don't feel bad.

Like, it's a tough list. Yeah, it is. Like, there's a lot of guys that could be in the top five. You know, it is what it is. So of guys that could be in the top five. It is what it is. So I started off my top five with Xavier Howard. Xavier Howard, cornerback out of Miami. He's what I like to see in a press man corner, especially since what he did to my Baltimore Ravens.

I don't want to talk about that. But anyway, he's a solid corner. The year before last, he's a solid corner. The year before that, the year before last, he had 10 picks, which is impressive and didn't look as bad in coverage as Trayvon Diggs did. But, yeah, I believe he had a solid season, maybe not as good as his last season, but a commendable season all around. I just think that he's playing on the Miami Dolphins, and that's why he goes under the radar a little bit. But when you look at his numbers and you look at the players he's going

against and who he has to go against, I believe he's a solid cornerback to have on your team. That's an interesting pick, putting him, and I thought you're going to be surprised for where I have him, or at least I thought you would. But here's my number five. And remember, before we all give the rest of our list, remember this is going into the 2022 season, not based off what happened last year. Although that does have an influence.

But my number five, and I'm very high on this guy it's denzel ward i think denzel ward has uh some such underrated uh coverage statistics he's he just does not allow yardage at all now he did he does tend to gamble a lot that's one of the few weaknesses in his game, but he has lots of passes defended. And this is a guy who's just continuing to play and he's playing up to that contract. Maybe he might be a little overpaid, but he's definitely good enough for him to be my top, for him to be my number five corner going into next year.

I really liked Denzel Ward. I really need to see your list now, because if you have Denzel Ward number five, there's four corners I think I have ahead of him that aren't on your list. One of them might not be on your list, and it better be. All right.

I think I know exactly who you're referring to, who you fear is not on my list, and you'll find out. Is it a purple-clad fellow by any chance? We'll get to that. We will get to that. Because if he's not on there, we're going to have words. Number four, CJ. Number four is Adam's favorite corner in the NFL for me, J.C. Jackson.

Now, I won't lie to you. Even though I put him in the top five, part of me feels that he's a little bit overrated. There are a lot of pundits that are putting him in the top three, which is feasible, but overall, I just don't see. Now, he's, you know's your highlight reel type of player. He's always there to make the big pick, but he's not really as much of a tackler as I'd like, but his big playability lands him in the top five alone. And the only reason, unlike the pundits,

I don't have him top three is solely because he's on a new team. And especially for corners, the learning curve is brutal uh something that would remind you like stefan gilmore was not overly great his first year in new england but every year since he was deadly so just keep that in mind like i said there's always a learning curve for these corners but jc just on talent alone gotta be top five adam disagrees but you know that's the beauty of the show isn't it kids look all i'm saying is i just think i just don't think he's as good as everybody thinks he is it doesn't mean i think he's not good he's a very good corner

i just think if if he's a number one he's like on the lower end that's what i'll say and this year was a great year for him. He was a high end number one this year. But it feels like I'm Max Kellerman talking about his cliff theory. Just putting all these different variables. Even though, I don't know. I think I'm pretty justified in my take. But talk, what's your form? Hey, CJ, we're getting them there.

Just a couple of weeks ago, he said he was only a number two. He said he can be a number one. A few weeks ago. I didn't think he was a number two a few weeks ago. I thought he was a number two a few weeks ago. I thought he was a number two, like, maybe at the beginning of last season. And then I thought, okay, he's a number one, but he's like a low end. I've always liked JC Jackson, but I've liked him as a number two. Apparently not.

Okay, yeah, it's whatever. I thought he was a great compliment. He was a great sidekick to Stephon Gilmore during his prime days. That's what I'll say. I wouldn't say sidekick. He was better. He did good without him. Yeah, he did.

All right. My number four was oddly enough Marshawn Lattimore. I believe in the secondary that will admittedly take a decrease with the loss of Marcus Williams. Hey, welcome to Baltimore, Marcus Williams. But Marshawn Lattimore is without a doubt a top five cornerback in this league. He can play zone. He can play man. He can play press man. He can bail. He can play whatever you need him to do. And when he was coming out, you had worries about his injury

history, but he's been, knock on wood, able to stay healthy throughout his years in New Orleans. So that's been a plus. Congratulations on on that i believe he's been a major contributor to turning around that secondary and i believe he's worth the contract they gave him i want to say either last year or the year before and he's been proving it ever since i believe he is a true shutdown number one corner and he'll continue to prove that throughout the years. All right. So my number four guy is Xavier Howard. So Xavier Howard is a corner who I once regarded as one of the top two, three corners in the league.

And the reason why I don't have him number one or in that range anymore is because of his coverage. It's really kind of – it hasn't been as good as it was earlier on in his career. And I can show you right here. This past season, 2021, 614 yards, which isn't terrible, but it's not that good either for a corner who's supposed to be the best in the game. And then his all pro year in 2020, 719 yards allowed 719. Look, if you are, let's say a number two corner or a number three, those are pretty good numbers.

But if you're regarded as like the best like an all pro corner those aren't good enough statistics and i've i really i used to really like xavian howard but i'm starting to think uh his coverage stats are getting worse by the season and i still regard him as one of the top five in the league but he's he's starting to slip is what i see yeah but um okay he does he's still a good corner like i say he's still a good corner a lot of 16 passes defended but uh cj what are you what is your number three well adam my number three corner from the green bay packers j Jair Alexander. I hear some people saying, why is he not two? Well, look, I'm not going to deny his abilities. Jair Alexander is a mighty fine corner,

and he just doesn't allow yards. He's not the ball hawk that you'd like him to be, but quarterbacks are afraid to throw at him because he jams routes, he can get to the ball, but the only reason I don throw at him because he jams routes. He can get to the ball, but the only reason I don't have him, you know, is top two solely because he got hurt last year. And especially like injuries for corners can be a death sentence in the right area, but I don't think that's the case.

He's certainly going to be top three next year. I mean, you know, just based on talent alone, but I'm kind of eager to see how he comes back especially from that injury that's a good pick i like jire alexander mine coincidentally my number three pick was marlon humphrey. Oh, boy. Yeah. Here we go. Yeah. I don't need to explain why he's number three, but I shouldn't have to,

but I will. He can play slot. He can play outside. He can play press. He can play zone. He can travel with your number one. Ask Odell Beckham what it feels like to be covered by Marlon Humphrey. He can play whatever system you want him to play and just as added bonus he plays in one of the most diverse systems you can the baltimore ravens the only problem is he wasn't

completely healthy last year he did miss games which is unfortunate he had a career injury ending so i mean a season-ending shoulder injury which held him out for the rest of the season. But for the most part, he was still the regular shutdown corner he used to be, except that he didn't have Marcus Peters there to help him out. But I believe this year he'll be healthy and a better mindset to help get the Ravens to where they need to be defensively. And when he goes off the field, you saw the impact that it had. That's why he's my number three corner. All right.

So my number three corner, and it is a crime that this guy did not make a Pro Bowl, A.J. Terrell. So A.J. Terrell, 16 passes defended and just 414 yards allowed in coverage across 16 games played this season. That is incredible. And the fact that this guy, you know, we talked about Deion Jones last week as a underrated linebacker in this league on the Falcons.

And A.J. Terrell's in that same spot. He's one of the best corners in the league now he and he he did have he his his rookie season was really rocky but his sophomore season this past year was incredible and uh this is this is a kid who's he's he's young and he's only going to get better from here. And this is going into the 2022 season. So A.J. Terrell, he's a slam dunk pick for me to be number three. That's an interesting choice there, Adam. I'm starting to see there's only like two more selections we have left, and I've noticed that there's three cornerbacks that could be selected.

And yet, hmm. have left and i've noticed that there's three cornerbacks that could be selected and yet hey like you said this is there's a lot of quality corners over there and some of them are going to miss out just saying some of them are top five the others are marlon humphrey but that's okay yeah but in the other guys marlon humphrey and j and JC Jackson. We ready to start our number two? Yeah. Yep. All right, let's see it, CJ. All right, ironically, my number two was AJ Terrell from the Falcons. And Adam, point blank, you took the words right out of my mouth.

But he's starting really to become a leader on that Falcons defense. You know how much I love leadership, you know, especially on defense. And this guy, 81 combined tackles last year, which is insane for a corner he doles out hits he breaks up routes and he got three picks last year and but like adam said like what was it like 4 14 something like that yards allowed something like that or 414 in 16 games yeah and that just do the math right there yeah is unheard of literally allowing less than like 100 yards a game obviously but good god that guy is insane i mean and uh little adam like i said he took the words right out of my mouth really not a lot i can add but i am just excited to see how he jumps up in you know his is it, third year now he's going into?

Yes, he's going into his third season. His rookie year was kind of just meh. He allowed nearly 1,000 yards in coverage, but this season was actually, like, this was an incredible year for him. But do you have anything more to add before Tuck gives his number two? Yeah, I don't – I mean, how many hours do you allow a game? Because it can't have been like more than 50. This guy, there's just like no passing on this guy, you know?

Oh, yeah. But, yeah. It was just a low number. And we had to witness Mac Jones get picked off by A.J. Terrell. Remember that? Yeah, but I don't remember that. But was that even his fault? Because I could have sworn it was a bobbled ball.

I could have sworn he watched that and I thought it hit someone and then it bounced to him, but I don't know. I could be wrong. I think he just straight up threw it to him. I don't remember. We could point it out. Yeah, I could. But I'm just saying, honestly, that happened a lot last year with Mack.

He would hit guys in the numbers and it would bounce to someone else. But that's where half his picks came from. That's neither here nor there. Tucker? I mean, that's what happens when you don't draft quality receivers. That can happen on occasion. But anyway. Oh, like Hollywood Brown? That's what happens when you don't draft quality receivers. That can happen on occasion. But anyway. Oh, like Hollywood Brown?

That's okay. Our undrafted wide receiver, Jacoby Myers, is going to dominate all. Yeah. Except the end zone. That party doesn't count. We got two touchdowns. Two touchdowns in three seasons. That's yikes.

All right, Tuck. You guys already have a first-round draft pick that could do that, but unfortunately, you guys think he's a bust. Nikhil Harry? Oh, you mean the greatest duck to world peace, Nikhil Harry? Okay. All right, we're getting off topic. Tuck, give us your number two.

My number two was Jair Alexander. Unfortunately for him, he was coming off injury, so I can't really back up the numbers. But when last healthy, this guy was a quality shutdown corner. Just ask anybody he lined up against. Tom Brady threw two interceptions in the NFC Championship game against this cornerback. So we should know how quality he is if Tom Brady is struggling to complete passes against him. When last time he was healthy, he was a first-team all-pro caliber corner and showed everybody the reason why he was that type of corner.

I believe he will have a bounce-back season, and he will maintain that level of play due to well part of his brand-new contract that he just got, including $31 million, I think $31 million in the first year. So congratulations to him, and hopefully he can maintain that play at a high level. All right, so I did have Jair Alexander as my number two as well. The only thing I want to add on to that is once he came back, he played just as good as he did last year uh in four games 131

131 yards allowed in coverage which is which is uh if you do the math that's 32 yards a game and he then once they got to the playoffs while they didn't win the game uh the defense the green bay packers defense put on a clinic and uh he shut down one of the top wide receivers in the league. I'm forgetting his name. Debo Samuel? Yeah, sometimes I blank on players. We have a whole league to memorize, and sometimes I blink. But Debo Samuel completely shut them down,

and the only touchdown the 49ers scored was on special teams. So, I mean, that just tells you how much of an impact Jair Alexander can really make on that secondary that secondary which is already deep with Eric Stokes uh Rasul Douglas great core that they have over there and it starts with Jair Alexander I know he got hurt but once he came back he was his old self and now he has a whole off season to build on that he's going to be great this year so um i have a feeling who we all have as our number one yeah do we do we all have the same number one yeah it's possible i want to say it on three on three one two three jaylen jaylen ramsey yeah no good we're all on the same page One, two, three. Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, good.

We're all on the same page. All right, thank goodness. He deserves number one. He does. He's been incredible the past two years. I wasn't too kind to him when we were doing our player rankings last year, and I thought he had a great season the year before, but I thought he was going to not be quite as good,

and he proved me wrong. He made another All-Pro, and until he proves otherwise, then he is the best corner in the game. I don't know what else you guys have to add to it, but he's incredible. Yeah, typical size corner, big, long, fast, can can run can stay with anybody debo uh dk metcalf struggles with him debo samuel struggles when any wide receiver in the league struggles with him specifically because of his size and his ability to run um and he can play zone and he can play man and he's a willing tackler which not many corners are willing to do

on occasion that's what makes him number one yeah i'm right there with tucker i mean look at jalen ramsey well one thing that you didn't mention i love about him is just his tenacity he doesn't play off he plays man he presses he will get right up in your grill and every and he'll chirp at you every time you mess up and you know what a true mark of a great corner is in this social media age anytime he rarely gives up a touchdown or like rarely makes a bad play you see it all over you know because people are just grasping at straws in the media especially to try to make him look bad so you know but yeah like when it's so rare that he screws up that you always hear about it whenever he does and that is truly something that not a lot of people talk about like i said he's like a really vibrant tenacious feisty corner and

man that guy i i thank god i'm not a receiver because I would hate going up against him. Look, it's that I do love when, when corners do have that attitude, like that sort of attitude to them, that edge. But when it comes to it, there it's good and bad because I, because like you said, basically it puts a target on their backs. And whenever they screw up, it's a lot worse than if you weren't to open up your mouth and speak. And I also think he does tend to let his emotions get the best of him sometimes. And it hasn't screwed him over yet. But it's one of those things where if you're playing with way too much emotion,

I mean, just talk to odell beckham jr it could really really take a toll on you on the field and i just think it's in this that's the only reason that's the only knock that i would have on him is that he plays with too much of an edge sometimes and it's and really the only reason that i didn't have jair Alexander over him is because Alexander was hurt all last year. So he gets the, so Ramsey gets the benefit of the doubt, but he's still top two. I'm not, this is just, if we're finding any sort of downside to his game, that's what I would have. We're going to need to talk about your list, Adam, because I noticed a certain player wasn't on that list,

but you had other players over him that are just flat out not better than him. I did want to address Marlon Humphrey not making it. Marlon Humphrey. What if I had Marlon Humphrey number one? If I said on three and then I said Marlon Humphrey? I'd be flattered, but I'd say you're wrong. Look, I was going to have Marlon Humphrey on our list. If he didn't get hurt, he would be in my top five.

He would be over Denzel Ward probably at number five or number four because I think without this injury, Marlon Humphrey was better than Xavier Howard this year. But he tore his ACL, and he has to come back from that. He didn't tear his ACL. He tore his shoulder. Excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. He tore his, he tore his shoulder. Still, he's coming back from an injury and it's going to take some time to recover from that. And it might take some time for him to get back in the swing of things. If I can, if you can say that about Marlon, why can't you say the same about Jair? Because Jair came back, and he played at a high level.

Marlon still played more games than him. What's that? Marlon still played more games than him. Yeah, before he got hurt for the rest of the season. So I could still make the case next year coming up, he'd still play at a high level. Still, I'd have him over Xavier andauvoo and Marshawn Lattimore. Yeah, but look, we know Jair Alexander is healthy now.

That's my point. I really like Marlon Humphrey, but he has something to prove coming back from that injury. Now he's participating in minicamp. Yeah, we'll see how it goes in the season. but he has something to prove coming back from that injury. That's all. No, he's participating in minicamp. Yeah, we'll see how it goes in the season. That's good. That's baby steps. It steps forward.

From recovering from that injury, he was using all that time during the offseason that he could have been used if he didn't get hurt to get better and build on his career. Instead, he was just coming back from the from the injury and recovering from that so that's a that's a big blow and he he might he might find his old form at some at a at some point in the season but it won't be in the beginning of the year and that's a that's a and. And to be able to play at a high level for the whole year, that's a big thing for me. I don't want to hear none of that.

I don't. If you're telling me you have to play at a high level the entire year, but Jair Alexander's on that list, okay. Okay. All right. Look, we got to move on. We're just going to have to agree. Okay. All right. Look, we got to move on. We're just going to have to read it this degree. Yeah.

So our fan box, we're going to get to that, and we're going to find out who you guys think are some of the more underappreciated corners in the NFL. We've been talking about this for every other position, and I kind of want to use that segment as sort of a best of the rest. We want to hear your picks on that. So we'll get to that next. Don't go anywhere.

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I'm Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Justin Tucker, and we are on to our fan box. So what that is, is we post a question filter on our Instagram every Monday, and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more. We will discuss it and give you a shout-out on our podcast. Respond to next week's fan box question to be featured on our show. So the question of the week was, who is the most underrated cornerback in the NFL? So we kind of geared this more towards, again, towards next season.

So I wanted to hear what you guys had to say. And our first response was... was Stefan Gilmore, and that was Diego Huertas. So, Stefan Gilmore. And he's become very underrated, mainly because of his age and his recent injury history, which is continuing to pile up as he ages, which is never a good sign when you're young or excuse me when you're old. But he, despite that, when he's been on the field, he's been,

now he may not be where he was when he was an all-pro and certainly not defensive player of the year, but as, like, let's say, talking about just being a number one corner, a functional Pro Bowl-level corner, he has been that and then some. Yeah. I mean, at the barest minimum, he's probably still in the top ten, maybe like around ten or nine. Maybe just outside, I don't know. But still, either way, he's still good,

and he can still give the best of them trouble. Look, I had him as last year. Going into last year, I had him as my number two corner. And I had him as my number two because I thought he has one more all pro caliber season left in him. And it turns out he couldn't even start the season. And he couldn't play for the first half of the season. But once he got back, he played fairly well. Now, do I still think that he has an all pro level season? It's,

it's looking less and less likely as time goes on. However, I still think he can play at a, at a high level and he's, he has played very well in the time that he's played in the past couple of seasons. He's been hurt, but he's actually still been playing very well. And he was nursing a calf injury the season in 2020 while he was still playing very well so that was very very uh that was very encouraging for me turns out it didn't work out. But Jack Hartman said the Browns have dogs. So he said D-A-W-G-S, in all caps, with Denzel Ward and Greg Newsome. So I already covered Denzel Ward in my top five,

and I do like him as a top five corner going into this season greg newsome is one that doesn't get talked about enough and we there's a lot of we talk a lot about eric stokes i know i do as that rookie corner last year who was just incredible but greg newsome was really good too he looks out for the brown. Yeah, he's definitely a good, well, it depends on if he's like second or third, depending on where you put Greedy Williams. But at the same time, like didn't really have any picks last year, 37 tackles.

Like, come on, you got to get that up. I feel like his potential is certainly there. Certainly. Now, Eric Stokes from Patrick Williver, there certainly now eric stokes uh from patrick williver he put he picked eric stokes this is a corner that i really like and i talk i've talked about him a lot and he's a he's a guy who was taken in the first round and really stepped up in the absence of Jair Alexander last year, along with Rasul Douglas in that secondary. And, yeah, this is a corner that I just really like.

He does tend to gamble every now and then. He gets burned sometimes. But I think he's primed to step up and have another good season and maybe take a step forward in his sophomore season. Yeah, Adam, I absolutely agree. But the biggest factor here is that Jair Alexander is going to come back, and he doesn't have to be the guy. He can just sit back play corner two and uh

you know maybe try to learn from jair yeah and another thing is i know a lot of they the packers have received a lot and i mean a lot of blowback for not receive not a receiver in the first round. They've been focusing on defense for the past few years, outside of 2019-2020. I believe it was 2020 when they took a quarterback. And it doesn't look like he's going to pan out. I could be wrong. But say what you want about how they've been drafting only defense and they've been focusing free agency on there as well. It's reflected on the field. That defense looks like it's going to be,

it's been very good the past few years and it looks like it's going to be the strength, the strength of the team this year. So it's been, it's been pretty good. I have really, that is one part that I do respect about Green Bay. Back in the earlier 2010s, they had an abysmal defense, and they've been focusing on it. It's been getting better and better by the year. Only problem is their offense is getting worse and worse by the year. So that's something that they'll have to focus on.

In improving, which they did not do, they took Christian Watson but we'll remains to be seen whether he'll be he'll pan out but uh b prince i'm not sure what his actual name is let me it says b prince like b and then p-r-i-n-c-I-C. So he said Greg Newsome again. So do we have anything to add to what we mentioned about him last, when Jack mentioned it? No, not really. Solid player. Can't wait to see him play again. Yeah, and I'm looking for him.

So Ben Prinsic, I think that's what it is um i think he's a new follower but he's a first he this is the first time he's responding to the fan box usually we have a lot of regulars but uh so yeah that's that is a good and another one who uh doesn't really get mentioned a lot who who's more of a defensive back. He gets used everywhere. And he hasn't been great, but Greedy Williams, what do you guys think of him? Why are we just mentioning Browns players?

Well, we're talking about players in that secondary because when everyone talks about that Browns defense, the only names you hear is Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward. I mean, Brady Williams is all right. I mean, I won't lie. I had some pretty high expectations for him coming out, but, like, eh, not really. I am not really impressed with what I've seen to be brutally honest.

So far, yeah, it's kind of eh, and we'll see. Yeah, see, I had high expectations for him as well, but if he's your number three corner right now, that's pretty solid. I don't mind that. Now,

onto our next response was Grayson Mortimer who said Jair. That's not underrated. What? He's not underrated. Yeah, so all of us had him top three. I had him top two, and so did Tuck.

I think the only way he could be underrated is just because he got hurt last year. But, I mean, I had him as my number one corner last uh during last year's last summer's player rankings so i guess that's the only way that there were a couple responses especially last uh last year or excuse me last week's fan box where darius leonard was mentioned as an underrated corner and there was also uh somebody said micah hyde, too. And, of course, those are great corners. Good picks for, excuse me, corners. Those are good linebackers, good picks, but just not exactly underrated, you know? Yeah.

So this is going to be a tough pronunciation. But, CJ. Can I pronounce it? Because I know who it is. Please do. From the Detroit Lions, Amani Aruwariye. All right. Elaborate on your pick.

Now, a lot of people might not know who he is because he is on the Lions, which is a very sad team. But consider this, if you will. Last season as a corner, 57 tack 57 tackles 44 solo 11 passes deflected and six interceptions now his coverage he's only in his he's entering his fourth year his coverage stats are average but that's definitely something he can iron out as you know as he settles into dan campbell's defensive scheme and i just he's solely and look when you look at his numbers there's a very valid

argument to be made that he's only underrated solely because he's on the lions and if he were on a big market team you know like uh the 49ers or the Patriots or the Cowboys, yeah, everybody would know who he was. Don't put him on the Cowboys. No, no, I'm just saying, like, I'm just naming big market teams. And if he was on a big market team, I have no doubt in my mind he'd be a household name. A difficult household name to pronounce, but a household name nonetheless.

Well, Giannis Antetokounmpo is household name to pronounce but a household name nonetheless well janice ended a kumpo was pretty tough to to pronounce but after hearing it a million times now people have it down uh but how do you know who he is because i i didn't know who he is either that's been a word of me oh uh i have a friend that told me about him like a friend like from dean that you know was really into him. And he asked me funny questions all the time. He said, are you a big Amani Arouarie guy? And I'm like, who's that? And then he showed me. I said, oh, I am now.

That guy's a beast. Look, he is underrated, I guess, if he's a number two or three corner. In 14 games, 671 yards allowed in pass coverage last season. And nearly 900 yards the season prior. Yeah, the season prior. I'm talking about going into this season. So he literally shaved off roughly 300 yards. About 170. what was it like shaved off roughly 300 yards and then about like yeah about about 170 about 170

wait what i thought you said like 670 one oh so i i thought in my head 690 i'm sorry but either way i'll put it on the calculator right now 844 i'm sorry i, I heard 619. I don't know why. 71 equals 173. So he shaved off 173. I look at the NFC North. Look at who we had to go up against. Guys like Allen Robinson, Darnell

Mooney, and who could forget Devante Adams and Jay Jeddas and Adam Thielen. That's not an easy division to be cornering. The fact he puts up those numbers, and keep in mind, 671 is not even that bad. But when you factor in that division, come on, you got to give him his respect. Yeah, 11 passes defended wasn't bad, and seven in 2020 was solid. When you factor the division, yeah, sure, he is underrated because nobody knows who he is.

I'm just nitpicking, I guess. Just nitpicking, looking around at his statistics. I believe you're giving him what you call the JC Jackson treatment. Okay, that's a little far. That's a little tough. But Cash Durasin, and I messed this one up when I was responding to the fan boxes, said Troy Hill. So I didn't – a lot of stuff happened this offseason,

and I have come to – it has come to my attention that Troy Hill was traded back to the Browns. Excuse me, to the Rams. I was about to say that. Yeah, I was like, wait, what? Why did they play a potato with him? So Troy Hill, that is big for them because they just lost their previous number two corner.

And now they get one to replace him. And he may not be the the guy who they they had before him however this is this is a good one for them because that was a big that was a big hole for them a number two corner past jaylen ramsey because they don't really have much depth at the position but that was cash drassin who said, uh, Troy Hill. Yeah. That's certainly a, a really, a good observation there, you know, with, uh, with the Rams. And I mean, I definitely think that once again on his old team, you know, they just want a Superbowl.

He's going to be eager to like try to help him go back to back. And, uh, I easily be a good compliment to Ramsey. I would expect. Yeah. Um, he'll be solid. Steven Parker said Chidobe Awuze on the Bengals. Cincinnati. He played for the Cincinnati Bengals, was the number one to EMI Apple's horrendous number two. He didn't play good. Bengals was the number one to Eli Apple's horrendous number two. Yeah.

It's just that everybody kept targeting Eli Apple and really didn't make much of a difference. Yeah. Yeah. This was probably Woozie's best season last year, you know? Yeah. You know, he was on that Bengals Super Bowl appearing defense and, you know, but it's just, I don't think he's like a solid – I don't think he's like the number one though.

That's just me. Now they have Dax Hill. Exactly. You're assuming you don't need the corner. You're assuming that. It should be. Dax Hill is a beast at Michigan. We can put him anywhere.

If you can put him anywhere, you need to put him at outside corner so you can put Eli somewhere where he can't mess things up. What about the bench? They drafted him as a safety. Also, delete his Twitter account. He's not distracted. Delete his Twitter account. He can't delete his Twitter.

He would have to openly delete it. I'm not sure. Delete it. Twitter, get on that. Elon Musk, make it so. Hey, they did it to the the former president why not do it to uh the the next the next best threat to world peace oh absolutely eli apple and eli apple the next dictator supreme dictator of cincinnati eli apple uh hey with the way he tweets you would think that

all right dal i believe this is uh his name is dalton christiansen we had a lot of new new uh fan box responses levi wallace oh yeah that is yeah yes and the steelers what was the contract pittsburgh game like two years eight million something like that two years eight million8 million, something like that? Two years, $8 million. Yeah, that's a bargain. No, that's not a bargain.

That's highway robbery. That guy, he's physical. He picks off the ball. He's got a good football IQ. But, you know, being overshadowed by Tredavious White and Buffalo, that'll happen. But this, let me tell you, once his contract's up in pittsburgh he's probably gonna get a fat payday because this guy is a monster you know and just in the way he plays and let me also say just look reading these names and seeing who their number

number two uh two makes me feel bad that i left them out of the top five. Like, Tredavious White made none of our top fives. He didn't tear us ACL. It's just how good our top five is. I mean, there's a lot of good corners, you know? Exactly. Darius Slay had a very good season this year. Yeah. Didn't make the top five.

If we had a top ten, all of these names would be here. Yeah, but a top ten would take forever. Also, you guys ready for this next one am i am i really nick normand said gotta be jc jackson adam you want to take this away he's top five well he is top five stefan Diggs loves what you said. I'll say that much. I mean, yeah, I think he's top five, not top three. Maybe number four or five. I mean, from a highlight reel standpoint alone, but I don't know. He's not a big tackler.

He is, but he's not the biggest tackler. Plus, you know, like Stefan Diggs is literally his kryptonite. He is physically incapable of beating Stefan Diggs. But, I mean, I wouldn't call him underrated, though. Everybody and their mother has him at the bare minimum in the top ten. A lot of them have him top three. Listen, so I look a lot at coverage stats because I think being able to cover and limit the amount of yards is important.

So his lowest number was 2018 when he allowed 256 yards, when he happened to only play 47% of the snaps. And then the next lowest was 2019. He played, so he allowed 316 yards, 68% of the snaps. Then it goes up. He played 84% of snaps in 2020, and then he allows nearly 700 yards. In fact, you can give him 700 yards because 691, about nine yards off. So basically 700 yards because 691 about nine nine yards off so basically 700 yards then it goes up to 84

percent or excuse me 88 and 658 so like i said with uh xavian howard if these numbers if you mentioned him as like let's say a number two, a low-end number one. These would be great numbers. These would be pretty good. But this is one of the best corners. At least he's supposed to be regarded as one of the best corners in the entire league. And if he is, then you don't allow that many yards. Especially once your snap percentage goes up. And then your yards go way up

now i understand it's bound to happen a little bit because you're playing more snaps that means higher higher chance of failure on one of those plays however you just get like you i mentioned the coverage stats for a lot of the other corners who i have above him and i mean just come on look i love i like jc jackson i really do just not at the price that the charters gave him and he's still going to be a good corner for them just he's a little overpaid that's all all right uh ian malern said dante he said dionte jackson withay Jackson with an E in it. Dante Jackson. Just Dante Jackson.

Yeah, Dante Jackson with the Panthers. Carolina Panthers. Yeah. He's an interesting man. He's a good one. I like him. Oh, yeah, me too. I really wanted him

when he was coming out of the draft. He's a solid number one. And they got another kid out of the first round this past season. J.C. Horn. J.C. Horn, who got hurt. So we'll see if he gets healthy and he's able to play. There's a lot of corners. And as we continue to mention these names,

I'm forgetting about the NFL draft, this past NFL draft. And there's some good ones coming out of there. Derek Stingley Jr. and Ahmaud Gardner, those guys are going to be good, and they could make our top five next summer. All right, so our final response was Derek Houle, who said Rasul Douglas had a breakout in a half and is still underrated.

We talk a lot about Eric Stokes, not about Rasul Douglas. I want to say he's a little underrated. I want to say all the way underrated because everybody knows how good he was for the Packers when Jair Alexander went down. Heck, he even won them a game against the Cardinals. Everybody knows how good he is, but I remember when he was with the Eagles and he was doing that. So it's not really as much as underrated,

just that people forgot about him, which therefore made him underrated. So he was solid with them, but I'll tell you why it's different. And I'm pulling up the coverage stats again. In his two years in Philly, he allowed a combined 1,300 yards in two seasons. Wait, what? 1,302? So 700 and 600, around that? About high 600s in both of them. And then in one year with Carolina, nearly 800.

And then when he was with Green Bay, it dropped down to 350. So this was a breakout and a half. What's that? You're telling me he was putting up the same type of numbers as J.C. Jackson. He was putting up better numbers actually. And well, he did play 12 games as opposed to J.C. Jacksonson's i think it was a full season did he just play 12 games in both of them this is so this is 2021 i'm talking about where he he did 351 yards i'm talking about in 2017 and 18 seasons yeah did he play all 16 or did he just play 12 in each he played 16 and in uh

he played 16 and 18 and 19 and he played uh he played 14 in uh in 2020 and i'm looking at the snap percentages. So this was bad. The percentage of snaps that he played were roughly 50%. So he was allowing these numbers while playing only 50% of the snaps. So it could have been worse. In 2017, he didn't have a horrendous season in Philly, his rookie season, but as the years went on, it started to taper off. When he got to Green Bay, he played phenomenal.

He had his best season there. And there's no reason to believe that he can't do it again. He can certainly do it again. And now he's going to be facing worse competition for his wide receiver assignments because Jair Alexander is back in the mix. And then Eric Stokes is still there. So he's going to be facing the wide receiver two, wide receiver threes. So it's only going to get better for him and he's certainly underrated

i do like him yeah all right uh so that is it for our fan box responses but do you guys have any other any other thoughts before we end the show tonight marlin is top five i would like to counter by saying marlin is in fact not top five. Back to you, Adam. You guys are ridiculous, but okay. Thanks, CJ. And yeah, Marlon is not top five. I would have put him top five. I promise you, Tuck, I would have put him number five if he didn't get hurt at the end of the season.

Number five is crazy, but okay. Maybe number four. I think he would have had a better season than Xavier Hallard. So that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us. Be sure to tune in to us live Tuesdays at 7.30 on Twitter and Facebook through Fans Only Sports Network. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel.

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