The Fumblerooski Podcast - Still Standing -Ep 112 The Fumblerooski podcast

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

Is Tom Brady deserving of his #1 rank in the NFL 100? What are the 49ers thinking by keeping Jimmy Garoppolo? What are the best draft strategies in Fantasy Football? Adam Wright and CJ Medieros debate... these topics and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. The Touchdown! Jimmy Garoppolo has agreed to stay with the 49ers after months of trade talks and a twist of events. As we wrap up this preseason, you're listening to the Fumblerooski podcast by Power 88 dean radio and fans only sports network i'm adam right along with cj medeiros so yes we will touch on jimmy garoppolo's deal uh to restructure with the 49ers we'll also hit on some fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:01:27 But, CJ, how are you doing on this fine morning? And, yes, it is 8 o'clock in the morning where we are recording for you guys. Well, Adam, I'll admit it's a little earlier than we're used to. But, you know, you got to give the people what they want. Exactly. Time constraints as we wrap up this summer. We're both working. We're figuring things out. than we're used to but you know you got to give the people what they want exactly time constraints as we wrap up this summer we're both working we're figuring things out but we got to get your content out to you guys um but we're going to jump right into it so jimmy garoppolo has agreed to restructure
Starting point is 00:01:57 his deal to remain with the 49ers at least for the first part of this season. And so the deal is he's going to be making $15 million. That's total. That's what he can make total. $6.5 million guaranteed. So I believe he's going to be the highest paid backup this year. Yes, yes, he is. And that is going to be – that is actually nothing compared to what he was previously going to be making if he was going to stay as a backup because he was about to make 24.2 million
Starting point is 00:02:29 total i'm not sure about the guarantees but cj what do you think about this turn of events here well let me tell you what it means nobody wanted to trade for him. That's the thing. And I heard throughout like the off season, the Niners had like an asking price of about like at minimum a first round pick. And if you are the person who would say, oh yeah, I'd trade a first round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo. You are not worthy of watching football. Now it's just, I feel like they're still going to trade him. I really do. Because if I recall correctly, he's going, he was going to make 24 million this season. Now he's going to make 15 million with a manageable 6.5 million guaranteed. So like I said, that's a nice tradable contract. And I feel like they're banking on someone's starter going down, maybe a contender's starter going down, so then they can just pawn Jimmy G off on them for a decent price.
Starting point is 00:03:36 But I don't know why, but a weird feeling of mine says that maybe Cleveland should want to look into them. Because one, manageable contract, and two, if you start out the season 0-3, 0-4, like, you know, Bursette's just not getting it done, it might be worth a look, especially since Deshaun Watson's going to be out now 11 games, and you don't even know if he's going to be football ready when he comes back. He didn't even have that good of a preseason. So a one-year investment in Jimmy G might not be the worst thing, especially for Cleveland, which is where I personally think he's going to end up. Yeah. And looking at the Browns, that's a team that would definitely want to grab him since their current starter is Jacoby Brissett,
Starting point is 00:04:20 who I don't hate, but I don't love at the same time. I definitely love Jimmy Garoppolo, like Jimmy Garoppolo a little bit more. The Seahawks are another team that I think should be in on him. Yeah, but it's in the division, though. Yeah, but if you're going to – that's the team that needs him. And you've got to do what's best for your team, not just – I mean, the Seahawks are finishing last either way. They're just looking for a decent starter. And I was also looking at the Atlanta Falcons to be a possible team.
Starting point is 00:04:53 They are looking to rebuild, so they're building for the future. But if they dare, they try to go in on trying to develop Kyle Pitts and Drake London, those young pieces. I think Jimmy Garoppolo is the way to go with him. I think Marcus Mariota and Desmond Ritter, they can help him a little bit. They can help those guys a little bit, but I think you might need to need better pieces there, but either way. So it's obvious that looking at this, they're not going to, they're not just going to keep them on the roster for the whole year. This is a restructure because he had 24 mil on the books. And if you are looking to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, not just for a first round pick, for any pick in the top three rounds.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You're not getting that if that quarterback is making 24 mil that season. No one can afford that and no one wants to afford it for a quarterback of this caliber. Now, Jimmy Garoppolo, when he's healthy and he's at his best, I said this off camera. He's probably better than about a third of the entire NFL. And you can maybe make a case for half when he's at his absolute best. So looking at that, they really had to make this restructure because clearly nobody wanted to take that contract. You can make a case they don't even want to take that contract for like a sixth-round pick because it's just that ridiculous. You can make a case. They don't even want to make that to take that contract for like a sixth round pick because it's just that ridiculous. 24 mil, 24 mil he was previously
Starting point is 00:06:32 supposed to make. So now you turn that into six and a half million guaranteed 15 total. That's like, okay, that's quarterback money. It's backup quarterback money. And he is going to be the highest paid backup quarterback in the league. But at least it's not by the margin of $24 million. So they really had to do this. They had no choice if they really wanted to part ways with him. And it looks like they're going to go into the season with him and wait for a team to get desperate for him. Yeah, yeah. I mean mean that's one possibility or now hear me out maybe it's just insurance in case trey lance doesn't play well
Starting point is 00:07:17 we heard about you know the beginning of the preseason how lance wasn't uh you know apparently was like behind schedule about where they thought he'd be especially all of last season they said he was nowhere near ready when they drafted him and I've been hearing that he's still a little raw so maybe if he goes in doesn't play well maybe they start out the season like two and five then I would totally think that Jimmy G would be great insurance or maybe Trey Lance gets hurt as running quarterbacks often do then I would totally think that Jimmy G would be great insurance. Or maybe Trey Lance gets hurt as running quarterbacks often do. Then I would say Jimmy G is like a, just an extra year of insurance. Maybe just, you know, it was like a safety net,
Starting point is 00:07:52 like in case Lance isn't doing too well. Yeah. I mean, it has, it has looked like the 49ers have been adamant that this is Trey Lance's team. They've said it publicly. They've said it over and over again. This is Trey Lance's team. They've said it publicly. They've said it over and over again. This is Trey Lance's team. Even Garoppolo has come out and said, yeah, I'm not the starter anymore. It's Trey Lance. And he has looked a little bit raw. So I was on the show with Chris Hitu a few weeks ago. He is the podcast director for Fans Only Sports Network. And we were talking about Trey Lance and here's the thing with him. So he's a project
Starting point is 00:08:33 who's going into his second year into the league. So players like that going into their second year in the league and going into their first year starting, Lamar Jackson. And technically, Lamar Jackson started a bunch of games, but he was kind of a project. He was kind of just out there. Patrick Mahomes. He didn't start at all last season. I think he got one start his rookie year when they just basically sat their starters. Both of those players, in their their sophomore seasons won league MVP.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And also reports coming out of training camp and preseason were saying the same thing. They were saying he doesn't look ready. Lamar Jackson's having trouble throwing the football. Patrick Mahomes looks a little inaccurate. And they figured things out. And again, one league MVP, and they both had very good rosters around him. What does Trey Lance have around him? A very good roster, good offensive line, good pieces to throw to good defenses, uh, to go along with it. I'm not, I'm not too, I don't know. Like the more I i go into i look at this off season the more i like trey lance i the more i like him and if we really want to reach to there was carson
Starting point is 00:09:53 wentz who went into his second year and he was the lead he was the leading candidate for mvp for a while now again this that's this is to a lesser extent because we know how Carson Wentz is nowadays, ever since that 2017 campaign, which was his second year. But, again, a player who was a project went into his second year and he lit it up. Here's Trey Lance. Project. Second year. Reports are very unsure about him. Could possibly light it up. I'm very optimistic about Trey Lance. I am.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just not, but, you know, we can obviously, like, agree to disagree and such. But I will say this. What do I always say on this show? So-and-so has no reason to suck. And I will say the same thing about trey lance there's no reason not to succeed on that offense and if you don't well you're you're gonna have like your third year that would hypothetically be your put up or shut up year but yeah this is
Starting point is 00:10:57 like a good chance you know get your feet wet and such and uh yeah you're taking third overall. It's time to prove your worth. That's right. And one guy has proven his worth time and time again, and it showed on NFL's annual Top 100, a certain 45-year-old quarterback, a dinosaur, has been named to the NFL's annual Top 100. We'll touch on that next. Don't go anywhere. This is the Fulber Ruski podcast. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch.
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Starting point is 00:12:21 Adam Wright here with CJ Medeiros and so Tom Brady in his eight going into his age 45 season has been named number one the number one guy in all of the league. And this isn't by just some biased fan base. And usually the fan base has actually been the most critical on him, right? The NFL fans have been the ones who are saying he's a system quarterback. He has these great defenses. He's lucky he had Bill Belichick, product of the system, all that stuff. But the players, the league, the front offices,
Starting point is 00:13:16 they've all been saying great things about him. And not only this, it just made me want to bring this up. So the Raiders have been recently rumored from UFC president Dana White. Now take that with what you, what you will. I mean, Rob Gronkowski validated it, but apparently the Raiders were this close to landing Tom Brady in free agency and John Gruden vetoed it. And there was also the Dolphins who have been
Starting point is 00:13:46 disciplined for illegally talking to him while he was on, on, while he was under contract for not only the Patriots when he was 42, but also for the Buccaneers when he was 44. So no shortage of faith around the league in Tom Brady, but CJ, what do you think of Brady still being up there? Highly ranked. What do you think? Yeah, he was arguably like the best player in the league that season. And I read a lot of comments on the top of my head. I was like, oh oh my god this list is wrong oh boo hoo Aaron Rodgers was the MVP why have some news for you cheese heads Aaron Rodgers should not have been MVP Brady literally led the league in passing yards and passing touchdowns in the age of 44 and Rodgers
Starting point is 00:14:39 Packers literally disappeared in the playoffs losing to a team that didn't even score an offensive touchdown. Now, and I'm not saying Washington's good, but Brady's just that much better. And furthermore, it's just Brady's just excellent. And for those of you keeping track at home, this is the fourth time. Yes, the fourth time since the top 100 was created in 2011 that Brady's been listed number one. And I believe the eighth time that he's been voted in the top 100 was created in 2011 that Brady's been listed number one and I believe the eighth time that he's been voted in the top three so for all the fans out there like that Adam mentioned you know criticize oh he's a system quarterback yada yada yada you're stupid you really are I know it's not the most analytical thing, but you're really stupid. And let me tell you why. All you do is moan and complain and crap all over Tom Brady. But 10 bucks says your favorite player respects the living hell out of them.
Starting point is 00:15:34 What does that say about you? And it's like, and I love how it's like, oh, the players voted on this list. I disagree with the players. I know more. No, no, you don't. And if you think you do, no, you don't. And if you think you do, get a lobotomy. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And here's some free advice. Tom Brady deserved to be number one, and he is still the best quarterback in the league. And yeah, Rodgers went back-to-back MVPs, and I will die on the hill that he should not have won it last year. And like I said, this is voted on the players, and you don't know what the players know. So yeah, Brady totally deserved it. And to do what he's doing at this age,
Starting point is 00:16:12 when other greats like Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning basically turn to dust at this point in their careers, is nothing short of insane. Sorry for the vent. That's just my rant of the day what do you think adam yeah i mean i i agree with most of what you said um and not only as i as i mentioned uh opening this segment it's not just the players the front office they're uh player like these player development uh staff they're all saying they're they're all saying they're going through,
Starting point is 00:16:46 they're jumping through hoops to get this guy. So it's not like it's just the players who are like, oh, I respect the hell out of him. He, you know, he has a, he has a great heart. He fights hard, which is all true, but the analytics are looking at it that way too. And I just think, I'm sorry. I think passer rating is a little overrated of a statistic. I just don't, I just think it's a little, it's, it's a problem that people say it's such an important statistic, but how many people actually know how it's calculated? I know it's frigging weird. It's like out of 158.3, the most random number in the world. It's like, it's so complicated for how it's calculated. For a sport that's fairly simple, you throw the ball from point A to point B
Starting point is 00:17:43 and you hope your O-line protects you and you try not to be too predictable you you you hand the ball off every now and then and now now there's a lot of different formations you do but i mean the concept is fairly simple is it not get the ball from point a to point b get the ball to the end zone but there's all these analytics to it that has you know like i just think pass like people use passer rating they say it's such an important statistic but they don't know what it is it's like how can you know if you don't know how it's if you don't know how it's how it's calculated like what you should be looking at is let's say completion percentage you should be looking at uh passing yards and your touchdown to interception ratio that's what
Starting point is 00:18:35 you should be looking at and yeah there's there look at the roster around you how's the offensive line how are the how are his targets and that should be it, isn't it? And then I guess, yes, coaching. Coaching is something you want to involve too. But I just think passer rating is something that's gained a little bit too much ground in recent years. It's become the end-all, be-all. And I'm sorry, but just look at the pass array, the all-time rankings. Kirk Cousins is ranked eighth.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah, and that should tell you something, you know? Kirk Cousins is ranked eighth. Kirk Cousins should not be top eight in any quarterback statistic, sorry. And I'm pretty sure Russell Wilson is ranked fifth. And I love Russell Wilson, I do. He's a very good quarterback, but he's not fifth in the entire league also brett farve is like 20th and and i'm pretty sure joe montana is like barely like i think he's top 15 is is joe montana not top 15 and being a i don't think so yeah he's top three he's a top three quarterback of all time
Starting point is 00:19:47 and it's like oh passer rating says he's top 15 you know it's analytics they're ruining sports man let me look at keep keep talking i'm gonna look at the i'm gonna look at this yeah okay so look i mean passer rating in football now look as you know the show, I'm not much of a baseball guy, but that's kind of like your spin count in baseball. It's stupid. It's needless and it's overrated. And it's also kind of like efficiency in basketball. What?
Starting point is 00:20:15 Oh, yeah. Like, oh, your efficiency numbers are so bad. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. It's overrated. It really is. Am I am I incorrect? Cause like when you just go just by
Starting point is 00:20:28 the numbers, like you can build a team up just solely by analytics and across all sports, it has never worked. A team built solely by analytics has never won a big game. All right. So you ready for this? Uh, probably not, but go ahead. Guess where Dan Marino is ranked in in passer rating all time i don't know like 11th 41st what yeah dan marino's a top 10 quarterback of all time exactly yeah see guess what so i thought brett farb was 20th he's actually 42 no way wait who's number one all time who's number one yeah it's patrick mahomes aaron rogers is number two uh and patrick mahomes has a good but but you know and they've only been around for
Starting point is 00:21:14 especially mahomes he's only been around for so long and this is according to pro football reference so i wish they could go by how long teams have been in the league but i also didn't forgot i i and so russell wilson's now number four deshaun watson's three oh boy dac prescott is number six the most and actually kurt cousins is a step higher he's actually number seven tom brady's eight and tony romo's number nine and i still haven haven't, I actually haven't even found Joe Montana yet. Yeah, people, the only top 10 quarterbacks in there are Rogers and Brady. No one else is in the top 10. Joe Montana, I found him.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Joe Montana's 18th and he's behind Derek Carr at 17. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. So people that use Pastor rating as the end-all be-all, I hope you picked up your ears for this segment because, yeah, so passer rating would suggest
Starting point is 00:22:14 that Derek Carr is better than Joe Montana. I hope you realize how just stupid that is. Exactly. And apparently it has Brett Favre not even being a hall of famer so yeah and and dan marino i guess is uh is in the same boat 41st in passer rating but apparently i mean good lord good lord all these guys shaking my head i just i just wanted to i just wanted to touch on that because passer rating is a big argument used by Aaron Rodgers guys.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And look, I feel like I single out Rodgers a lot. And I think a lot of it is because of the fans. A lot of his fans are like passer rating, passer rating, passer rating. Completion percentage, completion percentage, completion percentage. I actually haven't – I want to look at the stats. Regular season. We'll do that another time. Regular season that that's what i say about rogers exactly but i mean looking at i just wanted to take a look at the passer rating stats because it actually it is actually really skewed it's it's really stupid um all right but we're gonna move on to our fan box where we're going to talk some fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:23:26 We get into some draft strategies that you guys do. We wanted to get a little bit of that, see what you guys do, because we are in the heart of fantasy draft season. So I want to see what you guys are up to. Maybe take some notes at a little bit. But all right. We'll get to that next. Don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:23:45 You're listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. We'll be right back. Yes! No sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's caught! To Gates! Side-line! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Slings it way down the field to Watkins!
Starting point is 00:24:33 Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! You are listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Fans Only Sports Network. I'm Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros. So we have reached our fan box. So we post a question filter on our Instagram every Monday, and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more, and we will discuss it and give you a shout-out on our podcast. Respond to next week's fan box question to be featured on our show. So our question of the week was,
Starting point is 00:24:59 what is your favorite draft strategy in fantasy football? So we lead off with Brady Kudo, who said, always take running back first. That seems pretty standard, I would say. It's a safe way to go. It's the scarcest position in fantasy football so usually that's what people do um in terms of importance i would say running back and wide receivers actually fairly even it's especially nowadays because wide receivers are getting more and more involved in their offense especially the number ones and they they put up kind of the same numbers at this point so the the only difference with running back is it's a it's a scarcer position it's hard to find that bell cow back nowadays uh but ian muller ian mulhern said a guy who gets a good amount of touchdowns and catches
Starting point is 00:26:00 so essentially the red zone threat the guy who gets a bunch of touchdowns he's they and they he's labeled touchdown dependent and i understand why people would be scared away by that because touchdowns sometimes aren't what you can control because that's really good come can come down to what who the quarterback wants to throw to but if you like if you're able to get open that many times in the red zone that tells me that tells me something it tells me something and it's an underrated it's an underrated stat touchdowns touchdown dependent you don't get that many yards but i guess if you're getting tough if you're getting catches too then you're getting the yards as well and if you're in ppr and he's getting he's getting
Starting point is 00:26:45 catches then and touchdowns then there you go uh derrick cool said draft to win don't draft to lose take some shots what's that he said don't draft not to lose because you know there's a difference did i say don't draft to lose yeah yeah no one drafts to lose don't don't draft not to lose yeah yeah i mean he has a good point especially like if you're playing that safe conservative style of fantasy football you know playing not to lose just because you don't want to come in last that's not fun yeah and the way i look at this uh this statement is kind of a lot of people like they go so hard on drafting based on their positional need and they say oh i need a running back i need a wide receiver when a player who isn't a positional need but is going to be a fantasy superstar is available to
Starting point is 00:27:39 you take that player take that player and if that superstar quarterback is around and the wide receiver and running back is, which is, I doubt is going to happen because, you know, I feel like in the first eight rounds, you're going to find a wide receiver who's worth it. But yeah, I would say I agree with this. I mean, sometimes you just have to scrap the positional need and say I'm looking for good fantasy players, taking the best player available. So I do like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Jack Briel said, My strategy is in the early rounds rotate between wide receiver and running back. So as I mentioned, running back and wide receiver, the most, undisputedly, the most important positions in fantasy football. And especially early on, you want to go running back because after the first few rounds of these drafts, it gets really, you're basically basically drafting on upside not based on if
Starting point is 00:28:46 the if this guy can play or not and there's some good players who i can recommend you guys take who are running backs late later in rounds i know breese hall is going really late and i think that kid's going to be pretty good damian pierce on the texans too yep yep and i'm trying to think of other players. Tony Pollard is a guy who's going really late, who I think is going to be a lot better than people think. And I think he's going to take on a bigger role this year than he did last year.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And it could turn into a one-two punch. He could take over that backfield, but I don't want to get too off. Eli Turner said, if it's an early pick running back, late pick wide receiver. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's pretty standard. He means like late in like your first round.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Like if you're picking last, like, yeah. You know, your Devontae Adamses, your Cooper Cups, that's standard, especially like later there. But if you're taking like a wide receiver like cooper cup second i i'm gonna have to give you the funny eyebrow you know just gotta raise my eyebrow at you like why why'd you do that you shouldn't do that yeah and i like cooper cop just to mention just just because you brought him up i like cooper cop and he had an incredible year there's no two ways about it but this is his first year where he was truly elite
Starting point is 00:30:05 he's always been like borderline top 10 more like top 15 this was the really the year where he just exploded he just came out and uh i don't know i think i i think i believe a little more in justin jefferson and uh Jamar Chase going into this year. Not that they had better years last year. I just think they're more reliable to be able to repeat what they've done because they've just been doing it constantly. I know Jamar Chase, technically, he's going into his second year, but he's been incredible even in college and everything.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But, yeah. And then, then like if you go wide receive but here's the thing if you go wide receiver with your first pick you have to take a running back the next pick yeah that's the law that's that's fantasy law especially if it's late at that point so like let's say you have the last pit if you if it's a snake draft you have let's say you have the last pick in um let's say you have the last pick in the first round you take jamar chase you take justin jefferson you take davante adams then you then you turn around quickly and you take let's say if he's available i don't think naji will be available oh he might be there's there's nick chubb well let's go nick chubb then that's a that's a very solid one-two punch and then i would say you go running back the next uh the next round as well with your next pick because that goes quick um all right so cash withers said gotta go with kicker
Starting point is 00:31:41 well it is football isn't it yeah fantasy football listen five kickers i know this is a joke i know this this i know this was a joke but i don't take kicker till the last pick maybe second to last of like justin tucker's on the board or something like that second to last i go defense they're they're really listen you can get away with streaming defenses you can get away with streaming quarterbacks you can get away with streaming kickers you can't get away with streaming running backs and wide receivers that's not really can't like maybe once in a while you'll get that you'll take that player if you really need it and you'll get some you'll get some production but if you rely on that you're gonna you're probably you're probably a bottom
Starting point is 00:32:30 you're you're you're gonna be a bottom dwelling uh bottom dwelling team uh in your league it's just it's just gonna happen that's the truth but yeah honestly like i'll tell you what i did during my fantasy draft uh my recent one i with my last pick because i have so little respect for the kicker position i took cal i took colin kaepernick wait what i didn't take a kicker i just took colin kaepernick see now i do now now why would you do that i don't know we were like exactly it's funny ah geez you are something else yeah but i'm gonna i released him and then i took a kicker later off the waiver wire now but you didn't need to oh geez man and i'm pretty sure i got ryan suck up out of it so you hurt me on a spiritual level that bad the kicker the kicker position
Starting point is 00:33:27 does not matter that much yeah okay apparently so um cola dj said trace mcsorley first pick always i really thought he was going to be so good i really did in the league he's in that song, isn't he? Yeah. I don't know what the song is called. I just, I just know it's on a tick tock a lot and I'm not a big tick tock guy and I'm not going to sing it. You guys aren't going to hear me sing.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Screw that. I don't even know what the song is. So go look it up. Like throwing on a dime or some stupid stuff like that. But yeah. Yeah. Go in. Take him with the last pick. Like Chase McShirley throwing on a dime or some stupid stuff like that. But, yeah, yeah. Go in – take him with the last pick. Take him with the last pick of the draft.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Take him with the last pick instead. Isaac Zonana said, go for a good quarterback running back wide receiver trio and kicker last because it really doesn't matter which kicker you get he went to the adam wright school of kicker hatred it's not listen you know what you know what our league what our what our league is called yeah i do know yep kicker lives do matter. You want to say it or should I? Yeah, they do. Kicker lives do matter. That's a fact. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But, yeah, the quarterback running back wide receiver trio, is it like – so I'm confused as to what he means. So does he mean like just take one from one from one team another from another team and then or like i think he just means like like let's say i'm trying to think of a team that has like a good quarterback a good wide receiver and a good running back no no he means like for if you want a good fantasy you have like an elite quarterback running back and wide receiver yeah but there are draft strategies where people look at like teams that have like an elite player at each position like actual teams right like let's say the kansas city
Starting point is 00:35:32 chiefs um or actually uh scrap that um let's look at the chargers right they have justin herbert austin eckler keenan allen you go with that offense and you ride and die with it because it's just a well-run offense. Perhaps. I just hear something that a lot of fantasy owners do that. I've done it before. I do not like that strategy. I've done it.
Starting point is 00:36:00 In 2016, I had Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, cooper latavius murray worked out pretty well i finished 10 and 4 that year um and it was a very it was a very underrated trio too everybody overlooked my team but uh daniel blazy blaziac said don't take a quarterback or tight end early there's always better value there do not take a quarterback first round if you do shame yeah it's uh yeah like you yeah not even in the just the first round maybe even in the first six rounds six is usually where i go but you know whatever it may be because it's just such a deep position it's just so deep that you can just you can get you can still get value and as i said during the season you can stream quarterbacks you can't stream running backs and wide receivers so So stack up on those players. And if you're really lacking at the quarterback position, when the season gets going, then trade some of
Starting point is 00:37:09 your quarter, your running back or wide receiver depth for a quarterback. There you go. Uh, Connor Fallon said, take running back, wide receiver, running back, then quarterback and tight end later. So I think he's, I think he's going by round running back, then quarterback, and tight end later. That's solid. I think he's going by round. Running back, wide receiver, running back. Quarterback, tight end. So as I said, fourth round's a little early for a quarterback, and fifth round's definitely early for a tight end for me. And I know Travis Kelsey exists,
Starting point is 00:37:39 but I'm still not a big fan of the tight end position. It's just you can wait a little bit late and get a tight end who can put up double-digit points and then just go and, in the meantime, just go and get all these running backs and wide receivers. As you can tell, I'm very high on those two positions um secret well secret weapon consulting said whatever cj does stacked team adam you want me to explain this yes all right so for some of our listeners who don't know because i know a lot of them do in one of my fantasy leagues i had like this great draft because people were drafting quarterbacks in the first and second round, so I got a lot of good players.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Keep in mind, it's an eight-person league, and I was drafting seventh. And I managed to draft a team of Aaron Rodgers, Austin Eckler, Najee Harris, Jamar Chase, A.J. Brown, Michael Pittman, Mark Andrews, David Montgomery, Daniel Carlson, and the Colts defense. Not a bad team. Yeah. Wait, were you running that account when you – because I know you answer with your personal, but was this your – No, no, that's not me. That's not me.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Okay. Is it your dad? Perhaps. Okay. Here's one that had CJ and I giggling a little bit. Zachary Stilson said, Pick Patrick Mahomes first and trade him to a Chiefs fan for an ungodly return. Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Hey, they love their Mahomes. See, Chiefs fans, and rightfully so, they are over the moon for Patrick Mahomes. They love that guy. He's their messiah. And so looking at him, when they draft in fantasy, they're going to have a big-time bias towards him. So if you're not a Chiefs fan,
Starting point is 00:39:59 pick Patrick Mahomes and then say, I want this guy, this guy, and this guy. And chances are they might give it up. Now I'm sure a lot of chiefs fans aren't crazy, but I'm sure you could pull something off like this. Yeah. It's not the worst idea in the world. I'd reckon so.
Starting point is 00:40:18 All right. So we got two responses from Nick Norman. The first saying avoid injury prone players and draft heavy on running backs. Yeah. So the most injury-prone players are always the running backs. And the problem with that is it's tough to predict when they become injury-prone because they start off their careers and they're really good,
Starting point is 00:40:38 and it seems like they can go on forever. We have the David Johnsons of the world from the 2016 season right that was his 16 17 yeah 16 17 season there's christian mccaffrey there's todd girley all players who started their careers and you know they were healthy they were they were it was smooth sailing then they just started getting hurt and they were never the same again and everybody they're still getting drafted but i mean you know they're only getting drafted because of their names pretty much yeah so it's really it's really tough to predict and i love jonathan taylor excuse me i love dalvin cook i've drafted
Starting point is 00:41:25 him plenty of years but i think he's he's going to be entering one of those years where he's just he's going to be in and out and he's already been getting hurt a lot but this is going to be a year where i think it's going to be a disaster for him same with derrick henry too yeah um and here we have uh nick norman again he said also wait to get a defense on the waiver wire yeah so so i said i said so i was i was willing to wait to take a kicker off the waiver wire but like that's a kicker a defense i mean defense is a little bit more important than kicker is it not yeah slightly especially like if it's a good one going against a bad team it can get you like 20 points either way both positions aren't the most uh aren't the most important and you could probably probably get away with it. Again, you can get away with streaming defenses.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Grayson Mortimer said, avoid Christian McCaffrey, Saquon, and Julio. Draft a running back or stellar wide receiver first. Yeah, I agree, especially with Christian McCaffrey. When I was picking in my most recent fantasy draft, he was on the board and I took Austin Eckler instead because you can almost bank on McCaffrey. When I was picking in my most recent fantasy draft, he was on the board and I took Austin Eckler instead because you can almost bank on McCaffrey playing only six games. Yeah, and those will be the best six games you will ever see any running back play. Pretty much, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But the problem is it's only six games and it's not worth a first-round pick. If he falls somehow maybe draft him i guess i mean the the upside's still there uh saquon is finally falling in drafts he's been going in the first round or at least close to it pretty much every year and it's maybe maybe one of the biggest scams in fantasy football you know he had a great first year he was all right his second year but man he hasn't done anything since also julio jones isn't getting drafted he he i i've done a couple mock drafts i've done a couple actual drafts so far like he's not like he's just not getting drafted so i don't think you need to worry about that uh noah habitler i think it's
Starting point is 00:43:47 habitler he so he's going by round running back running back tight end wide receiver unless you really love travis kelsey i would not go tight end of the third round i took mine in like the fourth i want to say i yeah i think that's what he's what he's looking at is i i i assume he's a so running back running back i like but tight end in the third wide receiver in the fourth i mean there's some good wide receivers in the fourth round and there's some good receivers that go as far back as like rounds like 10 like it's a it's a deep position this year but that still doesn't underscore it that still underscores it's it doesn't uh undersell its importance i would say uh and tight end is just a position it doesn't have that much depth but i would still wait to get one um but that's all the
Starting point is 00:44:39 that's all the responses we got. Pretty good turnout. 15 responses. But CJ, any other thoughts before we end the show tonight? Do not draft a quarterback in the first round or I will materialize in your house. Just kidding. I'm not going to do that. My name is CJ Medeiros and I approve this message. Oh, yeah. There's your fantasy PSA from CJ Medeiros. cj maderos yes sir all right well that'll do it
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