The Fumblerooski Podcast - Stolen Valor -Ep 244 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Damar Hamlin over Joe Flacco? Would Joe Burrow be MVP if not for injuries? Offensive Rookie of the Year biased towards quarterbacks? Adam Wright and CJ Medeiros compare their preseason Honors Award predictions to what actually happened!

the NFL honors ceremony has come and gone and we are going to compare our preseason picks for these awards to what actually happened last night this is the Fumble Rooski podcast here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's a catch. It's caught. To Gates. Sideline.

Touchdown. Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field to Watkins. Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Seeker Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros. And, uh, if I,

if you guys didn't get it from me on our Tuesday episode, happy Superbowl week, we are officially two days from the greatest day in the league, uh, in the league calendar, which is Superbowl Sunday. I understand some of us may not be thrilled by the matchup, but the Superbowl but the Super Bowl is

the Super Bowl. It's always a great time and I'm very excited for it. But during this week, there's one football related event that has nothing to do with the Super Bowl, which is the AP NFL honors ceremony, where they give out all the different awards, all the rookie of the year awards, the defensive and offensive player of the year awards, MVP, comeback player of the year, and all that stuff. And what we do every year, me and CJ, is during the preseason, we give our predictions on what we believe, who we believe is going to bring home these awards. And then by the time the day after the ceremony goes by, like months later, we compare our answers

and see exactly how right and how wrong we were. This is always a fun one. Now, for reference, this episode, it was It's an Honor, episode 202. This episode aired on August 8th. It is now January 9th. Jesus, February 9th. So, quite some time.

I believe that's seven months? Yeah, math isn't mapping, but yeah. Yeah, quite a while. So, you ready to get started, CJ? Always, man. This is going to be a fun one all right we'll start off with defensive rookie of the year so the winner of this award was will anderson jr he was the third overall pick in the 2023 nfl. CJ, I understand that you got this one correct? I did, yeah.

I picked Will Anderson. Yeah. Listen, at the time, I remember I was explaining this pick, and I said, I understand the pick. I just wanted to give another one that is something that's different from the popular answer that you could make an argument for because it's not always the player who's projected. In fact, most of the time it's not the player who's projected to be the best one in that draft,

best defensive player in that draft. I picked Christian Gonzalez and I will die on this hill. If he didn't tear his labrum, I think he might've brought home this award, but injuries do happen. You can't predict them. We don't have a crystal ball. So I think, I think I deserve to be off the hook here. Yeah,

Adam, I, I completely agree. And I happen to believe when you're predicting awards, you just, you can't predict injuries of all things. You can't predict. Like if we were going to

try to predict injuries then why would we even bother you know yeah and at this point I I'm not going to give you any flack for it and for the record I also happen to share the same mindset if he plays the entire season he very well could have taken it home I think he was already playing better than Witherspoon and uh but yeah Anderson, he already just had the stats and the star power and the Texans actually winning a playoff game to seal it for him. So yeah, I'm not mad and I'm just glad I got it right. Yeah. That's what it comes down to. And I will say, I did expect it to be closer with other players. Jalen Carter was another one who I thought might actually be winning it. Devin Witherspoon was another one.

Him and Christian Gonzalez were compared very closely in the beginning of the year before Gonzalez got hurt. But both had really good seasons. And, I mean, even though they didn't bring home the award, very, very bright futures for all these young kids. Yeah. All right. Next one, offensive rookie of the year. This is what, so the guy who won it was CJ Stroud and it's very hard to argue against Stroud here. There was an argument made for Nakua, for Puka Nakua, because he, rightfully so, he quite literally had

the best rookie year in wide receiver history. The reason I side with CJ Stroud is because it is very hard to be an elite quarterback as a rookie. And he flirted with that line all season long. In fact, you can probably, he would probably be there if he didn't miss a few games this season. He only threw for about what?

23 touchdowns, 21, something along those lines. I don't have the stats in front of me, but I know we had 26 total, which is good. So it's very hard to be a great quarterback this early in your career. Usually it takes a couple of years.

The fact that Stroud really hit the ground running, especially given the roster that he had, the less than favorable targets that he was given, I think it works out. The offensive line was solid, but it was injured early on in the season. He had some things to overcome. So he deserved it. That being said, our preseason picks were way off. I picked Jackson Smith and Jigba.

So here's the lore for me, for the rookies of the year. In 2022, right before that season, I picked Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner to be the rookies of the year in 2022, right before that season, I picked Garrett Wilson and sauce gardener to be the rookies of the year. I was correct. I swept the rookie of the year awards. Um, I went the same route this year with wide receivers. I thought Jackson Smith and Jigba was the best coming out of the draft. Clearly I was wrong, but I will say, Jack, I will say Smith and Jigba was okay. He may be a good wide receiver one a year or so from now, but he wasn't close this year. He showed some promise, but he's not near the level of Metcalf, and he's not at Tyler Lockett's level either. So as CJ said during that episode, he's wide receiver three right now.

And CJ, who did you pick oh i picked bijan robinson and for the record can i at least get the consolation prize of saying that cj's jab is going to be the best quarterback in this draft it's early yet but i'll take my small wins but i believe that bijan could have got it however i don I don't know if you heard, he had an injury. An injury named Arthur Smith. Now, Arthur Smith, he's a real character, isn't he? And he was fired for, you know, I'm not going to like lay into it too hard.

He was fired for being bad. Oh, yeah. Like this man, this man this man i just i mean apparently the phrase if it ain't broke don't fix it is foreign to him because he refuses to use his best players it wasn't just bijan drake london suffered kyle pitts continues to suffer so yeah i feel like with a better coach he probably could have but yeah it's still cj stratton it's also kind of a quarterback award well cj cj um yo he still rushed for nearly a thousand yards yeah but he had over a thousand scrimmage yards yeah but 4.6 yards thanks arthur smith you won't use him in the red zone right and he has the size to actually get into the ends he is

he is the complete back he is the bell cow that every fantasy football owner dreams of and arthur smith and they just wasted him away like they do Kyle Pitts, like they have Drake London. I mean, obviously Desmond Ritter deserves some blame, but not enough so that he's this bad. Yeah, and you mentioned how every fantasy owner dreams of it. And it's funny how when pressed on why they're not using the kid they spent, if I remember, the seventh overall pick on, seventh or eighth, I remember Arthur Smith said, I don't care about your fantasy team. I care about winning.

Well, with that record, you clearly don't, Arthur. And now, for those of you who don't know, he's now the offensive coordinator up in Pittsburgh. Wow. Pittsburgh is just allergic to offense. I mean, wow. Yeah. He's now the offensive coordinator up in Pittsburgh. Wow. Pittsburgh is just allergic to offense. I mean, wow. Yeah. I'll say it's very difficult for a rookie of the year to be a quarterback.

You don't see it that often. I mean, it happened with Justin Herbert, I believe. Herbert got it, yeah. It was Herbert over Justin Jefferson, which was a big thing. And then I know Prescott got it a couple – way back too. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, though, if you have a quarterback that performs even decently, he's almost a shoo-in to get it. Unless the person who beats him out,

being a skill position on offense, is breaking records. That's the only trump card. You have to break a record. It doesn't matter if you're statistically better or not. Yeah, I agree. Because an average quarterback will win it every time. Sure, yeah.

Because it's hard to be that good as a quarterback that early in your career. Whereas if you're an elite wide receiver, it's not that rare to see that from a wide receiver. For them who are that good that when you're that good as a rookie, it's not as impressive. It's impressive, but the quarterback, it's so much harder to be that good that early in your career. All right, so we're going to move on, and we're going to get to defensive and offensive players of the year. So we're comparing, as we did the rookies, our preseason picks.

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Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros on to the offensive and defensive players of the year. We're going to lead off with defensive player of the year. The official pick, the official nomination was Miles Garrett. He won it over Micah Parsons, I believe was the closest. No, Micah Parsons was also a nominee, but it was also, it was TJ Watt who was the runner up, but Miles Garrett brings home the award. It was his first one. This is one that I got right. I picked Miles Garrett during the preseason. I figured he's had that caliber of season season but he is due for one where he just gets to that level and he gets he finally gets his flowers turned out to be right so this actually was the only one i got right um but this is it just goes to show how how none of us own a crystal ball and things that you believe could go one way in the

preseason end up being a completely different direction in the regular season but cj what was your pick again i picked micah parsons and i was torn between him and miles garrett but as adam just mentioned i do not in fact have a crystal ball now michael parsons had a good season i think he was like third place but third place doesn't exactly make me right now does it and when i look at parsons season you know the cowboys defense as a whole was next level but be fair, he did have 64 tackles and 14 sacks, but just not really quite the numbers what Garrett was putting up. And I am happy for Myles Garrett, though. He was going to be my second pick, and I am at least happy you got it.

But wow, Myles Garrett really did have a season. And for all the Steelers fans that say, oh my God, TJ Watt should have gotten it. It's called defensive player of the year, not sack leader. Exactly. Yeah. There's a lot more to it. And the sacks usually get there, but not all the time. And I believe this isn't the only time where TJ Watt has not been defensive player of the year because somebody else who had less sacks got him. Right? I believe Aaron Donald got it a couple years ago.

I believe so, yeah. Also, a lot of people have to consider voter fatigue, too. Right. There's that, too. People want something new. And T.J. Watt, which is more respect to T.J. Watt, by the way. If you're always a nominee and people just vote against you just because they want somebody else, that's more respect to him. I mean, do we think Miles Garrett's going to win it again?

He might. But we know T.J. Watt's going to be there next year. That's all. I knew he was due for a year, but that doesn't mean he's going to be a nominee every single year. I think TJ Watt is a lot more equipped for it, and so is Nick Bosa, but he just had his year. All right, Offensive Player of the Year. The winner of this award was rightfully so Christian McCaffrey, a guy who now offenses that center around a running back, usually not the way to go. And if you want to argue that it wasn't because they also had some, had some elite pass catchers, you can say that. But I think the best offensive player

on that team was Christian McCaffrey. And you could even make an argument he could have been league MVP if you really wanted to. This guy was good. He was awesome. And he is a big part of why the 49ers are in the Super Bowl right now. That being said, my pick was Jamar Chase. And I'm pretty sure he barely broke 1,000 yards. That being said, he barely played and still somehow made it over 1,000. Actually, no, that's Justin Jefferson. But I think Jamar Chase had over 1,000 as well.

But still, it just goes to show how hard it is to predict this award. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I, for the record, had Justin Jefferson repeating. He got hurt. And that's really what it comes down to. He missed a bulk of time. I mean, he still had 68 catches, 1,074 yards, and five touchdowns. But when you miss that much time, it's just not going to work. That's really what I think it comes down to.

Once again, another pick of ours that gets derailed by NBO. And believe me, dear viewers, you will see that very soon. And I'll say this. Jamar Chase had 1,200. Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are going to be in the running almost every year because not only are they that explosive, but they're also big parts of their offense. When Joe Burrow is looking for who's open,

he's not looking at T Higgins. He's not looking at the other guy who's Tyler Boyd, who was escaping me. They're not looking for them. They're awesome pass catchers. They're looking for Jamar Chase. And Kirk Cousins isn't looking for Jordan Addison, although he had an incredible rookie year in itself. Oh, he did, yes. He's looking for Justin Jefferson. So those two kids, it just goes to show how great of a school LSU is with developing wide receivers.

And to think they were on the same team with Joe Burrow in 2019, that's just awesome. No wonder they won the national championship and uh for those of you who don't know they have two pretty darn good receivers coming up in this draft to malik neighbors and bryce brian thomas jr is lsu the new wide receiver you if the patriots don't get marvin harrison jr and take malik neighbors i wouldn't be too upset about that either. Although he's supposed to go a lot lower than where he is.

So I would prefer they trade back if they do that. Although most Patriots fans are going to be foaming at the mouth if they do that. Just because they're so fatigued from the Patriots trading back in recent years. You know I am, but it would be more equivalent to last year where the Patriots traded back. They got Christian Gonzalez. Yes. They traded back where most Patriots fans were sneering, but they still got the player they wanted.

It'd be the same thing with Malik neighbors. You get them. Yeah. You get the player you wanted, but you probably pissed off hundreds of thousands of Patriots fans in the process. Yeah. Also, please bear in mind that we also need someone

who can throw the ball, but we'll hold off on the draft talk for after the season. Believe me, there will be draft talk. All right. for after the season oh and believe me there will be draft talk all right um so we could either jump right into the next couple picks or we could go um we're going to move on we're going to go to comeback player of the year coach of the year and mvp our final segment that's next you're welcome you're listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. No sign yet. Hamilton comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's a catch.

Oh! To Gates! Sideline! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Ruski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros as always.

And we've reached our final segment, which means we're on to comeback player of the year this is one where i had one that i was hoping would be wrong and you cj had a pretty solid pick for who you think should win it we were both wrong but the comeback player of the year, someone I don't think either of us could have predicted. It was Joe Flacco. And I think you and I can both agree he deserved this. We didn't see it coming. And I think that's something with comeback player of the year. It's just so hard to predict.

There could be some player who's on their couch to start the season. Who ends up going on a vicious run with the browns and ends up taking this team taking the team to the playoffs where they got the snot beat out of them but they got there which is incredible in itself the guy hasn't been a full-time starter since 2017 again we were both off but i ended up being the closest because DeMar Hamlin only lost by one vote. And the reason I do not believe DeMar Hamlin should have won this award, what he did was incredible to be able to come back from something that was life-threatening. That being said, it's not really a football story.

It's more of something that happened off of the, well, it happened on the field, but the recovery happened off. And to be comeback player of the year, you need to be able to make contributions on the field as well, to be able to come back and be a great starter, like, which is what he was last season when he played for the bills, stepping in for Micah Parsons. He only played a few snaps. So that being said, if you want to make an argument for him being comeback player of the year, sure. I mean, that is, that's still an incredible achievement that he was able to, um, that he was able to, to come back from something that was life-threatening. I mean,

a lot of us thought he was going to die. That being said, like I said, the recovery happened off the field. There wasn't enough on-field contributions for me to say that he should get this award. But CJ, give us a little bit about you, our preseason pick, because I liked that one. I chose Cooper Cup. bit about you our preseason pick because i liked that one i chose cooper cup and well you know you know he was her he was come back and i thought he was going to recapture the magic and to be fair to be brutally honest he did have a good season did he not however he was overshadowed by puka nakua and cup he also missed some time this season as well

only 737 yards and five touchdowns still a good season i mean it's good but not comeback player of the year good but at the end of the day who could have seen Joe Flacco coming a man that was literally on his couch and led the Browns to the playoffs because despite the fact the entire team was basically a glorified hospital wing and honestly I agree with that I was so worried that DeMar Hamlin was going to get the sympathy vote because here's the thing it's called comeback player of the year what exactly did he come back to you know there are only two things that we knew him for one he cost the bills a game i don't remember which one where he was the 12th man on the field remember that i remember it and then they did the uh that boneheaded fake punt in the playoffs which is more on coaching but still he was part of it

and and this is a regular season award don't forget yeah he literally did nothing and look i'm sure damar hamlin's a nice guy and we are beyond thrilled that he's alive but the fact that people are saying he's robbed and people are getting up in arms about this. You have to remember, you have to come back to something. I would like everybody at home who's about to bite my head off for the stat to realize one thing. He. Are we ready for this? Yes.

Played, not started, played in five games and got and here are his stats two tackles two if you are going to look me in the eye and tell me that's worthy enough you know to be the comeback player of the year you are lying through your teeth. Shame. Yeah. Yeah. And I hope he gets better. I, as, as in like his playing quality, I do hope he gets better. Um, just didn't do much and he had a better year last year before he, before this tragic thing happened to him. Like if the, if he put up those statistics that he did last year before he got, before this thing happened to him this if if he put up those statistics that he did last year before he got before this thing happened to him this year i would say sure sure those are starting level safety numbers but he didn't he hardly played this year so that's kind of that's kind of an issue for me. Alright, so. Yeah. Alright.

We're going to move on to Coach of the Year. This is one, we were both wrong, and the official, the official one was Kevin Stefanski. And rightfully so.

Because they worked through four quarterbacks and still won 11 games I I still cannot fathom that that even happened uh who was the name of the former XFL uh MVP who they had I don't even remember his name. P.J. Walker. P.J. Walker. And then DTR. Sorry about the pronunciation. Dorian Thompson Robinson, that guy? Yes, Dorian Thompson Robinson. On top of that, there was Joe Flacco, obviously. And Mr. Deshaun Watson.

Mr. $250 million for five years, all guaranteed, and other things off the field. Yeah. The fact that this team went to the playoffs and had a decent seed, all things considered,

we haven't even mentioned the fact that they lost Nick Chubb for the year, who destroyed his knee. All of these things in mind and they still won 11 games that's pretty incredible you lost to a good young stud in cj stroud but don't hang your heads on that i mean you still had a great year um Sometimes teams aren't built for the playoffs. You were able to win 11 regular season games with PJ Walker as your starting quarterback and Dorian Thompson-Robinson as another. That's pretty good.

Yeah, you can't hate it. Because I was just going to say about Stefanski is that when you look at the injuries you went through and to still even make the playoffs, that's got to be coach of the year. I don't know how many other coaches could do what he did. Yeah. That being said, my pick was Sean Payton before the season started. I thought Sean Payton would step in to a roster that was pretty respectable with this Broncos team. And I thought coaching was the biggest started. I thought Sean Payton would step in to a roster that was pretty respectable with this Broncos team. And I thought coaching was the biggest issue. I thought Sean Payton

would solve a lot of issues that existed with this Broncos team. Turns out it was wrong. They started one and five right out of the gates. They did turn it around. So he had a better year than Nathaniel Hackett did the year prior, but you can't ignore the fact that they started one in five. You can't start that slow in the NFL. It's going to come back to bite you. And I hold this standard for everyone who starts a season poorly. It was the same thing with Brian Flores.

Everyone wants to bring that up, wants to bring up how he finished seasons, Brian Flores. But no one wants to acknowledge how he started those seasons. And yes, they were very good finishes to the years. But those starts were so bad that it not only cost them, it's not like it cost them playoff seeding. They weren't like, oh, we could have won a Super Bowl. You didn't make the playoffs a single year with brian flores that's a problem same way it's a problem with the broncos here and sean payton you didn't make the playoffs you had a great you had a great finish to the year but it cost you your starting quarterback at the end of the year. And I think you have to put some blame on the head coach here.

Yeah, I think you're right. And everyone's like, oh, but look at how they finished. Well, I have news for you. How you start can often dictate how your season goes. Yeah, cool. I remember one time Brian Flores and the Dolphins in the season, what was i remember like one time brian flores and the dolphins in the season what was it like a six game win streak yeah that's cool you missed the playoffs yep it doesn't matter how you finish shouldn't win you games but as for me my prediction was

the man from detroit himself dan campbell I think he came in like third. I will. I mean, it was an amazing season. They finally won the NFC North for the first time in a long time. And they won a playoff game for the first time since like the George H.W. Bush administration. Yeah. Before.

Yeah. Yeah. And you made it to the nfc championship game and things were looking good before you choked on your own spit and let the niners back into the game but that's neither here nor there what you did was incredible and you didn't get coach of the year campbell but he he came in, I think. And we can definitely see why. Overall, I'm not mad, but like I said, what Stefanski was able to do is insane. And I don't really see any coach overcoming that. Yeah, I will say that he would have had a lot better of a shot to win this award if he didn't go for it three times for the two point conversion in that Dallas game, because they would have tied it and momentum might

be on your side. Maybe an overtime you win. That being said, CD lamb was gashing you all game, but you still, there are some times you just need to take the points, dude. Just take, just take the easy points. Take one step back before you take two steps forward. And I think at times, at times I know that that is the way Dan Campbell likes to play. He likes to be aggressive. There are times you need to restrain yourself. And I feel like he lived and died by that aggression, which is not a good mindset to have. Anything that you're living and dying by is not good. And I think the aggression got a little too much. I love the energy, but sometimes you need to show a little bit of restraint and going

for it four times. I know this is a regular season award. This was in the playoffs going for it. How many times, three, four times. And you missed on all of them where you could have gotten points that would have tied it? That's not good. And if you went for the points the first time you could have potentially gotten a field goal, you could have squashed out all of that momentum for the 49ers. Not to say they wouldn't have still won because the 49ers just caught fire, but you would have had a much better shot than what you got during that game in the conference championship. That being said, we can't blame anything because things happen in games. Poor decisions happen. Officiating happens. There's a lot of factors that play into the to the um the uh ending to how

games turn out so our last one league mvp lamar jackson took this one he is the second uh this is the second one he's won he won it back in 2019 he was one vote away from being unanimous again there was one voter who voted josh allen and was he from like buffalo or something it was a homer vote i believe it was something like that i will say josh allen had a had a case not enough to be the only one to have been the other vote you it could have been christian mccaffrey too and And if Tyreek Hill got 2,000 yards, it would have been a travesty if he didn't get it. Oh, absolutely.

But he didn't. Do you want to elaborate on your pick? Yeah, my pick. Well, should I explain the entire lore behind it or no? All right. So my pick was also Adam's pick. And we picked Joe Burrow, the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals. Now, looking at it.

This is where I walk away. Yeah. Good luck. Don't fall in. Now, the thing with Joe Burrow, it's pretty simple. Look at who he was playing with. He had a revamped O-line, a defense that was improving, a scary three-headed monster wide receiver that featured Jamar Chase,

T. Higgins, and Tyler Boyd, and a top-ten running back in Joe Mixon. And with a Steelers team that's offensively challenged, a Browns team that has Deshaun Watson, a.k.a. the $250 million ball and chain, on that horrible albatross deal. And then there's the Ravens, who were always a threat but always seemed injury prone. The stars aligned.

And then what happens? What happens, You may ask. Well, not even week one and Joe Burrow gets hurt. And here's truly what I believe happened. I could be wrong. They rushed him back onto the field in week one. He did not look the same and then just as he's starting to regain his composure i think some ligament or whatever unfortunately snaps in his thumb and he's done but when you look at the roster and you look at everything that how he plays i mean it would make sense and i think if he stayed healthy and he probably gets it but then again hats off to lamar for recapturing some of that magic that happened in 2019 but joe burrow i mean once again if we could predict injuries then why would we

even do this at all right and another part is that um just the fact that he kind of eased his way back into the mvp conversation during that spin where he was starting to get healthy. It just shows how incredible of a player Joe Burrow is that he was, you know, he had a tough start to the year, but he started to figure it out. But then that wrist injury happened. And that's something that you really can't ignore by the way. And you know, I'm going to hold, I'm going to joe burrow to the same standard that we hold lamar jackson who always gets hurt right because joe burrow has been getting hurt too this is his third injury he tore his acl back in during his rookie year in 2020

in 2020 uh this year he had two injuries there was his, which started to get better until he had the wrist injury. So we kind of can't ignore that now. Now Joe Burrow is also injury prone. And also this goes back to one of my points from a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about Patrick Mahomes' competition. Joe Burrow is the closest guy who's been able to compete with Patrick Mahomes, not only during the regular season, but during the postseason. He's the only guy who's been able to compete with Patrick Mahomes, not only during the regular season, but during the post season, he's the only one who's been able to beat him. At least the only one left in the league. I was going to say,

yeah. Um, the fact that he keeps getting hurt, I'm kind of worried about us having another Andrew Luck Colts situation where they, where they're not able to surround him with enough protection on that offensive line and his injury is depleted by injuries. I mean, this is an incredible quarterback, just like Andrew Luck was. He showed a lot of promise, won some good postseason games,

but then eventually had to cede his career to injuries. He didn't want to end. He didn't want his career to end up, you know, being a cripple once he was retired. And that's, that sucks. Especially since this guy may be the only one who can compete with Patrick Mahomes and win at least the only one. That's a little, That's a little frightening. Because this should be a down year for the Chiefs,

but all of the elite quarterbacks in this league, every single one of them, they are so good during the regular season. Why are they a shell of themselves during the postseason? I don't want to hear all this, well, that's because Patrick Mahomes is that much better. Josh Allen and Joe Burrow are good enough so that they can at least hold their own.

They've shown that during the postseason. They have several wins against them during the regular season. The postseason, it's nothing. There's nothing. So that's a bit of a problem. And I think the issue is narratives. I don't think narratives are forming. I think narratives have been confirmed.

Lamar Jackson doesn't seem like a guy who can get it done in the postseason. And that actually infuriates me because I was rooting for him. I want him to break that narrative. But that was just heartbreaking watching that game. And then there's Josh Allen who as I mean look it's no secret that I greatly prefer Lamar Jackson to Josh Allen but I mean for all the crap Lamar gets once the postseason rolls around Josh Allen becomes an unserious quarterback I mean ever since 13 seconds happened it's just never been the same

but bill's fans will thump their chest drink their alcohol jump through a table and say but but we beat him in the regular season yeah that's nice let me know how many super bowls that gets you yeah and the close postseason games don't forget that two of the three post two of the three postseason games were close so therefore that. Two of the three postseason games were close. So therefore that means you deserve some sort of consolation trophy or something. Yeah, it's true. You know, we all know the four ways an NFL game can end, win, loss, tie, but really, really close. Good job, Buffalo. Really close. So therefore you should have won for some reason um i will say the only reason i

prefer josh allen over lamar jackson is just simply on play style lamar jet lamar kind of plays in a run first style where his best it's still kind of it his best attribute to his game is his running his rushing ability which is unbelievable. His passing ability is really good, but not good enough so that if a team forces you to throw, that you can do it. I mean, this is what happened during the postseason in the AFC Championship. The Chiefs played a pretty good run defense. On top of that, they the the ravens playing from behind and once lamar had to throw and try to throw it more we were all yelling at the tv for to have

him run it which is besides the point the fact that he was trying to throw it at all and couldn't do it enough, that is a red flag. Everyone is saying this guy could be like Russell Wilson. He morphs into a pocket passer. Not if you can't do it. So that's a bit of an issue there. But we are kind of getting off topic. That is the last of our scheduled content. You have anything else?

No, nothing really. We just hope for a good super bowl no matter what absolutely i'm just rooting for it to be a good game and the chiefs to lose i just hope both sides have fun maybe the real super bowl was the friends we made along the way you don't need to say that you don't need to say that let's all right guys make sure you tune into our Super Bowl special. It'll be coming out at 8.30 p.m. Eastern time tomorrow. And this will be lots of prop bets, some game foods, some favorite Super Bowl memories, all of that kind of stuff. This is going to be a fun episode for you guys.

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