The Fumblerooski Podcast - Tag you're it-Ep 12 the Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: February 24, 2021

The Indianapolis Colts have traded for Carson Wentz and are looking to contend in the AFC. Teams can now place franchise tags on players starting Tuesday, Feb. 23rd up until March 7th. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are looking to defend their title as Super Bowl champions but face some obstacles with many of their players becoming free agents. The Philadelphia Eagles have released two key receivers on their team and might be looking to the draft to replace them. We discuss all of these topics in Episode 12 of The Fumblerooski Podcast.Follow our Instagram @Fumblerooski_podcast

Good evening, it is time for the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power88, Dean Radio. So buckle up, we are in for a wild ride. I am Adam Wright, along with Justin Tucker and Brian Mucker. So to start off, we have a big announcement guys. We are now on Spotify and Google Play. Woo! Our goal has always been to expand and become much larger as a podcast.

And by adding these two new platforms, this is a big step towards accomplishing our goal. Guys, what do you have to say about us being on Spotify? Got anything to say to Spotify? Thank you for letting us on. We're getting one step closer to our main objective. How are you guys doing, Spotify? All right, Brian.

I said I loved it. I love how we're on Spotify, even though I don't have the app. Brian loves it. Did you hear that? Brian loves it. He loves it. He approves. All right.

Yeah, so make sure you guys check us out on those formats. This is going to be big. We are going to expand, and it's going to be awesome. All right, so getting into all the biggest news we're going to get into the breaking news since our last episode this was actually just a day after we last recorded me and Justin and I'm going to talk about a certain prediction that went that was right so carson wentz turns out when you say that he goes to the colts when somebody says on this show that he's going to

go to the colts turns out he's always right all right and last name so carson wentz has been traded to the colts for a 2021 third round pick and a 2022 conditional second round pick that could turn into a first round pick all right so guys i think the biggest um i think the biggest question we could ask here is does this move put the colts in in contention uh to represent in the afc yeah it does. It puts them in a better spot than they were last year because they don't have an aging quarterback in Phillip Rivers who can't really throw the deep ball like he should.

But, yeah, if everything turns out the way it's supposed to and Carson Wentz can return to form instead of what he was last year, which is subpar at best, then, yeah, they are a Super Bowl contender. They have the weapons around them. They have the offensive line around them. And they have a solid defense behind them. So, all in all, they're quite a fearsome threat to the AFC. And they've gotten better over this offseason,

regardless of what they had to give up, which was a little bit, a second, a conditional second and a third, I believe, just to get him. And now that he's on the scene, I think Scott, things are pretty optimistic in Indianapolis right now. I agree. Brian? So I like this trade for both teams.

I think this gives the Colts more of a playoff push and where they go. I think they could go farther than last year. For the Eagles side, I like how they did it because this gives them the draft picks that they need in the draft to rebuild some of their defense that they have missing. Because as you know, the Eagles defense was atrocious last year. I think Wentz, being with the Colts, I really like how he's like that. I think he'll be doing great in Indianapolis,

especially with the young talent that Indianapolis has in that offense, like Naheem Hines and Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. You've got very young, talented wide receivers in Zach Paschal, Paris Campbell, and Michael Pittman Jr. I would like to see T.Y. Hilton back in a Colts uniform, but we don't know that yet because he's a free agent this year. But overall, I like the trade, and I think Wentz can go farther with the Colts than Rivers did last year.

I agree with both of you, actually, for once. Shocker. Oh, so, guys, this is a team that with Phillip Rivers at quarterback. Now, this isn't a knock on Phillip Rivers. This is more to say he's old. With Phillip Rivers at quarterback, they went, what was it, 10-6, 11-5? 11-5. 11-5.

And they were in contention for the division. They went 11-5, and they nearly won a playoff game. Okay? So this is a team that had a really competent defense, very good defense, top five caliber around that area. They had Michael Pittman. They have Paris Campbell. They can possibly have T.Y. Hilton at wide receiver.

We'll see what happens in free agency. They have a great running game with Jonathan Taylor and Naheem Hines. This is a team, and they have one of the best offensive lines. So all of these things in our last show I mentioned when I correctly predicted that Carson Wentz was going to be a Colt. However, what I forgot to mention, what I actually never – I failed to mention, but I should have mentioned, and it's actually a much bigger factor than we all might think, is that his old quarterback coach from the Eagles from that season

where he nearly won MVP, he is back as the head coach. Yes, sir. So you put all of these, you know, you actually look at this Colts team and you look at that Eagles team and they have a lot of similarities. Good young team, great defense, good running game. They have one of the best offensive lines in the league, just like that Eagles team. And you put Carson Wentz and the guy who coached you back in that season, and all of a sudden you have a contending team.

They could easily turn out to be exactly like what that team was. I think the only thing that's standing in Carson Wentz's way is the mental factor. It's a matter of, has he been mentally deteriorated over the years from years with the Eagles? But if he's able to overcome that, look out for the Indianapolis Colts to contend in the AFC with the Kansas City Chiefs and, say, the Buffalo Bills, they could easily beat either of those teams, and they should absolutely be in the mix to contend in the AFC. Yeah.

Definitely a top-seven team in the AFC. I think they're now better than the Titans, so I think 17 in the AFC. I think they're now better than the Titans, so I think they'll take the South. So that means they'll definitely be a top 14, which means they'll have a home playoff game. But it's going to be a tough battle in the AFC, but I think with the weapons they have and the pieces surrounding Carson Wentz, I think they can make the AFC championship game and possibly the Super Bowl if everything goes right. But if everything goes wrong, which could happen, oh boy. Yeah, there's a bit of a question mark here with this whole thing, but I mean, best case

scenario, I think we're looking at the best case scenario when we're talking about when we're being optimistic about this is that this could be this could really work out well for them but at the same time it also he could be that kid he could be just not right anymore but at the same time if this does work out who's better than them besides kansas city which is a given i mean you, you already know who I'm rooting for. You already know it's the Ravens for me. You think the Ravens are better? Yes.

That's not even a question to me. If it's just they are better. Justin, the two defenses are kind of like similar, so I'll give you that. Buffalo. This is what I don't agree. The wide receivers. You guys need wide receivers. I think they did some last year.

So you have them top four? Yeah, they're a top four team. Top receivers. So you have them top four. Yeah, they're a top four team. Top four team. I have them top three. I have them top four. They're just, it's a mixture. And here's the thing with. Hold on, what are you talking about?

Who's the fourth? Who's the fourth? We have Kansas City. We have the Bills. Yeah. We have your Ravens, you say. Yeah. You say. What? Allegedly the Ravens. We have your Ravens, you say. You say what? Allegedly, the Ravens.

We have the Ravens and the Colts. Those are your top four in the AFC right now. That's your power rankings right now. Okay, so the Ravens are third and the Colts are... We're settled on that. We're fine with that. Here's my thing about KC and why I think this AFC is going to be wide open.

Kansas City just lost to the Super Bowl. Yeah. And teams that typically – teams who lose the Super Bowl aren't the same year after. Mm-hmm. It could be. Now, they can still make the AFC Championship, but the fact of the matter is

the teams that lose the Super Bowl, they've only made the Super Bowl eight times. And only three have gone back to win again. One of them is the Patriots. One of them is my New England Patriots.

The other two were in the 70s. There was the Dolphins, and I believe it was the Cowboys as well. So both of them happened in the 70s. The other one was the Patriots. It's obviously, this is unheard of. So Kansas City, we could almost take them out of the conversation. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Almost.

We could say that it's going to be unlikely for them. That's reckless. That is completely reckless. You just – It could come down to Bills or Colts. Try to get on him because I think he's being completely reckless. No, I think he's right here because if you look at the 49ers from this year, they got slammed with injuries. And who knows if that's going to happen with the – they got – yeah, injuries.

You don't think that can happen with the freaking Chiefs? If you're telling me it's because of the injuries, that's one thing. If you're just going to tell me they're going to fall off, no. They're going to be right up there. They're going to fall off, and I agree. I think they'll make the playoffs, but they won't go as far as they did this year. It's a possibility. You're not making it seem like it's a possibility.

To me, it's like a 50-50 right now. They're going to lose the Rams regardless, but still. I think it's improbable. Just look at all the past. There's been 55 Super Bowls. Only eight teams have gone on to make the Super Bowl again after losing it. It's most likely. It's not improbable.

I think it's improbable. Justin. All right, that's your thing. The polls are a factor in that. The bills are a factor. The races are a factor. Statistics, the data from the past few years backs it up. Yeah.

Now, I'm not trying to say they're not going to be good. It's not going to be the 49ers last year or any other team that loses and is never the same again. But they could make the AFC Championship. I just think there's something that's going to go wrong. There's a mental factor that plays into losing the Super Bowl. And there's a narrative that goes along that lingers with the team after they lose the Super Bowl, and they're not the same for a little while.

I kind of disagree. One of the only teams that was able to do that was the Patriots. That's a team where you had two leaders in Tom Brady and Bill Belichick who were able to bring them back. That's rare air. And before that, it was two teams in the 70s about almost 50 years ago. All right. So this is – I do say it's an improbability. Okay.

All right. So Colts, it's wide open for you. Just make sure this kid is right, and you guys are going to go to the Super Bowl. There's a strong possibility. Over the Ravens' dead body. Over the Ravens' dead body. But AFC Championship game. I see that.

If anything, it's over the Bills' dead body. All rightFC championship game. I see that. If anything, it's over the Bills dead body. Alright. Alright. Yeah. No. How many points did they score against the Bills? How many points? We only scored three. They only scored ten. That's correct. They only scored ten. It was enough. Actually, 17.

No. The pick six. That doesn't count. Their offense. Their offense did nothing. Defensive points count. Okay. If Lamar doesn't throw The pick six. That doesn't count. Their offense. Their offense did nothing. Defensive point scout. Okay. If Lamar doesn't throw that pick six instead of a touchdown, we're not having this argument. We can't play this if and when. Yeah, we're not going to.

We should have won a game. We're not going to. Because it happened. He did. We're not going to. Hats off to the Bills, but no. Well, he can't take any poop breaks anymore. None of those bean burritos to take a quick poop break, come back, win the game for him.

He did not pull apart Paul Pierce. He did not pull apart Paul Pierce. I think he took a dump. Absolutely not. He definitely did. Lamar, I'm with you. You did not take a number two. I mean, that's almost a compliment towards him. He left the game in the fourth quarter to take a dump.

He came back and won them the game. Against Cleveland. Still don't believe it. Don't let the haters say otherwise, Lamar. You had cramps. That's not even hating. I think that's a good thing. He went to take a dump? That's better than cramps.

And he happened to tap out with cramps? He didn't tap out. He came back. It's like LeBron leaving games with his little leg cramps. All right. I mean, it was great. His whole lore. We're not talking basketball. Let's continue.

All right. All right. Yep. We can't agree on basketball. You guys can tell. Justin and I disagree on a lot of things. But on basketball, you think football is bad? Basketball is ridiculous ridiculous this kid is just

too delusional to know that lebron is not the goat and for some reason this guy over here thinks mj is the goat it's it's obvious it's not obvious six is greater than four and eleven is greater than six we don't base everything on rings well he, he also did all of it with one team. He moved over to – we're going to – all right. This is a football podcast. Yes, that's what I'm telling you. All right. Now, moving on.

Today, so this episode is being recorded on Tuesday, February 23rd. And that happened – today happens to be the first day where players can be franchised now there's a there's several rumored players who can be franchised and i have a list of some players there's alan robinson by the bears there is kenny galladay by the by the lions there is chris godwin by the buccaneers, and there's Dak Prescott by the Cowboys. All right, so guys, which of these players is more crucial by the team to be franchised? Again, I believe personally it's Dak Prescott because they need a quarterback. Now granted, they could still choose one in the first round, but I'd rather have the surefire thing instead of a guess at

quarterback dac prescott has been a pro bowl has won a playoff game for the cowboys can has shown you in the clutch he can deliver at times it's just the team around them's eight and eight perpetually it is what it is but i believe he is deserving of the contract and i believe they will get a contract done with that said without that Prescott what else they got I mean the wide receiver wide receiver trio is obviously good with CD Michael Gallup and Omari but their defense don't even get me started on that defense oh my god that running defense was atrocious they need need to rebuild that defense. Yeah. Big time. Big time.

But first things first, sure. You're sure of your franchise quarterback, given that four year or five year deal that he wants and then move on. I don't think anybody else comes close as far as Dak Prescott does. All right, Ryan. So I have cases for all of these players. Dak Prescott,

I think he's going to test the market before he comes making a decision with the Cowboys either to stay or leave the Cowboys. I'm going to pull this and say no that he's not going to return. If Dak gets a tag,

he doesn't really have a choice. He can just sit out and wait for a trade. Yeah, there's that. I don't think you can let go of things like that. Kenny Galladay, I know, got offered a four-year deal by Detroit. $60 million, he'll get $60 million per season. Declined it right away. He's going to a new team.

There's no way he's going back to Detroit. Allen Robinson, I know he had complaints about not getting the ball enough, so I don't really see him ending up in Chicago again. So, basically, Chris Godwin, I'm going to say that he's not going to get franchise tags, and the Bucs will re-sign him.

So, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say that Shaq Barrett gets the franchise tag for the Bucs. Sha gets the franchise tag for the Bucs. Shaquille Barrett for the Bucs. Yeah. So you don't think it's going to be Chris Godwin? No. I think he said he's going to test. I saw on a social media post that I think he's going to test the market a little bit. But if things don't really work out, he could sign a short-term deal with the Bucks.

What was the source? It was some sort of like a… Beam page? ESPN thing. I don't know. It was something he said to a reporter. I don't remember what the source was, but that's what I saw. Well, be careful with some of these sources.

They put out a lot of stuff. But, all right, so I'm going to go in a different direction from both of you guys. Oh, let's hear it. All right. So, Allen Robinson, he must remain a bear in order for this team to have any chance at winning a Super Bowl in the next couple of years. Now, the reason for this, their defense is still one of the best. They have, led by Khalil Mack, the likes of Kyle Fuller and Akeem Hicks. They got that new kid, what's his name, Jalen Johnson?

Yeah. Jalen Johnson playing corner. They have Eddie Jackson, correct? Yes. So this is a star-studded defense. They have a very good running game with-board corpse of wide receivers and pass catchers behind Allen Robinson. They have a Darnell Mooney. They have a Jimmy Graham.

But they need that number one receiver. They need to retain him. This team, they're just a quarterback away from contention. Their offensive line could use a little bit of work, but they're only a quarterback away from Super Bowl contention. But if Robinson goes, it all falls apart because then you're adding another need to the list, and you need that number one receiver in order to stay on that elite status to keep that offense going. So the bottom line is the Bears need Robinson back. And you mentioned Dak Prescott.

I agree the quarterback is the most important part of the field. But the issue is they're already confident they're going to re-sign him without the franchise tag. The question is, which is the most crucial to get the tag on? They might not even need the franchise tag on Dak Prescott. The thing with Shaquille Barrett, they might be able to sign him as well. And I think it's a question on whether or not they can franchise either Chris Godwin or Shaquille Barrett.

If they can get either of those guys and probably try to sign the other, then they're all set. Galladay, we'll see what happens. They're probably going to get him. They're going into rebuild mode anyways. But Allen Robinson by the Bears, this is a team that's knocking on the door of Super Bowl contention, and if they can't do it, if they can't get him back,

then it sets them back all the way. Bottom line, Bears need Robinson back. So, Adam, this is my theory for the Bears. I know there's been a lot of rumors with Sam Donald being moved. Would you like to see him in a Bears uniform? Do you think he can do well and you think they'll catch Allen Robinson's eyes saying, oh, I want to rejoin the Bears?

I think whether it's Mac Jones or Sam Darnold, whether it's Deshaun Jackson, sorry, Deshaun Watson, if they get somebody who can do it, then that team elevates up to Super Bowl contingent.

Just look everywhere on that Bears team. They just need a quarterback. If it's Deshaun Watson going to the Bears, absolutely. If they can't get Robinson back, then they need more. And I agree. And I think Deshaun Watson even ends up with the Bears. He's absolutely going back. Robinson's absolutely going back to the Bears, 100%.

He wants to win, and he wants to win a ring. And if they get a quarterback, they very well could. They would – I mean, at that point, you'd have to worry about the other teams in the NFC. But at least you want to get into contention. You want to take it one step at a time. Worry about all those teams once you get your own stuff figured out. But I think the Bears need Robinson badly. More importantly than the Cowboys need Dak?

Well, they need him, but they're already going to get a deal done. You're hopefully hoping they get a deal done. I don't think nothing's set in stone until the deal gets done. It's not set in stone, but it's pretty likely. Back in 2019, Jerry Jones admitted that a deal is imminent, and we're still waiting on that deal. They've been trying to make this deal happen since 2019. But that hasn't happened since then. It's like, come on now.

It's now or never now. This is going to be their lucky offseason. Lucky offseason. They're going to do it. You think they're going to do it. You're hoping it will happen. What else is going to happen? I just don't.

He leaves and tests the free agent market and won't come back to Dallas. And they'll be stuck. And now they're going to have to hope that a quarterback edge, that a quarterback is good enough to help them out. Look, both sides want to reach a deal. He's still in his recovery process, which gives Dallas a little bit of an edge, and they're going to be kind to him and give him a solid offer, and they're going to be like, okay, thank you.

You've been supportive to me, and they're going to get the deal done. That's my prediction. I think he's going to be like, okay, thank you. You've been supportive to me. And they're going to get the deal done. That's my prediction. I think he's going to remain a Dallas Cowboy. But as for Allen Robinson, if they don't franchise him, he's gone. Yeah. He's gone. He has no patience left with this organization. This is an organization that's this close, a quarterback away.

I know that's easier said than done, but with the quarterbacks that are on this market, if you take Sam Darnold, if you take Sam Darnold, Deshaun Watson, any of those caliber of quarterbacks and put them on the Bears, you are assuming that they're going to be a Super Bowl contender, correct? Yes. I think if you get a competent quarterback, then everything comes together, I think. Yeah, I agree.

My problem is I'd rather lose Allen Robinson and rely on the running game with David Montgomery because David Montgomery has shown me he can work with that, do more with the workload, than get rid of Dak Prescott and rely on Zeke, who has underperformed this season and is playing like a scrub. Tony Pollard outplayed this man this season. I'll say it again, Zeke. Tony Pollard outplayed you this year.

You did not deserve to be the running back number one this year. Say it a little louder for the people in the back. Just making sure. Tony Pollard was a better running back than you were this year, Z. Get it together. You're the $90 million man. $50 million guaranteed. Get it together. That's why you don't

invest in running backs because that's just what happens. You could get lucky at running back and had Frank Gore, to be fair. Yeah, but how many championships did teams win with Frank Gore? He got close. It just so happened he ran up against my Ravens and Giants. Oh, well.

He won it against two Super Bowl well. That had more to do with the defense. A promising quarterback who couldn't keep his crap together. Yeah. But you get the point. Bears,

bring Allen Robinson back. Don't listen to him. Dak. Dak's coming back. He's Robinson back. Don't listen to him. Dak. Dak. Dak's coming back. You hope. He's coming back. You hope. He hasn't shown it yet.

He's coming back. Sign on the dotted line. Moving on. Buccaneers are looking to defend their Super Bowl title and repeat as Super Bowl champions for the first time since the 2003-04 Patriots. That'd be really fitting for Brady to do it again. God, he says that.

I kid, I kid, I kid. However, they have a lot of players on their current roster who are hitting free agency. Here's just a short list of some of their key players. There is Shaquille Barrett, Levante David, Chris Godwin, Leonard Fournette, Antonio Brown, Rob Gronkowski, and Ndamukong Su. Which of these players, guys, do they really need to re-sign? Do they have to re-sign in order to remain in Super Bowl contention? Which one? Which of them? Which of these players do they need?

If it's up to me, I'd make a bid on Levante David and I'd make a bid on Shaquille Barrett. I think that defense needs those two pieces to survive based upon their concepts and what they do well on defense. They need both of those players to stay. Because Levante David is a very fast linebacker who doesn't miss tackles and is sideline to sideline. I think keeping him is more like a necessity for that defense. And then there's Shaquille Barrett, who applies the pressure off the edge.

So if you continue to keep those two, I think you'll be in position to win championships. If you can't keep them, oh, dear Lord. All right. Brian? So this is what I say. I say – so I already said to you guys that Shaq Barrett will get franchise tagged. So I think he's remaining with the Bucs.

Now, I say two players will be returning, and I'm going to go with, yes, levante david great linebacker he had he was had a great season and i think if you keep that middle linebacker up he could easily stop the run right there and he could obviously go sideline to sideline making tackles up and right um another player that they should be signed to long term maybe like to four or five years chris godwin if he depending if whoever gets the franchise back between those two Chris got one should be signed. She should be resigned by the Bucs. I Don't see I would like to see the Dominica sue, but I don't think that's gonna happen So anything maybe like a one deal if anything but I'm time we don't know we also use the draft of Jeff's Run couch. Yeah, he's gonna I think he's going to be gone.

He's going to be gone. They have Cameron Brait. They have O.J. Howard. I don't think they need to invest in tight ends. Leonard Fournette, nope. I don't think he's coming back. Not Leo Lane? Nope.

We've got Ronald Jones. Ronald Jones, yes, he was hurt, and that's why he didn't really play a lot. But I think Ronald Jones, I think, should have that number one position. Maybe sign a guy like Marlon Mack to maybe back him up. That's why he didn't really play a lot. But I think Ronald Jones, I think, should have that number one position. Maybe sign a guy like Marlon Mack to maybe, like, back him up. That's a sign. And the other player. I mean, a guy that you guys kind of forgot who filled in for Vita Vea when he was injured was, I think his name was Rakeem Nunez Roaches. I liked him a lot on the defense.

I think he applied a lot of pressure on the quarterback. And I thought he was a good filling when Bay was absent. So I think he can maybe resign over a one-year deal. But other than that, I think those two players, Godwin and David, are definite. So who do they need to re-sign? They need to re-sign Godwin to keep that offense intact, and they need to keep Levante and David to keep that defense intact.

You obviously don't need Antonio Brown. To me, he's like a cancer on that offense. Apparently not. He can't keep his mouth offense. Apparently nothing's pretty. He can't keep his mouth shut. He's accused of something. I think Chris Godwin and Mike Evans and Scotty Miller is a great offensive core. And, yes, Adam, I put a lot of emphasis on Scotty Miller. God, I hate that guy.

You love him. You love him. I loved him for about one week when I was about to start him on fantasy football. He got one catch for nine yards. I was pissed. Who won that? Who won? We're not going to talk about that.

I think both of you guys have decent points. Subpar. Solid. But I think what you fail to realize is quarterbacks in new systems are better in year two. All right? Now, the Buccaneers, back this past year, they needed their defense to perform well because their offense was not quite as efficient as it could have been. But I believe in year two, if they keep Chris Godwin, and I don't think they need Antonio Brown. I think their offense runs better without him. They'll probably want Rob Gronkowski.

He's a given to stay. He came out of retirement. For Brady. For Brady. But year two, this offense is going to run better, and they'll be less dependent on the defense, meaning it won't be quite as crucial to keep a Levante David. As much as it'd be nice to keep him,

he's obviously one of their best defensive players. But at the same time, I think the one part of that defense they really need to keep intact is that pass rush meaning shaquille barrett is a must keep on that on that defense in order to stay to stay productive that's how they won a lot of games was getting to the quarterback and being able to keep their quarterback on their feet as I preached all season long. All right. So they should be able to re-sign Sue and Gronkowski if they really want to. They probably will. I think they don't need Brown or Fournette. I think the offense runs plenty smooth without them.

But, however, Chris Godwin is a must. Shaq Barrett is a must. Levante David, if they can get him back, that's great. But the fact of the matter is this guy has made it known he wants to be paid. And I just think when you have Devin White already, he's not a must-have. What they really need is they need to keep Godwin, and they need to keep Barrett. If they can retain those two players,

then their offense will run perfectly well. Their defense won't be quite as great, but their offense will make up for it because it's going to be better in year two because the offense, teams and new quarterbacks and new systems always play better in year two. And I believe Tom Brady is going to have a better offensive year. And Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Scotty Miller, even those players are going to be benefactors of that. And I think they're going to be less reliant on that defense. That defense takes a step back, but the offense takes a step forward, and they'll remain in Super Bowl contention.

So bottom line is, Godwin and Barrett are must-keeps. But if you think the offense is going to take a step forward now that Brady has another year under his belt, why do I need to keep Chris Godwin? I think Brady has done more with less, apparently, to you, so I don't understand why I need to keep Chris Godwin around. If he's going to cost a lot, I can get a lot more. I can get more

with Antonio Brown than Chris Godwin, and he'll be cheaper. So that's the thing. I just think the offense doesn't run as smooth with Brown over Godwin. That, I don't know. I really don't

know. I think they can run plenty fine just as long as Brown knows his role. Mike Evans is the true number one. You're the number two. Stay in that position. If you don't, Scottie will take your spot. Scottie, boy.

But anyway, I think that defense needs to stay in tow as much as possible. It's either you're going to have Levante David or you're going to have Shaquille Barrett. I don't think Shaquille Barrett wants to keep on dealing with this franchise tag, so I think it's either one or the other. So I think if I had to choose between the two, I'd rather have Shaquille Barrett than Levante David because I value pass rushers more. But if I can, I'll try

to keep both. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I would love for Levante David to be back on that roster. And I think if they were able to retain them, then they'd finish a lot better than if they didn't have Levante and David.

The thing is, I just don't think they'll need him. I think that offense is going to be better. And so to your point where I said, where I preached that Tom Brady does more with less, I actually happen to believe that more for earlier on in his career. I think Tom Brady's gotten to an age where he just can't do that anymore, and he needs a little bit around him. And you see that a lot with a lot of quarterbacks when they get older. Brett Favre had better rosters when he was older.

Peyton Manning, I think that Vikings team was pretty good. It's still debatable if you look at the offenses he's had for Brett Favre. It's debatable, but he had great rosters when he was. Payne Manning, that roster was not good offensively. Offensively? Eric Decker? Yes, 2015. I'm talking about the year they actually won the Super Bowl, not the year they made it and got obliterated.

Emmanuel Sanders and Demarius Thomas aren't good? They're fine. But what happened in that Super Bowl? It wasn't an offensive flagship performance. It was the running game and the defense. That's the only thing you can tell me about this. Peyton Manning fell off the cliff. Okay.

He fell off Max Kellerman's cliff. Okay. What does that have to do? That's fine. It wasn't the same. That had nothing to do with the surrounding talent's fine. It wasn't the same. That had nothing to do with the surrounding talent. He wasn't the same. That kind of

attached to my point. Players when they get older, they're going to need some help around them. When Peyton was younger, he had Wayne Harrison, Edron James, Joseph Adai. No, I can't.

Dallas Clark. You're really going to compare any of those Indianapolis teams to the 2013 Broncos, right? Yes. Pound for pound that rock? Stop. Stop. He threw for 55 touchdown passes, Justin. That's nice.

That's very nice. It was very nice. You're telling me Demarius Thomas is better than Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison. Or you're telling me Emmanuel Sanders is better than any of those two. I think as a collective unit, their team's bad offense was better. You need to stop. You really need to stop. Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Wes Welker, Julius Thomas,

NoSean Moreno, Peyton Manning, Joseph Adai, Dallas Clark, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison. What? What? It's close enough. Stokely in the slot. Oh, no, Austin Colley in the slot. Could we?

Come on, Austin. Stop. Austin Colley. Give me a break. Stop Come on, Austin. Stop. Austin Colley. Give me a break. Stop. You really need. You really do. Stokely.

Can we at least agree that that roster is better than the 2019 Patriots offense? Yes. Exactly. And you need more. Offensively, yes, they were far better. I'm not sure about defensively. You give that roster a younger Tom Brady? The young buck? No, he's not going to the Super Bowl and winning give that roster a younger Tom Brady. The young buck?

No, he's not going to the Super Bowl and winning with that roster. They don't win the Super Bowl, but they go to the AFC Championship, I think. They did it in 2013. Gronkowski. Gronkowski was hurt. He wasn't? All right, my bad. Edelman.

Edelman, that was his first year. That was not his first year. Yes, it was. That was the first year being like breaking out as a legitimate guy. All right. Before then, he was a punt returner. He was a utility guy with special teams. All right, he was –

All right. I understand your point, but I vehemently disagree with that point because the quarterbacks you're naming have had a lot of talent in their younger years and arguably better. But they still had great talent around them. You can argue all you want whether their talent before was better. They still had talent at the end of their careers. That's my point, is that you need talent. Quarterbacks get to an age where they might need some more talent around them in order to succeed. I think you give Peyton Manning in his prime any group of players, and he can take that team to the playoffs.

You take older Peyton Manning, and you give them any group of players, and you can take that team to the playoffs. You take older Peyton Manning and you give them any group of players, and they won't be as effective. It's the same thing with Tom Brady. They were still able to make playoffs with Tom Brady at age 42, but they still couldn't. They weren't nearly as effective as they should. Stop it. How old was Peyton Manning when you retired?

Peyton Manning? 39. He retired a champion. That's all that matters. Well. He could have played. That was it for him, but he still went out on top. Exactly. He's got talent around him to do that. He had the defense around him.

His talent around him. The offense was pretty good, except it was alright. Bing Manning just didn't have anything left. We'll argue about this all night. We're not going to come to an agreement, but it was a solid

debate. Alright, so moving on our final segment. The Eagles, a couple of days ago, they released Deshaun Jackson, and they announced they're going to be releasing Alshon Jeffrey at the start of free agency as well. So this leaves them extremely thin at wide receiver, considering their top receivers right now are undrafted Travis Fulgham

and Jalen Rager. So a key point to this is they have the number six pick in the draft. All right. So do these moves mean that they will be corresponding by taking a wide receiver with this pick, the sixth pick in the draft? I believe with these moves specifically, yes, I think they could be gearing up towards them. Is that the right move they should be making? It's questionable. I believe wide receiver is a big need, but probably not their biggest need.

I believe their O-line needs more help because Jason Peters, love him, but he's up there in age now. Time to go. Back him up. He needs to either retire or move on. I think they need left on that left side. Brandon Brooks is coming back from an injury, so he'll be a bit banged up starting the season. Lane Johnson, in and out of the lineup all year.

Need consistency out of him. So I believe they need to either draft somebody to fill in right now or draft somebody that'll fill in for next year on the whole line. Cornerbacks, I don't need to say anything else about the cornerbacks. Darius Slade did not play off to snuff this year. They need to do better. Hopefully they draft somebody in the second round to fill that spot, but I could see them trading back in the draft

and probably drafting another corner. Okay. Ryan? I'm going to take a complete X on your part. I'm going to say that this is a good move for... First off, this is a good move for the Eagles by releasing these

two washed-up, veteran, banged-up receivers that, to me, can't perform anymore. And I like how you have that you i like how they draft holcomb was a nice little addition that they got i think that they're going to be drafting either davante smith or jamar chase and for their sixth pick i don't think they're going to be trained back i don't think they're going to be trading back. I don't think they're going to do that. But I just think that they need, after those releases of the wide receivers, I think they need maybe a number one.

Because I think Rager right now is a number two, and Fulgham could probably play a slots or something. I agree with you that the O-line was banged up. They could maybe sign a couple of O-linemen that could fill in their spots. And since we're talking about the picks that they received from Indianapolis, they could use those two extra picks that they got to rebuild a little bit around that defense. And, yes, I understand that that cornerback trio was atrocious.

I think for their second round pick, they should target a quarterback. So I completely agree that they're probably going to take a wide receiver with this pick. Yeah. And you're right to your point. They do have a lot of other needs. I think the thing with that is wide receiver is arguably their biggest need here. And when you have the sixth pick and you have a chance to draft Jamar Chase or Devontae Smith if he falls that far, then you take him. Especially since he's one of your needs and possibly your biggest need. So I think this is a no-brainer. They have to take Jamar Chase or Devontae

Smith, and they need to set Hertz up for success, or else you're going to get another head case like the second coming of Carson Wentz. Not to say that he's as mentally broken down as Carson Wentz was, but you put yourself in the same position as you were before by not getting your franchise quarterback any help. I think they've already started to break him. I think they already started to break him, and I don't think we realize it because week 17, you don't just pull a guy.

You don't do that. I don't think that was more on Hurts. That's not a knock on Hurts. That was more the player. Now, whether or not you think this was okay, I think that was him just saying... I think it was him saying, the season's over, let's just rest our starters.

I don't think that was a knock on... I think the quarterback... Brian? I just still can't agree I agree with that. Brian? I just still can't agree with what you said. Why? Or in the podcast. I think those starters need to go out with a bang. I think they should have won that last game.

Okay, whether or not you think it's okay is another debate. I'm just giving you the reason why they did it. I'm not saying whether or not you want to agree with that, but I don't think that's going to play against I don't think that's going to be a knock against Jalen Hurts. I think that's more, especially since they fired Doug Peterson. He's gone.

I wonder why he got fired. Going into this next season, I don't think that's going to play a part into Hurts' head at all. It depends. It depends. It depends how he saw it, if he was upset about it. Promising young kid. It depends if he was upset about when he got pulled or not.

It didn't look like he was at the end of the game because he was shaking hands and he was upset. All right. All right. But I think since the remove of Doug Peterson, I think that he can go back to that team with a lot of confidence, new season, fresh start. And hopefully that he has a nice little talented offense that he can work with. Like I said, Rager, Fulgham, Goddard at tight ends and maybe Devante Smith or Jamar Chase.

You've still got, I like Boston Scott as a nice backup to Miles Sanders. I think that really the worries are for the Eagles is to draft a number one receiver, rebuild a little bit on that defense, use the picks that they got from Indianapolis and some of the other ones that they're given to rebuild to get that defense going, or maybe do something with that O-line. I understand that that O-line was completely banged up last year. I didn't even know who the hell started it at the time.

Well, I still think regardless, take whichever wide receiver they would allegedly be drafting on draft day. If they don't do that, then Travis Fogum and Jalen Rager and Dallas Goddard are not enough. Yes, I can agree with that. I think you're setting Hertz up for failure, and you're creating the same problem over and over again over again um the same problem that you had with Carson Wentz I agree with you my only problem is the reason I think they might go in another direction is because they chose a wide receiver last year you see them going back to back this year because Jalen Rager was a first round pick last year I think when you have Jamar Chase and when you look at the school, LSU,

and Devontae Smith too, the schools where players just come out, wide receivers just come out, they're almost sure things. And I think when you look at that, you just can't pass on talent like that. It's going to be the same. It's the same thing with the Cardinals. When they drafted Josh Rosen to start the year before, they said, okay, he didn't work, so let's draft Tyler Murray the next year. I don't think he worked.

I get it. You get the point. It's happened before. I think it's easy to look at Jalen Rager as a prospect and look at Jamar Chase as a prospect and say, well, Jamar Chase is obviously the better prospect. And so – and absolutely Devontae Smith. So that's just a talent you just can't pass on, especially when you have a competent quarterback who really – it's going to be hard to mess him up and Jalen Hurts so I think this is

going to work out I hope so I hope so for the Philly fans who are wicked when it comes to the football season when they're having a terrible season yeah it's brutal pray for Philly fans yeah that that one Super Bowl victory seems very long ago, doesn't it? And I've got to say, it's a little satisfying as a Patriots fan. After all of that rubbing in there was, Tom Brady lost to a backup quarterback. Oh, well. At least the backup quarterback could catch.

Your starter wasn't so good either. At least the backup quarterback could catch. Well, at least their starter isn't a mental case. I'm sorry. At least he didn't fumble the game away but yeah we're not gonna at least he didn't throw a pick in that game because Nick Foles did and I think everybody so they both hadn't so they both had turnovers but one was more costly than the other that'll do it thank you for listening to us. Make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel.

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