The Fumblerooski Podcast - Talking Trenches -Ep 440 the Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

On today's episode, former DPOY Stephon Gilmore announces his retirement. A look back at his career and a discussion on where we see him all-time. Hall of Fame? We are 17 days away from the NFL Draft and we preview the offensive linemen and tight ends! Chris Costich, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

On today's episode of the Fulmourski podcast, more NFL draft previews from yours truly, C.J. Medeiros. Today, it's going to be offensive linemen and tight ends. Along with that, Stefan Gilmore announces his retirement from the NFL. This is a Fulmaruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.

Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fumble Risky podcast by Power 818 Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. We got C.J. Maderos. We got myself Chris Costich. I've tucked today, unfortunately. Oh, Adam, unfortunately. We haven't seen Adam in a little bit. He's been a busy bee.

Yeah, I got to get that promotion over at the Y where he works, you know. We got to lock in. I believe him. I believe in them. And we all do. We all do. Stefan Gilmore announced to his retirement shortly after, what was it, on Friday, or shortly after we recorded on Thursday, after you guys recorded on Thursday.

Yeah. Something like that. But, yeah. Two-time All-Pro, 2019 defensive player of the year, 13 years in the league. It was about to be 35. Um, yeah. And he is mainly known for his play with Patriots, of course, as mentioned, uh, first team all pro in 2018, 2019, uh, defense player of the year in that 2019 season. Uh, first round pick out of South Carolina from the bills in 2012. And, you know, when, when Gilmore was

initially, uh, initially came to the Pats, I was like, all right, it was a good signing. Like, I, I, I didn't really think he would turn. out to be like a top five corner in the league the way that he did so immediately, which I absolutely loved. Like I fell in love with Gilmore pretty, pretty immediately. He was a dog, was a dog, is a dog. And yeah, I guess this is just me appreciating Stefan Gilmore in his time on the Patriots. And, you know, even afterwards, he was pretty solid as well.

didn't play last season, went unsigned in free agency, unfortunately, after playing the 24th season with the Vikings. He was kind of bouncing around from team to team the last, outside of last year, because obviously he didn't play for a team. But traded to the Panthers in 21, then signed with the Colts,

and then traded to the Cowboys in 23, then played for the Vikings in 24 for his last season. finished his career with 32 interceptions, 149 passes, defended, 617 tackles in 180 games where he started 173, selected to five Pro Bowls. But, yeah. Yeah, man, Prime Stefan Gilmore on the Patriots. What an absolute beast he was.

I mean, he would literally just completely erase one side of the field. You would just put belt to any receiver put against him. And I remember that New England's final Super Bowl win so far up in 2018. That run he was on in the regular season, he was kicking ass and taking names. But it was the playoffs against the Chargers, the Chiefs, and eventually the Rams, where he was just, like I said, just erasing, just locking up, however you want to put it, everyone. And who could forget that one pick in the Super Bowl,

where he's going toe to toe at Brandon Cooks, you know, balls up for grabs, and he just turns around, goes airborne for that, and just comes down with it. Essentially, it wasn't quite the game sealer, but it pretty much was. When he got that pick, you were like, all right, yeah, Rams ain't winning. Yeah. And obviously, you know, I don't care if,

technically New England was in the team he spent the most time with total. If he does end up in Canton, some people say he should. I don't know. We can debate that. But I believe he should go on the shirt for the Patriots, not the Bills. Because I think he spent one more year in Buffalo than he did in New England. But I don't like that. I don't like that fact.

It's about the shirts. You know what I mean? It's about the shirts. Yeah. With Adventiary. Get Gilmore on that Patriot shirt. if he goes to Canton because that defensive

player of the year season, 2019, that was magical. He was, I believe, in total, including Pat Sartan, one of most recently, I think there of only, he's in that really league group, I think, of like seven dbs to win it at all, because I know it's him, Sartan,

Ron Woodson, Charles Woodson, I think Mo Blunt won it, I think maybe Dion Sanders won it, and I, there's someone else. said I'm forgetting. Maybe it's like Leon Gray or something like that. I'm not certain. But I know that there's like seven of them total who won. One of them and did with absolute legend. As soon, like he was always a good corner, like high end. But when he went to New England, his game immediately went to the next level.

And yeah, as a Pat's end who has a Gilmore jersey, I'll never forget him. Yeah, ended up with 11 total interceptions with the Patriots. Only two pick sixes in his career and both of them being in that defense player of the year, a year. You know, you mentioned the Super Bowl run and whatnot. I'll go a step further, you know, that first year in 2017 when Pats were making that Super Bowl, another Super Bowl run, the year they lost the Eagles and the, He made a huge play on fourth down against the Jaguars. Bad a pass away to seal the victory.

Granted, Pat still had to get a first down afterwards. But still, like, at that point in time, biggest play at season essentially coming down to the line right there and steps up huge and makes a massive play. And then, you know, 2019. team. Defense player of the year on a, on the defense that was the top defensive unit in the NFL at that point.

The, the boogeyman was the name of that team. Yeah. They were disgusting. I remember. If only New England had wide receivers, they maybe could have won the Super Bowl that year. Oh, also injuries.

They had wide receivers. All of them just were. freaking idiot. Yeah, that's the rugged that's an insane what-if team because, you know, Josh Gordon relapsed unfortunately.

Antonio Brown decided to crash out. Muhammad Sunnu did nothing. Nikil Harry was a bust. That season still pisses me off just thinking about it. New England really just, I mean, I know it's a cop-out, but they just had, that was just bad luck. That's the only way to describe it.

It was just bad luck. They just got a really awful roll of the dice. Also, not to mention the offensive line being injured and having to rely on Marshall Newhouse to protect Tom Brady's blindside was not ideal. Yeah, and, you know, obviously still had Julian Edelman, who later gave Philip Dorset a concussion like midwet, like towards the end of the season as well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah And Antonio Brown

That wasn't like we weren't at like crash out stage Like full on crash out stage Antonio Brown just yet That was the I'm gonna beat the shit out of Waitress Antonio Brown or Not that He had like a sexual assault allegation That's what it was

Was that when he was like showing his cock in the pool? No Jesus Christ Why did you put it like that? And no That was later. I think that was when he was retired. There's just so much shit that it may as well just be gelled together. Jesus Christ, man, don't say that.

That's, ugh. Anyways, Defla and Gilmore, you know, with everything that we've talked about with Gilmore, do you see him as potentially going into the Hall of Fame? Let's start with this. I think he's borderline, honestly. I don't, I don't know. That run a new. England's.

What about a Patriots Hall of Fame? Absolutely. I can get. Patriot's Hall of Fame. I can get with that. I feel like terms of Hall of Fame, like actual Hall of Fame, I would also say borderline and probably lean, yes. Yeah, I don't know.

I see it's like a 50-50 thing. I feel like people are going to remember that run he had in New England and let him in. Yeah. Which I'm okay with so long as he goes on the shirt for New England. Because they have these shirts, you know, where they list everybody on, like, your team's Hall of Fame. Or, you know, or everybody in the Hall of Fame who was on your team. But, you know, but it's Hall of Parsad is weird. Because, you know, for example, Randy Moss obviously lists on the Viking shirt, not New England.

Obviously, that makes sense. Yeah. But no, no, no. I want Vinitieri and I want Gilmore. No. Colts and Bills. you can't have them, they're ours. Just sad.

I don't know if you ever knew this, but Pro Football Focus has like a Hall of Fame monitor for... Yeah, I know. Where's he? So to give you an idea of, for the average Hall of Fame defensive back, the Hall of Fame meter is at 97. So it's like Johnny Robertson, Brian Dawkins,

Troy Paul Mollow, Paul Krauss. Stefan Gilmore's a 64. point 53. But what is he out of all time? Because they show ranking like blank all time. Where is he? Does it show ranking all time? Yeah.

Or no, it's, uh, if you go to his pro football reference page, it'll show his score and it'll say blank all time. Interesting. It does. It's on Gilmore's page specifically. I'm on Gilmore's page right now. I guess I just don't really know where exactly to look. Jesus, tap dancing Christ.

Well, I just, I never knew that there was a rating like this, you know. Dude, I'm looking for it right now, so don't test me, buddy. All right, no, please. Like, I'd love to have an extra set of eyes on this. But while you look for it. He's 46th all time amongst all defensive backs. Okay. Hall of Fame Monitor, and it literally says 46th among DBS, which all DBS, so that's

corners and safeties. That's, yeah, it's nice. Yeah, I mean, like, he's above John Lynch, who's a Hall of Famer. He's above Eric Allen, above Ken Riley, Dick Leboe. So I guess he's like, in terms of other cornerbacks and just other guys who aren't in the Hall of Fame, he's kind of in a like a weird borderline situation like Richard Sherman isn't a Hall of Famer but he has a higher Hall of Fame meter than Stefan Gilmore Yeah

Same thing with like Earl Thomas Ty Lott he's a Hall of Famer and he's above Stefan Gilmore by like 10 points Anything uh anything else we want to touch on in regards to Stefan Gilmore? No, no, I think we got it. Cool. All right.

We're going to step aside for a little break when we come back. We'll get into a little bit of an NFL draft preview. This is the Fulburyski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.

Truly a lose-lose scenario. for both sides. Welcome to, welcome back to the Fulmore risky podcast. Let's get into our NFL draft preview. Time for the C.J. Madero show, as I like to call it. Thank you. Y'all went over quarterbacks on Thursday or Friday, a quarter on Thursday.

So today we're going to hit on offensive alignment and tight ends. draft obviously being April starting up April 23rd so that's why we're now starting up on it because there's still a lot of a lot of gap time until the draft but yeah uh where exactly do you want to start on this CJ yeah let's just start with tackles it's easiest all right tackles so just listening up the top five guys right now in terms of tackles on. I'm looking on pro football focus. I know that you have that you look at different stuff. I know exactly the site that you refer to.

I can't think of it for the life of me right now. NFL draft buzz, yeah. Thank you. But according to PFF, Francis Magua. I think it's Maui Noah. Maui Noah? That's, that's Hawaiian, all right. Spanza, Fano, Monroe, Freeling, Blake Miller, Caden Proctor.

I should probably say where they're from, right? Miami, it's Georgia, Clemson, Alabama, in that order. So I don't know if those are the five guys you want to talk about. I'll get there when I get there. All right. So listen up, kids. essentially the thing with these tackles is it's a two-horse race for the top dog between Francis Mali Noah of Miami and Spencer Fano of Utah.

They go back and forth depending, you know, what draft you're looking at. And honestly, they're very similar. I think scheme fit is going to end up dictating which one goes first. And once again, this drafts such a cluster who we even. knows anything anymore. The thing with Mawanoa is just the word that describes him is power. I once saw him referred to as, and I quote, built like a refrigerator with legs.

And yes, I would say that's accurate. He's just got violent, powerful hands. He's a sub two second 10-yard split. He's a vicious run blocker. and, you know, just, and he's got all the technique down. The only real issues with him is that the lateral quickness is in, it's okay. He's definitely more of a power guy, and there had been times when he's going against the smaller, you know, speed rushers that use technique and agility to get around blockers. Sometimes he gets caught a little flatfoot in there.

You know, but overall, the biggest thing that people have an issue with is, uh-oh, Chris, I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. Arm length. That's right, boys and girls. We're doing this again. Because while the average tackle, I think they wanted to be like 33 inches like the cutoff, he's 33 and a quarter. And it has some people actually saying that maybe he's better suited to be a guard at the NFL level. Well, he's 6-6 and 329, which I think is a little too big to be a guard, frankly.

You know, a little too tall to be a guard, you know, 6-6. I mean, maybe on the right side, but that's still a big if, you know. Overall, I think that's, I don't think that's that big of a deal. Honestly, I really don't. I like him where he is. I think he'll be a very solid tackle at the NFL level. Well, you know my opinion on these guys with short arms. It's can you get fucking knockback?

Yeah. Can you get knockback? That's all it matters. The short arm concern actually goes to Spencer Fano as well. You know that? He's another one. He's 6.6.3.11. But he has 32 and an eighth inch arms, by the way.

I'm just saying. 32 and an eighth inch arms, nine inch across hands, 80 and two-eighths inch wingspan. That has scouts terrified and it's starting to separate him and Mauanoa. I mean, Mauanoa, I mean, it was back and forth, but now, Noah is starting to creep away with that number one tackle spot, and that's mostly why. But Spano is an athletic freak. All right, don't get that twisted. He runs a 4-940. He has a 32-inch vertical and a 7.3-3 cone drill.

Had a 111-inch broad jump, another 1.7, 10-yard split, not to mention 30 reps of 225 on the bench press. The movement, the quickness, the agility, that's just what you want. He can handle pretty much everything. It's mostly, once again, just the arm length. And that's something that I'm noticing a lot of now. For some reason, college tackles have short arms these days. It was this draft and the last draft. I don't know what it is.

But hey, college ranks. You're giving NFL scouts conyptions here. Maybe you should stop. It'd be nice if you did. But a lot of people just don't like his build either. They said he is a lean bit. You know, build, I mean, you can help it, but you kind of can't. You know, if you're born in a certain shape, you kind of

They said his chest and waist are too lean. And apparently there's some technique issues with his hand placement specifically. The footwork is fine, but it's mostly the hand placement that could get him, you know, in trouble, especially with his just barely over 32-inch arms. So regardless of his tape, the guard conversation will be had. You know, you can debate that all you want, but I don't know. Much like you, Chris, I'm getting really tired of this. Yeah.

Yeah. But, like, can't, like, I think it's, like, like I said, it's pretty simple. Like, can a can a guy get knocked back? That's, that's, that's. And tuck will, tuck will say the same damn thing, too. Mm-hmm. No, great. I might be, I might just be brainwashed by my college, my, by my former college.

coach, but still. You know, you played the game. It counts. Yeah, yeah. As for the other tackles, there's, that I personally have, you know, I do my rankings and such. Mowanoa is my number one current tackle prospect with Fano is my number two. But I have Georgia's Monroe Freeling actually is my number three.

My number four is Caleb Lomo, who's also from Utah, if you can believe it. So yeah, Utah's got both their tackles going on the first round, possibly good for them. Blake Miller from Clemson's my number five. Caden Proctor from Alabama's my number six. Max I. Hennecour from, I think it's how it's pronounced, from Arizona State is number seven. So, yeah, I think this is like a pretty solid tackle class. And there's some other late round finds like Drew Shelton from Penn State, Jude Bowery from Boston College,

Fahili Fahamo from Wake Forest, Riley Malman from Wisconsin. So yeah, there's plenty of good tackle depth, I think, to be found. However, there are some, like good tackles like Caleb Tiernan from Northwestern and Max I Hennacor from Arizona State, who, to be perfectly frank, well, I think they're good. I just don't have first round grades on them. maybe not Tiernan, but I think Hyennecourt could sneak into the first round and I just, I don't think that's a great idea.

He's very raw and he's definitely a sit and develop guy, which outside of a quarterback, I think, is a stupid thing to take in the first round. So moving on to guards, this this is not

the best guard class. It's just not. Obviously, there's all I have Vega Ione, I think it's how it's pronounced, from Penn State. He's the top guard of this class. My number two is probably Jennings Dunker from Iowa. And I know Dunker's technically a tackle, but I'm not going to lie to you. This is one of those rare, and I do mean rare occasions where I look at a tackle's arms and say, buddy, you're a guard.

You know? Although Dunker, I believe, has signaled openness to move that, but yeah, I don't know. also dunker just actually like just has the build of a guard in general so you know there's that so other than you know in a i don't see any guard going in the first round i'm just i'm going to be honest here there's other ones like it's like uh dunker emmanuel preyon uh from oregon chase bassantis from texas a and m i think they're good but i think they're round two guys this is a very thin guard class Maybe, you know, I think there are some value pickups you could get in the back half of the draft who maybe they turn out, maybe they don't. Like Jalen Farber from Kentucky, I think it's Fabiachi and Waiwu from Oklahoma or Bo Stevens from Iowa.

But that's it. And as for centers, I'm just going to be blunt. This is not a very good center class. I don't think we're going to see a center go round one. We could very well not see one go round two. So the best one is probably Conor Lou from Auburn and even still at highest. We're looking at mid to late second round. Okay.

Okay. So yeah, deep tackles, guards are iffy in center. I don't know. There's Lou, Jake Slaughter from Florida. That's really it. Maybe Parker Brailsford later on. But yeah, this is not that great of a line class total. That's a tackle.

Is that your cue that you want to move on? Yeah, sure. I mean, I know we're on track to blaze through this episode, but, you know, it's O-Line. A lot of people aren't interested, even though they should be. O-Line's very important. It is. It really is. Look, look, I'm just the messenger, okay?

No, no. We got to appreciate O-Line. No, I completely agree. No, no, not you. I'm talking to the viewers. Next time you're watching football, look at the line, look at the pancakes, and just say, yeah worth every penny and ask yourself why every motherfucker wears a knee brace I shay you not every like and it's not just division one like all the way down to

D3 everyone's wearing a goddamn knee brace that tracks doesn't it though yeah yeah I'm CJ Medeiros and I approve this message because that's the truth that is you're a quarterback you obviously know the importance of the offensive of line. Of course. Like, it's the difference of drafting Will Campbell at number three overall and drafting a guard in third round. Mm-hmm.

Speight of guards. Let's talk about them. According to PFF, these are the top five guys that are in terms of the big board for guards. I'm just going to try. No, I know we're looking at number ones to do it from Penn State. I think he also goes

by Vega. I just call him that Vega. I think it's Okay, okay. Vega. I own it. I don't. I'm not even going to. I think it's Ione. I don't know. Vega, if you see this, I'm very sorry.

I'm sorry, man. You're a fantastic, fantastic guard, but I just can't pronounce. He actually is, yeah. I can't pronounce these Hawaiian names for the life of me, man. Oregon, manual pregnant, Chase Byzantis from Texas A&M, Kaelin Rutledge at Georgia Tech and Jalen Farmer from Kentucky The University

Kentucky Yeah that sounds about right These are very good I like these guys I think these are very good guards but it's kind of top heavy This is the problem

Is all And does PFF have centers? Yeah they do Because once again This center class is not the best I was honestly expecting you to go a little more Dept on guards. That's why I was about a...

No, no, no, you're good. You're good. This is essentially your show, man. I understand, but the point stands. One, I think Jennings Dunker is a guard. Two, Vega Yone is the only guard that is going to go in round one. That's why.

It is not me. It is the class. It is the nature of the beast. Ruttledge is there. There's also Trezune out of Texas A&M. Do you know where? first round he could potentially go. Honestly, it depends. I see him going in the teams.

I've seen Baltimore take him. I've seen Tampa take him in mock drafts. I've seen him last all the way to the Chargers in the 20s. I've seen him fall to the Texans. You know, because honestly, he's a guard. It's not as flashy as even tackle. And tackle's not flashy at all. Yeah.

So do with that what you will. I mean, centers are even more flashy at this rate, but just based off the PFF rank, but there's not a single center that's above 80. And at 80, he's the top ranked center, according to PFF, Connor Liu from Auburn, Sam Heck from Kansas State, Jake Slaughter from Florida, Logan Jones from Iowa. And then there's a massive drop-off, and it's Yeager Burton from the University of Kentucky. which I'm a surprise about Kentucky, to be honest, because there were times where they had good teams,

but didn't have a lot of guys get drafted, or they had much better teams in the past during the, who's the coach that just got fired? I forgot his name, but he's been there for a fucking minute, too. During those years, you know, they had some pretty solid teams that I'm surprised, like more guys didn't get drafted. from those Kentucky teams, or at least till now.

But, yeah, centers. Yeah, Connor Lou is the top dog. He's the center of this draft. And once again, best case scenario, we're looking at mid to late round two. Outside of that, it's really iffy for the center class. I know centers arguably the least flashy position, you know, on the line, or maybe in general.

But, God, this center class is just not the best. And granted, you know, you don't look at these draft classes and say, oh, good golly, this is a deep center class. Fiddle B, D, you know, you don't do that. But when there's a lack of that, it becomes a problem, you know? Yeah. I'm just glad New England doesn't need one. For real. All right.

I guess with that being said, you want to move up. on to tight ends? Yeah. All right. This is actually a very deep tight end class. Yeah. It's a class that's pretty much

led by prospect from Oregon, Kenyon, Sadiq, then Eli Stowers from Vanderbilt, Max Claire from Ohio State, Sam Rosh from Stanford, and Michael Trigg from Baylor.

Yeah, my top five looks mildly different from that. I'm going to be honest. I mean, if you have a different top five. I do, yes. I have Kenyon Sadiq from Oregon, Eli Stowers from Vanderbilt, Max Clare from Ohio State, Joe Royer from Cincinnati, and Oscar Delt from Georgia.

That's just me. So obviously, there's only one tight end going in the first round, and it's Kenyon Sadiq, frankly. I think he's the only one going. There are whispers that maybe Eli Stowers out of Vandy could creep up to be like pick like 30, 31. I don't see it. This is smokescreen season after all, but it would be well deserved regardless.

So everybody loves Kenyon Sadiq. He is in the 100th percentile, meaning he is number one among all tight ends. not just in this class, but like in general, for a 40-time vertical jump and broad jump, running a 43940, a 43.5 inch vertical jump, and a 133-inch broad jump. He also did 26 reps on the bench press, which is in the 91st percentile,

and he had a 1.54 10-yard split, which is the 95th percentile. So this dude's an athlete. He is an athlete straight up, no ifs, ands, ands, or buts. The issue is, even though he's a tight end, he's only 6 foot 3. And he's only 241 pounds, which places him in the 21st and 15th percentiles respectively. But honestly, some people have likened him to a big receiver, and I see why, you know, that 40-time lightning fast. vertical and broad jump insane.

He's super twitched up. The way he moves out of his break is literally wide receiver-esque. Great catching in contact. He effortlessly tracks the ball, and he's able to work zone coverage. The thing is, a lot of scouts think he's going to need to put on a little more mass. You know, let's be real, 241 is a little light for an NFL tight end. And honestly, he's not that much of a blocking tight end. And I'm sorry, call me old school, call me a bit of a stickler.

But I do happen to believe that blocking is important for a tight end. And he is, the effort is there. I will give him that when it comes to blocking. The effort is there. The execution of the technique is not. And it's not even that he gets blown by. He gets really grabby. there have been some really awful holding calls that he gets whenever he loses leverage battles.

So there's that. Either way, I do think Sadiq, just with that freak athletic upside, is worth taking a look at in round one. And he's a round one lock. I think he goes top 20. Some people have him sliding into the top 10 with maybe Kansas City taking him at nine. I don't know if I go that far. but you never know. Then there's Eli Stowers of Vanderbilt.

You know, 6-4-239, so he's even lighter. He's a little bit taller, but he's lighter than Sadiq. Another one, just fast 40-time guy. But this is the way the tight end position has been trending, I think you know. Like it has been this way for years. Ever since Kyle Pitts, there has been no going back. You know, Kyle Pitts and his officials, effect on the tight end have been a disaster for run blocks everywhere.

Once again, it's just he's undersized and he's a very poor run blocker. He gets moved way too easily. And him being that light shows up on press coverage, even against corners, he gets bumped a lot. However, he's fast. He can cover ground quickly. he's got relatively reliable hands. He actually is a background as a quarterback, so that gives him some good feel. He is an insane catch radius, and you can line him up in the back field, the slot,

out wide, in line. He's just versatile. Versatility is the name of his game. And every year he continues to improve, and the trend should keep going upward. So I feel like the fourth, or the third tight end, that we'll look at. I'll go over three because I don't want to bore our listeners at home is Ohio State's Max Clare. Runs a 4-740, which is still good, 70th percentile for tight ends. 64246. Once again, what do we keep saying? It's the same thing again and again and again.

Great athlete, good production, attacks the ball, very versatile. But once again, blocking is a question mark. He's another one that gets grabby. And he's a little light. Once again, like I said, I'm noticing a trend. And I've been noticing it from the past few drafts. I just, come on, can we bring back run block? You don't even have to be a block first tight end. Just humor me, you know?

But there is one guy that I do like, and who I do have in the top five that a lot of people don't. It's Oscar Delp from Georgia. He's 6-5-245 runs, we'll round up and call it a 4-5-40. Did 23 reps on a bench press, a 38-inch vertical jump. The thing that I have with him is that blocking is iffy, but he's another one where at least the effort is there. He could definitely do a chip block, you know? But this guy, he's a monster in the red zone. he's a monster in the open field.

And the thing with Blocking is that's not terrible, but there's actually like room to grow. And not to mention, he eviscerates zone coverage, and he is one of the best pure accelerations of any tight end in this class. So yeah, there's my tight end rant kids. But outside of that, this is actually a deep tight end class. There are other people like Josh Kravos from Alabama,

Marlon Klein from Michigan, Tanner Kossiol from Houston, and John Michael Jelenborg from Wyoming that I do believe are worth looking at in the later rounds. All right. Just saying. And that is CJ's NFL draft preview for offensive line and tight ends. Anything else you wanted to throw out there before we move on? Yeah, not really.

All right. You know what time it is. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Macula grid time. That's time. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy, boy. All right, today we have Vikings, Rams, Vikings, Bucks, Vikings chiefs, Steelers, Rams, Steelers, Bucks, Steelers, Chiefs. And a need a guy that got 50 plus sacks in their career that played for one guy that played for the Rams, a guy that played for the Bucks, and a guy that played for Chiefs. starting out of the Rams, I'm very inclined to hit the Jack Youngblood button. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. But how obvious is he?

I mean, he shouldn't be obvious. But a lot of that came from when sacks weren't recorded. I know the NFL, like the historians will call them, have taken great care to go back and, like, track this stuff. but I don't know. Well, Aaron Donald would be the most obvious. Yeah. So that's why I think.

So I guess the question also, now that I think about it, would be, you know, just do Jack Youngblood, why not? Just see how it is. And it hits like 4%, you know?

Yeah. So for Kansas City, Derek Thomas is the obvious one. Chris Jones, he's also very obvious. Justin Houston is another one, but there was another one. Tambah Ali, you may remember.

He was also really good in his heyday, so he might be obvious. There's another one on Neil Smith, who I think is around the Chris Jones territory of 80-some-on-Sacks. It's him or Holly, who I would go with. I'll go to. I don't know.

Yeah. 4%. Okay. Because I think it's, that's one of those like, the more names you start throwing out, the lower the percentage to end up going at this rate. Do you want to just knock out Tampa? Yeah. Warren Sapp, Gerald McCoy is another one.

Do you think Simeon Rice would be too obvious? No. I do not Because they don't have a lot I don't think Because I was going to say Shaquille Barrett I don't know

Lavante David I don't think did Actually I know he didn't Because you were talking about him Vita Vaya is not there yet A lot of the guys who do have over Oh never mind you did it already But yeah They just don't have a lot in Tampa

Yeah that's what I was thinking too Like I'm curious to see what the final numbers end up showing but Because the theoretically you could go Jason, Pierre-Paul, but not, but I don't think 50 of those sacks came from Tampa. And we have been burned on shit like this before. We have. All right.

The rest of this is maybe a little bit more on the difficult side. Yeah. How do you want to attack this? I'm not sure. I'm just trying to think of like obvious ones off the top of my head. Now, granted, I was up late last night because I had to drive some butter. he's home from the airport and I'd wake up a little bit. Didn't get a ton of sleep.

So my mind is still kind of churning a little bit. I have one. I don't know how obvious it would be. No, I don't. No, I don't. Carson Wentz was on the Rams at one point, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. Can he play a snap?

Well, yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Carson Wentz. Yeah. but how obvious is it going to be? Well, I don't know. Can you think of any other guys that played for the Vikings and the Rams? Cam Acres, I think. Sam Bradford, wait, Sam Bradford?

Yeah, Sam Bradford and Carson went. Sam Bradford may end up being the most obvious. Well, Cam Acres is on the Vikings, right? Yeah, yeah. 33. Jesus, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's no other, like, there's no other, like, ones that we can really think of at that rate.

I'm going to be, I'm going to be mad if, like, Carson Wentz would have been, like, a 10%, but we won't know. No, I would be, too. Don't you worry about that. Sorry, pokey. Don't. Hey, remember Josh Freeman? Yeah. for the buck

he played for the Vikings right yeah yeah that ball off was weird because he was like really he was like solid for the box 10% okay little obvious we can probably hit the Carson Wentz bun on Vikings Chiefs

you want to just for just for fine just for just for the memes you know 21 21 21 All right. Now let's knock out some Steelers. Well, Steelers Rams, the most obvious would be Jalen Ramsey, but I don't like obvious.

That defeats the point. Yeah. Oh, boy. Jerome Bettis is another one. I think he ended up playing for a round for a season or two. Van Jefferson, I know, is all the Steelers. Oh, yeah. wait well

what about Van Jefferson yeah or Z two reason no I think you're good there's also that one white guy Skorneck

oh well too right now 6% hey I'll take I'll take it yeah okay Steelers box just two

combos you don't think about yeah or just a combo you don't think about what the hell do I even do here? Oh, hold up. I know he was on their practice squad for a bit,

but did Levyon Bell ever suit up for Tampa? I don't think so. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure. Because it was also like LaShawn McCoy was also on the roster too. Yeah. Oh my God. There was one due for the Patriots who played for the Bucks

and the Steelers. Yeah, that's him. That, I feel like, is the obvious one, but... No, obvious would it be. He was on Steelers for half a season. Oh, no, you're right. And then he got Bob for him and... And Bell.

Yeah, him and Bell got Bob for on a weed bust. That's right. 5%. All right. We'll take it. Steelers Chiefs. Oh, Oh, anything.

None that really jumps out to me. I know Livian Bell was also on the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah. But there might be others. Like, I'm trying to. Len Dawson actually started in Pittsburgh, but he's like the second best quarterback in Chief's history, so I don't know. All right.

Well, I, the question. Which won't be more obvious between Livyon Bell or Len Dawson? It would have to be Lundon. Or it'd have to be Levy on Bell because like the young... Because I remember I watched a video of all the old quarterbacks the Steelers had like Len Dawson, I think even like Johnny Unitas, where they just let them go before they developed and they became stars elsewhere. But yeah, I think Len Dawson was in fact a Steeler.

That's like deep enough where you're getting to the range where the youngans like us aren't going to think of Lynn Dawson. or like or probably no even know who he is shame it is send it dude was ripping sigs on one of the ogs i was ripped sig on the sign line 2% good pull nice thank you shout out urinating tree for that video that was really good oh yeah anchors was the most obvious uh suckage that is major suckage you're telling you're telling you me, you're telling me that Carson West would have been least obvious than Cam Acres. You know, I blame our generation.

Sam Donald, or not Sam Bradford, would have been least obvious, less obvious than Cam Acres. I'm not sure how to feel about that. Actually, I do know how to feel about that. Not happy. No, no, not happy at all. Vikings Bucks was the hardest one. Brad Johnson as far as we didn't throw his name out there. Grant, it was the most obvious. Dude, I forgot.

I forgot Brad Johnson was a Viking. Yeah. He was a, yeah, he was one of the many, the weird like rotating carousel Vikings quarterbacks in like the late 90s, early 2000s. I was just chucking it up to Chris Carter or Randy Moss. You know, the Vikings, I think, are the most winningest, are the most, yeah, like the most winningest franchise of all four major American sports

to never win their respective championship, I think. Don't quote me on that. But I am fairly certain. Hey, you know what? Google's a thing. Yeah, I'm actually going to, yeah, I think so. All-time winning this. Because when you look at the Vikings, right?

or the most winningest franchises to never win any never win the big one they have hall of famers up and down history on both sides of the ball but quarterback has been the one thing that has alluded them outside of fran tarkington it is in fact the minnesota vikings yeah no um i mean like i said like i said like all the players they've had past and present and then look at quarterbacks. Like I said, I have Fran Targerton. They haven't done anything. And you look at who they've drafted, right?

The last, correct me if I'm wrong, but the last three quarterbacks they drafted in the first round were J.J. McCarthy, Teddy Bridgewater, and Christian Ponder. Yeah. That's the other thing is that the Vikings are one of those teams that just like, they're so much more known for, like, the quarterbacks that they never developed. Yeah. Like, they're known for the quarterbacks.

quarterbacks they brought in like cold pepper brad johnson well brad johnson sam darnold sam darnald case keanum yep case keanum uh uh randle cunningham dante colpepper i say colpeper but yeah oh i didn't catch that but yeah no it's true like honest to god if the vikings ever hit on a qb in the draft like draft the next superstar the league is cooked because they always have talent on both sides of the ball except for quarterback. Yeah. I mean, hell, look at now, right? You got Justin Jefferson, Jordan, S, and T.J. Hawkinson.

Who's throwing the ball? Nine. Oh, and I guess Kyler Murray. Oh, let's just add Kyler. That's another one. That's another one. That's another one. Kirk Cousins, another one.

Good Lord. Sam Bradford was also balling out before he got hurt, and they replaced him with Case Keenham. Yep, yep. All right. That's all the schedule content that we have for you today. What do we, which position group we hit on Friday? You know, it depends.

What do you want? Because here's the way I see it. Here's how I see it. So we have one, two, three. So we have five, or we have one, two, three, four episodes. left before the draft. Are we going to live stream that? We should talk to Adam about that.

Yeah, we'll talk to how about that. Because I know he wants to live stream something. I think this would be the perfect thing to do. So there's that. So we have five episodes before the draft. One of them's got to be our mock draft also, which we're going to do that. So we really have three. So we could do DBs, front seven, and then wide receivers and running backs.

Let's, I say next time around us, knock out DBs. All right. That's what's going to be, kids. you heard it here first. And if that turns out not what it is, we will all blame Chris. No, we'll blame you. Me?

Yep. No. No. Because it's your show. It's your show. It's not my show. That'll do it for us today. Thank you for tuning in to another Tuesday episode of the Fumble Ruski podcast.

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