The Fumblerooski Podcast - The Carousel -Ep 128 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

Do the Colts need to take a new approach to evaluate QB's? Can Tom Brady actually call it quits after this year? Is the AFC East shaping up to be the toughest division? Adam Wright and Cj Medeiros debate these topics as well as give week 8 fantasy waiver wire pickups!

Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's a catch. Oh! It's a catch! Side-line! Touchdown! Week 7 has officially finished off as we move into Week 8. And pretty much towards the halfway mark in the season. I can't believe we're already this far. But we do have plenty to talk about. And I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros.

You are listening to the Fumble Ruski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. So, CJ, you ready to talk some Tom Brady, AFC East, the Colts? The Colts, they just benched Matt Ryan less than halfway through the season. You know, I don't want to talk about Tom Brady like that, but it looks like i'm gonna have to yep we at the end of the day we do have to be an unbiased podcast page and although we are religious tom brady followers we we gotta we gotta speak critically on well i mean yeah yeah i mean

you know you gotta call it like you see and right now i do not like what i'm seeing bros handling a divorce and his team went below 500 and his offensive line is still just completely banged up it's really awful but we're going to jump right into that and so the page excuse patriots so the buccaneers lose and they fall to three and four this is the first time a brady-led team has fallen below 500 seven weeks into the season since 2002 so cj i have to ask this question and i'm dying inside asking this is tom brady done after this season i don't know plain and simple i do not know now i think i saw like on bleach report he said something along the lines of there's no plans for retirement in my future

but i honestly for the first time i don't know if i believe him i mean maybe his struggles this season you can attribute, you know, to the impending divorce. You know, I imagine it weighs on him. His O-line's banged up. His whole team's just crumbling. I just don't understand, like, what's going on. And I would say his age is showing, but you saw that.

I don't know if you watched the Carolina game, but Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, Brady was placing the ball like right on them, and they were just dropping wide open easy passes, especially Mike Evans in that first quarter. Godwin, too, a little bit, but like, I mean, I don't know. Just if I were Brady right now, I would ride out the rest of the year, and I would say, you know what? I'm done.

I'm done. I mean, think about it. He's the GOAT. We know he's the GOAT. He has nothing left to prove. You know, just ride off into the sunset and don't become a withered husk of yourself like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or Ben Roethlisberger in their final years. Remember those? Those were goddamn terrible.

But is Brady done? I mean, that's really the only question Brady himself can answer. I can tell you that if I were Brady, he'd be done, but I'm leaning toward no. I don't think he'll like allow himself to be done. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So the way I look at it, he may not be done with his playing career at least i don't believe so he could he could he could retire but i think he's going to be done as a buccaneer he might go somewhere else because we already have seen confirmed rumors that the dolphins did in, go all in on Tom Brady to try and land him and Sean Payton in the past. And it seems like it almost happened.

So clearly he had some sort of desire to go there. And, of course, after it dies out, Bruce Arians is out. So it's interesting how this all worked out. Now, will he be a Miami Dolphin? Who knows? They might stick with Tua. But I do think, like, with the way this team is going, the chemistry with him and the team just doesn't seem the same.

He doesn't seem on the same page with Mike Evans or Chris Godwin. You can't just blame the two of the better running wide receivers in the game. You can't do that. And you also can't look at Tom Brady and say, this guy can still play. He can't still play because it looks like he still has the abilities, and he doesn't look like he's lost really that much. In fact, I don't think he's lost anything at all.

It seems like a mental thing. Maybe something off the field with all this stuff going on with his family. Maybe something with adjusting to a new coach. It's Todd Bowles who runs a much different offense that may not make Tom Brady quite as happy. Maybe he didn't like Bruce Arians, but say what you want about him. He always let the quarterback throw the ball. He let him sling it.

And Brady loved it. And he threw 40 or more touchdown passes in each of the past two seasons. He's absolutely not on pace to do that this season. He'll be lucky if he hits 30 at this point. And maybe it's partially that. But really, I just can't look at it in his physical ability. It doesn't look like those are diminished right now. And it also doesn't look like he's on the same page with the rest of the team,

which might tell me that maybe he's not done in general with playing football. But I do think he might move on to a different team. Because, I mean, you don't come out of retirement, wind up getting a divorce, just to hang it up after one year. You just don't do that at that point. I know he has a deal with Fox, but I bet they'd wait it out for a couple of years. It's Tom Brady. They're going to wait. But the way you look at it, it just wouldn't make sense for him to retire

after just this one year. It just doesn't anymore. I thought it made sense before because I thought he would go out with a ring. Then he had all these issues with his family. And, like, also these issues with the team, you can't go out like this. You can't. He's practically losing his family. There's no way you lose all of that just to say, yeah, I'm done after this year.

You know? I just don't see it that way, especially since he clearly still has the physical ability to do it on the NFL level. So that's kind of my two cents. Yeah, I hear you. I do. And I mean, I do agree. You know, when you say that that he might be done with Tampa, but not done in the league. But once again, before we end the segment i will reiterate if he were smart he would hang it up and adam i know you said that oh no he shouldn't do that but i mean at this point salvage what you can with giselle and your children and just get out because

you always say you wanted to play till age 45 and guess what he's 45 you know you made a promise now just hang it up because you have that multi-million dollar deal with fox just go do that man and honestly i'm starting to get a little worried about him it's like i know he eats sleeps and breathes football but oh man i uh i'm starting to worry that it's going to be like the death of him. I'm not talking about like physically. I'm saying that everything in his social life will like just wither all around him. Right, but I'm just worried at this point now

that maybe it's, I mean, they hired divorce lawyers. So it doesn't seem like you, does this, I mean, I'm not, I have no ties in that family, obviously. But when you hire divorce lawyers, does that not seem like it's not salvageable? Like it seems like they both intend to. I don't know. Maybe, maybe not.

I don't know. That isn't necessary. Hey, man, a divorce isn't official until 10 hits paper. That's true. Just ask Josh McDaniels and the Colts. Yeah. And if he decides to hang it up and they salvage everything, good for him. He goes out, happy ending.

Maybe the Bucs make the playoffs. Maybe they don't. They are in first right now, technically. Yeah, but their whole division is garbage. First is first. And if you get first, you're automatically in the playoffs. Yeah, Seattle was 7-9 into that, and look what happened to them. Just got to find a way to sneak in.

Could be the first 7-9 team to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. And Tom Brady will create another milestone. Just kidding. This team has a very small chance of winning the Super Bowl, if any. So for those of you accusing me of bias, there you go. I don't believe in this Buccaneers team. I don't. And I wish Tom Brady the best in whatever he does going forward.

But we do want to move on. So now that we've talked about Tom Brady, we're going to talk about that AFC East division, which is looking awfully competitive. And we'll hit on all the storylines hitting with them because it's a very eventful division, plenty of headlines going around from around the league in the AFC East. We'll hit on that next.

This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. No sign yet. Hamilton comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's caught. It's a catch. Side-line. Touchdown. Unbelievable. Slings it way down the field to Watkins.

Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros. So, the AFC East division has gotten a little dicey, but yet competitive. So the Buffalo Bills, first place, six and one record, or no, five and one. Yeah, I think they're five and one. Five and one, because they had a bye. That's correct. Then you have the New York Jets, five and two. Then you have the Miami Dolph four and three and then after that the patriots at three and four they're the only team below 500 and they did have a chance to go above it when they did not and got blown out by the bears but cj do you see this being like the NFC East of the AFC?

So the other East team becoming the most competitive? You know what? Yeah, I do. And I would actually argue that the AFC East is far and away the most competitive in the AFC. In fact, you could argue they're probably what the AFC West was supposed to be, if you catch my drift. I mean, consider this. We all know someone's got to be, if you catch my drift. I mean, consider this. We all know someone's got to lose, and it looks like right now it's the Patriots, but the Patriots in and of themselves aren't that bad of a team. I mean, they've shown that they can win. They already have three wins, and Miami has had some bad luck with injuries and Tua Tagovailoa

with his brain getting destroyed. The are surprising everyone and the bills are exactly who we thought they were going to be so yeah i wouldn't now i do think this division is buffaloes to lose but unlike the beginning of the year i don't think that it's clear cut they're going to take it no questions asked every team whether it be the Patriots, who, you know, like I said, they're not the best, but they have some fight in them, or the Dolphins or Jets, who are also above 500. Any one of these teams can win or lose on any given day, and you can't just call the division quite yet.

But long story short, Adam, to answer your question, I would say the afc east is the most competitive team in the afc honestly second and probably the second most in the nfl just behind the nfc east yeah i would say that it's honestly the it is like looking just looking at the records here among the afc it's really been a disappointing conference because of all those players who flocked over to the AFC, especially the AFC West, which has been very disappointing. Half of that division is below.500. The Vegas Raiders, 2-4.

Denver Broncos, 2-5. Other than that, I mean, really? You got the Buffalo B at five and one and so here's here's one part that here's two parts that we want that you and i wanted to discuss off camera the new york jets might be five and two but they just lost their most dynamic weapon in breeze hall at at the running back position this has been a team that's been very defense and running the ball oriented. Their defense has been dominant this year. I wouldn't say dominant, but very, very good.

And Brees Hall has led that rushing game, and now they leave it to Michael Carter. Then they go out and they trade for James Robinson. So they have those two to lead the backfield do you see so without breese hall do you see them still being able to produce on the same level uh offensively not really i mean this is no disrespect to james robinson you know who they traded for but he's not Brees Hall. Brees Hall was arguably the frontrunner to get Offensive Rookie of the Year this year,

and that's definitely going to take a big chunk out of their running game. And for those of you at home that are saying, oh, but what about Michael Carter? Hey, do you really think they trust him to be RB1? They literally just traded for James Robinson. That doesn't exactly scream I'm comfortable michael carter being rb1 but what i don't know i don't even know if the jets were legit like to begin with because they're winning but they're not but other than the dolphins game they're not really winning pretty you know i mean there's a difference you and i know between a win and a convincing win.

I mean, but if you're winning like these 16 to 9 scrums, I'm going to have to look at you a little funny. And the road's just going to get a little bit tougher without Brees Hall. Now, I do like Robert Sala, but I really don't know if he can make them like a playoff contender. But then again, the AFC is just really up for grabs, so who really knows at this point. But yeah, I think it's going to be a little bit tougher without Hall.

Yeah, I mean, when you have that workhorse back who is like a special talent, I mean, you look at some of the running backs around the league, the Dalvin Cooks, the Christian McCaffrey's around the, around the league. You can even say Najee Harris, whenever he has a competent offensive line and a quarterback like Ben Roethlisberger is willing to pepper him with targets. Then that's pretty hard to, that's pretty hard to replace. Even when you go with a little committee with James Robinson and Michael Carter, who are both very respectable in their own rights, but like this could take a hit because it's not really

the same as that one dynamic guy who can make everyone miss. He can do everything. Neither though, like I've always liked Michael Carter andter and i love james robinson i'm very impressed by his by his progress from this eight from this achilles tear but like i don't see i really i really hope they can figure it out but i don't i just they might still win games because they're five and two and they're on a roll. And just their offense might not be the same. And they might need to go more towards a passing offense. Maybe a little more. Not quite.

I mean, we're not going with a pass-first offense. But they're going to have to get more involved in the passing game with Garrett Wilson. Yeah, Garrett Wilson. Corey Davis. Elijah Moore, even though he asked for a trade. They're going to have to do that, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, I agree.

However, I would like to say one thing. Yeah. For those who don't know, remember how I said, zach wilson you know they're winning but they're not winning pretty a lot of that like i said you know like i'm about to say it comes down to zach wilson he hasn't thrown a touchdown since october 2nd he is a completion percentage of 57 percent 693 passing yards a touchdown and two picks for a passer rating of 73.6 yep that's all i'm saying i mean if so jets you're five and two i'm happy for you i am but if you want to reach that upper echelon if you want to be true contenders and not just a one and done wild card you're gonna you're gonna

have to start airing it out a little bit more you drafted zach wilson the second you know with the overall pick time to trust him yeah i mean defense and running the ball man defense and running the ball which has been exactly what they've done and And it has worked. Just if you're going, like, now that they don't have Brees Hall anymore, I just think they might have to go to more of, they might have to trust the passing game with Zach Wilson now.

And they have some pieces that they can throw to, that just they haven't this year. So they're going to have to figure it out with Zach Wilson and start to take the training wheels off with him, even though we're two years in. What? This is only his second season. That's what I'm saying, second season.

Oh, okay. He's on to his second season, so this is where you need to start seeing strides from him. But, you know, like, what did he have? Like 10 completions for 186 yards? Last game. And no touchdowns in his last game? Last game, yeah, like 121 yards and a completion percentage of 61%.

No touchdowns, no picks. All right. So, like, oof. I can see why Elijah Moore wants a trade, just saying. And I'm not willing to give up on him just yet. No, I mean, neither am I. The fact that they don't trust him yet. They don't trust him to start throwing the ball yet. It's a bit of a problem.

A little bit. So there's our Jets take. But I wanted to get to the Patriots specifically. Now, we were talking about making this the segment for our second segment, but Patriots, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappi, here's what happened on Monday Night Football. Mac Jones throws a pick. He's limping around, and they take him out of the game early. Then Bailey Zappi comes in.

He almost immediately throws a touchdown pass to Jacoby Myers. He threw a great jump ball to Devontae Parker, and they were able to, in a blink of an eye, turn a 10-0 deficit to a 14-10 lead in like that. Then the wheels fell off after that, like shortly after that. It quickly fizzled out. And next thing you know, Daley Zappi's final stat line ends with a 1-2 touchdown to interception ratio.

He threw two picks. So the part that's been really helping him, the fact that he's just not turning the ball over, that wasn't the case this game. So who do you start now? Because now you have two quarterbacks who are both really struggling now. Like, we could realistically have a situation

where they both suck. Well, Adam, there's an old old saying if you have two quarterbacks you have none and good god i'm hoping that's not true now if you will consider this are you considering i'm thinking okay good good good good not think consider but But seriously, Mack, I love Mack Jones. I really do. I have his jersey. But I feel so bad for him. You can tell by his body language on the sideline. He doesn't trust us anymore. He really doesn't. We have shattered his confidence. And when your first round quarterback doesn't trust you nor does he have any confidence you're in a worrisome place and now maybe bailey zappy's not all that bill

mac made one mistake and you got greedy you threw in zappy and now look what happened and do you know adam yeah what the scariest part is. Yeah. Are you ready? What's the scariest part? Let's hurry up here. Doug Kidd said, Jacoby Myers outright said he was surprised Mac was pulled quickly, and so was Mike on Wenu.

And in fact, apparently there's not much communication from coaches to receivers. Apparently they planned on playing both quarterbacks it wasn't communicated well with the team and even uh patriots insider justin ramos said quote one patriots player in particular after last night went up to mac jones and apologized to him saying he didn't know he would be benched and there are people in the own or in our own organization who are questioning and wondering like why bill's literally calling a different offense for zappy versus jones there's drama here and i hate it well i don't know maybe

i mean it seems like this type of offense that they're running with Zappi was the type that they ran with Mac Jones. Is that correct? No, it was not. Zappi's taking more deep shots. No, so it was Mac Jones last season. That's what I mean. And they kind of played more of a conservative play style.

No, but the offense under Zappi these past few weeks were a lot more explosive. I'm just saying a couple plays i mean every now and then whenever when bailey zappy decides to throw the ball he hucks at 40 yards it's either that or it's a screenplay there's really not much in between with him but like it seemed i mean it seems that mac jones they just want to play more of a – they want to go with more – take the training wheels off and run an offense where they're throwing the ball all over the place,

being the Justin Herbert, the Joe Burrow. They may not have the weapons that he has, but I think they're respectable. I think Kendrick Bourne, if they could get him out of the freaking doghouse, can do something. I think Devontae Parker has shown tremendous flashes that he can be a wide receiver one. Also, don't forget Kendrick... Jacoby Myers? No,

Tyquan Thornton's been showing flashes too. And it looks like that Patriots team has been giving him the opportunities because Nelson Aguilar only saw a few snaps on that team. But Tyquan Thornton has been taking significant snaps. Yeah. So looking at that, all right.

I don't know anymore. We're going to want to move on, but we're going to get to the Colts and how they have gone through 12 different starting quarterbacks in, what is it, the past four seasons? Something like that. It's pretty bad. So we're going to talk about their – we're going to question their approach and what they should do differently.

Now that they've benched Matt Ryan, don't go anywhere. This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. Here's Edelman broken up in the past. No sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's a catch. It's a catch. To Gates!

Sideline! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power88, Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros. So, head coach Frank Reich suggested on Monday that the Colts are going to bench quarterback Matt Ryan, the starter. Their prized acquisition for backup Sam Ellinger and he is now the 12th quarterback to start under Frank Reich since

2018 so CJ they've kind of gone they haven't really drafted a quarterback at least a significant one that they're trying to you know be their franchise guy they've been bringing in a lot of guys who are either bridge, are either bridges or quarterbacks who they want to be the next Peyton Manning on the Broncos. So do you think they need to take more of a conservative approach? What do you think they should start doing? Well, first I, well, what do you mean by conservative approach? As in,

how about we draft a quarterback and develop them early on let's say in the first round yes is that even a question yes for the past like four and a half seasons five seasons if you would in ever since andrew lux retired indy has just had bridge quarterback after bridge quarterback after bridge quarterback. Carson Wentz was an experiment. He drafted Sam Ellinger for some reason. I mean, I liked him in Texas, but he's like a fifth or sixth round pick. And I highly doubt he's going to be like the next Tom Brady.

You know, Matt Ryan. Did anyone really think Matt Ryan would be here for the long haul? I mean, I'm fairly certain I've said this on the show before, but Indy just needs to rip off the Band-Aid and just draft someone in the first round. I mean, that's all I can say. No more bridge quarterbacks. Your fans are tired of it.

The analysts are tired of it. Heck, even I'm tired of it. It's just your team will not progress until you get a franchise guy. The longer you wait, you know, the more your window closes. You don't want to waste people like Shaq Leonard and Jonathan Taylor. Believe me. Yeah, look. So it seems like they've gone in the past, let's say, 10 years.

They've gone to a couple of they've gone to two extremes. So they started off in 2011 they tanked after they got rid of peyton manning and the whole suck for luck campaign went on and they went and got andrew luck and now that they've moved on from and now that they've moved on to from andrew luck they've gone for let's find that one quarterback who's a veteran and try to go all in for a championship like the Broncos did in the early 2010s. And that's clearly not working. Because, I mean, it's hard to find a quarterback who is that old and still has it. And, you know, you also need to to they need to figure out the playbook it has worked a couple of times the with tom brady it worked out but he's he's a he's just a different animal it's it's hard to just compare a quarterback to tom brady

especially this late in the in the game he's freaking, but like they do what everyone else is doing because you need to find you. Like, I know it's a pain because finding that next guy is hard, but that's the best way to do it. Find a quarterback, develop him. And you take three years. That's, that's the template three years to figure out whether or not he's the guy. If not, you toss him aside, you try again. And that seems hard, but they have to. Because what they're doing isn't working. They're dragging things out.

In the time that they've moved on from Locke, it's been four years. They could have found two different quarterbacks in the first round by now found out one didn't work then drafted another one and then that guy works out and next thing you know we're right here during in the present day 2022 not 2018 and you have that guy of the future that's not really like you're just dragging things out in the years where you have Brissett starting, where you have let me let me bring up where you have Carson went starting when you have Philip Rivers, freaking Brian

Hoyer. They have Brian Hoyer for I keep forgetting that they had Brian Hoyer for a couple years. Sam Ellinger, I forgot, I forgot they had Phillip Rivers. Sam Ellinger already started a couple games. Actually, I don't think he did. Did he? Carson Wentz started the whole season. I don't know. But still, just, you've got, they need to change the way they're going about things because

like they have they do have some good talent around them just they're not the quarterback situation is the part that they that they're kind of trying to cheap out on they're just trying to bring in some old veterans and figuring out whether or not these guys can, these guys can take him to the promised land. Carson Wentz, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, those three guys who are, maybe if they were in their primes, they'd be able to do a little, a little something. But at this point in their careers, I mean, come, you don't, it's not every day where you see a peyton manning or a tom brady

who is just able to to do what they do late in their careers it's just that's too that's rare that's very rare i don't know that's my two cents yeah yeah you're correct but we do want to move on and we're going to go on to the fumble Rooski Fantasy Fix where we are going to give you guys our Week 8 waiver wire pickups. So we're going to tell you exactly who you should pick up in your league. So don't go anywhere. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's in.

Oh! It's in! Sideline! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88.

Secret Weapon Consulting, Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros. We have reached the Fumble Rooski Fantasy Fix where we give you fantasy football advice. We go on Tuesdays, Waver Wire Pickups, and Thursdays, Stardom, excuse me, Fridays, Stardom Sit-Ums. So today, of course, is waiver wire pickups. So we're going to start with running backs, where I'm going to give you Deontay Foreman and Gus Edwards, two players who really impressed this past week and are most likely on your waiver wire.

They're free agents. Go out and get them if they're not already. Then for wide receiver, we have Paris Campbell and Mikol Hardman, two players who are also not widely owned, but you should still try and get them on your roster. Going off to tight ends, Taysom Hill and Greg Dulkic. Then going to quarterback streamers, we're going to give you Daniel Jones, who is facing Seattle this week.

And we have Sam Ellinger versus Washington. And going on to defense slash special teams streamers, we're going to give you the Jacksonville Jaguars defense versus Denver. And then the Panthers at Atlanta. So there is your official week eight waiver wire pickups for the Fumble Rooski podcast so good luck for you to you guys on those picks and that has been your Fumble Rooski fantasy fix up next we're going to get to our Fumble Rooski fan box. We're going to get you guys to predict the Giants' final regular season record. That's next.

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And we will discuss it and give you a shout-out on our podcast. Respond to next week's fan box question to be featured on our show. Now, question of the week and more of a statement or a command as you will as if you will predict the Giants final regular season record so one of the great surprises this season at a six and one start for the Giants I kind of got curious what do you guys think his their final record is going to be Because they're off to a hot start, which nobody saw coming, or at least many people didn't. So going on to our answers, we have Damon Bergfeld, who said 9-8.

So essentially predicted a collapse, if you will. Zachary Stilson said 12-5. I'd say that's a pretty good record. So that would mean they're 6-1. That would mean they're going like 5-6, correct? 5-6, or excuse me, 6-5. So that's like 500 down the stretch it's crazy to predict such a great record would be only six and five down the stretch

but uh mike braun said 10 six and one so that's bold predicting a tie in there those are very rare yeah go big or go home i guess or tie um and landon weber said 10 and 7 i'd say so because they're exceeding expectations i guess i could see these lower records to be i guess realistic sounds right because i just it feels like they're performing better than their record suggests. Like they're still being – they're still competitive, but this feels like a 500 team. Yeah. They've been performing. But Robert Canedo said 12-5, another one where it's a good record,

but it suggests that they go six and five down the stretch so kind of still a collapse there uh cola dj said nine and eight so another major collapse right there um that means you get a losing record down the stretch eli turner said they have a lot of easy games so so 12-5. That's still a 6-5 record after this. Steven Parker said if Saquon is healthy, their schedule seems easy, 13-4. That is an interesting point to bring up, is that Saquon has been the staple of this team. Without him, they haven't been able to produce any offense.

It's not Daniel Jones who's doing it. He's doing great not turning the ball over, but in terms of putting points on the board, it's been Saquon who's been, it's courtesy of Saquon. So yeah, if he gets hurt, then this all goes down the drain, doesn't it? All of it. They may finish with a losing record if he gets hurt because they have nothing else. Their wide receiving core is respectable, but it's always hurt. Always hurt. Oh, and Adam? Yeah.

I would like to quickly bring up Daniel Jones' stat line. This is another thing where, I mean, he's keeping the mistakes to a minimum but only a 66 percent completion percentage about 1,223 yards 66 is pretty good yeah it's good but you know six touchdowns really good but i mean he's not putting the team on his back end winning games you know he hasn't even passed for over 300 yards this year his His highest is 217. Right. So that's what I'm saying. He's been more of a kind of a game manager. Like he's not the reason they're losing, which is actually big for a quarterback. It's a very underrated thing. He's also not the reason they're winning either.

Because just not – it can. Because just not turning the ball over and keeping the defense off the field while you're running back and Saquon Barkley is running the clock out, that's huge. So I do think that can be part of it. Because once you turn the ball over, that whole scheme goes away. So I do think it's part of it. He's just not playing a huge factor.

He's not lighting the world on fire. Yeah, that's true. So Isaac Zonana said 11-6. So, yeah, that's another realistic one. Your boy Ian or Ian Mulhern also said 11-6. That's a reasonable record. It means they finished going down the stretch with a losing record, but Dylan Powell said 13-4, as well as William Mantle, who also said 13-4.

Perhaps. That's a pretty – that's a bold record, 13-4. For the Daniel Jones-led – the Daniel Jones-led Giants. I don't even think they're going to be better than Philly, to be perfectly honest. You think they're going to be better? No, I said I don't think that. Well, yeah.

I mean, Philly's 6-0. Yeah, but is Philly going to go above 13-4? We'll never know until the season's over. I think they will. Perhaps. We'll see what happens, barring some epic collapse. But that is the last of our responses. CJ, any other thoughts

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