The Fumblerooski Podcast - The Inevitable -Ep 228 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

Raiders Womp Chargers 63-21 on TNF, Brandon Staley and GM Tom Telesco are FIRED. Chris Costich, CJ Medeiros, and special guest Christian Clark give their take and previewing the rest of the Week 15 slate.

A historic Thursday night football whomping. Raiders taking down the Chargers and Brandon Staley and Tom Telesco getting fired. As well as Saturday games, the 1 p.m. slate, and the rest of the Sunday games, and potentially trivia here on the Fumble Rooski Podcast. We'll be right back. And the man comes down with a football, they're saying it's a catch. It's in, it's caught! It's a catch! Side-hide! Touchdown!

Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Good afternoon. You're listening to the Fumble Whiskey Podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Chris Kostich. Alongside me, CJ Medeiros and a very special guest, a longtime friend of mine and host of a new podcast that just came out hop culture nerds and brews all things pop culture movies sports comics wrestling tv music video games craft beer mental health and life itself i'm just reading that straight from the bio christian but my longtime friend christian clark christian thanks for joining us thanks for, man. Thanks. Tell us a little bit of the podcast.

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fan that's also a nerd that loves comic books, beer, wrestling, all of the above, check out his podcast. We'll start out. Raiders whomping the Chargers 63-21 last night. The big story here, of course, just happening about an hour ago, head coach Brandon Staley and GM Tom Telesco getting fired.

And in the case of Staley, this was a long time coming. He probably should have gotten fired last year, maybe two years ago. And for a defensive guy that – or for a head coach that should have a defensive mind, just had an abysmal defense, and it's about damn time that he got fired. Christian, since you're our guest, I'll let you start out first opening thought man yeah like you said it's a it's a long time coming you know I think his leash was a lot longer uh than uh it should have been um and as you said the defensive mind like should have had a much better defense given the names and the talent that are on that defense and have been on that defense. And, like, man, yeah, like you said, he should have been fired a long time ago.

And, you know, I'm excited to see, you know, what's next for the Chargers now that, you know, they don't have this goofball holding them back. This is big for Herbert. This is big for Herbert. This is big for the team and hopefully the defense, as you were saying. Yep, I definitely made the mistake of picking up the Chargers defense, not expecting them to make the Las Vegas Raiders coming off of being shut out by the Vikings look like the greatest show on turf for the 07 Patriots,

but kicking myself in the butt for that. Yeah, no, Staley, yeah, fresh start, man. Got to get rid of the GM, too. Good call. Just a little too late. Yeah, honestly, considering how long of a leash he had, I'm surprised that they didn't wait to fire him until Monday after week 18. Yeah.

CJ, what do you think? Yeah. I do think this was in the making, for lack of a better term. I honestly thought after last season's just horrific implosion against the Jaguars, I thought they were going to ax him then and there. But no, no, they kept him around. That's not something I would have done. But now, I mean, after last night, I was honestly shocked they didn't fire him at halftime. It was atrocious.

And you look at the Raiders, who, oh my God, you saw what happened against the Vikings last week. A team whose offense was dead in the water, who's starting Aiden O'Connell, who I believe was more known for his rookie photo shoot than anything he actually did on the field. Is that the guy I'm thinking of? I'm not sure. Oh, I think you're thinking of the Saints backup, right?

Oh, the Saints backup. Hainer. Hainer. Yeah. Sorry, I got confused. Scratch that. Scratch that. But Aiden O'Connell, who is just not expected to do anything,

goes out there and just throws touchdown after touchdown after touchdown on your so-called good defense it was just abysmal and let's just look at the the Chargers real quick how did you let this happen look I know you're missing Justin Herbert and I know you're missing Keenan Allen but I didn't realize that Herbert and Allen played defense because you would assume they were missing from there too you have a defense that has Khalil Mack right you know it's got Khalil Mack it has Derwin James Asante Samuel Jr. Kenneth Murray and and you got curb stomped that is atrocious and even before Herbert and Allen were hurt, you were still underperforming.

It's just, now the Chargers, you know, you're in great danger of wasting Herbert, and you had to roll the dice and fire Staley. However, I'm going on a bit too long, so I'll cut it off here. I just want to say, I'm not sure I entirely agree with Telesco getting booted too, but we can come back to that yeah that's kind of where i was gonna lead into was the telesco firing and cj we're talking about this uh on the phone right before

we got on the pod that he's been around since 2013 right so that's correct he has brought in a lot of talent kean allen mike williams herbert austin eckler trade there's so much he made the huge trade for khalil mac you know he's done a great job for the team in general yeah he's made a couple way chris by the way you mind if i just like go through this like really fast about who he's actually like brought on because there's so many yeah yeah yeah uh rapid fire here dj fluker keenan allen jason ferret jeremiah attachu melvin gordon joey bosa hunter henry mike williams dan Joey Bosa, Hunter Henry, Mike Williams, Dan Feeney, Desmond King, Derwin James, Kyser White, Nasir Adderley, Drew Tranquil, Justin Herbert, Kenneth Murray, Asante Samuel Jr., Rashawn Slater, Zion Johnson, who, you know,

was a running back for them, Jamari Sawyer, who's becoming one of the better guards in the league. And now he hasn't looked that great, but Quentin Johnston does have some real potential. So look at all those guys that he's brought in. And whether you like some of his contracts or not, like you said, he brought in guys like Khalil Mack, did he not? And he brought in your center, Corey Lindsley.

He brought in Kyle Van Noy he brought in guys like Linval Joseph last season so I just I'm not entirely sure that this was the right move especially from the draft he's one of the better drafting GMs in the league but I don't know what to tell you yeah I feel like his only real big miss was signing J.C. Jackson. And I think that him going in front of the team and apologizing for having done that signing to begin with was kind of a bad look and made it seem worse than what – or made his position seem worse than what it actually was for,

as you just pointed out, CJ, all the guys that he's brought in like one miss in it's a needle in a haystack of in terms of that um christian any final thoughts about that yeah no i i agree you know it just seems nowadays like every time they're canning the head coach, they're canning the GM, too. Didn't that just happen? I'm blanking right now, but didn't that just happen a few weeks ago? It happened for the Raiders. They canned McDaniels and the GM. Yep.

Oh, yeah. It always seems like it's, like, they take that now, and they just, like, it's, like, a fresh start because I know a lot of, a lot of head coaches now want that like GM power too. So it's probably going to help with their search for next season, which we'll get into that after. I think I have, I have a, I have a,

I have a prediction who I think might be the next head coach of the Chargers, but we'll see. Yeah, man. Is it a Belichick? Maybe. Yeah, man. Is it Belichick? Maybe. Yeah, I think that seems to be the theme for a lot of people.

It's either he's going to go to the commanders or the chargers, in my opinion. I don't think, you know, I think, you know, not the… Why would you go to the commanders? Why would you go to the commanders, right? That's part of the rumors, though. That's part of the rumors. Yeah, I did hear about that, too. Why would you go to the commanders right you're that's that's part of the rumors no that's part of the rumors yeah i didn't hear about that too like why would you go to commanders um the charges make a lot of sense though because i mean we just just named off a bunch of great players that are

still on the team too um a defense that should be good um an offense that should be good with a great young quarterback i mean it's in los angeles it's a great place to settle down and retire you know um i feel like high taxes maybe yeah well then again massachusetts so i don't know you win some you lose some yeah so yeah so we'll move on from that um we'll take a quick break when we come back we'll get into our week fifth the rest of the Week 15 slate here on the Fumble Rooski Podcast. We'll be right back. No sign yet. Hamilton comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's caught.

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We move on to the week 15 slate, starting out with the Saturday games. There's some potential here, not a lot, but we'll start with the one o'clock game, the Bengals versus the Vikings, Jake Browning versus Nick Mullins. This Bengals by three is currently what the line's at right now.

I feel like this has potential to be a good game, but all signs kind of point towards the Bengals for me. Christian, we'll start with you. Yeah, no, I think I would agree. I think that Browning's gone out there and done a very good job. Obviously, he's no Joe Burrow, but I think he's been playing above serviceable. I mean, kind of inexcusable if you can't with talent around him. But, yeah, I got the Bengals over the Vikings.

Let's just hope that we can see a healthy Justin Jefferson play more than a couple of catches. That'd be great. Stay healthy for the sake of my sanity and my fantasy team. And for the sake of him, man, you know? Yeah. I got it. Like you said, it's got potential. It's got potential.

It's like, you know, on paper, it might not be too pretty because, you know, we're on, what, our third or fourth Minnesota Vikings quarterback this year alone. And then we got Jake Browning's been good, though. So, I mean, Bengals are fun to watch, even without Burrow so far. But, yeah, I got the Bengals over the Pikes. Yeah, Browning has been playing like a starting quarterback, so it kind of feels weird for playing well enough to be a starter.

So it kind of does feel weird to be saying, oh, it's a backup bowl or one of the backup bowls that we got on the slate. CJ, what do you got? This game is interesting because I don't know what to make of jake browning he's actually been playing pretty well i mean he's not a world beater like burrow but he's stepped in he's been a game manager he's minimized like super egregious mistakes and he's you know leading them to wins because you know the bangles do have a good roster around them. The O-line's gotten a little better. You have Jamar Chase and Joe Mixon, T. Higgins, and so on.

But then there's just the Vikings. Oh, my God, how the mighty have fallen. Those good feelings surrounding Josh Dobbs, I think, have just gone down the toilet. You know, Alexander Madison turns out can't be an RB1. Well, he's out anyways. Yeah, and he is out. But even before that, it wasn't looking pretty. Yeah.

And the O-line has like one or two good pieces. Everything else, I'm just not sold on. Justin Jefferson, man, just the injury that that's a that's just painful and the defense is as is as atrocious as ever honestly this should be this should go the bangles the vikings are just way too injured it's like yeah you know like i mean look at that they i've seen crackheads at a 7-11 that have more composure and have their life better put together than the Minnesota Vikings. That's just the truth. It's just, it's bad for them.

And you're going to be steeped in at least, at minimum, a three-year rebuild. It's over. I know you might be contending for a playoff spot, Minnesota, but punt the season because your worst-case scenario is that you do make the playoffs, and then you get pimp-smacked back to reality. Someone's got

to get that seventh seed. Someone's got to get it. But yeah, especially with the fact that Kirk about to be a free agent, it's – like you said, CJ, it's not going to be looking pretty for the future. 4.30 game, Steelers versus Colts. Still got another game of Mitchell Trubisky.

Colts by one and a half. I'd say Colts by – I'd say Colts by seven, honestly. That's how I'm confident I'm feeling about the Colts, especially with the way that their defense has been playing. Give me the Colts all day. Yeah, I definitely agree, man. I'm going Colts, man. I think the Steelers do tend to have some of those games

where that Mike Tomlin magic, like on paper they shouldn't be winning you know you know you know how it is man i mean they haven't had a losing season during his tenure right so it's like they're probably gonna win a few more garbage games but i don't think this is this is one of those the cults are pretty hot minchu's been pretty good um you know even without without Jonathan Taylor playing, I mean, most of the season now, right? I mean, he played a couple games.

Yeah, they're rolling, and I think they're going to continue to roll a bit. Yeah, I'd say about the same. Colts by 7, 10. Yeah, and another thing to – so obviously Jonathan Taylor out for Saturday as well. And another thing to note here that I'm just looking at, Colts are home. Colts are two and four at home. Steelers are three and two away. So Colts struggling a lot more than a home team should be in terms of that.

CJ, what's your pick here? Steelers, Colts. of that um cj what's your pick here uh steelers cults once again it's another backup bowl because the cults you had anthony richardson who had his own question marks i mean i know i had my misgivings about coming out of the draft who is a high-flying rookie who's done you have gardner minshu he's okay but the Steelers, just the mounting questions surrounding this team make Mount Everest look small by comparison. It's just, how did you let this happen? How did you let this happen? You fire Matt Canada. He was supposed to be your boogeyman. He was the problem. And guess what? He's gone. What's the excuse? I couldn't tell you. And you have, I believe Mitch Trubisky is still going to be playing. And you have a defense that was just picked apart by Bailey Zappi of all people. And I don't know, it should be the Colts. This game, I feel like, will either be the Colts dominating or it's going to be just an ugly, ugly defensive slugfest.

It's going to be one or the other. Either way, I don't really have Pittsburgh winning. I think there's the problem with the Steelers that they have so many injuries on the defensive side that I kind of want to give them a pass. But like you said, it's talking about Baileyiley zappy and a patriots team that couldn't get in the end zone for four straight games um but yeah colts all day regardless uh last game on the saturday slate the main event of saturday night broncos lions should be a fun one uh lions by four and a half lines are four and two at home.

This is a home game for the Lions. Broncos three and three on the road. Broncos are hot. They've won one, two. They've won six of their last seven, including a loss against Texans. They beat the Chargers last week or in their last game. Yeah, last week or in their last game yeah last week um but I feel like

this is going to be a game where it's a get right game for the Lions uh so I'm going to go with I don't think that they'll cover though so I'm going to go Lions by three yeah no you know I think I agree brother I think I agree I think uh I got the I got the exactly what you know, I think I agree, brother. I think I agree. I think I got the – I got exactly what you just said. I think it's like a get-right game for the Lions. You know, they need to wake up, and I think this is a good opportunity against, like you said, a team very hot that they can beat, and I think they will. And, yeah, I got them by – I got them by seven.

I got them by a touchdown. I got them by a touchdown. And, again, you know, this is a game they really gotta you know they gotta they gotta wake up man i mean getting you know kind of embarrassed by the bears last week i mean we're coming up on playoffs already you know you gotta gotta prove yourselves and i think this is a good game to do so against another team that's it should be a good game it should be a good game i think out of all three of them this is probably the one that uh safe to say should be good yeah and my only problem obviously is still gonna be the lions defense it's the lions defense so iffy and against the broncos offense that sure has kind of found their stride a little bit but

I mean they they're not really a team that's going to put up 30 on you no um so I think this might be more of a favorable matchup for the Lions but I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos started going all out on them uh CJ, what are your thoughts? This is a true toss-up game for me because you are both right. It is a get-right game for the Lions. However, the Broncos, you just said they won six out of their last seven. They're 7-6 right now, by the way.

And they are one game behind Kansas City, who's on a two-game losing skid. And the Chiefs are looking vulnerable. And the Broncos and that division are smelling blood in the water. They're circling Kansas City. The division is within striking distance. Meanwhile, if you're the Lions, you're going to have to start playing defense here because the Vikings are two games back and they are right on your tail. And the Lions, I mean, we said it's a get right game because they're struggling.

Like pieces are starting to fall off. And I said this last podcast, this might be a case of maybe they peaked too early. And you have to right the ship fast and at the end of the day both these guys have a lot to play for and let's be honest with ourselves it's really going to come down to who wants it more and if i had to guess, I'm leaning Detroit because Denver smells blood in the water, but Detroit's in panic mode right now. And I think Detroit's going to win. It's going to be a good game. I would imagine it's going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of like 27 to 23, 27, 20.

I could see that. I don't know now, but all this good stuff that you said about Denver. Yeah. Denver now, though. Yeah. I'm with you there. You're right. see that i feel i don't know now but all this good stuff that you said about denver yeah way denver now though yeah i'm with you there because you're right they are smelling blood kansas city is cold right now granted kansas city's playing new england this week we'll get to that in a second and i mean who knows kansas city could struggle against new england they struggled the last two weeks now against teams that they should be handling their business with. Hold on.

They lost to the Broncos a few weeks ago, too. Yeah, they lost back-to-back to the Packers and the Bills. They've already lost to the Broncos once. They beat the Broncos, but that was a slugfest in itself. They only won 19 to eight and the Broncos game, they only put up nine points or the second Broncos game. They only put up nine points. Um, so yeah, the Broncos, I are definitely going to put up a fight.

Uh, I, I'm still going to go with lines by three though, because I just don't see the lines covering in this for some reason just something about it i don't see it well uh step aside for a quick break coming up next we'll go over the 1 p.m slate you're listening to the fumble ruski podcast here's edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet edelman comes down with a football they're saying it's a catch it's a catch This is what takes the side line! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins!

Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! You're listening to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. Chris Kostich, CJ Medeiros, and special guest Christian Clark. To the one o'clock slate. We'll start with Chiefs Patriots. This game was so bad that it got flexed out of the Monday night slot that it was originally supposed to be in weeks ago weeks ago that this happened

and Chiefs by eight I'm going to go Chiefs but I don't see it by eight the way that they've been struggling this is obviously another one of those get right games that we were just saying for the Lions this is going to be a get-right game for the Chiefs. Maybe we see them win by 10.

Maybe we see them win by 14. The Patriots' defense has been stepping up to the plate a little bit. Granted, they did have a bit of a second-half collapse last Thursday night against the Steelers. But in terms of the way that they have held teams to very, very, very minimal points, I could see the same thing happening against a very vulnerable Chiefs offense and how abysmal those receivers are.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Bill, Billy, Billy, Billy, Bill boy. You know, I think what he, you know, I got the Chiefs too, just before I kind of touch up on what I'm about to say. I got the Chiefs too. I do think it's going to be a close game. Not just because the Chiefs have been struggling, but because even with rosters, we shouldn't be hanging with a team like Kansas City with we always do I mean I think back to I always you know within the since since the Brady days right I think of

that that one game with Brian Hoyer where we were you know we want to talk about questionable calls uh Mr. Mahomes uh we were a questionable call away from beating them with Brian Hoyer right you know so I don't know i got a game kind of like that like you said the defense the patriots defense has been playing pretty pretty dang well dude without one of it and i mean if christian gonzalez is already looking like another one of the best players on our defense so we're missing a couple of our best players on defense but we have been playing as good as we have been and like you said that the chiefs the chiefs receivers haven't been doing too great mahomes hasn't been doing too

great man i mean it's i think it's gonna be close but i mean i i am still taking the chiefs but i We're looking like 24-17, 24-14. Yeah, I was going to say, I think I have the Patriots covering in this one because just eights, yeah, it's a good line, but I feel like just the way that both teams have been playing, like we were saying, it seems like it's going to be more like a seven, maybe even a four-point game. It's probably going to end up being a one-score game regardless. Yeah.

CJ, what do you got? New England's going to be very angry playing into this game because you're the first team along Kansas City to be flexed out of primetime. And I don't think a lot of people realize just how monumental that is. Because the Chiefs have the NFL's Golden Boy and Patrick Mahomes. And they have legions of obnoxious Taylor Swift fans with them, too. And you got this dog and pony show flexed out of primetime.

That almost takes effort. And you know, they're going to be angry. They're disrespected. They're going to be out playing like that. However, you could throw a little bit of water on the fire with the rumors from people like Tom Curran and Dan Graziano that Bill Belichick might be done. That team's in chaos. And I don't know if they're going to be able to focus that much. But then again, the Chiefs have their own worries. Like you mentioned, their legion of butter-fingered and undisciplined wide receivers.

Honestly, it's going to be an ugly game. There's no way around it. But I do believe it is in Arrowhead, so the Chiefs should win. But the Pats' defense is pretty good. Actually, it is in Arrowhead. So the chief should win, but I, but the Pat's defense is pretty good. Actually it's in new England. Right. Yeah.

Oh, well, yeah. So that, Ooh, that might be tough. That being said, I'm going to roll the dice and say Kansas city wins,

but it's going to be ugly. Once again, it's going to be ugly once again. It's going to be like 20-17. And the Chiefs are currently 4-2 on the road. I'll read you off their road games so far. At Jaguars, week two, they won 17-9. Week four, at the Jets, that Sunday night football bullshit, 23-20. At Vikings, 27-20, they won.

Then they lose to the Broncos, 24-9. They beat the Raiders on the road, 31-17. That was like their only – that's been their only road game that they've won by double digits. And then you have their last road game was against the Packers and they lost 27 to 19. So in terms of the way that they've been performing on the road has not been very pretty at all.

And even that the game against the Raiders, they were down, I think they were down 14, right? They're down 14 and nothing. And they finally stormed back in the second half, but they were dead for a whole half of football in that game. So I think this could potentially be more of a toss-up than people may think,

but still lean Chiefs on this. Yeah, for sure. Next game on the slot, Bears-Browns. Joe Flacco has officially been named the starter the rest of the there's the rest of the way by kevin stephansky signed a one-year deal and i don't know if you guys saw the contract but it's very very incentive based 75 000 per win uh for the rest of the four games. And he also gets a bonus if they make the playoffs.

And I think for anyone that's in Baltimore right now, they do not want to see Joe Flacco in the playoffs. Yeah, dude. That is, if Tuck was here right now, that is Tuck's doomsday scenario.

Christian, Tuck's one of the guys on the pod who's a Ravens fan, in case you weren't aware, or for anyone else that wasn't aware. But back to the Browns Bears. It's in Cleveland. And Joe Flacco also is 10-2 when playing in Cleveland as well. Browns are 6-1 at home. Bears are 2-5 on the road. Give me the Browns by 10. But with caution.

With caution. Because the Bears defense has been stepping up to the plate a lot. That's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah, man, I think I agree. I got the Browns. I got them by two scores because, I mean, not to sound like a hater here,

but it's not very often that Justin Fields has two good performances in a row. I know he did it earlier in the year, but I know the injury might have kind of extinguished his little hot streak he had going on. But I don't think he's going to do that again against a very good Browns defenseman. And Joe Flacco, dude, Joe Flacco is, flacco is dude he might be you know it's been a while but i mean like you were saying you know he's you know he's definitely one of those later season and playoff quarterbacks so i mean when when he needs to win those games he's gonna win them for you and it's a good it's a it's a good browns team, man. I mean, even they're, you know, obviously without Chubb and stuff like that,

they are lacking a very, you know, big hole on offense there. They got a big hole on offense there. But, I mean, Joe Flacco, he loves his guy, David Njoku. I mean, you know, he's – I got the – I got the Brownies. I got the Brownies kicking the Bears in the rear end pretty good cj what do you got i also have one more hypothetical for for after uh on paper the bears should win but well let's break it down joe flacco's come out of nowhere and has established that even as a game manager he's no laughing matter the Browns still have an elite defense and you're in Cleveland and I did think that uh you guys once

again brought up a very good point how Herbert I mean not Herbert uh Fields is very Justin Fields is very hot and cold about how we can rarely string two good performances together. So I'm leaning towards the Browns and I don't think it's going to be the prettiest game, but I do think it's going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of like 1713. I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. But here's a little hypothetical for you guys, since we're on the topic of the Browns. With Kevin Stefanski, maybe he probably won't.

Maybe he gets coach of the year. Just maybe. Now hear me out. The Browns are currently 8-5. They're in a playoff spot right now. all of the injuries that they've had. Deshaun Watson out for the year. Nick Chubb out early on in the year on top of all thedown of injuries on this Cleveland squad. And they've somehow still been able to come away with wins such as beating the Jaguars. They beat the Ravens in a comeback win. No less.

Maybe he gets it. Maybe he gets that coach of the year. I don't know. Very deserving. Very, very deserving very very deserving very deserving especially considering that they're still sniffing at they're in the playoff picture right now most likely will probably be in the playoffs if they continue to play the way that they've been playing move on to we'll move on to the next game, though. Buccaneers and Packers. Lions at Packers by three and a half.

We don't really have to talk about this one too much, but I got Green Bay by seven. It's not going to be the greatest game in the world, but yeah, you got the Buccaneers that are still fighting for an NFC South spot. Green Bay is fighting for a seven seed, essentially. But it's not going to be 21-17. Yeah.

CJ? I'm going to buck the trend, and I'm going to take Tampa probably like 23-20. And why? Because the Bucs are bucks are once again very hungry and a lot of it has to do with baker mayfield because you gotta remember baker wants to prove that he can be the guy to himself into this team he has to prove that he's not just a stopgap quarterback because uh justin i mean uh jordan love has an extension so he's at least got another year to be kicked around. Herber, why do I keep saying Justin? I'm sorry.

Sorry, kids. I'm having a Rex Ryan moment. But all jokes aside, you look at Mayfield, right? And you realize he's fighting for his career. And the Bucs are a team that want to go to the playoffs. And not just as a seven seed, but as the division leader, so give me the Bucs. I like it. I can roll

with that. Next game, it's going to be another ugly one. Texans-Titans. Titans coming off a huge comeback victory against Miami. Granted, it's not going to be necessarily enough to get them into the playoffs. But hold the phone. It's in Tennessee. Titans are 4-2 at home.

Texans are 2-4 on the road. Potentially no CJ Stroud. Actually, I think I just saw he's out. Is he officially out? I think I just saw he's out. Yep, I just got a notification. Yep, let's see. I saw, yeah, CJ Stroud and Nico Collins both not practicing today

and not playing Sunday versus the Titans. Well, there you go. And that was going to be the next thing I was going to say. Most likely no Nico Collins. Now it is official. No Nico Collins. Also got injuries such as Will Anderson being hurt. Noah Brown's Noah Brown was limited in Thursday's

practice. Malik Collins, Henry 2-0-2-0 however you want to say his name. Shaq Mason, George Fant. There is injuries up the arse for Houston right now. This could really be a toss-up. Tennessee's favored in this game as well by – Tennessee's favored by four, surprisingly.

I'm going to go Tennessee by three. Yeah, I agree. um i'm gonna go tennessee by three yeah you know i i agree i think uh i'm taking tennessee because the uh obviously the injuries and stuff which kind of stink because you know it's really extinguished a red hot texans team um but yep i think and also you gotta we might we might get a deandre hopkins revenge game especially off you know, he's kind of been on a roll. Will Levis really likes him, obviously. So, yeah, I got Titans in a not-so-pretty game. I'm going to go 17-14.

CJ? Once again, we got ourselves another ugly game. And it seems like a lot of the teams this year just, no matter who it is, just cannot win the war of attrition. Yeah. I'm not going to beat around the bush here. The Texans are just too injured to compete. And if you think Davis Mills is going to have a miracle run,

I'm going to say no that being said yeah I gotta take the Titans here because at least I know Will Levis can be somewhat competent and they have Derrick Henry and DeAndre Hopkins put that all together and you take a hammer to Houston's hopes here with all the injuries and the fact that the Titans are looking to play spoiler, I'm going to take the Titans probably somewhere in the ballpark of like, I don't know, like 21 to like 10, 13, something like that. I like that. Moving on.

Giants, Saints, the next two on this list. I really don't want to spend that much time. They're just awful games. Or actually, I just skipped over a game. Well, Giants, Saints. There's actually three more games. But Giants, Saints, Saints by five and a half. Give me the Giants. Give me Tommy DeVito.

Tommy Cutlets, baby. Give me Tommy Cutlets. Tommy's going to go for 220, two tutties. Give me 21-17 Giants. I think I'm going to agree with you there. I'm thinking like 21-17. Yeah'm going to agree with you there. I'm thinking like 21, 21, 21, 17. Yeah, I'll agree with you there. Yeah, 21, 17, Tommy Cudlitz, baby.

You know. Don't got much else to say on that one. Another team that just came off of a huge Monday Night Comeback win as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You see, Tommy Cudllets will not be denied his victory. The Saints, they're dead in the water. That used Derek Carr ought to be impounded right now.

So give me Tommy Cutlets and company 21, you know what, 10. I don't see the Saints doing anything. I really don't. You know what? I'll go on the 21-10 hype train. I'll go on that as well. Tommy Connett's for the win. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Also, is it Darren Waller set to come

back from IR soon? Yeah, I know they took him off the IR. Not by this game, but soon, So watch out. Well, Darren Waller, limited participant in practice yesterday. Rending upward. We'll see. But he's still listed on IR.

So, I mean, there's still two games. Oh, is it that window, though? Is he, like, technically off the IR, but there's that 21-day practice window? That could be what it is. I'm not sure. I think that's what it is. Probably is. Next game on the slate, Jets-Dolphins.

I'm going to see this as a get-right game for the Dolphins. Lions at 9.5. Give me Dolphins by 14. I'm going Dol good dolphins by 10 and i think it's just because you know the jets the jets defense most of the time this year has been you know you expect them even with as serviceable or as good as their defense is you don't really expect them to hang in there and kind of hold down some of the more high-powered offense but um i know tyree kill might not even play this weekend so that's a good hit that's a pretty big hit i mean we saw how that effect i mean we saw how that affected the game last on

monday um when he left the game i mean it wasn't i mean not like it was a game to like write home about anyways but like that definitely impacted their ability to score the ball. So, yeah, I'm going to go Dolphins. Like you said, get right game. But, you know, I don't think, you know, they're not dropping anything crazy. I'm thinking 24-14. As far as I go, if you have Tyreek Hill, you're shooing for victory. If not, I still think you're going to win, but it's going to be a lot uglier.

However, I am erring on the fact that on the side of caution, I think Tyreek Hill will end up playing because i think the dolphins are going to do what new england used to do whenever we have a guy like edelman or gronk that was banged up we'd play them but they would just be there as a decoy to draw coverage which is i think we'll do a tyree kill because even if he's banged up you have to respect him you're gonna have to double team him and even if he's just there as a decoy he's there he's just there to draw coverage yeah so even still i think that the dog and the jets with the good defense i'd say the miami dolphins will probably win some of the neighborhood of probably 10 or 11 up 14 you know no no 14 give no, no. 14. Give me a dolphins, 27,

13. Um, status on Tyree killed, did not practice today. So that is, that literally doesn't mean anything. How many guys, but to go with your point, CJ about at least having him as a decoy.

That's kind of what I was saying on Tuesday when we were talking about the, uh, Miami Tennessee game and how that whole drive where the Dolphins were just trying to kill clock, that second-to-last drive that they had prior to the Titans going back down the field and taking the lead, Dolphins didn't have Tyreek in for the entirety of that drive. And like you said, at least throw him in as a decoy. Make the defense think because the Titans were just selling out on the run.

They at least have Tyreek in to make you think about what the other guys are going to do, you know? Yeah. And on top of that, the Dolphins just, whenever Tyreek's not in, the Dolphins just are a very different team in terms of play calling or their play calling is very much different when he's not in in general. Last game in the 1 o'clock slate, Falcons-Panthers. All right, we're all going to stay at 3, 2, 1, Falcons.

Falcons. All right, we'll take a quick break. I don't see Carolina winning again this season. No, I don't either. No. We'll take a quick break on that. No, when we come back, we'll go through the 4 o'clock slate and the primetime games.

You're listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. We'll be right back. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's caught! To Gates! Side-line! Touchdown! Unbelievable!

Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Chris Kostich, CJ Medeiros, Christian Clark, the Fumble Rooski Podcast. We go to the 4 o'clock and primetime games, but first, some breaking news. This is kind of just going hand-in-hand with Brandon Staley getting fired and Tom Telesco getting fired. Chargers have named Giff Smith interim head coach and JoJo Wooden as interim GM.

Good for them. It won't change anything. Won't change anything. First game on the 4 o'clock slate, kicking off at 4.05. It's the Rams and the Commanders. The Rams coming off of the overtime loss against the Ravens. Give me the Rams by 10. Yeah, I'm going about 10 too. I'm going 31-21 Rams.

You know, that's all I got on that one. Honestly, I'd say the Rams put up 35. At least 35. Because the last three games, the Commanders. They've been pretty hot. Last four games, really. Last four games, Seahawks, they've let up 29 points. The Giants, they let up 31.

Cowboys, they let up 45. Dolphins, they've let up 45. So wouldn't be surprised if we see the Rams put up 35 plus. True. When it comes to talent on the roster, the Rams are playing with house money. You know, you got Puka Nakua, Cooper Cup, and the emerging Kyron Williams. The Rams, I will probably wager, would put up somewhere in the neighborhood of 38, 35. And the commanders, your ceiling is like 20.

And even still, that's like your absolute ceiling. You're probably going to get somewhere like 17. Yeah, which is crazy because they got some pretty damn good weapons on offense there. But something isn't working, and I think it might be a coaching thing. Not that Howell's great, but he at least can get you some yardage. I think Howell is definitely the guy for Washington,

but like you said, it's definitely a coaching thing. Ron Rivera is... He knows that he's done after the season. They're definitely getting rid of him at the end. And they also fired... What's his face? God, who did Washington just fire?

I can't think of his name. One of their coordinators? Yeah, it was one of the coordinators. Not offensive though. No, it was the defensive coordinator. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they elevate EB to head coach. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they elevate EB to head coach. I mean, if I were them.

We'll leave it at that. Next game, also kicking off at 4.05, 49ers and Cardinals. 49ers line is at 12. Ah, geez. I mean, I love having Kyler Murray back. He's fun to watch. But Kyler Murray is not going to beat the 49ers in this defense. Give me the hot take. Give me the 49ers by 21.

Yeah, man, I'm going, I'm going 38. We'll go 38, 10. I'm going the Niners. I mean, they're just by far, if you listen to my podcast, by far the best team in football. The only team that I 100% buy. Yeah, no, they're going to easy work, easy work with this Cardinals team, any team for that matter. Hmm. easy work with this Cardinals team, any team for that matter. Yeah, honestly, I think Christian hit the nail on the head. That's what I'm going with.

And I know these division games are supposed to be tough, but this rivalry, this game is going to be like a hammer and a nail. So, once again, give me the Niners by that margin. So, with that, we move on america's game of the week cowboys and bills if you were to look at this game after the bills lost the broncos this is going to be a muck fest an absolute muck fest but now the way that the bills are playing recently this could potentially be a closer game and i don't know why but the bills are playing recently, this could potentially be a closer game. And I don't know why, but the bills are favored by two and a half. The bills are favored by two and a half.

Interesting. Yeah. Not sure if I agree, but give me the Cowboys by three. They're just such a hot team right now. Dak's playing at an MVP level. It's in Buffalo, too, keep in mind. Weather is supposed to be about 36 degrees-ish, probably colder.

Bills are pretty solid at home, 5-2. The Cowboys, all three of their losses have been on the road. So another thing to keep in mind. But give me the Cowboys by three. Okay. I don't know if this is my hater glasses. I hate the Dallas Cowboys. And I also kind of want to throw a curveball

because I feel like we've been agreeing on every single one of our picks. I'm going to go with the Bills. I'm going to go with the Bills I'm going to go with the bills. I think it's going to be very close. I do think, like you just said, whether, you know, it being in Buffalo is going to play a factor. And I mean, they did, they started off playing very well against the chiefs. They kind of cooled off in that second half, you know, they had the certain mistake that, you know.

But, yeah, I got the Bills, man. I got the Bills. I got the Bills. I got the Bills by three. I got the Bills, well, 27-24. I think their defense is going to step up, too. Yeah, and it's not like I'm scoffing at the Bills or anything. The Bills have played, especially the offense, defense is going to step up too. Yeah. And it's not like, it's not like I'm scoffing at the bills or anything.

The bills have played, especially the offense has played a lot better since Ken Dorsey has left. Surprisingly, you know, they kind of made him seem like the scapegoat and CNC is the scapegoat after all. Yep. Well, well,

well, it looks like I get to be tiebreaker. This could go either way because the Cowboys are a dome team. They're going to be playing in the elements. However, these past few years, the Bills have been one of the worst teams when playing in the elements, which is weird because they're from Buffalo. But, oh, well. Weird.

Very weird. Yeah. And Josh Allen has a big arm, but, man, can he throw a mean interception. And when you have ball hawks like Stephon Gilmore, Daron Bland, and Trayvon Diggs, I just... And also, what do the Bills have outside Stephon Diggs? Not much, which is why I am leaning. You know, not even lean. To put it in a polling sense, we're in tilt territory.

I am tilting towards the Dallas Cowboys. However, their high-flying offense will be dampened probably by the elements. So I'm expecting a game that would probably end up being 24-23. I like it. I like it. I like it too. Sunday Night Football, Ravens-Jaguars. Ravens by three and a half. This is in Jacksonville.

Jaguars haven't been playing as well at home as they probably should be. Ravens have been very good on the road. Ravens are 5-1 on the road. Jaguars 3-4 at home. I'm going to go Ravens by 7. Lamar's been playing really good. That defense is a top-five defense. And you saw the way that Jacksonville played against Cleveland last week.

Kind of got bullied throughout the entirety of it. You still don't really know how good Trevor Lawrence's ankle is. And, Grant, he is off the injury report, but you got to figure that his ankle is probably going to come into play at some point. On top of that, Travis Etienne's beat up. Zay Jones beat up. Christian Kirk's done for the year.

Or he's on IR right now. So give me the Ravens. Yeah. Christian Kirk's done for the year or he's on IR right now. So give me the Ravens. Yeah. Every point you just said is why the Ravens should win. But give me the Jags. Give me the Jags. 24-21 upset.

I'm going, you know, reasons. I'm a big Trevor Lawrence guy. But at the same time, you know, I think this is a this is a get right game for them they've been you know they've been kind of struggling but they show life i mean they they showed some life last week just a little too late um but i i do i think you know this is a big get this is a get right game for them it's a big game for them um and you know i know they're banged up and stuff like that. Like you just

said, starting with literally their best players on their entire team. But yeah, give me 24-21. Make it interesting. The Ravens are starting to get a little banged up with injuries, but then again, Trevor Lawrence is playing through an ankle injury, and we saw it last week.

Oh, yeah. In Jacksonville, on paper, the Ravens should win, but I think it's going to be a hard-fought game. They do win, but not by the margin you'd expect. I would say they roll out of TIAA Bank Stadium with the dub 27-20. Monday Night Football. This game got flexed in

Spado in the place of where the Chiefs and the Patriots were supposed to be. And Seahawks at home. Eagles are favored by three. Here's a stat for you guys. Teams the week after playing the 49ers are 111 in that ensuing game. Seahawks played the 49ers last week.

Give me the Eagles. Yeah. Just off of that stat alone. Yeah, dude. That is a good stat to know um i do i got the eagles too again you could you could look at this as a get right game for them they got blown out i mean they got they lost to dallas pretty good they got blown out by the 49ers the week prior they they need a win here or you know or we might be talking fraud alert.

But they have way too good of a roster for that to be the case. And, yeah, like you said, I think the Seahawks hang in there. I think the Seahawks, I mean – But then again, are they running with Locke this week again? What's going on with Geno? Oh, I'm pretty sure Geno should be good. Is he going to be – yeah? I forgot all about that. Geno Smith limited in practice yesterday.

Okay. No reports today, but, you know, he also got injuries to, like, Leonard Williams, Jaron Reed, Jamal Adams. I don't care about Jamal Adams, though. He's a bum. Yeah. Kenneth Walker's kind of been hurt, like, every other week, too, right? Yeah.

Kenneth Walker's good to go, though. He played last, right? Yeah, Kenneth Walker's good to go though. He played last week. He did. He was pretty – yeah, okay. Yeah, it doesn't – you know, the injuries or, you know, whoever is playing quarterback, I don't think that changes, you know, my pick. I'm going Eagles. I'm going Eagles.

31-20. Yeah, I think the Seahawks are still going to Put up points I'm not saying it's going to be a blowout I think it'll be more of a one score game Than a two score game Than what you just put out Just because that Eagles secondary Is very suspect

And the way The Seahawks can definitely put up points You saw the way that they put up numbers on the Cowboys defense. True. True. But with that being said, I'm still going to go Eagles regardless. I'd throw a couple more points if Gino plays. I'd throw a couple more points to their score.

CJ, your pick for the final game of the slate. It's got to be Philly. You know, you're reeling. This is, once again, another get-right game. Give me Philly. I mean, this is going to be – there's going to be some fireworks, but Philly has a little more firepower behind them. I would say they take this 34-24.

However, this prediction comes with a warning. If Philly loses this game, then it might be over. Then this might be the time where you can't stop the bleeding

and the wheels come off. Yeah, that is all. Nice. Any final thoughts for this slate before we get into our trivia segment? Nope. All right. Trivia.

You guys are going to name me the top five, Nope. There are a lot of guys that are tied for the fit spot. So if you're saying a name that's in that fit spot or tied for that fit spot, I won't – that's going to count. So, Christian, the way that we do this, we kind of just alternate back and forth, or you and CJ will alternate back and forth. Right pick, wrong pick, doesn't matter. And just best of three at that point. We do. Christian, we'll start with you.

McCaffrey. He's number two, 17 touchdowns. If it's me, then I would assume Tyreek. Yeah, Tyreek's number three with 12. That would have been my next guess. AJ Brown? AJ Brown is not on the list.

Wow. Okay. Wow. Okay. Ooh. Wow. Okay. What about C.D. Lamb? C.D. Lamb is not on the list. Wow.

Wow. What goofy... Wow. C.D. Lamb is like barely just off the list. He's at nine. Everyone in the top five is in double digits. D.D. Lamb is like barely just off the list. He's at nine. Everyone in the top five is in double digits. Okay. Sam Laporta.

Not Laporta. No. Oh, man. Laporta definitely does not have enough you know I must have thought that he had like I don't know he had a couple games where he had like three touchdowns or some shit so yeah it was definitely

I think I have one I'll go roll the dice on this what about Raheem Mostert from Miami because he's a dual threat Raheem Mostert's number one he's a dual threat. Yeah, yeah. Raheem Mostert's number one. He's had 18 touchdowns this year. That's bananas, dude.

Crap. I'm trying to think. This is dressing me up. So CJ's at one, or I mean CJ's at two, Christian's at one. Okay. We got... Let's go. Maybe because... Kyron Williams. Kyron Williams. He's in there.

He's one of the many players that have 10 touchdowns. 10 touchdowns. So, two to two. What about – so, you said it's not including passing. So, I mean, obviously, no. Yeah, no. Well, there is a couple quarterbacks, but we're not counting them.

Yeah, not counting passing. Because I was – because I don't know. My brain was working. Oh, so I have him in fantasy, so I'm going to take a guess here. What about Derrick Henry? Derrick Henry. Some games of late where he's been piling them up. Yep, Derrick Henry is one of those guys that is tied for fifth with 10 touchdowns.

So we're talking, okay. So there's quarterbacks on the list that haven't, but, but we're not counting. So we're talking quarterbacks, rushing touchdowns. There's gotta be a quarterback in the Russian touchdown, right? There's two of them. Well, oh yeah. Jalen hurts. Touch, Oh yeah. Uh,

Jalen hurts. Touch push, baby. Yep. He's, he's at 12 rushing touchdowns. I think the other one's obvious. I mean,

yeah, I would think it's Josh Allen, right? Yeah. He's their whole ground game. Yeah, dude. For real.

I mean, James cook is there, like they're receiving back and stuff, but that's, that's it. He's a receiver. Yeah. Yeah. He's receiving back. Yeah. Yeah, he's there.

Yeah, but Josh Allen's there running back. So, Christian, you're up. Oh, okay. So, is there – what is there? Is there one more? Well, there's one, two, three one two three four five six more players uh cj's at four you're at three okay um let's see let's see um i'm gonna go with a dude that's been absolutely on fire the past few games

with multiple touches. Devo Samuel? No, he's also just barely off the list. That was mine. That was going to be mine. Yeah. Dang it. He's tied with CD at nine.

Okay. But if he didn't get injured, he would most likely have more i would think oh yeah for sure that means it's like three or four games right yeah yeah he missed uh yeah like three games hon i have an idea because here's he's one of the guys i have in fantasy is it what about the jags kid uh etn yeah etn is another one that's tied for fifth with 10. Good one. How many guys for fifth are there again? Because we

got to be running out, I would think. Three, four, five, six, seven. There's eight total that are tied for fifth. You guys got most of them basically. Christian, your turn. CJ, you're at five. Christian's at three oh man i gotta pick it up man um

uh let's go There's no tight ends That's for sure No tight ends Okay, no, so not Kelsey Wow I feel like there's like some rando on there. Yeah.

See, I'm kind of thinking that. Yeah. There kind of is a rando. Not necessarily a big rando, but like random enough where he probably wouldn't consider him as like a top 10 guy in the league. Probably like a backup or something. I wouldn't consider him as like a top 10 guy in the league. Probably like a backup or something. I want to consider him a backup. Okay. Uh,

uh, Oh man, this is tough. This is tough. Uh, dang man. I had one. I wanted to say, but, um, there's one that i can think of maybe but

yeah maybe not this year oh man i'm a rock wit oh man man man man ah what a afc guys yeah okay oh Man, man, man. What are AFC guys? Yeah. AFC? Oh. I have a thought, but. There's a couple AFC guys that you guys are missing, but mostly AFC.

Mostly AFC guys. Okay. Whenever you're ready, because I think I got one. Yeah, dude. I got a Man we'll rock with Just say it No tight ends

AFC Alright yeah no I'm holding y'all up I'm sorry Let's go with – Stephon Diggs. Not Stephon Diggs. Yeah. He has not scored many touchdowns. He's got eight, though, so it wasn't a terrible guess. He's got eight.

It's like right outside of it. CJ, this is for the win. Oh. Should have taken longer. I have a thought. I have a thought. Only because the Broncos have been heating up, and I want to say Cortland Sutton.

It's like random, but he would – seems like he might fit the bill. Not that random after all. Cortland Sutton is on No way I only know this because I have him in a few fantasy leagues I have him in a different one and he's been cooking

I love Cortland Sutton I love him so much He's such a dog And I'd like to thank my fantasy leagues for helping me with this A couple other notable names that you guys missed. Mike Evans. He's also got 10. And all these were from all the guys.

The guys that you missed were in the tie for fit spot. So you missed Mike Evans. Gus Edwards was the running back that i was referring to wow man times he went off on my bench i should have known and david montgomery oh i wanted to say montgomery ah but then like he was injured for a few games but that was my thought process too oh man i was oh because I was thinking Detroit. I almost said him instead of LaPorta. Damn.

Oh, man. That'll do it for us tonight, Christian. Thank you for joining us. Check out Christ Now. If you're talking about that. For some reason, it left my mind. You're good. Thanks for that. Yeah, yeah. For some reason, it left my mind. No, you're good. Thanks for having me on, boys.

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