The Fumblerooski Podcast - The Mitochondria- Ep 13 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: March 4, 2021

JJ Watt surprises everyone and signs with the Arizona Cardinals and two elite quarterbacks could possibly be leaving their current teams soon. Alex Smith is released from the Washington Football Team just one month removed from winning Comeback Player Of The Year. We discuss all of these topics on episode 13 of The Fumblerooski Podcast.Follow our Instagram @fumblerooski_podcast

Good evening. It is time for the Fumble Roostie podcast by Power 88, Dean Radio. So buckle up. We are in for a wild ride. I am Adam Wright, along with Justin Tucker and Brian Bucker. But first thing is first, we have a special guest, our personal friend, Sean Howe. Sean, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? Of course. My name is Sean Howe. I'm a sophomore at Bridgewater State University. I'm a computer science and math double major, and I'm a huge Miami Dolphins fan. Boo! But welcome to the show.

Oh, get out of here. But welcome to the show. Sean, the Miami Dolphins fan. I pointed this out off camera, but three of the four people on this call right now on in this episode are all in the afc east can we just point that out and all of us are in the afc patriots fan jets fan dolphins fan it's crazy we are all division rivals we hate each other's guts but we also love each other because we're supposed to be friends not really Brian's mom pays me and I don't know Sean's mom but I just feel bad for him all right here we go so all right now guys guys it's been a

crazy offseason and it's barely even started can we all agree on that it's been an unbelievable offseason and free agency hasn't even started yet still weeks away it has been a wild ride so far um but so in the embodiment of that is the news that just broke this past monday in that jj watt he signs with the arizona cardinals on a two-year, $31 million deal. He joins former teammate DeAndre Hopkins. He was heavily rumored with other teams, including Buffalo, Tennessee, Green Bay, Cleveland, all fits that we thought would make the most sense for him. But he says, no.

Source, me. We are going, I am going to Arizona. I wasn't even rumored here, but I don't give a damn. We're going here. All right? All right. Now, guys, the question I'm going to ask you all, and I know, Justin, you have some strong feelings about this.

So what do we make of this move by J.J. Watt going to the Arizona Cardinals? I know, Justin, you've been going on about this. Justin, the floor is yours. Go on. Before I get started on my rant, can I just say that tweet he tweeted out about the mitochondria? Hilarious. I will give him his credit. But listen here, J.J. First off, the name. I like it. Justin. Justin. Let's talk. You chose the wrong team, Bucko. The Ravens were right there. Green Bay was right there. Screw Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Buffalo was right there. You chose Arizona. Now, if you chose them strictly because you said screw Justin Tucker, I'd respect it. Just off rip. I respect it it but you didn't you chose

I assume you chose them because of DeAndre Hopkins the the talent around them and what you believe that they could be because let's face facts they weren't even a playoff team last year so they underperformed and underachieved now if you're telling me it's about the money go ahead and get your money two years 34 31 million 23 million guaranteed I can't be mad at that. That's more money than most people will make in their lives. I understand. But if you're telling me you want to win a Super Bowl, there are like five other teams you could have went to, specifically my team or Green Bay. That's the only teams you're allowed to go to. But you choose Arizona? Ugh.

Ugh. Not happy. First of all, not only did he choose the wrong team, he chose the wrong bird. Ugh. Ravens Nation could have used somebody like you. Justin. JJ didn't say it, but I'll say it. Screw Justin Tucker. I'll say it for him.

I'll say it without him. matter he's going to a non-playoff team to hopefully relive the glory days and maybe just maybe make the playoffs to get bounced by like the bucks or the packers all right now brian okay so this is what i say here i say this is an interesting move by jj wong because this wasn't even a team that was listed as one of his teams he wanted to go to um i thought jj would sign with a team like that best suits him so like the bills who are like who have like a past question and oliver i thought he would be good with him the packers with cesare smith browns with uh garrett and or or the steelers with his brother but it also makes sense that he did sign with arizona because he wanted i guess reunite with deontay hopkins on that team and that offense to me is already set for a playoff run

and that defense is it was a little shaky last year but the signing of jj makes sense because i think they also lost chandler jones mid-season if you have him and chandler jones lined up on that line oh best believe that quarterback's going to be scrambling Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. That's all I've got to say, but I think JJ made the right move.

Yes, I'm sure he said, screw Justin Tucker and all the other teams that he thought that we were going to go to, but I think he picked the right bird. I mean, what's it say? The wrong bird. No, I like him

in red and white and black. I don't like him in black. No, no, no. Go ahead, Sean. Alright, boys. Boys. Alright, so this is... I think we can all stand in agreement and say this surprised all of us, this move, in that we thought he was going to go to Buffalo, Tennessee.

Justin thought Green Bay. That made a lot of sense. I think a lot of us thought that one. There was some Cleveland. I didn't like that one, but it was kind of a fit. It was at least kind of a fit. We all thought like possibly. No but it was kind of a fit. It was at least kind of a fit. We all thought possibly. You're just saying next year

they're division rivals, but come on. We know damn well. Cleveland could be a really good playoff team. You saw how far they went. They could easily beat the Chiefs. All right. That being said, I think the Cardinals do make some sense.

He joins his former teammate DeAndre Hopkins, who has also traded there this past – last offseason before. And that was a big shocker to all of us back then. point he's lined up opposite side of chandler jones and that duo can make could wreak havoc on the entire um nfc uh nfc west so this could be this could is all causes creates i mean it makes it makes some sense um i don't see why he should i i don't know he said he wanted to go and obviously the money had obviously the money had something to do with it i mean he's he's guaranteed what is it 23 million yeah i mean that so that's a lot and two two year 31 million dollar deal especially at his age and how he's kind of starting to break down as his career goes on. That was a surprise to me. I mean, it makes sense that he chose the guaranteed money because he's starting to break

down a little bit. I was surprised he didn't choose a Super Bowl contender based on what he was saying before. But I mean, it does make a little bit of sense. But I think overall, this is a very shocking move overall. So that being said, Sean, what are your thoughts on it? How do you feel about J.J. Watt becoming a Cardinal? I mean, when it first came out, it was a little off-putting because no one saw that coming. But when I looked deeper into it, I mean, of their, you know, their record looks bad. They were 8-8. But of those eight losses, five of them came to a one-score game. And the other ones were all two-score games. So what is the edge that they need on the defense to stop those one scores? And maybe JJ Watt was their answer. You know, if they can stop them from getting that final score, they can win those

close games, putting them into the playoffs. I mean, those one score games puts them, you know, what, 13 and three, I think, which puts them into the playoff picture so even if they can win a couple of those i think putting somebody else on the d line would give them a better push and it would be clear that jj watt clearly has faith in kyla murray as he rises through the league and that maybe we could see something come of this new team yeah that's a possibility i think that so this is a team this is a team this past offseason that was a borderline playoff contender. They started off pretty hot in the middle of the reason why I don't – I discourage teams going after running quarterbacks because that becomes the focal point of your game. And once, God forbid, you get a knee injury or something, your career could be screwed up. And best case scenario, you're just screwed up for the season and the team suffers because you're a you have a leg injury and i

think that's so that's just a side thing but that's a that's another um that's another uh part of it is that this team is on the edge of playoff contention this could definitely bring them over over the hump and it remains to be seen. Maybe Super Bowl contention. We'll see how the team does. But it's bust now. It's either playoffs or bust because if they don't make the playoffs, it's going to be a significant cat pit for JJ considering the playoffs now.

They have a good shot. They have a pretty good shot. Even though Kyler was banged up a little bit, he did have – I think he had a shoulder injury too if i wasn't i'm not really sure but a fully healthy kyler murray and maybe like a fully healthy defense because chandler jones didn't ended his season with like i think like a really bad knee injury or fractured leg i don't know what he had and then the linebackers i don't think like isaiah simmons or i think his name was didn't pan out the right way.

So, yes, yeah, that's him, yeah. So there's him. The only one that really stood out in that defense when Chandler Jones went down was probably Boomer Baker. Patrick Peterson was there too, but I don't think he's coming back now after that signing. So they're missing maybe another number one corner that they could probably either draft or invest in who's out there if you sign like a couple of guys like that maybe then that Arizona team is not a bust that Arizona team could possibly go all the way to the conference championship that's a bit of a stretch but it I mean if they want to invest in free agency at that point just bring back Patrick Peterson he's getting old so he doesn't have as much leverage on the team. I think you want to put the younger age, though.

You could use the draft. There's many quarterbacks coming out of that draft. You could get into that younger age, and you can draft a very good corner like Damon Arnett coming out of that draft with Vegas. He was a pretty good investment. There's Kiel Fairley. I think he'll be drafted in the first round, but there's many other players out there. I don't know really who's a free agent in corner, but

they might want to just invest in the offensive line at that point because their offensive line was a little shaky this past year. They could just sign Patrick Peterson back, just take him back. They have all the leverage over him i think that's what we'll do with our first pick draft an offensive line and then draft a corner they should focus on like the mainly the positions

that they need most so they don't need pass register they only need wide receiver they all need quarterback they only running back do you need i think you need to invest a little bit in your line and i mean justin's point it is it's champ it's playoffs or bust for this team because they're investing so much into it so the point still stands they have they have a good setup here so if it's not really it's not that debatable that it's i it's playoffs or bust with this team because they've invested so much they brought they went all in on jj watt last off season they invested in deandre hopkins like how much of a hit would it be if you have your franchise quarterback that you drafted

number one overall a couple years ago you have deandre hopkins that you that you invested in and i mean not the biggest not didn't have to pay the highest price but they still got this big time receiver and then bring in J.J. Watt, and you miss the playoffs in two years in a row, both years with all these players, right? So that would be, it's absolutely playoffs or bust, and possibly Super Bowl or bust in the next coming years, because they're going all in to make this team a Super Bowl contender. I mean, I think that's how it has to be, though. I mean, at this point, you know, where the league has come, I mean, look at Tampa Bay.

They put a lot of money into a bunch of players, and they made a run at it. I mean, I think it's one of those things where you can't play safe and be like, oh, we're going to take this person for so little and take this person for so little and hope things work out. I think it's the time where they have it right. You know, they're an 8-8 team. They could have made the playoffs last year.

They were right there at the end. All they needed was a few more wins and they had a couple close games and i think i mean i don't know if i'd call them a super bowl contender but i definitely think they can make a run for the playoffs just by adding a couple weapons either from the draft like brian was saying or just by pulling in a guy like jj watt yes it's a lot of money but it's a you know it's an investment for them it's a short-term investment but they're hoping to make a run so sean let me ask you this outside of tom brady who they invested in who did they invest a lot of money into this last offseason to go all in no but what i meant was by bringing brady in it brought other people like that wanted to play alongside Tom Brady right so like but like who did they who did they have to pay a lot who did they have to pay a lot of money for

who followed it because I I saw a lot of five million dollar deals one million these like small things it was five I think it was about five million I think it's five yeah no I didn't mean like they paid but I meant like they put a lot of money into Brady with the hopes that it would bring other success with it. Maybe this is the same thing. They're bringing J.J. Watt with the hope that it'll bring other players at a lower value than they might actually normally

go for in the hopes of bringing together a better team. A lot of people want to play. Would you say like a guy who was just released today like Kyle Van Nooy, do you think he could get the attention of coming to Arizona? That's a valid point made. A guy like Kyle Van Nooy might go play there cheaper if he knows that it means he's got a chance at a ring

and he knows that J.J. Watt's standing in front of him, versus if he's going to go play for a team like Miami where he's going to be the star player and, of course, he's going to make more. But players sometimes are willing to sacrifice salary if they know that the guy to their left and right are just as good as them and they're going to make a run. I think that's what we saw with Tom Brady down in Tampa Bay. Think about the amount of weapons that showed up after he finally popped up down there. And look what happened. They won a Super Bowl.

Yeah, that's true. They brought in some solid pieces uh i still think a lot of those pieces they brought in are overrated i think antonio brown i know he's a big name but he's not he well number one he's a psychopath number two he's he's clearly a shell of what he once was he's he's still an effective piece but he certainly wasn't. He was obviously number three on that offense, maybe number four on that offense behind Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Rob Gronkowski.

But I completely understand your point. You bring him in, and he kind of attracts more talent. More players want to play with him. For example, Antonio Brown only played, I think it was for what 1.6 million dollars like a one-year contract and he easily any other team would probably go for a little more but when players are willing to sacrifice to win a super bowl because tom brady's the quarterback you know so is it going to be the same situation where people are going to be willing to sacrifice some of their pay because they know hey i got jj watt in front of me so a i'm going to be the same situation where people are going to be willing to sacrifice some of their pay because they know, hey, I got J.J. Watt in front of me.

So, A, I'm going to be doing less work out here because he's going to be getting sags. And B, you know, I want to make a run at this. And I know he's the type of guy who's going to lead us there, just like people knew Tom Brady would lead them to a Super Bowl. And they were willing to take less money if it meant they would have a chance at a Lombardi trophy. And J.J. Watt, if you see what the speech is he's done with Houston, he wants the win rate. He wants it bad. And he deserves it.

Yeah. Yeah, sure. I just think maybe if he chose a better team than Arizona, you know, Buffalo just went 13-3. Even Tennessee, Green Bay. Man, that team is – Wisconsin. Had one of the best offenses in the league. Their Tennessee, Green Bay. Man, that team is – Wisconsin. They had one of the best offenses in the league.

Their defense was getting better, spotty. That would have plugged in a hole, and they probably – they could have easily went, oh, he screwed this one up. I don't – But maybe he's looking to make more input into the team. It's a possibility. Why would Brady ever leave New England to go play for a team like Tampa Bay, who I believe was – what were they when he went there?

They weren't even a playoff team, were they? No, they weren't a playoff team. So why would Tom Brady go to a team like the Buccaneers? But it's the same thing. He knew he was going to have leverage. I mean, Bruce Herring literally said that he lets Tom Brady pretty much run the show. He just sits back and watches. So if he's going to come out there and say that, who's to say that J.J. Watt isn't just going to run part of the defense and isn't going to have a lot of say?

He wants to win a Super Bowl, but he also wants input. Because Brady's a quarterback and J.J. Watt's a defensive end. Okay, so from a defensive line perspective. J.J. can lead that defense. No matter what the position is, Adam, J.J. Watt's a defensive end. Okay, so it doesn't matter. From a defensive line perspective. J.J. can lead that defense. No matter what the position is, Adam, J.J. can lead that defense. All right? He can't lead that defense to a Super Bowl. Quarterbacks can lead entire teams to a Super Bowl victory.

Do you think the Kansas City Chiefs, without Frank Clark, would still be in championship contention? I wouldn't say Frank Clark. I would say Chris Jones. No. I'm saying, without Frank Clark,

could they still be in Super Bowl contention? Could they still be in the mix? Yes. Yeah, in the mix, yes. Question number two. Without Patrick Mahomes, would they still be in the mix? No. Absolutely not.

That's my point. Hold on. Maybe. That's a huge maybe. No, they're not in the mix without him. Hear me out. Hear me out. There have been times during this season and last season where Patrick Williams has not played, and they've looked pretty, this season and last season, and they look pretty doggone good without him.

Well, right. They were making the playoffs with Alex Smith, but they were, make no mistake, they were never a Super Bowl contender with Alex Smith. I think they're a playoff team, and if you're a playoff team, you do have a chance to make it to the Super Bowl. Well, there's the Kansas City Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes of the world, and there's the Houston Texans in the early 2010s making the playoffs out of the wild card with Brian Hoyer. So there's levels to that. You can make the playoffs. And, I mean, there's been times before, say, like the 9-7 New York Giants with Eli Manning. They went all the way to a Super Bowl and won.

I wonder who they beat. It's a rare occurrence. I wonder who they beat. All right. We're going to – I do. That's beside the point. All right. That's why. We're going to – I do. That's beside the point. All right.

We're going to – but transitioning over. So J.J. Watt has brought some crazy headlines this offseason. But let's transition over to his teammate, Deshaun Watson. He speaks with Houston's new head coach, Culley earlier this past week, and he reiterates that he does not want to play with the Texans, and if he's still on the roster, he's probably going to sit out. So he was asked to be traded months prior, and another notable thing is that he's through contract through 2024,

so that's four years under team control. But nonetheless, he has been rumored ever since he requested a trade with several teams. There's been the Carolina Panthers, Denver, San Francisco, Miami, New York, lots of teams. And I'm pretty sure there's more. You know, we were talking about J.J. Watt and all these destinations, and he wound up going to Arizona. So your guess is as good as mine. And so now, guys, since there's a little bit of a standoff going on here, and it's a crazy, things are getting ugly with this standoff.

Does he actually even get traded this offseason? All right. So, well, I think eventually he will get traded, but it's not looking good. I believe Will Fuller will be gone before Deshaun Watson. I believe most of that team will be gone before Deshaun Watson. I believe most of that team will be gone before Deshaun Watson leaves. I mean, it's gotten to that point. I believe Deshaun Watson says, I'm not playing for this team anymore. I'm done with this team. I don't want to play. And Houston's like, well, you're not going anywhere unless we want you to go. So it's a

tough situation to be in. I believe eventually they'll get it done but as of right now i don't see any movement between the two i think they're steadfast in their ways all right so this is what i have to say um after that jj watt signing i'm sure he would love to get out of houston to be honest um yeah and you already brought the teams adam denver san francisco the jets um miami if i have to say the three teams that can possibly land to sean watson i'm gonna go with obviously my team number one the jets why they're why because of because hear me out let's hear it because of the picks that they have with the two first rounders usually doesn't have any first rounders i don't think they even have a second rounder who knows if they i really don't even know what they have this year in in the draft but they have jets of two first rounders they could easily use that they have a young quarterback in sam john that they could throw in they could

easily do that and it goes the same thing for Miami. That's my number two team. Miami could possibly land him. Here's my number three. My number three is Carolina. Carolina, with that, you got Teddy Bridgewater. Yes, he's been bouncing around a couple of teams. He could get traded out easily. I would say that Carolina could throw all their picks in because I don't think they – yes, they might need a lot on the defensive side,

but on the offensive side, when you look at it, Christian McCaffrey in the backfield, Mike Davis, DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, their tight end, something Thomas, I forgot his first name. He doesn't really stand out, but I think he will. If you have Watts on that offense, I think Carolina could go far, but not far enough to reach the playoffs. But those are teams that I think that can land Watson and Justin White. I don't know why I had that disgusting look, but I think they could go far. Why would Carolina get them if you're saying they're going to –

I think they could get past – They could go far, but they won't make the playoffs. That's not far. They're far, but they won't make the playoffs. That's not far. They're far, but they won't make the playoffs. You're talking about the same guy who thinks he's going to go to the Jets. Let's just put that in perspective. He's beyond reasoning at this point. They can do better.

Far mean by they can do better what they did last year. So, Brian, does he get traded or not? Those are the three teams I think he does get traded to. Yes, I do think he gets traded. This offseason, you think he's – Yes, and I think it's going to be a little bit before the draft, just a little bit. You think later. I know you think later, but I think a little bit before the draft.

It's going to be an ugly standoff, and if Houston is so dysfunctional, they may actually end up waiting until after the draft, and they'll get less of a return for him. So now – so the fact of the matter is Deshaun Watson does not want to play with this team, all right? And that's not a good thing to keep a player on a team when he clearly doesn't want to be there you know the attitude is going to be off he's going to hold out he's going to send the wrong messages to all the other players in the locker room and his his play is going to dip uh he's going to it's going to be a bad look for the organization honestly and if they honestly if they do keep him through this season it'll really be telling of that just how dysfunctional this organization organization really is and like i said if they

were to trade him before the draft that'd be the ideal situation for houston because that's where they could get the most return they could get an action they can get a few first round picks for him they could probably get a couple players for him. I know the Panthers were trying to offer up – there was rumors about Christian McCaffrey, Teddy Bridgewater, and they were getting really, really – they were getting real aggressive towards Matthew Stafford. You can only imagine how aggressive they'll get towards getting Deshaun Watson. And they've been clearing up cap space as well. So watch out for that team.

Denver, that's another team that's been clearing cap space. They want him. San Francisco's a great fit, but they seem less and less likely as they go on. We'll see what happens there. The Jets have the most to offer as brian says but just remember there are the jets uh and miami i actually like that that destination i think that place makes the most sense but that being said will watson get traded this offseason it's just a matter of time and But he will be traded this offseason, whether it's before the draft or during training camp.

It's going to happen. Let's be real. This standoff won't last that much longer. It'll last a while, but it won't go much longer than this offseason. So that being said, so Sean, you're a Miami Dolphins fan, a diehard fan here, and you've been hearing all these rumors. We've been talking about this a little bit off camera.

You have some strong feelings about this. Sean, buddy, the floor is yours. So I think Houston has kind of got their hands tied here. I mean, if a guy's going to tell you he's going to sit, he's going to sit. So I think they're kind of forced to get rid of him and trade him away. And I don't see why you wouldn't send him to Miami. I mean, currently they have no first or second round picks. We have their first round pick as of a trade from, I think, either,

I think it was two seasons ago. A year ago. We have a third pick in the first round. They would be foolish not to take that with a young quarterback such as Tua in trade for Deshaun Watson. In a team like Miami, Deshaun's looking at it going, they were on the cusp of the playoffs last year. All we're missing really is a quarterback. So with the quarterback who's got experience and knows what he's doing, mixed with the team that Miami already has and the strong defense Miami already has, that could be a Super Bowl contending

team. And this could be the one run that Miami gets. And I don't see why he would want to go to the Jets or any of those other teams that are going to take a few years to develop. Deshaun Watson's already said he's lost too many years down in Houston. So why would he waste any more? See, this is what I have for here. I think for Miami's case, yes, if you trade away your first round pick for Watson, you're going to be missing out on maybe a possible number one receiver. I think Devontae Parker could be a possible number – is like a solid two. Adam thinks he's number one, but I think he's a solid two.

You guys do have free agency. You guys could go out and maybe sign like Kenny Galladay or something like that, Curtis Samuel, maybe have like a nice nice little one-two combo right there but I like I I obviously to be honest I as a Jets fan he he might he will probably do well in Miami but I would obviously I would love to see him in New York I don't know why he wants to go to New York I'm surprised when I saw that but I guess when I guess like the coaching maybe have had something to do with it. I really don't know what his speculation was with New York.

But other than that, those are the only two teams I really see him going to. I mean, yes, Carolina's in there and they've made aggressive push for Stafford. I think the Jets and Dolphins are probably going to be where he's going. I mean, I don't see why he would go anywhere but Miami. Again, all the other teams he's looking at are years away from a playoff run. Never mind a Super Bowl. I mean, they're seasons away from even making the playoffs. Here's a Miami team.

They got a lot of young guys on rookie contracts, so the cap is there to give it to Deshaun Watson. There's a team that's ready to make the playoffs, and we have the receivers. We saw that last year. We have the receivers. We saw that last year. We have the defense. We saw that last year. The only piece that was really missing was an offensive line and a QB.

If we can get a couple guys on the line, either through free agency or the draft, and we can get Deshaun Watson, I don't see where we really have gaps. We have arguably the best kicker in the league right now. We've got the best defense in the league, arguably. So what's really missing? The offensive line and a quarterback. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you the best kicker in the league?

Hold on. Wait a minute there. Last season, yes. There's only one guy. There's one guy I know that is the best. You and your Ravens thing over here. It's not even me being a Ravens fan. It's just him being the best kicker in the league.

Okay, but I'm talking about last season. Yeah. Qualifies. Okay, fine. We're not going to argue this. It looks like he wasn't in all four. The point is every spot in Miami is pretty solid right now with the exception of the whole line quarterback. So if we can fill those two holes in the next offseason, keep our rookie wide receivers getting better and our rookie defense getting better i don't really see

where miami can go backwards from where they were last season so i think it's an investment for both parties where it could end in a ring it could not it could end in even just a playoff run but it's better than any of the rest of his options and it's better than staying in houston so all right so sean like what is is Miami's cap space right now? Do you know that? Off the top of my head, I don't. Because I know we've been getting rid of guys left and right. Let me try again.

Let's see. I don't believe they're – last I checked, they're not in the top 10. But they might be up there. One thing we – I mean, they did invest a lot in that defense uh last offseason with some contracts that went into 2021 so i think so i can't imagine it's going to be they're going to be very have that much that much cap space to work with because they just invested so much in that defense. And they also have a little bit on offense as well. So, they may not have the most cap flexibility. They did put Val Van Noy, so that kind of predetermined the situation. And that's – I think we have roughly 30 – I want to say it's 30 million in cap space.

But the thing is – but the thing is but the thing is it's like a player like the sean watson who's already said his goal is to go win a super bowl is going to arguably go with whoever's going to get him the closest i think right now so i can give that to you yes but if you look at the jets perspective look at how many draft picks they have 13 draft picks coming into this still 2 and 14 though that was from last season okay that was from last season donald wasn't fully healthy you had adam freaking gaze as coach so there's that we got rid of him so he got he just got sipped out of new york so we got that. I don't think Deshaun Watson wants to wait four years for a team like that to come around. And the Jets aren't going to go for him.

Just hear me out. Just hear me out. You got 80-something million in cap space. You got a lot of money to work with. And if you bring Watson, best believe that you guys, that they might get like someone top-notch in wide receiver. And a guy who I should point out who said something to Twitter if Watson went to New York, Allen Robinson. He said something. He said, if you're going to New York, I'm going to New York.

I literally saw that and no, it was not a fan page, Adam. So let me get that out of the way but so how do you know did he specify if it was if it was deshaun watson that he was talking about yes it's still all rumors it's how you it's like it's like jj watt going out and saying the mitochondria is the powerhouse to the cell and then all these league overthinkers are being like, oh, my God, he's going to the Bills for some reason. They just, like, twist it into this thing that we just don't know, you know. And just, like, you talk about, like, all these resources the Jets have. When they trade for Watson, you better believe that that team is going to need resources

because they had to spend all of that. They may have a lot of cap space left, but the Jets are still the Jets. They're not all that attractive of a destination. So there's not – we don't – he might – Deshaun Watson might make them competitive, but Deshaun Watson would make Miami a Super Bowl contender. You can't say the same thing about the Jets

next year. You really can't. I would say if Watson put that team there competitive enough to beat the Patriots, because right now the Patriots aren't looking at a good position. That says nothing. Can you find any other team that Watson's interested in going to? It's San Francisco.

What's the same guy? 49ers. Out of the teams that he's looking at, who else could you say is arguably going to give him a good run at the Super Bowl? The 49ers. Yes, San Francisco. So then what is – so how come – I mean, when I – Denver, too, actually.

No. I see. I know. They're – Denver too, actually. No. I see. I don't know. They're too young. Too young. They're too young. Too young. Once Jerry Judy gets going, once –

Yeah, second year. Jerry Judy and – What's his name? KJ Hamler. KJ Hamler and Tim Patrick is a free agent. But once those two get going, then those two will be fine. K.J. Hamler and Tim Patrick are irrelevant in that offense. It comes down to Cortland Sutton, Jerry Judy, and Noah Pham.

And all three of those players, they won't be too young. They'll be just right. They just need to improve that offensive line, maybe spend a little on the defense and they're ready and they're ready to be a competitive team in that uh they're going to have a crazy competitive division rival i think we exact we know who exactly that team is going to be but they're definitely going to be competitive in the afc when they get the shots i i gotta i okay kjlin was irrelevant?

Yeah. Compared to Cortland Sutton and Jerry Judy? Yes. Okay, yes. Dude. And Noah Fant? High prospect coming out of college, getting drafted. And Cortland Sutton, we already know he's capable of.

KJ Hamlin was like a low pick, all right? Give this guy a chance. He's only had one year or two. Brian, if you're an NFL quarterback tomorrow and you go into the Broncos' office, who are you throwing to? Noah Fant, Jerry Judy, Cortland Sutton, or are you going to look elsewhere and go like, oh, where's K.J. Hamler? Where's Tim Patrick out there?

I can say that K.JJ Hamler could be number three. Look, you got fan and tight end position. You got Judy and Sutton on the slot. KJ Hamler could be a nice slot receiver. That's what I'm saying. If KJ Sutton's already in the slot, then you can't put KJ Hamler in the slot. That's not how it works. I don't know what Carlton's on plays.

I don't know if he's on the wideout. Okay, so KJ Hamler could go on the wide out. He's still a good receiver. I don't know why you guys think that he's not. He's solid, but he's nothing compared to the top, the big three that they have in pass catchers. Big three. They're not that good yet.

We can't call them the big three. He had a pretty good year with Mr with mr drew lock throwing to him yeah they had a solid they had a solid season given the circumstances of who the quarterback was yeah we should certainly make a jump in here too and no offense also had his top had a tough go at it as well with drew lock and he's had some had some injuries he's had to deal with. But, I mean, give him a full healthy season, and then that team's ready to go. And add in Deshaun Watson, he makes that entire offense better. I was going to say, didn't they have to go a game without a quarterback anyways where they had to play a wide receiver at quarterback?

Yes. Yeah, they had to do that. So it's like they had a rough year. Yeah, add Desha to shot and everybody thought the broncos were going to be better last year everybody thought they were going to be better and um you add to sean watson to that mix and they absolutely will be better and honestly i gotta say they better than if the jetsets had Deshaun Watson. The argument still stands that we have to look at what's Houston going to want in return, though.

And I mean, I don't know what Denver or what the, I mean, I know what the Jets have to offer, but I don't know what Denver or a team like San Francisco has to offer. But I really feel like that third pick in the first round could be, I don't want to say juicy bait for them, but I feel like it could be a real good reason for them to lean towards Miami. Because at the end of the day, the front office also gets a say on where he goes because they need something back in return. And I feel like they're going to lean towards taking that third pick in the first round back from us. Because that would be their only first round pick. So they're going to take what they can get out of that if they're going to get rid of their star quarterback.

That's a possibility. If they get this out on Watson, I'll be happy with Zach Wilson because he can actually know how to stay on the field instead of Sam Donald knows who does not know how to stay on the field. You can't blame that on him. He's injured. No, no, no. Blame that on him.

He's sick. He gets injured in practice too much. No, he's a walking injury. Because y'all can't pass protect or block for anything. That's going to happen when you're on the New York Jets. I always think it's the line's fault that he gets sick and that he broke his ankle. He called mono. That's not his fault.

That's the accident he did at home. He got mono. He got mono. Okay, but what does the practice practice free grab have to come with? Okay. All right, we're going to move on. We're going to move on. We're going to move on.

So we spoke about one quarterback who's on the hot stove this offseason, being involved heavily in trade rumors rumors so we're going to transition into another quarterback who's just emerged to be heavily rumored in trade rumors ever since he's kind of voiced out his his frustration so Russell Wilson he told his agent he tells Adam Schefter that Wilson has not asked for a trade yet, but he does have a list. So this list includes Vegas, Chicago, New Orleans, and Dallas, if he were to get traded. So now he has expressed frustration with the team, and he's voiced some complaints about being hit too much. There's been reports that he stormed out of a meeting.

He has said he wants more of a say in team decisions, and that was kind of ignored. So there's a lot of tensions rising in that organization between them and the quarterback. So I think – so the question here is – and now we thought for a while that until this report surfaced that he would be – that this is kind of a pipe dream. But now it looks like it's coming into a little bit of a reality. So the question is, do you guys see him becoming – is this – is he going to get traded at any point? Nope. I just don't see it happening, at least right now. I think he's in the same position Deshaun Watson is in, except that the Seattle Seahawks know what they're getting out of it because he is a Super Bowl-winning quarterback despite that interception. But at the end of the day, Russell Wilson's a fantastic quarterback.

He's made the playoffs every single year of his career. He's a multiple-time Pro Bowler. He's an All-Pro. He's phenomenal. But at the same time, he hasn't had much help on that O-line. So I understand where he's coming from. And I think Seattle, if I'm Seattle, I should try to get him more help, especially since J.J. Watt is now on the NFC West.

I would start working on that old line and try to fix it immediately. Otherwise, he will get more and more disgruntled with it and will ask in demand for a trade. So I think it's about time they actually address the old line now. But I don't think he'll get traded. Not yet. Alright. Yep. That's... I have to disagree, but

Brian. I don't know why you're disagreeing. I'm saying no, too, because I think Russell Wilson, what Justin just went over, he's too valuable to give away. You see what he's done in the past, even though, obviously, besides the interception, he threw in the Super Bowl. Not happy about that. But, yeah, the Seahawks need to address those certain points.

I think they need to address that O-line, the run game. Oh, my God, address that run game, because I don't care what you say about Chris Carson. He is a walking injury on that field. The defense, for some reason reason wasn't doing too well that's another thing they might need to address I don't know why exactly because after getting Jamal Adams I thought that defense could be like a top 10 defense in the league but they weren't for some reason I guess they just didn't have a year they obviously they obviously fired defensive coordinator, but I don't think he's going to get traded this offseason. But if it keeps starting to fume, like Watson's case, I'm going to say next offseason he might get traded out.

And if I had to say a team, I would say Raiders. I don't see Derek Carr is not their future. I really do not see Derek Carr playing in Vegas that much longer. He's had so many chances in Vegas and I don't know.

He had Henry Ruggs didn't do anything with him. He always passes it to Waller. He can't even do anything with Jacobs, and Jacobs is supposed to be like a nice running back. I just don't see Derek Carr being in Vegas that much longer. And if Wilson were to get traded, he's going right to Vegas, I think. New Orleans, I think, will get quarterbacked by then. Chicago, I think, will get a quarterback by then.

And Dallas, I don't know why Dallas. Who knows? Dallas is more focused on Dak than trading for Wilson, so I'm going to say Raiders. Alright, so I'm going to tell both of you why you're dead wrong about Wilson not being traded.

You guys are dead wrong, and here's why. This report is a little disturbing to me that Russell Wilson's agent tells Adam Schefter that essentially that, well, I haven't asked for a trade, but if I were to be traded, I want to be traded here, here, here, and here. I mean, dude, that literally means, in other words, I'm thinking about getting traded. I hate it here. I'm pretty frustrated. I'm thinking about getting traded. I hate it here. I'm pretty frustrated. I want – I'm thinking about getting traded.

And so with reports of dysfunction and all of these – like he's being denied having a voice. As the franchise quarterback to have a say in these team meetings, he's – I just think he's eventually going to get traded. He stormed out of a meeting I mean that's pretty crazy that's like you know like and like it's the same thing with what I said with Deshaun Watson Deshaun Watson is unhappy with his team so he's going to get traded one way or another now it may not be this offseason but and it may not be the offseason after that but he's eventually going to be traded one way or another i don't see how these issues that i'm hearing of are going to get fixed

complaining about getting too much hit too much seattle is notorious for not investing in offensive lines that's not going to go away and their center well who is what did he get involved in a domestic violence incident or some sexual assault thing? They already cut him. So it's only going to get worse unless they invest there, which they haven't, and they haven't even tried to. So this is something where I don't see how you can't look at this and say, yeah, this is going to escalate to the point where he's going to get traded. And I've been very consistent on quarterbacks who are this unhappy. I say the

same thing about aaron rogers honestly when he when i when he spoke i know he went back he backtracked on this right after the nfc championship game when he said when he basically said well my future is kind of uncertain now i know like he his he was kind of in the heat of the moment but i think in the heat of the moment his he kind of really – the truth came out at that point. And he's kind of trying to say that he's like frustrated with this organization. He doesn't like what's going on. He already called for one coach's job with McCarthy and brought in Matt LaFleur, and he was clearly unhappy with that one decision not going it on for on fourth down and going for a field goal all right so you know I I'm very consistent on this this quarterback

is this unhappy he's going to get traded one way or another you can't keep a quarterback on your team that is this unhappy it's just a bad look one way or another he's gonna he's gone all right now Sean what are your thoughts on this? I mean, I was going to reference, let's look at what happened with a QB such as Tom Brady. Tom Brady was a legacy quarterback up in New England. And eventually there was some kind of, you know, fraught with the front office,

whether it was over the numbers of how much he was going to get paid or they weren't listening to him or whatever. But there comes a point where a quarterback grows, you know, old of not being listened to and feels like they hold a status on the team. They're the starting quarterback. They should have some kind of input. And as they get older and they're not getting that input

or they're not getting what they want, they see a reason to leave. And I think that he might stick around. I think this might be a heavy threat towards the front office where, hey, if something doesn't change, I will leave. Like, look, he did it up in New England, and I'm going to do it too if you don't change something right now. So I don't know if it's a certain he's going to get traded, but I think if nothing changes, then absolutely.

There's always a possibility things can turn around and it turns out like this was all just this was all just kind of just stupid drama that wound up being it kind of all just blew blew over i just see like you see a lot of situations like this when you see stuff like this happen it i rarely ever see it and you see it in all sports, when something like this happens. You rarely see it de-escalate when it gets to this point. I feel like there's a point of no return where just when it's this heavily rumored, when this much stuff happens, eventually it's broken beyond repair. There is the possibility everything could wind up being okay

but i think whether i think he's going to get traded i i just think it's it's as good as it's it's going to be over and this year or next year i think i think for i was going to say i think for russell wilson his eyes were kind of open when he watched brady walk away like back to the whole new england thing i think for him and a lot of quarterbacks they saw what brady did in new england i mean he was a super bowl winner whatever why would he ever leave why why would he be foolish enough to walk away from bill belichick and a franchise team that he built himself and when they realized the reasons he left and how he could still do it in another place these other quarterbacks went huh i could do that too i think russell wilson's in the same boat where he's unhappy just like br Brady was unhappy with the numbers and wasn't happy with things.

And he's going, look, I can go take my talent somewhere else and build up a dynasty over there. I mean, he did it. I can't act. And I think this is the only question to answer. This is my thing with you, Sean. If he's thinking about, like, the Bears, even though I don't think the Bears – if Wilson were to get traded this offseason, I don't think the Bears, Saints, and Dallas would wait that long.

I think the Raiders can wait, but the Raiders, if you look at that offense, like, all I see that stands out is, like, they're tight end, they're running back, and Henry Ruggs. They don't have much at wide receiver. I mean, Hunter Renfro, but, like, he's not really, like, reliable. But I just think that Wilson's just too valuable to give away. I understand what you're saying with Tom Brady, because maybe he was just a free agent and he just wanted to leave New England, maybe just to change his scenery, and he could still do it over there. I just think that Wilson is too valuable to give away,

considering he's easily a top five, top ten quarterback. But again, why? Okay, so to your point, if he's too valuable to give away, why would a team such as New England never accommodate to what Brady wanted when he was such a valuable player? Because I think Brady had a lot of issues with Belichick. Look, that was clear. Belichick literally was prouder of Garoppolo in San Francisco.

He openly said he was proud of what he had produced out of Garoppolo in San Francisco, but let anything bad always fall into Brady's shoulders. So it's like if you don't respect your quarterback, why would they want to stay? I mean, they're your star player. They're the reason you have six Lombardi trophies, and you're just going to look at them and be like, you know, you don't matter. You know, how would you feel as a player if you put, you know, sweat in? It's like Cam Newton when he went to New England.

I mean, the man didn't see his family, what was it, three months? He put everything into that team. You know, how could you feel that sitting there, putting all this effort in way more than any other player is and have zero input, you know? Yeah. And I think that's what people are starting to realize is Brady did it. And now a lot of people over the next few years are going to start to speak up and say hey i need

to see change this is what this team needs if they want to win and players are going to start getting more of an opinion whether it's the quarterback and eventually it might stem even deeper like we were talking about earlier with jj watt going to play for the cardinals it might eventually stem where these big name guys get more of a say in who comes and who goes, because they're the ones actually at the end of the day who are playing the game. Yeah. And Brian, Brian, if he's that valuable to Seattle, then why aren't they giving him more of a say in these meetings?

If he's so valuable, if he's so valuable to Seattle, then why are they not giving, giving him more protection and investing in an offensive line? If he's so valuable to that team, then why is he being denied more of a say on his team? And why are they not accommodating for him right now and trying to make things better? They're not making an effort.

It feels like, I mean, like the fact that it just got out, that he's requested something like this. I mean, clearly they don't value him that much. Look, they could fix the offensive line. There's that. It's a matter of whether they will. This could be just something that's like, like you said, this could be something that's like drama, bull crap, whatever.

And they could fix it during like the offseason i think that he will still end up in seattle and if things don't go according to plan like i said he gets traded next offseason this is like another deshaun watson from this offseason you know deshaun is out of use in this probably this season i think it will say if this starts to boil more and more with the team then then I think Wilson would get traded out next offseason. But you say put the offensive line, dude, that's an easy fix.

They already released their center. They know they need help. And this, you, what's his name, Mike Ilepody or something like that, he just retired. He was with Seattle. See, that's easier said than done. If they've lost all these offensive line players, especially like in left tackle, what's their situation at left tackle? Left tackle is very

hard to replace. There's not many great left tackles in the league. And again, to your point, they just lost their center. Their offensive line already in the past in the past couple decades historically has been shaky and now they're losing some players it's only going to get worse before it gets better and is russell wilson willing to wait for that you know he just complained about getting about getting hit too much and they they haven't listened to it now it maybe they could fix it but it's a matter of whether they will and they haven't they haven't listened to it. Now, maybe they could fix it, but it's a matter of whether they will. And they haven't done it before. What makes you think they'll do it now?

I think it's just that reason it's not enough to, like, have him get sent out of Seattle just because the offensive line. It's the will of them wanting. It's up to Seattle's organization if he wants to get traded. It could obviously be his decision, but I don't think he's going to make the dumb move and say all right i'm gonna sit out see i don't i think it's really i think it's really a threat at the end of the day because he hasn't gone up and said i demand a trade he's just said well you know i wouldn't mind going to these places like

i'm not opposed if i was to get traded to go here so i think he's pretty much looking at the front office and saying hi you're gonna fix this or you're going to send me here. Like it was kind of like a gesture of like fix this. So he might not go this offseason, but if you don't see change, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if you see him leave next year. So basically what you're saying is that he's catching your eyes. He's pretty much bringing the he's threatening the front office. He's pretty much saying, here's a reality that I could be traded.

I am not here guaranteed. You better listen to me or eventually I will be traded and you will have no quarterback. I think he might stay one year, see if they fix things, and then if they don't fix things, I think next year you could see him go. Seattle would still have to trade

him and people would have to give up reasonable assets to acquire him if they're not giving me the right or proper assets to trade or acquire i'm not giving him up specifically because the contract he signed with us if he was very upset about the situation and if he was very much upset about the circumstances surrounding it i wouldn't have signed the deal to make me the highest paid quarterback in the league if I was that upset about it. The defensive side or the offensive side? Like what Adam said, left tackle is hard to replace.

I do give him that. You're not going to get much from left tackle. I think it's really hard to draft. I would say draft one, but I don't really know anyone besides this Alex Leatherwood guy coming out of Alabama that stands out as an offensive tackle. I don't know if he plays right or left.

So other than that, that's really it. Like I said, it's hard to get offensive linemen who's like a left tackle they couldn't if wilson were to get traded they could get someone like on the cornerback side maybe or like the line side or like the defensive line side into if you want to give up wilson but like i said i was gonna tell you everything maybe he just wants more input like maybe he's just saying this like i mean it's understandable you can't just you know fix something at the snap of your finger it It's impossible. I mean, it takes time and money and, you know, it takes good trades and good picks and free agency, you know, and it takes some working. But maybe it's like he's just looking for the effort to see that they're actually listening to him. Even if he, again, because we don't know how much of this is a threat versus how much of this is him legitimately saying, I will be traded.

Like, I want to be traded if you don't fix ABC. Or if he just wants to see the front office take a step towards listening to him just to see that they're actually caring of what he has to say. So even like one step in the proper direction, like maybe a new offensive lineman in the draft this year that could actually help them rather than taking later. Because like Adam said earlier, they don't really focus on their own line so maybe he is just wants he just wants to see improvement that they're actually listening to him and that his input actually does matter before he says okay no i

don't want to be traded yeah that's fine i think he will play in 2021 i think he will be in the seattle clg oh i think i agree i don't think he's at the point where Deshaun is where he's like, all right, I will sit down and not play. I don't think he's at the point. Well, no, absolutely not. I just think if he doesn't see progress in them actually doing something he has to say, even if it's not to the full extent, just to show that they're listening, then he might, you know, next year start to consider.

I found this stat so funny. I didn't know this was true. Since 2017, Blake Bortles has more playoff wins than Russell Wilson. I showed you that. I still can't believe it. I didn't. Blake Bortles has two. Russell Wilson has one.

And so, Sean, I would agree with you on saying that, you know, this team, he could be just using this as leverage to say you guys need to fix this and like i'm going to give my insight or or i'm gone but um hearing this report that reports that he wants he said he wants to get uh he wants a he wants more of a say in team meetings and what and their decisions and and then they kind of ignore it and it falls on deaf ears. That's a little alarming to me, and that's why I feel like maybe this isn't just a leverage play. This is him actually thinking, like, dude, they're not listening to me. I'm getting hit too much, and this is something where I'm not sure if I can stay here much longer.

I mean I see it as a final threat. I don't want to say – because the end stage would be where Deshaun Watson is, which is I want to trade. Get rid of me. Get me out of here. I want to leave. He hasn't reached that point. He's only said – he's only hinted at it publicly of where he would want to go if he was traded. So I don't think he's saying, you know, I want to be traded now, but I think he's pretty much saying, hey, like I'm reaching wit's end. You're either going to listen or I'm going to go.

I just feel like if they were going to, if he was going to, if he was really at this stage that you say he is, I feel like he wouldn't be coming out with specific teams he wants to get traded to, having his agent actually come out. This isn't just rumors. This is actually things that his agents told Adam Schefter and said, look, we haven't asked for a trade yet, but I think we want to go here, here, here, and here. We want to go to Dallas. We want to – I mean we can talk all we want about those destinations. Those are some those destinations. Those are some weird destinations.

But just look at the fact that – don't you find it a little wacky that they just came out with all of these specific destinations and said like that we might want to get traded actually publicly but i think that's the point is it was like a it was because you know obviously he walks out and he's shown his frustration but it's like anything in the world where like until it's shown right in front of your face where it could actually end up if you don't fix the problem they probably just were like oh whatever he's our franchise quarterback you know he's not gonna leave like you know he just kind of has to deal with it so now when they sit there and they look and they see oh my god this could actually be real that's when they have to take a step back that's their front office and go okay what are we going to do to fix this and if they don't fix it you know he's gone but i i really think that this is like the fine i'm truly stuck that this is the final you know hey you know i've expressed my concerns. Here is the real threat of these are the teams I want.

Like, I might be going. And that should be eye-opening for the front office, especially since it was publicly said. I think it really is also to say, like, if he leaves, it wasn't his fault. He has expressed his concerns with the team. He's made it public he's expressed his concerns, and they don't want to listen so that fans of Seattle know, hey, I'm not abandoning you at your front offices. All right. Now we're running short on time.

We're going to just touch on this last segment real quick. All right. Now, Alex Smith, we find out a couple of days ago on Monday, he is being released by Washington at the start of free agency. So this is a guy who has won Comeback Player of the Year after undergoing 17 knee surgeries in the past couple of years. He, following a life-threatening leg injury, suffered during the 2018 season. So this is somebody who's gone through a lot of stuff, and they literally just – right after he makes his comeback, he says, yeah, you're gone. You're gone you're gone buddy um so guys real quick how like let's just touch on this real fast because we're gone we're getting pretty uh we're getting way up there on time how are we feeling about this uh about this decision by Washington making this

move I think it's a bold move I think you either have a lot of faith in Taylor Heineke or you're at the point where we don't want you here anymore. You kind of cost us our plans. So see you. Bye. I'm not sure where to take this. I think Alex Smith is a good quarterback. I'm not sure if I want him starting right now because of the leg injury. But I still want him on my roster to help develop my backups in case they have to be starters or my franchise quarterbacks yeah you can understand that side of it kind of saying like well like he went through all this stuff uh and he they kind of just kind of just let him go and kind of cut him and um they were very supportive of him throughout the process uh you know he it was, it was a life-threatening thing, so, and he kind of just got cut, he hits free agency, so, Brian, what are your thoughts? I mean, it is sad to see, like, Alex Smith, what he, the crap he went through, oh my god, I can't believe that guy even is still

playing the NFL, but it is sad to see him go um so like I don't know like I understand the move because he's always two things one when he came back he was battling a couple of like minor injuries like concussions hamstrings stuff like that um he's also up there in age so that's another thing um so he might be finished with that and i understand why washington did also release him because of that what that offense has very young offense as you can see with like antonio gibson jd mckissick uh what's his name uh steven sins jr uh terry mclaurin that's a very young offense right there. Logan Thomas, that's another one. I could see that Washington could win the NFC East division

if you draft a quarterback in the draft. I'm not saying Taylor Honig. I don't know where the hell you're getting that, Justin. I'm going to say, and this is what I said. Is that Dwayne Haskins? Is Dwayne Haskins drafted again he was a bust he had no business doing the NFL

so what makes you think they won't draft another bust well I'm going to say but this is the quarterback I had on the scopes with. So I think Mac Jones could fall in the middle of the draft in the first round, maybe like a Patriots or something like that.

We all know Lawrence, Fields, Wilson, all those guys will be up in the high. We all know Lawrence will be the Jaguars. If the Jets miss out on Watson, Wilson's going to be there. Fields, I think, will end up in either Carolina or Atlanta. I'm going to say Atlanta, though. I'm going to say Kyle Trask. Kyle Trask could go to Washington. He could do a little something there.

That's why I'm saying that Washington... What? Bust. Kyle Trask is going to be a bust. I don't like Kyle Trask. You don't like Kyle Trask, but I like what he's done in college. I think he's a nice little – I like his teammate, Kyle Pitts.

I like Pitts. I like Pitts, not Trask. I like Tony. I like – Wrong Kyle. I can't say that. No, mm-mm. I like Trask and I love Trask in college.

He was one of my favorites, and I think he was one of my favorites in college. I think he's like a sleeper, to be honest with me, in his draft. All right. No one really sees the names. You don't see Kyle Traskin pop up on the list. Okay. Now, I understand both sides of the situation. So, to Justin's point, yeah, they kind of just cut him right after,

right following such a comeback season for him after a life-threatening injury. But on the other side, you have to look at the other side of it, the business side of it, unfortunately unfortunately which is that with this move they they get 14.7 million dollars in cap space back for this season this is a team that was already top five six in cap space this season and they go up by 14.7 so that's a huge number and this is a team that's very young and up and coming. They have Logan Thomas coming up. They have Terry McLaurin coming up, and they could be – their defense is awesome. So this is a team that's getting very close to contention.

They may be just a quarterback away, so this is something where they might want to – they could either trade for one. They could sign one. They could draft one. I'm not sure what they can get at the position that they're at. Maybe we'll see where Mac Jones goes, not Kyle Trask. Maybe Trey Lance. But, you know, this is a team that's very close to postseason to contention. And, you know um we love you

alex smith we i hope you find honestly go to new england you'd be a nice fit there we're looking for a type of quarterback like you sort of a bridgy kind of type of quarterback to transition over to our next guy keep us keep us afloat um go to new england go to a new team we i mean you're gonna find and he's gonna find a new team he's a he's that type of he's a nice player go to new england come come over here come to boston we'll we'll treat we'll treat you well all right but sean final thoughts before we close out uh i was i was you know it's definitely not the end for alex smith but i gotta agree with adam there's a it's definitely not the end for alex smith but i gotta agree with adam there's a business side to everything and is is alex smith worth the money

that washington was going to pay out to him i mean they finished seven and nine he only played in half their games granted i think he won five of them five of the eight he played in but he is you know washington's looking at going is he worth you know the investment when we have is adam saying rock you know people rising up and getting better? Or is it worth letting go of him and bringing someone else new to help us rise the team up as one? And I get to agree with letting him go as much from a business perspective. He'll find somewhere else to play. His story is amazing, obviously.

I mean, he came back from something most people probably would never. I mean, he battled the road of recovery, but I just don't think Washington was the fit. I don't think, you know, he was too old for what Washington's looking for. Well said, Sean. All right, boys, that'll do it for us tonight. All right, thank you for listening to us. Make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel.

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