The Fumblerooski Podcast - The Real Games Begin -Ep 152 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: January 17, 2023

Was the Jaguars' historic comeback them winning or the Chargers losing it? How did the Giants pull off a successful turnaround from their last season? What does the future hold for Tom Brady? Adam Wright and CJ Medeiros host special guests Chris Costich and Bryan Sierra to discuss these topics and more!

Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's a cross! Diggs! Side-bind! Touchdown! Unbelievable! It's a catch. It's in. Cross. Takes. Side line. Touchdown. Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field to Watkins.

Sammy Watkins for the touchdown. Super Wild Card Weekend lived up to its name as we head towards the divisional round with some exciting matchups. You're listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright alongside CJ Medeiros, and today we have a great episode in store for you guys tonight. We're going to talk about the Jaguars and their historic comeback victory. We're going to talk about the Giants pulling yet another upset in the past decade over the Vikings here. The Bills and Bengals heading to the divisional round, but they did not look as good as they could be.

And Tom Brady's future and joining us to talk about all of this. We have special guests, both returning to the show. We have Brian Sierra and Chris Kostic. Guys, welcome back to the show. We have some new listeners though. So why don't you guys introduce yourselves? I'll let you go first, Chris. I'm Chris. If you've listened before, me and Adam worked on the Brockton Rocks

together. I also currently broadcast and produce for Plymouth State University. Be sure to check us out. LEC Network. I'll be calling a game tomorrow night. Men's basketball versus New England College. Yeah, that's basically my short rundown of who I am.

What up? My name is Brian. I'm a senior at William Patterson University in New Jersey. Looking to talk some ball with y'all boys today. Yeah, and it is a good day for you to talk some ball since you're a Giants fan. Yeah. And you're going to have your guest segment about that. Giants pulling the upset. And Daniel Jones having maybe the best game of his entire career with three total touchdowns and over 300 yards.

I don't even think it should be called an upset no more. It's just an upset because it's the Giants, you know what I'm saying? Like if it was any other team, just not named the Giants, same stats, same players, everybody would be like, oh, it's not an upset. You know, they're a good team. But just because it's the Giants and they used to be, you know what I'm saying, bad, now it's an upset. But when they were 6-1, you know what I'm saying, every single game they got lucky or they was fraud, you know what I'm saying? Bad. Now it's an upset. But when they were 6-1, you know what I'm saying? Every single game they got lucky or they was fraud, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I don't know. Everybody said coming into the game, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you can't beat the Vikings. You're not going to beat the Vikings. And now you beat the Vikings. Oh, the Vikings are frauds. I'll accept the excuses. I'll keep them coming.

If we keep winning, I'll accept the excuses. We keep winning. Yeah. It also helps that you always expect your Giants to win, and you just favor them over every team. Exactly. All right, well, we're going to get straight into it. And the Jaguars, they wound up beating the Chargers 31-30

after falling down 27-0 towards the end of the second quarter. Their comeback was the third largest comeback in NFL history. NFL postseason history. Right. You're right. That's what I meant. So, guys, was this game the Jaguars winning it or the Chargers more losing it brian i'll start with you i think it's a little bit of both uh charges up 27-0 i feel like they kind of got comfortable as any team in the nfl kind of would get comfortable being up 27-0 you're not really expecting any team to

come back that probably only really happened with the uh vikings lions game i know the jaguars they're a good team they have playmakers everywhere and trevor lawrence is a dog i mean like i knew he was nice going into the game but he was just at first he threw like three picks starting off the game i'm like oh like he's getting exposed whatever the jags are gonna be the jags first round like i thought they were like it was a miracle that they even made the playoffs. I thought that they were just happy being there. But they're like, no, we want more. And just, you know what I'm saying, down 27-0.

They didn't flinch. They didn't blink. Just came back and, you know what I'm saying, crazy win. I thought the craziest part of it, though, when the Chargers were up 27-0, there was a better – I saw it on, like, Bleacher Report, I think, or Overtime or something like that, where it was like some sports better. But the Chargers were up 27-0, put a $1.4 million bet for the Chargers to win it, while they were minus $12,500 at the time, to only win like $10,000. So imagine putting $1 million, $1.5 million to only win 10 grand,

and you lose. Yeah, Brian, I saw that too. I thought that was pretty ridiculous. No, like I don't want to say he deserves it. You know what I'm saying? Like that's just insane luck. Like I don't know if – I would just stop betting anything after that. I would not make another bet after that. I don't even know if he has money betting anything after that. I would not make another bet after that.

I don't even know if he has money to bet after that. Like, that's probably everything he had. So it's like, like, I understand why he did it. It's like, who's going to come back 27, like, zero? Like, that maybe only happens once every, like, 20 years. And it already happened, like, once this year already. So I doubt it's going to happen again. In his mind, he thought it was an easy $10,000.

But, man, but talk about tough luck yeah that's a fair point all right uh chris what are your thoughts i mean definitely i feel like it's more on the chargers because chargers end up always finding a way to lose these types of games, as we've seen the last few years now. And when you don't have a run game and you're up 27 to nothing, you really handcuff yourself. You really handcuff yourself, especially when you have a guy like Austin Eckler who gets a ton of touches. But the problem is he's never – I saw one stat. He never had more than 20 carries in a game in his entire career.

And when you couple that in to how well the Jaguars' defense was playing in the second half, I mean, it doesn't – it leaves a huge opportunity for the Jaguars' offense to build momentum off of what their defense is doing and on top of that the Chargers defense I mean how do you how do you blow that how do you blow that because obviously you can look at Justin Herbert and the and the Chargers offense whatnot but if you don't have anything going on the run game you're left with third and long third and medium and sure Herbert can make those throws. But you can't expect someone to make a third and ten throw every single drive.

Or third and ten, third and long regardless. You just can't expect someone to make a throw like that every single time. And that leaves the Chargers to only get three points in the second half. And you open the door for the jaguars to lay their balls on the freaking field and go for two to leave yourself with a field goal to win the game i mean amazing amazing game management by jaguars and doug peterson first of all to even try to do that in the first place. And so, I mean, I guess that's my take on it. So Chargers, I think Chargers really just lost this one.

And can I add one more thing? Yeah, sure. The week before, I saw that the Chargers really didn't have anything to play for, and they start all of their starters. You know, like the Giants were in the same boat, and they benched everybody. Brian, they didn't want to take any risks getting anybody injured. Because it's – I don't know if the Chargers were in a similar situation that if they won, they wouldn't go up a seed. If they lost, they wouldn't go down a seed.

I think they're in a position where if they won or lost, they're going to be locked in to play at their seed no matter what. And I think Brandon Staley is the head coach. He sends everybody out. He's like, we're going to be locked in to play at their seat no matter what. And I think Brandon Staley is the head coach. He sends everybody out. He's like, we're playing to win. We're not going to play scared. And Mike Williams gets hurt. And Bosa gets hurt.

So now you're already going into the week, you know, without momentum. Like you're losing one of your two-star players on both sides of the field. And thankfully, Joy Bosa wasn't hurt, seriously. But Mike Williams is out the game. he couldn't even play this game i'm pretty sure he would have made somewhat of a impact this game whether if they won or lost you know um that's somebody that you want to have on your team healthy playing that's not somebody on your team that you want out so i kind of want to blame the head coach, not for playing his players, but not having them on a pitch count like I think he should have.

Yeah, Staley definitely is to blame for a lot of this. Yeah. I mean, you brought it up perfectly. Mike Williams breaks his back, and then Boze goes down for a little bit. He wasn't hugely affected because he was able to play this past week, but on top of that, Boze getting two unsportsmanlike penalties because he couldn't keep his cool after his team blew a 27-0 lead and then goes to a press conference and then to the reporters, starts bashing on the referees.

Sure, you can bash on the referees all you want, and that's a whole different story. But you also got to be able to keep your cool in the playoffs when something like that happens yeah that's a that's a disciplinary issue and that all goes down to coaching uh as well but uh cj what do you think i'm really tempted to say that the chargers chargered another game but it takes two to tango and you, you know, we've seen really sloppy games where one team's getting handed the game on a silver platter

by a team that's choking and they can't seal the deal. So I will give props for the Jaguars for turning it around as well. You know, their defense clamping down and their offense ramping up the production. And if you're the Chargers, I got a question. How does Brandon Staley still have a job? How? ramping up the production and if you're the chargers i got a question how does brandon staley still have a job how i mean the chargers fans literally want him dead for just breathing and then he goes and does this i mean you can make your token sacrifices of the offensive

coordinator and your quarterback's coach but still won't fix the underlying issue and uh there is i'll try to keep it brief but there is one more thing i know everyone views him as a top 10 quarterback but i think it's high time we have a talk about justin herbert he's i don't think he's the guy everybody says he's the next big thing i view him as the next matt stafford he'll stuff the stat sheet but he you're not going to win with him and you could say coaching as much as you want but i haven't seen anything like he's stuff the stat sheet but he you're not going to win with him and you could say coaching as much as you want but i haven't seen anything like he's missed the playoffs his first two seasons and then he gets in and this happens and he's a one and done like i i know people say it's

early yet but i mean we we but i'm not saying they move on from him because it'd be stupid if you did because it's just not worth it but i i i think it's time to pump the brakes on the herbert hype uh i don't know about that so you're going back and forth you're talking about the jaguars and the the chargers which so which which is it it was the jaguars winner so a little bit of both yeah it was literally a little bit of both but i'm just saying i don't know if herbert's that guy i really don't all right especially if they miss the playoffs next year and go one and done then i don't know what to tell you i i think that you make a good point about that he could be the next matt stafford but the thing with stafford was that sure he was stuffing the stat sheet but he also played on the lines

throw him on and we saw how he did with the Rams last year. Granted, he sucked this year. And we saw what we could do with the Rams last year with how loaded of an offense that was and how amazing of a team that the Rams were last year. So, I don't know. You throw Justin Herbert with a good coach, a coach that's actually capable of not blowing a 27 nothing lead then i think that okay hear me out but just look at his stats from that game i mean are you familiar with them because he had a completion percentage of 58 273 passing yards and one touchdown for a pass rating of 84 that's not what you want especially for a quarterback whose heralded as top 10 fringe,

top five. All right. So I don't think I have too much to add. I think a lot of you guys pretty much hit the nail on the head here with most, with most of this game. I think the only thing I would add giving the the Jaguars some credit is, and I alluded to this a little bit before the show, the Jaguars were kind of a team that seemed like they were just happy to be there. And they were a team that really, I mean, it's their first, it's kind of

their first time, you know, playing at a high level. And I felt that that was going to get to them. And it did. It did. Boy, did it. Four picks in the first half. I also want to mention two of those picks weren't really Lawrence's fault either. Yeah, there's that as well. Yeah, it wasn't his fault.

Just the way I look at it, when you throw four picks, chances are there's a trend going there, right? And two of them probably weren't his fault. But at one point, you start looking at it. But to go from, for him, from so bad to so great, this is why I don't really like to look at just the final stats in a game if you look at it and it says four picks four and four touchdowns like oh he was just okay but he started out so bad and he figured it out and brought the team all the way back and he did

it with um all season really with his top wide receiver being Christian Kirk, who's more of, at least during his career, he's been more of a wide receiver two. Kind of the same with Zay Jones being more of a wide receiver three, but he's been able to make his pieces that much better, lead his team to the playoffs, and get a playoff victory. I mean, I just got to give Trevor Lawrence all the credit in the world. He figured it out. It wasn't his best night at first. Clearly the nerves got to him, but he, I mean, he figured things out, man. And that is,

the sky is the limit for this kid. It really is, especially being on an imperfect Jaguars team. It's only supposed to get better considering they're getting Calvin Ridley next year. But I did want to move on, so we're going to change gears, and we are going to get to Brian's guest segment where we're going to talk about the Gi who pulled the upset over the vikings that is next this is the fumble ruski podcast here gentlemen broken up in the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football, and they're saying it's a catch.

It's in. Oh! Takes! Sideline! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Slings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown!

This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros, special guest Brian Sierra and Chris Kostic. All right, so we are on to Brian's guest segment where we are going to talk about Giants and their victory over the Vikings. So, Brian, what do you got? I was called a madman, you know what I'm saying? I was called a madman at the beginning of the year. Giants going to make the playoffs. You're delusional.

You're not going to win more than six games. Whatever. You're going to work. Make the playoffs or you guys are going to get bounced. Linsanity run. Giants win. The Vikings are fraud. You guys are going to get smoked by the

freaking Eagles divisional game. You know what I'm saying? The Giants for me, they're the team to beat. And I kind of have a Bengals vibe to them from last year. Last year, the Bengals snuck into the playoffs and not really snuck in, but they weren't really a team making a lot of noise. Like people weren't really worried about them. And then they show up to the Super Bowl.

And then now people – or they start winning and people are like, oh, this is a hot team. This is going to be the team to beat in the playoffs right here. And I'm getting that vibe from the Giants just a little bit. They're kind of under the radar. People know that they're a team. If they stick around, they could win these games, but they're also a team that could blow the doors open if you let them. Dable, Brian Dable, unhandily, he should get coach of the year. Like, I don't really think that there's a coach maybe doug peterson but the giants have the worst receiving court in the nfl name me name me one of these receivers that are starting on any nfl team richie james who was signed into all season to be

a punt returner isaiah hodgins who was claimed off of waivers sometime in November, and Darius Slayton, a fifth-round pick from four years ago. The Giants are making it happen with receivers who you really didn't think that weren't even the best receivers coming into the year. Coming into the year, their best receivers would have been Kadarius Toney, who got traded, Sterling Shepard, who got hurt, Wanda Robinson, who they drafted but got hurt, Kenny Galladay, who got a big $72 million contract. He's been disappearing since recently.

Daniel Jones, everybody had questions on him, but I think he kind of proved himself this game coming up. He went 24 for 35, 300 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, with a 114 rating. His rushing went crazy. He had 17 carries for like 80 yards his longest run was 15 yards and i saw a stat that he was like the first player in playoff history to have 300 passing yards and with multiple touchdowns and like 70 rushing yards the first player in the

nfl history in the playoffs to get a win and do that. And the only people who have did that, I think, were like Josh Allen and one other person, but they didn't win the games. Saquon Barkley is a dog, you know what I'm saying? On the stat sheet, it didn't really show that he went crazy, but he had 100 total yards, 53 rushing and like 58 receiving. But he made plays when they mattered. To start off the drive, to start off the game, the Vikings rolled out,

run down the field and score it easily. So I'm like, Oh my God, this is going to be a long game. The Giants come right back. 30 yard rip by Saquon Barkley, right up the, right up the sideline team goes crazy.

O-line goes crazy and their defense looking a little bit suspect, you know, Justin Jefferson to start off the game. I thought he was going to go crazy. He their defense looking a little bit suspect. You know, Justin Jefferson, to start off the game, I thought he was going to go crazy. He was locked up the rest of the game. He was not a factor. Dalvin Cook locked up, not a factor. Kirk Cousins was exposed.

He wasn't a factor. Coming into the Eagles game, I hope the Giants could, you know, rely on their defense a little bit more. Everybody talks about, oh, the defense wasn't that bad this game. I didn't like how it was a shootout because the Giants aren't really that but, you know, rely on their defense a little bit more. Everybody talks about, oh, their defense wasn't that bad this game. I didn't like how it was a shootout because the Giants aren't really that kind of team to win these shootout kind of games. The Giants are a team that'll win by keeping it close. And in the fourth quarter, they're just going to be the better coach,

more disciplined team at the end of the day. I don't really like how they're going into shootouts. I don't think that's their game. But Daniel Jones, he's a dog, man. He's doing this with receivers who aren't really – they're good receivers. I love these receivers to death, but they're not no Stefan Diggs. They're not A.J. Brown.

Do you know what I'm saying? So wait until the offseason once Daniel Jones gets his weapon and Saquon Barkley back with a few more pieces on defense, it's going to be a problem. Yeah, the way the team is built, it's been, at least this season, it's been kind of more of just kind of managing the game through the passing offense and then letting Saquon Barkley control the game, control the clock.

When you're able to run the ball effectively, then you can control the clock um and also play serviceable defense that's really what got the um the giants to this level they don't try to be anything that they're not um and if you and daniel jones has proven to be at this point a player where if he has the pieces then he could he could potentially be a starting quarterback in this league. So they got to give him some help. And I do see a team over in Arizona who's shopping a veteran-wide receiver that you might like in DeAndre Hopkins,

who should fetch not too bad of a price given he's a veteran. He was just suspended for a third of the year. That's a possibility. But, Chris, what do you think? I mean, yeah, we can say the Vikings are frauds and all that. But, I mean, Giants came to play. I mean, even the Vikings didn't even have, like, a terrible game. I mean, they didn't commit any turnovers or anything like that.

There was one stat that I saw. It was – hold on. I'm trying to pull it up right now. But it was the first time that a team had committed no turnovers. Hold on. I sent it to my buddy's group chat the other day, and it was – I can't find it right now. Do you know off the top of your head? I can't know off the top of my head.

It was the first team in NFL history that went – yeah, I can't find it right now. But it was the first team in NFL history or in postseason play that had zero turnovers and something else and ended up losing the game. And I think in that, I mean, the Vikings' biggest problem was always going to be their defense. Obviously, the offense, they have Kirk Cousins that doesn't play well other than 1 p.m. and Justin Jefferson, and the Giants were able to hold them down to 24 points and whatnot. But like you said, Brian, once they get more pieces on defense and coaching too, I mean, look at where they get more pieces on defense and coaching too,

I mean, look at where they were last year with Joe Judge. Here they are with Brian Dabble. Coaching does so much, and Brian Dabble has made Daniel Jones into a now top-15 quarterback in the league. And Saquon's actually now healthy as well. Saquon's playing to the best of his ability, starting to get into his prime, or not even into his prime yet, you could argue, but playing like he should be in his prime. And at this point, Giants playing the Eagles next week,

lost the Eagles twice this year. It's hard to beat a team three times. That's what I'm saying. It's possible. And I have a question for you guys because you guys are all Patriots fans. You know, when Joe Judge was on the Giants, he was like the most hated man in New York. I'm, like, telling you.

Like, nobody claimed this man. He was like a fraud. You don't like him here either. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask. Like, he came in, ruined the offense. He set the offense back 50 years. When he left, it was like we won the Super Bowl. Everybody loved it.

Everybody was ecstatic. Then you get Brian Dable, who with a worse, you could argue, a worse roster than he had last year, flipped the team a complete 180. It's like a whole different team, a whole different brand of football that the Giants are playing. So I just wanted to know your opinion on Joe Judge and what do you think he's done for you guys joe judge is a special teams coach that's all i think we might move him to special teams coach and accord might be demoted to uh assistant

special teams but i'm not sure yeah that would probably be the better i mean there's yeah explain everything yeah patriots never really were horrible on special teams. Like, they usually had a pretty solid special teams group up until this year. So, and obviously that showed last week of the season, two returns for a touchdown. Like, how the hell do you let that happen with a playoff berth on the line? Yeah. Special teams, it's usually good for them.

That's usually one of their strengths. But this year, it was kind of a weakness, and that was a problem. And that starts with putting Joe Judge in the right spot, which is not calling offensive plays, having him call special teams plays, because he's actually pretty solid at that. But I wanted to stick to the topic of the Giants this past weekend, but CJ, what do you think about this team? I picked the Vikings to win, even though I thought they were fraudulent. And honestly, Giants are legit. There's no two ways around it.

I mean, they expose the Vikings. And honestly, I know the Eagles have the best record and they're all high and mighty. But if I'm Phillyilly i'm not looking past them because not only are the giants legit uh divisional games are always always tough you know like no matter who you're always getting their best fight and if the giants catch the eagles sleeping oh i would not rule out an upset because teams like in one and two seeds well much like philly sometimes they have the uh unfortunate arrogance to look past their opponents and believe you me you do not look past the giants that's really all i got. I just found the stat I was just talking about.

So per Optus stats, the Vikings are the only team in the Super Bowl era to complete at least 80% of their passes, no turnovers, no sacks, and still lose in regular or postseason. NFL teams have been 47-0 in the Super Bowl era when doing all that in a game before the other day. Well, there you go for the Vikings. I wanted to touch on Kirk Cousins a little bit. So it's been an ongoing debate like all season between myself and Tuck on whether or not Kirk Cousins is a top 10 quarterback.

So much, and it got so out of hand that I decided, you know what, I'm just going to whip up a list, and it's labeled Quarterbacks Better Than Kirk Cousins. And I don't know, man. I think I might want to add Danny Dimes to that list after this past week. You probably should. But in all seriousness um looking at looking towards next week and we will we will go more in depth previewing uh these matchups uh for our friday

episode but like the eagles this year have been a team where if they're not blowing you out, they're barely getting out alive. In fact, in a lot of the closer games they've had, they've been punched in the mouth and they never recover. For example, the Washington game earlier this year, they absolutely got smothered and they were never able to recover from that. And then it took them a week for them to actually figure things out again because they fell down to the Colts and they very nearly until the last second lost to them. So this is a team that if you can keep it close, then you have a shot. I don't want to call them

soft, but they're a team that I would say seems to have trouble with handling adversity. And if this Giants team is as fearless as they were last year, where they stand up to their opponent, they show no intimidation, and they act like they've been there before, then you could have a shot against Philly, because they have had issues in close games this year. But I wanted to change gears here and talk about the Bills and Bengals. So these are two teams that have been arguably favorites this year to represent in the Super Bowl, but both showed some struggle in their matchups. We're going to talk about whether or not we should be concerned

about these two teams. That's next. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's a catch. Oh! Takes! Sideline!

Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! You are listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright, C.J. Medeiros, special guests Brian Sierra and Chris Kostic. So the Bills and Bengals have won their respected matchups and will face each other in the divisional round where the Bills will host.

However, it didn't look pretty. So both of these teams were heavily favored to win their matchups against the other team's backup and third string quarterbacks. But they both barely won by a possession, both of them. And actually, the Dolphins had the lead for a little while there. So guys, I'll start with you, Brian. Is there any reason to be concerned about either of these teams? If I'm a Bengals fan, I'm a little bit worried you know what i'm saying even though i went up against the ravens a divisional opponent went up against their backup quarterback you shouldn't be

blowing a team out if you're in the playoffs and you're going up against their backup quarterback i feel like if i'm the bangles i I'm like, oh, we barely made out. This one alive. Bills, they're in the same boat. You know what I'm saying? Divisional opponent against a backup quarterback, that might be a team's kryptonite. You know what I'm saying?

If I'm the head coach of another team, I know that if – is it Jared Stidham that was their backup quarterback? That was who played for the Dolphins? Skylar Thompson. Skylar Thompson, yeah. If I'm Skylar Thompson and if I'm giving the bills, the work, and I'm – you know what I'm saying? He's like – he might be the worst quarterback in the playoffs.

Like that should be a team where you should get – like that should be your get-right game. That should be the game to set your team up for the playoffs. Like this is who we are. We're coming and blow them out. That shouldn't be a game where you're like crawling out of the game like oh like thank god we made it out alive you know what i'm saying so that's a hit to the ego that's like a hit to the confidence and like now i think that they're not scrambling they're still a confident team they still know that they're a good team that they could do it but

they might not be as confident or they might not be as good as they think that they were coming into the playoffs. Skylar Thompson, a rookie quarterback, by the way, taken in the seventh round, taking 12 picks ahead of Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant. So it's funny how both of these teams are going in different directions here with the 49ers and Brock Purdy. But, Chris, what do you think? It's like the year of these teams are going in different directions here with the 49ers and Brock Purdy. But, Chris, what do you think? It's like the year of the backup quarterbacks this year. Literally.

Oh, my God. Fourth and third strings. And, like, I don't know if you could really say, like, you have a backup quarterback, you should be blowing a team out of the water because I feel like that's just not really fair because, I, 49ers are just bad example because that's all around. That's just an amazing team. But and we said this when we were talking about the Giants Eagles or the potential Giants Eagles game. It's you facing a team for the third time is really tough.

You already know what they're going to be doing. You already know what, what's coming at you. Like you just got to go out there and perform. And that's what kind of what happened with the dolphins. Dolphins already got the bills once already this year. And granted it was 120 degrees in Miami and everyone was collapsing at the end of the game,

but really the Miami almost sure Miami could have won that game if it wasn't for mental errors from Mike McDaniel or just anyone else. But, I mean, Bills should be slightly worried though. I said this on the fan box. I remember that. It was a potential Super Bowl fraud. And I said the Bills potentially, and that's if Josh Allen could keep the turnovers down.

And that was during a stretch of the season where Josh Allen was committing a ton of turnovers. And now he's given up about 20. I forget what the number was, but I think it was 20 or 20. I think it was 20 turnovers and it was a combination of fumbles and interceptions. I think it was, I forget what the exact number was, but it's a lot. That is a lot of turnovers to be giving up, especially this late in the season.

So Josh Allen needs to figure it out with the turnovers. And the Ravens and Bengals. Ravens, the only bad thing that they really had going for them was the fact that they had to use Tyler Huntley as their quarterback for the game. And Tyler Huntley has shown that he could be a pretty serviceable backup when needed. I mean, he's shown that he can win games. And the Ravens' defense was pretty healthy as well. So you take that into account, third time playing the Bengals,

they're going to be coming out firing, and that's what happened. And the Bengals kind of got saved by last-second punch out at the goal line for 98 yards for six the other way. But I don't know. Bengals and Bills should be an interesting one. I think we were saying earlier, Bengals were probably on their way to beating the Bills if the Hamilton situation didn't pop up, but never know.

All right. That is a good point about the bills with the turnovers that's three uh that was three yesterday uh the this past weekend uh i'll give i'll give josh allen credit that one of the interceptions wasn't his fault either because uh i forget who it wasn't the best ball in the world but i forget who the was. But the receiver should have at least tried to reroute a little bit to try to make a better play on the ball. Or I think it was the ball was in the air and he didn't really make a good play on it or something like that.

I forget what it exactly was. I have to go watch it again. But I'll give Josh John the benefit of the doubt for one of those, but that's still going to be a problem. Yeah, absolutely. And when he turns the ball over 20 times between interceptions and fumbles, he has 14 on, he has 14 interceptions on the year and add, uh, that's the regular season and add two of them, uh, this postseason. So that's a trend that you might get away with that with Skylar Thompson on the other end, but maybe not with Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes in future weeks. But CJ, what do you think?

This is kind of something that I mentioned earlier about division games being tough. That's really something. And it's something that I think we should consider. And another thing is how I said how in the playoffs, if you're like a higher seed, you tend perhaps to look past some of your lower seed opponents. And when you take that into consideration as well, the fact that it's a divisional game that's just a recipe for disaster and both teams of course did uh did win and i would say this is kind of where like the real test begins because now you you're not really the looking past anyone stage and this isn't a divisional opponent, so I wouldn't worry too much.

The only things I would worry about is, one, since he's O-line, got decimated against the Ravens, and two, the Miami Dolphins with Skylar Thompson lit up that Bills defense. So it's basically like two unstoppable forces coming at each other when you have the Bills less than stellar defense, mostly because of injuries, and the Bengals banged up O-line. I have no idea what's going to happen, but I would say that they're probably going to shirk off most of the struggles

unless one team just runs away with it. And I also want to point out as well, especially with the division games, I think you made a great point on the division games. You get a higher seed playing a home game and you're playing the lower seed and how you could possibly look past them. Great example, 14 and two Patriots, 2010 Brady's a second MVP year,

and the Jets handed it to them. The Patriots that entire season were just making them their bitch. Excuse my language, but that's what happened. There was one game where they beat them 41-3 or whatever it was on Monday Night Football in Gillette, and I think everyone was just expecting the same thing to happen. And then the Jets came in and gave them their lunch. Yeah.

And you also brought up a fair point that I've actually never thought about. But, like, when you face a team for the third time after already seeing them twice, like, that's going – you kind of understand what they're going to do to us in a sense. And, you know, if you perform well, then you might be able to play up to that competition, even if they might be a more talented football team. So that's a fair point. In all levels of sports, too, never mind the NFL or college or just any sort of – any league in general, even high school. Like when I was a junior in high school,

we played one team in the regular season twice, played them in the playoffs, and we lost to them twice in the regular season and beat them in the playoffs. So anything can happen. Yeah. Yeah, there's always that um but what i what i want to bring up is the team to be the most worried about is the cincinnati bengals because they are now missing three starters from that offensive line and if you look back to last year, they had offensive line issues then,

but it was more so from the left side of the offensive line was fine. The right side was the issue. So then they added Alex Kappa and Lyle Collins and Ted Karras. Ted Karras is still there. He's still okay. But Lyle Collins torn ACL a couple of weeks ago on Christmas Eve. Alex Kappa, high ankle sprain. It's unclear whether he'll be back this postseason.

Now they lost Jonah Williams, their left tackle. So you could realistically say they are in a worse spot with their offensive line now than they were a year ago when they somehow managed to look past it and make a Super Bowl. And you can clearly see with this Bengals team, they kind of live and die by their offensive line. When it performs well, they win games. You could see it earlier on in the year. It did not perform well earlier on. They had a lot of new faces. It took some time for them to really gel, and they were very iffy, very up and down. Then in the second half of the year, there was a stretch where for out of six games, on a six-game stretch, they only allowed seven sacks,

and they won seven straight following that. So, like, now you're losing three of your five starters there. I mean, and you're going into Buffalo, which has a pretty good pass rush, and you're going to Buffalo. So they'll be lucky if they get past the Bills here. And even if they do, it's still going to be a tall task to go up against Ryan Clark and Chris Jones and company in Arrowhead and try to outpace Patrick Mahomes in that offense. So like, yes, they were able to work with it last year,

but like number one, they were in kind of a better situation last year on that offensive line. And number two, they also had a much easier path. They had the Raiders, the Titans, and then their toughest out was visiting the Chiefs. So that was really it on that end. But if we don't have anything to add, would we be able to change gears here to Tom Brady? Yeah. All right.

Well, next, Tom Brady lost another playoff. And I think we lost Brian. Yeah, he said he has to go. All right. And I think we lost Brian. Yeah, he said he has to go. All right, well, next we have Tom Brady, whose future is about uncertain as it ever could be. And that'll be Chris's guest segment. That's next.

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So the Buccaneers did lose to the cowboys 31 to 14 and were eliminated in super wild card weekend the buccaneers have are reportedly to fire offensive coordinator byron leftwich they also intend to make a push to retain tom brady as well it also wasn't long ago they won a super bowl and also just this past season they finished 13-4. But, Chris, talk to me about Tom Brady and his future in the NFL. Well, I mean, you guys saw the game last night. That was probably one of the worst games that I've seen Brady play in the 22 years of living that I've been on this earth.

And, like, he was just missing some really bad throws. I mean, granted, the Cowboys' defense had a really stellar performance. But even when there wasn't a ton of pressure, like Brady wasn't even hitting a lot of throws. Like end of the first half, you're at the 50 yard line, Cowboys play and prevent defense expecting a hail Mary and Pat or Pat bucks have enough time to get one more playoff and get to the sideline. And the Cowboys were literally giving that to them and just simple miscommunication on like Mike Evans and Brady's part where Evans is trying to get up the field and then go to the

sideline whereas Brady's just except expecting a five yard out it's little things like that just simple miscues and misfires that just doesn't bode well for Brady's future, I feel like. Granted, this is one game, and he also had the most pass attempts, most pass completions, whatever. But the problem being is that what run game do they really have besides Leonard before net? Run game wasn't really a huge thing. They ran the ball eight times last night.

They threw the ball like 62 63 times brady completed yeah what was that 66 they threw they threw it a lot yeah exactly because they didn't have a run game and they all they had to do all they were worrying about was relying on brady and at this point in the stage of his career, I mean, I don't know, especially looking at that game and seeing how he's going to be on the free agent market, depending if he comes back to Tampa and looking at his press conference last night, the way he was addressing the reporters and whatnot, it kind of seemed like that it was either he was going to leave Tampa or just be done in general.

Yeah. So I'm a little back and forth. I'm a little back and forth on what he should do. It's hard to tell what he will do. But I definitely, just me, I definitely do not think, given his recent actions, that he should retire just yet. Because he just came out of retirement. And also, that cost him his relationship with his wife. I mean, you don't go through all of that just to leave after one season especially the abysmal

year that you had um the way i see it you either you either stick with the buccaneers and say all right let's figure things out let's regroup fix the coaching situation get the offensive line healthy maybe get some depth there as well or you head to the 49ers or dolphins if they'll have um just give it like you need like you're at the age where you need a desirable situation in order to succeed because you're just you're just too old in order to actually overshadow some some imperfections like he did during his new england days but that's that's my uh two cents on that but cj what do you think now i i don't know it just it seems like he's upset with tampa i mean i feel like

brady likely may have said to them if if you want me back, you're going to fire a left witch. But I don't even know at this point. I mean, it's very clear that he doesn't seem like his heart's in, especially in Tampa. And I mean, you know, he was engaging in tampering with Miami. And maybe Miami is going to have him after they killed Tua, basically. So that could be something. But I don't see him retiring. I see him giving it one, maybe two more years somewhere else.

I personally think Vegas. Because one, Vegas is going to need to appease Devontae Adams after they traded his best friend. And two, the Niners kind of have Purdy now. And if he's an emerging good QB, then you don't really want to anger him. So I just, there's a whole lot up in the air right now. Would I be shocked if he retired?

No, no, I wouldn't. But do I expect him to? Honestly, no. Like I said, I just, there's really not a lot we can say. It's all speculation. I would actually be surprised if he also went back to Tampa. Like I said, I think Vegas is probably going to be the spot where he'll go. And honestly, one could even say New England.

I mean, that would definitely be a long shot. But when you got Bill O'Brien possibly coming back and seeing the way that Brady played with Bill O'Brien during the MVP and Super Bowl years, they played really well. And Bill O'Brien can bring in or bring back that two tight end offense that worked really well. I mean, granted, it's probably not going to work as well with John O. Smith and Hunter Henry the way it did with Gronk and Aaron

Hernandez, but like, geez, might as well try. And it would be great to have someone like Brady or someone like Brady for Mac to develop with, too, even to back up. I mean, granted,

it wouldn't be the greatest idea in the world but shit wouldn't be the worst thing to try either and i don't think brady's gonna want to go to the raiders considering how shitty but sorry for the language but it the way that the raiders played under josh mcdaniels, and Brady's not stupid. He knows that McDaniels is not a good head coach. He's a great OC. He's a good OC. But head coach-wise, no.

Yeah. I suppose so, but I think too many bridges were burned in New England for him to come back. Also, Rob Gronkowski outright said he would be shocked if Brady went to New England. Also, Rob Gronkowski outright said he would be shocked if Brady went to New England. Oh, yeah. You know, so with the offensive weapons in Vegas, I could see it, but the offensive line isn't much better of a situation, if it is, than Tampa.

And also that defense. Oh, my Lord, that defense blew this year. Also their head coaching wasn't all that good. They're going to need a new... So if he does decide to go there, it has its ups. And it would be kind of closer to his hometown in California. But they would have a laundry list of things to improve on if they're going to contend with him. And I think the only desirable situation,

the only options Brady should ever have is a team that he could go to that could contend, not a team that is like, okay, let's stick around for a couple years rebuild um if they and so i actually i didn't and i didn't i completely forgot about this but i but um apparently i guess the the dolphins are committing to to a tongue of ilo 100 percent uh mike mcdaniel uh already has already outright said we're sticking with him and rightfully so because he's still a young piece and a lot of it was injuries so if let's see let's regroup and see how things do um how how thing how things do um when they're healthy if they can stay

that way um but the 49ers that so that that's going to be an interesting situation that it obviously wouldn't be a it's no there's no guarantees because they still have brock purdy they also have trey lance who they need to give more of a chance to he's their third overall pick you got to give him more of a shot and like if but, if they decide to abandon both players, then, and say, well, we'd be crazy if we didn't, if we didn't bring Brady in with this, this coaching, with this offensive attack, with this defense, the protection that he would have, he would thrive on that team. He would have probably his best, his best season he would have in, in years, maybe even including

those two, those two first Tampa years, because it's just, they're so loaded with offensive talent and they're, they're balanced. They're well-coached that would be his best spot. And he's always wanted to be a, be a 49er. He was, he was a Niners fan when he was growing up. So that would be the dream destination for him especially for his last two years you know he stays in the league for a couple a couple years contends maybe wins another Super Bowl and then he hangs it up but he better hang it up after then because you got a such a great career you need to end on a high note man yeah And the other thing too, I mean, you bring, uh, Brady to San Francisco and the, and there's so many similarities between Purdy right now to Brady's first year. Brady in his first year was basically doing the same thing that Brock Purdy is doing right now. They're

just doing enough to get wins. I mean, mean sure they had purdy throw 30 times this past uh weekend went 18 for 30 332 yards three touchdowns and uh 130 some rating but and brady wasn't really putting up the same stats but like i said right now all Purdy has to do is just do enough to get the win. And that's what Brady did in that first real year, the Super Bowl year. And that's kind of all they need him to do. And if they bring Brady in next year, then that'd be a good way for him to develop a little bit more. And that's kind of what happened with brady was that he was able to develop under drew bledsoe and end up developing into a better quarterback obviously

as the years went on but a really good veteran quarterback would be pretty good for Purdy, if anything. Yeah, that is a, maybe he could, you know, grow under him for a year. And like the 49ers have been a team that needs to, they need to win a Superbowl, man. Like that, that team is so, it's such a professional, well-oiled organization, and they've really made all of the right choices in the past you know five years and that's a team that needs a super bowl there i don't want to say win now because they're not old but they they're built to win and if you have that one last piece the quarterback that's been their achilles heel ever since ste Young retired. If they just have that last piece, they can win their sixth Super Bowl. And I don't know.

I think Tom Brady still has it, especially when this Buccaneers team was so dysfunctional this year. But Brady still had a chance at 5,000 yards if he played that full week 18 and and through for 25 touchdown passes to nine picks I don't want to say that's a good year because by his standard it's pretty bad but it tells me that he still has the potential if he's in the right system it's kind of just you're trying we're trying to ink out those last ounces of football that he has left in him. Third in passing yards this year, too. What's that?

Third in passing yards this year, too. What's that? Third in passing yards this year, too. Exactly. I mean, in passing yards, he was pretty much the same. And touchdowns, honestly, if they weren't so dink and dunk, why the hell did that you you if it ain't broke don't don't fix it you had in like i i'm not the biggest fan of bruce arians

but you had a offense that was built to go vertical to throw it deep or at least down the middle, you know, 20-yard darts. And they went to dink and dunk. And if they had just not done that, he'd at least have 30 touchdown passes, at least five more than he had this year. It's because Bowles is a defensive guy. I mean, Bowles is a great defensive coordinator. There's no denying that. But as a head coach, he's not good. And when you got a defensive-minded head coach and whatnot,

he's going to want to do things a little bit more conservatively. And saw that with Matt Patricia, obviously, this year with the Patriots. Just screenplay every other play and just not turn the ball over. And then once you actually go vertical, it ends up being a shit play and bucks basically had the same thing going yeah there it's like and i understand some form of conservative play you don't want to take too many risks we see the other extreme with bruce a. But at least it kind of worked. And with Byron Leftwich clearly in his year, they had some sort of conservatism. I don't know how I would pronounce that. But it was a good mix.

It was a good mix. That's the thing. You need a good mix. You can't just be taking your shots off of – like last night. You can't just be taking your shots right out of the two-minute warning when you're down 31-14. And granted, Mike Evans should have made that catch too. Oh, yeah, I saw that. You can't be taking your shots that late in the game when you're already down so much.

And the game's pretty much out of hand or is already over. You just can't be – you can't just be wasting your opportunities for the final minutes of the game or when the game is already out of hand yeah it's it's it's definitely a season for to forget for both the buccaneers and for tom brady either way though if you are the buccaneers you need to try and retain Tom Brady. You're a team that's built to win now, like actually built to win now. And if you lose him, you're back to the dark ages where you were pre-2002. So that's definitely something that they should prioritize. But I do want to move on because we are actually getting up there in time to our fan box where we asked. So we talked about a lot of about individual about teams in general.

I want to get more to some of the best performers, the individual players from Super Wild Card Weekend, because there were a lot of them. So that is next. This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. Here's Edelman broken up, and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football, and they're saying it's a catch. It's in. This is the Touchdown! reached the fan box portion of our show so we post a question filter on our instagram every monday and you can respond with hot takes questions and more and we will discuss it and give you a shout out on

our podcast respond to next week's fan box question to be featured on our show so the question of the week was which individual player put up the best performance during Super Bowl Super Wildcard weekend still a mouthful in its second season mention it uh mentioning it but it has been a week that's I kind I kind of like I kind of like the new wildcard weekend it was kind of I don't think they should keep calling it Super Wildcard though we're at just call it wildcard weekend it's too it's way too much to say and i i keep accidentally almost saying super bowl in fact i think i said that on our last episode i'll whenever i i give like my spiel right before i start i said super bowl i mean super wild card like just keep it just keep it

simple yeah um all right so going into our first responses we have a lot of brock purdy votes so connor fallon stephen parker and mal uh mallory kleppel and yourself chris kostich all said brock purdy and you added christian mccaffrey as well uh we can get to that in just a second but purdy i mean this is a guy who's been an underdog going into this postseason already, and he's showing out with over 300 yards and three touchdown passes, four total touchdowns. I mean, this kid is – I mean, he has a great system around him, but he's making his case. Yeah, and I said it right before the break, too, is that he just does the right things. He just does enough to get the win for his guys,

and that's all you really need out of a rookie quarterback that, especially if you're the last pick in the NFL drafts, that's all you're really looking to do. You're not trying to do too much. And that's kind of what Kyle Shanahan is trying to do. Don't make them do too much. Granted, like, yeah, you're going to have to make him throw the ball 30 or so times like he did this past week. And he didn't even need to throw the ball 30 times.

That's kind of just the way things were going for the Niners in general. But. Oh, yeah. Do you have anything else to add to Christian McCaffrey? So you said – I mean – Do you want me to say exactly what you said? We have it all typed out.

So CMC, nearly 150 total yards. Purdy does enough to get wins. We already – But 150 total yards. Anything – to get wins. We already reviewed. But 150 total yards. I think the actual number ended up being more like 135 or something like that. But regardless, I mean, dude put up numbers. That's all you're looking for from your top guy. If you're putting up numbers, he didn't have any touchdowns

or he had one receiving touchdown. But, I mean, he had the bulk of the yards, and that's what Christian McCaffrey does. And thank God he's stayed healthy this entire season, or for most of the season, really, for once in his career. And now he's on the playoff stage and he's performing. Yeah, and, like, everyone, even in the speculation on where Christian McCcafree should get traded

before he was traded from the panthers everyone was looking at the 49ers because they were such a good destination for him the run because they're they're built for run after the catch like the whole team is able to run and catch the ball and And that's something that McCaffrey does with his eyes closed. And he practically carried that Panthers organization. But he also, so there was also Diego Huertas who also said Brock Purdy, but he also mentioned Trevor Lawrence. And so did Ian Mulhern.

He said, Trevor Lawrence, regardless of the interceptions, Trevor, like Lawrence, I can't stretch this, uh, stress this enough. This guy had one of the worst halves, uh, of a post-season, uh, of a post-season game I've ever seen relative to their expectations, because I'm, I'm sure there's other performances that have been worse, but lower expectations. This is Trevor Lawrence we're talking about. First overall pick.

He's been able to drag this Jaguars organization with a couple of decent pieces. Christian Kirk is a wide receiver too. At least he has been for most of his career. And this guy goes from that to leading his team to a playoff victory in his postseason debut. Yeah, and I mean, the mental toughness on this guy too. And the craziest thing is that this dude has never lost on a Saturday, high school, college, the NFL. And it really looked like that too. I thought that when I saw that stat, I was like, oh, that's a good way to jinx him. And then 27-0 at the end of the first half or 27-0. Was it 27-0 at the end of the first?

I think – so I think the – so I think the – I'm pretty sure the jaguars got one touchdown right before the half which is why i haven't said they were down 27 nothing at the half um but regardless though like you throw four interceptions i mean granted two of them were really his fall and all this other stuff that that takes a toll on you you know you throw four interceptions in the first half your first nfl playoff game it's the second year being a young guy but geez that's hard to come back from and the only other player that's that did what trevor lawrence did was big ben a couple years back against the browns and that was a loss. And granted, they also had to have Big Ben carry the entire team,

and they still lost by two scores. But, I mean, with, in this case, Trevor Lawrence didn't need to carry the entire team the way, or he didn't need to carry the entire team the way that Roethlisberger had to do in that game. And Trevor Lawrence was able to overcome all that adversity and all those setbacks from the first half and just play his ass off. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this guy really just – I can't say enough good things about him and uh judging on uh barring however the jaguars handled his situation could become one of the better quarterbacks i mean he probably will we can mention this guy in the same breath as the likes of joe burrow josh allen and patrick mahomes in like a year

a year or two time of uh a year or two's time. Another great example of what coaching can do for a player too. You got Urban Meyer last year and he stunk. And now you have Doug Peterson. And, I mean, everyone has their opinions on Doug Peterson. I thought he was an absolute jackass, especially in the last game that he had with the Eagles where he benched Jalen Hurts in the last game.

Even though it was a meaningless game, you still – you play to win the game and whatnot. the last game that he had with the Eagles where he benched Jalen Hurts in the last game even though it was a meaningless game you still you play to win the game and whatnot I didn't think that Peterson was going to get another job after that stunt that he pulled and here he is with another job and he's redeemed himself oh yeah especially after he he like it's so easy to forget that that guy won a Super Bowl too and he's a good coach. He just made a stupid decision. He thought too much about how this was a meaningless game and he was looking after their health. But you still have to play to win. It sends all the wrong messages to your locker room.

But moving on, we got several Daniel Jones votes. Brian Sierra himself, uh, Nick Norman saying, gimme Daniel Jones. He's been underrated so long on a bad team. William Mantle saying Danny dimes and Isaac Zonana say saying Danny times or Saquon. He said, coming from a Finns fan, knowing that guy, he's big time fins guy but um yeah i mean he had the best game of his career and he's having the best season of his career so far maybe not statistically but you're seeing it with the eye test that this kid does have some potential yeah and that's same

same thing with daniel jones he just is doing enough to win right now because that's all he's looking to do. He's done so poorly in the past years. When you do so poorly in the past years and you've still got the starting role, you're just doing enough to try to win games. You're not looking to put up numbers. You're just trying to give your team the best shot to win. I was surprised that they brought him back to i thought they were gonna move on from him bring in a bridge quarterback

and start building around him for to find the next guy in whichever draft but it's worked out here they all that clearly all they needed was the coaching change and maybe they could make some adjustments in that passing game but he's doing the best with what he has. There's also, and this guy really performed, not just in this game, but this year. Eli Turner and Isaac Zonana said, Saquon Barkley. And this guy, I mean, Daniel Jones is doing what he can and doing all the things right just to win saquon is the guy who's not being conservative he's he is the focal point of that offense man

and we really forgot over the years with all the injuries he's been through about how much of a difference maker he is on that Giants team. Yeah, and the craziest part, he wasn't even the leading rusher. He only – I mean, granted, he only went nine for 53, averaged six yards carry, two touchdowns. And, I mean, it wasn't – couldn't say that's like his biggest performance, obviously, but you're getting six yards of that fricking carry. Like, I mean, that man, the ball. I mean,

I know you want to utilize Daniel Jones and try to give teams different looks. Daniel Jones had 17 carries, but can't really, can't really have your court. I feel like you can't just can't have your quarterback carrying the ball 17 times when you've got Saquon on the backfield. But it works. Obviously it works, but I don't know if that's going to work the same way

against Philly. Yeah, and that could really kill them at some point because, you know, if the quarterback gets hurt, then the whole operation falls apart. But 17 carries, 78 yards. He averaged 4.6 a carry. That's Daniel Jones. Saquon Barkley, he had just 9 carries. Because game script didn't really work in his favor.

It was a back-and-forth shootout. 9 carries, 53 yards. 5.9 yards a carry and two touchdowns. So on, from an efficiency standpoint, he was pretty good and he scored as well, which is, you know, that's, that's a game proof. That's a complete running back right there. He's game flow proof. He's a, he's game script proof and he's able to score touchdowns and he makes an impact even when it's not really a favorable situation for the running back, which is what you need. So our next votes were for – so we have a few of them,

a bunch of different ones. Other ones were just – there was Dak Prescott from Patrick Williver. Yeah, I mean, this guy had the best yeah best game of his career what did he have five total touchdowns something over 300 yards I mean like as soon as I ship yeah if you said that fan box like this morning, I would have said Dak Prescott. Yeah, he sent it like a little while ago too. Yeah, it was – and we posted the fan box at a certain time because we wanted to get this episode out here earlier because just for time constraints.

But, I mean, Prescott had an unbelievable game. And as soon as I jump ship on the Cowboys, they do that. Granted, it was against a Buccaneers team who's having issues themselves. But they go in against this 49ers team and from a talent standpoint they're kind of they're not far off they have they they i don't want to say i think my one problem though is like you look at the first five, six minutes of that game last night, and the Cowboys sucked those first two drives. Like Dak was throwing really bad balls. I mean, not horrible balls, but like catchable balls.

And, granted, he did have to deal with two drops for those receivers, but that offense did not look good in those first two drives of the game. So I think that would be the only concern. But I mean, looking at the way that they played the rest of the game, like they ended up playing the perfect game the rest of the way. And it's kind of hard to really argue with that. But when you look at the first two drives of the game, you kind of wonder if that might end up translating into next week.

But like I said, that's only two drives. And I don't want to get picky. I'm not a big fan of the Cowboys, but you've got to put respect where respect is due. Oh, yeah. So our next vote was Brogdon Hill, who said the o-lineman for the bengals so if oh he got jokes i see so if you think about the fact that they lost three of their starters and they still only allowed four sacks i say only because mean, if you lose that many starters, you should have more against that Ravens offensive front and you still win. So maybe you'll have a chance for next week. You

have a chance. You're still alive. You could get Alex Kappa back. And maybe if you survive that week, you get Jonah Williams back. No chance that Lyle Collins comes back with the ACL tear, but you gave yourself a chance to get healthier for the next coming weeks. So you're taking it week by week. And it sucks because I was rooting for the Bengals this postseason. I got a Joe Burrow jersey for my birthday. I just love the player. But it's a long shot to see them make it any further than next week. Yeah, I'd have to agree with that.

It's going to be a good one. It could be game of the year candidate, but you never know. It'll still be a close game i mean like it might even the playing field a little bit because it didn't look it didn't look pretty for the bills in the in the three quarters of a quarter that we got of the matchup between the two granted the bengals were playing at home uh but we have isaac zonana who has another vote and he said wilkins now i'm not sure if either of you saw during that game, but this guy, Wilkins, he picked a fight with Josh Allen, and Allen fought him back because he's a tough dude. No, that was, Josh, Christian Wilkins didn't even start that fight. Christian Wilkins was

giving him a soft block. He just has his arm stretched out on interception on i think uh i forgot which interception it was i think it was howard's um maybe yeah but regardless but regardless wilkins isn't doing anything and josh allen just completely goes mode and and starts a fight for no reason. Yeah, and he pushed Wilkins and then fell. He didn't even move the guy. And then his offensive line came to his defense, and it was the entire thing that just came at him.

And next thing you know, it's five on one, and they're all pigpiling on top of him. It was crazy. Our next guy is Ben Barrett, who said Brett Maurer, who is the Cowboys kicker, and he missed four extra points. He made his last one. So, I mean, I guessed on a high note there. Yeah, Cowboys fans can't be happy with him.

In fact, I know a Cowboys fan back home who has a special nickname for Brett Maher. Can't say it on air, but I'll say it when it's over. It's funny because one of my buddies last night had a bet that he would have under 7.5 points, and then he just kept missing extra points and he was like wow i was not because like cowboy is averaging about 23 24 points a game so you take that into account he's gonna hit four extra or three extra points hit a field goal that's that's uh six points so he was like all right i'm gonna hit the under and then boy did he hit it oh yeah all right and our last response was josh hool who said i gotta give it to hawkinson guy got guy caught everything despite the loss and i also have to give this guy credit because so he got he had 10 receptions for 129 yards which is great i also have to give this guy credit because so he got he had 10 receptions for 129 yards which is

great i also have to give him the most credit because he went from one team to another and he played a big role for both teams but to be able to transition from one offensive system to another and still be able to produce like it's just he didn't even skip a beat that's in that's actually pretty impressive and he he probably he had a career year and i would say probably top five this year i mean he he had a good year especially given the circumstances for this guy yeah yeah you definitely did all right but uh i do want to to ask you guys, who would you guys say is the MVP from this weekend? Ooh. Huh.

I would say. Because I obviously gave mine, or my two, if that, but haven't heard from you guys. I'd probably have to say, I'm trying to think of one that hasn't been mentioned yet, but I haven't had the chance to think about it. I would say I'd have to go with Brock Purdy too because, I mean, without competent quarterback production from that 49ers team,

they may not even make the playoffs this year. They were 3-4 to start this year, and they've won 11. They've won, what, 12 straight games at this point? I mean, it all comes down to quarterback play. If he doesn't play how he is, then they're not where they are right now. They're not even in the playoffs. We're seeing Seattle or something. Yeah.

And for the same reason, I got to go with Daniel Jones, as much as it pains me. Because they needed him to step up. They needed him to prove it, and he did. Yeah. That's simple. All right. I agree with that.

Well, do we have any other thoughts before we end the show tonight? This was a long one. Yeah, I feel like whenever I'm on, it ends up being your longest show. Oh, it could be worse. Trust me. Yeah, it's tough because it's hard to have short episodes, especially at this time of the year. I can't not talk about some of these.

I felt weird not talking about the 49ers blowing doors. And we still wound up alluding to it a little bit, but that just tells you. I mean, this is just that time of year where we're going to have a lot of topics. The length of the episodes usually go down. Um, as you know, once the off season hits, we'll still have our topics, but I mean, it's, it's easier to manage the time in the off season. Um, but it's, it's not, I promise it's not just you. We, we have, we, it happens all the time. Um, all right. Well, Chris, thanks for joining the show, Brian. If you're listening, if you're still listening to the show, or if you're listening afterwards,, thanks for joining the show. Brian, if you're still listening to the show or if you're listening afterwards,

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