The Fumblerooski Podcast - The Super Bowl That Nobody Wanted -Fumblerooski Super Bowl Special
Episode Date: February 8, 2025The Big Game is finally here! Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Chris Costich, and special guest Mike Whartenby of the Squawking Eagles Podcast give their picks and predictions for the Chiefs vs the Eagles. A...long with this, we give our picks for some Super Bowl prop bets as well as a Super Bowl Food Draft!
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Eagles and Chiefs in the Super Bowl that everybody wanted.
I'm Adam Wright.
You're listening to a Fumble Rooski podcast special.
It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet,
but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.
Welcome to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting.
I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros and Chris Kostic.
And we are on for our fifth annual Super Bowl special.
I can't believe it's been this long that we've been around and
have been doing these specials, but they've been fun every single time.
And joining us to cover our Super Bowl 59
special, we have Mike Whartonby of the Squawking
Eagles podcast. Mike,
welcome back to the show. Hey, it's great to be
back again. I said I'd come back
if the Eagles are in the Super Bowl, and here
I am. Eagles are in the Super Bowl, so
thanks for having me again.
Hell yeah. Nice.
This is a Super Bowl that's going to be
interesting to cover because
literally this same exact matchup happened
two years ago.
It's going to be interesting giving our game picks because a lot of the the some of the the main core from both
sides is still there now a few things have changed the um the chiefs have lost some pieces their
offensive style has changed a lot the eagles got a little better in a lot of different ways.
Their secondary is certainly a little better than it was two years ago.
And younger as well.
Their defense has gotten much younger over the years.
And they also, their running game, much, much better,
adding Saquon Barkley to a run-first offense.
And Saquon isley to a run first offense and Saquon is
thriving who knew but without further ado we're going to start things off and before we get into
our Super Bowl coverage we're going to get into want to do favorite Super Bowl memories so from
past Super Bowls we'll start with you. We'll go around the table and we'll
go back to me. Favorite Super Bowl memory. Take us down memory lane. All right. Well, as a biased
Pats fan, I remember back when I was a children, I was a freshman in high school, you know, in enemy territory. No offense, Mike. I
grew up nowhere. The Eagles people harassing me every day. And that is not an exaggeration.
And I will remember everyone's like, oh my God, the Falcons are so good. You're going to lose.
I'm watching the game and I'm just like, oh my God, this is awful. We're down 28 to three.
Then they score, you know know and in the towards the middle
of the fourth quarter it's like no i get my hopes up but it's doable it's a two score game
and then by the time it's ot you know it's 28 28 and i'm like all right no no we're winning this
like falcons have like no momentum then i saw you i'm jumping up and down running around and stuff
like my dad even just brought a confetti blaster, like just, you know,
one of those things where you twist and it fires out.
Oh my God, that was great.
That was just wonderful.
I was, I was happy.
Of course, our cat was like, what in the hell are you people doing?
But, you know, it was very, it was very, very funny.
And that was probably my favorite memory as far as that goes.
The game was, and he's in.
Patriots win the Super Bowl.
Brady has his fifth.
That lives in my head rent-free.
And as far as technically not a Patriots memory, I mean, it's about New England,
but I also went to the Super Bowl 53 victory parade, which was like their final one.
That was nice.
We got there nice and early. We were there in the front i still have like all the pictures
from it you know i got uh tom brady to look directly at me that was cool high tower pointed
at me so that was that was fun i i enjoyed that cj we've probably already been over this but i
was at the super bowl parade yeah the pummel was actually called. Yeah, I was at the Boston Common for that one,
and I also got myself front row.
And, geez, what I remember from that day is that was, like,
an unnormally warm day.
It was, like, 50 degrees, sunny.
And it's funny, too, because the Sox had won that season as well
and the parade for
the Sox, cold and rainy
in late October, early
November. It was kind of funny how
it kind of flipped for the
Patriots.
I would say that
coupled
with Super Bowl 51, I would
say Super Bowl 53 is probably one of my favorites
because it was satisfying, right?
It was one of the more satisfying victories, in my opinion,
because you just went to war with the Chiefs
in the AFC Championship game.
And basically that entire season,
everyone was just saying the Patriots dynasty was over.
And then they just barely, ever so barely,
just got the job done.
Gronk ends up retiring the next year.
All around, probably one of my more favorite games.
One of my more favorite seasons in general. Stakes out to me a lot.
You guys have a
plethora of Super Bowls to pick from being Patriots fans.
I don't have that large pool
to take from. I remember the Eagles'
second Super Bowl when they were
against the Patriots in Jacksonville. It was a good
memory that T.O. was coming back after seven weeks after
breaking his leg. I thought the Eagles were going to win that game. They had a lot of
talent. They finally got over that edge.
They finally made it to the Superbowl after all the NFC championship
losses.
And,
you know,
they did not win that game.
It's too bad.
Uh,
McNabb is puking on his teammates shoes.
Too bad.
McNabb's,
you know,
that's,
he has a thing with,
with shoes.
He throws the ball into the ground.
He throws the ball,
people's shoes.
He's got a thing with shoes.
I can't say.
Yeah.
Oh,
Mike,
we got to tell you,
I don't know if CJRD did, mike we got to tell you i don't know if cjrd did but we got to tell you they're uh the all-time draft that we did from uh tuesday
okay all right uh so i guess my the most most uh the super bowl memory i have is the fact that
eagles won their first super bowl in 2017 against the new england patriots uh you know the philly
special is lives in my mind.
You know, I'm watching it with my kids.
My kids are all excited.
You know, the Eagles have never won a Super Bowl my whole life.
My dad at that time had never seen – hadn't seen an Eagles championship since 1960.
And so for them to win a Super Bowl for the city and for those fans,
that was a really good memory for me.
And I won't ever forget that first Super Bowl.
I'm surprised you didn't pick the Philly special.
I really thought you were going to pick it.
I'm like, man, we have to.
It was a great play, but it wasn't the most special.
It was just the whole game itself was the special win.
That was the special win.
It wasn't just that one play.
I still have no idea how Nick Foles was able to just sell his soul to the devil,
to channel his inner Peyton Manning and just rip through every team in the postseason.
He had a three-game run.
That's all he needed.
I'll play Tom Brady, who threw for the most passing yards in Super Bowl history.
And still win, yeah.
Brady.
I can still play Brady.
I'll play him.
We'll get into that.
Yeah, but, you know.
Listen, I'm glad that we're on Super Bowl 52 because I want to start with that on my favorite Super Bowl memory.
You have to start at Super Bowl 52 to talk about Super Bowl 53, which was the most satisfying Super Bowl that I ever witnessed.
I know, Chris, you brought that up.
That was a heartbreaking loss. And I was too young to experience 2007, where they went 16-0,
made it all the way to the Super Bowl and lost to Eli Manning's Giants.
I was too young to really experience any of it.
I was just seven years old at the time.
Actually, eight, because technically the Super Bowl happens at eight years old.
Right.
But they lost that one in spite of Tom Brady having arguably his best Super Bowl performance
that he's ever had. Over 500 yards, he broke his own Super Bowl record from the season prior,
which was the most ever in a single Super Bowl. 505 yards, three touchdowns, no picks. And that one, I just remember that one fumble vividly
because I was watching that drive thinking,
I was thinking back to 2016, that game-winning drive.
I was thinking back to 2014.
You could just feel that it was going to happen in both of those ones
because the momentum was trending that way.
That's how it felt right before that fumble.
It's that this is all just meant to be.
They're going to get that sixth Super Bowl,
and maybe they win another Super Bowl down the road.
Maybe they don't, but that's okay.
He won his sixth.
It would have been a poetic ending.
And then I remember that fumble.
And I was just thinking to myself, this is not
supposed to be how it ends. It shouldn't have ended this way. And I just knew how teams who
lose the Super Bowl end up going the very next year. It almost never happens. Teams who lose
the Super Bowl never go back and win. They barely ever go back, let alone
go back and win. It's only happened twice before the Patriots had done it. And then they had a
down year. And then you had this new kid on the block, Patrick Mahomes, in our own conference,
paired up with Andy Reid, one of the better coaches in the game, and also had Tyreek Hill in his prime,
Travis Kelsey in his prime.
The Patriots were having a semi-down year, and it just felt like a passing of the torch.
It felt like the end.
The Eagles' Super Bowl LII win over the Patriots felt like the beginning of the end of that dynasty.
And then you get into the playoffs, and they won that Chargers game.
And I remember, and I was at that game, I got tickets for my birthday,
and I remember just listening to Tom Brady's interview right after the game, postgame, in the car on my way home.
And he was saying, you know, I know everybody thinks we suck
and we can't win any games, so we'll see.
They were going into Kansas City.
They hadn't been – that portion of the dynasty had not been good on the road
in the playoffs.
They had not been very good.
They'd been beaten around by Denver. They lost to the Ravens a couple of times in the playoffs. They had not been very good. They've been beaten around by Denver.
They lost to the Ravens a couple of times in the postseason.
They were a little choky on the road.
Their only road win was, the only road wins that they had was back in the 2000s.
Right.
Where they were kind of more of the underdogs.
It was the beginning. This felt like the beginnings. Right. They were kind of more of the underdogs. It was the beginning.
This felt like the beginning of the end.
And that AFC championship was fantastic.
Back and forth action.
The Patriots stepped on their throat early in the game.
And then Mahomes worked his magic to get back into the game,
go to overtime.
That was the best playoff game I've ever seen.
So to look at that Super Bowl itself, everyone talks about how boring that Super Bowl was,
and I agree.
That was a terrible Super Bowl once you got in there to face the Rams.
The reason I still believe that's my favorite memory is because it wasn't a game.
It was that one throw to Rob Gronkowski in triple coverage,
dropped a dime right before the end zone.
And they were able to, I believe it was one play later,
run it in with Sonny Michel.
They eventually take a two-possession lead.
It was a rock fight.
It was a defensive game where there really was no offense at all.
But that was,
without a doubt, they delayed the end of that dynasty for just one season off sheer willpower. That was not the most talented Patriots team of all they still somehow managed, just by sheer will,
to delay the end of that dynasty,
to fight off the next guy for just one season.
That's something that's special to me,
and I'm going to remember it for a long time.
There's my favorite Superbowl memory.
I was going to every single year I picked Superbowl 49 because that one,
that one was like the first one where I was legitimately all in,
like obsessed with football.
But this, this one is definitely, I needed to change gears here.
Yeah.
Super Bowl XLIX was like – I mean, for me, Adam, CJ,
like Pats fans of our generation, like some of us didn't actually experience the first three –
like truly experience the first three Super Bowls.
Like I was only four when they beat the Eagles in Jacksonville.
The only real
memory I have of it is on VHS.
Like a Cowboys
fan.
That's the only way Cowboys can do it.
Like a Cowboys fan, just less depressing.
Right.
I remember
07, but
2011 came around and that hit me like a truck,
like 11 year old me is throwing fricking like couch pillows around,
like just pissed off that we had lost the giants again.
And at that point I was like,
is this my life now?
Is this my life?
Like,
I'm just going to watch the Patriots just continuously
go back to the Super Bowl and be like the
fucking Bills.
Thankfully,
2014,
they actually seen the Jermaine
curse catch and I was
like, Jesus Christ, it's going to fucking happen
again. What the fuck?
I'm over at my buddy's house too.
My family was over at my buddy's house, too. My family was over at my buddy's house.
And at that point, we were having a bad run of games,
especially Pats games, where if we went to my friend's house,
just anyone's house but my house, then the Pats were losing.
And that happened like a string of way too many games and we took another chance at it and the germaine curse catch happens marshall
lynch gets it to the one yard line i was like yeah we're never i'm never going to anyone's
house ever again this sucks and then malcolm butler makes the play i was
like just run the ball run the ball run the ball what are you doing passing run the ball
the quickest flip of emotions i've ever had in my life oh yeah i can't imagine that i i didn't even
believe that he even picked it off to begin with i thought my buddy was just fucking with me
right he was like he's like jumping at at the tv he's like he picked it up to begin with. I thought my buddy was just fucking with me. He's like jumping at the TV.
He's like, he picked it off.
I'm like, shut the fuck up.
You're joking.
And then all of a sudden, the Patriots are all celebrating.
You know what?
What I will say is when I was younger, when I was 15 years old
and it happened at the time, I will say that I was defending that play call
just for years,
trying to just justify the fact that the Patriots weren't handed a Super Bowl victory.
But what I will say, like, look, now that I'm 25 years old, I'm looking back on it.
Like, yes, they should have run the ball.
But on a quick throw, are we going to pretend
that that ball was automatically
going to be a pick?
That was also a
fantastic play.
It could have also just been an incompletion too.
It would have been more of an incompletion
than an interception.
I just don't think you have
it's like with the Eagles.
You have Saquon Barkley at the one-yard line
but you decide not to do the tush-tush,
and you decide not to run Saquon.
You just try to do a quick pass like that.
It just doesn't make sense.
You go against your bread and butter.
Yeah, you don't do that.
It seems like they wanted Russell Wilson to be the Super Bowl hero,
not Marshawn Lynch.
Yeah, because allegedly, that's just speculation, but there was a lot of rumors at the end of Super Bowl hero, not Mark Tomlin. Allegedly, that's just speculation,
but there was a lot of rumors at the
end of Super Bowl XLVIII that Russ
was pissed they didn't get MVP
and I think they wanted to avoid that again,
which wouldn't shock me.
Yeah, but Malcolm Smith balled out.
Oh yeah, no, no, he did, he did,
but tell that to Russ, not me.
But if that, I haven't looked at the box score from that Super Bowl,
but even if he gets that touchdown pass, does he get Super Bowl MVP?
I'm just thinking out loud here.
I don't know.
I haven't looked enough at his stats from that game.
All right.
Before we move on, should we tell uh can we give our
all-time drafts for the yeah let's hear it let's hear it we want to move on i want to i want to
see eagle's side yeah no just the eagle side i want to see who mike thinks won uh this one uh so for cj's team uh mcnab leshawn mccoy to dallas goddard uh by the way we're
quarterback the snake draft snake draft quarterback running back wide receiver tight
end one o line one dt one edge one linebacker one corner one safety all right all right mcnabb shady to goddard uh jason kelsey jerome brown for his dt
reggie white as his edge rusher jeremiah trotter uh for his linebacker eric allen for his
cornerback shout out just got into the hall of fame yeah uh malcolm jenkins as a safety. My team, Randall Cunningham, Saquon,
which could be a potential toss-up because of Brian Westbrook.
Deshaun Jackson, Zach Ertz, Jason Peters.
I went Fletcher Cox as my DT.
Trent Cole as the edge.
Chuck Benerik as my linebacker
I couldn't think of any other corners for the Eagles
So I want a Sante Samuel
Your Patriot guy
I love the Sante Samuel
Mr. Pickstick
And Brian Dawkins as my safety
That's nice, that's a good pick
These are good teams
Who won though? Who won that? It's a good pick. These are good teams. Good teams. Yeah. Who won, though?
Who won that?
It's a toss.
Like, you know, Randall Cunningham, probably the first ever kind of mobile quarterback that the Eagles had.
And kind of what the NFL had.
And Don McNabb is a link to that.
But Don McNabb, you know, he,
I don't think he could,
he couldn't really win those big games.
He always threw the ball on the ground.
Like I have a very,
if you listen to our podcast, I have a very negative tone towards Donovan McNabb.
And so it's,
it's,
I really,
I am not about Donovan McNabb.
So I would have to pick Chris's team with.
Yeah. Let's go. Not about Donovan McNabb. So I would have to pick Chris's team with Randall Cunningham. Yeah!
Let's go.
Because he has got Saquon.
You have a running option of Saquon and Randall Cunningham?
You can't beat that.
You can't beat that.
Let's go.
Sorry, CJ.
No, it's fine.
Chris did mention Westbrook, and Westbrook was one of my favorite Eagles.
And so, yeah, I'm going to have to go with that.
Trust me.
He didn't even have Westbrook.
I know, but he mentioned him.
As long as he's in the conversation, I'm good with that.
No, that was a tough pick for me because CJ picked.
So, no, I actually picked the running backs first because we did it by position.
But I was like, damn, I want to go Saquon or Westbrook.
I really like Shady.
I don't know.
No, you can't go wrong with any three of those guys.
Yeah.
All right.
Super Bowl prop bets are next.
This is the Fubba Ruski podcast.
It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.
Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski podcast for our fifth annual Super Bowl special.
I'm Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Chris Kostic.
Special guest, Mike Wharton-Bee of the Squawking Eagles podcast.
And another year, another Super Bowl special, and more Super Bowl prop bets.
And like every year, we're going to start off with one of the most common ones which is
so the Gatorade bath for the game-winning head coach is always
for uh the the they always get the uh the Gatorade bath treatment, which is English.
So the question is, what everybody's thinking on their minds.
What color is the Gatorade going to be?
So before I toss it to you guys, I'll give you some odds on what it is. According to BetMGM, apparently yellow slash green is minus 165. Apparently Yellow Slash green
Is minus 165
That's the lead
That's the highest odds to win
Purple is plus 300
Orange is plus 500
Red or pink is plus 700
Blue is plus 800
My only problem is purple
Is it's already been picked.
It's purple's already gotten it twice in a row.
Oh,
wow.
I was going to say that because I had purple last year too.
And before you think,
oh,
well,
the chiefs also won twice in a row.
So maybe it'll be three times in a row and the chiefs just love purple.
Well,
in 2022 and 21 blue was blue happened twice in a row.
Okay. The Rams and Buccaneers won those. So it wasn't two, it wasn't one team with two.
And in 2020, the Chiefs had orange. So the Chiefs aren't exclusively purple.
And it was blue in 2019. That was the patriots um 2018 was the eagles that was
yellow and the patriots apparently in 2017 they decided to be the no fun team and they actually
had no get right back there was nothing well that was that was a weird one because that was
overtime and they were trying to figure out if the touchdown was going to stand or not.
Yeah, Jules didn't think it did originally,
and he was saying to Bill, like, no, get all these guys off the field.
And Bill's like, no, they reviewed it, and then they were happy.
I remember.
Yeah.
No one was thinking about a Gatorade bath at that point.
Except people who were betting on it.
Yeah, except people that were betting, yeah. Like, legitimate like legitimate question like what does happen if that's not the case do people just
get their money back how does that work i feel like it probably and i feel like it'd probably
depend on the betting service if it was draft kings they probably would have fucked him over
i got i got uh some old work buddies that used to work for DraftKings, and they're saying that DraftKings is probably one of the worst betting sites
when it comes to that type of thing.
I'm on BetMGM right now.
But another interesting stat, so percentage of color on the Gatorade
from 2021 to 2024, it's actually orange.
It happened five times, 20.8% of the time.
So that's something to consider. 16.7% of the time it's been water. 16.7% of the time there's been nothing. Water. Clear or water. Interesting. Clear or water. what is this water boy we drink in each well
so combined in the last 23 years eight times eight times we've had either nothing or water
and five times we've had orange Gatorade. So, CJ, what's your pick?
Well, considering the fact odds, in my humble opinion,
mean absolutely nothing because, you know, it's shot in the dark,
give me blue, you know, that wonderful light blue.
Do you know why?
Not because of any empirical evidence,
because it is the best Gatorade flavor.
And by the way, why is yellow that lemon lime one? not because of any empirical evidence because it is the best Gatorade flavor.
And by the way, why is yellow that lemon lime one?
Why is that number one?
That is disgusting.
It's the original. That's your favorite Gatorade.
Just shame.
Damn you to hell.
I can only imagine.
I know my pick now.
I can only imagine
the players on the sideline,
they have to drink this warm-ass Gatorade
and
it's just a who's who.
They see orange and they're
like, they see a certain color and they're like,
fuck, this is going to suck.
Yeah. No, see, blue
is great. And you know
what? Not even just the light blue in general,
the dark blue is also really good, too.
Those are my top two favorites.
But either way, I think it is going to be that light blue.
I forget what it's called, but it's a wonderful flavor, truly.
And truly proof that not all is lost is humanity.
For my color, I went purple last year.
I feel like it's just going to depend on
Who ends up winning it at the end of the day
Like maybe if the Chiefs win
It's going to be purple again
If the Eagles win I could see it being orange
Yeah I'm going to go with orange on this one
Yeah I'm right with you Chris
My favorite Powerade Is red the fruit punch but since it's
not powerade it's gonna be gary and my favorite gary is orange so i'm just gonna go with go with
orange yeah i feel like orange is due at this point right yeah yeah it's it needs a time it's
time to shine it's time to shine yeah now it's happened shine. Yeah. No, it's happened the most. Yeah.
So I'm stumped.
But looking at the last time Orange was picked, that was 2020.
The last time before that, it was 2016, 14, 11, 2010.
It's almost like it's – So it's due.
It's due.
I guess it's due.
So it's Adam. So what you're saying is So it's due. So it's Adam.
So what you're saying is that it's due.
I've got a question.
I've got a question for you.
The Eagles,
I don't know if you guys know, they sold
snow from the Rams
game to fans.
Are the Eagles going out
and if they win the Super Bowl, are they
squeegeeing off some of that Gatorade and selling it to the fans i won't put it past them
and are you drinking it after you buy it are you drinking it after you buy it because no people are
eating this and i would not drink that but then again i know once when sometimes when people win they make
interesting choices in the heat of passion they bought the snow for 50 and they are eating the
snow that they bought people are eating what they'd be drinking the snow at that point because
i could imagine it's probably keeping the freezer freezer dry ice that's supposedly i sell the
they're sending it to everybody but yeah, yeah, squeezing it off the field and sell it. Do it. No. Holy fans handling dry ice.
That sounds fun.
I'm going to take yellow.
Yellow's the leader in odds.
And the last time the Eagles won the Super Bowl they did was yellow.
So I'm going to roll with that.
And it was also yellow when they won the NFC Championship too.
So maybe they just have, like, this one?
Yeah, this last one.
Yeah, this last one, it was yellow, too.
All right, so maybe they just found their lucky Gatorade,
and they're going to go with the same exact one.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as far as the superstition goes.
I'm going to go with yellow.
All right.
National Anthem.
Over or under
two minutes.
Who's doing the National Anthem?
Yeah, that's a good question.
John Batiste?
I don't even know
who the hell that is.
The wrestler?
John Batiste.
I don't know who that is.
Never heard of him
I'm going to have to look him up now
I'll go with the fact that
since we don't know who this guy is
and I'm going to guess probably a majority of Americans
are not going to know he's going to want as much air time
as possible
so it's definitely going to be over two minutes
there's one YouTube video of John Batiste doing the National Anthem in 2017.
And the video is two minutes and nine seconds.
Boom.
There you go.
Boom.
I don't know if that's – I'm going to mute my mic,
and I'm going to do some further research while you guys make a pick
talking 2017 the eagles won in 2017 technically so
yeah i would it's it's all all lining up over two minutes
you know i i'm gonna go over to they and here's the thing. It doesn't really matter who's doing it.
Every year, like every year, like how, do we have a history on this?
Because it feels like every year it goes over two minutes,
or at least as long as I've been part of the show.
And regardless of whether or not you know who this John Batista feller is,
I will tell you that regardless of who you are,
you're going to want your moment in the sun.
You're going to want it to be, you know, to take as much time as possible.
So I'm hammering the over.
I'm going to say he's earned 20 nominations for the Grammy.
He's earned five awards.
Oh, so – all right.
So we don't listen to a lot of music, I guess, then.
We do not.
Or at least not, whatever he is.
All right.
After further review of this 2017 performance,
it was from the NBA All-Star Game in 2017.
He starts with a 30-second little piano piece,
and then he starts singing.
So really we're talking like an actual minute and a half of him singing, but
that's going to be that weird fine
line. When do you actually start the clock?
Do you start when he starts singing or
do you start when he starts
doing the piano shit?
Is he doing the piano stuff
this year though?
Yeah, that's the other thing.
That's a good question too.
Yeah, they got a wheel of piano out there
Wait, hang on
Maybe he's not doing the piano
If he's not doing the piano
And he's used to filling in the other time
That means he's probably
Used to doing the singing part quick
Yeah, so I think
This could
Potentially be an under
You know what, I'm going under I'm rolling with it I think this could potentially be an under.
You know what?
I'm going under.
I'm rolling with it.
I think if he's got the piano, it's the over.
But if he doesn't have the piano, we're going under.
Yep.
That's a caveat.
We got to know if that piano is going to be out there or not.
He's not Lady Gaga, though.
He's not Lady Gaga. So are they going to do that for him?
I don't know.
I'm going to try to do some more research throughout the show
and see if we're going to get a piano or not.
All right.
In the meantime, we'll move on to our next prop bet.
The over-under for overall points scored.
48.5 is the line.
I see a lot of scoring in this one.
I know both defenses are really good.
But I also...
This is going to be interesting.
Because both offenses are really good.
Both defenses are really good.
But how good are the offenses?
And this will be interesting.
CJ.
CJ.
This is tough because the Kansas City defense,
and especially the Philly defense, are really good.
But Mahomes just turns into a different animal in the playoffs.
I remember watching the Bills.
It seemed like every play just somebody was wide open.
That guy might be on the Bills' game plan more than anything
because I remember Kelsey just get open again and again.
And it's not like he was ever a good route runner.
They were just leaving him open.
As for Philly, you have that one-man wrecking crew in Saquon,
along with arguably one of the best, if not the,
probably one of the best receiver duos in the league.
And, you know, that Kansas City Chief front seven is nasty.
But Philly's entire defense, especially the back four i don't know like i
can see them getting the better of hopkins and company so either way i feel chiefs you know you
gotta factor in how they move down the field i can definitely see the younger guys like mitchell
getting a bit too handsy early on in the game. Maybe the flag comes out here and there.
Philly, if you're a Saquon, you just got to like run it right at Chris Jones,
you know, like take the fight to them.
Because I said this before, the Kansas City Chiefs defense runs on fear.
You know, it's like how they're more of a,
we'll terrorize you with our game plan with big names.
But what you got to do is like you have to take the fight to them.
Because if you show, hey, I'm not as scared of you,
they usually you can get them back on their heels pretty fast as far as offense goes.
So I'm leaning towards over.
Because even though the Chiefs offense isn't great, they're still going to get their wicks in.
And you know, Philly's offense is really high powered even though the kansas city front seven is good the back four is not and even though you have
trent mcduffie for kansas city he's one guy which means davante smith is probably going to feast
on jalen warren or jalen whatever his name is there Jalen Watson
I think that's it
wherever they have on the other side so that being
said I'm gonna I'm going with the over
because I had to like work
through it but overall I'm going over
I'm an American
and I like points
you don't like points you might as well be a fucking
communist
give me the over
so I can go two different ways here If you don't like points, you might as well be a fucking communist. Give me the over.
So I can go two different ways here.
All right. We just did a man 25 simulation and the score ended up being 47 to 45 in
Eagles victory.
That was a lot of points.
That was a lot of points scored.
And then I do a lot.
I do.
I use this NFL generator and score generator online
and I came up with a score of 34 to
10. So I want to go with the under of under
48 points.
Yeah. I'm thinking about the way each
offense is structured.
And both involve a lot of running, which means a lot of time in possession,
which means maybe you will have not too much trouble with moving the ball down the field,
but it's going to be time-consuming, which means you won't have as much time to score points.
I'm going to take a very, very slight under.
I think both teams make it
into the 20s, but only
one comes out alive.
Well, no shit, but...
For dramatic effect.
The right one comes out.
The right one will come out, too.
Yeah.
Certain Grinch-colored team.
Yes.
So we have two communists currently in the room with us.
Oh,
well,
well,
well,
listen,
I am a real American.
My,
uh,
my buddy does a model and he said,
uh,
his model has 27 to 22 Eagles,
which means the over would in fact hit.
Yeah. I hope the over hits. I mean, that would be over would in fact hit. Yeah.
I hope the over hits.
I mean, that would be cool to see a lot of points
and I hope it's a close one.
I hope it's not over and it's just like
one team scores 50 and the other scores like
three. If Philly
steamroll the Chiefs like
50 to three, I think
I'm in the Mike school of
thought where I think I can live with that.
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Super Bowl 48
was the
over on this one.
Super Bowl 48 was the over.
But that was maybe the worst Super Bowl of all time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Alright.
On to our last prop bet and then we have our next segment
race to 50 receiving units who gets it first cj go
i think davante smith because i was tempted to go with aj brown because the chiefs you know how
they are they play ball control football for most of the time. They rely on their defense stifling you early. They get out to a lead
and they just kind of sit on the ball. However, Philly is a high-flying team, a lot of talent.
And like I said, I want to circle back to what I said about Trent McDuffie, right? One guy,
I don't think he's going to be shadowing Brown, not Smith.
So I think I take Smith over Jalen Watson every day of the week.
I'm going to go Dallas Goddard.
No insight, no nothing.
Just going to go Dallas Goddard.
All right, Mike.
So you guys picked two Eagles.
I'm definitely on the whole boat with Devontae Smith.
He's going to be open.
They're going to want to take Dallas Goddard out of the game,
and they're definitely going to want to keep and contain A.J. Brown
because he did have that long touchdown pass two years ago in the Super Bowl.
He had a great game.
So I think Trent McDuffie is going to follow A.J. Brown,
and I think Devontae is going to be open. He usually is open.
As long as Jalen can see over the top of that offensive line, he'll get that
50 yards first.
Devontae Smith gets his first 50.
I'm actually going to pick a non-Eagle here.
I think the team that's going to win, because I think the team
that's, I think the team that's the most experienced in the, in the Super Bowl is going
to come out to a stronger start. Doesn't mean that the other team is going to win. I just think
as far as how the offense will run, the Chiefs will have the quickest start because they've been there, done that, literally now at this point
for the third time in a row.
And this will be the fifth time for a lot of this entire Chiefs core.
They've been there.
So I'm going to pick a Chief, and that Chief is going to be DeAndre Hopkins.
DeAndre Hopkins, the same guy that had less
routes and snaps than Juju Smith-Schuster
in the
AFC Championship.
Against the Bills.
Doesn't mean it won't happen this time.
I'm going with DeAndre Hopkins.
That's supposed to be what it means, yes.
Let's move on.
All right.
DeAndre Hopkins, I'm taking it.
All right.
Okay.
Next, we have our food draft.
We load our plate.
Five items.
We go around the table, pick one.
That's next.
This is the Fumble Whiskey Podcast.
It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet,
but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario for both
sides welcome back to the fumble ruski podcast i'm adam wright cj maderos chris kostich special
guest mike whartonby of the squawking eagles podcast all right so our second annual food draft.
So this did well last year.
We're going to do it again.
So the rules, we go around the table.
We'll start with me.
We'll go CJ.
We'll go Chris.
Then Mike.
And we start again.
Not Snake.
Just start again.
I feel like that's the most fair.
Do you want to do snake?
All right.
We'll do snake.
Yeah.
We'll each load our plate.
Chris, you got, so you have the updates on our banners here.
Yeah.
My plate, TJ's, Chris's, Mike's.
All right. Ready? Yep. All right, CJ's, Chris's, Mike's. All right.
Ready?
Yep.
All right.
Let's begin.
So I'm going to start off my all-time favorite game food, Buffalo Wings, with blue cheese.
I tried blue cheese once.
Now I can't have Buffalo Wings without them.
Give me those two.
Absolute elite combo.
For me,
I know this isn't high on a lot of people's,
but give me ribs, man.
If you've never had a game day
without chow down on ribs,
then you, my friend, have not lived.
All right.
Chris?
I'm going to go with Adam said buffalo wings
I'm going to go buffalo chicken dip
I could be very Philly
in this plate
I'm going to go very Philly here
so I'm going to do a Philly here. So I'm going to do a Philly cheesesteak
for my first
pick.
First pick is Philly cheesesteaks.
All right. You better do those.
Have to.
All right. For my next one.
Cheesesteak for a second one there.
Oh, I thought we were going snake. What the hell?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Snake, snake.
We didn't do it last year. Sorry.
Mike.
Okay, so I guess my next one would be Sliders.
Sliders would be my next pick.
A combination of a lot of different Sliders.
Nice.
All right.
So for my next one, I'm going to – Oh, that's not how a snake works, jackass.
Jesus Christ.
It's me next.
Yeah, you're right.
It's my turn.
It's my turn.
I'm sorry.
I'm looking at the circle here.
I'm looking at going around this square here, and I'm –
All right, go.
Give you some mozzie sticks.
I'm a whore for them.
Okay.
That was a word, Chris.
All right.
So for me, well, you took my troll sticks from me.
Thanks for that, buddy.
But I'll see you that and I'll say unto you,
what do you know about taquitos, man?
Oh, I just had some last
night. Oh.
See, they're good, yeah?
Beautiful. Just
give me that.
Alright.
Give me
some nine-layer dip.
I love
just loading up. You got the nachos,
you got some taco meat.
You have some cheese, some sour cream.
You can't beat it.
All right, you're up again.
My next pick.
All right, let's think.
I'm thinking I'm going to go with Doritos.
May seem very basic, but they are literally my favorite snack of all time.
Red or nacho cheese or Cool Ranch?
Okay.
Right, nacho cheese.
The purple sweet chili is go to, but that's just me.
Sweet chili is pretty good.
All right, so it's back to me. Sweet chili is pretty good. All right.
So for, so it's back to me.
Go with the old classic.
Give me a big old plate of nachos, man.
Yeah.
You know, you got, you got the chips by the way.
I have a recommendation.
It's a bit underrated as a nacho chip, but use blue corn chips.
If you've never had a blue corn chip, I recommend you do it.
They are just exquisite.
My next pick.
My next pick.
I'll go some queso.
Not exactly food, but I've been on a huge queso kick recently
yeah if you have a really good queso you can't go wrong with queso oh yeah
uh i mean at that point it kind of does turn into a food though depending on what you put in the
queso exactly exactly all right so do i go here it's my third pick. And we have, what, five picks total?
Yeah.
Do I go cheeseburgers here?
Do I go cheeseburgers with sliders? Would that be constituted as a slider, though?
I don't think so.
No, they're different, Chris.
They're different.
They're very different.
A cheeseburger and a slider.
Completely different.
They are very different, yes.
A slider is a very small cheeseburger. You could have multiple. You just said it's a cheeseburger and a slider. Completely different. They are very different, yes. A slider is a very small cheeseburger.
You could have multiple.
You just said it's a cheeseburger.
You just said it's a cheeseburger.
Chris, Chris, Chris.
All right.
Well, I have a question for you, and I'm going to jump to Mike's defense here.
Is a cupcake and a cake the same thing?
It essentially is.
No.
No.
No.
It's really not.
A cake and a cupcake are different.
They have the same elements, but
you know. So they're the same thing.
No, not really.
They're very different.
My point is this.
If you say this to someone.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. I did this
to spark something because we talked about it earlier.
I am not taking cheeseburgers as my pick.
God damn it, Mike.
I thought you were on my side here.
But I do.
They are definitely different items.
They are not the same items.
They're different.
I'm going to go with Philly pretzels with all the fixes with Philly pretzels after
I can smell spell pretzels cheese so my pick again you'd say we got non-linear dips got queso salsas. Let's see.
I got to go with...
This is a tough choice here.
Let's go with some chicken fingers.
Chicken fingers.
Oh, he stole mine.
Boom. Chicken fingers.
Did you already do your second one?
That was my second one, yeah
That was going to be my pick
Press this up
Shit
Where do I go with this one now?
Let's start
Where we start to get kind of into the nitty gritty of it um i'll go
i think one that i'll go like chicken sandwich
like a like a chicken salad sandwich or just like what is like a chicken sandwich like a chick
filet sandwich kind of thing yeah yeah something like that i'm kind of running out of ideas now
trying to remember like other like super bowl parties that i've been to where
but like it's my brain once you get into the once you already pick your your top picks then you're trying to
like fuck yeah yeah i know you know for mine you got ribs you got nachos you got taquitos but the
thing is i mean you can't with taquitos what about something a little a little more simple
something you know i mean taquitos are finger food what's something you know you can dip you know like you know what
you got you could go with fries but me i like to go one step beyond give me some onion rings man
oh good i love those so much a solid pick right there yeah okay I think my first pick I'm getting stumped as well cuz
I'm I'm thinking I think I'm gonna go with shrimp cocktail oh wow any sort of
I'm I'm big on anything seafood.
And anytime anyone has shrimp cocktail,
I'm right next to the shrimp cocktail doing...
Destroying it.
Destroying it.
Messing it up.
Doing ungodly things to it.
It is history. I am eradicating it. It is history.
I am eradicating it.
My second pick is going to be
deviled eggs.
That's gross.
That's a good one.
Usually it's a holiday thing.
Usually it's a holiday thing.
Usually, but Super Bowl is a holiday, right?
For us. For us. You know what? It's a holiday thing usually but it super bowl is a holiday right for us for us so you know what
yeah it's a holiday thing it's a holiday we bring out we break out we break them out we break out
the deviled eggs it might just be me but uh deviled eggs just make me want to puke yeah it's you take
a relieve of me you gotta it's yeah it true. A lot of people do not like them.
Yeah.
All right.
CJ.
Hmm.
Oh,
this is it for me.
Obviously.
Now I might go a bit out outside the thing here.
So I got ribs,
got taquitos,
got nachos,
got onion rings.
Those are great, but you know, they're very dry,
a lot of salt, a lot of grease, you need something to wash it down. What are we drinking fellas? Come on.
We can't. This is our plate. You don't put beer on a plate.
Right? You can put it.
beers already there bro all right okay beer's already there i was wondering if we were gonna
pick drinks all right all right good good you know what we this is we can do whatever we want
on our show well after this after this we're gonna we're gonna discuss what we're drinking
i was gonna ask you that too because I have a few things I need
to add next time I play.
Here's the thing.
For my Super Bowl party,
perhaps I'm done.
I'm done with baking
the ribs, heating up the taquitos,
creating the nachos, frying up the onion rings.
But the gang,
I got a big party. They're still hungry.
I'm getting my phone and I'm ordering a pizza for the boys.
That's good.
That's number five.
I was thinking about that one,
but I needed to think a little bit more outside the box.
Got to.
And you'll discuss it.
Pizza's essential, like for everything.
Like it's a great party food.
It's cheap.
It's easy.
Good pick.
For my pick, I'm going to go with
some loaded tots.
Loaded tots.
Maybe you sprinkle
some shredded cheese on them.
Throw some bacon bits in there.
Maybe you have some sour cream
on the side as well.
Maybe you don't. Maybe you just have good old ketchup for these t as well. Maybe you don't,
maybe just have good old ketchup for these tater tots,
but yeah,
a little tots for me.
I like that.
I like to toss here.
I just had those for breakfast yesterday.
So I'm going to go with a dessert here.
We live in where I live.
There's a lot of Amish farmer's markets,
a lot of Amish country out here.
So there's this, it's like a layered dessert that the Amish make.
It's amazing.
So it's more like a, almost like a Boston, it's like a Boston cream donut, but it's got graham crackers and pudding and chocolate covering over there.
So it's called a truffle pie almost, a truffle pudding.
So I'm going to go with the Amish dessert.
Just put Amish dessert on my plate right there.
And now,
we're supposed to talk beverages now. Are we going to talk beverages
real quick here? Yeah, we'll sneak it back
over and then we'll talk.
Okay. Alright, so
for the
Super Bowl, I went and I purchased
a Bird Gang bourbon
that is made here
in Pennsylvania.
So I'm going to be
opening that up during the Super Bowl.
I'll have that, but I also have
my Surfside iced teas because
you can't go wrong with a Surfside iced tea.
I got
an assortment of beers that are going to be consumed.
Those are my
three. Those are my three things that I'm going
to be having my beverages for my
plate.
Nice.
Hell yeah.
I'm just going to go with good old Wonder Boy for me.
Good old Cheers Banquet.
Oh, can't go wrong with Coors Banquet.
Coors Banquet out of a stubby bottle.
Nice.
I left it at my house last year at the Super Bowl.
Yeah, Mike, we were over at Adams for the Super Bowl last year.
I ended up leaving, like, most of a 12-pack at Adams' house by accident.
It's like, if you want me to finish it, then.
Yeah.
Oh, please.
I don't even know.
We might still have some of it, too.
If you still have them, then I will be such a happy camper.
Yeah.
They're probably flat by now.
Yeah.
As long as they refrigerate them.
As long as they refrigerate, you're probably okay.
Of course, banquets do not go bad.
Eh, fair. Yeah, that's, you're probably okay. Coors Banquets do not go bad. Eh, fair.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
All right.
Now, as far as I go,
you could go to the Coors Banquet,
your beer assortment.
I'm not that fancy.
You know what?
Just give me an Angry Orchard.
I'll be happy.
I love those.
You know, just Angry Orchards for the gang.
It's going to be great. You know, that's basically it. I don't know. I love those. You know, just Angry Orchards for the gang. It's going to be great.
That's basically it.
I don't know. I don't need fans.
I love them. They're great.
And also,
that's all we're having.
Let's just hope nobody underages at the party.
The drinking age should be 18 regardless,
but whatever. Go talk to your congressman about it.
Listen,
we can't do that.
That's illegal.
We can't distribute it.
No, no.
We would never do that, and I would never do that.
I just think it's wrong regardless.
Yeah, I think it's wrong.
If I leave a 12-pack on the table and I just leave it unattended and just one of my buddies takes it.
Yeah, and then that's their fault.
But the fact you're held responsible is a gross miscarriage of justice but anyway this isn't a politics show
i just if i leave it on the table if i leave something on the table unattended and without
my consent god forbid one of my friends takes one of my drinks hey remember guys guys. It's not my fault. We would never do that. You get caught. There's that too.
No, no, no, no.
I don't condone this.
He's right over there, officer. I didn't do anything.
No, no, no. You're not sending me.
Adam, you're back.
No, officer. I only had two in dog years.
Listen,
so
I got to go with Sam Adams.
I'm from New England.
Not born and raised.
Well, I was raised, but not born.
Where were you born?
Oh, really?
Oh, he's catching up in his basement. Nice.
The exact same area
where Derek Jeter was born.
I don't think it was the same
hospital. I don't know. That was his
hometown.
Anyways, I'm gonna think it was the same hospital. I don't know. But that was his hometown. So, um, anyways, I'm gonna go Sam Adams. Doesn't really matter to me if it's seasonal or just Boston lager. I just don't care. I take my alcohol as far as like, I don't have too much of a preference. It's much more so like, if's alcoholic i'll drink it and it's more so like just like you you drink it for the feeling that you get not necessarily for the taste like the taste
is bonus but you know like and also like obviously you gotta drink like you know um responsibly
especially you gotta put that out there you gotta put that out yeah yeah, responsibly. Of course, you got to put that out there.
Yeah, drink responsibly.
I just, I'm a social drinker.
I like to drink whenever I'm around friends
and I don't have too much of a preference,
but when I do, if you're asking me what I want,
the bartender's asking me, I'm saying Sam Adams.
Usually just seasonal.
So I'm going to read off these plates.
We made some pretty good picks.
We got creative here.
It forces us to get creative.
Because combined, like amongst us, 25 foods.
And you have to really think, like everybody's thinking about wings. Everybody's thinking about wings.
Everyone's thinking about chips, nachos,
buffalo dip.
You really have to think
whenever you're picking
things that aren't taken
yet in a draft.
Going over, we'll start with Mike's
plate.
Trying to put it in.
There we go. There you go. All right, there we go.
There you go.
Philly cheesesteak, sliders, Philly pretzels, chicken fingers, Amish dessert.
And for drinks, we got Bird Gang bourbon.
Wow, that's a tongue twister.
Bird Gang bourbon.
Surfside iced tea with an assortment of beer.
Yeah, I'm not an alcoholic.
I just like to have an assortment of beer.
Surfside is pretty underrated.
I wish more people knew about Surfside, to be honest.
My mom's been trying to sell me on that, but I don't know.
It's good stuff.
I know the owner, and so we're trying to get a sponsorship with them this coming year.
So we're working on it. Nice.
That'd be sick. Yeah.
They sponsor my softball team,
so might as well sponsor my podcast.
Yeah, like, yeah. Right?
That has a good ring to it. The Squawking
Eagles podcast brought to you
by
Surfside Iced Tea.
Yeah.
Chris's plate.
We have buffalo chicken dip,
mozzie sticks, queso,
chicken sandwich,
loaded tots,
and he's drinking
Coors Banquet.
Stubby ones.
The only way to drink those.
Yeah.
Golden bullets.
Chris's plate.
We got ribs, taquitos. Taquitos is going to be mine. My second pick was going got ribs taquitos taquitos is going to be mine my second pick was
going to be taquitos it's like high demand again we got a pick um we got to get creative with these
ribs taquitos nachos onion rings pizza for the boys we have to specify that for the boys. We have to specify that for the boys. Not just for me. It's not
just on my plate. I'm forcing
it on your plate too.
And you're going to like it. And it's the American way.
Yep.
We are Americans. We are not
communists.
And then we're drinking an Angry Orchard.
Pretty good pick. I like Angry Orchard.
If I'm drinking cider, then I'm drinking
Angry Orchard.
Alright. My plate. I like Angry Orchard. If I'm drinking cider, then I'm drinking Angry Orchard. Mm-hmm.
All right, my plate.
I picked Buffalo Wings.
All-time favorite game food.
It's going to be on my plate this Sunday no matter what.
If there's no Buffalo Wings on my plate,
then I'm probably not watching the Super Bowl either.
Nine-layer dip.
Doritos
Shrimp cocktail
Deviled eggs
And a Sam Adams to drink
I like that deviled eggs
Pick was a good pick I like the deviled eggs
I know you don't
But I like that one
I feel like
If we put this up for a poll on Instagram That deviled eggs could Easily be like that one i feel like i feel like if we put this up for a poll on instagram
that deviled eggs could easily be like the one that makes adam lose you know what we need to do
we need to put this up on our instagram and maybe we put it up as a graphic yeah who's wins vote
below oh that would be so much i need to make it right now cj make it i was just saying oh you're gonna
make it adam oh that's something i can i can make some graphics i don't make a lot oh i mean i know
you can no no no i know you can't i'm not saying you can't it's just i heard i'm gonna make it i'm
immediately like oh oh boy a new thing for me to do yippeeee. CJ, I taught you how to do
these graphics, and you
have now doubled me in
overall talent on how to make graphics.
You make things on the fly,
and the quality of it is
unmatched. It's unbelievable.
You know, wait. I can make something
if you want me to. I think that'd be cool.
Yeah, we'll see what we can do. We'll talk in the chat.
Yeah. Yeah. something if you want me to i think that'd be cool yeah we'll see what we can do we'll talk in the chat yeah um yeah i mean we should we should definitely i mean i'm gonna say my my plate's the best i think all our i think we're all gonna say our plates are the best but yeah i like how
mike's all i'll talk i'll talk about mike's i think mike's is very like when in Rome, it's very Philly-based.
That's great. I love that.
I'd pick, I would pick a lobster roll, but they're a little expensive.
Clam chowder. Dude, it's all seafood around here.
Yeah. A lot of seafood out there. I'll wash it down at the water bubble.
Alright. Next, we're going on to our Super Bowl picks.
Final picks, predictions for the game.
We'll do scores, too.
That's all next.
This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast.
It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet,
but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario
for both sides.
Welcome back to the
Fubarowski podcast for our fifth annual
Super Bowl special.
Adam Wright, C.J. Medeiros,
Chris Kostic, Mike
Whartonby of the Squawking
Eagles podcast.
Do you guys have fun?
That last segment?
I'm having a great time.
I certainly am.
It was much better than we did it last year.
Last year, we kind of put it together and we're like, let's see how this goes.
Also, I was hosting and doing the graphics at the same time.
That was a nightmare.
While trying to think about what food I'm going to put my plate oh boy that was that was something um while we're on the right before we get to
Super Bowl picks I look I I'm not saying I would drink Bush but they're old they're old commercials
or something else like they just have cool shit. There's nothing
that they have that says, drink my beer.
Just mountains, an owl
is in there, just cracking
open. It's bush
propaganda, man.
Are you saying you would never drink a bush
light? I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I'm not saying
that it's my first choice. I'm not just like, ooh, bush. I'm not saying I'm just not saying that it's my first choice I'm not just like ooh Bush
right I know Adam sent me some Bush propaganda originally the the Bush family wanted to name
their stadium Budweiser Stadium but the MLB didn't want to do it because they weren't using, I guess, product names to resemble stadiums at that moment in time.
And so they named it Bush Stadium because there was no Bush beer.
And then the Bush family said, will you go please make a Bush beer because now we're going to have that as a Bush beer now.
That was the reason why there's a Bush beer now.
Like, look at this.
This is actually amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like the mountains.
The mountains of Missouri.
The mountains of Missouri.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's Bush.
That is amazing. All right. Let's get on to our Super Bowl picks. of all the good natural taste that pours out. Yeah. Yeah, it's Butch.
That is amazing.
All right.
Let's get on to our Super Bowl picks.
Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans, the Superdome.
The Chiefs and the Eagles. For the second time in three years, obviously unpopular demand.
CJ, start off.
So I want three things.
Give me who wins.
Give me a score.
Give me your MVP.
I don't know, pressure or anything.
I just, oh my Lord.
It really, it's not really that much pressure.
It really should just be a very easy pick
for you to do that right now.
Easy.
Easy. Easy.
I want Philly to win, but I'm just numb to this,
and I think it's going to be Kansas City.
Because, well, I'm sorry, you don't bet against Mahomes.
You just don't.
And also, I've been kind of coy about this, but I can't anymore.
The league will not let him lose.
And I genuinely believe
philly's gonna be up by two scores late in the game and then every time they breathe it's just
flag flag flag like i'm definitely expecting phantom calls and that the only way to beat
kansas city is that you gotta play clean you do not leave anything in the hands of the refs
these 50 50 calls go the chiefs way literally every time
like they literally like josh allen got a first down and they just said hmm no but don't get me
wrong buffalo kind of self-destructed again but but you know regardless right i mean heck we'll
get back at week two you know there's that phantom pi call like there's just all this stuff where uh
they willingly ignored a raiders false start so that the chiefs could win the game they chiefs blocked a field goal against denver to
mr blatant off sides like you know it's just at this point i'm just accepted it because you know
travis is gonna propose to his boyfriend taylor swift and you know and then yeah they're gonna
like oh look at this but yeah no i'm sorry mike i want philly to win i do and i will be
even though i'm not an Eagles fan,
I would be the happiest camper if Kansas City lost, but I digress.
The MVP is probably going to be Mahomes.
I don't think he's going to have that great of a game,
but he's still going to be the MVP.
And as for a score prediction, it's probably going to be like 31-30
or something like ridiculously close
where they just like, you know,
like I said, Philly's going to be up by two scores,
and then flag, flag, flag, and then KC gets back in the game.
Chris.
Oh, also, did you pick your – I'm sorry.
Did you pick your MVP?
Yeah, probably Mahomes.
Or you know what?
Watch Philly win and the league still decides to give it to my homes because
like the loser can still get an mvp it happened once i think with like the steelers or something
like back in the day yeah we're talking once in a blue moon so i highly doubt that's gonna happen
but anyways uh in turn you know we've it's a repeat matchup of the Super Bowl,
so I wanted to look at the history of repeat matchups in the Super Bowl.
And more often than not, does the team that won the first time around
wins the second time around?
The only time that it didn't happen was the third rendition
of the Steelers and Cowboys in 1995 for Super Bowl 30 when the
Cowboys beat the Steelers to cap off the dynasty in the 90s for the Cowboys. Dolphins and the
Commanders, then the Redskins, they met twice in the Super Bowl. The Redskins got them the second
time around. Cincy and the Nin Niners the Niners beat them both times
Cowboys and the Bills
Cowboys won both times
Giants Patriots Giants won both times
Rams Patriots Patriots
won both times Patriots Eagles
Patriots won the first time Eagles won
the second time Chiefs
Niners last year
KC winning both times
so really you're only talking about Chiefs Niners last year, KC winning both times.
So really, you're only talking about two, three teams that won in the rematch.
One of them being the Eagles.
One of them being the Eagles.
Can history repeat itself again?
Yes.
Eagles are winning.
My money's on the Chiefs.
If it's a one-score game going into the fourth quarter,
the Chiefs are going to win, unfortunately.
But that's, yeah, Adam, that's my... Who are you picking?
You're saying if it's a one-score,
then you can't, none of these half measures,
just go all in.
I live in a half measure.
I'm going to Eagles, but I'm still putting my money on the Chiefs.
I'm just in case.
Just in case they do happen to win, I'll win some money,
but I'm also going to take the fall for everyone and bet the Chiefs
so the Chiefs can fucking lose.
Thanks, Chris.
So there's a lot of things going, like Chris was saying, lose. Thanks, Chris.
There's a lot of things going, like Chris was saying, how
usually the team that's coming back
and facing the same team they lost to, they're going to lose.
But like I said, the Eagles did
overcome and beat the Patriots.
Jalen Hurts is
making, after losing his first appearance
in the Super Bowl, he broke a record of 19
appearances. So he broke a record of 19 appearances.
So he broke a record of coming back to the Super Bowl after losing his first one.
The Eagles are going back to New Orleans where they lost their first Super Bowl.
So in 1980, they lost to the Raiders in New Orleans.
So they're going back.
So this is another opportunity to defend that and to change that history.
And it's also Saquon Barkley and Cooper DeGene's birthday on Sunday.
So the Eagles do not want to ruin that birthday celebration for those two guys. The Eagles are definitely
winning this game. They are the better team.
They are the more talented team at this point.
The Chiefs are a good team.
They find ways to win, but they are not going to find a way to win,
even with the referees on their side.
They are not going to find a way to win.
And I see a score, like I said earlier, I see a score of 34-10
with Jalen Hurts being our MVP.
I just hope that the Eagles don't do what
every other team does. It comes down to a big-time play
and the Eagles decide to run a play that leaves it up to the refs.
If that happens, then they're going to lose.
I agree. They can't do that. The Eagles this year have not really been doing that.
They haven't let the referees been part of the game that way because they
just been had a big enough lead to do that.
So I think we're,
they're going to,
they're going to keep the game clean.
They're not going to have any turnovers and they're going to,
they're going to win this game.
It's like the crowd.
It's like a home crowd.
Take the home crowd out of the game.
Yep.
Yep.
This is a very similar situation than as it was two years ago.
And it's a very similar situation to last year as well.
The most talented team, it was the team on the other sideline.
That was the team that wasn't the chiefs the team that won was the team with the better quarterback and if there's anything that i
know about steve spagnola it's that he is very good at forcing you to play left-handed.
What he tries to do is he takes your bread and butter and he takes it away from you.
I think Spagnuolo is going to be very focused
on taking away the running game, at least limiting it.
That's what they did with the 49ers last year.
They're going to limit the run game, at least limiting it. That's what they did with the 49ers last year. They're going to limit the run game, and they're going to force Jalen Hurts to throw the football.
I'm not saying Jalen Hurts is a bad thrower of the football,
but is he better than Patrick Mahomes at throwing the football?
Mahomes versus Hurts, as far as arm talent, is a really, really bad matchup for Philly.
I'm going to roll with the Chiefs.
Split panel here.
It's a split panel right there.
Yeah.
I looked at this as a toss-up.
And so I'm not done with my prediction,
since I have to give a score.
I'm going to go 24-21.
I think it's going to be very close.
The Eagles will have a shot to win this game.
In fact, they may even lead at one point or another in this game.
They may be leading late.
But I think the Chiefs, they've been there.
They've done that.
They still have a very competent team.
They may not be talented around, but their coaching is as good as it's ever been.
Their quarterback is still in his prime, despite having a very down year.
I think a lot of it has to do with his supporting cast.
Offensive line is still solid.
It's okay.
Much better on the interior as it is on the edges.
Pass catching probably has to be the worst that he's ever had.
So looking at that, I think Patrick Mahomes is still a great quarterback,
and I think that's going to be what puts him over the top.
It's going to become a game of Jalen Hurts versus Patrick Mahomes
as far as throwing the football.
Spagnuolo is going to take away the running game, at least limit it.
24-21.
As far as a Super Bowl MVP, I'm going to go with Travis Kelsey.
I feel like, as I've mentioned, this game is going to be a little more of a rock fight.
It's not to say that they'll be bad.
But I think one receiver or pass catcher is going to get some yards.
It's going to be kind of like Super Bowl 53 where no one was really great,
but Julian Edelman had over 100 yards.
And that's what's going to do it.
Cool.
Okay.
All right.
Meister Bowl MVP, Saquon Barkley.
Oh, yeah, right. You didn't say say that yes good that's a good choice if they can't limit the running game and the eagles win i will fully concede that
i'm just saying that the chiefs the chiefs haven't let up 100 what 100 yards rushing all season is
that a thing so yeah but um saquon is not the same as everybody else. Yeah, but there was a – I just saved a post last night before I went to bed, too,
and now I'm trying to find it, and Instagram's not loading.
Here it is.
Saquon Barkley against the top-run defenses in the NFL.
Week one against the Packers, 109 yards and two touchdowns. Packers are seventh in the NFL, week one against the Packers,
109 yards and two touchdowns.
Packers are seventh in the NFL this year.
Buccaneers, fourth, 84 rushing yards back in week four.
Week 13 against the Ravens, top rushing unit in the league,
107 yards, one touchdown.
Versus the Steelers, six in the NFL, week 15, 65 yards.
And then against the Packers in the wildcard round, 119 yards.
Yeah, that Steelers game, they focused more on passing
because that week before they were complaining how they couldn't pass the ball,
so they decided to pass more of that game.
I do remember you saying that.
The only thing that I'll say is look at last season the chiefs last year had a
very middle of the pack rushing defense they were not that good of a rushing defense where they were
top one in top two in was passing defense and total pressure they were really good at putting pressure on the quarterback
and their secondary passing defense, but they were very, very middle of the pack.
And they managed to somewhat contain Christian McCaffrey.
He was very inefficient in that game, if you remember.
This run defense is a lot better.
So I just know that Spagnola has the – he has the potential to be able to lock down a running back if he really needs to.
And if he does that again, then I'm calling a Chiefs victory.
So I think they – actually, it changed my mind.
They led up 109 yards to James Cook in the AFC victor. I think they actually changed my mind. They led up
109 yards to James Cook
in the AFC Championship game.
I think there's something with that too.
Also, it's worth noting
I want to
fact check Adam here. Did they
do that? Yeah, but you have to remember
the 49ers did
not have a good offensive line. At least
not as good as the Eagle does.
That's what Spagnuolo does.
He's very good at analyzing weaknesses, and he's good at exploiting that. And a lot of times, it's basically just throwing your weight around
with a team that's maybe not as good, at least especially in that asset.
And that's, I mean, in that scenario, that's basically like what he does, one of his big assets.
But the thing is, they haven't faced an O-line,
at least not with this team like Philly, this season, you know?
Yeah.
So, cool.
You're beating up on Daniel Brunskill and Lakin Tomlinson.
All right.
Here's Lane Johnson and Jordan Mailata.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They have a good offensive line.
Also, wasn't CMC banged up?
I don't think he was banged up.
He might have been.
The way he beat me, he might have been.
I thought he was. Either way, I'd have been. The way he beat me, he might have been. I thought he was.
Either way, I'd keep going.
Yeah.
Listen, Christian McCaffrey didn't have an issue all season long
with the offensive line they had.
I wouldn't say they had a – the 49ers didn't have a bad offensive line,
but it certainly wasn't the force that it was for past seasons before that.
So McCaffrey didn't have an issue before.
This is a better offensive line.
I just trust Steve Spagnuolo to be able to do what he needs to do.
And he knows what Philly's going to do.
They're going to try to run the ball a lot.
And he's going to force Jalen Hurst to try and beat you.
It's not that Jalen Hurst can't beat other quarterbacks,
but can he beat Patrick Mahomes doing it and do it in the postseason?
That's going to be a massive question and a question that I would answer
tilting to Kansas City's sideline.
So that's overall, I still think it's a toss-up.
I still think the Eagles have a good chance at winning.
But I just trust the Chiefs coaching.
I trust Patrick Mahomes.
Those are the two factors that put me over the top for the Chiefs.
And they were at a disadvantage in talent in the last two Super Bowl victories that they've had.
And they were able to overcome it because they had the advantage in those two categories.
So that's my overall prediction.
It's really going to come down to who's the most prepared at this point.
And you know that the Chiefs are probably one of the most prepared teams
that you'll ever see.
So can the Eagles match that?
It's hard to bet against Patrick Holmes and the Chiefs.
It's getting to that point where it's like what they used to say about Tom Brady,
the one guy that in sports you don't bet against.
Well, now there's two.
Now there might be two.
So it sucks to say, and it does suck, but, you know,
respect for the Chiefs.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're a good organization.
They've drafted, and he knows his players.
He knows how to coach.
He knows what he's doing.
I think
this whole
free-peat thing will
come into a play.
Jalen Hurts looks
different and more
focused and more
engaged of
what's ahead of him.
Before the first time, you could see pictures,
very jovial, very smiley.
Now today, this year, very much focused,
very much stoic, ready to go.
He's not letting the spotlight blind him by what's going on here.
So I think you're going to see a different Jalen Hurts.
And he played very well in that last Super Bowl two years ago.
One fumble. I'm not even talking
about the penalty. It's the
fumble. That one fumble
changes the whole game.
If we don't see
a fumble like that, I think we're going to be
climbing some
street poles.
You better grease them
up. You also better
ship AJ Bell. I heard you better grease them up. And you also better ship A.J. Brown.
Well, they'll go away.
I heard about that.
I'll give you a deal.
You win this Super Bowl, we get A.J. Brown.
We'll work out the trade.
Right, right.
Okay.
We'll do it.
You're the first rounder that we trade in order to,
or the second, third, whatever they get to get your next guy. And then you get younger, we get
it's our turn. Got it. Got it. All right. That's all
the scheduled content that we have for today, but do we have anything else?
No, I'm good. No, just enjoy the game.
Enjoy the game. Have fun and let the best team win. Really
let the best team win, really. Let the best team win.
Yeah.
Which is the Eagles.
I hope.
I hope I'm wrong.
I hope my pick is wrong.
It's like, oh.
I guarantee you there's going to be at least one controversial call. Like, there's going to be one. And we all know which team is going to be at least one controversial call like there's going to be one and we all know
which team is going to be in favor of there's just going to be one probably in the fourth quarter
where it's just going to be like okay come on yeah i don't want it to be close i don't want
i don't either i don't because they always win one score games but i'll leave with this when you
have people like adam schefter saying something's not right all i'm gonna say is
where there's smoke there's fire and if you disagree you're wrong because adam schefter
disagrees with you right you know the eagles players are battling some sort of flu illness
this this week uh you know they're saying that you know i don't hear anything from the kansas
chiefs side that no one's sick of over there. Why is that happening?
What is going on with that?
These little things that are popping up
that would make the...
Why are the Chiefs pretty healthy and the Eagles?
They've been doing all the same things.
They've been talking to the same people.
Conspiracy theories or not.
I don't like...
The referees have come out and said
195 referees
are not conspiring to help
one team. I have to
believe that.
It might look like it, but I can't see
195 people wanting to
help one team
win.
What do they have to gain?
What are they gaining from it?
That's exactly what I was thinking.
I don't know. They're probably getting paid.
I don't know.
It would be such a...
If it ever came out that that was true
and that they were getting paid,
we may never see professional sports ever again.
It would look like basketball.
It would basically be like that.
Yeah, no,
no,
no.
Like I get a movie.
What a movie.
I'm going to say it's real,
but it's just like,
all I'm going to say is when you have like league people,
like Adam Schefter,
among others that are saying like,
I mean,
the thing is I wouldn't have had this view until voices around the league started
like saying something isn't right that's the thing you have somebody who's like well established as
him coming out and saying like what the hell's going on what was he what was he referencing
though what was he referencing oh hell it was a on. It was basically like the – hold on. Sorry.
I remember, like, he said something.
Actually, now I need to look at it.
Sorry about that.
No worries.
Yeah, because a lot of these times these guys will say things, like Nick Wright.
Well, he's not like an insider.
He's just a greasy little man.
Nick Wright is also just a massive Chiefs fan too.
It's ridiculous. i can't stand
he loves mahomes he loves lebron oh yeah stepher basically to walk back a tweak he made it said uh
about like how they were getting calls and stuff but yeah basically
yeah they you know they are addressing it i think a lot more more people are aware of the
oddity that helps the Chiefs are favored,
but I think it's not going to
come down to the referees.
Last Super Bowl against
the Eagles, the Chiefs, it did.
It can't happen.
Just let them play. Just let the boys
play ball.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Listen,
you hear about it from the best team all the time like i remember people talking about the golden state warriors and screw the golden state refs the patriots it's it's always the
best team and we just don't hear about it when a bad call screws the patriots or the chiefs
because no one cares i could think of two in the eagles patriots super bowl that still
make me tear my hair out that touchdown was not a touchdown that ball was moving
ball was moving and he was on the line doesn't even matter. He only got one touchdown anyway. No, it was out of bounds. Zach Gertz was a touchdown.
Okay.
Zach Gertz was a touchdown.
He established himself.
What?
What?
Zach Gertz established himself as a runner.
He made the catch, and then he was running for a little while.
And he ended up with the ball in his hands in the end zone.
Yeah, he did.
The ball didn't touch the ground.
That was like a catch.
Yeah, that was a catch.
Which one?
The Corey Clement. Yeah. Yeah, that. That was a catch but which one the corey clement yeah yeah
that that was on the line ball bobbling i can't believe that they let that stand um but well yeah
probably because they just want to avoid something if they said no then people would have just been
like oh the patriots got help again which but you also can't you can't you can't not blame coaching on that one.
And I look at the defensive side of the ball.
I look at the fact that your defensive backfield,
or more specifically your cornerbacks, you had Stephon Gilmore,
and you had a bunch of pieces of crap.
You also benched Malcolm Butler.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. You had Stephon Gilmore and a bunch of pieces of crap you also benched malcolm butler yeah that's what i'm saying you had stefan gilmore
and a bunch of pieces of crap you benched out malcolm butler your number two corner jonathan
jones got hurt the game prior i just they were throwing everywhere there was stefan gilmore
wasn't yeah you do realize the but all right i don't want to get into this debate but i'm going
to say is i don't know how much of a difference it makes
because Butler was having a down year
and Butler couldn't cover anybody taller than him.
And the entire year they were picking on him.
Teams went out of their way to target him.
Like I'm just saying, like, and Philly would have done the same
because if he was on Alshon, Jeffrey, or Nelson Aguilar,
people that are much taller than him,
he just would get mossed every play
because it happened the entire season.
And don't you come to me with this nonsense about,
it totally would have been different.
Butler, who was getting literally bullied the entire year,
it would have changed in the Super Bowl.
Trust me, bro.
I'm sorry.
I don't believe that.
I don't think it was as bad as you're saying.
Malcolm Butler is still, he may have had a down year,
but he had some games where he was still the Malcolm Butler.
Teams were literally targeting him, I guess.
So what was the difference between that year and 2016, 2015,
where he was actually a really good corner?
He was a number one.
What's the difference?
The difference is he's playing like shit.
Are you blind?
How? How is he? It's is he's playing like shit. Are you blind? How?
How is he?
More yards given, more touchdowns given, a fewer tackles.
What do you want?
I think it's a confidence issue.
Instead of paying Malcolm Butler what he deserved,
they paid Stephon Gilmore.
Yeah, then Butler went to Tennessee, and look at how he turned out there.
Okay, and?
Yeah, he's garbage.
That's why they didn't pay him.
Tennessee is a worse spot.
What do you mean, okay, and?
He would have been terrible literally anywhere else.
It's like with J.C. Jackson.
That was the only reason why he was good.
And all I'm going to say is Gilmore literally won.
How much of a difference is he from Eric Rly. How much of a difference is he from Eric
Rowe? How much of a question, how much of a
difference is he from Eric Rowe?
A thousand times different. Eric Rowe actually sucks.
Like he's actual garbage.
I will take Malcolm Butler
even on a down year with the off chance
that he's better.
No, he's better but like I just, I don't think
New England wins if they still put in
Butler though. That's the thing.
They probably don't.
I'd take one of you guys over Eric Rose.
Some of those throws that Nick Foles made,
some of those deep balls on Alshon Jeffrey with Eric Rowe on him,
if even one of those is incomplete, we have a different ballgame.
The Corey Clement touchdown may be different.
Where Malcolm Butler succeeded was obviously not his height,
but once the contact is made and he's trying to bring it down,
Malcolm Butler was relentless.
He would slap it away.
He would try to do everything he possibly could.
You mean the very thing that he struggled with the entire season?
Okay, cool.
It was his bread and butter.
It was contact.
Not in 2017, it wasn't. wasn't was physicality but even in the
off chance that he finds his own form even if it's not work if it's not working with eric
rowe you bring alcom butler back in that no no no like look i i agree i do like i'm not saying
like it wasn't bs it's just like there's this narrative that new england wins they put in
butler i just think it's a little more complex than that.
Maybe it is, maybe
it isn't. We'll never know. But I think it would have
made a big difference.
Everything aside, whether or not they would have
won, I do have a legitimate question.
Do we ever find out
why it happened? I was going to ask
you that.
Malcolm Butler was just on
Belger and Madsen and was like was like yeah i've just come to grips that
it happens i don't want to talk about it anymore i was so wow and he said it was a coaching decision
and that was it bill's not gonna say butler's not gonna say those like the only two people
that definitively know maybe patricia it's just like look whether or not we think we're the one that's
relevant at this point it's just like it just pisses me off that we don't know why
you might you might find out but not anytime soon i don't think it'll probably be in like
40 years you know bill was a real disciplinarian and that leads me to believe butler did something
i don't know what eric Rowe were both undersized.
The difference with Malcolm Butler and why he was able to overcome his differences,
to overcome that sort of difference.
All right, let's wrap this up.
I don't want to talk about Malcolm Butler anymore.
All I'm going to say is he totally did something, though,
but you still don't bench him.
Maybe. Only difference is
on some of those catches, maybe he
knocks a few out because
he's physical. He's relentless.
He's a pest.
He's the undrafted free agent
who has something to prove.
He had a down year, but
I think it would have made a difference.
That's it for today's Super Bowl special fifth annual.
Thank you for coming, Mike.
Thank you.
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