The Fumblerooski Podcast - The Weak Spot -Ep 355 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

One week before the draft and we look at the final two positions of our draft coverage: Wide Receivers and Quarterbacks. Shedeur Sanders stock rising a little bit again, but is Jalen Milroe a Walmart Anthony Richardson? Cam Ward overrated? When are we going to see the first WRs off the board? Is Tet McMillan too slow? Who are the needy teams for these positions? Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

We're almost there. We're almost there. We're almost at the weekend, which means we're going to talk about wide receivers and quarterbacks for this upcoming NFL draft. This is the Full Moon Rescue Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns.

Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fumbler Rewski podcast by Poweradee18 radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. You know who we are. You CJ. I'm Chris. Well, technically we're both Chris Yeah, but then that'd be really confusing if it's like right Chris, that's right Chris

Like every other minute Chris one Chris to see one see two So someone has to be the two though What if what if it's just Adam and we just throw all logic out the window? That we we start calling ourselves Adam. Yeah, just really throw himself for a loop. Yes, I like that. I like that a lot. It's a fantastic idea. CJ NFL draft almost here, of course. Today's Friday the 18th. We're recording on Thursday. It's currently just south of 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. So if Jalen Ramsey gets traded somewhere then don't blame us for not talking about it because well, it's Thursday, not Friday.

We don't know. We don't know what's about to happen. But all right, how about this? If Jalen Ramsey gets traded within the next 24 hours before this podcast, before this episode gets posted, I myself, because you guys won't be able to hop on, I myself will make a emergency recording. How about that? It'd be very nice of you. It would be. We're gonna take a look at wide receivers and quarterbacks since we are one week away from the NFL draft. Both classes are a little bit on the weaker side compared to the running

backs from what we did on Tuesday. Anti-dense. Anti-dense. So, I don't know. This is going to probably be more of a critical analysis from CJ today compared to a appraising analysis, if that makes sense. Yeah. So we're going to look at the wide receivers first. In terms of pro footballs, PFF's top wide receivers, Travis Hunter, Ted McMillan, Luther Burden, Mika

Agbuka and Matthew Golden. Travis Hunter isn't actually on there. We're just throwing him in there to be honest, because you have to assume that he's going to be a wide receiver. He could potentially still be a wide receiver, but PFF does not have them listed as wide receivers so anyways uh but yeah Travis Hunter Ted McMillan from Arizona extremely good uh six five very tall fucking receiver too six five two twelve Luther Burden from Missouri uh five eleven two oh eight Luther Burden from Missouri, 511-208, pretty fast. Mika Gbuka really, really stood out, especially in the playoffs this past season.

And Matthew Golden out of Texas also had a very solid season, especially in the playoff run. But when you look at the receivers a lot of them especially when you look at the guy like Ted McMillan a lot of them seem like they're kind of gonna drop towards the bottom half of the first round or at least when it started out I haven't really been looking at a ton of mock drafts recently, to be honest. I'm just going to say that right now. Understandable.

Yeah. I just know guys. Okay. There's a lot of guys, but that's when you're here and we're there. Now is it? Sure. CJ. CJ. Yeah, we'll just do the same way that we've been doing it the last three episodes. However, however many

episodes we've done regarding the drop positions, but you know, talk about these top guys, maybe not talk about, of course, Travis Hunter. So, let's probably keep it away from Travis Hunter a little bit probably keep it away from Travis Hunter a little bit. Hold on now we gotta we gotta give something towards Travis. Yeah yeah but I mean you know what I mean like. I know what you mean.

Yeah but yeah so we'll underrated overrated anyone that needs to leave the top five or should be in top five. Oh Believe me that you will hear so The bush so right off the bat, I mean, I think it's high time we the people are kind of Rip the whole band bandaid off here with Travis Hunter. The big thing is, is he a wide receiver? Is he a corner?

Well, I got news for you, for all you crotchety old heads that want him to pick a side, he's gonna be both or else he's gonna just not play football. His words, by the way, not mine, that's why I wanted to open this, why I wanted to open this. That's why I want to talk about Travis Hunter. I don't know if you people saw, but he literally said he will not play just like flat out will not play if he's not allowed to play on both sides of the ball. So we're just going to sprinkle on a little extra intrigue there

because that is what we do now, I guess. We love that. We love that. But all jokes aside, I know a lot of people see Travis Hunter as a corner and I understand it but how do you look at that tape? 96 catches, 1,258 yards and 15 touchdowns and say hmm yes that's a corner. Like really? Look don't get me wrong he has his weaknesses. His route tree is okay. He's not really that good of a blocker. And I think he's also sub 190 as far as weight goes. But you can bulk that up. That's fine.

And the route tree, you know, you can, that could be coached, right? Blocking, I feel that would be better when he bulks up. But the strengths, oh my god The he has And I and I'm not kidding some of the best just pure athleticism and body control That i've seen from a wide receiver in a long time This he has like near otherworldly just ball tracking ability. He adjusts, he shifts, he can just find the ball wherever.

Not the biggest dude, he's like six feet, I believe six one, like 190 max, but this guy, he's got a killer vertical and this man can run and jump with the best of him. And he just brings, and he just bring down the ball, handily. Just like, and the spatial awareness is insane against man and against zone. The man guys can't catch him.

The zone people can't adjust as fast as him. He's elite at creating separation. The hand-eye coordination, which has really been honed from his time at corner, is just nuts. Only three drops, three, all of last season, despite the fact he got leveled game after game. Also, while his route running isn't the best, what I do like about it are the adjustments he makes.

When the QB's under pressure, when the play breaks down, he can immediately find himself open. And also his time at corner I also think has served him well, because he also knows how a defensive back thinks, what a defensive back wants to do, how they act. And that makes him exploit any kind of mismatch and makes him a demon in the red zone. As I said, forget the positioning. He's not, like I said, not the biggest guy, yet he's a nightmare on jump balls.

And in fact, according to DraftBuzz, they say he's got an, and I quote, basketball-like vertical leap, which he does, if you watch the tape. He is the best receiver in this class, not like the other one here. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I've mentioned him before,

but let's rip the bandaid off, shall we? Tedaroa McMillan from Arizona. Solid stats, really good stats at that. 84 catches, 1,319 yards, eight touchdowns. Really good, really good stats at that. 84 catches, 1,319 yards, eight touchdowns. Really good, really good. Depending on who you ask, I know it can change sometimes. Yeah, I think he's like six, five, about 220. Look, don't get me wrong, right?

There's a lot to like about him. You can line him up as a power slot guy. He can be an X. That's huge. He runs these crisp routes. He probably is one of the most diverse route trees of anyone. He is the definition of a jump ball receiver. Ball tracking ability is insane.

Actually catches with his hands and not his body. and actually catches with his hands and not his body. I was gonna say very few drops. Is a bigger guy and absolutely can just bully around the smaller defensive back. And also his yards after catchability really isn't bad. Okay, now let's get to the weaknesses. He's slow. There are no two ways around it. He is slow, runs above 4, 5, 40, and I know it's ironic for me to say it's like, oh, but CJ, you don't play football. You don't run a 4, 5. Well, if I

did run a 4, 5, I promise, I would not be playing wide receiver. Like that's the thing. Here's the weird thing, right? It's just that it's also the agility, right? You have to be twitchy. You know, you need those fast twitch muscles to be a wide receiver, you know, to make your cuts, to change direction and do everything. He has zero twitch in his game,

like at all. You just see him lumbering around. And here's the thing, a lot of it's just the eye test, right? And if you look slow on tape, especially in college, you're gonna look slow in the NFL kind of like, I kind of like how if you look a certain way in college, that's just how you look, right? Or that's how you're going to be. For example, another receiver that we're going to get to, Luther Burden, looks small. And if you look small in college, you're going to look small in the NFL. Same thing with McMillan.

If you cannot generate separation in the Big 12, then you're not going to generate separation in the NFL. And while his routes are good. Good Lord the release and the first step, you know that initial burst is Non-existent which is weird because he's a bigger guy, but that first step literally does nothing against press coverage And I do wonder how he's gonna react when he has to play against physical corners, because, you know, there are some guys in the NFL, most notably sauce Gardner who play physical, right? And well, we can say that maybe he gets away with more, you know, with more holding than he showed. That doesn't change the fact that he's a physical guy. So what's McMillan going to do when he faces that NFL level physicality? Also, maybe it's just me,

but I'm so tired of the jump ball archetype receiver, these taller, slower guys that can win the 50-50 balls. Well, Quentin Johnston would like a word, but McMillan has better hands than Johnston, so maybe I'm wrong, but there is one weakness that I, that he has that I really, really don't like, and Chris, I don't know if you've heard this, heard this. He in an interview from a bit ago, I want you to know this. This is an Arizona wide receiver, Tedarrow McMillan, literally admitted that he doesn't watch film on his own time and very flippantly said, nah, I don't watch film. I don't watch football.

Now, look, he does it in the film room, right? He does it in the film room. He does it in training. But the fact that he's just like completely tuned out in his own time, which look, I get it. You don't have to eat, sleep, and breathe football to be a football player. But it was just how casual flippant he was.

Where he's like, no, I don't really watch film or watch football in my own time. It's like, that's gonna don't really watch film or football my own time. It's like, that's gonna scare a lot of scouts. And yeah, just say it raises motor questions, but it doesn't raise any undue suspicion. What did um, remember that interview Gronk did and he was basically saying the same exact thing but uh, during his time on the Pats but it did but obviously it didn't matter because he was fucking wrong. Yeah well that's that's the thing right also you gotta remember Bill the thing is Bill was gonna beat the film into him whether he liked it or not. Oh yeah.

And look it's not the biggest red flag, but on the flip side, when you're a veteran, I guess you can get away with that. When Gronk says it, well, it's Gronk, he's a future Hall of Famer. You are a guy angling to be drafted. And there's a reason that I looked at a mock draft that didn't have him going past 15. His stock is falling. Don't get it twisted.

Yes. That's what I was referring to, like right before you started up on this, that it's weird how you go on any big board and Ted McMillan's at highest three, aka PFF has him at highest third overall amongst all the prospects, but yet they keep dropping and dropping and dropping. It's weird because like, especially if you look at guys like Amika, Buka, Tepik Millen, like you would think that they would probably be higher, like higher touted, especially the way that they performed in the playoffs Matthew golden same thing You know these guys were extremely high performers, but yet they continue to drop Yeah

So I want to get to Luther Burden. Yes. I'm not crazy about him. I'm just not. He's just, he's small, right? And which is weird because he's roughly the same size, perhaps slightly smaller than Travis Hunter, right? I think he's like 5'11", back 200. But the thing is, there's an interest between being small and looking small, right? At the end of the day, it's just the eye test. This is something Adam and I were talking about. Like if you look small in college, then you will be small in the NFL.

Like I said, like he looks small and he plays small too. That's the issue here, right? Also, I know I sound like every other analyst when they were ripping on Joe Burrow because of his suboptimal hand size, but his hand size is like eight and a half inches. All right, well, that's different. We're talking about a wide receiver

compared to a quarterback though. Uh-huh. And usually I'm not those people that like freak out about the burrows and the pickets of the world. It's like, oh my God, whatever, but we do. Now for a wide receiver, putting you in the 14th percentile, that's not good. And don't get me wrong, this guy,

I'll start with the positives. He's twitchy, he's explosive. He has some of the best change of direction in the draft. He, despite his hand size, he has an 85.9, we'll call it 86% catch rate. But of course, the ball they play with in the NFL is bigger. So, you know, maybe we consider that. His biggest strength is easily yards after catch, where he gets

the ball and he just goes. He is. He might be a slot guy, but he's like the deep ball threat. This man keeps defenses honest and he takes the top off the defense all the time. Also, he can bring some serious energy as a punt returner as well, and the acceleration acceleration the ability to hit that Second gear that's what you like to see Then there's the weaknesses small we get it we get I like we're putting that aside for a second He Doesn't really get pressed a lot in college.

That's not his fault, but you know, because he's a deep threat, right? You usually don't press deep guys, right? Chris, you don't do that. Pause, I guess. That's kind of weird. But- No, no, no, just keep it going.

Just keep it going. Yeah, you don't press the deep ball guys, the deep ball receivers, you don't do that. Okay, that's gonna happen in the NFL, right? the I won't say bad, but it needs to be improved. He doesn't get thrown a lot of timing-based routes. He kind of just gets there whenever he gets there. And he relies on his athleticism. But the thing is, athleticism's awesome, but it doesn't mask technical flaws.

It doesn't mask any sort of skill shortage, if that makes sense. He's got the talent, but he needs to work on the technical stuff, the skill, right? And this is the big one for me. This is like, I could look past everything, but then there's this. It's the one thing you never want to see with a prospect. Off field concerns. Make no mistake, he is a diva. And not just like a wide receiver diva. Oh no, no, no, no, no.

He, I remember when Missouri lost to Alabama, he just gave up. Like come the third quarter, he was giving up running half-assed routes, like whining on the sideline, like this man has given up, and he's got a bit of history of it too. Not to mention, ugh, there are multiple allegations that, plain and simple, he's just been coddled his entire career.

That's really my issue. And when you see the head coach of Missouri, Eliya Drinkwitz, you know, publicly defending him day in and day out, and how all the coaches just like immediately rush to his aim and every bruises his ego. Yeah, no, he's getting coddled. And also he has, and I quote, a perceived big head. He's's very and I do mean very full of himself. And a lot of people think that the NIL money in college has gone to his head. And you know, Drinkwitz, his coach at Missouri

keeps going to bat for him. But oh my God god like it just It has the whole vibe of I think it was Shakespeare who said the lady duff protest too much Unless it wasn't less if I butcher that quote. I'm sorry I'm a communications major or I was not a literature major But yeah, I know that's what it is It's one of those things where if you're being this loud about it then chances are he probably is And

Like I Get I guess that's what it's gonna be. He's according to pro football network There are some coaches in the NFL that are outright concerned that burden will quit Just like on the team. And at the end of the day, it's just all about character. Burden, and you think it's just me, you think, oh, CJ, you're just being a stick in the mud. Well, I'm not. I'm not. Burden at one point, like in the early mock drafts, they came out in like November, December, you know, the NFL is way too early mock draft like that.

And even towards like the Super Bowl, he was considered a top 10 pick. And now many drafts don't have him going in the first round. Coincidence? Yeah, I got news for you. There are no coincidences. We've been over that many and many a time. And now I wanna talk about Matthew Golden, far and away to me, the most intriguing wide receiver. The numbers are fine, 58 catches, 987 yards 9 touchdowns he's bad we'll call it 5 foot 11 6 feet about 190 195

This dude is a freak Sub 4 3 40 4 2 9 the the 10yard drill runs a 149 putting him in the 98th and 92nd percentiles respectively He Here's the thing right he's a smaller guy, but he doesn't look small what like kind of like a Travis Hunter type, so that's good. He uses, obviously he could use a little more bulk, he's not a blocker.

And sometimes he does have concentration drops where he thinks about running before securing the catch. But the thing is, all these issues are coachable, right? And he did have a foot surgery in 2023 and a previous rib injury, so maybe that could scare some people. But it's not like he tore his ACL or anything. But here are the strengths.

This man is a burner. No ifs, ands, or buts, he is a burner. He hits the top gear like that, but he just leaves defenders in the dust. He has great tempo with running routes. You know, he can change speeds. He can read his own quarterback. He can get open. He's just, even though the concentration traps are there, he's got natural hands, and he can adjust to off-target throws as well. He's just, if I could sum up in a word, just explosive. Also, this man has some of the crispest cuts in his routes and breaks that I've ever seen. And I do mean ever. This guy,

like the way he just stops on a dime and can completely just sell every route, that's just beautiful. And also this man creates separation like it's nobody's business. Also, he's a competitor too. He's a dog. This man does win 50-50 balls too. So don't sleep on that golden.

There's a reason why some, but the only thing I said, but the thing is he's't sleep on that golden. There's a reason why some... but the old thing is he's raw, but then again there's a reason why he's going in the first round. And then of course I want to get to Emeka Egibuka. I'm a big fan, I am. About a 6'1", 200 pounds. A bit... only in the 69th percentile. Some would say it's a nice percentile. Some are turned off by it for the 40, 445, which is fair, it's fair.

Some people only see him as a slot. I believe he can play outside. He did have that ankle surgery and he did miss some games or the 2023 season. People are upset about his frame saying he's only average sized and his catch radius isn't exactly the best, but this guy's just a route technician. Probably the best pure route runner in the draft. Got natural hands. Great after the catch. Compet competitor. He's a great locker room guy, sharp route runner.

I mean, the only person who, I mean, the routes as a whole are fine, but Golden I think only has him beat in cuts, right? When it comes to selling the route, you know, with like your cuts and your breaks, it's probably Golden. However, I do think Egbuka does narrowly defeat Golden as a route runner as a whole.

But yeah, no, no, no, no, no, but make no mistake. Egbuka, whatever team lands him is gonna be lucky. Ohio State apparently just turns out receivers left and right. We have Marvin Harrison, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave. We're gonna have Egbukeh and Jeremiah Smith, probably circa 2027. Chris, you're muted.

I'm excited for Jeremiah Smith. I say that in a sarcastic tone now because my mic was muted when I said it the first time so now I'm all rattled. All right teams that need wide receiver so I compiled the list that PFF has and the list that PFF has is honestly pretty stupid. Yeah that tends to be the case since BFF Yeah, especially in the case of wires. Obviously there are some that makes sense, right? But then they have like Philadelphia when when they already have AJ Brown Devonta Smith, but really you're just doing it for death

New Orleans. Yeah All they have really is crystal lobby. The jets, that's one that makes sense because after Garrett Wilson, it's Alan Lizard and Tyler Johnson and Josh Reynolds. Like that, that's bad enough as it is. The Patriots. I mean, the Patriots did a solid job of picking up a couple of wide receivers. They signed Mac Collins, uh, for agency.

Same thing with Stefan Diggs. But after that still got to Mario Douglas, but that's basically, but after that it's, there's nothing left. Like you can live off of, uh, maybe Mack Hollins, Pop Douglas, and Diggs, but there's so much lack of depth in that wide receiver room for the Pats that they need to attack wide receiver in the draft. If they don't do it at four, they have to do it at some point. Maybe a round two pick. Or they trade back and do wide receiver. if they don't do it at or they have to do it at some point maybe around to pick or

They trade back into wide receiver. I I don't know man. I don't know. I just wear the hat I just wear this hat call myself a fan and hope to God they do something Um, yeah, well, that's how you get punched in the groin again and again and again. Yeah But this has been the Patriots wide receiver struggles have been 19 yeah since 2019 they finished dead last in receiving yards this season Panthers are another one, but they got Adam Thiel and Xavier LeGette that's more of a depth piece because at least in my eyes,

I see that more as you need depth because Adam Thielen is still performing at an extremely high level. Xavier LeGette has shown a lot of bright spots, especially from his rookie season. So at that point, you're looking for depth. You want that three or four guy to really help you out, especially Jalen Coker. Like he could be someone that can be a really good wide receiver three for you. So you're really just building off of that and trying to help Bryce Young out. The Giants are another team. So the I mean if you want to throw Philly in there,

the four that I've listed for you, all were at the bottom of the league in terms of receiving yards. Now with Philly, with Philly, they are a run-first team. So that's just, that's just gonna be expected. But, that's just gonna be expected. But Dals is another one too, that is listed as wide receiver needy

and I can see that because- Apparently they are looking for a number two is what I've heard. Yes, because now you don't have Brandon Cooks anymore, you just went to New Orleans or went back to New Orleans. Basically, after C.D. Lam, it's Jalen Tolbert, Cavante, Turpin, Jonathan Mingo, Paris Campbell.

Like, I like Jalen Tolbert, but he's more of a wide receiver. Three in my eyes. Not so much a wide receiver, too. of a wide receiver three in my eyes. Um, not so much a wide receiver two, uh, Houston, Houston's one that. Also catches my eye as well because, uh, you just lost digs. Nico Collins is a bit injury trouble. Christian Kirk is, uh, tank Dell also injuries tank. Well tank Dells out for the entire freaking season

So you're basically trying to find yourself a third wide receiver you also have John Metchi Just Watson Which not saying too much So your wide receiver room is kind of looking pretty messy right now. If you're Houston, Jacksonville, you're kind of in the same boat. You can almost put in the entire AFC South, to be honest. And then lastly, wanted to throw in the charges as well, just because the entirety of last season, we've been hampering on the point that they were a wide receiver one away from being really good. That's basically

long and short of it really. But, but they got Lad McConkney, Mike Williams is back after a, an abysmal tenure with jets. So I have her now, which speaking of the jets, they may need wide receivers as well, Cleveland and Tennessee as well. But that is your NFL drafts for the wide receivers. We're going to take a little break when we come back. We're going to look at the top quarterbacks. Go through the same motion as well. This is the Fumble Roosky podcast.

It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides Welcome back to the fumble risky podcast He's CJ. I'm Chris

Let's get into the quarterbacks This is probably where I'll actually do a little bit more talking than the last couple episodes Possibly possibly actually do a little bit more talking than the last couple episodes. Possibly. Possibly. Uh, the quarterbacks goes as is everyone knows, uh, Cam Ward from Miami, Schitter Sanders from Colorado, Jalen Milro from Bama, Will Howard out of Ohio State, and Riley Leonard from Notre Dame. Let's also throw in Jackson Dart from Ole Miss. He's coming in at sixth in terms of the PFF top quarterbacks. Cam Ward, he's basically undoubtedly going to be the number one

He's basically undoubtedly going to be the number one pick. We've basically known this for the last couple of weeks at this rate. And he was also on a live stream playing whatever. I don't remember. I don't know what it was. I was listening to something else when they were talking about it. And basically they were like, oh, who are your top wide receiver? Who are the best wide receivers in the league? And he was like, tomorrow, chase Justin Jefferson, someone else.

And then he said, Traylon Burks and Calvin Ridley. Well, well, well, I wonder what that could mean. Oh, the possibilities are one. And then they asked him top running backs and he was like Ty J Spears and Tony Pollard. Oh, wow. I wonder where cam ward could be going. I don't know. We'll never know. We'll never know. Yeah. Uh, obviously we're not big fans of cam ward.

We're really just not big fans of this quarterback class in general. Let's attack this one at a time. So Cam Ward, we've mentioned on and on again, this is a guy that he's got a lot of good physical attributes. He's 6'2". He's got a wide frame at 2'23". He's a bigger body and he's got a big arm. But there's always going to be the character issue, the bowl game, blah, blah, blah.

It's stuff that we've been hamper-, or at least CJ has been hampering down for the last couple weeks of it. Chris? Do you want to touch more on Cam Ward or do you? First of all, pause. But yes, also pause. But the only thing I challenge you on is the big arm. They keep talking about his arm strength. Like I just, I don't see it. It's one thing to have like a arm where you can at least push the ball far downfield, but he has zero, and I mean zero touch on the ball past like 40 yards. When he's really dialing up the launch codes

it just kind of arcs, you know, he throws ducks. I mean, it's one thing, like I said, to push the ball down the field, it's another one to just, where it just starts like wobbling, you know? That's my issue with Ward. Like I don't buy the cannon arm. I just, I don't, I don't.

Also, I'm just gonna come out and say it. The way that ranked teams and like contenders absolutely brutalized him in Miami, that's just not good. He just, he can't beat good teams. He's got ranked teams and like contenders absolutely brutalized him in Miami. That's just not good. He just he can't beat good teams and honestly, I wouldn't hate him and like late

round one or round two as like a developmental quarterback. but oh dear god. No. that he his value. I think is just being inflated. It is. It is. It's a little bit. Everyone knows that because of how important QBs are. also his arm.

He does have arm talent. I want to say because he can at least get the ball far downfield but even touch or not, he just relies too much on his arm he'll just say ah screw it my receivers you know or tight end be it or be it like Elijah Royo or Xavier Restrepo they're down there somewhere and also he had eight fumbles in 2024 he he's so He hates throwing the ball away He tries to play hero ball so much and he just keeps turning the ball over and Yeah

Also, he just can't read complex coverage rotations Even the simplest of disguises fool him every time and of course say it with me boys and girls the pop tarts bowl exit I'm sorry. That's the thing when you see him How he's like confident and stuff like I mentioned the workout video image to Dyrs Sanders How he's chirping should there like every time always in his ear. Everyone's like, oh, he's got confidence I like that and I'm the only one that says oh my god. He's so insecure See that videos not confidence. It's insecurity because the media tore him a new one After that pop charts bull exit where he basically just quit That was the real cam war but as I always turning it around. No, he's the body language MVP

he's going my fear is kind of like Luther Burden where he's just going My fear is kind of like Luther Burden where he's just going to get his first check and like stop trying. So there's that. Yeah. Uh looking at Chedurah Sanders. He's dropping dropping and dropping and then Mel Kiper comes out and says that he's probably number two quarterback at that point.

Mel Kuiper currently has him going ninth overall to the Saints. Shoulder Sanders is just such an interesting story. Now Colorado is now retired. That's the other thing. I don't know if you saw this CJ Colorado is retiring shoulders Sanders and Travis hunters numbers Yeah like Damon let's not wait five years. Let's retire him now

But that's that's not a case of nepotism at all To give you an idea to give you an idea hot take you can actually make an argument for Travis Hunter no no no I'm not I'm not saying that you shouldn't have Travis Hunter's number but I'm I'm saying like Cordell Stewart he was the a championship quarterback for Colorado his number is not even retired Cordell Stewart is a legendary quarterback for the Buffalo's and should our Sanders

Now granted should our Sanders also did break a lot of school records. I will say that I think he was like the most records for any player. I'm not sure does I Just think it's think he has like the most records for any player. I'm not He does I Just think it's a little disrespectful to the past anyways my biggest thing with Sadeur is that he's Gets very antsy in the pocket. I feel like he doesn't like to let things develop too much and He tries to bail out a little too much especially for a guy that's not as definitely like significantly not as fast as his father is or was I should

say. Fair, fair. That's one of the weird things though. He can scramble right? He runs our sub four seven forty which is good for a quarterback. It's just, this is where we rip on quarterbacks for scrambling too much, but I feel like Sanders doesn't scramble as much as he could.

Like he likes to stay in the pocket and I get that, but he's another one like Cam Ward where he would rather take negative plays than throw the ball away. He was sacked 52 times. However, I will say, well, he can't hold the ball for too long. It's kind of like a Caleb Williams,

like chicken and egg thing, where counterpoint, his line, like Colorado's offensive line statistically is one of the worst in college football. So I will give Sanders some credit there. But overall, I feel like a lot of the worst in college football. So I will give Sanders some credit there. But overall, I feel like a lot of the hate for Schueter Sanders just comes because of who his father is.

This guy can process defenses fast. His pre-snap reads are usually pretty solid. He's accurate too, a 74.2% completion rate. And it's not like that Bo Nix, screen pass, screen pass, screen pass rate. No, no, no. This guy has a mastery of the intermediate and even short timing routes. He has poise under duress. And what I like about him is the, it's his mechanics. And it's his mechanics. He has this quick, compact, steady release. That's what you want.

I am incapable of stressing this enough, Chris. I mean, that's really, I mean, that's what it is. It's like, and obviously because people don't like his father and whatever, I personally happen to like Dion. I think he's cool. I think he's a good guy. But you know his father's drilled the fundamentals into him and that is great. He's got

outstanding ball security at least relative to volume and over three to one touchdown interception ratio and he's a leader. He's got a good sideline presence, he's got a natural command of the huddle, and he has an understanding of the playbook. So I mean, the Shandur's Sanders hate, I'm not gonna lie to you, is getting a bit much. I do like him a little better than Cam Ward. I still think he's a late first round prospect, but probably will go top 10 just because of his position.

But I'm sorry, like I don't hate Sanders. Like, and everyone's just like, well, he wouldn't be as beloved without you know, the deal We wouldn't know who he was. I'm like no you'd love him more without Dion Yes, I think that would be I think that's fair take I think it's fair take I Will say though that he definitely doesn't help himself out It's sometimes in terms of that. I think he does sometimes embrace that hate a lot.

And look, and I get it too, but it's not in a cringe way. Like he's all shy here, he's like, ooh, I'm posting a picture of the Joker, aren't I bad? Like he's not like that, it's just, it's fair. Yeah. I'm not sure the Joker aren't I bad. He's not like that. It's just, it's fair. Yeah. Looking at Jalen Milro. I've never been a Jalen Milro guy.

Neither have I, Chris. I've always seen him as a Walmart version of Jalen Hertz. And that's probably being a little bit generous. Now, I will say that there are games where Jalen Milrow does step up to the plate via the wild Georgia game that Bama had this past season where Bama ended up edging out Georgia in that wild shootout. But other than that, not, he doesn't have a lot of outstanding games. And a lot of times when it comes to these big time college football games,

especially in the SEC, I think more times than not, you saw more of, wow, Jalen Milroy is really bad. I can't believe that he's a college football quarterback, but there's, there's teams out there that are willing to take a flyer on them. Uh, giants, for example, have them for a visit. But there's teams out there that are willing to take a flyer on him. Giants, for example, had him for a visit. They look pretty keen on him. It's gonna be interesting.

I don't see Joe Milrow being a top two round quarterback. Maybe even being a top three round quarterback. Definitely a day two round quarterback maybe even being a top three round quarterback. Definitely a day two quarterback if anything **** I wouldn't be surprised if I saw him drop the Saturday It's it's a guy that I wouldn't I wouldn't be too keen

on. That's for sure. I'm not sure. Yeah. You call them Walmart Jalen hurts. I got a better name for him to tell. Tiny Anthony Richardson. Ooh, that's what he is. He is tiny Anthony Richardson booming arm. But you know Anthony Richardson. He's just not built like him

Some people call him Malik Willis, I think that's a little too harsh personally But let's be real the accuracy is not there his decision-making is awful the processing speed just Where is it? I wouldn't know he bails all the time from clean pockets prematurely. He just relies on raw athleticism rather than, you know, working through progressions. And he just has like zero touch on the ball. And the fact that it's like, oh, some teams are infatuated with him, it's like, no, don't get drawn in by that physicality siren song. It's like, did you learn nothing from Anthony Richardson? I swear to God. I swear to Jesus H Christ himself. I'm going to lose my mind if Milro sneaks into the first round because I feel like there's a team that's going to trade

back up into the first, like the tail-ending grab him. Is it likely? No. Do I rule it out? No, I don't. I just I can't shake that feeling And don't get me wrong he does have that elite speed he does have that cannon arm and He's a competitor, right? He's a dog and people like him. He's a locker room guy, but he's just so raw That's really it yeah the ball. That's really it. Yeah. Um I want to pick up the pace here. So, we're going to go to Will Howard. No, Chris, Chris, Chris.

No, no, no, no, we're not. No, no, no, we are not. I'm sorry. I didn't want to have to do this but Will Howard, Bum, Riley Leonard, Mega Bum. Oh'm sorry. I'm If you don't draft me, it's like, oh my god, you're such a deed. Stop it Okay, okay I'm sorry. Like I was I wasn't directed at you. It's just like no PFF see and I keep saying I don't take PFF Seriously, this is why and look Quinn Ewers and not impressed Kyle McCord

He's my sleeper, but now The only but for me, well, I mean we gotta talk about Jackson Dart. I'm your sleeper. Yeah, you know why for the memes Chris. We're not talking about him either. It's literally just Jackson Dart. He's the I was hoping that you

weren't here. He's who for the record, I trust a little more than pro football focus. I was gonna say I I hope you were Joking about Will Howard, but anyways wait, huh? I mean Cal McCord. I was gonna say no, I'm not joking about Will Howard I don't like I like I like Riley Leonard. I I think he's a very tough quarterback I thought he was pretty good over at Notre Dame He does like

that. That's the other thing is that you're we've gone to the part of this order where it is extremely inconsistent. And that's there's no way around that really. The thing is Chris, Will Howard and Riley Leonard are great college quarterbacks. Emphasis on college. But yeah, no. The only one that honestly will have a Jackson Darts the only one where I can see his skills actually translating to the NFL. And that's a big if because he's also really raw. He's got good touch on the ball. He's just a natural athlete. He's got good improv skills. He has advanced understanding of play action concepts, RPOs, anything you want. He's just tough. He's quick

and he's a leader. He's a natural born leader. but oh my god. It's just what it was the fact that he gets bullied by elite defenses. The fact that he practically turns into a pumpkin against ranked defenses terrifies me. Yeah. And I don't know some defenses

don't even pass rush him. They run contained where they go out of their way to keep him in the pocket and he can flounder and he struggles move the chains against like the really elite defenses, which is bad, since he was in the SEC, he was in Ole Miss. And honestly, he gets really skittish in the pocket when he gets blitzed repeatedly.

And when he gets skittish, his ball accuracy becomes erratic. He's got a lot to work through, but he is for me the project guy of this class Yeah, I think he's got a really really high upside, but there are some people they're like, oh, hey What if he goes top ten which I say hey, no Yeah, I think the biggest thing with Jackson Dart is that he's one of those guys that if you end up having to go into a very lengthy pass game which pass pass pass pass pass that's where the production

falters but other than that I like him as a quarterback as well I think all the stuff that you just said I like as well. The deep ball accuracy is a little erratic at times, but that's always fixable. But looking at teams that need quarterback at this point, obvious ones, Cleveland, Tennessee, the Giants, the Jets. All those are gonna be probably looking quarterback. Jets signed Justin Fields this past off season, but they're probably gonna try to do something like they did,

like the Steelers did last season where they basically went two quarterbacks when, when both guys were healthy and Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. So if you're the Jets, you're looking for that. Cleveland, that's been the story for, oh, oh, too long at this point, especially with the Sean Watson tenure. Their quarterback room right now is Sean Watson, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett. So champion Kenny Pickett, but yes.

The champion Kenny Pickett and Super Bowl champion Joe Flacco. Tennessee, everything has shown that they're going to move on from Will Levis And right now their quarterback room if without cam ward their quarterback room is will levis Brandon Allen Tim Boyle Have you seen the the recent tick tocks have come out and it's like actually you don't have tick tock No, I know. I don't know if it's made to the IG reels I don't know if it's made to the IG Reels, but it's like NFL NBA CIA Coverts and one of them is Tim Boyle and it's a professional clipboard holder who only has a spot in the league because he's buddy buddy with Aaron

Rogers. Yeah, exactly. What does he do? A lot of Jack. A whole lot of Jack. A lot of Jack Giants. Same thing, really. And their quarterback room is Russell Wilson, James Winston, Tommy Devito, which. I think if you throw any quarterback, any quarterback from this draft class in with that quarterback room, it's so the it's the most entertaining quarterback room I've ever seen in my life. I mean, Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston and Tommy DeVito themselves make it the most

amazing quarterback room ever. True. Just for the memes, of course. Yeah. But yeah, but Yeah, that is the That is our draft analysis on quarterbacks TJ anything else you want to touch on before we end the show I have One other thing I just want to mention to all of our viewers out there that next episode when it comes out That's our mock draft guys. So we've covered all the bases here now We got the mock draft and then the episode after that. Oh That's our first round reaction. I cannot wait Yeah That's gonna be fantastic

All right. So before we end the show breaking news from this morning long time college game day Analyst Lee Corso Saying that he is finally retiring. Oh Thank God. I thought you're gonna say dad. I was like no. Oh No You'd think I was gonna say he finally died. Come on now. I was like, no, no, no. No. You'd think I was gonna say he finally died.

Come on now. I was so scared. I was like, no, I love Lee Corso. And for all, for those of us at home, or for those of you at home, I just wanna say, remember when he was covering the Harvard Yale game and the kids like, yeah, go Yale, go Bulldogs.

And Corso was like, not so fast, midget. Yep, I remember that. He's set to be 90 years old this next season, if he were to continue. Set to be 90 in August. And I believe what they're saying is that that first college game day game that they do will be his final one.

Incredible career quarterback and cornerback at Florida State through 53 to 57. And then was the head coach for Florida State in Georgia in 1958. Quarterback coach at Maryland, defensive back coach at Navy, and then was the head coach at schools like Louisville, Indiana, Northern Illinois, and then the Orlando Renegades of the USFL. Incredible career and an absolute legend incredible career and an absolute legend and was part of College Game Day or was hired by ESPN as an analyst for its Saturday College Game Day program in 1987 and since 1993, originated from the site of one of the day's big games. And him, Reese Davis, Desmond Howard, Kirk Herbstreet,

were the four main guys for basically the last 25 years. Of course, Pat McAfee and Nick Saban joining the course as well. But when you think of College Game Day, you think of those four guys for the last however many years. And Lee Corso has given us a lot of amazing moments, especially being most known for his headgear moments, as you mentioned, Harvard Yale being one of them. But yeah, it's a legend that will be duly messed in the broadcasting world. That is, that is for certain or broadcasting world, the

college football world, you name it. True. So hats off to him for an outstanding career, but that'll do it for us for this Friday edition of the Fumble Rusky podcast CJ said it best tune in on Tuesday night for our mock draft. We'll see but yeah. We'll see. New episode coming out on Tuesday at 730. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. Also have all our episodes available on Spotify, Spreaker, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Google Podcasts, and so much more. Be sure to follow our Instagram, Fulmarovskiy, underscore, podcast to keep up with the pod and the latest coverage on the NFL.

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