The Fumblerooski Podcast - To Tag Or Not -Ep 342 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

What's next for the Bengals as they look to extend all their star talent? Are the Eagles built to last after extending star RB Saquon Barkley? What's next for Davante Adams after his release from the Jets? Does Deebo Samuel acquisition put the Commanders over the hump? Are the 49ers falling apart after losing Deebo Samuel and potentially Brandon Aiyuk and Dre Greenlaw? Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros debate these topics and more!

Saquon Barkley receiving a two-year extension that makes him the highest paid running back in the NFL Devontae Adams gone from the Jets after just 11 games saving 29 million for the Jets T Higgins placed on the non-exclusive tag and Debo Samuel traded to the commanders all this and more this is the Bumperuski podcast it may not have always showed it in the stat sheet but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns someone's got to get that six or seven spot he's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides welcome to the fumble ruski podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting.

I'm Chris Kostic, along with me, CJ Medeiros. It's a pretty exciting weekend. A lot of stuff going on this past weekend. And today, marking the end of the franchise tag window. So, free agency about to get started up. That being on March 10th which is of course when the legal tampering period is also going to go on uh so another week till that happens so now's the time where a lot of different theories of where certain players are going to go is going to come up but for now we have this news from this past weekend along with today as well we'll start out with Saquon Barkley

getting his two-year 41.2 million dollar extension making him the highest paid running back in the NFL add on to an amazing start an amazing start to his Eagles tenure and And the Eagles end up rewarding him as a result of it. Good deed here by Howie Roseman. And I could kind of say that this is more of like

a how do we want to call it? More of, you know, you have Darius Slay and James Bradbury just got both released by Philly. So I wonder if getting rid of those contracts, so you can pay a little bit extra to say one, and they're also going to be making a run at miles Garrett potentially as well.

He got put on as, uh, the Eagles got put in as a potential favorite to land miles Garrett. If the Browns do trade him, uh, CJ, your thoughts about this whole thing and where this could potentially go from here so first addressing the saquon contract i'm going to tell you this right now uh this is extremely historical from

an nfl perspective for starters you know two, obviously, $36 million guaranteed. He is going to be the first running back in NFL history that will make $20 million a year. And he's officially the highest paid running back in NFL history with this extension. And, of course, you, the listener, would know that if you saw our post on the FumbleRuski podcast. Everything we talked about today, we've already posted. Go like it. You'd be very generous if you did. Thank you. But I like this movie.

You said it was a good thing for Howie to do, their GM. And yeah, Howie Roseman, he's doing right by his players. You like to see it. And also, like you mentioned with the release of Darius Slay and James Bradbury, I think what we're seeing there is obviously creating a pool of money. Do you say to go after Miles Garrett? Which, honestly, I can see. And I don't follow anyone thinking that.

It's the Eagles and the Commanders are currently the betting odds favorite. It was originally just the Commanders, but the Eagles just shot up there this over this weekend. Yeah. Nothing like conjecture. Am I right? Yeah. But that's,

but we also have to think about too. I'll let you finish your point. We also have to think about the Browns are currently very, very hesitant on trading. And they're basically saying no ways leaving right now, unless they get like the perfect deal of course and it could be a cleo max situation as well where he wanted out of vegas ends up going to chicago and he's on the dime type of deal but i just i i could

talk about how stupid the cleveland browns are being by literally holding their best player hostage well by the way the longer they that, they're just damaging their reputation, right? You know players around the league are looking at this and saying, no, I don't want to go there. But whatever. That's not the point. Thing is, even though you could say you're going to get Garrett, I would say you got to focus on your more important needs first. For example, Milton Williams and Josh Sweat are going to be free agents. And I would imagine you're going to want both of them. And when you have teams like Vegas, New England, Washington,

that are sniffing around them and could easily price them out then you know you're going to need every cent you can to try to keep them I mean that's a lot of what I think I mean sure doing right by Saquon's one thing but getting rid of Bradbury and Slay that's also I think you're going to take that money you're going to you know put it towards all the guys like I said you know all your free agents. Because I think Maddox is also a free agent as well. And this is something that some teams do. For example, I know the Patriots have done it before where they will cut a guy

and then bring them back on a cheaper deal, which honestly, I don't even rule that out with Slay. But as far as Saquon goes, I do think it's pretty cut and dry. And yeah, just not a whole lot to tack on. He's just, he's going to be the highest running back in NFL history. First year with the Eagles, goes for over 2K, almost breaks the rushing record. And I get wanting to stay healthy for the playoffs.

You never, ever want to tempt fate. So yeah, honestly, just those are all my thoughts. Just well-deserved, well-deserved. Yeah, I think it's pretty cut and dry. so yeah honestly just those are all my thoughts just well deserved well deserved yeah i think it's pretty cut and dry saquon is the number one running back in the league you might as well pay him like it and as mentioned nfl record in terms of the payment in doing so some other details on the contract uh includes a 36 million million guaranteed at signing, obviously more than 20 mil a year, and has the ability to earn an additional $15 million in incentives and escalators.

So maybe he gets another 2,000, he gets himself another 2 mil type of deal. Who knows? It could very well be. We'll find out week 17 and week 18 next year that's for sure yeah i do want to say one thing though one one last thing about saquon that this is a really high risk deal because obviously the league is trending away from paying running backs it's a better well established fact so if saquon can not peter out he can keep playing the way he's playing okay obviously you know 2k a year

is going to be a little unrealistic but 1500 and like 10 touchdowns if he can keep up that production or something close to it he could single-handedly revive the running back market oh but if he fails if this contract blows up in philly's face and he does peter out or he gets injured a lot that might be the death knell for the running back position in the nfl or at least getting that position getting paid so saquon no pressure buddy a lot's riding on you yeah he He basically has helped reset the running back market at this point though.

This year's free agent market or free agency for running backs isn't going to be that strong, but guys like Saquon, Derek Henry, Josh Jacobs really seem to have helped the cause in getting running backs their payday. With this record-breaking

contract market's going to move up a little bit as well so props to him yeah i can see it yeah um we're going to move on uh take a quick break when we come back get into davante adams released from the jets this is the pomeruzzi podcast It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.

This is the Paul Maruski podcast. Chris Kostich, CJ Medeiros. Get into our next topic that also just happened today. Jets releasing wide receiver Devontae Adams. Just 11 games with the Jets after being traded to New York from the Raiders. A little bit of a disgruntling situation. And, of course, with the Raiders, it was just a bad situation all around. Inconsistent quarterback play.

Devontae also being hurt. Got traded to the Jets to join up with his buddy Aaron Rodgers. And now this is ultimately a move basically saying time to clean house time to reset start over and it started with that the team telling aaron rogers he won't be returning and you can imagine that they were going to get rid of davante adams as well as a result with all of this so it's isn't that big of a surprise uh i feel like it shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone at this rate no it was very very unlikely that he was going to stick around with the jets because look he and rogers are friends and when one goes you're inevitably going to lose the other it's a matter of if not when but the jets are going to crime I'm wrong, they're going to cut Rodgers, but it's going to be after June 1st, right?

With that whole weird designation thing so that they can minimize the amount of dead cap, right? So I wouldn't be shocked because even though he's now a free agent, I would not be shocked if we saw him wait or any team that talks to him. He's going to say something to the effect of a Aaron and I are a package deal, which no, I, if I were a team, I'm saying, no,

absolutely not. We're not getting Rogers on our team. That's just a ridiculous media circus and we're just going to be worse off for it. Yeah. Uh, yeah, kind of a underwhelming time for Devontae Adams. He did have 12 yards per catch in 11 games, 67 catches, 854 yards,

seven touchdowns, which honestly pretty solid. It makes it out to about six catches per game. I just mentioned just under 13 yards per reception uh 854 divided by 11 you can do the math there but um ends up being five straight seasons with a thousand yards in total because of the 209 yards he got in three games uh with vegas uh ends up just a little bit short of 90 catches as well. So all around this, it wasn't a bad season for Devontae Adams. It was just more so underwhelming with how the season ended up playing out with New York. Just in general, you know, you have the firing of Robert Salah and just a complete meltdown throughout the season.

But as we were just saying, like, there's just there's just no real thing that was there that said, yeah, Devontae Adams for sure is staying. And as you can see on the graphic for those that are watching and during the free agency for the first time in his NFL career as well, because he spent his entire most of his career at the start up until 2022 with the Packers, then Adams currently is 32. Wrong side of 30, but it's hard to also deny the facts being it's still 5,000 yards receiving, but now you have to look at the tape and see, all right, what is still left in that 32-year-old body, that's basically what it's going to come down to. Yeah. Honestly, I do think that he has a lot remain a lot, a lot, but probably like two to three more years left in the tank. I feel like if you paired him up with a real young in right,

like a, like, like a Drake may or a Caleb Williams or whoever, like Jane Daniels, they could do a lot for their progression. He'd be a great mentor. But for me, the million dollar question is, are he and Rodgers a package deal? I said it could happen, but I guess the question is, is it? Is he going to go to a team and say, no, i'm not going to play here if you don't sign aaron and honestly would you want rogers on your team like in any facet because i don't care that supposedly the stats were better than what the eye test showed i'm a firm believer in the

eye test rogers had a stafford year you know or you know like how i like to make fun of matt stafford by saying oh you know at least when he was on the lions about how he'd wait till his team was out of it then the second half throw for like 200 yards and two touchdowns that's what rogers did a lot of these big performances came when the jets were out and you know and he's like stuck in the stat sheet in garbage time. So, no, the stats are misleading. I think he's done. Like I said, and once again, just the eye test, man, he's just painful.

And so if you're a team, if not wanting Rodgers on your team costs you Adams, then honestly, I think you should be able to live with that because Adams, like you said, is 32. And I just, I think you should be able to live with that because Adams, like you said, is 32. And I just, I don't know, but if you can get him without Rogers, then I would say by any means, do it. The other question too, is what's the contract going to look like at that point? Cause Devante Adams probably going to want maybe a three to four year deal or, or whatever.

And Aaron Rogers for all we know is probably looking for another two year deal. I don't know what to expect for that contract. All I know is if we know Adams, then let's just say he's not a vet minimum guy, you know? No, he's not going to do anybody a solid. I can think of what's fair. i would say if you want to go a

two-year route i'd say like two years 25 mil would be very fair 30. laid in with incentives of course yeah the thing is would he be willing to sign a big contract but a lot of it being guarantees like for example three years 50 million but like only 20 to 25 is guaranteed because that would be smart. But is he going to be open to it is the million dollar question. Yeah, it's just such a weird situation. Like, I feel like at max, you're only giving Devante Adams three years and maybe at max a two-year deal for Rodgers. I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe you have him for two years and say you have Rodgers for two years and have him be a bridge guy, which is kind of wild to say about Aaron Rodgers at this point in time, but maybe you have him as a bridge guy for the next one, which he probably won't want

that but also wants to play like for all we know he signs with the fucking giants and gets paired up with malik neighbors over there and maybe davante adams goes over there and maybe the giants offense gets better at that point that's probably the only team that i could think of that is probably willing to deal with everything that aaron does but i don't know how many like the jets were finally able to be like hey like if you're gonna come back and it wasn't like that there was a situation where um it was like you can't do this or else you're done it was more of like they mentioned that they kind of wanted aaron rogers stopped doing stuff like pat mcafee which rogers wasn't really about but that wasn't like the main thing that um that ended the relationship between the jets and aaron rogers so um i don't know i don't know but west coast also preferred

destination for davante adams yeah he's a west coast guy right you only did go to college at uh fresno state so i would assume he did i'm just blanking on what his hometown is but not like it really matters but probably no it could uh we're gonna move on uh from this topic though i unless you have anything else you want to all right we're gonna take a quick break when we get back we're gonna get into some of the more uh recent news from the last three days this past weekend saturday sunday and monday uh including t higgins being placed on the tag by the Bengals for the second time. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast.

It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. This is the Paul Maruski Podcast. Chris Kostich, C.J. Medeiros.

T. Higgins placed on the tag for the second time in his career by the Bengals, which would get him at $26.2 million. Now, for the Bengals, they've already expressed that they're trying to keep T. Higgins and end up keeping him long-term anyways. So this is really just a stepping stone. But obviously, T. Higgins does not want to play under the tag. No player wants to play under the tag. So it's really a matter of when the Bengals actually want to get this

contract signed. If they don't get it signed before the season starts, I wouldn't be surprised if I see a couple games where T Higgins is on the injury report for a hamstring, maybe a couple of games here and there. I don't know. This is just step one, I feel like. This is just step one.

You're right, you're right. I just, honestly, I think I saw a report like halfway through last season that said Higgins was tagged again he was going to hold out and honestly I am fully expecting Higgins to be a holdout and all you're doing is just making him angrier and angrier and I get the whole thing about oh maybe it's a tag and trade you won't lose him for nothing. Like, cool. At best, you're getting a third. And that's worse than nothing in my eyes. That's an insult.

Like, that's just adding insult to injury. Just another reason why, you know, you already know where I stand on the tag. And if you're a listener for the podcast for any measure of time, you already know where I stand on the tag. And well, it finally happened. And exactly how I said it, too. i said the bangles were gonna

wait till like the last day or two because that's always what happens like tags never happen until like the last day oh by the way folks i want to point out that as of me saying this it's now 4 21 p.m the tag window has officially closed and the only people who ended up getting tagged were trey smith and t higgins maybe i'm blanking on someone else but i think that's it no that's it trey smith uh was tagged last wednesday or thursday 23.4 mil uh to him um as you mentioned cj tag has come to an end today uh some other tag-related stuff. Sam Darnold not going to get tagged by the Vikings, so Sam Darnold is set to be a free agent.

Could be interesting to see where he ends up going, considering that he just had his career renaissance. But other than that, that is it for franchise tag news. But in terms of this coming summer, it should be interesting to see how the Bengals actually play this out with Tee Higgins. And you see a stat line there, 73 catches, 911 yards, 10 touchdowns in 12 games for the Bengals.

And, of course, 12 games and you're putting up that stat line, you deserve to get some sort of payment for that. Sorry, my dog's going a little insane because it's probably some walkers going by or something. But where was I at? Guy like Teagan's putting this stat line up throughout 12 games should be enough to get yourself a payday. But it kind of goes back to what we were saying it's you either pay this guy and you let this guy go or you end up suffering and paying a ton of money to four guys and try to scrape away what you can for for the rest of the team yeah uh as far as the bangles go make no mistake it's not about an

extension it's about control they're holding higgins hostage ignore the alliteration there but that's what they're doing they're just holding them hostage and it seems to be done more out of spite than out of, you know, oh, we want you here. They can't stomach the thought of him playing somewhere else. And like I said, it just feels angry. And at some point, if you're Joe Burrow, when do you step in? Because I know Burrow and even their owner, Mike Brown's like,

oh, we're going to extend Higgins and Hendrickson and Chase. And it's all going to be good. And Iins and hendrickson and chase and it's all gonna be good and i was talking to adam once and i believe i said this to him joe burrow's got to be the adult in the room at some point like you have to start prioritizing substance over flash and joe burrow yeah i know he restructured his deal so that he could get everyone there. But you have to be lobbying for a better defense because your defense is single-handedly will cost you going to the playoffs last year. It seemed like every game the Bengals would score 35, but the defense let up 40.

And you have to shore up the O-line. And at some point, if you're Burrow you've got to say, I need a plan. What are you going to do? But no. Instead, he's more concerned about, oh, I want to get all my friends deals. No, I'm sorry. You have to... I love Burrow and I hate to say this, but he kind of has to grow up. He's saying, oh, I want Higgins. I want Chase. I want Hendrickson.

It's like, no. Once again, you're going for all flash, no substance. If you go down this route, then you're probably going to end up being the Cincinnati Dolphins at this point. Another team that's like all flash, but there's nothing underneath the surface. And if he's content being the next Dan Marino, then good for him. But God, just the way he's handling this is so bad. And sure, they may have $69 million in cap space, as you can see right there. But there's one thing I'd like to point out. It's not about Higgins, not even about Hendrickson, it's about Chase. Allegedly, the Cincinnati Bengals want to make Jamar Chase the highest paid non-quarterback in the league.

And despite this, the Bengals and Chase are, and I quote, far apart on their contract talks. That's terrifying if you're the Bengals. So can you keep Higgins and Chase? Yeah, but you're going to have to do some real cap gymnastics. They're going to set themselves right to the depths of cap hell if they do this. And it doesn't matter how much Joe Burrow restructures his deal, because as you know, a restructure just pushes the money back. And Burrow's deal, much like how I brought up about Patrick Mahomes,

that deal is also backloaded. So you're literally just going to suffer in the future. That tends to be how it works. And when you look at the free agents, right? Alex Kappa is already gone. You cut him. And to be fair, good riddance, right? Because, correct me if i'm wrong but i

believe he took home the triple crown of being the worst offensive lineman last year it was like worst pff grade as a whole worst pass blocking grade and worst run blocking grade so like i said he got the triple crown that's bad however starting tight end mike is sicky right tackle trent brown uh top defensive tackle bj hill slot corner mike hilton like they're gonna hemorrhage pieces and it seems like all the money that could have gone to keeping anybody worth half of a damn on their roster there is probably just gonna go to jamar chase and maybe a bit for higgins. But I don't know. Just the whole thing, it just seems so ass backwards what they're doing. Yeah.

They're cheap. That's all it is. That's all it is. I mean, that is Mike Brown, right? I mean, their owner. Is he not, like, the cheapest owner in the league? At least that's what all owner in the league? Yeah. Yeah. Report cards

didn't have him as the worst owner. He was one of the worst, though. But notable free agents other than Kappa, BJ Hill, Mike Hilton, Mike Siki, and Trent Brown. Fuck Trent Brown. I fucking hate Trent Brown.

He's such a pussy. Lazy bastard. Yeah. He should never play in the league ever again. No, he shouldn't. But yeah. If you see there, 25th in the NFL for defensive yards averaged allowed. Yeah, and it's going to get worse.

When they give Chase and Higgins that contract, it's going to get worse. When they give Chase and Higgins that contract, it's going to get worse. And you know what the thing is? Remember how they beat Patrick Mahomes in Arrowhead in the playoffs, and then they dueled them right down to the wire the next year. They've been to a Super Bowl. Their window was wide open. And the way I see it, it slammed shut on them. And the thing is, it's not like the core aged or they hemorrhaged too many guys in the offseason.

It's that they did it to themselves. They needlessly shed or they're going to shed a bunch of talent so they can keep a few high-level guys. like i just is a sleeper agent from the another afc north team running them because this like i just said they're going they're just so backwards in what they're doing they are literally slamming shut their own super bowl window and i hate to say it but it's looking like by the time Burrow retires, the word that's going to define him is potential. You know the saying about the man who died with potential written on his grave? That's what it's going to be.

Like I said, if Joe Burrow was content to just stuff the stat sheet but not do anything meaningful, then God bless him. Then he can do that if he wants. But at some point, point you got to say, Hey, I like a functioning offensive line and a defense. But then again, if he wasn't willing to try to get Sean Taylor,

no, Zach Taylor, sorry, Zach Taylor. If he wasn't willing to get Zach Taylor fired, then maybe he's just being a bit too passive. Yeah. Oh,

geez. It's, I had something else I want to throw out there, but I just forgot about it. Um, but we'll, we'll just wrap this up in general. Um,

unless you got anything else you want to say? No, I'm done. Yeah, actually I do remember what I was going to throw in to it really all this really all started with joe mixon um getting traded last year or he got traded right either way they lost joe mixon last season uh in the off season and that and then he just had an amazing year and since he do you think about who they the the Bengals had for running backs? It was a mix of Chase Brown and another guy that leaves my head at the moment.

But now Chase Brown's like good though. Yeah, he is good, but, but he also still lost a great talent in Joe Mixon. So now that's just starting this snowball effect at this rate. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Now we're going to move on to what should be the last topic of the day. 49ers trading Debo Samuel to the commanders for a fifth round pick. That happens.

I don't even remember which day it was. It happened this weekend, but this is the Pomeranian podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.

This is the Paul Maruski podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and secret weapon consultant Chris Kostich, CJ Materos. Big trade news from this past weekend. 49ers trading Debo Samuel to the Commanders for a fifth round pick. So now you look at Washington's offense. Jaden Daniels, Terry McLaurin, Brian Robinson Jr., Zach Ertz. It's not a bad offense, but this also isn't the same Debo Samuel from 2022

or last year at the very least. It's an interesting Debo Samuel. It's Debo Samuel that you know what's there, but he hasn't been able to really show it. So this is an interesting move by Washington, and I feel like that with the way that Dan Quinn had orchestrated this off, or pardon, not even Dan Quinn, who was their their offensive coordinator i'll be out here cj uh kingsbury cliff kingsbury yeah it was cliff kingsbury who implemented this kind of college style offense with it being a very spread oriented deal

that could potentially be great for debo Samuel might might be able to scheme out a lot so stats from last year 51 uh catches 670 yards three touchdowns uh very underwhelming season he also was dealing with some injuries as well and on the San Francisco side, you have this going on, and this past season you're coming off of a Super Bowl loss. So you figure maybe Super Bowl hangover, but then the team just keeps getting injured and injured and injured. Brandon Iyuk is having problems, and then he's out for the season. Tons of players on the defensive side of the football

were out trent williams couldn't stay healthy it was a lot of a lot of bullshit going on in san francisco great to them they still made it competitive trying to get that uh get a playoff spot but weren't able to do it so they must playoffs and now it feels like it's all kind of crashing a little bit in san fran one with now this debo trade and now you have the possibility that brandon iuk is up for sale as well so a lot of different things going on john lynch got to make a lot of decisions over there uh cj your thoughts I just realized that they're literally listening to trades on Brandon Ayuk

because they're this cash strapped why because Purdy needs an extension and he's gonna be paid a lot is he a system guy does he deserve it that's not my place to say but doesn't matter because he's got to be

getting paid oh my god you know how bad it is one of their free agents you may know him as really elite linebacker dre greenlaw you know what they're giving him you know what they offered him did you see that a one-year prove it deal for dre They're like, oh, we don't know if he can stay healthy. I'm like, oh, what is this nonsense? That's just chicanery of the highest order, I tell you what. But the fact that Ayuk is available for trade is just that's a bad sign. I mean, if you're that confident in Jennings and Pearsall,

then good for you. But, hey, coming off an injury, you just paid him that. Won't you look stupid if you do that? And as far as Debo goes, I get it, right? And it's not that it was a Super Bowl hangover that was an underwhelming year. He's becoming a bit of a distraction. For an example, he was clapping back, as the children say,

at some reporter for questioning his production. He's, oh, it's not me. I'm just not getting the ball enough. That's what he said on X. And you know X community notes, right? No, I remember what what yeah i remember i know readers added context you're leaving your team in drops not to mention apparently he's not in playing shape i saw another report that he's like 20 pounds over playing shape which honestly he can you know he can figure that out right i have no

issues there like i don't i think he can easily figure that out he can lose the weight but it's the fact that it got there is really really concerning yeah it is pretty concerning um so obviously they're gonna have to pay out the rest of his contract, right. Which is not a cheap contract, not by any stretch, but I will tell you for a fifth, it's a solid price.

Yeah. Uh, this is just interesting in general. Debo Samuel got signed to a three-year 71.5 million dollar contract uh getting rid of him is now 30 a 31 million dollar cap hit um that's the accrued debt cap for this coming year. It was $41 million guaranteed at signing. Has $16.417 million of 2024 salary fully guarantees. It's a laundry list, to say the least. But remainder of the contract through this year, full $17.55 million.

I don't really see you. If they do end up resigning him next season or giving him a contract extension in the middle of this next season, then I feel like this is going to go with the same thing that we were saying about Devontae Adams you're not signing Debo Samuel to more than three years no more maybe even two years

at most two I think is fine three might be a bit much yeah it might be a bit much, especially when you look at the production he had this year as well. Production this year, you don't really know what you're going to end up getting next year as well,

considering it's going to be a new offense you're working with. I don't know. It's interesting. But back to the commanders real quick, though. Terry McLaurin, Debo Samuel, Jahan Dotson, going to be the pass catchers, at least in the wide receiver room, throwing Noah Brown as well. Let's throw in McCaffrey while we're at it as well.

Zach Ertz, Brian Robinson Jr., Austin Eckler in the backfield as well. This could potentially be a scary offense. And the thing with the Commanders, it was a great run they had to the NFC Championship. But the thing with Washington is that you have to realize that it's not like they're, say, they're a Debo Samuel away from winning the Superbowl. They still have a lot of spots that they need to address going into almost all of them run defense.

Yeah. Deep that just defense all around in general. Obviously they were able to do a job of getting Marshawn Lattimore. Now you got to keep them there. So don't really know how it's going to end up with Washington. Another part of this as well. Jonathan Allen was part of the trade discussion between the commanders and the 49ers last week with the Debo Samuel deal.

But obviously he wasn't involved at all. He was due $16.4 million going into this season. How exactly does that work? How do you go from Jonathan Allen, who's a really good defensive lineman, to a fifth-round pick? Yeah, it is interesting. I feel like the commanders are commanders are like well debo performed this way when you guys had an all-around bad year so they probably leveraged that a little

bit possibly and one more thing this is just about the niners it says here the niners are willing to listen to trades for and i quote just about anyone according to adam schefter you know given their current cap situation yeah and even if someone's willing to take on a brandon iuk contract or anyone like that then they will quote definitely listen yeah um notable free agents for the commanders that they may or may not pick back up Zachary. It's KJ Osborne, Noah Brown.

I feel like you have to bring back Zachary. It's like you have to. Yeah, absolutely. He and Jane Daniels get along really well. They can tell they've got some great chemistry. Why wouldn't you keep them age aside? Yeah.

10 catches and then FC championship game. Like you, you want some sort of veteran presence. Like I I've always believed that having that one, like saw a veteran presence that gets significant playing time on the field can do wonders for your team. I mean, you can transcend that into just any sport look at the freaking

celtics they have they've had al horford who's old as shit but he still falls out and they were missing that for like the three years that they didn't have al horford and then first year he's back they go on a nba finals run Sorry, it's turning into a basketball podcast all of a sudden. But it goes with my point. You need that veteran presence, especially Zach Gertz, Super Bowl winning tight end Zach Gertz. That type of veteran presence as well to help guide this relatively young Washington team to the finish, along with Bobby Wagner. That's another veteran that ended up being a great move for them to have. And he ended up playing great with Washington this year.

So you can try to get yourself that veteran presence on the offensive side of the football. You are golden. Yeah. Also, isn't Bobby Wagner also a free agent because i thought he signed a one-year prove-it deal unless they've extended him already that's a good question um that takes one google search what's our producer for the day adam wright wants to figure that one out adam wright has been um is running behind the scenes for us today.

I think he is, yeah. I believe he is. Yeah, so you're going to need him. So not just Ertz. You're going to need Bobby Wagner back. But that also goes with the main conversation we were having with Debo, Devontae Adams. How much are you signing them for?

What's the years? What are we thinking here for the contract? Are we looking at just two more years, three more years? Do you look at Bobby Wagner and say, yeah, he's got three more years in the tank to get us through this championship window? Do you think Wagner, at bare minimum, would take a team-friendly deal? Yeah. There's no one else than him. I'm not saying team bare minimum would take a team probably deal. Yeah. No one else than him.

I'm not, I'm not saying team like nevermind team friendly. I'm just saying, what are we looking at for the contract? Like, Hmm. Like maybe two years. Yeah. And it's probably gonna be the same thing with Zachary.

Yeah. And they have a lot of cap space, so it shouldn't be that much of an issue they have the third most I believe yes I'm pretty sure they're top five

yeah yeah I know okay because I know versus New England the second is Vegas and so yeah the third would be the commanders yeah yeah all right I think we touched on everything we needed to touch on for Vegas. The third would be the Commanders. Yeah. Alright. I think we touched on everything we needed to touch on for Debo's stuff.

What? I said no. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Other NFL news. Cowboys just made quite the signing, especially for a one-year deal. Wait, what? No, no.

It was an extension. Pardon. Extension. My fault. $22.25 million extension for Osa Adigizua. Adigizua. Adigizua. Yeah.

Basically, four-year extension, 80 mil. $58 million guaranteed for, I think it's Osa Adigizua. Adigizua. Yeah. Yeah. Bit of an overpay, but they had to keep him because he was going to Bolton for agency. Then again, why would you stay in Dallas? No idea. Yeah, for sure.

Bill Belichick also being put on hard knocks offseason over at North Carolina because no NFL teams wanted to do offseason hard knocks because of the Giants, which I found hilarious. Yeah, obviously I would not. I don't blame Bill at all. That's a very Bill thing. But, yeah, that's pretty much it. That's all I got on that.

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