The Fumblerooski Podcast - Unstoppable Force -Ep 402 The Fumblerooski Podcast
Episode Date: November 21, 2025On today’s episode, the Chiefs look to keep their season alive and welcome the Colts before Thanksgiving. Can the Colts get another win in the outdoors and knock the Chiefs further out of playoff co...ntention? Texans win 3 straight including 4 of their last 5 with a wild win vs Buffalo. How alive are the Texans? Are the Bills in big trouble? Chris Costich, CJ Medeiros, and Justin Tucker talk about this and give their Week 12 Picks! Can the Bucs get out of trouble? Are the Panthers primed for another upset win? All that and more!
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On today's episode of the Fulmbruski podcast, Colts in Chiefs, Chiefs, backs against the wall.
If they lose this game, could mean they're out of the playoffs.
Along with that, week 12 picks, this is Fulmuruski podcast.
It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario for both.
Welcome to the Fulmboroski podcast by Power 818 Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting.
We got C.J. Maderos.
We got Justin Tucker.
We got Adam Wright behind the scenes for today's show.
We've got a good one for you lined up.
Later tonight, we'll be talking about Bill's Texans as well.
So see how that one ends up playing out.
See if Davis Mills can get the upset when, like you did.
against the Jaguars.
But for today,
let's take a look at our Ruski game of the week.
Colts and Chiefs.
Chiefs fresh off of a loss against the Broncos last week.
And, you know, this is a, well, set it at the top of the show.
This is a Chiefs team that if they lose,
well, their playoff chances may be kissed goodbye because,
chances are you might not get in at 10 wins you most certainly might not get in at 9 wins
there's a good chance that you don't get in at 10 wins so this is a much needed a win that
the chiefs need uh on the cold side they're coming off a buy so they're a little healthy
but i see this game in the same sense that i kind of had at least after the pitts
game that the Colts had and that's I want to see this team actually be able to perform
in cold weather on natural grass it's uh we saw it they did all right down in Germany
they played bear they played badly against Pittsburgh now they're in Kansas City now the
weather's actually going to be somewhat nice 59 degrees so that does put the odds more in
Indies favor.
But this is the type of game that Kansas City wins.
Everyone's got them down and out.
I'm feeling the I'm feeling the Chiefs this week and a bounce back win.
Thoughts from you, fellas.
We'll start with talk.
Well, I think this is an important game for both the Colts and the Chiefs.
I think it's important for the Colts to establish that they're not pretenders,
they're contenders.
I think a win against the Chiefs, even a depleted Chiefs,
establishes that they are one of the best teams
in the AMC. And for the Chiefs, it's do
or die. They need to win this game because if they go
five and six, that means the Texans,
depending on how they win goes ahead of them. The Ravens go ahead of them
if they want to beat the Jets. They officially go down to like the 10th
11th spot. And so that means it's a long road ahead of them
just to even make the playoffs, especially with the Chargers
and the Broncos ahead of them in the division. And the
bills in one of the wild card spots so as far as i'm concerned this is do or die and i'm not sure
they will be able to get the job done i think indianapolis what after coming off a byway looks
refreshed and i think they'll be able to handle the chiefs despite pat mohom's best efforts i give
the score 2420 colts
CJ?
Ooh.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, so for our game of the week here, this is just weird because chiefs are five and five.
It's the worst they've ever looked with Patrick Mahomes.
The Colts, I mean, they might have done some freaky Friday type nonsense where, you know,
the Colts are world beaters, they're running over everyone, they have a stout defense,
and the chiefs are just flailing.
However, it's in Arrowhead, which is one of the toughest places to play in the NFL.
You know, it's going to be a nicer day, but still it's going to be outside.
And that game against Pittsburgh, I think, showed us a lot about the Colts.
Now, if you're Kansas City, there's one way to go about this, and that is on every play, stack the box.
The Colts are obviously a run first team.
team. And this is something that our producer Adam likes to say. Once again, he's right. And I'll echo it again, even though I've said it before. Run first teams are usually the first to fall apart when the run game stops working. So literally, make Daniel Jones beat you. And look, and if you get beat at your own game, then yeah, that sucks. But like, that's what it has to be. If you're going to lose, you can't lose to Jonathan Taylor. Make Daniel Jones beat you. So if I'm
Kansas City, and I'm Steve Spagnolo. Every play, I'm stack in the box. I'm stuffing Jonathan
Taylor. Easier said than done. Much easier said than done. But I'm getting in his head. I'm
frustrating him and saying, all right, Danny Dimes, if that is your real name, beat me with
your arm. Now, of course, you know, the Chiefs tried that in the Super Bowl. I mean, they stopped
Sequam, but Hertz diced him up, but Hertz is a little better than Daniel Jones, for the most part.
So, honestly, if Jonathan Taylor doesn't, you know, feast, then I don't have a lot of confidence in Daniel Jones to be the reason they win in Arrowhead.
Like I said, is going to be tough.
And as far as the bi-a-week goes, you're either going to come out rejuvenated or you're going to come out rusty.
It's, you can flip a coin because, you know, bi-weeks are weird.
sure you can be rested, but you know,
but you're not battle tested quite like the previous week either.
So I think this is more of a coin flip of what a lot of people think.
I know a lot of people just want to say, oh, Colts,
but I like home field advantage for Kansas City.
I think it's going to be an ugly game.
And I think it's going to be a game that, yeah,
the Chiefs win,
but it's going to leave me with more questions and answers.
But at the end of the day, a win is a win.
I got the Chiefs grinding out an ugly one because the Colts defense is also really good.
Yeah.
Uh, it could very much, could very well see the run game fall apart for all we know and, uh, Chief's defense, well, they can perform. They can show up. Um, all right, anything else, uh, you guys want to touch on for this game or, you all get really? All right.
Do you guys, one thing? Do you guys think if they finish five and six, do they make the, if they start five and six, do you think they make the playoffs still?
Let's tell. I want to. Oh, excuse me go.
well just like the schedule coming up is a little tough like they got the cowboys next week
and then they got the texans that could easily be a trap game the chargers and then they got
they also have the broncos on christmas day uh sprinkling the titans and the raiders in there
it's it's that broncos on christmas day game right there that and same thing with the chargers
but like chargers are a mess in their own right they could but they would have to win out if
If they lose this game, then you almost have to win out.
And it's very doable.
You know, when Mahomes backs against the wall is when you can clutch up,
but this Chief's team is different and not different in a good way.
If they lose this game, then your best case scenario is probably the seventh seed.
Yep.
Oh, I agree with that.
I don't think they'll make it if they start off five and six.
I don't think they make it either.
but like C.J said, best they'll do is to seven seed.
All right.
All right.
We're going to move on when we come back.
Early afternoon, Slate.
This is the Wombertsky podcast.
It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet,
but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.
Welcome back to the Fulburwski podcast.
Let's get into our week 12 game picks.
Teams on the buy this week include Chargers, Commanders, Miami, and Denver.
First game on the list, the Bears and the Steelers.
It's kind of looking like it's going to be Mason Rudolph this week, but kind of testing the waters
on where Rogers is.
CJ, do you have something on that?
No.
Oh, you're,
it looks like you're making a face
like you're about to say something.
I got something stuck in my teeth.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Happens to the best stuff.
Bears are favorite by two and a half at home.
Bears are now the top spot
in the NFC North.
I would be very interested
to see how this goes now.
now you got the top spot what do you do with it and we're going to see with this performance against
the bear or against the Steelers uh CJ let's start with you this time
I got the bears because look I know they're saying they're testing the water with Rogers
he has a fractured hand granted like it's his non-throwing hand and granted he practiced
but at the end of the day does that mean anything if you're going to throw your quarterback out
there with like a fractured non-throwing hand, you're almost asking to lose.
Like, I don't, once again, I just, I don't care.
That's my thing.
I don't care.
Yeah, all fun in games till he gets knocked on his ass and he tries to put out his
non-throwing hand to break the fall and it snaps off.
Obviously, that's an exaggeration, but you get what I mean.
Now, for the bears, there's a lot of hype around them.
But they, but to my knowledge, I don't think they've beaten a team above 500 this year.
And everyone likes to harass the Patriots for having a cakewalk schedule.
The Bears, all their losses have come to, like, I believe, teams above 500.
So this is a good chance, even with the Steelers having Mason Rudolph, to buck that trend.
And honestly, I think they roll into Pittsburgh and get the job done.
Give me Chicago.
Well, CJ, would be talking out of your ass because they do have two wins against
about 500 last week against the Vikings.
The Vikings are four and five, idiot.
My bad.
I keep thinking they have a winning record.
My bad.
They still beat the commanders earlier this year when they were 500.
Yeah, and they're not now, so that literally does not count.
Yeah.
That is how we look in the grand calculus of these things.
Yes.
Tuck, your pick.
I think these teams are fairly even matched, but I think it comes down to quarterback play,
and I think Caleb Williams is clearly the better quarterback, like by far better than
Mason Rudolph.
If Aaron Rogers was there, then that would be one thing.
But since he's not there, I think the Bears will claw this one out, no pun intended.
But I think they will be able to scrape by this one.
I think 2019, something along those, it's going to be a close game.
But I think the Bears get this one out.
um jelan ramsie wasn't getting hit with a suspension from that incident with jemar chase right
no i don't think he got fine but i don't think he got suspended
jimar chased it but not him yeah that's what i got ramsie shouldn't have been suspended i mean
you saw what tomlin said someone spits on you nah you know you react you react awardingly um yeah
i'm going with the bears here i i think that even
with like if you have Mason Rudolph there surprisingly the offense kind of looks better it's not
by much but it's a little bit better uh I heard a great comparison to to Mason Rudolph and
Aaron Rogers uh it's basically like having two of the same restaurant in your hometown but
one's like considered better than the other but there's not really a clear difference as
to why um that's kind of how I see it.
Oh, stop.
Okay, it's weird to say about Aaron Rogers,
but Rogers, the name versus Rogers,
the player in 2025, I think, are a little different.
Yes.
No, I agree.
I get what you mean.
Rudolph, Rogers, doesn't matter.
I got the Bears in this one.
Next game on the list, the Pats and the Bengals.
Pats are favored on the road by six and a half,
over under the big one, 50 and a half.
they're expecting Drake May to throw it all over the
freaking yard dude and with the shit that Kim knew it
and Stephen A. Smith are spewing out their mouth
Drake May is going to commit a worse atrocity
in Cincinnati since Harambe.
Drake May is about a throw for 400
because his childhood idol is talking trash
for some reason. Through Kim, by the way.
I liked him when he was a patriot. I like him. I like him when he was a patriot.
I liked him because he was a patron
and was a good player for the Panthers.
No, no.
Okay.
I hate Cam Newton now.
He's just become another talking head on ESPN first take
that just spews nonsense out of their mouth.
Like Ryan Clark, like Stephen Wayne Smith.
But anyways, back to the pics.
That's my billion.
You're going to guess that already.
Does anyone have anything different?
I have the pads.
Don't think it'll be close because I think Joe Burrow will miss Jamar Chase because I think Joe Burrow is playing.
But I don't think the quarterback play will be much different because Joe Flacko was playing well, despite Joe Burrow being absent.
So since Jamar Chase isn't going to be there for this game, I think it's going to be a struggle for the offense.
So I got the Patriots not close.
Not by a million, but not close.
as for me i'm going with new england here i think they roll into censey take care of business
and drake may was giving bolton board material sam newton the the loser one year wonder
has literally no no we're not going there yes we are yes we are he has become the football
talking head equivalent of kendrick perkins he spews so much bullshit we are not a loser one year wonder
And then, oh, then, ooh, screaming A. Smith claps back at Drake May.
Hey, Stephen A.
Don't you have a failing presidential bid you have to worry about, you absolute dork?
Good God.
You know, give me New England.
I hope Drake May, after the, in the postgame presser, says, yo, yo,
Sham Newton, screaming A.
Right here.
Right here.
He is not a one-year wonder.
He can't be a one-year wonder.
Just flip the bird to the camera for our, for our listeners.
Yeah.
Also, by the way, when Drake May fumbles, at least he attempts to dive on the ball.
Damn.
Ew.
He is not.
Dan Orlovsky got me going as well talking shit about the Patriots defense.
Oh, brother, we have a top five one game.
Why are you talking that trash about it?
We have a top five run defense.
Why do we give that loser any time of the day?
Somebody ought to fucking smack them.
All right.
right i i'm i'm gonna freaking burst a blood vessel let's say let's probably also there's one thing though
and this isn't about that this is just about the bangles yeah i know bangles bangles you know
jack taylor mike brown wherever your name of your gm is listen to me listen to me i know it's
tempting i know you want to save face you cannot bring joe burrow back you just can't not behind
that offensive line shut them down for the year you're pretty much out of playoff contention
the only thing this is for is probably fantasy owners and yeah with joe burrow it's always a game
but why are you going to try to kill him again like i just think it's stupid it's over
since he is three uh three and seven right now so yeah a loss would effectively kick him out
of playoff contention um all right let's all take a breath
Detroit and New York
Detroit and the Giants
Let's get that spread
Hmm
I had the lines
And don't rely on the ticker
Because the ticker was made on
Monday
And so the spreads have changed
Since then
Is Jackson Dart playing
No
I would assume not
Uh 12 and a half
10
Just 10
Suckage
Wait we did just 10
It's just lines by 10.
It's just lines by 10.
Word?
Huh.
Lines by 14.
Yeah.
Lines.
Lines.
Lines.
All right.
Green Bay, Minnesota.
Green Bay is favored at home by six points against the Minnesota
Vikings.
I just don't want to make a decision on J.J. McCarthy.
He's not how to.
great year like he's had some moments like the like a couple two minute drives that or two minute
drills that were successful but that's really about it uh what he's six games into is technically
his first year um i'm not here to make a decision on him yet but he hasn't had a good year
then you look at the packers they're gangbusters on defense still but like in terms of their
offense it's just dead like something's wrong with the offense and for and mat with
flur's head is like is now on the chopping block so i in in this case you know part of me
would say the packers i might have to make this the upset button here i don't know it's uh
i don't know if i'm a fan of what's going on in green bay but something's got me tingling for j j mccarthy
Give me the Vikings.
Give me the Vikings.
Never use that terminology again.
Give me the Packers.
Tingle for J.J. McCarthy?
Are you okay?
Nah, I can't do it.
I can't do it.
I got the Packers in this one.
To me, it should be the Packers by a lot,
but they've been looking so inconsistent,
especially on offense.
I got, it's making me a little nervous,
especially with that Vikings defense,
but I got the Packers just winning this one out.
But as tangibly, I'm going to kiss him on the lips all the time.
All right.
As for me, I'm sorry.
I can't take J.J. McCarthy seriously.
And I'm aware, I really am, that, you know, we don't want to judge him too soon.
But as soon as I heard that Goober say, yeah, I have an alternate personality, they called me nine.
Yeah, nine out of ten on the Vikings fan frustration scale.
good gravy just what a goober just like hey yeah i'm nine no no you have all the german viking
fans just going nine german for no yeah you throw a ball chris that's disgusting put that away
that he's holding up a j j mccarthy shirt why he owns one ill ill because your guess is as good
as mine yeah come on what did you get oh he he got that when he went to see the minnesota stadium
Oh, possibly. But, okay, but look, look.
It's not possibly.
Justin Jefferson, I mean, look, J.J. McCarthy has been so
overwhelming. He's making Justin Jefferson look bad.
A wide receiver, who we all assumed was D'Andre Hopkins level quarterback proof.
But the Packers, what do we even think about them?
Like, one week, they look sluggish and just like they're falling apart.
and then the next week, they look like Super Bowl contenders.
I don't know.
A couple of fat, this is a division game.
I'm so known with the Packers.
I don't care.
Nines, not going to save you, Vikings.
Tucker already gave his pick, right?
Yeah, I said Packers.
Okay, I was just double-checking.
Seahawks, Titans.
This is the get-right game of the year.
Right here.
like this is it
this is Seahawks by a billion
Sam Donald threw four
interceptions last week he's thrown four touchdowns
this week maybe five
maybe seven
because that's just
that's just how bad the Titans are
I'm assuming
Seahawks all around
yeah
yep this literally is
the epitone of a get right game like you said
yeah
Baltimore
and
And the Jets, Tuck, I'll have you guess the spread for this game.
Ravens by?
10 plus 10.
We should win this one pretty handedly.
It's 13 and a half, actually.
13?
I'm, we're not that better.
We're not that much better than the Jets.
I'll be perfect.
My brother in Christ, it's in Baltimore.
Really?
Really.
Yeah, no, no.
If you think that, but then you look at our guard play, they can easily stay in this game far longer than they should.
And that's what concerns me.
I believe Baltimore will win this one.
It should be handedly, but I swear to you, if it's close, it's because of my guard play and we can't establish the run.
I can see it now.
I could see it being the fourth quarter like it was in the Browns game.
And it takes a miracle play to get a touchdown, all because my guards can't stop anybody.
I trust my defense right now because they've actually been looking better than expected.
They only gave up nine points to the Browns.
I know it's the Browns, but I'll take anything I can get.
I believe the Raidants will win this one handedly, but I do have my concerns that we're plus 13 favorites.
We shouldn't be plus 13 favorites.
It's technically minus because they're favorites.
Yeah, minus 13 favorites, my bad.
But I do have the Ravens winning, but by 10 at the most.
Yeah, I'm going Baltimore.
The Jets, I mean, at least when they had Justin Fields,
they had that weird gadget element to them.
Because, you know, he's a good runner.
He can do little dinks and dunks, but he can run.
You know, the gadget offense is always tricky.
But with an older, slower Tyrod Taylor,
Jets got playing from the pocket.
You don't have Garrett Wilson.
A.D. Mitchell can't catch.
And I got the Raven.
I also got the Ravens.
Obviously, if you haven't noticed already,
Tyraud Taylor's starting in place of Justin Fields,
not because of injury,
just because Justin Fields is ass.
Yeah, that is the early slate for week 12.
We're going to take a quick break when we come back late afternoon
and prime time.
This is the Fulburwski podcast.
It may not have always.
showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the
throws.
Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.
Welcome back to the Fulmburiski podcast, Week 12, late afternoon.
And we start with the Toilet Bowl, the Las Vegas Raiders, four-point favorites to the Cleveland
Brown.
All right.
Should our standards first career start?
How is it going to go?
First things first.
How the hell are the Raiders anybody's favorites?
I don't care who it is.
What?
What a four point favorites?
I understand one point, but four point out of your damn mind.
I do not trust the Raiders at all.
I think Cleveland's going to win just off the strength of Miles Garrett.
do not care what anyone else does on that field.
As long as Miles Garrett shows up,
Cleveland will be in this game.
And I think Shador will show you more than what he was shown against Baltimore.
It was his first game.
He didn't have any first team reps throughout the whole season.
So I think him having actual reps in practice can go a long way.
I got Cleveland winning this.
Oh, we got semi-breaking news.
Adam, what you got?
oh it's just okay schedule flex it's week 14 bears packers got flexed
okay to to what what was it 425 425 okay
so and this is great podcasting uh bengels browns or pardon bengels bills got moved from 425
to 1 o'clock.
Yeah, makes sense.
Great podcasting on my part, guys.
Great podcasting.
Hopefully, you will be forgiven.
Yeah, you know, we're only talking about the Raiders and the Browns.
CJ, before you give your pick, over under on this game.
Jesus, Harold Christ, why do you force me to do this?
I don't want to do this.
I've never wanted to do this.
And, no, I'm just not going to.
Okay, talk.
As far as points?
Yeah, total points.
Probably like what, 30 and a half, or 35 and a half or some low number one?
I was going to go 34.
I was going to go 36 and a half, 36 and a half.
I was joking around before, but like, yeah, now it's a, it's okay, I guess.
But for me, oh my God, this game might actually end 3-0.
This really might.
It's so funny.
I mean, on the bright side, Shador Sanders is getting first team rep, so I expect he'll look a little better than he did against Baltimore.
And I know the Raiders should win.
Counterpoint, they are the Raiders, the 2025 Raiders, which I didn't think they were going to be good.
I thought they'd be like watchable, maybe end the year with like six wins, five, but I didn't expect to be this problem.
Really didn't.
So I think the Raiders are going to Raider.
I think Shador is going to do just enough to keep them in the game.
you know, him and Quinshaw Junkins.
Yeah, that's going to be an ugly game.
Probably, like I said, it might end like 3-0.
God, I hope it does.
That'd be funny.
But I'm going with the Browns.
Shador's going, like I said, he's good to just enough.
And Mel Kuyper's going to Kuiper all over the place when that happens.
Yeah.
And we'll never hear the end of it.
I am going to go with the Raiders.
I don't really have much of a basis because.
I don't know like this could be a three three tie this could be the ugliest loss you've ever seen from either side this could just be the ugliest game you've ever seen
uh the only basis I really have is that the Browns are 0 and 5 on the road and the Raiders are 1 and 4 at home
cinema against all odds Shadr Sanders will lose all right um next game in the 4 o'clock slate sticking with 405 Jacksonville
and the Cardinals.
Jaguars and the Cardinals.
Cardinals three-point underdogs at home.
I mean, this is basically do or die right now for the Cardinals.
They're three and seven.
You've basically established that Jacoby Brissette is your guy,
pretty much the rest of the season at this rate.
And he broke the NFL single game record for completions in a game.
Congrats to him for that.
they still lost, but, I mean, the offense is looking like that.
Who knows?
Because, you know, you're going up against the Jaguars.
You know, I'm just going to come out right and say it.
This is going to be a perfect, this is like the perfect game for the Jaguars to lose.
All points are heading to a Jaguars, a massive beatdown of the Chargers last week.
It just smells disappointment.
Give me the Cardinals.
This is my upset of the week.
This is my upset of the week.
Cardinals over Jaguars.
Book it.
I'm not booking that.
I got the Jags over the cards.
They don't have Kyler Murray.
Do not trust Jacoby Reset to bring them to the promised land.
Do they even have Marvin Harrison, Jr. right now?
I too wonder this.
If they don't, that even goes more credence in my way.
I got the Jags one in this one.
It sucks because Jacoby Brissette's been playing really well as of late,
but it's literally just him and Trey McBride and maybe like Buda Baker on defense.
That's pretty much it.
And even though Jacksonville's weird jungle grab bag of nonsense that, you know,
like that just the randomness that they throw at you game to game,
I still think even they can beat the Cardinals.
Chris, like I understand your point.
I do.
but oh my god i just don't trust the cardinals at all they have all the explosive firepower of a cheap
dollar store water pistol the jaguars are wonky and inconsistent but you got to beat arizona
you just got to that's all marvin harrison junior is still out by the way because uh of his appendicitis
oh well that sucks yeah at his appendix removed uh mary de mercardo
also out, Tray Benson on IR, it's
yeah, they're short-handed.
They're short-handed.
I don't know.
They're shorthanded, no offense to Kyler Murray.
Yeah, good one.
Next game on the list, if this thing wants to load for me.
The Cowboys and the Eagles,
Cowboys are three and a half-point underdogs against the Eagles.
I think if you want a game where you need the Eagles to feel something,
then this might just be the game, right?
I mean, Cowboys, past defense sucks.
It's pretty ass.
I mean, their defense in general sucks, but especially pasty.
So maybe we see some G.L.N. Hertz to A.J. Brown quite a few times.
Maybe to Devont to Smith quite a few times.
maybe Dallas got her quite a few times.
You get what I'm saying.
Give me the Eagles.
I said give me the Eagles.
I think I hope that Dallas can make this a close game because I actually think the
inclusion of Quinn and Williams will help that defense tremendously because now they have
two top D tackles that can imply pressure within the pocket.
So I think this game could be close.
But again, I don't think Duran Blaine is going to all of a sudden just upgrade that.
secondary, I think, hopefully that this game will be close, but I still think the Eagles have
more than enough talent to pull away from them. Eagles got this one.
Hmm. Philly. Once again, you know, Cowboys run defense sucks, but their past defense sucks
does as well. I expect this to be a shootout, but I think Philly's going to pull away.
It's probably going to be like, I don't know, 31, 21.
Yeah. I mean, I think if you're Philly, key to this game is make sure that Jalen Carter doesn't get tossed before the first snap of the first game of the season or before just the first snap of the game.
So that's a good key.
New Orleans and Atlanta, New Orleans, two and a half point favorites against the Falcons.
and I mean for good reason
they got Kirk Cousins starting
they're most like
they're going to be without Drake London again
things are not looking good
for the Falcons
and you know
the Saints were going to win very very little games
but they're going to win
any sort of very few
this is one of those games
because the Falcons are so dead
in the water right now
Give me the Saints
I said give me the Falcons
I think it'll be close
Very close
Unusually close
But I still think the Falcons
Will pull it out in the end
You know what
Do you guys know what month it is
It's Kirk Tober
Bust out your good khakis
Because I got the Falcons
It's November
And honestly
It's just like
I don't trust
The Saints I don't
You know, they're mired in misery.
They're not going to do anything.
You know, Tyler Shuck has won good game and, you know, people are going nuts.
But, uh, honestly, I still have Atlanta.
It's going to be ugly, but I still have Atlanta.
Yeah, this will also be one of the uglier games of the day.
Uh, but we will be treated to a good Sunday night football game.
It's the Rams and the Buccaneers.
Uh, Rams are favored by seven points.
on the nose for this one and also for good reason because Tampa's secondary has been an issue
really just Tampa's defense and the Rams have been straight nails this season.
They're coming off a massive win against Seahawks last week.
I don't see how they don't keep it rolling this week.
Also, we didn't touch on it.
But Devonte Adams, 1,000th career reception for a touchdown.
last week.
Nice.
How sweet it is.
Pretty good.
Very nice.
But as for my prediction, right, Chris, were you going to give yours first?
I, uh, rants.
All right.
This should be, um, if you look at their records and how they played the season, you think
this is a good game, but I think we're at the point where as much as look, I think we all
love Baker Mayfield here, but the injuries are really starting to catch up to them.
I mean, you got.
Luke got a key back, but the interior of the line is still a mess.
Bucky Irving might play, but I mean, that's nice, but still Godwin's not even back.
And teams are quickly learning that if you double team in Bucca, you know, they're going to
pretty much stifle their offense.
And the defense, the only good defender they have is Jamel Dean.
He's been solid.
Unfortunately, you can make the game plan.
All right, there's Jamel Dean.
Let's throw where he's not.
And you got Pucca, you got Devante Adams, you got Chiron on the ground, too many options to gash a buck's defense that's hurt as well.
So give me the Rams.
Chuck?
I said the Rams.
Bucks are too injury riddle right now for me to have any hope that Baker can somehow pull this victory out of defeat.
I think Matthew Stanford will play well against this.
defense. I think
Pooka and Nekua will have
a good game over 100 yards
easy and potentially at touchdown. I think
Tyrone Williams will have a good game on the ground.
I think the Rams overall are just
a better team right now than the Bucks.
Bucks in general are just in a heap
of trouble.
If they lose this, say they lose this game
and we'll talk about Panthers
and the Niners in a second, but
if they lose this game and the Panthers,
go to Levi Stadium and upset the Niners on Monday night.
They're not the division leader anymore.
So this is, I mean, yeah, you're assuming that maybe the Niners win,
but you really don't know at this rate,
because the Panthers are another team where they could catch some heat
and take down a team like the Niners.
And they're right there.
They're right on the Bucksail.
Since we were talking about it, let's just get into it.
Monday night football, 49ers and the Panthers.
And Niners are favored in this game, good reason, by seven points at home.
And I've been talking this talk about the Panthers, you know,
there's just the potential that they get the upset on Monday night.
But, I mean, seeing the way Brock Purdy played against the Cardinals last week.
golly like that you there is the noticeable difference of having brock purdy as your quarterback
compared to mac jones and this offense is kind of back to the levels that we've been
seeing uh give me the diners stay hot i went with the upset i went with the panthers
i i believe in this team to get the job done this time prime time this is bryce
Young's coming out party. I need to see it on Monday. I want to see it. I think I'm going
to see it. I think they're going to pull it off against the 49ers because they don't look
like a complete team right now. And I hope Bryce Young plays well because I think he is the future
of that franchise. See, yeah. You know, I like Panthers with the upset as well. Sure,
Purdy looks good, but sure you beat up the Cardinals defense. But the Panthers have one of the more
underrated units, I think, in the league.
And that Niners' defense is terrible.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I'm expecting a shootout.
And I think Carolina is going to go into Santa Clara and come out with a win.
Give me Carolina.
This for me, this is Bryce Young's real prove-it game for Carolinas in general.
Yeah, we were talking about that earlier, too.
This is like the first primetime game that Bryce Young's had, like, like,
Somewhat big primetime game, especially against a team like the Niners.
So this is, it should be interesting to watch.
And, you know, you guys have the Panthers.
I kind of like the Panthers to cover on Monday night.
Spreads at seven.
I can see them covering seven.
All right.
Anything else you guys want to touch on from this game or any other game for that matter?
No, not really.
All right, cool.
We're going to take a quick break when we come back.
I'm going to talk some Thursday night football recap.
of the Bills and the Texans.
This is the Fulmariski podcast.
I've always showed it in the staff sheet,
but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws,
back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.
Boy, oh boy, what a wild finish we just have for Thursday night football.
Texan shut down the bills.
second year in a row 23 to 19 what a finish what a damn finish uh you have the combination of
you know Texans getting eight sacks against Josh Allen unbelievable and the Texans giving
up no sacks themselves Woody Marks had himself a solid day Josh Allen ended up thrown two
picks uh James Cook rushed for over 100 yards this was a weird one Cleo Secure 100
or 10 yards and shit most of them came on fourth and 27 what a what a play call fourth and
27 ladder just the hook and ladder how about that and freaking got him into scoring position
but man texan's defense was nails tonight straight nails eight sacks two interceptions and
jeez like that's three in a row for the texans that's three in a row they're yeah they're five and five
six and five or six and five sorry like that's insane
we saw this team as dead in the water
and now they're six and five with a winning record just knocked off the bills
all of a sudden we're it feels like
we're looking at the Texans in a different light and the Bills as a team that I'll get to
the Bills in a moment. But the Texans with Davis Mills and no C.J. Stroud, three wins in a row.
And now they've won four of their last five.
Insane.
Many reactions from you guys.
CJ, you can start.
Oh, my God.
Look, I saw the Texans with that seven-point lead, and I said to myself,
well, as a Pats fan, I want them to lose, but I know Josh Allen.
I've watched Josh Allen.
This is going to be one of those things where, you know, he's going to have the game-winning
drive, and, you know, that's what I was bracing myself for.
And that was reinforced when on 4th and 27, they converted with a wild-ass, like, high school level,
like hook-in ladder.
like that's usually don't see that in the pros and i'm like oh my god it's not going to happen
and then the texas defense clutched up got them to fourth down fourth and one and then of course
the bills jump so it's fourth and six so now you have to pass it and josh allen throws
the game losing interception and you want to know it's funny i saw the flag and you had mcdermit
and allan gesturing for the defense let me just say a plus acting job by the ref who
literally said pass interference takes a breath on the offense like that is some look i don't watch
it but that's a wwe level nonsense if i've ever seen it because you know that that man he knew
he was going to make the call of the night and yeah and that's all she wrote houston
upsets buffalo in houston and i feel like what it came down to is uh buffalo outgained them
Buffalo outgained them by over 60 yards.
They have more passing yards.
They have more rushing yards.
They have more yards of play.
They, you know, they, I won't say dominated tie up possession, but got it 3240 to the Texans, 27, 38.
Not sure how that adds up, but whatever.
They, you know, but at the end of the day, and keep in mind, they had a better third down conversion.
They went five of 16 compared to Houston who went to a 12.
So when you look at these, you say, oh, hey, they must have won.
But Chris said it already.
Eight sacks.
The Texans defense got to Josh Allen eight times.
And you can tell if the end, Al was banged up, especially on that final drive, he was doing this with his hand.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's a little hurt.
And on top of that, even though Buffalo out gained them and had the ball for longer,
average, more yards of play, better third down efficiency, at the end of the day, what
The difference was, this might sound weird.
Houston played a clean game.
They are a clean-er game.
Because the name of the game, not just sacks, that's not the name of the game here.
Takeaways.
Josh Allen, two really bad interceptions along with a fumble.
The fumble wasn't his.
That was Shakir's.
But, yeah, you turn over the ball three times.
Texans have the best defense in the league now, hands down.
And, yeah, so obviously, I said the fourth down interception.
That was just a killer.
But the other one, I know it was a tipped ball, but I do put that on Alan.
He telegraphed it.
He was staring down his target, and Aziz Al-Shahir jumped the route, batted into the air.
That was still something he shouldn't have thrown with a lurking linebacker.
Chris, you're a former QB.
You know that.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, like, it was turnovers.
And, you know, that's usually the old adage, right?
You know, the team that turns over the ball less wins.
And that's how, that's just.
how it came down. Davis Mills had a respectable day, I'd say, 16 of 30, not the best,
but 153 yards, not the best, two touchdowns, and they got the most important stat, the W.
Yeah, we were talking before, we resumed the pod and watching the game and whatnot,
and I was like, I mean, that's, you said it too, like, that was the type of shit that I ran in
high school when you needed a, when we needed a big play, it was late, and we needed something.
and it's like how they ran it and how we run it it's not even really a hook per se it's more just like a 10 yard dig
but you kind of just sit in an area in the zone just kind of sit there and then you got another guy opposite side of the field crossing it's basically just two crossers just meeting in the middle essentially and that's what the bills ran there that's i think that's more what you see now rather than an actual hook route but um anyways uh yeah like jaws
on the floor when that OPI was called.
Jaws on the floor.
Tuck, your thoughts.
Where do I begin?
First and foremost, congratulations to Houston, Texas.
They played a game on defense.
Eight sacks, Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter had a game.
As a matter of fact, the entire front seven had a game.
They couldn't block them.
And if it wasn't one person, it was another.
If it wasn't the two pass rushes, it was the detackles getting involved.
It's just, they were just hitting.
him one after another. But then I was like, when I looked at the offense, they weren't moving the
ball in the second half. I was like, they need to start moving this ball because things will start
happening where Josh Allen will start moving the ball. And he'll get a field goal here. And then he'll
get this miraculous touchdown and win the game. I was like, please don't let this happen. So when
Houston Texans got the ball for the last time and they went three and out, I was like, with a little
over three minutes left, you're going to give the ball to Josh Allen? Is that really the best
thing to do here? Whatever. I accepted it, and I was like, hopefully this defense can stand
tall. I was, they were giving me hope, and then all of a sudden, fourth and 27 had, and I was
like, oh, no, they're about to win this game. No, no, they're about to win this game. And then
Josh Allen, the win interception on fourth down, absolutely could not throw that ball, especially off
back foot. That was a bad throw, a bad decision, which ultimately caused them the game.
I'm not blaming the whole thing on Josh Allen. He had no help from his O-line the entire game.
Well, I understand it Deere Hunter had a field day with them. Just all around good effort by the Texans.
They did just enough not to lose this game, and the bills still have more work to do.
And the AFC, this just shows how wide open the AFC is right now. There is no clear-cut content.
tender in the AFC in my eyes.
100% agree.
This is, yeah, this is evidence of that.
I mean, especially when you have a game where you sack Josh Allen,
like they were saying Josh Allen was sacked for five plus times,
for the first time since the week one of 23 of the 2020.
Yeah.
insane
That's
That's really all I got left to say about the game in general
But you know
Texans as we mentioned
Their season's still very much alive
They're six and five
The Bills
Well now they're seven and four
You know we were talking about
The Bills in general
And how you know
With them losing to New England
And then losing to the Dolphins
Now they're really like
They're really two games behind
Now they're three games behind
And the Patriots coming up.
And still with the Patriots coming up, yeah.
And right now your upcoming schedule, it's on the easier side,
but you have the Steelers next week.
The Bengals.
They got the Eagles.
Yeah, Bengals the week after that.
The Patriots on December 14th, the Browns, the Eagles on the 28th,
as you mentioned, and then the Jets on week 18.
Yeah, these are not giving me games at all.
They have to win out to make the playoffs convincingly.
Yes.
I think 13 and 4, they get in safely, but it's like 12 and 5, 11 and 6.
That might be a problem.
Yeah, they're now two and a half, I believe, games behind the Patriots.
And the Patriots, you know, they keep saying, oh, easy schedule.
You know, the bills and Pat's got to be tough.
The Pats have to play the Ravens with Lamar.
So those are going to be tough.
But at this point for Buffalo, the reason why I bring that up is because I don't want to count any eggs before they hatch, but it's not enough that they win, but they almost need New England to lose.
And you're kind of teetering at that point where you don't, when it comes to least winning your division, you might not necessarily control your own destiny.
And for Buffalo, their playoff aspirations took a hit.
granted not by a lot they went from 94 to 87 which you know it's not ideal but you're still
going to make it Houston on the other hand they went from I believe high 20s low 30s playoff
probability to now 49 so you've gone from leaning unlikely to now it being essentially a coin flip
and like I said defense wins championships I mean I'm not saying they're a contender but
at least defense wins games defense travels and
And for what it's worth, yeah, like we said, three straight, General Mills getting the better of Josh Allen and that Bill's defense.
And as long as that Texan's defense is healthy, then they're always going to be in games.
I mean, you heard what Al Michaels said on the call when he's like, oh, how Buffalo was getting, just getting pile driven by.
Houston so much that they had to go back to scripting plays.
But you always say, like, oh, you could tell they're scripting again.
It's like, eight sacks, three takeaways.
Hall of Fame type defensive performance.
That's hanging in the Louvre.
Also, on a small, kind of unrelated note,
Keon Coleman, second game is a healthy scratch.
Yes, I didn't notice that.
And my dipshit friend tried to trade him to me for,
Chris Godwin, amongst others, of course, amongst others, along with
Keon Coleman. But I was like, are you shitting me right now?
Trying to pawn him off on me.
Jeez, man.
That is, that's heinous. That is heinous.
That's evil. That's some evil nonsense right there.
Yeah. And, you know, Patriots, Twitter, of course, is just all up and all, like,
everyone's in a fucking tizzy from earlier today because of first taking SPN.
already went on and ran about it earlier today too
and now this game's going on
and everyone's just like, you're calling this guy
the fucking MVP?
May's King tweeted
so Josh Allen threw a pick six,
got bailed by a penalty, defense held
them to a field goal, and then got a
kick return touchdown. I'm supposed to believe he's
the MVP. Yeah, this
is, this game's really going to
that's going to hurt
Allen's MVP odds.
Yeah.
Oh yeah. Hunter, this definitely
does 100% I mean this is back-to-back weeks where he throws two interceptions granted last
week he had six touchdowns but either way chop it up how you want this is back-to-back weeks
to intercept like he this is been a few weeks in a row now where he has been showing signs of
his rookie self like the 20 turnover Josh Allen is kind of returned
he has no help give him a break he has
He had help, and he didn't win with said help.
And look, I'm sorry.
Like, no, I don't, I don't care.
It's like, oh, he doesn't have help.
Well, maybe Buffalo should have thought of that before throwing a bag at Curtis,
Samuel and Josh Palmer, you know, drafting that bum Kionn Coleman, who, by the way,
everybody on this podcast said was going to be a bum.
Of course, I led the charge, but that's either here nor there.
But, and, yeah, and, you know, and then, you know, you know,
the fan base practically rode
Stefan Diggs out of town and now look
so let's not
play this game that he has no help
that's just that's nonsense
so I'm just
saying like that's
they're not I don't
they're they're pretenders they're another
one where I am
slowly moving them into the
Pretenders Club
you know yeah
I mean at the same time too I feel like we always
end up doing this with the
bills and then they go to the a fc championship or whatever so it's just for the chiefs take their
lunch as always yes um but what i will say too is that this is the second time that josh has had a
four plus interception uh stretch in three games um earlier the first one being when the bills were
uh falling apart for that weird stretch where they lost the pats and the falcons uh if you guys
remember that um and josh down through four interceptions during that three game stretch
also kind of got sacked a good amount uh not as much of course in the last three games that
the bills have played now uh that being this being 11 sacks and the other time now being
eight sacks but still a pretty high number and also that no help bullshit he still won
MVP last year with no help.
Fricking A-Tuck.
Why are you trying to defend Josh Allen?
He stole a MVP away from Lamar.
I just got to accept that.
He has no control over it.
It's those damn voters that I have to just accept.
Even though Lamar made first team all pro with the same voters, they just decided MVP needs a different thing.
I just accept it.
I have no ill will against Josh Allen.
It is what it is.
I move on.
I don't think Josh Allen is better than Lamar, but he's in the same echelon.
But again, my problem is, if you guys rate him the same way, hold him to the same standard, you guys hold Lamar to.
That's all I ask.
And he's never held to.
Dude.
You guys, I'm just saying, I do know that I like Lamar better than I like Alan.
That is like a well-established fact on this show.
Oh, thanks.
No, I'm not even saying just to say that you know this.
And I also think that
Forget being let off the hook
I mean, and you know I've said this before
Of all the criticisms people take Lamar
You know, they give them to Lamar
I say take all those criticisms
Crump them up into a ball
Cut that ball in half and give the other half to Harbaugh
Because that guy's a fraud walking
And speaking of frauds
Can we finally admit
Sean McDermott's not good?
I'm going to say it every week
I don't like that guy
I don't, I don't know.
We say he's not good, but then he'll make an AMC championship appearance.
Okay, how do I put this?
You're not, okay, maybe he's solid, but you're not going to win with Sean McDermott.
Picture this.
You can take all the head coaches and put him in a tier list.
He's a tier two coach.
That's just the way things are.
And, like, I don't care if he wins them games.
What good is it when, you know, he's always tripping at the finish line?
Well, it gets to a point where if Alan is playing statistically well and they're still not winning and he's putting up numbers, they're still not winning, that's coaching.
They're winning.
They're just not winning the one thing that's been within their breath.
Yeah, at one point do you say maybe it's coaching?
And I'm just saying, when the bills go against the team, they're more or less evenly
matched with when there's no clear advantage he get McDermick gets out coached he got out
coached by Rahim Morris tuck Rahim Morris that that one was a big but I will say that
defense that Atlanta has is no joke when they're healthy yeah no when they're healthy but yeah and
still like he got out coached by Ravel he just got out coached by Damico Ryan's he got out
coached by Mike McDaniel yeah and that that wasn't even like
like a fluky game or a slug fast now my enemy ran away with that yeah i don't know how
i feel about the bills because they still have like tough matchups up ahead they still have the
patriots and they still have the evils if they lose those two games their wild card spot is in
jeopardy like severely i don't think they're winning them the division the league is a little
this point it's unlikely unlikely unless somehow the Patriots just crumbling they get with
like unless Drake May gets a season ending injury knock on wood that doesn't happen but don't wish
that negativity on me rich Bobby he knocked on wood he knocked on wood I did I did I knock on wood
man like barring something like that barring like the entire past team goes down once again
knock on wood that doesn't happen uh then I don't see them winning unless they somehow pull it off
in Foxborough against you guys.
I don't see it happening.
Even still.
God forbid it happens.
God forbid it.
I will actually put a bullet in my head if that happens.
If the bills beat the Patriots in Foxborough,
I will be putting a bullet in my head.
Don't do that.
Then I have to schedule RSS and I don't want to do it.
Yeah, that's true.
You know,
hey, for everybody out there,
that is not a cry for help.
Go ahead and die for me.
C.J. Come on.
like why would you see you goober people watching on youtube will see my mouth not moving
go ahead and die for me because you are a net negative on society i just said some terrible
stuff there cj and you're just two and a half sex i can really hey chris go ahead and die for me
your net negative on society there i can say it for real oh we we have fun we have um that is not
a cry for help i am i am okay but seriously
though, like, it might be the end of the world for me if the bills win in Foxborough.
Also, Bill Anderson has double-jointed sex now.
Yeah.
It doesn't have to be second behind Miles Garrett and defensive player of the year, I would think.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No one's catching Miles.
No.
Probably not.
All right.
That is all scheduled content that we have for you today.
Anything else that popped up during the last few hours that we want to bring up?
in between our breaks
I think there might have been
oh yeah yeah
apparently
allegedly this is some Texans news
so you know how it's like
Woody Marks and Nick Chubb
and they're waiting for
Mixon to return
Oh, Mixon's not returning
Yeah Ian Rappaport said a few hours ago
Mixon's not coming back
like as a they've shut them down as a joe mixon fantasy owner for a dynasty league i could have told
you that like preseason week one also uh the niners you know uh they got purdy back mac jones
on the bench and some niners beat reporters are close to the team speculate that the niners
could fetch quote as high as a second round pick in a trade for mac jones i myself agree
Mac and cheese goes for a second round pick.
Look, if someone's booting up the Mac for a second round pick,
nah, nah, that GM's got to be fired.
Also, before we go, one more thing for real this time.
Speaking of GMs that need to be fired,
Terry fought not of the Falcons.
I was thinking about the Falcons.
I was pondering, you know,
taking my daily constitutional, you know,
a walk for the uneducated among you.
I was thinking about Terry Fontenot, and remember we were talking about, oh, you know, you signed Kurt Cousins and you drafted Michael Pennix.
Now you have neither, and now you don't even have a first round pick for this year, which is going to the Rams, and it's probably going to be a top 10 pick, and the Rams are already good.
Yeah, now off with his job.
I remember that because they gave up that pick to get James Pierce, Jr.
They overcorrected the edge rush rush issue.
They drafted Jalen Walker, then they drafted James Pierce.
I don't think they over-corrected.
They just needed that. It's not cricket.
I think they needed that because they've been trying to fix that position for years.
No, they really just attempted now.
They just kind of let it pester.
They had that one weird-ass breakout year from Vic Beasley,
only for him to never do that again.
He's 2016.
Yeah, in 2016.
And they never did anything since.
They never even attempted.
Oh, yeah, they drafted.
They drafted continually, but I don't count that.
They did, right.
They got Matthew Judon, but he was past his prime.
yeah so then they just decided we're going to attack this position in the draft and they
successfully did it their defense is a lot better because they can actually generate pressure
yeah they're also like three and seven and they don't have their first room pick and you
the other saying when you have two quarterbacks you don't have any well they don't have two
quarterbacks they got nothing you've got you've got mr khakis and michael now i have two bad knees
Pennix.
He had too bad news when he came into the league.
No, he had one, because there was that one knee that got essentially rebuilt in the lab,
but now it's the other, now it's the other knee.
So, yeah, it's over.
Get rid of Terry Fontenop, Falcons.
Do it, do it for yourself.
Do it for yourself.
You deserve it.
I wonder who they're going to draft for the second round pick.
You, lineback out of Dean College.
May as well be.
That would be nice, but the Rams are eight and two.
and like second in the
E, and second in the NFC.
So if they get a top 10 pick on top of that,
they might be a problem next year.
I think they're projected like the eighth pick right now?
Right now, yes.
Eighth or something like that.
Sorry, I just got to bring that up,
just saying, like, we got to get your phone on the same.
All right, let me, I'll do you one better.
Antonio Brown accused of murder.
Bingo.
All right, no, it's no longer just,
it's no longer just attempted.
actual murder now?
Wait, I don't know.
I thought it was attempted.
I know.
I'm not starting this right now.
I'm not starting this.
I was just trying to be funny.
We're not starting this.
I guess we're not starting this.
I definitely
got that one wrong,
but I was just trying to be funny.
I wasn't actually trying to start a conversation
about Antonio Brown.
You got to leave that after.
You got to leave that.
You got to leave humor to me and talk.
Like, come on.
Shut.
Shut.
Shut.
Shut the fuck.
Anything serious you guys want to talk about before we log on?
No.
Oh, no, I'm ready to end the show.
No, it's been over an hour.
Adams probably gnashing his teas somewhere.
God love him.
Yeah, that'll do it for us today.
Thank you for tuning in to another Friday episode of the Fuller'sky podcast.
What did you got to say?
Let me fix the screen.
Let me fix the screen.
It's fix my thing because I'm in an adjochoke.
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