The Fumblerooski Podcast - We Need to Talk... -Ep 387 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

On today’s episode, Micah Parsons gets a sack in his return to Dallas, but a tie on Sunday Night? The Chiefs are alive again, but are the Flock dead? Tyreek Hill dislocated knee, set to miss extended time. What does this mean for his career? Is Tyreek Hill a Hall of Famer? Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more including the Week 4 Top 3 Bottom 3!

On today's episode of the Fumblerusky podcast, the Chiefs improved a two-and-two and get a crucial victory over the Baltimore Ravens. And boy, are they in trouble. Injuries galore are striking them again. Eagles survive another late Baker comeback. But Baker ended up turning the ball over and the Eagles get the win and beat the Buccaneers. The first time in a while, actually. Eagles are now four and out.

And the Packers and the Cowboys, 40 to 40 tie. That's a score of Gami. After that, week four, top three, bottom three. This is the Pulmaruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.

He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fulmorewski podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. He's C.J. Madero, some Chris Costich, week four of the NFL season as come and gone. We're starting to get a better layout of how the league is going to look this season. But, boy, there are still a lot of questions, especially in the late afternoon, the Chiefs beating the Ravens 37 to 20, and this was not close from start to finish.

Chiefs went out, or Ravens actually scored first. Chiefs were able to come back and get on the board, ended up taking the lead and never let up. Lamar didn't have a great game, had a couple turnovers in the first half, then had a hamstring injury, and they showed the replay of it too. And it was a little,

lot at first you didn't really see anything or first they were like oh lamar was just in the blue tent and cooper rush isn't in the game now and uh then they show the a replay of what it could have possibly been and you didn't really see anything but at that point the game was already lost ravens just had no juice uh in the chiefs back from the dead i don't really know what else to say it just when you think that they're dead in the water they pull themselves right back out of it. That's really what we saw here. And the chiefs have been the Ravens Daddy's now for the last few years.

They're now six and one against Baltimore. They got their number. That's also just one of the main storylines here. But along with that, it is injuries have started to mount up now. So you got Lamar with his. his hamstring injury. Roquant Smith got hurt as well. You got another player that's out for the season with a neck injury.

I'm pulling it up right now. Roquant Smith, great two hamstring strain, miss a few weeks. And your defensive tackle. Enomdi Maduboke. Terrible. Terrible. I'm sorry. It's just Matabike.

Don't let Tucker hear you mispronounce that. I'm sorry. Out for the season with the neck injury, though. Prayers up for him. Hopefully, honestly serious enough where he's going to miss the rest of the season, but hopefully it doesn't derail his career. Neck injuries are always very scary, so hoping for a full recovery on that. But Baltimore, they are, now you look at Baltimore and you're thinking,

boy, they are looking dead in the water. right now. And I did not like the way Baltimore played at all. And I think Tony Romo throughout the game kind of summed it up best. Derek Henry, besides Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry is your best offensive player and you need to get him

the ball as they proceeded to not give him the football. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes had himself a day, four touchdowns. Question is, how much in trouble is Baltimore.

I mentioned not giving the ball to Derek Henry. Only eight carries in this game. Only eight. They rushed for 9.8 yards per carry, but that's kind of overblown from the 71-yard touchdown run that Justice Hill had in the fourth quarter during Garbo time. CJ, your thoughts. You mentioned the Chief's perpetual ownership of the

Ravens, right? Oh, my God. Just get to a point where, hell, even the Buffalo Bills can beat Kansas City in the regular season, at least. If you're the Ravens, you got nothing.

And, like you said, you look at the stats, right? The Ravens had, you know, I mean, you look at their rushing yards, right? Like you said, they had 166 rushing yards. Okay, cool. Almost half was literally from one play. It was literally from Justice Hill, right? You said 71 yards. I mean, granted, that's not half, but close enough, you know. And not to mention Hill had 76 total yards on three carries. So it's literally just one play, one fluke playing garbage time was able to cut it down to, oh boy, a three score game. In reality, it's probably 37 to 13. And then there's the In-Gave. You know, just when you think the Ravens finally got over their injury bug,

you know, Lamar strung together a few healthy seasons, the defense was turning it around. They said, ha-ha, just kidding, now you are going to be injured again. Just fates have a funny way of doing that. I tell you what. But I just, I don't know what it's going to take. I sincerely don't. We just, we need to have a talk about how serious of a team the Baltimore Ravens are. I was willing to look past their loss of the bills as, you know, week one jitters, right?

Losing to the lions, you know, a little concerning because what have I said before? If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best, right? however you cannot beat these good teams and yeah i agree city was one and two coming in and yeah they're not the kansas city chief team yeah that went to the super bowl these past two years but still as long as they have the homes there's nothing to sneeze at i think we can all agree so now you cannot be buffalo you cannot be kansas city you can't beat detroit who's looking like one of the best teams in the NFC. So where exactly are you?

Because you're not Super Bowl contenders anymore. After this loss, I genuinely do not view them as Super Bowl contenders just as it sits right now. Obviously, contenders on the fringes can come and go. We know this. It happens every year. But I feel like they definitely have taken the next few weeks and earn their way back into that conversation. But nominee about a BK is out for

the year. Roquan Smith is banged up. He's going to miss a few weeks. Marlon Humphrey's going to miss a few weeks. Lamar Jackson hamstring injury, I know he's listed as questionable. But as a Patriots fan who watch Christian Gonzalez suffer

a hamstring injury, they can linger. See, that's the thing. Hamstring's tricky. It's this weird little injury limbo, there's three types of injuries, turf toe, high ankle sprains, and hamstrings that are caught from that same cloth of maybe you're out a week, maybe you're out two months, we may never know. And that's just not what the Ravens need right now. And a lot of it too, even beyond health, because make no mistake, my fellow football fans, they were getting smoked while Lamar was in the game. Lamar's presence changes absolutely nothing. I want to make that abundantly

clear. And it's going to make the road going forward a hell a lot harder. So when I say we need to have a talk, we have a talk about John Harbaugh. You know if you've been watching this show for the past few years, I'm not a fan. I am still not a fan. I continue to be not a fan. So what's it going to take literally what's it going to take and don't give me the okay he has a ring that ring is over a decade old his ring is literally like close to like 12 13 years old the NFL they what have you done for me lately league and you all know what he's done for you lately nothing i see lamar doing things i see lamar pulling his weight but whatever happened to like john harbaugh who's supposed to this good leader, this elite game planner, because the Buffalo Bills and Kansas City Chiefs

just end up taking their lunch every postseason. And even our good friend Justin Tucker, who could not be here today, who is a Ravens fan, is finally starting to voice his frustrations with Harbaugh. And there are other Ravens fans that I know that have said maybe it's time Harbaugh gets the blame Lamar gets. And I've said this for a while. So I guess for the Ravens, what's it going to take for you to pull the trigger and make a change? Or at bare minimum, get rid of your defensive coordinator, Zach Orr. He's not it. They're missing Mike McDonnell badly, because you may know Mike McDonnell was their defensive coordinator before he became head coach of the Seahawks.

They're missing him. Like, they still have not adjusted. Zach Orr, God love him, should not be a defensive coordinator. or maybe he could be, but I think he was just thrust up into that role too soon because I believe he was their linebackers coach and all of a sudden change, I just don't think he was ready. And the injuries aren't going to help, but it was not good to begin with. And that's something that I'm concerned about.

Is that they're going to be like, oh, we're not good because of the injuries, which I say, no, you were not good long before that. Yeah, and, you know, this last few years, is, you know, this Baltimore, like, Ravens have had teams that were capable of making a Super Bowl run, but they never, as you mentioned, never were able to get past the bills and the chiefs because they kept sunning them, sunning them the entire time, year after year. So, yeah, to your point, like, if I had the choice, I would probably see how the rest of this season goes, like, and I think this would be. it for John Harbaugh, to be honest, but as you mentioned, with the injuries, it makes it hard to, makes it hard to kind of fire a guy over it, you know? But, or at least have that.

He's well past his expiration date. That's the problem I have. Yeah. I mean, does that make sense? Yeah. No, I agree. It's not the injuries, and I'm worried that he's. going to use the injuries as an excuse kind of like remember uh it's kind of what the it's what uh

the bengals do you know i meant not the bengals uh zach taylor right he's and that's what he's going to do again whenever the bengals are hurt and they peter out even though zack taylor is a no not good coach he says you can't fire me it's the injuries and i know harbaugh is going to do the same thing. He's escaped this before, and if the Ravens and Steve Bishotti have any sense, it's time, I think it's time for him to go. Yeah. We'll see how these injury, how long these injuries end up lasting if they end up hampering the season that much. I know looking at the schedule right now, Texans, Rams, Bears, Bears, and Dolphins in the month of October or that those are the October opponents. So you could get yourself back on track with, uh, with that, with that

least two of those games. I can tell you that much. All right. We're going to take a quick break when we come back. The Eagles get the win in Tampa Bay. Baker Mayfield almost did it again. This is the Fulmaruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.

Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fulmore Ruski podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio in Secret Weapon Consulting. ECJM, Chris. Eagles get the win. A Ruski game of the week. Great pick.

Glad we didn't pick the chiefs or the Ravens over this one. Yeah. I know a lot of people had that as their game of the week, but now this was fun. far more interesting. Yeah. Two undefeated teams. Eagles, surprisingly, always have a tough time with Tampa Bay, including last season or just the last few years in general, with Jalen Hertz as their quarterback.

The Philadelphia Eagles have now not lost a game with Jalen Hertz as their quarterback. since this time last season where they lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Insane. Insane. It goes to show how, like, yeah, obviously we talk shit or people talk shit all the time about how Jalen Hertz is in a top five quarterback because the lack of, throwing that they have in the offense because they don't need to, but, you know, he does show time and time again that when they do need him to throw the football, aka last week against the Rams, he ends up showing up. Now, I will say the offense in the second half, the passing

offense in the second half was almost non-existent in total 130 yards for Jalen Hertz. And then, Of course, A.J. Brown went to Twitter and, of course, had to stir some shit up. Get this man in New England. Get this man in New England right now. I need this man in a Pats uniform with Mike Frable. Get that wide receiver diva one energy over here right now. That would make so great with Stefan Diggs. Oh, my goodness.

But how? Oh, here's the tweet itself. It's actually I think it's a Bible quote in general If you're not, it is If you're not welcome, not listen to Quietly withdraw, do not make a scene Shrug your shoulders and be on your way.

Thank you Adam. That was pretty good. That was great timing. So yeah, he posted that Kind of stirred it up a little bit On social media And I think he tweeted out like an hour later After the game and was like

I love you all I'm like I don't know Just trying to cool Cool attentions I guess But definitely odd He had nine targets though I don't think many people realize that

He ended up with nine targets Only two catches on those nine So Does he have a right to be mad at that point Well, that is the question of the day. It always feels like A.J. Brown on the Eagles, especially since around the halfway point of last season, you know, where he's like reading books on the sidelines and stuff. Yeah. Like, don't get me wrong.

They're winning, but they can obviously win without him. And it just feels more and more. I could be wrong, like jamming like a square peg into a right. round hole. I mean, sure, maybe you could get the cohesion. Maybe you could get the square peg to fit in the round hole, but it's not, but it's not where it's supposed to be. You know? Yeah. Yeah. But I just, like you said, the nine targets, a lot of them, this is the other side of the coin. I felt like Hertz was forced feeding him. Because they're, because, you know, A.J. Brown is obviously the wide receiver one, right?

We can all agree. Oh, like you should force feed him sometimes. I mean, you should, but there's a difference between force feeding and making some ill-advised throws into double coverage, sailing passes, just throwing the ball in his vicinity and hoping he'll grab it. And maybe you could argue that he should be reeling those in. But if it's not coming naturally, then maybe you don't do that because you're only going to hurt yourself. And when you're just trying to force the football in AJ Brown's direction,

when you're force feeding him and it's just not working, then that opens the door for teams like Tampa where you have your foot on their neck for them to come back and make it a game. Because that's exactly what happened. You saw it just as well as I did. Like when you're trying to force it one way and it's not working, you let the other. team back in and it only ended up being a one score game and yeah jalen hurts wasn't the best you only 130 yards 1524 a lot of short passes two touchdowns though through the air no picks 62 yards on the ground you can't hate it i mean if it works it works but i'm going to be honest i'm getting really tired of wow the jalen hurts stuff now that holy

Yeah. For the listeners, A.J. Brown currently on pace for just 624 receiving yards, according to ESPN projections, through the first four weeks. Get them out of there. Get them out of there. Get them out of there. I mean, if he doesn't get the system, which he Loki kind of doesn't, then get him out. because, as I was saying, this actually ties into that stat where he's on pace for 624 yards and unhappy apparently. I'm just, I'm tired. I am so just tired of the, oh, will he be traded? Is he unhappy?

Have they played this big? Will he won't he? Will he? Will he demand a trade? Is he happy? Oh, oh, this is it. This time. He's reading a book on the sideline.

Oh, he's posting things that are cryptic. oh what could it mean i'm done all right oh but where there's smoke there's fire look nine times out of ten nothing ever happens so obviously something by the way last week last week chris he had a he had a good game did he not and everyone said oh my god he's back he had over a hundred yards and a touchdown oh my god he's back and now we went from we're back to it's over and now that's what we're doing. This weird manic highs and lows. I can't keep doing this. It's such a waste of energy. A.J. Brown, my friend, even though I never met you, like, demand a trade or don't. Like, I'm tired of these cryptic tweets. I'm tired. And I hate it when all athletes do it.

It's like, all right, dude, dude, dude, we're not passing notes in grade school for the love of God just if you want out then try to get out but if you don't stop I mean heck even the Super Bowl even though the Eagles won and they manhandled Kansas City as you recall there is still some noise in the background that AJ Brown didn't really do a whole lot

and when that is one of the big takeaways of the Super Bowl where you won convincingly you know, then that's maybe a problem. And for reference, this is another stat that came up, this is for our listeners if you're listening on Spotify or wherever we have it, A.J. Brown has failed to reach 1,000 receiving yards just once in his six years in the league. He had 869 yards in 2021.

So the fact that he would be on pace for a career low, just under 600 yards, 624, I believe, that's actually a huge problem. Yeah. I agree. I think the problem, you know, you're tired of all this manic highs and lows. The problem that I have is that it's like the problem is that there's too many lows, right? Like, A.J. Brown, like,

the problem is he doesn't have enough high games for this to not be a problem. You know, like, you want your receiver. to get like that's the like nine targets a game is basically what Justin Jefferson and Jamar chase are getting right like that's what you want to do the problem is that he's not getting nine targets obviously you got nine targets again the last two games but even if you just take a look back at last year that wasn't really the case a lot of the games um I'd have to look back or if Adam can find that on the fly but just think that there's like too many lows for the

to not be a problem at this point and the question or the question that people or the argument that people should be having now is whether or not he should be traded to begin with or just get the fuck out of Philly in general. Yeah. No, I hear you. Because just based on the eye test alone, he probably should be.

If he's unhappy and there are all these cryptic tweets, and they're trying to force feed him. Because here's the thing. I know you said you should force feed a receiver. I'd argue you shouldn't. If he's open, he's open. If it's not flowing and it's not, you know, and if it's not working, then what?

Like, if it's not flowing, that means it's not a fit. The chemistry should be there. And honestly, I just don't think the chemistry is there. And if it's not, then he should get out. because that's at least how it looks to me. Yeah, no, I agree. Adam said that he has a staff for us as well. I don't know if you,

I don't know if you were making a banner of it, if you just want to say it in my ear. Okay, I'm repeat. Week one. So week one, A.J. Brown, one catch eight yards. Week two. against the Chiefs, he ended up having five catches, 27 yards. Week three against the Rams, six catches, 109 yards.

And obviously, one touchdown, obviously, most of that was in the second half of that game. And then Sunday, two catches for seven yards. That was when he got his nine targets. obviously the nine targets from the Rams as well. So obviously the first two, he's had, so three of the first four games, if we're just looking at the catch, the total yards and the catches or the receptions that he's hauling in,

not even the targets, it's not great numbers. And as wide receiver one, you want to be able to show off the numbers as much as possible. But that's, It's not really happening. Got anything else? Yeah, like I said, it might just be a chemistry thing at this point.

Yeah. I guess what ends up happening with the bucks. They're all lines depleted. Chris Godwin, this was his first week back. So obviously wasn't expecting a whole lot and didn't get a whole lot. Three catches, 26 yards. All right. We're going to take a quick break when we've got.

come back. We're going to get into our 40-40 tie on Sunday night football. This is the Fumbaruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws, back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fulmuriski podcast.

I'm Chris. Cowboys and Packers. Tie 40 to 40. Couldn't get it done in 60 minutes. They couldn't get it done in 70 minutes. This was a fun game. It's unfortunate because this was a very fun game. Went down to the wire.

Micah Parsons, his return to Dallas. By the way, CJ, did you watch any of the football night in America stuff prior to the game? like uh no i didn't watch anything prior to that game oh my god they it was one of the more ridiculous things i had ever seen because they decided to interview jerry jones on on field panel stage that they have and as that's happening micha parsons is running out of the tunnel and they're like hey jerry how does it feel to how does it feel to see that that happening. See, that player donning anything but the Dallas Cowboys star.

And just point blank being like, do you regret any of this, basically? And I just couldn't believe what I was watching for the most part. One of the most senile old man looking guys that you could ever think of. And they're just all while uh what's his face uh um used to coach for dallas during the romo era jason garrett garrison garrett yeah all while jason garris same by his size like it's okay dad it's okay

i'll hold your hand through quite the timing um micha parsons didn't have that big of a game actually um he did have one sack but uh if you watch the post game press conference or post game press conference uh post game uh with the sideline interview with dack um the sack came on a play where dack prescott actually got back to the line of scrimmage um on a scramble but NFL rulebook states like even if you get back to the line of scrimmage it still constitute anything that is less than one yard still constitutes as a attack. George Pickens had ended up getting some untapped potential just reached out of his throat

in this game. Here's the Jerry Jones pregame interview. The green and gold is a problem for me looking at it, but I had to think about the kinds of consideration that we got on the trade. I kind of, so I kind of took that as obviously it happened. I didn't want it to happen, but shit has to get done sometimes. So that's kind of how I took it as, but obviously, you know, the way that Jerry has been running this team, it's, it's really hard to, I guess, have that sort of viewpoint. And not just say, oh, yeah, just running this fucking team to the ground.

Oh, he'd never admit that. No. Your thoughts, though, on that whole thing, I guess, before we actually get into the game. Do you have any thoughts on it? I really don't. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, I didn't actually watch it go down. I just, this is just very Jerry.

Yeah. Yeah, so George Pickens, back to him. He catches 134 yards, two touchdowns. He had himself a career day. Javante Williams did good as well. over four yards carry. Dak Prescott, amazing day, 31 for 40, 319 yards, three touchdowns. Amazing quarterback play in general from these two teams.

Jordan Love, 31 for 43, 33, 337 yards, three touchdowns. It felt like, at least on the Packer side, I thought that they were just going to move the ball down, up and down the field at will all game long. But then the first quarter, it wasn't really. really happening that way. And then all of a sudden, Dallas is rattling off points. They got 16 in the second quarter. Green Bay ended up have fourth quarter points scored 17 to 14 in favor of Dallas.

31 fourth quarter points. And I think most of them might have been scored in those last like five to six minutes as well. It was a wild finish. And of course, Dallas, they get the ball to start overtime. kick the field goal Green Bay does the same thing but boy the way that they manage

the way that Jordan Love and the rest of the team handled that those that like 30 seconds or that 25 second stretch you know they get the completion on the right side they're getting up to the line but they took way too

long to get the play in and at that point there was like what eight seven eight seconds left yeah ended up being a shit play wasn't a great pass and by some miracle there was one second left um kick the field goal we end with a 40 40 tie and a scored gami as well uh 925 yards a total offense between these two teams uh packers ended up rushing for a total of 164 yards on their end. This was, I mean, the only thing to really be mad about is its eye at this point. That's really the only thing to be mad about because this was going to go down as a all-time game or possibly game of the year situation.

And ends in a tie. I couldn't get a winner. this game is just what's a tie first of all look the NFL has to get rid of ties no no yes why no no why why should they get rid of ties answer me why

for uh um for player health every other team does it or every other team does it or every other league does something similar. That's the whole, that's the only reason why overtime. What other than four major American sports can you tie in, Chris? Explain this to me.

Hockey is three on three in the regular season for overtime, and then they go straight into a shootout, whereas playoffs is continuous until you get. No, but that's not what I'm asked. My question literally was, can you tie in these other sports? No. Exactly. So football shouldn't do that either.

I think football is just a different sport in the sense of, like, there's so much more physical. Like, yeah, I mean, I understand, but. Because like, if you, like, say you get a situation like the Dallas Green Bay game, right? And the way that they're just going at each other all game. Obviously, you could say after that field goal from Green Bay, Dallas could go, could have just done the same thing, get down, kick a field goal, and that's it. Say that doesn't happen. now you're playing an extra almost a damn near extra half of football so that's five quarters

of football in one game like obviously that's great that's more i'm not going to complain about more football but i think in the player's safety standpoint like no one actually wants to be doing that all right then then god help me maybe they should just adopt what they do in college because i've really yeah no i i can get with that because it's got to change, like, in general, at least. And this isn't even about fairness or both teams should get the ball. It's just about eliminating ties. But regardless, I think they should, but that's either here nor there.

For the game itself, like you said, this had a potential to be not just a game of the year, but perhaps an all-timer. And then they just didn't do it because the football gods like to laugh at the fans, even more than they like to laugh at the Jets. And you saw Jerry Jones after the game where he's like, oh, we got what we got, they got what they got. You know, like after the game, you know, talking about that. To which I say, yeah, Jerry, what's your record?

Because, yeah, you got, they got, you know, and he's basically saying, oh, we all do a standstill. You know, he says for Jerry Jones, this is a victory. but to him I say guess what buddy you're sub 500 you're one two and one Green Bay is two one and one

they still out rank you and the fact that you can even beat them at home and the best you could do was tie them oh that's not great so when I think about Jerry Jones viewing this as a win

and that quote you just did where it's like we have to think about what are considerations that we got And you mentioned, oh, yeah, well, stuff has to get done. Do you what that reminds me of? Do tell. There's this scene from family guy where Peter Griffin wants money to buy a boat, but some shady salesman offers him a mystery box instead.

And then he's like, oh, but the mystery box could be anything. It could even be a boat. That's literally Jerry Jones's mindset when he got rid of Micah Parsons. And then he's like, oh, but we got picks. We could even draft the next Micah Parsons. Like, you had him already. And this tie, I mean, Jerry, if you're at the point in your life where you can settle for ties, then whatever, wheel yourself into the other room and watch Matlock or whatever it is, the old folks watch on reruns. But I just, I don't think this is anything to be happy about, really for either side.

Green Bay, after starting off the season as the hottest team in the league in weeks one, one and two. You lost and you tied. You lost to the Browns, by the way, and you tied with the Cowboys. Uh, I don't think Green Bay should be happy about this. I really don't. I certainly don't think Dallas should. I mean, yeah, Dallas wasn't exactly favored. But to end like this, no, this is just to go back to the drawing board type of game, you know, iron out the Kings, especially on defense and Green Bay what happened to that defense what are you just like a paper tiger now or what I don't I don't know what to tell you I would I would honestly argue this says more about the Dallas offense than it does the Green Bay defense because this is a

Dallas offense that was without CD Lamb and they were still like this Green Bay defense is still solid and um as you mentioned are the same Dallas offense that only put up 14 against Chicago? Is it that same? Are you going to ignore the 24 first half points they had against Philly and then all of a sudden a storm rolled in? Okay, and then what happened after that, Chris? What happened after that?

Yeah, they got shut out, but they fucked both teams were out of momentum. Okay, but what is the series is an elite? They also had 40 points against a giant defense. They're a run hot and cold. Yeah, they do. But it doesn't mean that you can't run hot a lot. Like, you run hot and cold and you can beat up on really weak defenses, like the Giants. And no, this does say a lot about the Packers then because, like, they still, like, why do you get carved up like this?

And why could you not hold the Browns to less points than your offense can score? I mean, I'm not going to pretend their defense was bad in that game, but there are red flags. That's the point. There are red flags. This is quickly looking like a mirage. Also, don't look now. The lions have overtaken them. No, I completely agree on...

Are the lions two and two? Are they three and one? They're not entirely. Okay, I know. Then the lions have overtaken them. So, yeah. I don't know. I think this shows that the cowboys can...

I said this, like, after the Philly game, this is probably going to be a Dallas offense that's going to be able to run with you in these high-scoring games, and they showed that. So that's kind of what I was getting at with that. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to kick it to ourselves for week four, top three, bottom three. This is the Fulmerchki podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws, back-to-back games where he has three touchdown. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.

He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Falmboroski podcast by Power 8018 Radio and Seeker Weapon Consulting. He's C.J. Madero, I'm Chris Costich. We are currently recording this now after the double-header Monday night football matchups that we had, pretty much fresh off the Broncos beat down to the Bengals, 28 to 3. but news of the night Tyree Kill

diagnosed with a dislocated knee very very gruesome injury had that close up shy and you just knew it was it was not good to say the least

so they're expecting him to miss a lot of time because with the with the dislocated knees going to most likely bring a lot of ligament tears as well, or not a lot, but multiple. So they're expecting that. So we probably won't get news about that until, well, later on Monday. So we'll see how, or later on Tuesday, I should say.

So we'll see how that ends up painting out. But, yeah, that's for a game where Miami was somewhat able to figure it out on offense a little bit. It's still one of those games where kind of did have to hold off a little bit of a last-minute rush from the Jets. Otherwise, good first win, an even worse loss at the wide receiver position. But, CJ, your thoughts before I get into what Tua is doing on the cart. I'm going to have to give the old slow clap to the Miami Dolphins. It's like, oh, did you want me to be impressed that you were in Miami and beat the Jets? Like, you were at home and beat the Jets?

Do you want me to be happy? Like, do you want me to be proud of you? Do you want me to say, it's going to be okay? Mike McDaniel's a good coach. Tyree Kills definitely not hurt, and Tua's brains definitely aren't mush. What do you want me? I mean, yeah, you know, you beat the team you're supposed to beat.

That's good. Your future is still terrible. I mean, good for you for getting your first win. I mean, it was against the Jets. That's cool. I mean, Tua was okay. 1725, 1777 yards, two touchdown. essentially, you know, he was, he's reverting back to being a game manager, it seems,

you know, very safe, very deliberate play calling, not the usual explosiveness we're seeing. But like you said, the, oh, by the way, before we do that, shout out Darren Waller, who had two touchdowns. And it felt, Aaron Waller touchdown in the big 25. What are we doing? What is my, and his Miami debut as well. Yeah, many such cases. I mean, but going back to the injuries, though, Tyreek Hill, that's going to suck.

That's, that's going to be a big, big, big, big problem for the Miami Dolphins. I mean, there's really no bones about it. Unfortunately, it's just, I mean, for lack of their term, it's just bad. Yeah. And here's the thing about all Tyree. Hill, if that is his real name. I kid. He's a small receiver, as you know, 5-10, pretty undersized as far as receivers go, and he's

31. And wide receiver tends to be a position where once they hit 30, you know, it may be as not as bad as running backs, but they lose a stat. Hill has already been fighting the decline allegations. we already know we know this and forget a season ender this could be a career ender because even though it was a knee injury to draw a basketball comparison granted it's a different point in the leg but this is eerily similar to when gordon hayward was on the Celtics and had his ankle going in a whole other direction you know and that's thing with hill his knee was literally at a right angle of His knee with a full 90 degrees. And with a dislocation, like you said, often becomes ligament tears, ligament pulls. This might be something that you don't come back from.

And even if you do, you're 31, you're going to be 32 next season. As a wide receiver, undersized, you're not coming back the same if you're coming back at all. Yeah. if this is it definitely one of the most electrifying receivers that we ever got to watch don't know if

we could consider him a Hall of Famer but he's one of those guys that will definitely be remembered for a long, long time anyways so he's on the cart right and he just starts yelling

let's go like yes pointing at the crown pumping his fist and it's like it's like you didn't just dislocated his knee it was like yeah I got to get my I don't have to

I don't have to worry about to throw me the ball anymore like that was one that was one of the more insane things I ever saw but kind of kind of just goes

and adds on to the whole Tyreek thing throughout the offseason and like two as well just golly by the way Chris yeah since you asked you know is he a Hall of Famer yeah I will actually let you be the judge okay okay yeah we'll bring me some stats Terry killed stats he has this is a one three six not so across ten seasons right from 2016 2025 okay he has 11,000 296 yards on 813 catches along with 83 touchdowns and eight Pro Bowl appearances. So there's that.

I mean, hey, that's pretty good. He's got, I believe, yeah, he has six seasons of over a thousand yards, and he has three seasons of double-digit touchdowns. We also have to realize he was also, I believe, a six-round pick, and he has, I believe, a six-round pick. and he has, I believe, four, no, five, I'm looking at right now, five AP first team all pros. Wasn't he like a triple crown winner, too, or was like very close to being one? He almost was a triple crown winner in 2023. That's right. He came short on receptions where he had 119 receptions,

1,799 receiving yards and 13 touchdowns. Yards and touchdowns, he both led the league, but he came up short in total receptions. So that's... I like those numbers, CJ. That might be enough for me, to be honest. Yeah. So he's a eight-time pro bowler.

So in recap, five-time... So in recap, five-time first-team all-pro, one-time second-team all-pro, eight-time pro bowler. You know, I read off all of his stats or, you know, 813 catches, over 11,000 yards, 83 touchdowns. And if you want, I'll sweeten the deal for you, 819 rushing yards with seven rushing touchdowns, and over 1,400 return yards and five return touchdowns. and he was on the NFL 2010's all-decade team or all-decade team, and on top of that, he does have a ring.

A lot of people forget that, but, you know, he was... I don't really think many people forget that, to be honest, because he was part of one of the biggest plays in Super Bowl history that led to the Chief's comeback. And if anyone is still... We're still unsure, we can use, so by the way, one of the greatest sites the Internet ever has, is, as ever had, is Pro Football Reference. And what they have is, like, they have this, like, little calculation thing where, like, gives them, like, a statistics and analytics-based score, right? and it will say should he be in the Hall of Fame, right?

And it looks like he should be. Well, statistically it should be. However, the Pro Football Reference Hall of Fame monitor says he comes up just short. They gave him a total career score of 94 point. I'm going to round. and call it 0.6, which places him 19th among all receivers. The average Hall of Fame receiver's total score, you know, when weighted for era and such, is 100.5.

To me, I say, that's close enough. Yeah, I would like to, I wonder if it is because of where he ranks amongst, ranks it in like the all-time receiving lists. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. Yeah. So, I mean, I feel like he kind of has to. Like, don't get me wrong. I can name 10 receivers better than him. I can. And frankly, you can name at minimum all in their prime three receivers that are better than him in his own era. You know, like Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Antonio Brown. D'Andre Hopkins, like Prime D. Hopp was better. So, yeah, that's five. But still, he's got the stats, the accolades, and the ring.

So, yeah, you should probably be in the whole thing. I'd give him the nod, for sure. Yeah. All right. Let's do week four, top three, bottom three. Oh, do you want to say anything about Broncos and Bengals by a chance? Other than the fact there was an absolute beatdown. Yeah, I mean, Jake Browning had 125 passing yards or something like that.

He played terribly. Also, I did want to mention about the Dolphins Jets game. Jets were running the ball. Justin Fields had himself a solid day. Not a terrible day, not a great day. He had a good day. Had a 43-yard rushing touchdown, scampered around a little bit. It was a pretty nice watch.

Jets off. Jets running game. I mean, I'd expect them to, unlike good days, I'd expect them to be close to, like, 200 yards rushing. Yeah. Because that's going to be the majority of their games is running the ball. In terms of Broncos Bengals, though, like, yeah, Jake Browning, terrible. Didn't play good on the road at all.

That's back-to-back games now where they have played on the road and have looked like dog shit. Let's see what the bannels have coming up. They got the Lions at home next week. Golly. Then the Packers on the road. Then they have a Thursday night matchup against the Steelers, Jets, Bears, home games. So four of their next five are at home. But those are not easy matchups to try to get yourself back on track.

things are looking pretty bleak unfortunately so yeah especially for the Bengals just I mean what do you make of the Bronzos though I don't know I mean

congratulations you wall up the Joe Burrellas Bengals who also don't have a defense did you want a medal yeah I mean this was pretty much a get right game for them and you know you're in denver you're hosting a team without their quarterback this is a game you should win convincingly and win convincingly they did hey and that's nothing to sneeze at but next you're going to philly now i'm not asking you to win that game i'm asking you to show signs of life you know if denver just rolls over and dies then maybe we have a problem yeah

Yeah. I mean, yeah, they played good against the Bengals today, as you mentioned, but they're without Joe Burrow. Bonex just seeming like it's a sophomore slump for him. He had a good game today. I liked RJ Harvey today. They were giving a lot of touches, J.K. Dobbins. Ground game was working for him today.

So that was good to see. I just like it when the running game is going. Yeah. I just love that. Pound the Rock. Week four, top three, bottom three. First on the list. Duh, bears.

Duh, bears. Duh bears. Yes, I agree. Huge win against the Raiders. This is one of those games that if Matt Eberflus was still the head coach, they were not coming out on top. This was one of those games that is like the classic, like, classic Bears was going to happen. Raiders were going to get that game-winning field goal. Instead, they get the block kick, which, like I said, like this.

Finishes like that don't usually happen for Chicago. So that was a good win for them. Speaking of good wins, Patriots, 42-13 against the Panthers. Yeah, the Panthers are a bad team. Yeah, both teams came in as one and two. But this was the first time where it felt like that things turned in the right direction. for New England and who knows maybe this is the right amount of kick that they need going into their Sunday night game against Buffalo which that's going to be a very

a very good litmus test for the paths chiefs everyone was counting them out and they did what they usually do they stick it right back in your face And in this case, they beat the living hell out of the Ravens. Yeah, that's really the only right way to say it. I mean, yeah, Lamar got hurt, but. But the game was already over. It literally doesn't mean anything. And I have seen some Ravens fans online saying, oh, well, Lamar was healthy.

It's like, oh, the game was already at a reach. He was not coming back. No. The Ravens just aren't that kind of team. It's not even a Lamar thing at this point. It's a Harbaugh thing. Yeah, 100%. All right.

Bottom three. The Titans. I got a hand to him like Cam Ward's doing what he can. He even said in his post-game presser, we, we suck, quote unquote. It's a bad team right now. That O line is not giving their. quarterback many favors and in this case they get shut out by the texans uh 26 to nothing um a team that has not been very impressive right and cam war at also 10 for 26 with an interception

108 passing yards just uh just a tough day at the office for the wreck yeah honestly this is one of those games where at least according to me you can't really put it too, too much on Ward, if that makes sense. Yeah. Because the team around him is straight, garbage. He was right when he said, something to the effect of, I'm going to keep it a buck. We ask, yeah, he is correct. Yep.

He made no bones about it and rightfully so. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, charters. Lost to the Giants 2118. and they fell victim to the backup bump with Jackson Dart, Justin Herbert, two interceptions. Those are the only two turnovers for the charges that day,

but they also had 14 penalties, 14. Gross. Team that was making a lot of big strides. Well, like I said, fell victim to the backup bump. and coming in right at the horn, the Cincinnati bangles. And yeah, you could say it's Jake Browning,

you know, you got to pack up quarterback in. Defense is doing what the defense has been doing, which isn't very good. But this is now back-to-back games on the road and putting up absolute stinkers. Last week against the Vikings, and then you got 40 pieces.

This game in general, yeah, you were able to, the Bengals were able to kind of make it more of a slow grind for the Broncos and route to them ended up getting 28 points. But it was just a bad game overall. Like Jake Browning with 125 passing yards, this was just an all-around ugly, ugly game for Sensi. um thoughts from you you know i thought about being maybe like a tiny bit more lenient towards them you know given that there's literally no jake browning

but that just can't be an excuse for them it literally just can't be yeah and no joe burrow you mean i meant yeah no no joe burrow sorry i meant they had jake browning yeah no joe burrow i'm sorry that's not an excuse that's not going to win you any sympathy points especially not for me especially when we have seen that jake browning can be a competent backup quarterback there's no reason i know i'd take there's i know the line isn't great i know the defenses can do you any favors. But when you have Chase Brown, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, there's actually no reason for you to suck as much as you do. And that's the truth. That's like the actual legitimate unvarnished truth. Yeah. Yeah. Honorable mention for the bottom three,

the Colts, Daniel Jones throwing two picks. Kind of finally seeing Daniel Jones come back to Earth a little bit, but in total this was a day ruined by A.D. Mitchell, so that's probably the biggest reason why the Colts are on the ball or would be a honorable mention in this case. Other honorable mentions, obviously Panthers losing 42.13. Actually, C.J. Did you pick them? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll go through some more. honorable mentions, but while you do the math. Yeah, gotcha. Honorable mention, I guess, you could go with the Falcons,

winning 34 to 27 against the commanders. Obviously, you know, commies are working with a backup quarterback, too. Hey, Chris, yeah, I was going to say Atlanta won that game, right? Yeah, yeah. All right. Commies were working with a backup quarterback two, but Pennix for 313 yards Bejohn 75 Drake London over 100 yards Drake London had a really good day as a Drake London fantasy owner I should know that

oh by the way the Jaguars won right Jaguars one yep that's I just want to make sure because I feel like I know but not 100% you know got to ask because I'm doing it right now and Adam did not do that well this week is all I'm going to say yeah Jacksonville Well, honorable mention for Jacksonville, I mean, we keep thinking that they're going to just kind of ride this weird wave to the end of the season at this point. But, I mean, I mean, yeah, Trevor Lawrence did all right. It wasn't his best day, but they had Brock Purdy throw two interceptions for turnovers total, but they also committed to all penalties. But this is also a Niners team that has some injuries going for them right now. but San Franch should have

San Frant should have George Kittle and company back at some point Honorable Mentioned for top three Another one, Green Bay Dallas, although they tied That was still a game of the year candidate regardless That was a very entertaining game to watch Let's see what else Baltimore

Honorable mention Mainly because they are dealing with a plethora of injuries themselves. So on top of losing by 17. But things aren't looking good for Baltimore. Depending on how these injuries shape up. I don't know if we were talking about this earlier. Don't know if you can really shape them up to be Super Bowl contenders.

Speaking of Super Bowl contenders, Buffalo 31 to 19 against the Saints. Shout out to the Saints. they've you know spencer radler um he's doing his best i think he's defeated as a starter literally he's no he is he is he's o and ten now and by the way i've crunched the numbers here chris okay yes if my math is right in the last place i believe is adam with seven and for the record i decided not to count the green bay dallas game we all picked the packers it was a tie I'm not counting that as a win or a loss. I'm just discarding it.

That's like this weird little purgatory. It could be a half-way. You and talk tied with eight. And I got 10. Damn. You're hot. Yeah. So, yeah.

So for the ones I got right, I picked Pittsburgh, Houston, Philly, New England, Buffalo, Detroit, Jacksonville. I was the only one of the four of us who picked Jacksonville, by the way. The Rams, the Bears, and the Broncos. So, yeah.

I guess, once again, we all picked a Packer, so maybe we all get one, maybe not. I was thinking like a half point. It's weird. It's a half point for, you know, writer cup style. Half point. Also, even though he did.

did come in last i will give adam credit for choosing kansas city when the rest of us went baltimore fair enough yeah he also went raiders and the rest of us went bears and colts when the rest the rest of us went ram so if i got that wrong and my math isn't right well y'all can look like i'm like i'm lying it's it's free information so yeah yeah all right well that is all of our schedule content for you today be sure to check out new episode coming out on Friday at 8 a.m. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel, and we have all of our episodes available on Spotify, Spreaker, Apple Podcasts, IHeartRadio, Google Podcasts, so much more.

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