The Fumblerooski Podcast - We're Back -Ep 206 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

Football season is back! Listen to our celebration by previewing this season with over/under's on all the major stat categories, as well as most improved and declined teams from a season prior with a ...special preview for the opening night matchup of Lions @ Chiefs! Special guest Nate Sloat joins Adam Wright, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros to cover these topics and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. This is close. Diggs side line touchdown unbelievable swings it way down the field
Starting point is 00:00:32 to Watkins Sammy Watkins for the touchdown well guys we have finally made it. Opening night is upon us this Thursday with the matchup of the Visiting Lions at the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power Radiate and Secret Weapon Consulting.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Adam Wright with Justin Tucker and CJ Medeiros as always. We have a special guest, though, that is Nate Sloat. Nate, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. So we have a lot of new listeners. Actually, you haven't been on at all. Why don't you introduce yourself to all of our listeners? Me?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yes. Oh, sorry. Yep, so I'm Nate Sloat. Basically just in the productions realm right now, me and Adam have worked for the Woo Sox all season doing that. I've also worked with the Providence Bruins as well, graduated from the University of Rhode Island. Just a big football fan and happy to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Absolutely. I'm happy to have you on. It's been a while. We've been trying to get you on, but it's been a long summer, man, working with you with the Worcester Red Sox. That's been fun. But from my understanding, you're a Denver Broncos fan. Is that correct
Starting point is 00:02:05 correct thoughts on them this year um i've told you that i'm not that high on them honestly um sean payton obviously a good coach probably will definitely elevate them higher than nathaniel hackett um but i just think russell wilson has his ceiling right now i don't think that's going to mesh very well um so maybe like eight wins i'd say is the ceiling for the broncos yeah listen this the way that i look at it i think i'm a little higher on this team it's that i think this team has the highest one of the higher ceilings in the afc but also one of the lowest floors. They could be one of the top seeds. I wouldn't be surprised. They could also be one of the worst teams in football,
Starting point is 00:02:51 and I also wouldn't be surprised. But we'll see how they do. I think they've improved a lot. That offensive line looks better. The defense looks good, just as they did last year. And they still have Russell Wilson and some good targets. So we'll see how it goes but we have a great show planned for you guys tonight as i mentioned opening day finally upon us this summer
Starting point is 00:03:14 we did all kinds of stuff to try and keep you guys entertained we did some player rankings for each position we did division previews we did fan boxes for all the dark horse teams and all of the, all of the NFL honors awards and all of that stuff. We did Superbowl predictions. We did playoff predictions. We did division winners, all of that stuff to keep you guys entertained, but no more, no more starting this Thursday at 8 20 PM. Eastern time. We are going to get our football football that is current events stuff going on that we will be able to cover for you guys and we are excited we're going to go over all of that and some anticipated over and unders uh betting lines for this season
Starting point is 00:04:00 as a whole we're going to do some predicted most improved teams from last year and biggest drop-offs from the season prior. We're also going to do a little opening night preview for that matchup itself. And we'll go through the fan box and give you who is winning the Super Bowl. We asked you guys, so we will give you exactly who said, who said what, what uh only actually we won't be able to um long story but we know who we know what was said we don't know who said it because the list of who said what on our question filters got lost in our feed um so we can't we can't get that for you but we have exactly what was said so we're going to jump right into it with some over and unders uh so a little fun for to the start of this episode um we're going to start with whoever whoever is ends up being the lead leader in passing
Starting point is 00:05:02 touchdowns over or under 44 and a half touchdowns what do you guys think now who wants to take it i guess yeah i'll take it um i say under because i think the exact amount would be 44 i don't think anyone passes 44 this year. I would honestly go over just because of the star-studded quarterback star at the top of the list with Mahomes and Burrow. I think someone would definitely get over that number. Yep. This is going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:05:45 But I am going to go under. And in a similar vein to Tucker, I think that the highest would probably end up being 44. Because there are a lot of star-studded quarterbacks in a lot of teams, but each one has a flaw. For example, we said outside Travis Kelsey, Cupboards Bear and KC. Joe Burrow, he's got weapons galore, but he's got a turnover problem. Justin Herbert, he always puts up good numbers, but I don't see him leading the league in anything. And Otuwa, he's great, but he's going to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Josh Allen, kind of like Joe Burrow, going to stuff the stat sheet, but also in the interception category as well. Rogers, I don't know garrett wilson's wide receiver one doesn't exactly wow me if i'm being perfectly honest and especially because after him i'm not particularly scared of their receivers so every it seems like every quarterback has uh something i mean we know lamar and jalen hurts probably won't because, well, they'll probably get about 40 touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:06:48 but some of those are going to be on the ground because that's just the nature of their game. So overall, when you combine that there, I don't see anyone getting 44 passing touchdowns, really don't. Yeah, so the question is over under 44 and a half. So if anybody does go over, who's going to get 45 or more touchdowns and what's up. What are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Sorry. So if anyone ends up doing it, it would probably be Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert, maybe, but who knows what Quentin Johnson will do. And also,
Starting point is 00:07:33 Keenan Allen and Mike Williams get hurt a lot. So it's hard to rely on this unit. So I'm not really high on Justin Herbert, not just because of him but mostly because of the surrounding situation situation um he has talent but they're all massive question marks and most of its health some of it is the the rookie receiver they took will he be the real deal um he's looked good so far but i'm not quite sold. But I'm looking at Joe Burrow. I think with this offensive line, I can't stress enough how much it has improved this season.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Looking at it in hindsight, it doesn't look like they improved much. They just added Orlando Brown. But the pieces that they added from last offseason, the one before this one, it took some time for them to gel this past year. But once they finally hit their stride, over those last six games of the season, they only allowed seven sacks. So you add Orlando Brown to that mix and potentially health as well. I think this, I think this offensive line is going to be the best Joe Burrow has played behind. And I think
Starting point is 00:08:56 he's going to end up with over 45 touchdown passes. And I think Josh, I think Josh Allen has a good shot at as well. I think Patrick Mahomes has a shot at it, so I'll go over. All right. I think the person who has the best chance to do it is Joe Burrow as well. Yeah. I will agree that if anyone is going to break it, it's got to be Joe Burrow. I don't think he will. I think he'll probably get about 44, but that's just me.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah, and if he ends up with more interceptions, so what? Right? I mean, Peyton Manning had that issue, and so did Brett Favre, and they both had pretty good careers. Yeah, and I think you have to worry about that once the playoffs come, but regular season, you'd put up 13, 14 wins, and then you'll be in the playoffs and sitting good there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 All right. Another over-under. So this season's lead rusher, will he go over or under 1,700 and a half yards? Way under. I don't think they'll crack 1,500. I think it's 1,400 or less. I'll also go under on that because I think the state of running backs right now
Starting point is 00:10:15 seems to be pretty low. Hmm. You make interesting points, but call me crazy, might go over but why because it's actually the state of running backs is why it's going to happen because you have people namely saquon and josh jacobs that are angry they had great seasons last year. They were reduced to take one year deals and, and, you know, they're playing with a chip on their shoulder. You know, every run they're going to be giving 110% every run. They're going to just be looking at the end zone. And same thing with
Starting point is 00:10:59 guys like Derek Henry, who said, Oh, I'm about to show the league why. And, I mean, now I know that's really nothing to go on, but the entire running back just committee of the NFL, they've got a chip on their shoulder, and I think one of them's got to break that 1,700. Yeah, I have to agree with that one there. And I don't know if it'll be one of the veterans. It could be. But I'm also looking at Bijan Robinson. Kid has fresh legs
Starting point is 00:11:25 working but working behind a very good offensive line and a team that the offense is structured to be a run first offense i know a lot of people are worried about tyler algier but i'm not because that's tyler algier this is bijan Robinson, a guy who they invested in the eighth overall pick. And I think this guy is going to take the league by storm as far as running backs go. But there's other guys, as CJ mentioned, there's a lot of guys with chips on their shoulders. Maybe some of them succeed. Maybe some of them don't. But one of them, one of them don't but one of them one of them is going to have that one year where he furious furiously cracks 1700 yards and beyond so i i'm gonna go the over on that one yeah i also think the injuries will definitely pile up for running backs especially Nate?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Hello? Hello? We just had a McConnell moment. We had a little – Breakup. We had a little breakup there. What did you say? Injuries are going to pile up a little bit for running backs,
Starting point is 00:12:40 especially if they're going like 110%. The beginning of the season is going to build up. The miles are going to build up on them towards the end of the year yeah that's that's a good point yeah yeah i'm definitely taking the under the the reason for that is usually because they for for them to not repeat the season that they had prior right like? Like the 1,700-yard rusher usually doesn't do it the year after because that workload eventually catches up to them. But if we're betting on one running back to have that monster year, yeah, I'll take that because usually there's always that one running back
Starting point is 00:13:19 who does it, who is the darling of fantasy football and winds up with these astronomical numbers as far as rushing yards go receiving yards too i mean these are these are often the complete backs who do everything they become the focal point of whichever offense they're a part of and that's usually what becomes not only a downfall to the team, but also to that runner. Because it's just running backs age like milk, unfortunately. It's a very, very tough position to invest in football. Great for fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:13:55 At least not for long. Because, I mean, we all saw what happened to Todd Gurley. We saw what happened with Saquon. It's just, it's, it's been a, it's been a constant here. So I'm going to take the over here. Um, but for our next one, so the lead receiver now, same number, 17 and a 1700 and a half receiving yards. does somebody do that so we already have we've already got we've already got justin jefferson and jamar chase as two of the best wide receivers in the game does anyone else have a chance to do it you want to say adams maybe uh i don't know there's been a lot of hype around tyreek hill a chance to do it. Devontae Adams?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Maybe, I don't know, there's been a lot of hype around Tyreek Hill, perhaps. He could do that. Yeah, and plus, you know, he's got that handcuff and waddle. But yeah, I personally, I go over. Under. I don't know. I'm cracking 1,700. 1,600, yes. I see a few receivers cracking 1,600, but not 1,700.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Not this year. Because I think it's just more variety right now. I think there's just more receivers that are quality instead of, you know, just the few at the top. You know, I think we're at a point where, and this will sound like it's going to slightly contradict my last point about running backs. I think we are going to get, we are at a point in our league,
Starting point is 00:15:35 in the NFL, where it is very, very pass heavy. Vertical offenses are sprouting out like daisies like it's it never has before um so i think somebody is going to do it and i think the obvious ones are not the only ones that were that were thinking of that could do this the justin jefferson's the jamar chases the tyree kills of the world even stefan digs they're not the only guys who we think could do that i think i think garrett wilson is a guy who's in for a big year as well one guy popped up my head on dk metcalf baby dk metcalf is a possibility um garrett wilson could do it chris olave is working in a better a better quarterback situation you might think oh derrick carr but what did derrick carr
Starting point is 00:16:25 just do for davante adams over in oakland uh vegas at this point geez um i mean you know like i think i think this is i think this is a such a pass happy league that anybody could do it and there's so many good wide receivers out there now that somebody is going to break through with the 1700 yard season i understand like i just said that the rushing that rushing is always a thing that somebody is going to break through there as well and i think it will but that's that's mainly just by volume someone's going to do it i just think there's a bigger chance with wide receivers as well because they're because every single offense at this at this point is structured uh vertically mostly around one or two wide receivers to go off your
Starting point is 00:17:20 point adam it seems like every season for the league, it becomes more offense friendly. And the more that's going to happen, the more records are going to be broken. And the more you're going to see both running backs and wide receivers and quarterback numbers go up per year. Hey, guys, speaking of offense, a little minor bit of news comes in. Saints rookie quarterback Jake Hainer has just been suspended for the first six games of the season for violating the PED policy. He's a backup quarterback. What is he doing? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Those PEDs are probably what made him take those, let's just say, zesty photos for his rookie photo shoot, if you know what I mean. Oh, my God. Please tell me. It was the PEDs that made him do it. You heard it here first. Didn't he really take one look at Derek Carr and say, I can beat this guy?
Starting point is 00:18:13 Is that what this is? His reason they wanted to sign a free agent quarterback. I need to know. Maybe Jameis might get the start now. There goes his whole career now. I mean, damn. Basically, I don't think he'll get another chance. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:30 All right. So, best record now. Over or under? 13 and a half games. Over. Over. Okay. Are we all unanimous in that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:46 It's gotta be over. How about we go, how about we go up a notch over, under 14 and a half over still take the over under someone's going to be 15 games. Wait, no, no, no. Under it's good. I think it's going to be 14. Exactly. Yeah. Because let's face it no matter how good you are and adam you and i as pats fans watching some great teams play you and i both know that there's always just those games that you drop that you just have no business losing no team can really escape that you're absolutely right it's the reason why we've met we well we have seen a 16 and 0 team and a 14 and 0 team and a 14 and 0 team no one's won
Starting point is 00:19:35 17 for obvious reasons i mean it's only it's only been 17 for a little while, although the Eagles had a shot at it earlier on last season. Then the Commanders ended that. But to have that perfect season, but if you win, so that's 15-2. So that means you do lose two games. So you could win exactly 15. The question is, who has the capability to do that? You can look at the NFC, where there's not much competition.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You could look at the Eagles. You could look at the 49ers. Even the Seahawks. Or the Lions. There's a reason that NFC is so open. All the teams, even the best ones, aren't that good. So, that's an issue there.
Starting point is 00:20:27 In the AFC, it's the opposite issue. There's a lot of loaded teams. Way too many. That becomes the issue there, is that you run into so many competitive teams you're going to give at some point. So does somebody lose less than three games? I think it's the 49ers, just based on their –
Starting point is 00:20:45 I need to look at their schedule again, but I think they have like six wins within their division. Because I think Seattle's good, but I don't think they're as good as the 49ers because I don't trust their, like, tackles against Joey Bosa and Javon Hargrave. So I think it's just going to be problems from their own. The Cardinals suck, and the Rams are just injury-prone right now. And I think they're trying to rebuild on the fly. So I think it's just six easy wins for them.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And it's a guy who's actually contenders enough to actually put up a fight against the 49ers. So I think they could easily win 15 games. But I need to see the schedule to confirm it. Yeah. So you think the 49ers in the whole league have the best shot right now? Yeah. We can look at the Eagles, but again,
Starting point is 00:21:35 since they're facing off against the Cowboys twice a year, they usually split. I don't see them beating. I don't see them getting like 13. Not to mention the Giants could potentially be problematic. Yes. If Danny Jones actually looks like the franchise quarterback they want, they could be very problematic.
Starting point is 00:21:52 They probably won't, but imagine if he did. I think the Niners have the best chance too. The Niners, the Bengals. You know, like what if the Giants team. The Bengals? Oh know, like what if they – Hold on, hold on. The Bengals? Oh, Christ, not this. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:11 The Bengals? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Shoot, shoot, get the room. Can we throw away our Ravens bias for one second, please? Okay, it's still not going to be the Bengals because they're still the Steelers and the Browns in that division. Okay, he actually has a point. I agree. It's a tough division.
Starting point is 00:22:29 15-2. I don't think they're winning 15 games. I think the best the Bengals do is 14. I think you guys are severely underestimating the AFC North. There's no way in hell they get past 13. They get 12 or 13, but they're not getting 14. I forgive't. Underestimating the AFC North. There's no way in hell they get past 13.
Starting point is 00:22:45 They get 12 or 13, but they're not getting 14. I forgive you. I think they have a chance at either one. If they win 12, 13, 14 games, it would not surprise me in the least. They will probably split with Baltimore. I'm not high on the Browns. And the Steelers. The Dibbler there, Watson.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah. So we've kind of gone over the NFC. In the AFC, now that we're kind of entering that, who has the best? So we've kind of gone over the AFC. That's going to be tough for anyone in that division because it's a tough division. How about the AFC South? It would be the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah. They have arguably the easiest division in football outside of the NFC South. Now, the AFC South. It might be the Titans. I don't know. It might be the Titans. I'm actually liking what they're doing in the offseason, the Titans are, because they've gotten Ryan Tannehill a new weapon in DeAndre Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:23:47 They have a good defense. It's just a matter of them playing together now. And we all know who Derek Henry is. I still think the Jags can put Trevor Lawrence, can put his team on their back. So I think the Jags do come out with that division still. Possibly, yeah. I have been very low on the Titans this year, this offseason at least.
Starting point is 00:24:12 They finished with only seven wins after a 7-3 start to the season. But people have talked me into them this offseason. I think they could be competitive. And I'll say this. You guys have all gotten me into them this offseason. I think they could be competitive. And I'll say this. You guys have all gotten me to say this. They have a decently high ceiling for the crap that they went through last season. And some of the pieces that they have also lost. They've replaced some, but they've lost some pieces as well um so they have a they have a decently high ceiling for everything that they've
Starting point is 00:24:49 been through they also have a really low floor i would not be surprised in the slightest if they win six games this year i also wouldn't be surprised if they win 10 but i also i do think that the games they win will not be against the Jaguars. That Jaguars team is just too good and young. They look like they are a team that's about to explode. I think that is a team that you want to buy low on. In fantasy and betting lines, all of that. I think the Jaguars have the best shot in the AFC to win a lot of games,
Starting point is 00:25:27 more games than you think that they will. I think they win at least 12. What's up? I think the quarterback holds down Tennessee a lot. That's true. That and also the offensive line. I think it's a big question mark. They brought in Peter Skowronski. That's good.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But outside of that, they don't have much there they also lost taylor lawan so that still outweighs the addition of skoronski in my opinion exactly and didn't they just release their center oh ben jones yeah right so that whole offensive line like they've added but they've also subtracted. So it's a big, it's a big question mark. And when Tannehill has weapons, I like him. And I think DeAndre Hopkins has some more good years in him. However many is, that's another argument to be had. I think he has at least one in him. But I just think it's, this team has one of the lowest floors in the league with the highest,
Starting point is 00:26:29 with one of the higher ceilings. It's kind of like the, kind of like how I feel about the, the Broncos, you know, but I think, I think the Jaguars are a team that isn't kind of a dark horse to win 15 games here.
Starting point is 00:26:44 If anyone's going to do it. I agree. I think I'm taking the under on 15. But if anyone does it, I have the 49ers in that conversation. I have the Jaguars in that convo. I think Detroit could be in on it. I don't know. That's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:27:10 But I think I'm going to go the under because I don't think anyone will. All right. So that's it for all our over-unders for this season. Up next, we've got most improved teams. So we'll each pick someone who we believe is got most improved teams so we'll each pick someone who is we believe is the most improved and also teams who are expected to make a massive decline who had the biggest drop off that's next this is the fumble ruski podcast Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is
Starting point is 00:27:57 no sign yet Edelman comes down with a football they're saying it's a catch it's a catch. It's in. Come on. Gates. Sideline.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Touchdown. Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field to Watkins. Sammy Watkins for the touchdown. welcome back to the fumble ruski podcast by power 88 and seek a weapon consulting adam right with justin tucker cj medeiros and special guest nate sloat all right so last up so to celebrate the opening night, we went through some over-unders on the last segment. Now we're going through some of the teams who we feel have improved the most from the offseason or who will show the biggest decline.
Starting point is 00:28:56 We're going to start with most improved guys. How do we feel about, so I'll throw a name out here. How do we feel about the Pittsburgh Steelers? I feel like that's a team that no one really gives attention to from this offseason kenny pickett from camp and also preseason has shown a lot of improvement they've worked on that offensive line that defense looks better their pass catchers are young but it looks like they're taking some strides towards being upper level, wide receiver one and two and tight end ones. How do we feel about them? I still feel like they're the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I think they improved, but not by a significant margin. I still think Kenny Pickett still has to prove some things in this league. I like George Pickens. I like Ken Pickett. I like the overall of the team. I like Pat Frymouth. That defense is always excellent. It's just now it's time for the offense to put it together and, you know, score. I think that was their main problem last year.
Starting point is 00:29:59 They couldn't score. So hopefully this year they can actually improve upon that and actually take steps to score so they can actually win more games. I think a good comp for them is actually the Patriots because they have a young quarterback who hasn't really proven, like hasn't gotten to what the ceiling is or people are debating what the ceiling is in Kenny Pickett. And I think that they'll probably be fighting for that seventh seed in the afc um by being a bunch of the low-rated teams but
Starting point is 00:30:33 can they really go ahead and sneak or a cincinnati buffalo i'm concerned over that okay you might be talking me into saying the patriots are the most improved team just based on actually having an oc that that that that might actually i'm thinking about it now oh i i guess we could say most improved could be a very relative term because like there's a lot of there's a lot of variables that go into this not only just not only just wins like how many more wins did you get from last season but also it could show not in the wins right like a team could look better but relative to the rest of his of their division which has gotten more competitive. What's that noise,
Starting point is 00:31:26 by the way? CJ? Nothing. That's all. I'm adjusting one of the cords on my mic. Calm down. Alright. I can hear it through here. I forgive you. This team could be much improved through the eye test and even through some
Starting point is 00:31:43 statistics, but through a record standpoint, they could be worse. Like, this team, they finished 8-9 last year. If they win seven games and they look like a better offense, slightly worse offensive line, defense is a little better, but they lose their divisional games because they're the worst team in the division. Now I don't, I like,
Starting point is 00:32:08 I wouldn't, the Patriots are such a tricky team that I just want to stay away from them in terms of predictions. They could, they that's another team that anything could happen with them besides winning a Superbowl. Cause that's not happening. You don't want to talk about your favorite team. You don't want to talk about your favorite team you don't want to talk about your team that i don't want to i don't
Starting point is 00:32:29 i'm not happy with how they are right now i think they've improved in some ways but i think the the ways that they have fallen off kind of outweigh the kind of outweigh the positives um their division's a factor too they can't really control that but their division is significantly better now yeah so even if they have gotten better from where they were last year the division got better the jets are better than you now right now so what so like yeah they might have gotten better, but to what end? What difference is it going to make if they still don't make the playoffs and they finish with a worse record?
Starting point is 00:33:10 The offense is better run. You actually have confidence in your quarterback. You know who the franchise guy is now. Bill will give him the keys to the offense. There's improvement here. Look, I get it. I do, but I have a candidate for improved teams. Who do you got?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Think about the Chicago Bears. Now, they're like the reverse Patriots, whereas, yeah, they improved, but Chicago's division got worse. Aaron Rodgers, your boogeyman, he's gone. He doesn't own you anymore. Now you have Jordan Love. Maybe he's good, maybe he's not.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I don't know. The Vikings, their defense has gotten worse. Dalvin Cook and Adam Thielen are gone. I mean, they're one Justin Jefferson away from being a bottom 10 team. And then, then, you know, there's the Lions. Lions are good. I mean, we know they improved, but the Bears, just look at what they did. Justin Fields is struggling. So what do you do? You grab the Titans guard, Nate Davis, right? And you got him on a three-year deal. And you draft Darnell Wright, the tackle from Tennessee, in the first round.
Starting point is 00:34:31 See, that's good, but he needs a wide receiver one. So what happens? You get a haul of draft picks, include and wide receiver DJ Moore to pair with Darnell Mooney. And if he can screw his head on right, maybe chase Claypool. And defensively, you just got, I mean, you have basically filled the void Roquan Smith left by grabbing not just Tremaine Edmonds, but TJ Edwards as well.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And you've got guys like Demarcus Walker and Andrew Billings for the defensive line and a serviceable backup tight end in Robert Tunyon. And through the draft, you got like a good linebacker in Noah Sewell. You got another good corner from Miami and Tyreek Stevenson. Like my point is the Bears, they addressed everything. They addressed the offensive line, they addressed the defense, and they addressed the receiver core. The only way that they flop is if Justin Fields fails,
Starting point is 00:35:32 which I'll admit is a possibility. But just on paper and in the division, their odds have increased, I would say, tenfold. It is a massive gamble to suggest that this team will be the most improved because you could win big on that because they have really addressed everything. And Justin Fields, in theory, can play. He's shown some flashes through the air and on the ground. So it's going to come down to him.
Starting point is 00:36:09 But in the same way, if this kid ends up being a bust it all falls apart exactly in the league you can improve in every other spot but if you don't have that quarterback position nailed down like not just nailed down but have one of the better ones in the league then you're not going anywhere right you're not you're not going to do anything reason the eagles won 14 games last year was because jalen hurts took that leap from being a decent quarterback to a great one josh allen in the bills that doesn't have like they don't emerge if josh Allen doesn't show significant growth once they got Stephon Diggs. Same thing with Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengal.
Starting point is 00:36:50 So it's going to come down to the quarterback. And Tua and the Dolphins as well. No, that's an exception. That offensive line is so bad that I think – I mean, my point is – If they don't kill him first. Yeah, if they don't kill him best season yeah if they don't kill him but you know i can't control that yeah all those guys all those quarterbacks took time to develop
Starting point is 00:37:11 and fields could be next we could be at the end of the season looking at fields like oh now he can go into that list of elite quarterbacks yeah which is continuously which is continuously growing every year by the way way. It has been spectacular to see these quarterbacks enter the league and make an impact the way they have. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thinking of other teams, I'm going to give you one of the more obvious ones,
Starting point is 00:37:43 which is, I think, the Jacksonville Jaguars. And yes, Calvin Ridley was technically still on the team, but he was suspended. You had Christian Kirk, who it turns out, we all thought he was a career wide receiver two at best, not even a high-end one, just a decent wide receiver two, middle of the pack. Turns out he can do pretty well when he's the number one option. And you have Trevor Lawrence throwing. You add Calvin Ridley to that mix. That's going to change the entire dynamic.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And from what we've seen in training camp and preseason, looks like those two are actually connecting pretty well. Trevor Lawrence and Calvin Ridley. So this Jaguars team, as I mentioned in the last segment, in teams that could potentially win a lot of games, they're working in one of the worst divisions in all of football right now. Arguably the worst. No, it's not. It's the NFC South by default. But arguably one of the worst divisions in football. So they're going to rack up some wins. And I also think they're going to win a lot of games
Starting point is 00:38:46 outside their division as well. They are that talented. And playing down south for cold weather teams in the month of December has its ups for those warm weather teams as Patriots fans have learned the hard way from traveling to Miami every now and again. Those cold weather teams have Patriots fans have learned the hard way from traveling to Miami every now and again. Those cold weather teams have some struggles sometimes. And I think a quarterback
Starting point is 00:39:11 who in a vertical offense, who gets to host games down South, that is a huge, huge advantage as opposed to playing in the cold weather and trying to sling it down the field and also trying to establish a running game with James Cook and Damian Harris. They also have two games in a row in London, which could help them. It could help them because I guess it's technically neutral grounds. I wonder how the jet lag is going to affect them, though. Because that'll be a couple few hours. I'm not sure how many. Then they have another week.
Starting point is 00:40:01 They don't have to travel. That's right. Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see. I think the Jaguars are a team that really has – I don't understand why people keep trying to say the Jaguars are overrated. I don't think they are.
Starting point is 00:40:18 In fact, I think they've been called overrated so much at this point that they are now underrated. That's a team that could be a – I think they're going to be a top three. They're going to be a top three seed in the AFC. At least top three. They could win more games than the Bills, I believe. And potentially more than the Jaguars. I think where their cap comes is where they meet the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Do we have any other potential? Actually, let's move on here. Biggest drop-off. Who is going to drop off the most? Who declined the most this offseason? And I think the team that leads the list right now i have to go with the kansas city chiefs like oh brother you go from listen there's doing more with less which we all know patrick mahomes can do and he will continue to do it because he is that good he is a top three core
Starting point is 00:41:22 he is going to have a top three level season. And I think the Chiefs are going to be a top four team in the AFC and probably in all of football. That's not a big drop off then. If you go from the number one seed to number four and probably barely winning your division. You're still hosting a playoff game. You are, but that's still a big drop off like that like
Starting point is 00:41:47 you are the kansas city chiefs you're patrick mahomes and also continue and also you just lost travis kelsey for a game for the opener it doesn't it's not a long-term injury it looks like but with the amount that they're using him in the offense currently, year after year, you wonder when this guy's going to give. I don't think it'll be this year. But this injury makes you scratch your head a little bit. You think about that overuse. Because if Travis Kelsey gets hurt in the same way those 2010s Patriots,
Starting point is 00:42:24 whenever Rob Gronkowski got hurt, they might be screwed because like, yeah, you can do more with less, but there's a difference between doing more with less and doing something with nothing. Because if you don't have Travis Kelsey for a significant amount of time, that's trying to do something with nothing. If you have Travis Kelsey and you have some subpar wide receivers, you could turn into number twos or maybe low end number ones. Fine. Maybe you'll, you can make a case. You can make that case there with me, but if you don't have Travis Kelsey, you're screwed. I think Patrick moments and walk out there like himself and still win that division. Honestly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Like, what are we doing here? Okay. They might win the division. Maybe, maybe they'll win the division, but I think they still may. I still think that's a massive drop off from where they were last year, because not only did you already lose Juju Smith,
Starting point is 00:43:24 Schuster and micole hardman but now if you lose travis kelsey for a little while then that's not that's actually going to be nothing that's not just less that's nothing if they're the three seed that is a drop off because then you're in the divisional round potentially going to cincinnati or jacksonville or buffalo because they have they have banked on those home games at Arrowhead to have a significant advantage. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. Now, Chiefs fans, don't bite my head off. I still have them as a contending team. I just think they're going to be significantly worse than they have been in years past. They're going to be – they'll probably be on the road for some, for some playoff games. I think they'll host at least one,
Starting point is 00:44:09 but I think that'll be it. I mean, like, tell me, tell me how you, how this chiefs game, this chiefs team wins more games than the Buffalo bills who haven't lost much or the,
Starting point is 00:44:22 the Cincinnati Bengals who have gotten significantly better. And also, I'm very high on this Jacksonville Jaguars team. They could win more games than you as well. Don't worry. Don't worry, Kansas City. You guys will be just fine. As long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy and as long as Andy Reid is your play caller, you are just fine.'t let them don't let
Starting point is 00:44:47 them make you worry the jags still have to prove it too like these teams have to get over the hump before we start saying oh kansas city's in trouble i think the cincinnati has gone head to head with them they've been right there they beat them in the afc championship game before so i'll give you cincinnati but buffalo still needs to prove they can beat them. Jacksonville still needs to prove they can beat them. In the playoffs. In the playoffs, yeah, exactly. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:45:13 These are all predictions at the end of the day. We could be entirely wrong. None of these teams could end up, with a tiny chance, none of these teams could end up contending. Who the hell knows? But I just think this Chiefs team is going to be, they're going to take the biggest drop off.
Starting point is 00:45:30 That doesn't mean they're not going to contend. That doesn't mean they're not going to win their division. I just think they go from the one seed to potentially the four, which is still a division champion. You still probably win at least 11 games. But didn't the Bills do that a few years ago? They were contenders. And they went toe-to-toe that postseason with the Kansas City Chiefs yet again.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yep. They did it in their house. They did it in their house. So all I'm saying, they're still contenders. They're still going to win their division. They're still going to the playoffs. I just said that they are going to take a drop off yeah they won 14 games last year like that's that's i i get it you're like you know that they should be they should be still good but, you go from having one of the best records in all of football
Starting point is 00:46:26 to, you know, 11-6, that's still a drop-off. No one has a chance to prove your point? What's that? The Detroit Lions have a chance to prove your point tomorrow. If the Lions go out there and maybe not only win, but score more points to them, that's a statement there. And the Chiefs have to walk off national television saying, we just got beat by the Lions.
Starting point is 00:46:56 We didn't even make the playoffs last year. Yeah, yeah. And if Mahomes throws for 33 30 under 37 yards and three touchdowns and they still beat him by 30, then there's always next week where I can say, you know what, I think Patrick Mahomes can actually do something with nothing, which would be a shocker, by the way. Or it's still nothing. I mean, Marquez Valdez-Scantling and Kadarius Toney being your top options?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Rasheed Rice. Well, maybe he becomes a number one. And Sky Moore. Well, I don't think any of them are truly number ones, but he has pieces to make them work. Yeah. But it also helps when you have Travis Kelsey to draw a lot of defensive coverage that leaves those guys open,
Starting point is 00:47:44 which is why juju smith schuster was so good that in this previous season right he's had his best years when he had an alpha lined up across from him antonio brown in years past now travis kelsey i'm just saying like juju smith schuster is a career number two option um all right. I'll give you one more, then we need to move on because we're at 48 minutes on this episode and we still need to preview the opening night. The Minnesota Vikings. I think that's a team that could make a drop off. Their offensive line still hasn't improved. Their defense doesn't look very good. They've lost a lot of pieces up front. Their secondary's lost a couple pieces as well.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And they lost Dalvin Cook too. And I know he was getting older, but when that guy was healthy, he was about as good as it gets at the running back position. And I like Alexander Madison. I don't think Madison is the same guy as Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook, doesn't matter what the matchup is, what defense is facing, he's going to put up good yardage. It feels like Alexander Madison was dependent on the matchups,
Starting point is 00:49:00 on whether or not he would put up good enough statistics. And that's still good. That's still a good running back, but it's not Dalvin Cook. And also, I like what they did at the wide receiver position. They added somebody across from Justin Jefferson to replace Adam Thielen, who could be even better than Thielen. Probably will, actually. So, I mean, that looks good.
Starting point is 00:49:29 But what difference does it make if you don't have time to throw to them? Right? Yeah. I think Kurt might be in for a rough time in Minnesota. Not that he wasn't going through it last season. It might be a little bit worse this season. I think they'll be a wild card team, like six or seven, but I don't think they'll be as good as they were last year.
Starting point is 00:49:55 If Justin Jefferson has to miss any time, they're in trouble. Yeah. And especially if Jordan Addison shows that he's actually a bust, then that's really going to be a problem. Don't say that. I like Jordan Addison shows that he's actually a bust, then that's really going to be a problem. I like Jordan Addison. I think he's going to be really good. But if in the off chance he is a bust and in a corresponding move you also lose Justin Jefferson for some time,
Starting point is 00:50:20 ooh, they're in trouble. Now they still have TJ Hawkinson, who is one of the better tight ends in football, but that also doesn't say much because the tight end position kind of blows nowadays in the NFL. You have Travis Kelsey, who's perennially been one of the best, and then you have Darren Waller and George Kittle when they're healthy. Key phrase, when they're healthy.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Good. TJ Hawkinson's been good. You don't really have much from there, do you? Are you forgetting Mark Andrews? You have Mark Andrews. You're right. I was about to say, there's a stud in Baltimore. He's just doing fine.
Starting point is 00:51:05 He's pretty good, but again, that's still a very, very top-heavy league in terms of tight ends. You have Travis Kelsey, Kittle and Waller when they're healthy, and then you've got Andrews.
Starting point is 00:51:22 That's not much. You have four tight ends out of 32 teams. One out of eight teams have an elite tight end. One out of eight. That's still not very good. Compared to all the rest of the positions, the running back position, the wide receiver position, I'm just saying, quarterback position nowadays,
Starting point is 00:51:42 now every other team has an elite quarterback now how many teams have elite receivers what about uh about kittle kittle's still elite i would say yeah kittle like i i mentioned when he when he's healthy yeah kittle when he's healthy um but that again key phrase because that's a that's a big if if he's healthy same same thing with darren waller because those two wind up getting hurt all the time. But when they're healthy, they are very good, especially Kittle. You could make a case when Kittle is healthy, he is a better tight end than Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Right up there. The impact that he makes on teams when he is on the field, you feel his presence in a way that you don't feel any other pass catcher. Not since Rob Gronkowski was in the league, at least prime Gronk. Um, he's just that good where he is. He has the size. He is, he's good with blocking. He can do everything. All right. Um, and he can score. Um, all right. We can do one more if we have one. If not, we do want to move on because we're at 52 minutes. How do we feel about the Cowboys?
Starting point is 00:52:52 I don't think they're dropping off. I don't think it's a big drop off. They'll stay right where they were. They're the Cowboys. The Cowboys? It's a good team just making it to the playoffs. Not just making it, but making it to the playoffs and losing the earlyboys. It's a good team. Just make it to the playoff. Not just make it, but make it into the playoffs and lose in the early rounds.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yes. See, I disagree. I think the Cowboys get better than they did last year. Don't do this to yourself, Adam, please. Come on.
Starting point is 00:53:16 They won. It's not funny. It hurts. You don't think they can win 12 games this year? That's not the issue I'm having it's not the amount of games they'll win in the regular season it's what they'll do in the postseason that i'm you do this to yourself every time they look good in the regular season then you're like you know what they can make it to the nfc championship games they don't even make it there right so
Starting point is 00:53:41 they're not going to drop off the second round they're not going to drop off because their standards aren't that high anyways i don't have them going to the afc champ the the nfc championship game where do you have them going i have them making the playoffs as a wild card because i was toying with the idea of them uh winning the division with the eagles facing a super bowl hangover but i feel like even with the hangover the e facing a Super Bowl hangover. But I feel like even with the hangover, the Eagles are just too talented to not win this division. They'll still make the playoffs. They'll win their division.
Starting point is 00:54:13 So I don't think there's a significant drop-off there, which that's another team who could potentially kind of fall off a little bit, but not enough so that it's significant. I just don't think they're going back to the Super Bowl. That's all. Okay. Yeah. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:54:31 But I think the Cowboys kind of stay the same. They might even get a little better than they did last year because they have a better wide receiving core. They do. It's better than it was last year. You had Brandon Cooks as your number two. I think that's better than it was last year. You had Brandon Cooks as your number two. I think that's better. Especially if he turns back into his vintage self, where he's perennially getting 1,000 to 1,100 yards.
Starting point is 00:54:53 If he does that, then it's a little better. He better. I got him on my fantasy. Exactly! So what the hell are you telling me that this team's going to get worse for? It's the Cowboys. Why do you think I have this much faith in them? There you go. I think this team's going to be fine. They won't be there.
Starting point is 00:55:13 They're going to stay the same, which is another wild card round. Another non-playoff win. That's what I think is going to happen. That's the only team this team is good for, fantasy. That's what I'm looking for because when they're down, they try to catch up, which means Dak will pass. I got Pollard.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Hey, CeeDee Lamb, though. CeeDee Lamb. I don't have him in any of my leagues, but I've had him for the last three seasons, and he has been awesome. I love CeeDee Lamb. Looking at teams that have fallen off not really any besides what we've just mentioned so all right let's move on opening night thursday night 8 20 arrowhead stadium lions at chiefs we're going to give you a full preview and predictions on who wins this game. Potential scores as well.
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Starting point is 00:57:12 we have our first game of the 2023 NFL season, guys. So kicking off this matchup preview, right off the bat, and I don't think people realize it, it's going to be a real mismatch on those front lines. You have no Chris Jones, you just traded Frank Clark, and you're going up against one of the best offensive lines in football? Yeah. That's going to be really, really tough for the Chiefs
Starting point is 00:57:45 to cause any sort of line disruption. Because if you give Jared Goff some time to throw, and you also have now a healthy Amon Ross St. Brown, I think that's going to cause some problems. Now, how much of a problem? I mean, they could drop 30 and the Chiefs will drop 40. But I think now that you don't have Travis Kelsey, it, maybe it works out for the, for the chiefs down the road, if they miss him for any more time after this, but if you, for Kelsey, for Mahomes to not have
Starting point is 00:58:21 Kelsey for the first time in a, in his entire career. He's had him for all of the big games. He has been able to have him as a safety blanket. If the wide receiver position ever failed, he would be able to throw to Travis Kelsey. He does not have him for this game. That is going to be a problem. And I think it's going to cause for a very, very close matchup. So I have this being a close one, and honestly, I have an upset here. I think the Chiefs are going to punt on this game, say we're making the playoffs anyways, we're playing for the championship, the Lions are looking for as many wins as they can get.
Starting point is 00:59:04 I have the Lions pulling the upset in this matchup. I don't have that. I think the Chiefs are going to come away with it. I think that they're the favorites and they want to put their foot down and say, hey, we're going to run this back. They want the game. They want as many games they can get. I think Mahomes would be fine without Kelsey. I think people were saying the same thing last year about Tyree Kill saying, oh no, what is he going to do without a dynamic wide receiver running down the field for him? I think he'll be fine. He'll make do. I think it'll be close. I think it'll probably be within one or two scores,
Starting point is 00:59:40 but I think the Chiefs do get the win. I think it'ss do get the win. Okay. I think it's going to be a thriller Thursday night opening game. I think Detroit is going to come out ready to play. I believe that offense will show up and see why they took Jameer Gibbs in the first round. I think Kansas City's offense will be just fine. I am a little worried about the defense because Chris Jones isn't there.
Starting point is 01:00:06 So I feel like they'll be overly reliant on blitzing, and it'll cost them in some areas. Equinemius St. Brown will have a great day. But overall, I think – I'm sorry. I'm on Ross St. Brown. Why did I say Equinemius? I'm on Rossing Brown. Why did I say Aquarius? I'm on Rossing Brown. We'll have a good day.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But overall, I think the Chiefs take it on their field opening night. I think the momentum will carry them to victory this time. I'm going to predict the score, Kansas City 27, Detroit 24. Okay. CJ. Now there's a saying in the sportage world called a win is a win is a win. Well, I'm here to tell you all wins are not created equal.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I do think the Kansas city chiefs are going to win, but I will tell you right now, there's a difference between a win and a convincing win. They're going to win, but it's going to be, I think, a shootout. It's going to be scary. The Chiefs, they're just the more experienced team. You know, you have Mahomes. We know he can do more with less.
Starting point is 01:01:21 But it's going to be, how do I put this? It's an unsatisfying win where it's one of those rare cases where you win but despite the fact you have a w on the schedule you somehow leave the game with more questions than answers you know what i mean like it's going to be a win but it's going to be something that it's going to be hard fought and i think it's going to expose probably the chris jones list of defense and their lackluster secondary you know yeah once again they win but it's it's like a it's almost like a last second field goal they need or something yeah they're gonna're going to win, but they're going to lose a kneecap.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Shout out Dan Campbell. You know what? I like this. I like that I'm the only one here who has picked the Lions to win this game. It makes me more excited for this matchup. And I might have egg on my face next Tuesdayuesday when uh when we find out that they actually did not win but i think just i also think if this chiefs team wins this game yeah it will be ugly but i feel like that's more of a positive for the chiefs because it shows that they can still win
Starting point is 01:02:42 they can still win the games where they're shorthanded. They don't have a lot of pieces in this game. They really don't. That's not a secret. But if they pull it off, even if it doesn't look good, it shows, okay, you're facing a competitive team, a team that could potentially contend over in the NFC, and you beat them without your best pieces shows that when you have your best they're even stronger than they are right now if they don't if they don't have those pieces and they're still biting scratching and clawing and getting wins just gutting them out I see value there too so yeah in some ways a win is a win is a win is a win. That's not completely accurate. But in others, I do see some value, especially when you're shorthanded. You know it's not going to last. You know you're getting help back. Travis Kelsey will return, and the Chiefs will figure
Starting point is 01:03:38 something out with Chris Jones to get him back. But if you win this game in the meantime, I see value there. It sounded like you had something to say there, CJ. Also, you're muted. No, I was just turning some stuff over in my head. I mean, I get it, but I guess it's going to be one of those rare cases where you win, but you're going – you may have a W on the schedule, but you're going to be one of those rare cases where you win, but you're going – you may have a W on the schedule, but you're going to come out of that game weaker. So weaker in terms of – so because – In terms of like morale, in terms of – see, when you win,
Starting point is 01:04:20 it's never good where you win, but like I said, but there's more questions than answers. The last thing you want after winning is your fan base asking questions. You, especially as a good team, you don't want them asking questions. That's what it's going to be. Cause it'd be like,
Starting point is 01:04:36 wow, how neat it is. Chris Jones. Wow. Maybe they shouldn't have dumped all their money on two players, you know, stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's, that, stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:46 That's a good point. Maybe it's the hangover year for them instead where they've been continuously going to the AFC Championship and Super Bowls, and this is the year where they take a little step back. Okay. That could be for them as well, but, you know, if they don't win this – if they win this game, either way I see value in it.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'm just saying – because we then you're getting your most significant pieces on both sides of the ball, your Chris Joneses, your Travis Kelseys of the world, you know you're getting them back, then you feel a lot better about it. If you get them back, let's say Travis Kelsey, and then he gets hurt again and he's out for a significant time, then it might be kind of time to worry because then it shows that you don't look great on paper with these teams. You might be able to win some games, but if you look that ugly in games, then how are you supposed to look in the postseason, right? But my point is you know you're getting these pieces back
Starting point is 01:06:04 unless something crazy happens with Chris Jones. Right? But you know, my point is, you know, you're getting these pieces back. Unless something crazy happens with Chris Jones. But I'm willing to bet he'll be back at some point in the season. But if you know you're getting these pieces back and you still win while you're shorthanded, that's something that is valuable. Shows that you can gut out the wins even when you don't have all your pieces. Right? That's important.
Starting point is 01:06:28 That's something that matters, especially when it's against a competitive team like the Detroit Lions, right? I mean, this is a team that a lot of people have making the playoffs and winning their division. So if they win a game, even if it looks ugly, while they don't have Travis Kelsey and Chris Jones, that's still a very good thing. That's my point. Yes, sir.
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Starting point is 01:08:16 our show so as i mentioned we can't mention all of them anymore we just get too many per week this week we got 30 the week before that we got 34. Are we going to mention all of those? We're going to be here all day if that's the case. You guys, if you get picked out of those dozens of responses, you get the honor.
Starting point is 01:08:37 You get to earn it by being the best response. This week again, it's lost in our feed because sometimes our feed just gets really active and it expires and all of the recent and all of the reasons especially with this reel that we posted that just blew up currently is at 500 000 views so half a million but with all those likes that show up we can't find our responses they get lost um so now from now on we are going to need to start writing them down as they come up come
Starting point is 01:09:13 out instead of putting them out but we have we know exactly what was said just not who said it a lot of people said the bangles and i think that's the popular answer. I don't think there really needs to be much to be said there. I mean, they have an offensive line that's very much improved. They have arguably the best receiving core in all of football. You have one of the best quarterbacks in football in Joe Burrow, and you could say, well, Patrick Mahomes is the best. I agree, but that doesn't mean that Borough can't have a better season this year, in 2023.
Starting point is 01:09:49 We're talking about through their careers. It's no contest. It's Patrick Mahomes. I know since Tuck decided to interrupt and say boo, I'll throw him a bone and bring up the Ravens that came up. There we go. The explanation is pretty simple. So this team has been run first Lamar's entire career,
Starting point is 01:10:15 and they probably will be again. But I think there's going to be a little more balance here. You bring in Zay Flowers. You bring in Odell Beckham Jr in uh you bring in odell beckham jr you still have rashad bateman who's going to come back healthy at some point in 2023 whenever that'll be um you got devon duvernay you have mark andrews that's a pretty good passing attack and zay zay flowers looks really really good from preseason, from training camp. He's looked good.
Starting point is 01:10:53 So if Lamar Jackson can prove, can show that he can throw at a higher volume with accuracy, we already know that he can throw to an extent. How much can he do it? Can he compete with Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen and Sheamus? Yes. We're going to find out this season. So that defense looks still pretty good. You lost Marlon Humphrey for a few weeks. How long is it going to be, though?
Starting point is 01:11:18 It's a week-to-week basis. I don't think we'll have him for week one. Week two is still an option. But we'll wait and see. I think we'll be fine for week one, Week two is still an option. But we'll wait and see. I think we'll be fine for week one. But week two is where I'm more concerned. Yep. We got some picks for the 49ers.
Starting point is 01:11:34 And I think the 49ers, outside of their quarterback situation, good as gold. They look awesome. Besides Brock Purdy, who's coming off a ucl tear and also while he looked really good in the games that he played last year we don't it was a reasonably small sample size right so like he he number, he could be really good. But number two, he was also around a good offensive line, a good passing core, a good defense behind him. I mean, all of these things, like, they might have that next year. But, God forbid, they get some injuries. I think the 49ers are telling us that they're very, very confident and pretty by getting rid of both Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo
Starting point is 01:12:31 to just have him be, all right, you're going to be the number one. And Sam Darnold is going to be your backup. That's saying they have a lot of confidence in it. And they called him their starter pretty early on, very very early so i i do agree they're showing some confidence but will they will it pay off we're gonna find out this season um couple of question marks there at the quarterback position but everywhere else we know they can ball out it's just a question of whether their quarterback can play up to their standards and also if they can stay healthy. If so, this team could – I mean, the sky is the limit for them this year. Favorites, definitely favorites.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah. We got some Seahawks votes, didn't we? Yeah, we did. We got a few. So the 49ers division rivals, I understand the hype. So their tackle duo, one of the best young tackle duos in the league their interior was where they had issues they addressed that this offseason they also worked on their defense in some big ways and they also gave geno smith who had his
Starting point is 01:13:38 the best career of his his best season that he's ever had in his entire career, pulled the dows out of his ass. They gave him a new toy in Jackson Smith and Jigba. So they have some pieces to throw to. So in theory, this should work out. I am just very, very skeptical about Geno Smith because we saw what he was like last year, but we've also seen what he was like his entire career.
Starting point is 01:14:10 So he regrets back. Is it just Luke? Cause we've seen, we have some history quarterbacks who have regressed case Keenum being one of them, the Vikings, and then fell off again. That's a good example.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I would say it's a little bit Nick Foles went on a hot run to the Super Bowl then kind of fell off again. Yeah, but I think Case Keenum and Nick Foles are not really as comparable as you may think because Nick Foles, it was under such a tiny sample size, just a few games at the end of the year where he caught fire. Same thing with Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's done that a couple of times where he just got red hot for a few weeks. Case Keenum was good for an entire season, 12-4 record,
Starting point is 01:14:59 took him to the NFC Championship game. Only problem is they got their faces ripped off by Nick Foles in the conference championship game. So, yeah. And then he was never the same after that. But we all knew that Case Keenum, in the seasons prior, was never that kind of guy. So it was very – and it was a big drop-off the very next season.
Starting point is 01:15:26 The thing that Geno Smith has going for him is that he's on the same team. So he really doesn't have to adjust too much. There's that too because I know they got rid of Case Keenum the year after and they brought in Kirk Cousins. That worked out for him. See, Tuck? See what happens when you bring in a sub top 10 quarterback give them so much money i'm not doing this with you you don't have to answer that
Starting point is 01:15:55 i'm not i'm not dignifying that let's just um we have some we had a couple votes for the bills and i think they deserve to be in this conversation, but they also need to prove it that they can get over that hump because they have had a lot of issues in December with still winning football games. They start off these seasons red hot, and then they cool off. Like you would never even imagine pun intended with the cool um and it gets tougher because their offensive line doesn't look quite as good as it once did they got rid of isaiah mckenzie they have gabe davis as a wide receiver too but he's just a he not a, he's a wide receiver too. They didn't address their biggest need, which was their,
Starting point is 01:16:50 which was their running game. It doesn't look that, it doesn't look very good. I like Damian Harris. I've always liked Damian Harris. I never loved him. And he was, he's also not a bell cow back, as we have learned the hard way for the Patriots. And he looks like his best days are behind him. You also have James Cook, who has so far failed to live up to his expectations.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I expected them to address their needs this offseason. And I thought they would have wanted to be in on Dalvin Cook, who I believe still has some gas left in the tank. They didn't. They didn't do any of that. There's still Leonard Fournette who's available, who I think would be better than all the guys that they have. And they still haven't bitten on any of them.
Starting point is 01:17:38 So that's a problem. They could have gotten Miles Sanders. That would have been a better one. They didn't do anything like that. They got Damian Harris. So they haven't really gotten Miles Sanders. That would have been a better one. They haven't, they didn't do anything like that. They got Damian Harris. Um, so they haven't really gotten much better. They kind of stay the same. They win 12, 13 games. And then that'll be that they they're out in the divisional round in maybe the conference championship. If they get there. Um, all right. I know you guys had the list in front of you who else did we have that
Starting point is 01:18:07 that i'm missing or did we get all the ones that we wanted to cover i think that's basically like the gist of like some of the big ones yeah and we don't want to say any joke ones like the texans that one was a joke all right I'm reading through it right now. A lot of Bengals votes. A lot of – I'm just trying to make a case. There are multiple Seahawks ones too. I mean, I know someone said Miami, I think.
Starting point is 01:18:37 We mentioned them. I guess Miami you can muddle in there as a team. Somebody said the Giants, but I don't know if they were joking or just delusional. The Jets are a dark horse. I don't think anyone said the Jets. No, I didn't see any. So I'm not sure if they're even capable of winning the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Hard Knocks curses real kids. Yeah. Yeah. The Giants. Yeah, the Giants were listed. The Buccaneers were listed. Not mentioning that. Um, yeah, the Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:19:11 If their offensive line somehow, some way works out, that's a team that even last year, they had, they were eight and three, and they had the potential to go all the way. They had the potential to be the top seed. They didn't wind up doing that because their offensive line was so bad. They got to a hurt. So they have to prove that that offensive line can be good enough.
Starting point is 01:19:43 There was also the Cowboys. No. Just no. Just no. It's not their year. They look better, but that doesn't say much. All right, guys. That's all our responses.
Starting point is 01:19:58 We have any other thoughts before we end the show tonight? No. I'm just ready for Thursday. Just ready for Thursday. Finally. I know. About time. Alright, guys. Well, that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us. We have new episodes
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