The Fumblerooski Podcast - Who's Up Next -Ep 360 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

What does Justin Tucker's allegations do to the Ravens' reputation with personnel around the league? The Commanders and Chargers went from the basement of the NFL to the playoffs last season. Who's ne...xt in line? Chris Costich, CJ Medeiros, and Justin Tucker (our co-host) debate this and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Justin Tucker officially released by the Baltimore Ravens calling it a football decision But everybody knows that that's not necessarily the case 13 seasons with the Ravens and he's all done teams to go from six wins or less in 10 plus or To 10 plus wins in one season the last 10 seasons commanders did it last year, along with the Chargers. Who could be next? This is the Full Marouski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides This is the Fumbaruski podcast by Powerade 18 radio in secret weapon consulting I'm Chris Kostich with us CJ Maderos and the good Justin Tucker and Well, we're just gonna go right into that news really 13 seasons of being probably the best kicker of all time, the best kicker in the world really. And he's now released
Starting point is 00:01:16 by the Ravens as of yesterday, today being May 6th, recording this at 3.49 p.m. and the NFL investigating into allegations of improper conduct and well if you know anything about the Deshaun Watson situation this is basically along the same lines and unfortunate of course because Tucker was as mentioned the best kicker in the world having the longest field goal in NFL history highest career longest field goal in NFL history, highest career field goal percentage in NFL history, and originally signed with the Ravens as an undrafted free agent following the 2012 NFL draft. In a statement that the Ravens released, considering our current roster, we have made the tough
Starting point is 00:02:04 decision to release Justin Tucker. As mentioned saying, it is a football decision. But, pass it around the room, Tuck. Since you're the Ravens fan and sharing the Justin Tucker name, we'll let you go first. What are your just general thoughts right now? Well To be honest, I'm I'm saying that we had to let go of our kicker, but the circumstances are the circumstances it's unfortunate that Justin Tucker finds himself in the
Starting point is 00:02:42 compromising position he finds himself in but sucker finds himself in the compromising position he finds himself in. But he had to be let go because if you're going to draft a kicker and use draft capital, you kind of have to get rid of the other kicker because there's no point in using draft capital for a kicker. You might as well just sign in and draft it at that point. So I knew what was coming. It was going to be eventual. So I hope him the best of luck. I hope he's innocent,
Starting point is 00:03:09 but if not, we had to move on from him. It sucks, but it is what it is. I just realized I was muted on this. So here's the thing. Obviously, you know, he's been released and before I get into that, I want to point out to the Cleveland Browns specifically, hey, you can release someone who's a diddler. I'm just saying, the Ravens show that it can be done. And now that Justin Tucker's a free agent, I'm just putting it out there into the universe. The Cleveland Browns have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever. the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And I'm going to tell you this right now. I need to make this abundantly clear. I think the Ravens made the right decision by getting rid of them. Justin Tucker, though the Ravens kicker, not our friend, is probably the second best kicker, not our friend, is the probably the second best kicker of all time. Some would say the best. Yeah, I see you down there, Mr. Ravens fan. Just calm down. Me personally, you will not catch me saying that old Justin
Starting point is 00:04:37 Toucher is the best kicker of all time. Not happening. But regardless, he's was going to be a future Hall of Famer. I don't know. I mean, he probably will be, but you know, these things can always affect that because, you know, the media chooses who gets in and the media does not forget. They might forgive, but oh lord have mercy they do not forget. That's why TO wasn't the first ballot Hall of Famer and I the one issue I have the Ravens doing this isn't the fact that they did it it was their statement um we're the Ravens considering our current roster we've made the toughs in to release Justin Tucker it totally has something to do with the fact that he's a pervert and a
Starting point is 00:05:19 predator he it was a football decision aha a football decision. Uh-huh. A football decision. Was it a football decision to get rid of Jerry, or to get rid of Ray Rice as well? Like, was that a football decision too? I'm sure you thought it was, but I promise you it's not. I mean, we all knew this was coming. The writing was on the wall and they drafted that kicker. I believe it was Tyler Loop out of the University
Starting point is 00:05:43 of Arizona. And this shouldn't shock anybody and Justin Tucker could deny the alley or not not not you tuck obviously but uh we'll call him something else their kicker Justin Tugger that's it he can deny the allegations as much as he wants it's it's, it's still true. I'm sorry. I mean, yes, you're innocent until proven guilty, but here's the thing. Where there's smoke, there's fire. And it's kind of like the Deshaun Watson
Starting point is 00:06:16 situation all over again, when you have that many people coming forward and saying, hey, maybe this guy's a bit of a pervert, that's kind of when you really have to take it seriously and once again a lot of these star athletes get away with so much across really all four major American sports but hey it's nice to see some accountability finally which is weird because the Ravens you know weren't really big necessarily on accountability you know you had one of their greatest players ever murder someone another one of their great defensive stalwarts poured bleach on his wife
Starting point is 00:06:50 But hey Ravens baby steps baby steps. I mean you got rid of Ray Rice got rid of Justin Tucker Maybe you can redeem yourselves one way. I mean, sorry not not you Justin Tucker Justin Toucher I meant but either way Thank you Ravens. I'll give you a golf clap for making the right decision. You still have one up on Cleveland. A lot of shots at you there, Tuck. You wanna respond? I know we're not talking about the Patriots fan over here, but we'll leave it alone.
Starting point is 00:07:19 We'll leave it alone. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Aaron Hernandez was cut and imprisoned. Ray Lewis is a murderer and- Alleged, alleged. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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Starting point is 00:07:39 whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Ray Lewis. So, both of the Pets fans over here talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am. I am. Because we don't go to bat for Hernandez. You still, to this
Starting point is 00:07:49 day, go to bat for Ray Lewis. So, come on. He's been tried and he's not been guilty of committed murder. Alleged, apparently. Alleged. It's alleged. Can't be, we can't be talking about absolutes, CJ. That's for the Sith.
Starting point is 00:08:06 But, yeah, let's just stay with the player we're talking about. I guess. Yeah. Anyways, I guess the last thing I would love to throw in there, you know, they call it a football decision. Of course, the allegations looming over his head. But I mean, I think that when you look at the season he had last year, uh, career worst field goal percentage, uh, this past season, I mean, I think that when you look at the season he had last year, career worst field goal percentage this past season, he kind of threw Baltimore bone by having such a shit season,
Starting point is 00:08:35 so that he could be cut along with all of this. They could call it a football decision because of that, along with him being old, potentially. How old is Justin Tucker anyways? I know he's in his 30s. I'm not entirely certain. And Chris, I do have to mention that- 35.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Oh yeah, so yeah, he's an unk. I will tell you though, I do believe that though, well, I don't necessarily believe it was a pure football decision. They definitely weren't confident in him with the style of play that he showed during the season. He played horrifically and this is kind of just a natural turn for the, it's a natural outcome. I mean, his job would have been jeopardy regardless, but this just sealed it, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah. Especially when the story first came out, a lot of people used this and said, well, here's your reason why Tucker did so terribly in this past season because he had this secretly looming over his head probably. And here we are now. When did the first story, the story first come out? Oh, during the off season, I think. I just don't know when. I know it was like before. It was when we got eliminated by the Bills and then a few days after it started to surface.
Starting point is 00:10:07 That's right. So we're talking about two months later and now this is coming to light two, three months later this is coming to light. Justin Tucker, eight time All-Pro, seven time Pro Bowler and part of the NFL 2010s All-Decade team released by the Baltimore Ravens. Anything else you guys want to touch on regarding this? So, Tucker, we've mentioned that there's a new kicker as well in Baltimore. We'll touch on this.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I mean, no pun intended. I mean, no pun intended. Geez. But we'll get to that. I guess, do you see him as probably being the new kicker at that point? Or maybe Baltimore goes to free agency market and tries to pick up a kicker as like, or a veteran kicker or something like that?
Starting point is 00:11:06 No, I think we're going to keep Tyler Lube because we did spend a six-round draft pick on him. From what I've seen so far, he's got a leg, obviously, and he can kick it from like 60 yards or 60-something yards. So he has the potential to be great. It's just a matter of the reps. And now that Justin Tucker's not there, he'll get plenty of reps at that. So I think it's just a matter of the reps and now that Justin Tucker's not there he'll get plenty of reps at that so I think it's just a matter of the coaching he'll get and the The camaraderie he has with this the placeholder and the snapper so as far as I'm concerned I think he'll be just fine as long as he doesn't do anything Unseemly, I think we'll be fine. I think he'll be good for our team because we need the kicking Yeah imagine if
Starting point is 00:11:47 He becomes the non-predatorial Justin Tucker 26 years of having Some of the best kicking of all time that'd be Kind of insane. Yeah, but the Patriots did the same with Vinatieri and Kostowski. Yeah No, I know I I'm with Vinatarian and Kostowski. Yeah. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I'm not saying it's impossible to happen, of course. I'm just saying it'd be kind of wild if that were to happen though. Because it- It'd be very nice. Because like, obviously you mentioned the Patriots, but who else does that really, who else has that happened to though?
Starting point is 00:12:21 Not at that position though, but it's happened before. Yeah. I'm more talking about that position. Yeah, I can't name it off the top of my head, but no, it's very rare. CJ, any thoughts on that? Yeah, so Tyler Luke, his whole thing is that he has a cannon leg. That's pretty much it. He even made a 62 yarder last season. The thing is that I don't like is that his mechanics
Starting point is 00:12:55 are a little weird where sometimes he take, I mean, when I say mechanics, the kicking motion is fine. It's just sometimes he takes his sweet time. I mean, for example, he had not one, but two kicks blocked two seasons ago. I think he might've had one blocked last season. And I know he has at least three career kicks blocked. And sometimes, is that a follow the line?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, but I watched the film that was on him. He just stopped, he waits. And then sometimes you have a big leg. You really kind of have to charge it up follow the line. Yeah, but I watched the film that was on him. He just stopped. He waits and then sometimes you have a big leg. You really kind of have to charge it up for lack of a better word, but you know, that's pretty much it. And the, but that can be coached out of him, right? I think he's fine, but the one thing that really concerns me about Loop might be his personality. I don't know if you saw us at Arizona, he's very vocal when he's upset, which is probably not a good thing for a kicker to do.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Hey, Mike Vanderjatt anyone? All the Colts fans shudder when I say that name. You mean Vander Choak? Yeah, pretty much. And whenever he's disappointed with the long snapper and the holder, he makes it known. I mean, this is literally, you can literally go to his draft profile on NFL Network and it says, and I quote, makes it known when he's disappointed with the holder. But he has gotten into arguments, right?
Starting point is 00:14:21 And there are some times where he misses a kick and it's his fault. And whether it's the long snap or the holder or whatever, he will just like jump down someone's throat and hopefully Harbaugh can get it out of him. But then again, if he does, yeah, if he does have some kind of a hot temper as it were, then considering that your last kicker was Justin Tugger, then odds are that you can deal with this is all I'm saying. I think you'll be fine with the team, with the players surrounding him and the coaching staff, especially when it comes to special teams, because that's John Harbaugh's thing. That's kind of how he got his name. I don't think you'll be that much of a problem.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Right on. I would doubt it, but yeah. Yeah, who knows? We're gonna step aside for a quick break when we come back. We're gonna get into teams to go from six wins or less to 10 plus wins in one season. Talk about what's happened in the last 10 seasons in terms of teams that have done that and who could be right to do it For next season. This is the former risky podcast It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet But you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides
Starting point is 00:15:55 Welcome back to the phone Bruce key podcast on power 18 radio and secret weapon consulting not on by power 18 radio Not on my apologies Chris Goss is CJ Medeiros Justin Tucker so in the last 10 seasons 21 teams have gone from six wins or less to 10 plus in just one season. Just one season, one big turnaround. Last season it was the commanders and the Chargers. Commanders went four and 13 in the 23 season. Pickup Jaden Daniels amongst a bunch of other talent, go 12 and 5 last season. Chargers, 2023 abysmal, abysmal season, 5 and 12. Justin Herbert gets hurt for most of the season. Next season, 2024, Jim Harbaugh becomes the head coach, 10 and 7 season,
Starting point is 00:16:42 but bounced in the first round. One of the more notable ones in the last five years, at least, the Texans going 3 and 13 and 1, pick up CJ Stroud, go 10 and 7, make it to the divisional round, which they ended up losing to Tuck's Ravens. But that's one of the more notable turnarounds, at least in the last few seasons, besides the commanders and the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So looking at at least like what the Chargers did, picked up a new head coach, drafted an offensive tackle in Joe Walt, got a very good wide receiver in Lad McConkney. Still a question on if he's going to be a suitable number one, but he had a very good rookie season, so see how that works out looking at the commanders from going into last season, new head coach, new quarterback, new running back and Austin Eckler to share time with Brian Robinson. Got a new O line Tyler Bia... Wow. CJ help me, help me. Biotis. Biotis. Thank you. Nick Allegretti.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Brandon Coleman to fill out the O line. Dante Fowler Jr. and got a veteran in Bobby Wagner on defense. This commander stuff sounds a lot like what the Patriots just got done with probably minus the quarterback spot, right? So I've obviously kind of inferring that the Patriots might be part of that new turnaround
Starting point is 00:18:21 But tuck in CJ. What do you got? What team do you guys think? Could be ripe for a big turnaround this next season you're gonna have a talk for me when I look at like the landscape and which one has like the most potential to turn it around rather quickly I kind of look to the AFC self because I think that's one of the more easier divisions to like. And we're talking about six wins or less. And I see the Tennessee Titans being one of the teams that could easily turn it around and be competitive in that division. I think 10 ones can get you the division.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I think they can be competitive with Houston now that they have a competent quarterback and their defense doesn't have to be on the field the majority of the time. Because believe it or not, I thought their defense was rather good. It's just that they were on the field all the time and they couldn't really do much about it cuz their quarterback looks just awful. They were able to give Cam Ward some talent. They still have Tyler Boyd.
Starting point is 00:19:19 They just got his wide receiver from Miami. His offensive line is better than what it was in college. I think if given enough time, I think the Tennessee Titans can be competent enough to win some games that they probably shouldn't. They'll probably split with the Texans, but they can beat the Jaguars. And I believe they can beat the Colts because the Colts are the Colts. And I think they can win 10 games, beat and finish 10 and 7, possibly win the division or snatch up a wild card spot. I think if I looked around and I see the one with the most potential to do it, it will be them because the Patriots, for them to
Starting point is 00:19:57 win 10 and 7, they would have to beat the Bills one of those times. And that's still going to be a tough ask to do. But I still I think it's Tennessee right now. CJ. As far as the Titans go, Justin, I think you're right. But for me, my problem with the Tennessee Titans is very simple very simple coaching. Uh if are really gonna be put to it takes. It's very possib up their offensive line, the root of their problem
Starting point is 00:20:42 Stefan digs. They drafted I mean sure they're gonna be without take Dell and Stefan digs they drafted both the receivers from Iowa State with Higgins and Noel and on top of that they grab Christian Kirk, so I can't really Hey on that bit, but Bremen with the Titans, but regardless that I don't know man. I see you're coming from Another interesting selection would it not be the Bears? I mean, consider that, right? The Bears, they they they went what?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Like they had like five wins last season. Six. Five and 12. Yep. Five. Yeah. And a lot of that wasn't, I mean, sure you can say Cade Williams onto the ball too long. Maybe they were a little thin some spots on the roster But I would say about a solid 75 of their problems literally just boiled down to coaching matt eberfluss never should have been brought back. They brought him back for I can't tell you why And they regretted it. They you know canned him after that disastrous came. I mean we all remember it that was pretty funny, but
Starting point is 00:21:50 But you know Caleb Williams, I believe will take the next step He already has a solid team round with DJ more of Roma doons a beyond ray swift Cole commit first round tight end Colston Loveland a beefed up offensive line which now has guys like Drew Dalvin and Joe Tooney and a defense which looks to improve. So as a whole, yeah, I definitely think Chicago has the ability to get it done. The only issue that I can see is the NFC North as a whole. That is a scary, scary division where, I'm sorry, no matter how you slice it, unless everybody on the Lions and Packers get hurt, you're probably not going to win the division. I mean, like they just they don't have the horses to
Starting point is 00:22:47 compete with the Lions maybe and it's a big maybe the Packers but I don't know if Jordan Love, you know, I mean, hey, once Toyota Thong comes around, you know how he is. I don't know how it happens but it just kind of happens and
Starting point is 00:23:04 overall, I would say yeah I I don't see them being the Packers and the Vikings are probably the biggest wild card because they made the playoffs with Sam Darnall. They're going to JJ McCarthy. He's he's the big unknown. So if he turns out
Starting point is 00:23:18 to even be halfway decent, that's still going to make the Vikings maybe not formidable, but make them a thorn in your side. So the Bears have the ability to get it done. It's the a word, it's unserious. You know, both their GM and their head coach are on the hot seat. Tua can't stay healthy. In fact, you wanted them to go QB in round one. I mean, you're watching at B-Dub, you said they should have taken Shador because, you know, Tua can't stay healthy. It's not a take I agree with, but I understand where you're coming from. And the Jets, they are the Jets. Meanwhile, the Patriots, you have a competent head coach in Mike Raible, a proven offensive coordinator in Josh McDaniels,
Starting point is 00:24:13 a really good or should be a good defensive coordinator in Terrell Williams. And look at who they brought in. Milton Williams, Harold Landry, Carlton Davis, Stephon Diggs, and Morgan Moses in free agency, along with other smaller additions like Robert Spillane and Mack Hollins. That's going to make for some great team building there. And they crushed the draft. They had one of, if not the best draft, drafting guys like Will Campbell, Trevion Henderson,
Starting point is 00:24:44 Jared Wilson, and Kyle Williams to boot, you know, for the offense. And he even had some good late round defensive gems like Joshua Farmer and Braden Swinson. And of course, a lot of this for New England, forget the division, it's gonna hinge on Drake May. Now last season Drake May had, at least on paper, the worst offensive line in the league. Now some of that was because of injuries, but some of that was just because, you know, they just didn't address it well.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I mean, we all remember that line. You had a tackle, Viderian Lowe and Demontre Jacobs, Layden Robinson, and at some points, Lester Cotton at guard, whenever onwenu couldn't start but Anwenu was there he was good and then Ben Brown at center. Outside of Anwenu you're gonna have like four new starters on that line well not new because like you know Colestrange coming back from injury. Now at tackle you have Morgan Moses and Will Campbell, Anwenu is still guard, Colestrange coming
Starting point is 00:25:42 back at guard and either have Garrett Bradbury or Jared Wilson at center. So their whole thing is that they need to protect Drake May, and I think they did, kind of like what I said with the Bears, where it's now all on Caleb Williams. Same things with New England. It's all on Drake May now. So while I respect your Titans take, I do think it's the Bears or New England or the Patriots. They have the best odds, I think, to jump from single-digit wins to at least 10. Also, for what it's worth, I don't know off the top of my head,
Starting point is 00:26:19 but the Patriots do have the second easiest schedule in the league next season. That's what I do that I think is really important that we really need to talk about, you know, for all these teams. Because when you look at the Patriots, especially last few seasons, right, Chris, you and I both know the Patriots the the the the bad, but especially last season where you had arguably the hardest schedule in the league to now it lightens up a bit and even Like three seasons ago. They had a top ten hardest schedule So finally schedule makers are kind of a break the Titans on the other hand to Tuck's credit
Starting point is 00:27:17 They do have the eighth easiest schedule So it's very possible that they could play well So it's very possible that they could play well, but I am kind of shooting myself the foot here with my Bears take because the Bears have the 26th easiest schedule in the league, or seventh hardest as it were. So yeah, that might make things a little tougher. Then again, for the Bears,
Starting point is 00:27:44 a lot of it just might be the division so Hey for I mean, maybe they'll prove me wrong, but the schedule is just not looking good I mean at least the Patriots and the Titans have their Schedule to back them. I mean to give them some kind of backing. So hey thumbs up for them Oh, by the way in case you were wondering The New York Giants despite the fact they objectively terrible team, have the hardest schedule this year. It's not important, just a fun fact. I don't think any of us were really throwing the Giants out there.
Starting point is 00:28:16 No, no, no, no. It's just a fun fact. They have the hardest schedule, since we're wondering. I'm gonna say it circles back to my point about how it sucks when your team's already bad And then you have like a really hard schedule kind of like New England last year where they had like I think the hardest Or the second hardest and it's like well damn Nothing you can do about it. Mm-hmm Another team I'll throw out there on the AFC West the Raiders new head coach, veteran quarterback in Geno Smith, that head coach being Pete Carroll. You know how those two work together when they're in
Starting point is 00:28:53 Seattle. Up the O-line a little bit by grabbing Alex Gappa. Expanded on the defense, Jeremy Chin, Alan Roberts, Eric Stokes. Let's fix up the run game while we're at it. Let's draft Assen-Ginti, 6 overall. Now, I don't know if I'm just getting a whiff of the drug of Pete Carroll. Maybe I'm getting a whiff of the drug of the quarterback, Geno Smith. But maybe that this could be a year that the Raiders are gonna be out to compete a little bit more stability right now especially with Pete Carroll at the helm a little bit more stability seems like you're treading towards the
Starting point is 00:29:36 right direction especially with the Chiefs seemingly being very vulnerable we don't really know what's gonna, if the Chargers gonna keep going on this upward trajectory, but seeing with the history of Jim Harbaugh, it usually keeps going up. Maybe the Raiders are up there competing for the AFC West title. Maybe being a close second, maybe being a wildcard team. I mean, it's very possible.
Starting point is 00:30:06 The only issue with the Raiders, like I said, going back to strength of schedules, that they're around the middle of the pack in terms of that. Sorry, there's a Nat over here. But yeah, no, I do think you have a good point. And the only problem is once again, good Lord, they just have a really nasty,
Starting point is 00:30:28 just unforgiving schedule. I mean, not unforgiving schedule, a division. You know? I mean, the Chiefs are, I mean, as long as they have the Holmes, there's still going to be a threat, I'd imagine. And then of course, you've got the Broncos who are coming off a playoff birth and
Starting point is 00:30:46 to make matters worse, you know, you got the Jim Harbaugh led Chargers, so It's gonna be tough. I mean you look at the Broncos and you think the same thing as the Chargers almost like You're not really sure if they're gonna keep on this upward trajectory going into year two of this They're not really sure if they're going to keep on this upward trajectory going into year two of this or well for Sean Payne it's year three but in terms of going to the playoffs and back to back years keeping up with that upward trajectory. Yeah. And I also want to point out another thing.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I would say that the majority of the teams that end up going from six wins or less to 10 plus in one season, I would say most of the 21 teams in the last decade that have done this, new head coach, that was one of the differences. They ended up getting a new head coach going into that year that they go up or go over 10 wins. Now there's more to it than that of course but I think the besides the Titans the Patriots the Bears the Raiders the three teams that we threw out there we also mentioned the Jaguars another
Starting point is 00:31:55 team that picked up a new head coach we could we're not gonna throw out the Saints but that's another team that got a new head coach. That's just a trend that I kind of saw when I was looking through the list. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think you make some good points there. I mean, a good head coach really does change everything, you know, yeah But um I guess to keeping on the jaguars part though real quick new head coach Liam Cohen
Starting point is 00:32:35 Patrick mccary robber hainsey to Fix your line a little bit. And of course the big one of the big stories in on draft day Was uh the jaguars swapping picks with the Browns Moving up to number two and drafting Travis Hunter Seemingly like he might is gonna play both ways but I Still think that the Jaguars are probably another year or two from really being considered
Starting point is 00:33:06 Playoff contender, but I think tuck Mentioned this right before he made his point was how the AFC South both the AFC South and then FC South are kind of a shitstorm and anything can really happen and You could probably flip a coin and there's your division winner. Yeah. Yeah. I do think you make a convincing argument. It's just... I'm not saying that Jaguar is winning. No, no, no. I didn't say you weren't. I just... It's all going to be Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:33:40 It's all exclusively on Trevor Lawrence. It's all exclusively on Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I feel like you'd have to convince me more that the Jaguars are going to be one of those teams to go over 10 wins. Yeah, I just I don't know. I don't see I mean, if Trevor Lawrence turns out to be the guy that yeah, then you wouldn't have to convince me as much but you have to convince me to Lawrence is the guy first and that's gonna be a whole other thing. Yeah, exactly. I would have to see the roster again because I like the idea of like Trevor Lawrence having like two wide receiver threats and Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas Jr. I like the idea of that but I have to see his O-line again
Starting point is 00:34:21 and I have to see that defense again, even if Travis Hunter is playing both sides All right. Well, I got the current depth chart up here right now Do you just want me to throw out your most notable players on this team? Bet you Macarie is fun. Robert Haines is all right, but I guess that's better than what it was last year So if the old line is better than last year, they could be a threat in the FC. So yeah I mean who knows maybe I, they also picked up Eric Armstead as well. Brawl. And we know they could also gear up to be a Saxonville again from that 2017 season. But coverage. Yeah, exactly. Your cornerbacks right now. Ventrell Miller, Tyson Campbell, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:08 safety's Eric Murray and Darnell Savage along with, uh, Jerry and Jones and Jordan Lewis. Darnell Savage is fine. Uh, Tyson Campbell I like, and if he's on the other side of Travis Hunter, that could be a solid secondary. I think, I think he's going to
Starting point is 00:35:24 realize, I don't know why I said Venturelle Miller is a linebacker the I don't know why the the abbreviations were screwing me up but that was weird it's okay we forgive you but um I guess in terms of other teams that were under five wins just to get some more substance in there Jets gonna need some convincing Brown same thing we talked on the Jaguars. Tuck you mentioned the Titans and CJ responded to it I the one thing that I will say about the Titans is that I'm putting them in the same boat as the Jaguars You're gonna have to do more convincing for me on that
Starting point is 00:36:08 Fair enough, but I look at that. I look at the division they have I think they overall have gotten better I put them ahead of the Jaguars. Yeah, and it's all the way Houston looked before the postseason and we were like They don't look that convincing Yeah postseason and we were like, they don't look that convincing. Yeah. And so I'm looking at that and I go, this division could be up for grabs depending on how these teams play out the way they should. I still think Houston has the upper hand because they have CJ Stroud. I think their team overall is better, but I could see Tennessee being competitive. Well, if you're saying that.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Before the playoffs, then after the playoffs, they ended up proving everyone wrong, so maybe they're doing the same thing this season. Maybe they'll do the same thing this season. I don't think they want to start off in a hole. I don't think they want to start off. No one does. Giants. They're nowhere near it. Bears, we mentioned them. Panthers, mentioned the Saints,
Starting point is 00:37:13 forget about it with that. I want to touch on the Panthers and the Niners real quick because those are teams that the other two teams that we have not mentioned that finished with six or less wins. Panthers were five and 12, Niners were six and 11. NFC West was kind of a battle last year. 49ers, CJ, what have the 49ers done? What have they done? This off season? They sat there and gotten picked apart. Exactly. I think that's all we're gonna say about the 49ers. Panthers, Bryce Young starting to pick it up a little bit. Yeah. CJ, what have they done?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Now the Panthers, most notably, they did grab old Teterrell and McMillan in the draft. I mean, you need all those big receivers You'll give the fact that they're the only ones that uh, Bryce Young could see downfield but other than that There's really nobody like super Like super insane that jumps out to me some good Under the radar signings like Tershawn Wharton at Defensive Tackle.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Oh yeah, they re-signed J.C. Horne. I did like the Trayvon Merrick signing. That was good. Bobby Brown at Defensive Tackle would pair up nicely with what's his name there? The dude they got from Auburn there. Is it Derrick? Derrick Brown. Derrick Brown, yeah. Rico Dowdell at running back, that's a choice, but I get it, I get it, I guess. And they, I mean, Brady Christensen's a good stopgap at tackle, they got the underrated Christian Roseboom
Starting point is 00:39:00 from the Rams, I mean, but you get what I'm saying, right? The Panthers, they made a lot of little tweaks there, Rostra. That's going to go a long way. I think Dave Canales can be a good head coach, but it's all contingent on Bryce Young. And while Bryce Young did turn around and put up some impressive games, it was one of those weird cases where good numbers just weren't translating into wins. And being that the NFC South is a direct mirror of their counterpart, the AFC South, and that it's a ridiculously screwy division,
Starting point is 00:39:31 no one knows what's gonna happen. Hey, I mean, it feels like it's anyone's game there, except for the Saints. Yeah. Yeah. If you were to ask me who I had when in NFC South, I'd probably go with a box again and throw Yeah, and honestly, I'd probably throw the Panthers as a potential close second. I
Starting point is 00:39:52 Choose Atlanta because they got to pass rushers that they severely needed. Yeah. Oh And I just want to point out one more thing about the Panthers other than McMillan a lot of the damage They did was the draft like they got Nick Scorton princely umma Meele and Trevor ETN was a big one safety Lathan Ransom So yeah, I even Jimmy Horn they took a fire on late in the sixth round. So I mean The on paper it looks fine. It's just now you got to put it together, you know? Yeah. I think that's a good way to wrap that up. But I do like
Starting point is 00:40:30 looking, looking at the offense, at least on paper, I like the offense, Bryce Young, Chuba Hubbard, maybe pairs well with Nico Daddle. Drafted Trevor ATN as well be a third Jonathan Brooks still on roster. But you got a wide receiver room That's got Ted McMillan, Adam Thiel and Zevier LeGette Jalen Coker Hunter Renfro, welcome back to the league. Yes But tight ends a little shaky Tommy Trembl, Jatavian Sanders. I don't mind Tommy Trembl. I think he's good
Starting point is 00:41:05 but Other than that I to Tavian Jan Sanders, I don't mind Tommy tremble things good, but Other than that I Think the Panthers offense like as you mentioned mentioned CJ if they can put it together this could be probably a fun team to watch But anything else you guys want to touch on before we go away from this topic and honestly anything else we want to discuss before we end the show tonight since that is all the scheduled content that we have.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I think I'm good. I don't want I don't even want to talk about the Browns. Yeah I mentioned before that's honestly fine we'll get at the Browns real quick just very quickly This is a team that was hampered by injuries last season a lot of other issues as well but the team that had a lot of injuries that led to this three win season and the year before They they were in the playoffs. So it's not like that they
Starting point is 00:42:10 were completely far off from being a playoff team. But doesn't look as good now. I think that's that is all I'll say about it. Plus, I wonder if they're gonna sign Nick Chubb again. Or if anyone's gonna gonna sign Nick Chubb again Or if anyone's gonna pick up Nick Chubb, I feel like some teams going to I just I Don't know who or when Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah, but Alright, well that'll do it for us here tonight. Thank you for tuning in for another Tuesday episode of the Fumarovski podcast New episode coming out on Friday at 5 Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel also have all our episodes available on Spotify Spreaker Apple podcasts Google podcast and So much more along with a high art radio Also, be sure to follow our Instagram Fummerusky underscore podcast to keep up with the pod and the latest coverage on the NFL. Otherwise, there's CJ Medeiros and Justin Tucker. I'm Chris Kostich.
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