The Fumblerooski Podcast - Who's Up Next -Ep 360 The Fumblerooski Podcast
Episode Date: May 6, 2025What does Justin Tucker's allegations do to the Ravens' reputation with personnel around the league? The Commanders and Chargers went from the basement of the NFL to the playoffs last season. Who's ne...xt in line? Chris Costich, CJ Medeiros, and Justin Tucker (our co-host) debate this and more!
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Justin Tucker officially released by the Baltimore Ravens calling it a football decision
But everybody knows that that's not necessarily the case 13 seasons with the Ravens and he's all done
teams to go from six wins or less in 10 plus or
To 10 plus wins in one season the last 10 seasons commanders did it last year, along with the Chargers. Who could be next?
This is the Full Marouski Podcast.
It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when
he needs to make the throws.
Back to back games where he has three touchdowns.
Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot.
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.
Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides
This is the Fumbaruski podcast by Powerade 18 radio in secret weapon consulting
I'm Chris Kostich with us CJ Maderos and the good Justin Tucker
and
Well, we're just gonna go right into that news really 13 seasons of being
probably the best kicker of all time, the best kicker in the world really. And he's now released
by the Ravens as of yesterday, today being May 6th, recording this at 3.49 p.m. and the NFL investigating into allegations of
improper conduct and well if you know anything about the Deshaun Watson
situation this is basically along the same lines and unfortunate of course
because Tucker was as mentioned the best kicker in the world having the longest
field goal in NFL history highest career longest field goal in NFL history,
highest career field goal percentage in NFL history, and originally signed with the Ravens
as an undrafted free agent following the 2012 NFL draft.
In a statement that the Ravens released, considering our current roster, we have made the tough
decision to release Justin Tucker.
As mentioned saying, it is a football decision.
But, pass it around the room, Tuck. Since you're the Ravens fan and sharing the Justin Tucker name,
we'll let you go first. What are your just general thoughts right now?
Well
To be honest, I'm
I'm saying that we had to let go of our kicker, but the circumstances are the circumstances
it's unfortunate that Justin Tucker finds himself in the
compromising position he finds himself in
but sucker finds himself in the compromising position he finds himself in. But he had to be let go because if you're going to draft a kicker and use draft capital,
you kind of have to get rid of the other kicker because there's no point in using draft capital
for a kicker.
You might as well just sign in and draft it at that point.
So I knew what was coming.
It was going to be eventual.
So I hope him the best of luck. I hope he's innocent,
but if not, we had to move on from him. It sucks, but it is what it is. I just realized I was muted on this. So here's the thing. Obviously, you know, he's been
released and before I get into that, I want to point out to the Cleveland Browns specifically, hey, you can release someone who's a diddler.
I'm just saying, the Ravens show that it can be done.
And now that Justin Tucker's a free agent,
I'm just putting it out there into the universe.
The Cleveland Browns have the opportunity
to do the funniest thing ever.
the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.
And I'm going to tell you this right now.
I need to make this abundantly clear. I think the Ravens made the right decision
by getting rid of them.
Justin Tucker, though the Ravens kicker, not our friend,
is probably the second best kicker, not our friend, is the probably the second best
kicker of all time. Some would say the best.
Yeah, I see you down there, Mr. Ravens fan.
Just calm down. Me personally, you will not catch me saying that old Justin
Toucher is the best kicker of all time.
Not happening. But regardless, he's was going to be a future Hall of Famer. I don't know. I mean,
he probably will be, but you know, these things can always affect that because, you know, the media
chooses who gets in and the media does not forget. They might forgive, but oh lord have mercy they do
not forget. That's why TO wasn't the first ballot Hall of Famer and I the one issue I have the Ravens doing
this isn't the fact that they did it it was their statement um we're the Ravens
considering our current roster we've made the toughs in to release Justin
Tucker it totally has something to do with the fact that he's a pervert and a
predator he it was a football decision aha a football decision. Uh-huh.
A football decision. Was it a football decision to get rid of Jerry,
or to get rid of Ray Rice as well?
Like, was that a football decision too?
I'm sure you thought it was, but I promise you it's not.
I mean, we all knew this was coming.
The writing was on the wall and they drafted that kicker.
I believe it was Tyler Loop out of the University
of Arizona. And this shouldn't shock anybody and Justin Tucker could deny the alley or
not not not you tuck obviously but uh we'll call him something else their kicker Justin
Tugger that's it he can deny the allegations as much as he wants it's it's, it's still true.
I'm sorry.
I mean, yes, you're innocent until proven guilty,
but here's the thing.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
And it's kind of like the Deshaun Watson
situation all over again,
when you have that many people coming forward and saying,
hey, maybe this guy's a bit of a pervert,
that's kind of when
you really have to take it seriously and once again a lot of these star athletes
get away with so much across really all four major American sports but hey it's
nice to see some accountability finally which is weird because the Ravens you
know weren't really big necessarily on accountability you know you had one of their greatest players ever murder someone another one of their great defensive stalwarts poured bleach on his wife
But hey Ravens baby steps baby steps. I mean you got rid of Ray Rice got rid of Justin Tucker
Maybe you can redeem yourselves one way. I mean, sorry not not you Justin Tucker Justin Toucher I meant but either way
Thank you Ravens. I'll give you a golf clap for making the right decision.
You still have one up on Cleveland.
A lot of shots at you there, Tuck.
You wanna respond?
I know we're not talking about the Patriots fan over here,
but we'll leave it alone.
We'll leave it alone.
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I am. Because we don't go to bat
for Hernandez. You still, to this
day, go to bat for Ray Lewis. So,
come on.
He's been tried and he's not been
guilty of committed murder.
Alleged, apparently.
Alleged. It's alleged.
Can't be, we can't be talking about
absolutes, CJ. That's for the Sith.
But, yeah, let's just stay with the player we're talking about. I guess.
Yeah. Anyways, I guess the last thing I would love to throw in there,
you know, they call it a football decision. Of course,
the allegations looming over his head. But I mean,
I think that when you look at the season he had last year, uh,
career worst field goal percentage, uh, this past season, I mean, I think that when you look at the season he had last year,
career worst field goal percentage this past season,
he kind of threw Baltimore bone by having such a shit season,
so that he could be cut along with all of this.
They could call it a football decision because of that,
along with him being old, potentially.
How old is Justin Tucker anyways?
I know he's in his 30s.
I'm not entirely certain.
And Chris, I do have to mention that-
35.
Oh yeah, so yeah, he's an unk.
I will tell you though, I do believe that though,
well, I don't necessarily believe
it was a pure football decision.
They definitely weren't confident in him
with the style of play that he showed during the season.
He played horrifically and this is kind of just a natural
turn for the, it's a natural outcome. I mean, his job would have been jeopardy regardless, but this just sealed it, you know?
Yeah. Especially when the story first came out, a lot of people used this and said, well, here's your reason why Tucker did so terribly in this past season
because he had this secretly looming over his head probably.
And here we are now.
When did the first story, the story first come out?
Oh, during the off season, I think.
I just don't know when.
I know it was like before.
It was when we got eliminated by the Bills and then a few days after it started to surface.
That's right.
So we're talking about two months later and now this is coming to light two, three months
later this is coming to light.
Justin Tucker, eight time All-Pro, seven time Pro Bowler and part of the NFL 2010s All-Decade
team released by the Baltimore Ravens.
Anything else you guys want to touch on regarding this?
So, Tucker, we've mentioned that there's a new kicker as well in Baltimore.
We'll touch on this.
I mean, no pun intended.
I mean, no pun intended. Geez.
But we'll get to that.
I guess, do you see him as probably being the new kicker
at that point?
Or maybe Baltimore goes to free agency market
and tries to pick up a kicker as like,
or a veteran kicker or something like that?
No, I think we're going to keep Tyler Lube because we did spend a six-round draft pick on him.
From what I've seen so far, he's got a leg, obviously, and he can kick it from like 60 yards
or 60-something yards. So he has the potential to be great. It's just a matter of the reps. And now
that Justin Tucker's not there, he'll get plenty of reps at that. So I think it's just a matter of the reps and now that Justin Tucker's not there he'll get plenty of reps at that so I think it's just a matter of the coaching he'll get and the
The camaraderie he has with this the placeholder and the snapper so as far as I'm concerned
I think he'll be just fine as long as he doesn't do anything
Unseemly, I think we'll be fine. I think he'll be good for our team because we need the kicking Yeah
imagine if
He becomes the non-predatorial
Justin Tucker
26 years of having
Some of the best kicking of all time that'd be
Kind of insane. Yeah, but the Patriots did the same with Vinatieri and Kostowski. Yeah
No, I know I I'm
with Vinatarian and Kostowski. Yeah.
No, I know.
I'm not saying it's impossible to happen, of course.
I'm just saying it'd be kind of wild
if that were to happen though.
Because it-
It'd be very nice.
Because like, obviously you mentioned the Patriots,
but who else does that really,
who else has that happened to though?
Not at that position though, but it's happened before.
Yeah. I'm more talking about that position.
Yeah, I can't name it off the top of my head, but no, it's very rare.
CJ, any thoughts on that?
Yeah, so Tyler Luke, his whole thing is that he has a cannon leg.
That's pretty much it.
He even made a 62 yarder last season.
The thing is that I don't like is that his mechanics
are a little weird where sometimes he take,
I mean, when I say mechanics, the kicking motion is fine.
It's just sometimes he takes his sweet time.
I mean, for example, he had not one,
but two kicks blocked two seasons ago.
I think he might've had one blocked last season.
And I know he has at least three career kicks blocked.
And sometimes, is that a follow the line?
Yeah, but I watched the film that was on him.
He just stopped, he waits.
And then sometimes you have a big leg. You really kind of have to charge it up follow the line. Yeah, but I watched the film that was on him. He just stopped. He waits and then
sometimes you have a big leg. You really kind of have to charge it up for lack of a better word, but you know, that's pretty much it. And the, but that can be coached out of him, right? I think
he's fine, but the one thing that really concerns me about Loop might be his personality.
I don't know if you saw us at Arizona,
he's very vocal when he's upset,
which is probably not a good thing for a kicker to do.
Hey, Mike Vanderjatt anyone?
All the Colts fans shudder when I say that name.
You mean Vander Choak?
Yeah, pretty much.
And whenever he's disappointed
with the long snapper and the holder, he makes it known.
I mean, this is literally, you can literally go to his draft profile on NFL Network and it says, and I quote,
makes it known when he's disappointed with the holder. But he has gotten into arguments, right?
And there are some times where he misses a kick and it's his fault. And whether it's the long snap or the holder or whatever, he will just like jump down someone's
throat and hopefully Harbaugh can get it out of him. But then again, if he does, yeah, if he does
have some kind of a hot temper as it were, then considering that your last kicker was Justin Tugger, then odds are that you
can deal with this is all I'm saying.
I think you'll be fine with the team, with the players surrounding him and the coaching
staff, especially when it comes to special teams, because that's John Harbaugh's thing.
That's kind of how he got his name.
I don't think you'll be that much of a problem.
Right on. I would doubt it, but yeah. Yeah, who knows? We're gonna step aside for a quick break when we come back. We're gonna get into teams to go from six wins or less to 10 plus wins
in one season. Talk about what's happened in the last 10 seasons in terms of teams that have done
that and who could be right to do it
For next season. This is the former risky podcast
It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet
But you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns
Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides
He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides
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Chris Goss is CJ Medeiros Justin Tucker
so in the last 10 seasons 21 teams have gone from six wins or less to 10 plus
in just one season. Just one season, one big turnaround. Last season it was the commanders
and the Chargers. Commanders went four and 13 in the 23 season. Pickup Jaden Daniels amongst a bunch of other talent, go 12 and 5 last season.
Chargers, 2023 abysmal, abysmal season, 5 and 12.
Justin Herbert gets hurt for most of the season.
Next season, 2024, Jim Harbaugh becomes the head coach, 10 and 7 season,
but bounced in the first round.
One of the more notable ones in the last five years,
at least, the Texans going 3 and 13 and 1, pick up CJ Stroud,
go 10 and 7, make it to the divisional round,
which they ended up losing to Tuck's Ravens.
But that's one of the more notable turnarounds,
at least in the last few seasons,
besides the commanders and the Chargers.
So looking at at least like what the Chargers did, picked up a new head coach, drafted an offensive tackle in Joe Walt, got a very good wide receiver in Lad McConkney.
Still a question on if he's going to be a suitable number one, but he had a very
good rookie season, so see how that works out looking at the commanders from going
into last season, new head coach, new quarterback, new running back and Austin
Eckler to share time with Brian Robinson.
Got a new O line Tyler Bia...
Wow.
CJ help me, help me. Biotis. Biotis. Thank you. Nick Allegretti.
Brandon Coleman to fill out the O line. Dante Fowler Jr.
and got a veteran in Bobby Wagner on defense.
This commander stuff sounds a lot
like what the Patriots just got done with
probably minus
the quarterback spot, right?
So
I've obviously kind of inferring that the Patriots might be part of that new turnaround
But tuck in CJ. What do you got? What team do you guys think?
Could be ripe for a big turnaround this next season you're gonna have a talk for me
when I look at like the landscape and which one has like the most potential to
turn it around rather quickly I kind of look to the AFC self because I think
that's one of the more easier divisions to like. And we're talking about six wins or less.
And I see the Tennessee Titans being one of the teams that could easily turn it
around and be competitive in that division.
I think 10 ones can get you the division.
I think they can be competitive with Houston now that they have a competent
quarterback and their defense doesn't have to be on the field the majority of
the time.
Because believe it or not, I thought their defense was rather good.
It's just that they were on the field all the time and
they couldn't really do much about it cuz their quarterback looks just awful.
They were able to give Cam Ward some talent.
They still have Tyler Boyd.
They just got his wide receiver from Miami.
His offensive line is better than what it was in college.
I think if given enough time, I think the Tennessee Titans can be competent enough to
win some games that they probably shouldn't. They'll probably split with the Texans, but
they can beat the Jaguars. And I believe they can beat the Colts because the Colts are the
Colts. And I think they can win 10 games, beat and finish 10 and 7, possibly win the
division or snatch up a wild card spot. I think if I looked around and I see the one
with the most potential to do it, it will be them because the Patriots, for them to
win 10 and 7, they would have to beat the Bills one of those times. And that's still
going to be a tough ask to do. But I still I think it's Tennessee right now.
CJ.
As far as the Titans go, Justin, I think you're right. But for me, my problem with the Tennessee Titans is very simple
very simple coaching. Uh if are really gonna be put to
it takes. It's very possib
up their offensive line,
the root of their problem
Stefan digs. They drafted
I mean sure they're gonna be without take Dell and Stefan digs they drafted both the receivers from Iowa State with Higgins and Noel and
on top of that they grab Christian Kirk, so I
can't really
Hey on that bit, but
Bremen with the Titans, but regardless that I don't know man. I see you're coming from
Another interesting selection would it not be the Bears? I mean,
consider that, right? The Bears, they they they went what?
Like they had like five wins last season. Six. Five and 12.
Yep. Five. Yeah. And a lot of that wasn't, I mean, sure you
can say Cade Williams onto the ball too long. Maybe they were a little thin some spots on the roster
But I would say about a solid
75 of their problems literally just boiled down to coaching matt eberfluss never should have been brought back. They brought him back for
I can't tell you why
And they regretted it. They you know canned him after that disastrous came. I mean we all remember it that was
pretty funny, but
But you know Caleb Williams, I believe will take the next step
He already has a solid team round with DJ more of Roma doons a beyond ray swift
Cole commit first round tight end Colston Loveland a beefed up offensive line which now has guys like Drew Dalvin and Joe Tooney and a defense which looks to improve.
So as a whole, yeah, I definitely think Chicago has the
ability to get it done. The only issue that I can see is the NFC North as a whole. That is a scary, scary division where,
I'm sorry, no matter how you slice it, unless everybody on the Lions and Packers get hurt,
you're probably not going to win the division. I mean, like they just they
don't have the horses to
compete with the Lions maybe
and it's a big maybe the
Packers but I don't know if
Jordan Love, you know, I mean,
hey, once Toyota Thong comes
around, you know how he is. I
don't know how it happens but
it just kind of happens and
overall, I would say yeah I
I don't see them being the
Packers and the Vikings are
probably the biggest wild card
because they made the playoffs
with Sam Darnall. They're going
to JJ McCarthy. He's he's the
big unknown. So if he turns out
to even be halfway decent,
that's still going to make the
Vikings maybe not formidable,
but make them a thorn in your side. So the Bears have the ability to get it done. It's the a word, it's unserious. You know, both their GM and their head coach are on the hot seat. Tua can't stay healthy. In
fact, you wanted them to go QB in round one. I mean, you're watching at B-Dub, you said they should have taken
Shador because, you know, Tua can't stay healthy. It's not a take I agree with, but I understand where you're
coming from. And the Jets, they are the Jets. Meanwhile, the Patriots,
you have a competent head coach in Mike Raible, a proven offensive coordinator in Josh McDaniels,
a really good or should be a good defensive coordinator in Terrell Williams. And look
at who they brought in. Milton Williams, Harold Landry, Carlton Davis, Stephon Diggs, and Morgan Moses in free agency,
along with other smaller additions like Robert
Spillane and Mack Hollins.
That's going to make for some great team building there.
And they crushed the draft.
They had one of, if not the best draft,
drafting guys like Will Campbell, Trevion Henderson,
Jared Wilson, and Kyle Williams to boot, you know, for the offense.
And he even had some good late round defensive gems like Joshua Farmer and Braden Swinson.
And of course, a lot of this for New England, forget the division, it's gonna hinge on Drake May.
Now last season Drake May had, at least on paper,
the worst offensive line in the league.
Now some of that was because of injuries,
but some of that was just because, you know,
they just didn't address it well.
I mean, we all remember that line.
You had a tackle, Viderian Lowe and Demontre Jacobs,
Layden Robinson, and at some points, Lester Cotton at guard,
whenever onwenu
couldn't start but Anwenu was there he was good and then Ben Brown at center.
Outside of Anwenu you're gonna have like four new starters on that line well not
new because like you know Colestrange coming back from injury. Now at tackle
you have Morgan Moses and Will Campbell, Anwenu is still guard, Colestrange coming
back at guard and either have Garrett Bradbury or Jared Wilson at center.
So their whole thing is that they need to protect Drake May, and I think they did, kind of like what I said with the Bears,
where it's now all on Caleb Williams. Same things with New England. It's all on Drake May now.
So while I respect your Titans take, I do think it's the Bears or New England or the Patriots.
They have the best odds, I think,
to jump from single-digit wins to at least 10.
Also, for what it's worth,
I don't know off the top of my head,
but the Patriots do have the second easiest schedule in the league next season.
That's what I do that I think is really important that we really need to talk about, you know, for all these teams.
Because when you look at the Patriots, especially last few seasons, right, Chris, you and I both know the Patriots the
the
the
the bad, but especially last season where you had arguably the hardest schedule in the league to now it lightens up a bit and even
Like three seasons ago. They had a top ten hardest schedule
So finally schedule makers are kind of a break the Titans on the other hand to Tuck's credit
They do have the eighth easiest schedule
So it's very possible that they could play well
So it's very possible that they could play well, but I am kind of shooting myself the foot here
with my Bears take because the Bears have the 26th
easiest schedule in the league,
or seventh hardest as it were.
So yeah, that might make things a little tougher.
Then again, for the Bears,
a lot of it just might be the division so
Hey for I mean, maybe they'll prove me wrong, but the schedule is just not looking good
I mean at least the Patriots and the Titans have their
Schedule to back them. I mean to give them some kind of backing. So hey thumbs up for them
Oh, by the way in case you were wondering
The New York Giants despite the fact they objectively terrible team, have the hardest schedule this year.
It's not important, just a fun fact.
I don't think any of us were really throwing the Giants out there.
No, no, no, no. It's just a fun fact. They have the hardest schedule, since we're wondering.
I'm gonna say it circles back to my point about how it sucks when your team's already bad
And then you have like a really hard schedule kind of like New England last year where they had like I think the hardest
Or the second hardest and it's like well damn
Nothing you can do about it. Mm-hmm
Another team I'll throw out there on the AFC West the Raiders
new head coach, veteran quarterback in Geno Smith,
that head coach being Pete Carroll. You know how those two work together when they're in
Seattle. Up the O-line a little bit by grabbing Alex Gappa. Expanded on the defense, Jeremy
Chin, Alan Roberts, Eric Stokes. Let's fix up the run game while we're at it.
Let's draft Assen-Ginti, 6 overall.
Now, I don't know if I'm just getting a whiff of the drug of Pete Carroll.
Maybe I'm getting a whiff of the drug of the quarterback, Geno Smith.
But maybe that this could be a year that the Raiders are gonna be out to
compete a little bit more stability right now especially with Pete Carroll
at the helm a little bit more stability seems like you're treading towards the
right direction especially with the Chiefs seemingly being very vulnerable
we don't really know what's gonna,
if the Chargers gonna keep going on this upward trajectory,
but seeing with the history of Jim Harbaugh,
it usually keeps going up.
Maybe the Raiders are up there competing for the AFC West title.
Maybe being a close second, maybe being a wildcard team.
I mean, it's very possible.
The only issue with the Raiders,
like I said, going back to strength of schedules,
that they're around the middle of the pack
in terms of that.
Sorry, there's a Nat over here.
But yeah, no, I do think you have a good point.
And the only problem is once again,
good Lord, they just have a really nasty,
just unforgiving schedule.
I mean, not unforgiving schedule, a division.
You know?
I mean, the Chiefs are, I mean, as long as they have
the Holmes, there's still going to be a threat,
I'd imagine.
And then of course, you've got the Broncos
who are coming off a playoff birth and
to make matters worse, you know, you got the
Jim Harbaugh led Chargers, so
It's gonna be tough. I mean you look at the Broncos and you think the same thing as the Chargers almost like
You're not really sure if they're gonna keep on this upward trajectory going into year two of this
They're not really sure if they're going to keep on this upward trajectory going into year two of this or well for Sean Payne it's year three but in terms of going to the playoffs
and back to back years keeping up with that upward trajectory.
Yeah.
And I also want to point out another thing.
I would say that the majority of the teams that end up going from six wins or less to 10 plus in one season,
I would say most of the 21 teams in the last decade that have done this,
new head coach, that was one of the differences.
They ended up getting a new head coach going into that year that they go up or
go over 10 wins.
Now there's more to it than that of
course but I think the besides the Titans the Patriots the Bears the Raiders
the three teams that we threw out there we also mentioned the Jaguars another
team that picked up a new head coach we could we're not gonna throw out the
Saints but that's another team that got a new head coach.
That's just a trend that I kind of saw when I was looking through the list.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I think you make some good points there.
I mean, a good head coach really does change everything, you know, yeah
But um
I guess to keeping on the jaguars part though real quick new head coach Liam Cohen
Patrick mccary robber hainsey to
Fix your line a little bit. And of course the big one of the big stories in on draft day
Was uh the jaguars swapping picks with the Browns
Moving up to number two and drafting Travis Hunter
Seemingly like he might is gonna play both ways
but I
Still think that the Jaguars are probably another year or two from
really being considered
Playoff contender, but I think tuck
Mentioned this right before he made his point was how the AFC South both the AFC South and then FC South are kind of
a shitstorm and anything can really happen and
You could probably flip a coin and there's your division winner.
Yeah.
Yeah. I do think you make a convincing argument. It's just...
I'm not saying that Jaguar is winning.
No, no, no. I didn't say you weren't. I just... It's all going to be Trevor Lawrence.
It's all exclusively on Trevor Lawrence. It's all exclusively on Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I feel like you'd have to convince me more that the Jaguars
are going to be one of those teams to go over 10 wins.
Yeah, I just I don't know. I don't see I mean, if Trevor
Lawrence turns out to be the guy that yeah, then you wouldn't
have to convince me as much but you have to convince me to
Lawrence is the guy first and that's gonna be a whole
other thing. Yeah, exactly. I would have to see the roster again because I like the idea of like Trevor Lawrence having like
two wide receiver threats and Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas Jr. I like the idea of that but I have to see his O-line again
and I have to see that defense again, even if Travis Hunter is playing both sides
All right. Well, I got the current depth chart up here right now Do you just want me to throw out your most notable players on this team?
Bet you Macarie is fun. Robert Haines is all right, but I guess that's better than what it was last year
So if the old line is better than last year, they could be a threat in the FC. So yeah
I mean who knows maybe I, they also picked up Eric
Armstead as well. Brawl. And we know they could also gear up to be a Saxonville again from that 2017 season. But
coverage. Yeah, exactly. Your cornerbacks right now. Ventrell
Miller, Tyson Campbell, uh,
safety's Eric Murray and Darnell
Savage along with, uh, Jerry and
Jones and Jordan Lewis. Darnell
Savage is fine. Uh, Tyson
Campbell I like, and if he's on
the other side of Travis Hunter,
that could be a solid secondary.
I think, I think he's going to
realize, I don't know why I said Venturelle Miller is a linebacker the I don't know why the the
abbreviations were screwing me up but that was weird it's okay we forgive you but um
I guess in terms of other teams that were under five wins just to get some more
substance in there Jets gonna need some convincing Brown same thing we talked
on the Jaguars. Tuck you mentioned the Titans and CJ responded to it I the one
thing that I will say about the Titans is that I'm putting them in the same boat
as the Jaguars
You're gonna have to do more convincing for me on that
Fair enough, but I look at that. I look at the division they have I think they overall have gotten better
I put them ahead of the Jaguars. Yeah, and it's all the way Houston looked before the postseason and we were like
They don't look that convincing
Yeah postseason and we were like, they don't look that convincing. Yeah. And so I'm looking at that and I go, this division could be up for grabs depending on
how these teams play out the way they should.
I still think Houston has the upper hand because they have CJ Stroud.
I think their team overall is better, but I could see Tennessee being competitive.
Well, if you're saying that.
Before the playoffs, then after the playoffs,
they ended up proving everyone wrong,
so maybe they're doing the same thing this season.
Maybe they'll do the same thing this season.
I don't think they want to start off in a hole.
I don't think they want to start off.
No one does.
Giants. They're nowhere near it. Bears, we mentioned them. Panthers, mentioned the Saints,
forget about it with that. I want to touch on the Panthers and the Niners real quick
because those are teams that the other two teams that we have not mentioned that finished with six or less wins. Panthers
were five and 12, Niners were six and 11. NFC West was kind of a battle last year. 49ers,
CJ, what have the 49ers done? What have they done?
This off season? They sat there and gotten picked apart.
Exactly. I think that's all we're gonna say about the 49ers.
Panthers, Bryce Young starting to pick it up a little bit.
Yeah. CJ, what have they done?
Now the Panthers, most notably,
they did grab old Teterrell and McMillan in the draft.
I mean, you need all those big receivers
You'll give the fact that they're the only ones that uh, Bryce Young could see downfield
but other than that
There's really nobody like super
Like super insane that jumps out to me some good
Under the radar signings like Tershawn Wharton at Defensive Tackle.
Oh yeah, they re-signed J.C. Horne. I did like the Trayvon Merrick signing. That was good.
Bobby Brown at Defensive Tackle would pair up nicely with what's his name there?
The dude they got from Auburn there. Is it Derrick?
Derrick Brown.
Derrick Brown, yeah.
Rico Dowdell at running back, that's a choice, but I get it, I get it, I guess.
And they, I mean, Brady Christensen's a good stopgap
at tackle, they got the underrated Christian Roseboom
from the Rams, I mean, but you get what I'm saying, right?
The Panthers, they made a lot of little
tweaks there, Rostra. That's going to go a long way. I think Dave Canales can be a good head coach,
but it's all contingent on Bryce Young. And while Bryce Young did turn around and put up some
impressive games, it was one of those weird cases where good numbers just weren't translating into
wins. And being that the NFC South is a direct mirror
of their counterpart, the AFC South,
and that it's a ridiculously screwy division,
no one knows what's gonna happen.
Hey, I mean, it feels like it's anyone's game there,
except for the Saints.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you were to ask me who I had when in NFC South,
I'd probably go with a box again and throw
Yeah, and honestly, I'd probably throw the Panthers as a potential close second. I
Choose Atlanta because they got to pass rushers that they severely needed. Yeah. Oh
And I just want to point out one more thing about the Panthers other than McMillan a lot of the damage
They did was the draft like they got
Nick
Scorton princely umma Meele and Trevor ETN was a big one safety Lathan Ransom
So yeah, I even Jimmy Horn they took a fire on late in the sixth round. So I mean
The on paper it looks fine. It's just now you got to put it together, you know?
Yeah. I think that's a good way to wrap that up. But I do like
looking, looking at the offense, at least on paper, I like the
offense, Bryce Young, Chuba Hubbard, maybe pairs well with
Nico Daddle. Drafted Trevor ATN as well be a third Jonathan
Brooks still on roster. But you got a wide receiver room
That's got Ted McMillan, Adam Thiel and Zevier LeGette
Jalen Coker
Hunter Renfro, welcome back to the league. Yes
But tight ends a little shaky Tommy Trembl, Jatavian Sanders. I don't mind Tommy Trembl. I think he's good
but Other than that I to Tavian Jan Sanders, I don't mind Tommy tremble things good, but
Other than that I
Think the Panthers offense like as you mentioned mentioned CJ if they can put it together this could be
probably a fun team to watch
But anything else you guys want to touch on
before we go away from this topic and honestly anything else
we want to discuss before we end the show tonight since that is all the scheduled content
that we have.
I think I'm good.
I don't want I don't even want to talk about the Browns.
Yeah I mentioned before that's honestly fine we'll get at the Browns real quick just very quickly
This is a team that was hampered by injuries
last season a lot of other issues as well
but the team that had a lot of injuries that led to this three win season and
the year before They they were in the
playoffs. So it's not like that they
were completely far off from being a
playoff team. But doesn't look as good
now. I think that's that is all I'll
say about it. Plus, I wonder if they're
gonna sign Nick Chubb again. Or if anyone's gonna gonna sign Nick Chubb again
Or if anyone's gonna pick up Nick Chubb, I feel like some teams going to I just I
Don't know who or when
Yeah
Yeah, but
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