The Fumblerooski Podcast - You're Fooling No One -Ep 401 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

On today’s episode, the Rams take firm control of the NFC West, and the Eagles win another muckfest this week vs the Lions. On the AFC side of things, the Bills win in a shootout with the Bucs, Josh Allen with 6 TDs but maybe not passing the eye test? Are the Bucs in trouble? Broncos Win in another Gutsy game this time vs the Chiefs. Can KC still make the playoffs? Chris Costich, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more, including a recap of Monday Night Football and Week 11 Top 3 Bottom 3!

On today's episode of the Fumble Ruski podcast, Ruski Game of the Week saw the Rams take control of the NFC West. Sam Darnold throws four interceptions. The Eagles defense does it again. Basically gets the win for the Eagles team themselves, shutting down the Lions at home 16 to 9. Bills win a shootout against the Bucks, 44, 32. Josh Allen getting six touchdowns and Broncos with the win against the Chiefs

22 to 19. All that more, this is Fulmuriski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws, back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.

Welcome to the Fulmbruski podcast by Power 8018 Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. He's C.J. Medeiros. He's Justin Tucker. We had Adam right here in the first five seconds of the show. We lost him. And now he's back in the studio. But he's on usually the producer. He's on the show with us today. And now he's back.

How are you doing? Good. Just wondering why you left so abruptly. That's all. Yeah, I'm having connections. Yeah, I definitely see it right now. But we're going to head into Ruski Game of the week. Yeah, we can hear you.

But you can definitely tell the connections a little off. Cool. All right. Rusky Game of the Week. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Okay. Rusky Game of the Week, Rams and Seahawks. This was a game that saw no sacks.

No sacks in this one. The Rams gutted it out at the ends, and really the difference here was Sam Darnold throwing four interceptions. Saw a bad Sam Darnold game. Saw a bad one. And unfortunately, you know, this is, we'll call the third big game that he's had since joining the Vikings last season. That he's third bad game and a big game that he's had. So not good for that. Matt Stafford had an all right day, two touchdowns, 130 yards.

This was a bit of a weird one, Kyron Williams, 91 yards and a touchdown. It was a game where the Seahawks had possession majority of the time, but like I said, it was the four interceptions that Sam Donald had that was the main difference. We'll go around the table here. CJ, your thoughts on this one, you know, Rams taking control of the NFC West. Now with the tiebreaker against the Seahawks, what do you make of the scenario that we have that hand here? Well, well, well, it looks like Sam Darnold once again is seeing ghosts.

This is so eerily similar to what happens with the Vikings, especially at the end of the season, you know, where he's playing his heart out. They're growing balls to the wall. And then when they need him most, he completely collapses, be in that final game against the Lions or be it in the playoffs. This time it came a little early. I don't know what it's going to take. I really don't understand.

Don't get me wrong, despite the fact he had four picks, they were still in the game. He was still getting the ball to JSA. was he not i mean he's still you know he was still like solid enough and you saw how their linebacker ernest jones basically said oh if you think he's the problem will eff you sorry ernest jones i just think throwing four interceptions is a bit of a problem f you two you journeyman linebacker so overall this is a darnal thing he plays better i do think they win they kept it close i mean Chris, you said it yourself, they gutted it out.

So, you know, but yeah, this does, I won't call them, I won't put them on fraud watch right now, but I do think that I'm less confident in them, I'll just say. Yeah, I mean, right off the beginning of the game, they had a huge chance to capitalize as well. Rams turned it over on downs on their first drive, and then first possession, three plays in for Sam Darnold. He throws an interception.

So that would have been a, that could have been a big difference right there. Tuck, your thoughts. I thought solid overall game for the Rams had to gut it out, but thankfully they were able to win. The Seahawks still had a chance, but that 60-plus-yard field goal had no shot of being made. I thought Sam Donald played his worst game outside of that Monday night game against the Patriots in 2019.

I think this was by far his first game, four interceptions or four interceptions. JSM once again proving he's a top five wide receiver, but they had their chances. They didn't have as many turnovers as they did. I think they're the ones that got this out, but turnovers were a killer. The Rams did just enough to scrape by. Matthew Stafford was good enough. I wouldn't say he was like good or great.

I think he was good enough to get this win. and the Rams once again move on to 8 and 2 or 9 in 2. 8 and 2. 8 and 2 and at top of their division. Adam. Yeah, listen, Sam Darnold has had to play. There are three games that I look at in the last calendar year that I say, when it comes to Sam Arnold. Week 18 against Detroit got blown out.

and Darnel looked terrible. The following week, Wild Card Weekend, against the Rams, looked terrible as well, one and done despite a 14-win season. Now we're looking at this game, another game that you must win, a big game for the division, four interceptions. I'm seeing a pattern here, and this isn't just Peyton Manning being a choker in the playoffs, this is also happening in the regular season as well.

At least Peyton Manning won some big regular season games. And yeah, he did win some Super Bowls. But with Sam Darnold, it's just, he has fraud written all over him. And I respect the amount of improvement that we've seen from him the past couple of years. It's clear that with a good situation you can win with him, you can't win because of him. and he can also be a detriment in big games. It's amazing how he falls off a cliff with some of the best weapons you've ever seen.

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, T.J. Hawkinson, Jackson Smith & Jigba, Rahit Shaheed now, Cooper Cup. All of these players you have at your disposal. And a really good offensive line, good coaching. Everything works for you. And you still suck? There's something wrong there.

I can't take Sam Donald seriously until he wins a big playoff game or just wins a big regular season game for that matter Honestly, Adam, I know we had this big debate last night about it and you know, I'll agree with you in the sense, you know, it's there. It is there. I will say that.

And I'll also say that they have won games because of them. But when you look at those games, there are games against teams that they should be winning. Like, I'll even look at the schedule here. The Buccaneers, team over 500, lost by three. And San Donald had a really good game in that game, and it came down to an unlucky pick. 49ers, week one, they lose in a weird one, 17 and 13.

And then obviously Sunday, they lose by two against the Rams where he puts up four interceptions. Yeah, and look, they, half of, I will acknowledge, half of winning in football is stacking wins against teams you should be beating, like bad teams. But the other half is still beating the good teams in the regular season, and you also have to win in the postseason. He's done neither of those things. So he's really only halfway there, which is, it's better than where he was with the jets and the Panthers, but there's still a lot of work that needs to be done. And again, I can respect

to the fact that he's winning games. against teams that he should be beating. But you still need to go the rest of the way in order to earn the full respect of the rest of the league. Because it's such a glaring issue here. And we're seeing it time and time again. For sure. Just a quick look at the playoff look right now in terms of,

actually, we'll take a look at it when we get done, talk about Eagles lines. Do we have anything else we want to touch on for a, This game? Not really anything else. All right. Let's move on. We're going to step aside when we come back.

Sunday night football. Eagles, another weird one offensively, but the defense shows out yet again. This is the Fulmer'ske podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.

Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose. scenario for both sides. Back here for the Fumbaruski podcast, Adam Wright, Justin Tucker, C.J. Maderos. Sunday night football, Eagles defense mucking up the Lions offense, 16 to 9. Another weird game that the Eagles are in, of course, last week, Monday night football.

They only put up 10 points or whatever it was against the Packers. the game that I kind of wished would have just been a zero-zero tie. But in this case, this was, I would honestly say more of an entertaining game. But, you know, this was, like I said, dominated by the Eagles defense. Jared Goff and the Lions offense did not look very good. Outdoors in the cold, bad weather. And like, to be honest, Detroit doesn't actually do that bad, especially when they go up against, like, the Packers and the Packers and the Bears

last few seasons in the cold. So this was definitely an odd one, but, you know, they, they were feeling the effects of Lincoln Financial last night. In terms of some of the performers, I mean, all right, I don't know. I just don't know what to make a jail on Hertz anymore. I just don't. Like, every time I want to say he's a bad quarterback, I have to be like, well, he's also a Super Bowl MVP, but then I also see him make some of these throws, and it's like,

I don't know what to make of anything anymore. Like, this offense should be good, but it just isn't. It's in, like, the weirdest of lulls every single time. Also, of course, final drive of the game, AJ Brown gets away with a push-off, bullshit. This is why NFL fans get mad with referees. It's inconsistency. It's terrible. Makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

Stefan Diggs was called for much less. It's just terrible. Let's go reverse around the table, Adam. This is more of, yeah. You can respond to Jalen Hertz. You can respond to anything I said. You can go off on your own thing. What do you make of this ball game?

Yeah, look, I think the Eagles are a very sustainable force when it comes to winning games. It may not look pretty this season, but they're winning games. They win based off defense, a good offensive line, a run game that takes up all of the time as far as time of possession goes. My biggest takeaway was actually on the Lions. They went for it on fourth down five times. And there needs to be a point where there needs to be a t-shirt that is made where you just, it just says straight up. take the points take the freaking points this it this they'd be in the super bowl right now they'd have been in the super bowl in two thousand twenty three it's unbelievable how it just keeps on

coming out the exact same way i like a little aggression but dan campbell goes way way over the top just take the points especially against a good eagles team like this you need all of the points that you can get, especially in low-scoring rock fights like this. Good God. That's all. That's my takeaway. The lions, they still haven't learned their lesson. I fear that they never will before their Super Bowl window officially closes.

I want to respond to that, actually. I think a big reason why they're going for it so many times. I don't know if you saw pregame. or the video pregame everything was it was a windy windy day uh last night it was a very windy night so and they were showing pregame of the kickers kicking like for the long field goals and whatnot and everything like tuck just made the motion everything was veering it was taking a hard right a hard left like you still got to do it you just have to take the points how can you take the points when it's so unguaranteed though that you're even going to get when you're better chance at that point with the weather is going for it on fourth down and some of these are like some of these as well the first few were right at midfield so you're pointing it away obviously a field position and you're better off just going for it on fourth down at that point i will agree that yeah in any other case you should be kicking a field goal but i think when you have weather

in play, you've got to take your chances at that. I don't give Dan Campbell the benefit of the doubt at this point. This has been a trend for his entire coaching career here in Detroit. He continues to do it. He keeps doing it. And I understand it's windy, but I still think you have to go for it there. Just take the field goal. It's take the points.

tuck uh i guess congratulations to the eagles for getting the job done unconvincingly as it was uh just i think that's first and foremost as far as the a j brown pass interference stuff is i'm like look ruckusin did not cause pass interference that should not have been a first down it shouldn't have been a flag but again i digress all no jerigov couldn't get anything going on night. He had passes and completed, passes bedded at the line of scrimmage. Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter was basically having their way with that old line that they have, and they just could not be stopped. Quinn, you know, Mitchell had a good game. I think all in all,

it was either Jemir Gibbs or nothing, and outside of that 42-yard run that he had, it was mostly nothing. The Eagles weren't giving them many things to deal with. I think the only other time where I saw, like, a huge chunk play was that third down, completion to James and Williams for like for a first down. I can't remember how many yards. But outside of that, it was tough going for Detroit. And I don't think it's because they're playing out in the cold. They abused us in Baltimore. So I don't think it's like cold weather. That's the issue. I think sometimes they'll have lapses like this. I think they're good enough to be major contenders, but sometimes they'll have games like this where it's like, ah, like Jared

golf will have games like, eh, you wish it could be. better, but you understand the circumstances. Do I wish they always didn't go for it on fourth down? Yes, but I give it a bit of a pass considering the weather conditions outside. I'm not going to, I'm not going to say Adam's wrong for feeling the way that he feels, but I'm not going to say Dan Campbell's wrong for feeling like he should always go for it on and fourth down based on the weather conditions. That's all.

C.J., your take, and then I'm going to give you the scenarios of these fourth downs. Dan Campbell. What an enigma, what a weird, weird guy. There's something to be said for having some guts, right? But you can't just be hyper aggressive every single play. Like you can't. I more so side with Adam that he's just, he hasn't learned. That's the thing, right? We can talk about situational awareness. Chris, even last night, you said that field goal in that wind, in that weather was going to be tough. I think both points have merit. I do.

That was, that field goal was going to be a bitch to make regardless. It was a great field goal, make, too. Banged. a cold, like that, that was going to be a tuffy, you know, but we all knew that. But for me, it's less about that and more about the fact that Campbell refuses to learn. And I love Dan Campbell, you know, love a good rah-rah coach, a guy can get up in your face, you know, and demand everything from you, but still pick you up when you're down. But he's kind of becoming a bit of a hammerhead.

that's something that I view him as. He's a hammerhead. Forget situational awareness. He doesn't learn. That's what it comes away from. So I think there was no, really no right way to go about this. I personally am leaning towards field goal because, you know, if you, look, if you miss it, at least you could say, hey, you know, like we try, but a fourth down,

that just looks so much worse. It's about optics. And then, of course, you have to leave the game in the hands of the reps. And we all know that's one of the Cardinals sends a sports. You can't do that. And that's how you get hit with, I heard a term a tiki-tack PI call. No, that wasn't a weak call. That wasn't a tic-a-tack.

It wasn't a could-go either way. That was a phantom call. That was not PI. It was like, oh, but there was hand fighting. One, yes, there was. It was going both ways. Two, Jalen Hertz sailed bat pass. The ball wasn't catchable.

Rule book says, clear as day. When the ball's not catchable, that's not PI. But it doesn't matter because you can't leave the game in the hands of the refs. All in all, this was, I don't care it was a rock fight. This was a winnable game. And you could argue Philly win. I'd argue the Lions loss. And Lions, I'm sorry.

Campbell, I love you. Amon Ra, I love you. Hutchinson, I love. I love you. Your ass is on fraud watch. You're your third in your division right now. That's an excusable. Yeah. Out of the playoffs, I'm pretty sure right now, too. I'll take Garner at the playoff picture. Chris and Adam, you go back and forth.

Yeah. So let me list off these fourth down, these turnover on downs for you. First one was 1307 and the second, fourth and one from the Detroit 48. It was Jemir Gibbs right now. Huh? They'd be eighth right now. Just look at it. They are. Okay.

so right on the outside um so this play uh followed a third and one where Gibbs ran to the right side also got stuffed uh and i remember this play very vividly they were trying to go no huddle and they ended up taking too long to snap the ball it was a shit show um so that that was a bad one uh next one was on their next drive fourth and two from the detroit 43 uh that was their fake punt That was when they did a fake punt. Third quarter, first drive. Fourth and five from the Philly, 32. And this was an incomplete pass to Jameson Williams.

You could argue, you know, you're in range where maybe the wind isn't going to take much of effect. That's a 47-yarder. I can give you that one. I can give you that one, Adam. um next one fourth and goal from the three um i'm going forward on that too i'm forgetting did any of those time because at that point you're giving them fail if it's that deep if it's around the 40 so yard line around that area in the 40s you're giving the other team good field position

I'm forgetting, did one of those result in points for the Eagles? The one that was a fake pun resulted in a field goal. Yeah. So that's another problem. If you go for it around that area, you are running the risk, especially if it's a fake punt, those are hard to convert around that area. If you give them favorable position, this is a. rock fight any points are going to help in any sort of field position also helps i'm also looking

at i'm completely i completely forgot about the the play calling that they made but one of them they called a pass play on a fourth and three i'm sorry on a short on a short pat on a short play you need to run it not all the time running play no not all the short ones i you need to run fourth and three you can fuck around with a short pass You have Jemir Gibbs back there. Run the ball. On fourth and three? Yeah.

That's more of a day of a month. I don't know. Fourth and three is a lot longer than you think, Adam. It depends on the type of personnel you got. I could see them passing on fourth and three. I, like with a quickout with Amon Ross St. Brown. I can see that because they did that to us in Baltimore. I can see that.

You could hit a tight end in the fly. You could probably hit Gibbs out of the backfield, too. but if it was fourth and one, I'd say, yeah, fourth and three goes up in the air, for me at least. Yeah, fourth and three, fourth and four is when we're in passing territory, I feel like. Yeah, look, I'm at, I'm at the point where I just don't trust Dan Campbell with these fourth down plays. I think he just gets way too aggressive. I think the dude's jacked up on his caffeine on what, he gets, what, 1,200 milligrams of caffeine before breakfast. I just, dude, I don't trust. I don't trust you with that.

I just don't. We're just going to throw this motherfucker wherever we wanted to go. I don't. I don't trust Dan Campbell with these. I just don't. I'll go a step further with you, Adam. So he took over play calling duties last week against Washington just to, like, change things up. And obviously, that was the week to do it if you wanted to do that.

And they did so, put up 40 against Washington. Was he calling the plays this? week against Philly. I know Seriani took overplay calling duties for Philly, but was Campbell also doing it as well? Does anyone know? I believe so. I can't tell you with

100% uncertainty. Yeah. I think we've done this topic to death, though. We should probably move on. Okay, Adam. Okay. I agree, though. But anything else around the table real quick? No, I'm good. No, not really.

All right. Step aside for another quick break. Broncos Chiefs, NFC West. Boy, Broncos, well, seems that they are pulling ahead, to say the least. This is the Fulmaruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet,

but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or six. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fulmarisky podcast. Broncos got out a win against the Chiefs 22 to 19. Boy, I, Bo Nex is another one where it's like I kind of put in the same feeling as Geelen Hertz where it's like, boy, I want to say Bo Nex is a bad quarterback.

But then he guts out these types of wins in the fourth. And he did it against Philly earlier this year, too. Gut like guts out these masterful fourth quarter performances. And it's like, I don't know what to think anymore. I just don't know what to think. He plays terribly against Vegas. And he puts up 300 and gets a huge win against the Chiefs. We'll get to the Chiefs in a moment.

but, boy, Broncos now at the number one in the entirety of the AFC, along with the fact that the chargers are falling apart. Lord knows what's going to happen with the Chiefs, the rest of the season. This is the Broncos division to lose at this rate. They need to completely fall apart for this to happen. Boy, you know, some of us may think that it may come sooner than later. The falling apart, that is. Tuck, let's start with you. What do you think of the Broncos so far?

Are they about to fall apart, or is this team going to start to absolutely really explode and pull away with the division? I don't think they'll explode, but I think they'll hands down win the division at this rate. I think the win against the Chiefs makes it easier for them to pull ahead and take that dominant, like, stance. This is our division. is in this season with that one. They're nine and two in the top, not only the AFC West,

but in the AFC entirety. So congrats to them. But my thing about the Broncos is, which team are they? Are they the team that they beat the Kansas City Chiefs like this? Or are they the team that looked abysmal against the Las Vegas Raiders? I don't know which team they are,

and it confuses the hell out of me. In one point, they will look like a dominant team where we're like, look at what they did against Dallas this is what I expect from them and then in another game against the Jets they look god awful on offense I don't know what I am getting from Bo Nix half the time the perfect example is the game against the Giants they are down 19 to nothing heading into the fourth quarter then all of a sudden the Broncos not only come back they win the game

scoring all of their points in the fourth quarter that is the typical Bo Nix experience I don't know if I'm getting the franchise quarterback he is capable of being or the potential bust. I don't know what I am getting half the time, and that's what scares me with the Broncos. I'm not saying all of it his fault. He doesn't have a consistent running in because JK Dobbins can't stay healthy. That's just the fact of the matter. But outside of that, I look at this team, and it's like, I see the potential in how they can make noise in the AFC particularly, because everyone else in their division looks a mess right now,

including the chiefs, but they'll have moments where they're supposed to, like, be dominant, and they just look, ugh. So I don't know how I feel about the Broncos. I think they're going to win the division. I think they could even make the AFC championship game. But outside of that, I'm not convinced they'll win the AFC. I still got the Colts. I still have the Patriots ahead of them as far as, like, overall teams.

But it's like they could be there, but they'll have games like the Raiders. So it's like, I think they're the third best team in the AFC right now. C.J. Yeah, Bo Nix is another one where he's hard to decipher. But in the grand calculus of quarterbacks, if you average it out, I wouldn't call him top five, not by a long shot. I'd say he's a solid tier two quarterback, where I'm not, at least this season, I'm not putting him in the upper echelon, you know, with guys like Matt,

Stafford, Josh Allen, Drake May, maybe not even Patrick Mahomes, who statistically is pretty good as well. But as for the team as a whole, good God, that defense is terrifying. You know, Jonathan Cooper, Nick Benito, Riley Moss, who could forget rain defense player of the year, Patrick Surtan, defense travels, and that is what I think the Broncos key success is. Adam said this before the show. You ought to remember, Denver Broncos I'll hit on it. Huh? I'll hit on it. Yeah, cool, except I'm talking right now. But yeah, long story short, Broncos won a Super Bowl with a defense, you may remember.

But yeah, I'll let you expand on it. And this is weird for me. I mean, I understand, but on the other hand, Bo Nix is just wildly inconsistent. It'd be one thing if he was just like a tier two quarterback and just stayed there. But I've said this before, the Broncos are seem to be medically encased. of playing an entire football game. They'll just be flat, then they'll be really good.

Like I said, on a good day, you're getting a half from them, bad day, or getting the quarter. And even if they're grinding out wins, is that sustainable? What's going to happen in the playoffs? Because you've got to remember, the Denver defense was an elite unit last year,

and Buffalo bent them over and spank them on live TV. I mean, granted, I think they're better than that, but still, the regular season's one thing. How many regular season juggernauts have we seen get down in the wild card round? We've seen that a lot. But right now, look, there's still first the division. Denver's a horrific place to play for an opposing team. I mean, hell, just ask Kansas City.

So it's one of those things where I've said this in past weeks, and I'll have to state it again, they're real until they're not. And as for Kansas City, forget what we said about Detroit, how they're on the outside looking in. Chiefs aren't eight. They're nine. the Texans are above them because I think they have a better divisional record. The Chiefs don't even have tiebreaker with the Jags who are a game better. The Chargers, even though they're

actively falling apart due to injuries, they're still seven and four. Buffalo beat them. The Steelers are still better. You know, the Colts are up there and then, you know, Broncos, New England. So for Kansas City, when we look at the odds, right, this is what I'll end on. they went from like a 78% chance to make the playoffs to a 51. They're essentially a coin flip. I lean more so that they'll get in.

You know, you can never count out. Mahomes kind of like Brady, you know, where you can never like count it out, you know, count in a late season rally. But this looks bad.

Kansas City looks old. They have no running game. Their defense is sluggish. Yeah, just I, I am no longer confident in the Chiefs. And the fact that going into this week, they were Super Bowl favorites,

is assonine. And you cannot treat them that way anymore. You want to be Super Bowl favorites. You've got to earn it. They have not earned it this season. The statistic that I actually saw was that they have a 30% chance to make the playoffs. And now they only have a 1% chance to win the division. For playoffs, I'm looking at NFL network, dude.

I'm looking at Playoffstatus.com. I'm taking it. bit, but. Yeah. Adam. All right. I've seen a lot of fans of AFC teams hate watching the chiefs saying, I want the chiefs to lose.

We need them out of the playoffs. This is going to be fun to watch the chiefs suck. And I'll admit, I had a lot of fun watching them, watching Patrick Mahomes struggle. His once great deep ball looks terrible now. A lot of it has to do with, you know, the targets that he. has. He really doesn't have much. The best he has is an aging Travis Kelsey and Rishi Rice, who I have my questions of whether or not he's a one or not. But let me tell, let me just get, let me gauge with you just the past Patriots dynasty and whether or not you should have

the road to the Super Bowl go through Denver. The Patriots from their dynasty, going back to 2001, because that's when Brady first started football games. The Patriots are 4 and 7 in Denver. And they had never won a playoff game in Denver before. Going back to the 80s, 0 and 4 in the postseason in Denver. And they did not have good quarterbacks for most of those games. You had Jake, you had Jake Plummer for one of them. Yes, you had the 55 touchdown Peyton Manning,

but you also had the noodle arm Peyton Manning as well. so not good but they won based off one of the based off a really really good home field advantage as far as Denver goes one of the best home field advantages in all of football a good offensive line that kept the quarterback on his feet in a quarterback who was just able to make the throws only the throws that he was able to make when he absolutely needed to make them and a coach who was able to really help them do that. What does Denver have right now? An elite defense, the best in the game right now,

with a really good pass rush that happens to get to your quarterback, a really good offensive line, a seasoned head coach. On top of that, a quarterback who, yes, has his questions, but I'll tell you what I don't question about Bo Nix. That kid has balls. that kid knows how to play when it absolutely matters most his best play comes when it matters most which is scary i do not want to play denver no one should be rooting for denver to get that number one seed nobody if you if you're if you're rooting against the chiefs because you're scared

of them you're rooting for the wrong thing you're just rooting for the wrong thing you should Nobody outside of Denver should be wanting Denver to have that number one seed. If you're a Patriots fan, you should be rooting for that buy. If you're the Colts, you should be doing the same thing. If you're the bills, you want that as well. Nobody wants to go to Denver. I don't care if it's Bo Nix as the quarterback. I don't care if he's been inconsistent.

Denver scares the living crap out of me. I don't want to face them in Denver. That is all. Fair point. My counter is, you know, Denver also had all that in 2014, and they lost Andrew Luck in the Colts. So, yeah. Also, if you bring up 20-5, you also left out the fact New England was probably the most injured team of the four remaining. They were on to, like, RB4, down a tackle, down almost all their linebackers, like, Gronk, Edelman,

Ed Jones. I think Logan Ryan were all game time decisions. And also, come on, that that was also one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen as well. 2005, Broncos didn't win the Super Bowl either. 2015, that was one of the greatest defenses of all time. We've also seen other times where the greatest defenses of all time carry bad offices, aka 2,000 Ravens, and they carried Trent Dilfer's ass to a Super Bowl victory. I mean, if you want to consider- Are you playing this defense can't do it? I mean, they just wrecked Patrick Mahomes and company. And they also beat the Eagles.

Okay. And the Eagles are a very weird offense in their own right. And the Chiefs are in their downfall era. No, I'm not questioning whether or not they can do it. They have the ability. But can they do it in the playoffs? Because that is different. I'm sorry.

It's literally different. We saw what happened to roughly the exact same team last season. And yeah, I know they weren't in Denver. but even if they were, I don't think the outcome would have been different. I think the outcome would have been very different. Denver is a very hard place to play. Do they beat the bills that they were playing in Denver? Yes or no.

No, no, you don't believe that. You don't believe. They have a rookie quarterback, but I would not. It would have been a lot closer. They had a rookie quarterback at the time. Now he's not a rookie. Just seven. Like, no, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. you're just you're chatting just to chat at this point buddy i love you to death but and i take back the comment i said out of shock but oh my god dude no no they they do not win that if it's in denver this season if they went up against buffalo and i would lean towards denver yeah but like i don't know man the playoffs are different that that's just my stance peyton manning had playoff experience that was still patent manning bow nicks is still too green bo necks i would take over that 2015 Peyton Manning right now. Okay, cool.

Bo Nix is everything except experience and experience is what's going to do it, man. Like, that's just my stance. It's like, I don't know. I got to believe when I see it. The playoffs are an entirely different animal. Yeah, look, Bo Nix, I would take over that 2015 Peyton Manning. It's extremely hard to win in this league when you can't throw the football. And Bo Nix can throw the ball.

Peyton Manning could not at that time, and they still won the Super Bowl somehow. They had an elite defense back then, a very good defense, but so does this Denver team. And if they have home field advantage on top of it, on top of, they also have a coaching advantage. I'll take Sean Payton over, what was it, Gary Kubiak at the time? No, it's John Fox. No, Gary Kubiak, John Fox was fired. Was it Kubiak? Yeah, it was Kubiak.

Wow. I forgot you. You got a ring on that team. Yeah. My bad. Yeah. Listen. I'll take there are.

I would definitely say that that 2015 Broncos had a better defense. But I would say I would also say everywhere else this Broncos team has the advantage. Except I guess running back. but who let's see with r j harvey um yeah i wait hold on respectfully they do not have better wide receivers they don't have better wide receivers no i am taking demarius thomas and ammanuel sanders over over courtland sutton pat brian and troyan frankly every day of the week yeah but you have to get you have to get the ball to them so i guess i'm talking about the passing game in general it worked

Oh, Owen Daniels was given New England and Carolina fits, too. He was, I'd take them over. Julius Thomas as well. Can't forget about that. Julius Thomas. Oh, was he? He was still good in 2013. Yeah, Portland State legend, by the way.

We've got to put some respect on his name. But I'm just saying, I mean, once again, I guess we'll know come the playoffs. Yeah. All I'm saying is Denver scares me to death. I out of all the teams that should that you want to travel to I'd travel I guess what it comes down to is like compare the home field advantages for all the teams you wouldn't want to go to Gillette sure um but also would you rather go would you go to Indianapolis I'd be fine with that yeah I'd be fine if let's say the Patriots or the bills or the the Chargers had to go into Indy that's easy it's it's in a dome it's about as neutral grounds as it gets and they have to pump crowd noise if you're remember that. Buffalo's a tough home field advantage. I'll say that. Arrowhead, yes. Arrowhead. Yeah. Arrowhead's a tough one, but you're not going to have to go there.

That's a different question to ask. Would you rather host Kansas City or go to Denver? I'd rather host Kansas City at this point. I'd rather host Kansas City at this point. I, I, And that team, I mean, I would just, I mean, not this year. Well, Adam, at that point, it's, I would rather any home playoff game, period. Yeah. But you also don't want to travel to Denver. I wouldn't want to travel to air. I guess, I guess my problem, Adam, is that you're relying too much on history to have your point be proven in this case where, like, you brought up the dynasty.

And it's like half of those teams weren't even considered the greatest defenses of all time. Like that 05 team then lost to the Steelers at home in the AFC championship. Which says more about the home field advantage, though, that you hosted the 2005 Patriots coming off back-to-back Super Bowl victories and you beat them with Jake Plummer. Great. And then you lost the next week. So it really doesn't matter. I don't want to. Exactly.

It's the snake pit. It's the place where great playoff teams go to die. I mean, that 2015 Patriots. I don't think they should have lost and they still did it. I don't know. I think you're just relying too much on history where it's happened so few times. So that's four and seven and four and seven. Yeah, I'm not disputing the fact that our, like the Pat's record is what it is.

But when you also look at the other teams that have gone in and gone and it done, like it kind of counteracts it. Anyways, let's move on because we still have a few more topics. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine if you take bow nicks over half the quarterbacks in the league. That's fine. All right. Bill's buck, shootout. Bill's get the win.

That's coming up next. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Bills get the win against the bucks, 44 to 32.

Josh Allen, six touchdowns in this game. And, well, this was the prototypical Josh Allen. This was as much of a Josh Allen game as you could ever. If I were to show my kids, what was Josh? Allen like I would probably show him this game because it had everything three touchdown passes, three rushing touchdowns. You also have two bad picks where one of them you throw a two-handed chess pass from your own end zone somehow that only ended up in three points for the bucks.

But Josh Allen was insane. But obviously, well, CJ was talking this before we started this episode was that that didn't pass the eye test. I want to know more about that in a sec, CJ, but looking at some of the other cool storylines, Sean Tucker, 19 carries, 106 yards, two touchdowns. On the ground, had a receiving touchdown as well. There's your waiver wire pickup of the week.

But in general, this is another game where, you know, you think you have two Super Bowl contenders. and by the way, the Pats held both of these teams, respectively, 30, 23 points and 20 points to the Bills and Buccaneers, respectively. Just want to make that point. And they let up 30 plus to each other. Anyways, Bill's run defense was gashed. The Bucks, they look like they're in trouble.

Panthers are on their tail. what do we make of this fellas C.J. Let's start with you. Let's start with you, Mr. Let's not pass the eye test. He didn't. I'm sorry, he didn't. You know, Adam, look, I know you're going to skewer me, but I don't care. I literally don't care. You're just going to be like, um, actually, but yeah, whatever, whatever. I'm just saying, like, so many errands, huh? Okay, cool. Two interceptions probably should have been four. all right i'm just saying like oh yeah you see to the untutored eye of the ignorant mouth breathing layman you would say oh six touchdowns but i'm sorry so many errant throws two

interceptions he single-handedly kept the bucks in that game then again the buck self-destructed that didn't help them their defense was especially their run defense was gashed repeatedly their running game was silenced and on top of that oh six touchdowns yeah such a big man running from the five yard line ooh it's not like these were just bombs that were going all over the field it's not sustainable we've already seen what buffalo is and no it was a good game like don't get me wrong six touchdowns is still impressive i'm just like okay no like no no that's actually really good. I just, I'm watching the game and I'm once again, it's the eye test. That's really all it is. If you're going to say it's different, that's fine. But if you want to counter me, I warn you, first,

you have to understand that countering me would require me to care what you think. And I really don't. Alan got lucky. The bills escaped that game. And I think they're good, but James Cook doing nothing. wide receiver core once again not looking good also what the hell's going on with keong coleman i was right about that if you remember what i said about it during the pre-draft process you and me both you and me both yeah no i did not like him and also that defense does not scare me anymore that stout buffalo unit i don't know but for the box geez man oh my god like yeah i'm glad you got the running game going, Sean Tucker. You know, Syracuse legend, Sean Tucker, that's great. Hell, yeah. Honestly, I think you can all agree. The injuries are really starting to catch up

with Tampa. They, they really are, especially on offense. You know, they're learning, oh, you could just double at Buka every play. And, you know, Sterling Shepherds, you know, he'll do something. Tess Johnson's fine, but he's more of a like one catch take to the house type of do. But either way, he still only had one catch where he got lit up. It's just, uh, that Tampa defense is still, you know, I don't, I don't trust him. The sooner they get Chris Godwin and Bucky Irvin back the better, but still it was a good win for Buffalo. Obviously, you know, you're still second in the division. They're still going to make the playoffs regardless, but I don't know. I'm just saying pump the brakes, God forbid. But still, great victory. This is the second time I think

at Allen's career, he's had three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns. But he did also keep the bucks in the game. That's all I'm saying. Adam? Yeah. So he completed 63% of his passes. He averaged 11 yards per attempt. And yeah, you can count the dropped interceptions, but you also have to look at the

interceptions that he threw. One of the two was terrible. I'll give you that, CJ. But the other one bounced up into the air and then went into. the arms of a buck of a box player yeah it was bouncing in the air because he threw it into a tight window that was still an ill-advised throw was it a wide receiver pick yeah you could argue that but still he chucked into double coverage and it got tipped yeah but it bounced into the air it's not like it was a it's not like it was a he threw it right to a defender so it was it was

one of those picks that's more on the receiver than anything else oh you yourself said they No, yeah, I obviously did. No, I agree. You can use the at home and them all you want. I'm just saying, no, like, you still shouldn't throw it into double coverage. CJ, we gave you a lot of time.

Can I, can I just have my time? He is right. He is right, CJ. Let him have his time. Yeah, sure. I mean, but why are you just going to sit there and twist words to fit your narrative? I'm not, I'm not going to allow that.

I'm not, that I'm not, I'm not twisting words. I'm just saying, let's point out the interseller. Let's let him speak. Girl, are going to let Adam speak. 10.6 yards per attempt on 63% completion percentage, 104.4 passer rating. But when you look at what he's working with, you have James Cook who did absolutely nothing that game.

Dalton Kincaid was out. They benched Keon Coleman because the guy has a terrible attitude. It probably shouldn't have been picked. even in the second round we can see why he fell out of the first jesus christ um that team had nothing to throw to and alan still threw for three touchdown passes he rushed for three and he threw for over 300 passing yards he by definition did not get lucky he carried the team to a victory and it may have looked ugly but you're going to have to have play a little hero ball when you have nothing to work with me yeah there was a lot of bad

but there was so much more good and it may not have been clean but this is the josh allen experience this is what happens and this is why this is why uh joe brady needs to be out and brian dable needs to be back and somebody needs to let allan off the leash and do his thing he's going to throw for a couple of picks but he's also going to throw for three touchdown passes and rush for three and throw and throw for over 300, 300 yards. This is what he does. This is how you play the game. It's not always going to be perfect.

Every quarterback throws picks. If you just play like, play conservative football when you're in a shootout with another team that's scoring at will on you, you need to be able to let your quarterback who's perfectly capable of gun slinging it, let him sling it around. And he did that. and he won you the game they need to do more of that joe brady needs to be out get brian dable on the phone right now that's my take talk your thoughts first things first i don't think you can hire a coach that's not available during the season it has to be during the offseason

unless they're already on the staff i'm hyperbolizing though but you know i was hyperbalizing you got you first things first congratulations to the Buffalo Bills. They were able to get this one out. Josh Allen had six total touchdowns, two interceptions, but six total touchdowns. I will say that game could have been easier for the bills, but, oh, no, I think the Bucks are dealing with a lot of injuries. I don't think they can be as good as they could be if they weren't so damn

riddled with all the players that are missing like Mike Evans, Chris God, and so on and so forth. And it made it tough for Baker Mayfield to find other people open. I mean, if you just double amic amica abuka. I mean, it makes it harder. But other than that, that I will say the bill's defense, primarily when it comes to a rushing attack, needs help. Because my God, there's no reason why Sean Tucker should have over 100 yards rushing. That shouldn't have happened. But Josh Allen, for all his mistakes, was able to gut it out, show his brilliance and throws. three touchdowns and rushed for another three touchdowns and miraculously got them the win in the end.

So all and all, congrats to the Buffalo Bills. Congratulations to Josh Allen and back to the drawing board for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I thought they were going to win this game. I was wrong. And so I'll eat my L this week. Yeah. Do you want to touch on anything that CJ and Adam had to say? No, you guys know how I feel about Josh Allen.

I'm where, okay, he does this, but if we compare, like, when it comes to Lamar, he doesn't get the same comparisons that he does. I just want it to be fair, that's all. I've never said Josh Allen isn't a bad quarterback. I think he's a great quarterback, but I think it's just unfair how many things he gets away with. And my second thought was when he threw that interception, I thought CBS is probably going to say Josh Allen threw a punt inside the five of his own. inside the five of the bill's territory i thought that and i was like no that's just me hating but i think he's a great quarterback and obviously a top five quarterback in the game well this is a problem that i have with with with with the way that josh allen has been used is they

kind of use him in the the same play style that they try to do with lamar jackson where they kind of have him and lamar has has great legs so they have him play to his strengths they have him run a lot with Josh Allen, he should be slinging it all over the field. That's what he should be doing. And the problem with Lamar is I mean, he was used a little too much to run.

And I don't think that up until now that he has been used to throw enough. So good on the Ravens coaching staff for having him throw more. But as it pertains to Allen, it feels like they were trying to have him run

too much this year. And last year, well, which is why he didn't throw as many picks, but he also was a little less effective in winning games. That's just where he's at his best. So you want him to be a dunslinger? I think that's when Josh Allen's at his best, yeah. He's going to throw a lot of picks, but that's just, it's part of what he's going to do. All right. Also, at what point do we blame Sean McDermott? Because you can talk about Joe Brady all you want, but you've got guys all know, I have not been the thrill with Sean McDermott

for years. If they fall and don't win the win the division this year, I think that's a great excuse. It's a great off ramp for them to actually fire him finally because you know, Brian, again, Brian Dayball is available and he is in

love with Josh Allen. So much so that he wanted to draft Josh Allen's clone Drake May and was willing to work with Joe Shane to trade three first round picks for him, to trade up there. So

I think he returns and ends up as a head coach. Interesting take. Anything else we want to touch on from this game? All right. I think we've covered it. We're going to step aside and jump forward to later tonight, Monday night football.

A little recap along with week week 11, top three, bottom three, says the Fulmurski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws, back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.

Welcome back to the Fulmuruski podcast. Well, Monday night football is a stinker. Cowboys, their offense is good. Raiders, well, they're bad and they're 2 and 8. That's your Monday night football recap. Other than that, C.D. Lamb and George Pickens were benched for the opening drive of the

game and, well, it seems that whatever happened is fine. Ryan Schottenheimer loves him again. All right. Week 12, top three, bottom three. Pretty sure it's week 11, but okay. Week 11, top three,

bottom three first on the top three we have the Philadelphia Eagles Eagles with a big win against the lions and really just furthering themselves into staying in that top spot in the conference

granted yeah still questions about the offense but boy this defense is insane the D line is so ferocious and just the way that they manhandled Jared Gough in the Lions. We talked about it earlier too, but

impeccable performance from the Eagles defense. The Broncos, you know, we put the Broncos and the Eagles in such a similar light, and it makes sense, you know, because at the end of the day, as to what Adam had

said earlier, the Broncos win games. Onix, maybe he is just a winner after all. Either way, they're at the top of the conference as well, a massive win against the Chiefs, and probably doing everyone a favor and kicking them out of a playoff spot for now. The last team on the top three, the Los Angeles Rams.

Boy, what a day for the defense. What a day for the defense. And this was as big of a defensive game for the Rams, especially when you consider the fact that the Seahawks had 15 and a half more minutes of possession time than the Seahawks had 15 and a half more minutes of possession time than the Rams did in this game and they only let up 19 points and these are two very good offenses. Obviously hats off to the Seahawks defense for holding the Rams to 21 points, but didn't get the win and forcing Sam Darnold to throw four picks in this game.

Before we get to the bottom three, anything you guys want to add? I thought the Rams played. Well, we already talked about the top three. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. I kind of forgot all about that. Bottom three.

Well, we already talked about one of these teams, and we'll just get it out of the way, the Seahawks. Well, Sam Darlane through four interceptions. And really, when you look at the stats, the team stats, you beat the ramps. But you didn't beat them on the scoreboard. All around, just a bad day for the Seahawks, mainly just mainly San Darnold lost you the game.

That's... I still can't believe a field goal almost won that game. Yeah. Despite all of that, that's unbelievable. It is. All right. to two teams that we haven't talked about yet today

we'll start with the Chargers six points against the Jaguars letting up 35 against the Jaguars I almost just knocked over my mic but like against a team like the Jaguars that like they are one of the

perfect definitions of I don't know what the hell I'm going to get Trevor Lawrence and people are on their last nerve about Trevor Lawrence on if he's even a good quarterback. They hang 35 on your head.

Unbelievable. Along with that, you know, the Broncos also, well, they're grabbing hold of the AFC West, a chokehold of the AFC West and not letting go. The Bengals. Bengals last team on the bottom three.

And this goes perfectly with some news that broke in between our recording sessions and it's the fact that CD Lamb is now suspended for a game Chase Jamar Chase What did I say? What did I say?

It's late. We get it. Rewind. Rewind. Coupled with the fact that Jamar Chase has been suspended for a game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Being appealed.

But obviously another big reason is that you only got 12 points against the Steelers. You lost big against the Steelers. Steelers team that ended up having to go to Mason Rudolph for half the game. Ultimately, it was a couple of turnovers on the opposite side of the football that heard the Bengals at the end of the day. But it's lost in Steelers, lost in the Young Bowl. But, yeah, that's really the breaking news from earlier, though, is that Jamar Chase, amongst other players that have been hurt, you know, your Michael Pennix being out for the year and Drake London being out this week and for however long, this comes up. This was amongst all the other big games.

This was the biggest story considering our top two receiver in the league. and he's spitting on Jalen Ramsey and now getting suspended for it. And Jalen Ramsey was the one that got kicked out of that game too. Yeah, Trey Hendrickson, doubtful again on top of that. You lose Cam Taylor Britt, one of your top corners for the rest of the year. That team really has nothing going into week 12th. That team is just bottomed out. Bare ass.

It's just nothing. also just another another thing um the eagles right tackle lane johnson list frank yeah list frank done for four to six weeks which is pretty much at this stage of the season the whole year so yeah four to six four to six they said yeah uh it also uh no i was just I want to have a more thing. The Chargers, I mean, I'm seeing everybody, like, on Chargers fans and social media blame the injuries for that game. It's like, oh, the offensive lines hurt, to which I say, okay, your offensive lines hurt. Why did your defense give up 35?

That those two things can't be true at once here. Like, I don't understand it. And even if your offensive line is hurt, six points is all you could manage against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Oh, my God. And then it's like, oh, well, if they were healthy, to which I say, oh, my God, if, Justin Herbert, it's If Man. If Man rises again, guys. You love to see it. There's always an excuse for him.

Remember how you were talking about Lamar and Josh Allen, how one side gets made, you know, one side gets excuses, the other side gets chewed out. Yeah. Herbert gets excuses, too. It's always, if he had better coaching, if there were injuries, if he had better receivers, I'm tired of if. No more ifs for If man. I think that's fair. he is such a fraud it's at the point where we're just he has the receivers he has the i mean the offensive lines been hurt but he had it last year was health it was healthy and then

he threw what two three picks i thought it was just two but he might have thrown three either way yeah bad but it's still bad baller pick him it's not good yeah he is still a really great quarterback but in terms of like the bit like in terms of like the actual big games he's walmart brand josh allen no he's not the runner josh allen is he's not a bruiser he's microwaved jackson dart leftovers okay no we're not gonna talk come on no adam i cannot let actually you want to hear a good comp for him he's literally from Charter's QB to another, he's Philip Rivers.

Yeah, okay. And if he does make the playoffs, he be sure shit ain't winning. And Philip Rivers was a great quarterback. Yes. That's fair. That is fair. He's literally just a second coming of Philip Rivers.

Ain't going to win. But he does have a cooler name. I was going to say Drake May, but I don't want to disrespect Drake May like that. I said I was going to say microwave Drake May left. You see how I'm comparing the prototype of the quarterback? We are not draking it today. This is not his day.

We're doing this another day. Well, technically, we are recording on Drake May Monday. It's a holiday. This is a weekly holiday. This is supposed to be about Justin Herbert, and we're treating this. Like, this is, I think, yes, yes, you're right. It is about 81 passing yards and an interception will do that to you. Yeah.

The only thing I have to say is, I wonder what the Cincinnati defense said to the offense, because it wasn't their fault that they lost that game. Probably hit Jamar Chase with the old well, well, well after Chase, you know, was screaming, oh, one stop against the Bears. And then Tays and say, hey, we did our job for once. How about one score? One score. That would not bad that would have helped, but, you know. I mean, the defense also did give up 32. No, they didn't give up 32.

It wasn't just Jamar Chase either. Oh, yeah, that's right. But I was just talking about the Jamar Chase clip where he's like just one F and score like that. Like there were a few of them who were talking to reporters in that offense. Following that game where the Bengals came back and then blew it anyways because of their defense. Against the bear. There were a couple of them. Yeah, it wasn't the running back?

Yeah, Chase Brown was talking about it too. Yeah, he was not happy. And then Jamar Chase, double. doubled down and he said, well, you've got to get a stop here. We're busting our ass. This is literally what we said at the beginning of the year about the Bengals, is it not? Is this literally what happened to the beginning of the year? About how they'd be dropping 45 every game, but the defense gives up 50, for lack of a better

term? They should all request trades. No, they can't. Chase can't, Higgins, can't, and Burrow can't. Well, they can't. The cheap-ass owner just won't do anything. Thank you. We just paid every each one of us. You're not on the bank.

If I'm the owner, I can't get rid of them. I just paid them. I just paid them because of Burrow. Think of the hall you can get. If you give up your superstar, superstar receiver, you can get four first round picks. And those picks could be anything, even a superstar receiver. You're not getting two first rounds for Jamar Chase, especially right now. Oh, yes, you are. Not too. No. not right now right now no in the off season we can we can come to this but not right now well of course now you can't trade it you can't you can't do that i'm just talking in general

if they had the option to i don't think anyone would bite on that right now considering the news there's a couple receivers who are really frustrated have you heard the news about Justin Jefferson. Yes, but that's just I mean, you could just look at him on the sideline and know that he's frustrated. I remember a time when a Vikings receiver got traded back in the late

2000s to another team, and it worked out pretty well for the team. Well, he went to a different team first and then came to that other team. Let's get this thing started. Let's bring him to the Raiders. I'm all down here. I'm also

I'm also thinking of another former Vikings receiver that went to two other places before they got to a specific place as well. So it's destiny is what I'm hearing. Yeah, yeah. I'm referring to Stefan Dix. Yes, I could piece that together. Hey, man, they always have that one spot that they get traded to where they're like, man this sucks and then suddenly they have a fetish for new england yeah

um super bowls i have a i have a king for super bowls all of a sudden they all they they all they they just they yearn they yearn for it they yearn for a ring they yearn for the minds how did we get here how did how did we get here i think we should end the show yeah we just have a little fun but okay sleep yeah all right

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