The Game with Alex Hormozi - I Reverse Engineered the Perfect Business | Ep 595
Episode Date: October 3, 2023Watch the YouTube version of this episode HERE"You need to sell more customers. You need to make them worth more.” Today, Alex (@AlexHormozi) outlines strategies to enhance the value of a business, ...including cash flow, profitability, growth, and audit readiness, with a focus on reaching a 5 million EBITDA mark.Welcome to The Game w/Alex Hormozi, hosted by entrepreneur, founder, investor, author, public speaker, and content creator Alex Hormozi. On this podcast you’ll hear how to get more customers, make more profit per customer, how to keep them longer, and the many failures and lessons Alex has learned on his path from $100M to $1B in net worth.Timestamps:(2:37) - The 3 Important Variables(4:10) - Leadership Team In Place Running Day To Day(15:09) - Marketing Without The Face Of The Founder(18:06) - Delivery Without The Face Of The Founder(22:25) - Multiple Reliable Acquisition Channels(31:36) - Reliable Recurring Revenue(40:19) - Diverse Customer Base(45:20) - Automated Metric Tracking(52:22) - High Cash, Profitable, Growing(59:38) - Audit Ready Financials(1:03:29) - 5MM+ in EBITDAFollow Alex Hormozi’s Socials:LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Acquisition
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You might be thinking, well, how long does it take to improve this stuff?
Like, if I'm at a million or I'm at two million, like, how long does it take to improve?
Well, if you have the right tools and systems and the right plan, the right who, the what, and the how,
you can get the right outcome pretty quickly.
Welcome to the game where we talk about how to sell more stuff to more people in more ways and build businesses worth owning.
I'm trying to build a billion dollar thing with Acquisition.com.
I always wish Bezos, Musk, and Buffett had documented their journey.
So I'm doing it for the rest of us.
Please share and enjoy.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, I started a company called Jim Launch.
And Jim Launch basically turned Jims around and then eventually became a licensing business
that licensed over 5,000 locations.
But here's the crazy part.
We went from $0 to $4.4 million per month in 20 months.
And it also sucked.
And that's what people won't tell you.
Because at the time, I felt like the genius with a thousand hands.
I was in charge of every single apartment with my wife.
And we were basically doing everything while trying to manage and lead while seeing the company.
and hiring and firing and training and onboarding and dealing with more customers who could possibly
handle. Obviously what it felt like for us is this constant roller coaster of emotions and I felt like
a dancing bear on camera because every time customers would start going down, I'd be like,
oh, I've got to go make some more ads, I got to go get on camera, I got to go drum up some business.
And so this thing felt like this rocket that I was holding on to and I was sweating, but until
I hit a wall and I didn't know what to do. And every time I went to these like masterminds and coaching
groups, I was by far the biggest person in the room. And so I was like, what do I do?
I don't know where to go.
It got so bad that Layla and I, my wife, were walking one day, and she said, let's just
shut this thing down.
I was like, wait, hold on.
This might be worth something.
So I called an investment banking friend of mine, and I said, hey, if I were to sell
my business, like, do you think I could get anything for it?
And he's like, oh, you could get millions of dollars for this business.
And I was like, wow, that sounds amazing.
He said, wait, but not right now.
There's a ton of things wrong with it that you'd have to fix in order to get an
institutional investor to want to invest the kind of money that you would want to make
exit. And that's what began this journey of figuring out how to take something that just makes money
into an incredibly valuable asset that can change your life forever and your family's life from a
financial perspective. And everything about to show you in this is something that we developed
at acquisition.com called the value acceleration method. Now, you've probably heard of big companies
like Netflix and Amazon and Microsoft being worth $2 trillion, $5 trillion, $1 gazillion dollars. How does that even
come to be? Like, how can something be worth a certain amount? We talk about. We talk about it. We talk
a lot about value, provide value to people, make valuable content, right? But when we're talking
about value within a business, the person we're providing value to is the investor who's going
to buy a share of it. So there's only three variables that are really going to affect how much a
company is going to be worth. One is increasing the number of customers. If all else remains the
same, if you 10x the number of customers, you will 10x the value of the business, sometimes more.
The next is something I call lifetime gross profit, which means the amount of profit that you
generate from these customers over the lifetime of their stay with your business. For example,
if I own a food cooking business and I sell meals for $10 and I sell 10 meals, on average
somebody, my lifetime revenue would be $100. But if I only make a dollar on each of those
meals, my lifetime gross profit would be $10. And so if I want to make more money, I'll either
have to get more customers or make them worth more. So then what's the third variable? Because this is
pretty much all it takes to grow a business, which by the way is what it is, you divide that by
risk, meaning how likely is it that this will continue in the future? And so if you listen to Uncle
Warren, he talks about the value of businesses, is taking all the future cash flows that it will
ever generate discounted into the present, right? And so these are the things that are all the
cash flow that it's going to generate for the rest of its time. This is the discount to the
present. And those are the three variables that you have to increase or decrease the value of a
company. And all these three things put together equal a term called enterprise value. So take out your
notepad because each one of these 10 things unlocks another level of enterprise value in your
business. And when you get them all right, you make a lot more money. So let's start with
piece number one, leadership team in place running the day to day. So for each one of the 10 that I'm
about to go through, I'll explain what it actually is, how I learned it, and then how you can
tactically execute and fix these things so you can increase the value.
your business. So a leadership team in place running the day-to-day means that the person who owns the
business can leave the business and the business can not only maintain but also grow in their absence.
Now, the thing is, is that most small businesses, the business owner is the reason the business
even exists. And if the business owner leaves, so does the business. The problem is, if you leave
and the company goes down, then it means that no one else can buy it. And as much as this is
uncomfortable for a lot of entrepreneurs, many people own businesses that are worth nothing. I mean that,
not as an insult, but more so because what they did was they created a job that pays well,
that they have other people who help them, and they pay those people to help them, but they
haven't created an asset. And so I always remember this saying, you get paid for what you do,
you get returns on what you own, all right? And so the idea is that if you want to become
wealthy, you get wealthy from owning assets. If you want to become rich, you increase your paycheck.
All right? And that's the big difference. So let me give you a tail of two different
businesses that we have in the portfolio that tried to solve for this risk.
The first one ended up just saying, hey, I've got this buddy of mine in my network.
He's never run anything like this.
He's just run little like odd job type businesses.
And I'm going to have him come in and be the operator of my significantly larger company than this person has ever run.
And we were very vehemently against that.
But we sit in a minority position.
And so we say, listen, if that's what you want to do, I'll support you.
But I want to voice the fact that I don't agree with this.
So we will voice the fact we don't agree.
But once the decision is made, we will support it to the best of our ability.
Now, I'm not going to tell you what happened yet.
Second scenario is a company where we've continued to grow it.
It had plateaued at a point where we saw we really needed to help the two founders and bring in a more seasoned operator.
And so this is a brick and mortar chain.
We took somebody who had taken a brick and mortar chain from 100 to 2,000 locations open over a span of 10 plus years,
had a lot of experience, opening locations, negotiating leases, managing buildouts, getting vendors in line on timelines,
managing capital allocations so that we can actually roll out at the same pace,
making sure profitability across all of them,
ensuring quality assurance, I won't get in any more of it,
but somebody who knew what he was doing.
Guess what happened?
So we've got our sad operator and our great operator who come into the business.
So with the first instance, what happened afterwards?
The business plateaued, costs continued to rise because this operator didn't understand
how to manage cash flow, manage profitability, basically got more people into the business
without increasing any kind of revenue, which then basically ate up all of the profit
in the business, and this business was not profitable for nine months. It lit it just broke even
for nine months. And this was a very profitable business prior to this. In this scenario, with the
more seasoned operator, this business continued to grow at the same pace, but the profitability
increase expanded at a dramatically faster rate with this new person in there. And so they even
had a period where he said, hey, I think we should just focus for this entire quarter on making all
of our locations just more profitable. We don't even need to open more. And dramatically
increase the profitability of the entire business overall. And that's the difference between having an
experienced operator and an inexperienced operator. And if I'm a buyer and I'm looking at the business
and I say, okay, these founders are going to disappear. Imagine the founder disappears here. I'm like,
I have no desire to buy this thing. Right. Versus here, I say, well, gosh, I can see when this guy
came in. I can see what it increased based on his decision making and his experience. Wow, I feel like
there's way less risk, which means this is more valuable. So let's talk about what you can do.
Number one is this is the type person who becomes either a manager.
If you have a smaller business, it could be a director of operations.
If you have a slightly larger business, it could then eventually become a VP of operations.
And then finally, it become a CFO.
And one of the early mistakes a lot of entrepreneurs make is they have a four-person business and say,
this is my CFO.
It's not your CFO because if they Google salary of what the CFO makes,
they probably make more than your entire business makes.
So would it make sense?
All right.
Now, that's what that person title looks like.
Let me tell you one of the mistakes that I've made so many times early on in my career
is that I thought an operator was someone who managed systems and organization.
That's not what it is at all.
An operator is somebody who can lead the business.
It has to be someone that you aspire to be like that you admire in different ways.
And it should be people that everyone on your team could look up to.
Because that is what is going to allow you to step out of the limelight a little bit
so that they can actually take some of the load off of you.
And let me give you the litmus test for knowing if an operator is good or not.
If you feel like you have more time now and you have way more bandwidth, they have helped you.
If they try to tell you to do all of these new things that you weren't doing before, they are arguably hurting you.
So the way that you have to look at this as a business owner is the difference between local and global.
Meaning, if I tell the sales team that they have to put notes in the CRM, that actually increased how much stuff they do on a local level.
But by them doing that, I decreased all the work in the rest of the company globally.
And so if an operator comes in and says, everyone has to do all these things, you have to
zoom out as the owner and say, does this decrease work globally?
Or is this just giving us more stuff to do?
And a good operator tries to use as few systems as possible to decrease work across the entire
company.
Whereas a bad operator will feel entitled and saying, why aren't these people following out their
checklist. They're not finishing the tasks that I gave them to do. It's because they add things
without removing them. And so from low to high, you'd have a manager. You might have a director
of ops. You might have a VP of ops. And then eventually you'd have a C-O-O. All of these fundamentally
do the same thing just at different levels of an organization. I would always prefer to start lower.
Most people overtitle. It's one of the biggest problems that small business owners have.
They over-credentialize people, and then people beat their chest and get their ego involved.
then you don't have room to bring people above them.
Because if you have somebody you're like,
oh, this person's been with me since they won,
so then realistically, they're probably not a COO, right?
They're probably a manager or maybe a director of operations.
And one of the sad truths, and this is just data,
is that if you 10x in size,
the likelihood that you have the leadership team
you had at 1x when you were at 10x is virtually nonex
is virtually non-existent.
People develop skill sets,
and those skill sets are good at certain seasons
of the business's growth,
and then they don't fit anymore.
And the only way for that person to stay
the ride is that they have to grow. You have to have a growth mindset. And many people don't have a
growth mindset. You do because you're watching this, but most people don't. It's a much smaller
percentage of people who are willing to do that, one, and then also just because of the
the churn and burn of business in life and moving locations and families and drama and whatever,
that they actually are there with time. You have to always prioritize the business because the business
is what feeds everyone. All the wealth that you want in your entire life is on the other side of a
few hard conversations. And so it's a skill you're going to have to develop. Number two is hire for a purpose.
All right. So you should have a clear idea of why this person is coming in. You want someone to come in with a clear goal or a clear problem to solve. And this makes the interviewing process a lot easier because then you say, you don't have to give hypotheticals. You can just say, hey, this is my business. These are the stats. This is the problem. How would you attack it? And if you ask that to 10 people, the way someone answers the question and the way they talk through it logically should give you some insight into how this person's going to work with you. A lot of times entrepreneurs just hire people that they think they would be friends with. But then you
hire a lot of people like you. And then you still need the people who are not like you to actually
run the business. Look at track record and experience and how comparable or relevant the experience is
as one of the number one predictors that they're going to be able to help you go to where you want
to go. So this applies for a CMO, a CFO, a CPO meaning head of product, all of those C-O's.
All of them, you still want to think this way, which is like, can they do the thing more than
are we going to be best friends? And when we're thinking about replacing the day-to-a, you've got
risk, you've got getting more customers, and you've got making them worth more. So you can
actually think about that in terms of leadership. So you say, okay, if I were to leave,
would we be able to get more customers next month and the month after if I weren't here?
Well, if the answer is no, then all of the leaders that would make that happen would be
checkbox one. The second check box would be making sure customers stay and continue to pay
and maybe increase how much they pay over time. If I leave, is there somebody or multiple people
who are going to make sure that that happens? If the answer is no, then you need to check that
box off. And for us, at gym launch, for example, my limous test is always, if I step away,
does the company continue to grow for six straight months without me jumping back in? Which means
that if they come to you with a problem, you have to say, you have to solve it. They probably
already know what you would do, and they can just make the guess. And a lot of times I would ask,
what do you think? Well, I think you tell me to do this. I'm like, so what do you think?
Like, I think we should do that. Great. Do that. Right. And so that's how it can develop over time.
So number one, these are the different type of titles.
This can be just an example of a leadership team in general.
You're going to want multiple of these roles to fulfill those duties I was mentioning earlier.
Second is you want to hire with a purpose with a specific problem solved,
and you can litmus test how good their solutions are when they talk to you against what your actual problem is.
So number three is that A players know their value.
An A player costs 25% more than a B player.
But A player has produced five times more than B players.
And so being willing to pay a little bit more to get way more.
value is one of the single best investments you can make in business.
That being said, if you are bringing A players on, expect them to want more.
Also expect some of them to negotiate pay.
Some of the best people I've had have tried to negotiate pay when they came in, and that's okay.
I actually had to have a conversation with one of our bigger portfolio CEOs because he had amazing talent person that we found.
He was like, dude, she's trying to negotiate.
If she said, if she loves this job, why doesn't she just take the job?
I was like, A players know their value.
And it's now he said the all-time best hire he's ever had.
and he almost didn't hire.
Good founders know that it's about the size of the pie,
not the shape of the slice.
The founder of the company, when they go public,
has on average 12% of the equity in the business
when they go public.
Now, most people would say that if you founded a company
and then it went public,
that you probably are very, very wealthy.
So those founders understood something
that maybe you didn't,
and definitely something that I didn't
when I was earlier on,
which is that it's about how big you can make the pie.
And the more people who are incentivized
to grow the pie,
the bigger the pie gets. Jeff Bezos doesn't have 100% of Amazon. Warren Buffett has 30-something percent of Berkshire
Hathaway. Elon has 20% of SpaceX. I'm going to ask you a visual question. Would you rather have this
slice of pie or that slice of pie? So it's not about the shape of the pie. It's about how big it is.
And that's what we ultimately care about. And that was a big belief that took me a long time to break as a small business owner.
I wanted to not give anything away.
But it's amazing how much more discretionary effort you can unlock when people feel like owners.
All these things put together go to create the first part of the Mosey Lisa.
So let's talk about piece number two, marketing without the founder.
So this is me, marketing with thy business.
And sometimes even being in the ads and the videos and making the content, whatever it is.
That is not an asset.
That is a job.
this, if I still own it and it's still happening, is an asset. That's the difference. And this is what
the investment banker friend of mine was explaining to me. He said, well, number one, you don't have a
leadership team in place because it's just you and your wife. Number two is that urine every single
ad. If you leave, how do we know we're going to still get customers? I had to step by step,
fix this with my own business so that somebody else could own it. I started filming ads with my
general manager. So we'd film ads together. And he told me later,
that the first time we filled ads, he was like terrified because of course he wasn't going to be as good
because I've been doing it for a decade, right? Like, I've been recording ads for my gyms five years
before that, and then I've been recording ads for gym launch for another five years. So, like,
it'd been a while that I've been on camera pitching stuff. And so I would record all the ads,
and then he would follow me and do the exact same ones. And when we started running them,
surprise, surprise, mine still did better. But we still ran the ads. And he still came with me
to do the ads in every session. And guess what happened?
next. He got better. And over time, he would start having ads that outperform mine. And the way that
we transitioned it was, I did them, and then I would do some with him. And then those were the ads we ran
in the beginning. So it was one versus one and a half. So only Alex, and then Alex plus Kale. Kale is my
CEO. He's still there. To Alex Kale separately to Kale. So that was the transition we went through.
Think about this from a branding perspective. Brand is about associations. And so if people associate me
with this brand, what I need to do is transfer that association to someone else.
And so I say, hey, we're in this together. And we run ads together. And so people are like,
the brand, Alex, this person, brand, and then eventually you can remove Alex and you have
that person in the brand. This process just from here to here took about 12 months. And you might be
like, well, Alex, like you have a personal brand. Why are you doing this? Well, there's a couple
things. One is that you can separate your personal brand from your business. For example,
we've got, you know, Andy Ficella has Annie Ficella. And
and they also has first form.
And they are somewhat different, right?
You've got VaynerMedia and you've got Gary Vaynerchuk.
You've got Alex Formosy.
You've got Acquisition.com,
but I actually have another level of removal
because all of how I actually make money
is not ads for me.
It's companies that we own, right?
So I can sell the assets that we have in our portfolio
without it affecting me.
Like somebody who buys one of our companies
isn't going to be like, well, Alex doesn't come with a deal.
Well, I don't actually influence the business.
I influence how I get deals.
You're always going to be you.
And so your personal brain is always going to stay with you for the rest of your life.
You should want to make sure that it's not intertwined with your primary source of making money.
Mind you, that's if you want to sell.
If you don't want to sell, then don't worry about it.
Just go make money.
It's fine.
Not a big deal.
So the third part of the Mosea Lisa that my investment banking friend said that I didn't have
a need to fix was delivery without the face of the founder.
Okay, so you're not in the ads anymore, but if I'm the one delivering service to customers
or I'm key to the delivery, and so you can think about this in two different ways.
one is I'm literally there doing the thing.
If you are the face and people come for your expertise in some way, then this can be difficult.
Now, sometimes it's just your expertise is innate in why the product is good.
So like if you're a software designer and you're just a genius software designer,
or you're like an amazing editor, even though your firm may sell this and it doesn't actually have to do with you,
if you own the customer relationships, for example, like they only work with it because they love you
or they love your way of designing things, those are all different examples of why a founder would be,
used in delivery and a risk factor for somebody else coming in. So what do we need to do?
A lot of people think that when they're going to replace themselves, they need to find one person
to replace them. But finding another human being who has lived your exact life is impossible.
But it's much easier to find two or three people or five people who've lived portions of your
life in different areas so that together, we're going to make this look even weirder.
You have a hydra of people who can deliver value to the customer.
Now, here's how we did it.
I started edifying different people.
Now, how I did it was, we call them subject matter experts.
So I found people really good at one component of what I did.
I might say this guy is my subject matter expert of sales.
This might be my subject matter expert of retention.
This might be my subject matter expert of marketing.
And so what happens is people will identify that person as an expert in that particular area,
but not necessarily overall.
Now, they still could be good overall, but how you brand them within your world,
matters. Number two, the people that I did put even more edification into had equity in the
business, which also means that non-competes hold weight if there's equity. And so what I started doing
was I would, just like before. First, it's me with them watching. Then it's me and them presenting
things. And then it's me presenting, them presenting, me presenting, them presenting, and then, eventually,
it was me not even showing up to any events whatsoever. And so when we ended up selling gym launch,
It took 24 months from when we decided to do this.
In the six months leading up at the sale,
I didn't show up on a single client anything
because I wanted to prove that the value
had been transferred to everyone else.
And so over time, we'd have each of the subject matter experts
talk on their thing.
My general manager would kind of emcee the event,
give the state of the union,
and it had nothing to do with me.
I owned it.
And to give you an idea of how involved I was
in the beginning to give you some hope
if you're like, man, well, easy for Alex, right?
The first 400 days of gym launch,
I did a Q&A for 90,
minutes every single day. So I just said, hey, if you want my help, I'll hop on with you.
I say this to say that, like, I had a huge amount of demand to show you how much of a contrast
this was from day one today, whatever it was. And put yourself in the shoes of the buyer,
the investor. Why would I want to buy a business where the guy who's literally delivering all
of the values like, hey, can you just pay me for the next six years of value I'm not going to provide?
No, of course not, right? It wouldn't make sense.
I will pay you for all the value that your company will provide to customers in the future if it doesn't require you.
And that's why this affects the risk factor within the business.
Remember this little variable?
We got customers.
Because remember, if you lower the risk, the lower you make the bottom fraction, the bigger, the overall value.
So a mistake that a lot of founders will make is that they'll start selling kind of time with them, one-off things.
Now mind you.
If you're in the beginning and you need to make money, do what you got to do to survive.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm just talking about how to maximize enterprise value.
It's really just more you doing a job.
and getting paid for it, which is fine.
It's just not wealth creation, it's income creation.
So point number one is that it might not be one person,
but many people who end up fulfilling your role within the company.
Number two is that you want to edify each of those people
to the customers in their respective places.
Number three is that you want to transition just like the marketing one before,
me lessen them and then eventually just them.
And then number four, if they're high enough up,
then you can consider giving them small slices.
Now mind you, when I'm saying giving equity,
I'm not saying like give 10%.
I'm saying you can give a half a percent
or 0.1% that these people said that they're still tied into the business. Delivery without the face of the founder.
Boom. Next up, we have this part of the background of the bozileasa, but incredibly important,
multiple reliable acquisition channels. So right now, if your business looks like this, if one day someone
comes in and this just snaps and you have no way to feed, your family over here, all your family,
they all die because you can't eat, right? Very sad. So we don't want to do that. What we want to have
is multiple lines in the water. That's, you know, a fisher with lots of fishing
bulls next to it. All right. So there's two elements of this. You've got multiple and you've got
reliable. And both of those make up the fact that you have a more valuable business. The idea
here is that you want to know that you are not going to have your line snap because you get a ban
on some platform. If all you do is run Facebook ads, if for some reason tomorrow, Facebook
Facebook says, I ban you because I'm the god of media and I don't want you to make money anymore.
And your entire business dies, that's a significant risk.
The same degree, if you make content on YouTube and that's your primary way of getting customers,
YouTube can cancel you.
Or let's say that you have a emailing method that gets customers in the door if you're doing outbound.
Well, yet again, if for some reason you have, you know, your whole domain gets shut down and then your
deliverability tanks, now mind you, all of these things have solutions.
Entrepreneurs are problem solvers.
It's like, well, then I create a new alternate YouTube channel, or I create a new Facebook account under my wife's name and that one we were able to run. Or I spun up a new domain so that I could deliver emails. Like there's obviously solutions around this, but the more of them you have that are consistently getting customers, the less likely an investor is going to think, wow, this can go from 100 to zero overnight. All of these things decrease the risk of the business. And so for us at Jim Watch, I had Instagram, paid ads. I had Facebook paid ads as my only two channels.
right but what ended up happening believe it or not was that during COVID these actually didn't
perform super well for me and so I had to find another way to start marketing and so I actually had
a guy from a competitor company approached me and he's like oh I work at a gym company that I hadn't
heard of and I was like huh that's weird I was like well if you don't mind my asking like what kind of
revenue guys doing it's like oh we do about 10 million a month and I was like okay so you're
telling me that there's another person in my exact space
that's doing more than we are, and I don't even know who they are.
I was incredibly intrigued.
And I was like, well, how do you guys get customers?
He said, oh, we're all outbound.
And so, of course, I was never getting cold calls from them because I'm not a gym owner, right?
But he had a team of 30 plus guys who were cold calling, cold emailing to get customers.
And I was like, well, do you think you could build out the outbound system here?
And he's like, yeah, I'm pretty confident.
He's like, it would take me like, you know, some time, but I think I could do it.
And I was like, all right, well, here's the deal.
I'll give you the job offer, but you're going to start your own department, and it'll just be you,
and you're going to have to start everything from the ground up. And so, the long story short is that
12 months later, it was 50% of our revenue. By doing that, and by mending this, we had outbound
as another method. And because we had three different ways of getting customers, the acquiring
company was like, okay, I feel good. And it wasn't just like, oh, we get 5% of our customers from
this. Half our customers came from outbound. Half our customers came from In.
and they were like, this looks stable. And the thing is, is that over time, this has been a
lifesaver because sometimes stuff does happen. Ads get disapproved. One of your top setters goes on
vacation, where the manager's not doing a good job who you just put in there. Like, there's things
that can break on either of these. But the more that you have that are reliable, the more reliable
the entire business is overall. And that decreases risk, which increases the value of the company.
And doing this, provided you don't drop on your main channel because of your split focus,
also increases the number of customers you get. So this, have a lot of the number of the number of
multiple acquisition channels both increases number of customers and decreases risk, which is why it can be
incredibly valuable. It is, however, one of the most time-consuming and focus draining things you can do
as a business owner. So I would say be very careful when you want to start deploying energy and
resources into it because it's going to take significantly longer than you expect. And so now I've
stood up multiple outbound systems in our portfolio companies and I will tell you what I told them,
which is that it takes 12 months. I remember reading this in a book and it said it'll take 12 months.
And I was like, for normal people.
It's like, I'll stand this up in 12 weeks.
And it took 12 months.
And if you think about timing,
so I'm gonna give you tactic number one is that one-one-one-one-one
one offer, one avatar, one channel.
And that's until you hit $1 million per year.
If you're not there, don't worry about this.
You're not trying to build a valuable enterprise yet.
You're trying to make money, which is fine.
Once you're here, I still would say just increase
how much you're doing of these.
Once you get to about here,
you can consider getting another channel
going. And oftentimes, if you do it right, you can have the other channel support the primary channel.
If I said I wanted to start making content, if I have content, content supports outbound,
content supports paid ads, and sometimes content itself can become paid ads. And so these things
do work together synergistically. It just takes resources. And my recommendation is if you're going to
start it, start with someone else doing it so that you don't stop doing your main job.
So number two is what I just went over, which is the first thing that I'm going to do after I have
something working is more and better. Okay, we have paid ads.
Can we do more paid ads?
Can we make more ads?
Can we make more ads better?
Can we introduce different callouts?
Can we introduce different hooks?
Can we create different value?
Can we get a more voluminous cadence of recording in place?
That would be ways of doing more.
If I was doing outbound, more calls, more dials,
more setters, whatever.
Better is improving the scripts, improving the training,
improving the offer we give them on the phone.
This is the lowest risk way of growing the business.
We already know it works.
Let's do it more, let's do better.
To the point where I think my team is probably tired of me saying,
more better.
And number three is don't kill your business.
in trying to save your business.
If you decide to go after the second channel,
understand that it's going to take a long time.
And so if your main channel drops
while you're trying to start your other channel,
you basically create the problem you're trying to solve.
You want to, one, be patient before you do it
and be patient once you start.
Number two is look at progress more than outcome.
That's what I would highly encourage you to do
because it's going to take time.
So even if you're starting paid ads,
the first thing would be is like, are we getting clicks?
Great.
If you're getting clicks, then it's like,
okay, are we getting opt-ins?
Great.
If we're getting options and can we get scheduled?
Okay, are they showing?
Okay, are the people who are showing the right types of people?
Okay, yes.
Great.
If they're not, okay, what do we need to do to tweak in the targeting or tweak in the messaging
across the whole funnel?
Okay, we're getting on the phone with the right people, but they're not buying.
Okay, then we need to add some more friction.
We need add some more selling aspects, et cetera.
Right.
Look at the progress, not the outcome because if you look at that, you might think,
wow, this took two months and we didn't even make any sales.
But think about it this way.
Let's say it costs you $10,000 a month to invest in a new way to get customers.
And it takes you six months to make your first sale.
Let's say a sale is worth $1,000.
Well, that costs $60,000.
But when you do get that first sale,
you got a 10 to one return on that once you got all the tweaks done.
Well, in that next month, you could spend $30,000 and make $300 and get 5X on your initial investment.
Think about this as investing in a machine that prints money.
Of course, it's going to cost time and cost money to create the machine,
but the machine will pay for itself over and out,
which is why business overall gets higher returns than anything else,
because there are very few other machines,
we can put a dollar in and get 10 back,
or put a dollar in and get 100 back in a month,
but business you can't.
But it costs money and time to figure it out.
My third point here is that I would say,
use others.
And of course, there's examples where you could say,
okay, I started this one channel,
I got a leader in place,
and I'm gonna figure out this next channel.
That's a way of doing it,
as long as that person continues to run the thing without you.
The way that I have preferred to do this over time
is that I will bring someone else in
to start the thing,
and I will consult and give feedback,
but I want them to own it so that I don't just create another problem that I'm going to have to solve in the future,
which sometimes means that it's going to take longer and I have to make sure I'm focusing on the progress,
as long as every week we're moving towards this, we'll get there.
And if you're looking at, well, okay, well, which one would I do next?
Which is a great question, all right, which is number four.
My recommendation is look at where people in your industry already acquire customers.
So if you are a direct-to-consumer brand and you sell something that is weight loss-focused,
well, then paid ads is a huge source for people in that industry.
And you can be confident that if it's paid ads and it's in this media type for businesses of your size,
like don't look at Weight Watchers and be like, well, Weight Watchers is running a Super Bowl ad.
So I should try that.
Probably not the best first step, right?
But if you're looking at other people who run local gyms, then you can say, okay, well, companies of my size in the space are able to acquire customers share profitably.
So if they can do it, so can I.
And that's kind of how I look at it.
Until you've done this multiple times, just look at what other people are doing and you can iterate off that.
Mosy Nation, real quick, if you are a business owner that has a big old business and wants to get to a much bigger business, going to $50, $100 million plus.
We would love to talk to you.
And if you like that, we would like to hear more about it, go to Acquisition.com.
You can apply anywhere on the page and talk to one of our team and see if we can help you get there.
That being said, Acquisition.com, multiple reliable acquisition channels like content.
All right. Tile number five is reliable recurring revenue.
So let me illustrate visually why this is so important.
In a normal business, what might happen is you would sell a customer this month and they're worth a thousand bucks.
And the next month, you sell another customer's worth of $1,000 and make another $1,000 this month.
And guess what?
Month three, you do the exact same thing and make the exact same amount of money.
That is what most businesses do, which is why they are not valuable.
Now, let's say the exact same scenario, except in month one, you sell a recurring customer.
A customer who buys this month, he buys them next month.
buy some month after that. Well, in month two, we're still going to sell another customer.
So we're going to sell that customer, and guess what he's going to do? He's going to pay the next month
two. In the third month, we're going to sell yet another new customer. Boom. Now, if you're
comparing the before and after here of old way, new way, this is just three months. Now imagine
36 months or 60 months. This thing would be this high, and this would just still be the same. And so
when you see a business that's plateaued, it's because they sell the same amount of customers every month,
And those customers are worth the same amount to them, and they do not grow.
They've hit a point of homeostasis.
Recurring revenue businesses, if designed properly, will continue to compound.
And so this is why it takes time to build big things.
And so one of the biggest breakthroughs that I had in my business career was understanding,
not that you should have a subscription, and why it's not just about having a subscription,
because let's say you get a subscription, everyone cancels after the fourth month.
So this is the fourth month.
But every month after this, we're going to have the same revenue.
So this is going to stay the same because they're all worth four months.
So I'm going to stair step up to four months and then I'm going to plateau again.
What you really want is something called net negative churn.
That's a fancy word, but it basically means that every single month,
if you acquired no new customers, you would still make more money.
So an example of this would be something like Salesforce,
which is a company that's valued a gazillion dollars.
And the reason for that is, let's say that this month they have 100 customers.
Now, they may lose one or two customers this month,
but the remaining 98 customers become more valuable.
to them the next month than they were that month because those businesses grow. And the better
designed a business model is, the more aligned your customer's outcomes are with your own outcomes.
And so for Salesforce, they're like, okay, well, if you have more seats or you have more
email contacts or more revenue that's flowing through the software, we get a bigger percentage
of that. And so the remaining growth that they tie themselves to, they get their claws in you,
allows them to continue to grow. And so when they acquire customers, think about this,
if a customer to them might be worth a million dollars, how much can they spend to acquire
customers? Unlimited, that's the difference here is that we want to have revenue that will not only
stay, but also grow. And that's kind of the two levels of this. Like Netflix doesn't really have a lot
of expansion revenue besides you getting add-ons for your family or whatever, right? But they just
hope that you never cancel. And that's more common in consumer businesses. In B2B businesses, because
you have way fewer customers, you want to usually have much more expansion revenue opportunities
tied in a way that not only gets them to not cancel, but actually buy more.
So remember earlier we talked about enterprise value. So enterprise value is the value of the
business. But usually the value of the business is measured by a multiple on earnings,
meaning how much money did this business make this year or the last year? And what is the
multiple that we'd have? So if I made a million dollars in profit and I said the company was worth
$5 million, then it would be a 5x multiple, right? And so in public companies, they call them
price to earnings ratios. Let me show you some companies that you may have heard of. So you've
got Netflix here, we've got Amazon here, little Jeffie B, and we've got a little
little Billy G, little Microsoft. And so you might be like, oh, all of these companies are super
valuable, and they are. But you might not know how much more valuable investors value them
compared to their earnings. And that multiple is purely based on how reliable they think the
future revenue of the company is and how likely it is to continue to grow. So Netflix right now
trades at 44 times earnings. Man, wouldn't that be nice? We made a million dollars in profit. Someone paid you
44 million. What a steal. Microsoft trades at 29 times earnings. A little
less, kind of interesting. Good old Jeffrey B is getting 310 times earnings. Now, there's a couple
things here. Part of the reason that this is 310 is because Amazon actually runs slim margins.
And that's by design because they continue to reinvest in growth and they look at their
returns on capital. And so investors know that at any time, if they wanted to make the business more
profitable, they could. They choose not to make it super profitable, which then compresses the amount
that is being multiplied for this value. So there is a little bit of a game to this in terms of
understanding why the multiples are so high. But when us as business owners, you're probably not
going to be in any one of these scenarios. Realistically, you're probably looking at one to four
times earnings if you're a small business owner that's doing less than 10 million a year. If you're
doing over 10 million a year and over $2 million a year in profit, then sometimes that multiple can
move up. Again, it depends on some of the other factors we're talking about today, which is when you
check all the boxes, then you do own an asset that's valuable. And that's the point of this whole
thing. Part of the reason that Amazon also is a higher multiple is that Amazon has a lot more
expansion opportunities. So think about this, they have Amazon Prime in their whole marketplace,
but then they also have like AWS and they've got Prime Video. They could literally sell everything.
So they have tons of expansion opportunities. Netflix has significantly fewer expansion opportunities,
and so it's not valued as highly. And that's mostly just because they only really have
one core thing. And the other piece is, how defensible is this? How likely is it that another Netflix
gets created? Well, we already have proof of that. You've got Disney Plus, you've got HBO and Max.
They used to be this category king.
They're the only person.
Then everyone else was like, oh, wait, we can just go higher production studios and stream stuff too.
We need to get a couple big brands behind us.
Disney was like, we'll get Marvel and Star Wars.
And then they weren't the dominant.
They were just a channel.
Whereas Amazon, it's virtually impossible to recreate what Amazon's done.
And so they also have this big competitive mode around them,
which makes it almost impossible for anyone to beat them at their game.
And so they have this base way of holding on to all their customers.
And then all they're going to do over time is just add more and more and more ways
like buying Whole Foods to make money from their money.
customers. But there are nine Cs of recurring revenue. When I think about this is like,
how could I increase how sticky it is or how likely someone is to continue to pay me for
whatever I have? Number one is consumption. Are they actually using the thing that they are paying for?
Right. One of the interesting things I found out in the gym world is that almost everyone is
willing to pay for a gym membership that they use. And almost no one is willing to pay anything
for gym membership that they don't. The next is collateral. Think about a storage unit.
They've got your stuff. Like you have to keep paying them. A payment processor has all of your
customer data and they process all of it.
They make it very difficult for you to take your credit card info,
which is encrypted from their payment processor
to somebody else's.
And so they have collateral, they have some of your shit.
And so they force you to keep paying them
so that they keep making money.
The next is cost of switching.
Is there a way that I can make it difficult to leave?
Don't think how do I make my customers life harder,
more think how do I make my thing so much better
that they would lose all of these benefits if they left?
If I have 10 friends in a community
and I pay for that community and then I leave
and I meet with them in person on regular basis,
I'm going to lose that. So there's a high cost of switching. Next is choice. I don't want many other
choices like what I have available for them. If you have a patent or you have some sort of trade secret
that makes it difficult for other people to clone what you have, so your N equals one of the only
option that someone can have. Next is control the money flow. This is more in a B2B scenario,
but if I have the ability to control the money flow, that's why like payment processing and software
always tries to get the ability to process your payments for you, Uber processes their payments for their
drivers, DoorDash does for their restaurants. If you can control the money flow, you have a lot
more leverage for them to stay with you. The next is a softer one, all right, which is cause,
charities, movements, things that you associate with. If you have two different options,
and you're like, you know what, this one does a lot of good in the world. I align my identity
with their values. I want to continue to pay there. And I hinted at this one before, but community,
right? Like, community is a way to increase the stickiness around whatever the recurring membership
you have is, right? Whether it's a gym or it's an online subscription. If there is a
a community. Now, you might be like, well, there's no community around Netflix. You're right,
but do you think that there's a community around Stranger Things? Hell yeah, there is. Right? And you want
to be able to say on Monday morning, dude, did you see the new episode of Stranger Things? It was wild.
Right. And so you commune with other people about the content. Next is contracts. And that's the same
idea as commitments, right? So if I say, hey, you're signing up for a 12-month membership. Here's
the contract. That's your commitment. Then you're going to have a stickier recurring revenue than you
are if it's just months a month you can cancel whenever you want. And the last one I'll give you is
communication, which is literally just talking to your customers more regularly. So in the gym world,
we figured out that when we said we're going to run events on a regular basis, belly blast or
Big Booty Boot Camp or whatever it is, our churn would decrease leading up to the event because they
had something to look forward to. But then after the event, it would go up. And so what do you do?
You just always have something for people to look forward to and you communicate that regularly.
So I give you nine ways to do recurring revenue. There are more, but that's a good place to start.
Do you think we've checked this one off? I think so. This looks like a nice,
corner. That was antichlamect. So our next one is part of my bicep, or Moseelie Lisa's bicep,
diverse customer base. So having a diverse customer base, let's imagine that this is your customer
base. You've got all these little fishies here. And then all of a sudden, one day, boom. Mr.
Whale comes along and says, I want to give you so much money because you're a small business
owner. You're like, man, I got to win this whale. I want to make this money. And hey, don't
give me wrong. By all means, go whale hunting. But the thing is that this actually materially
changes your entire business and your business strategy. If you continue to acquire customers here,
and then you have to keep delivering on and hire more people to deliver for this whale,
you've got to got this weird business. And if I'm a buyer, then you really don't have this
business. These are almost irrelevant. It's like having only one customer. And if that whale all of a
sudden gets sick or just doesn't like you or one of your reps say something rude and he says,
I'm going to swim away, then you're sad and then you're like, what do I do? And now I have all
these people that are overhired for, et cetera, et cetera. And so if you had the choice between this
with a couple of little fishies underneath or a whole school of fishies, then as an investor,
you're going to want this because it's more diverse. If I lose one fishy, it's not really going to
kill me and I can go get another fish. But if you're thinking, what else could I do? Well,
I'll tell you, if you decide that you want to do this whale thing and you realize that whales are worth
more and you actually enjoy the process more, then go get a whole bunch of whales. You will still
get a diverse customer base of huge clients. And these are some of the most valuable businesses.
Is if you can get 10 or 20 or 100 whales, then everything's based on percentage of revenue.
Whale is relative. If you get Google as a customer, they're a whale. But if you have Google and you
have Amazon and you have Netflix, all the other big companies, then all of a sudden they're just
little fishies too. It's just you have a way bigger pond for your fishies to be in. And so the idea is
that you want to have no one customer be greater than 20% of your revenue.
Ideally, for me, I don't like anyone more than 5% of our revenue.
Just from a personal level, I don't like feeling like I'll use the language you came to
mind.
I don't want to be someone's bitch.
As much as the short-term revenue of having a whale come along, sometimes these guys can
cannonball and create too big of a wave in your business that might actually sink your shit.
And so the risk that we're trying to address here is what if one customer leaves?
So let's say you've got $100, whatever you can put whatever zero as you want on this.
All right. This is your business today, and this is your profit. Cool. I told you that what if a whale
is 30% of your business? Here's Mr. Whale. It's like a worm. Anyways, now if Mr. Whale leaves,
so does your profit. And then all of a sudden, you're breaking even. So even though the customer
was only 20% of your business, it might be 100% of your profit. And so if you can lose 100%
of your profit by losing one customer, that's super risky.
And so that is why I prefer to keep it at 5% or less of all my revenue coming from one specific client or customer.
I think there's two big decisions you have to make when you're thinking about diversified customer base.
One is, do you take the whale on to begin with?
Because it may create too many waves in your business that you basically have to create a business around the whale, that if the whale leaves, you then are left with all these costs that would sink the business if you didn't have them.
So you become really reliant on them.
So decision one is whether you take the whale on.
Decision two is that if you take the whale on, are you going to then go get more minnows or you're going to go get more whales?
Because it might make sense if you say, hey, strategically, I think it makes sense for us to go upmarket,
go after higher value customers and have fewer of them.
And so I'm willing to build this infrastructure for this one customer so that I can have 10 more of them.
That makes sense.
And so if you said this is my business, this is my avatar, this is my niche, this is what I'm going after,
then a big part of focus means saying no.
And sometimes a big, shiny whale is just another woman in the red dress who's trying to distract you from your ultimate goal.
because fundamentally, if you had a business that just served that one avatar, you should just go 10xit.
This will create all of these difficulties that will distract you from the main thing.
I don't think there's anything else to add here. So let's stick this puppy on diverse customer base.
Foreat, this is my forearm. And my bison, looking good.
Forearm piece in reality. Number seven, automated metric tracking.
Every business needs to have metrics because if you don't have data, you can't make good decisions.
And you'd be amazed how much smarter you seem if you have data to support what you do.
It's one of the first things that we do when we bring out a portfolio company is get this.
stuff in place so that we can make better decisions for the future and ultimately give that data
to an investor who might ultimately want to buy it for significantly higher multiple in the future.
So what I'm going to do is demonstrate this in the real world to give you an example and call my
director of brand. This could go horribly wrong. What's up? All right, pop quiz test. Number one,
how many registrations do we have right now for the book launch event? We have almost 292,000.
That sounds nice. Thank you guys. How many?
how many affiliates, how many people are promoting the book on our behalf? As of yesterday,
as of this morning? As of this morning. So 10,800 as of this morning. All right,
that's, you know, we're two hours away from that real time stat. So we'll,
there you go. 10,813. Okay. Thanks, man. I appreciate you. So that idea is automated metric
tracking. And so he would only be able to say that if he actually had dashboards in front of him,
that would allow him to answer those questions. If he didn't, he'd have to be like, I'll have to
get that to you tomorrow and I'll have to look at three different Google sheets and then count
manually how many people are doing X, Y, and Z, right? And the thing is, is that the more difficult
it is to collect data and report on data, the less data you end up reporting on, which means that
you have few and fewer pieces to make decisions off of. And so I'm often amazed by how little data
is collected in most businesses, because I'm like, how are you making any decisions? And for the
most part, the answer is they're just guessing, which is a terrible way to make decisions.
So one of the best and most important hires you can have and things you can do is switch
from a big conglomeration of Google Sheets
to actually fully integrating some sort of CRM in your business.
And this is where the things like Salesforce and HubSpot
and some of these other platforms exist
is to help small businesses become medium-sized businesses.
It's worth paying well to get it implemented in the business
so you know data of what's going on in real time
so you can make real-time decisions.
Automated metric tracking affects how many customers you get,
lifetime gross profit per customer,
and the risk associated,
with everything because if you don't have tracked metrics,
you won't know what your lifetime growth profit is.
You won't know where your customers are coming from
or what percentage of revenue each customer is worth
or what your cost per lead is.
And so if you don't know what the basics are,
then how can you make the advanced moves?
If you don't even know what the basics are,
how do you improve them?
And so the first thing if you wanna do a growth business
is know what current state is.
But again, I'm amazed at how many people
don't even know what's going on in their own business.
I'm like, hey, how much profit do you make that something?
They're like, I don't know.
I'm like, that's Friday.
You should know these things.
You can tell how skilled someone is,
at anything based on the number and quality of the metrics they track. A lot of like marketing
founders, pure really good promoters are like, oh, our product's amazing. And I'm like, cool,
what's your time to value? What's your turn? What's your onboarding process? And I start collecting,
you know, asking just for stats around product. And they're like, we have a low chargeback rate.
And I'm like, that is not what a good product means. If I said, hey, what's your cost for impression?
What's your cost for lead? What's your conversion rate? And they're like, oh, I got that, that, that, that.
you need to be as in depth about your product and your delivery as you are about your acquisition.
And if you know the quality and quantitative stats on the front end, you should be paired
in terms of how nuanced you are on the back end because the people who are really good are that
nuanced. And that is my biggest indicator, if I'm interviewing for roles, by the way, of knowing
if somebody is good or not, if I'm interviewing for a sales manager, for example, and I say,
hey, you know, what metrics you'd be tracking? He's like, I like to go by feel, you know, manage
the vibe of the team. I'm like, that's not bad. That's fine. But like, what metrics do you
track. And they're like, you know, closing percentage and, you know, cash collected. I'll be like,
okay, cool, that's a great start. Versus I have a guy who comes on and says, a show rates,
I like to count offer percentage. I like to count what types of objections were getting on our
nose. I like to count number of calls required to close. I like to have cash collected. I like to have
cash as a percentage of total ticket value. I like to know what my speed to contact is.
I like to know what my speed to close is in terms of first contact until they close.
of a sudden, I'm like, okay, this guy gets it. He's looking at a number of different variables
that are highly quantitative so that he can then make far more targeted improvements in the process
so that we can make more sales. This is actually supposed to be for another butt. I'm going to
show you this in real time. So this was actually a before and after of one of our portfolio
companies. And so what we did, we said, hey, let's track data. And so then we started tracking data.
And then they were like, oh gosh, these are our stats. And we're like, okay, cool. Now let's improve it.
So to make these improvements, for example, for the show rate, we have a huge checklist of like
22 things that we do.
Many of them are automated that we can do to increase show rates.
And boom, 50 to 70%.
Now, you might think, oh, that's a 20% improvement.
That's not a 20% improvement.
That's a 40% improvement on the original number.
So like, wow, that contributed a lot here.
From close rate, we then started going through our drilling process to train closers and our
scripting process so that we can get to the sale faster so we can close a higher percentage
of people.
and that showed in the numbers.
So from an improvement perspective, this was 14%,
but 14% of 27 is a 50% improvement in sales.
And then the bottom is the end result.
So one of the things that I have is no silver bullets, many golden babies.
It's a game of incremental improvements.
For us at Acquisition.com, because we work with the same types of companies,
we know what it takes to improve show rates.
Like we have all the best practices,
and we just say, here's the 22 things we do,
and we're going to implement all of them one by one,
and that's the result.
With closed rates, we're like,
These are all the things that we have to do in the business, and one by one, we tick them off.
And so it becomes very clear what the next step is, because you know, if you do all of those
things, the numbers will go up.
Why do we feel that way?
Because we have evidence.
So number one, pick the platform that you want to start tracking the data.
Number two, pick the data.
Like, what data do you want to actually track?
Some people call it KPIs, I don't really care.
Pick the data that you want to track.
Number three, person.
So you're usually going to have somebody who's going to be implementing this platform
in your business.
Someone needs to own it.
You need to have one, chest to poke or throat to choke or whatever way you want to say it.
And then four, game plan.
And the way that we do this is we operate off the theory of constraints, which is we look at these numbers, right?
So let's say that we had just collected.
So we picked our platform, we picked it the data that we wanted to pick, and we had somebody who's making sure that this is happening.
Okay, cool.
Which of these do I feel like we have the highest likelihood of improving the fastest, right?
This is going to be the constraint of the business.
And the way that you see what the constraint is, you can add 5% or a fixed percentage to any of them and see which one of those of those of those will actually yield the most throughput.
Meaning if I add 5% here, 5% here, 5% here, 5% here, which of those 5% here?
So increases actually change this number the most.
And the answer in this instance would be this one, which is the lowest number.
So if I'm looking at this, and my next lowest number would be cash collected,
and the number after that would be show rate.
And so I would usually attack it in that order so that I could have the biggest bank for the buck
for the things that I do.
Which one of these is the smallest?
That's the one where if I make an incremental change, it'll actually yield the most outcome.
Forearm.
We're getting close.
We've got ourselves a nice corner piece of the Mozy Lisa, which is high cash, profitable,
growing with a good story.
So let's do a little physics lesson.
Sir Isaac Newton's first law of physics
was an object at rest
will remain at rest, and an object
in motion will remain in motion
until another force
is acted upon it. And so it's much
the same with businesses. You want one that's already
in motion because you know
that it's more likely that a growing business
will continue to grow than a business that's not growing
will start growing. Because you have to exert force
to a business that isn't moving
in order to get it to move.
Stay.
A business that has high cash
means that it kicks off cash in excess of what it needs
to reinvest in the business to remain competitive and grow.
The second is that it is profitable.
Now, you can have a profitable business
that doesn't create a lot of cash flow.
For example, if I deliver services
and I have to wait 90 days in order to get paid,
then I might be profitable on paper,
but not produce a lot of cash,
because by the time that cash hits,
I have new liabilities that I'm incurring.
And growing is that a business gets bigger
every month or every year, right?
Pretty simple there.
And ideally with a story.
Because if you have a story, investors like anybody else are customers,
and they like to hear stories as well.
So let me give you a very complex visual of what this looks like.
You want a business that goes like this and not like this.
I'm not saying that a company cannot be valuable if it doesn't have a high nefrey
cash or it's not profitable.
HubSpot, for example, I'm pretty sure it isn't profitable and it's a public traded
company worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
I also try to cater my content to my audience, which is 99% of business.
owners aren't Netflix or aren't HubSpot or aren't venture backed with tons of money that are
hyper-scaling. Most of them are like us are self-funded in one way or another or have friends and
family who invested in their business to help them grow. And those people have lives. And I will
say this is that we hear all of the Netflix stories and the HubSpot stories, but we don't see
the graveyard of the many others that didn't make any cash flow for six years, seven years,
and then never quite became HubSpot.
And so the founder spent seven years of their lives,
never really took a paycheck out of the business,
and then ended up with nothing.
And so for me, especially if I'm investing in a business,
I'm a cash flow investor.
I want to see how much money does this thing kick off
after we have to reinvest in the business
to keep it competitive.
And even with companies that have high demands on capital,
I'll give an example.
Like we love brick and mortar businesses.
So like, by the way, if you have brick and mortar chain,
we crush those.
Those have very consistent returns on capital,
meaning it cost me $100,000 to open a facility.
I make $500,000 a year and profit back.
And then I would say, okay, cool.
Well, that's an amazing return on capital.
How can we take that 500 and then open five?
And even in those situations, with an insane return on capital, I would still usually
recommend that the founder take a fixed amount out of the business on a monthly basis to
de-risk them.
Now, it's a 100% personal choice because risk and how much you're willing to expose yourself
to is personal.
But for me, I'll tell you a quick story.
When I had my gyms, I invested 100% of all my profit
to opening locations.
I then decided after a few years
that I didn't wanna be in the gym business
in that way anymore.
And so then I basically fire sold my gyms
to then start gym launch.
And so I could have made a lot more profit
during that period of time.
And I could have sold them for a lot more than I did,
but because when I wanted to sell them,
I wanted to get rid of them.
And so I think in total, I think it made like $250,
or $300,000 from the sale of six gyms,
which,
is not a ton of money. I'd put way more that just into building the gyms. I encourage founders to
take cash out. I still prefer to put human first and say, I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of
growth for you to like take care of your family. For example, we started talking to a company
called We Whiten, which is a teeth whiting chain. They had 32 locations. By the time we actually
ended up closing the deal, I think this is probably like four months, um, end to end,
which is actually pretty decent in terms of timelines. They had grown by 30% in that period of time.
right? And this is what made them attractive to us as an investor, is that they had, they were high cash flow,
they were profitable, and they were growing, and they had a cool story about how they wanted to
continue to see growth. And this is my bread and butter. And I will be excited to tell you what
happens in 12 months with these guys, because I'm very confident about our playbook. But it doesn't
cost a ton of money to open a teeth whitening studio relative to the amount of profit that they kick off.
And so because of that arbitrage, we get really good returns on capital. Meaning, instead of
investing in the stock market and putting, you know, $100 in and getting $10 back, I could put $100 in here.
And because of also how quickly they become profitable, like how quickly can I pay off a new location?
Well, I could pay off a location in two months. Okay. Well, then that means that I can compound
six times in one year off of one location. Now, when you have 32 locations, and that's why they have
so many so quick, it can get really big, really fast.
So when you're building a story for a company,
you usually want to track the story to a trend,
meaning like AI is a trend right now.
Here's how AI will help us or how AI will not affect us
is a great way to demonstrate a story around
why somebody should expect to continue to see growth in the business.
So like if I have a haircut chain,
I could probably make a strong argument
that people are going to still need to get their haircut.
Now, if I'm in a design firm,
I might have a harder time arguing
that AI is going to not affect my business,
Or, flip side, I am going to try to put myself out of business and say, we're fully leaning into AI and we've already cut headcount by 50% and 10x productivity using these tools.
And so now we're even more profitable than we were before with higher cash flow.
So the idea is you want to track the trends that you align with that will give you tailwinds to get one of these stories and not one of these.
I'm going to give a little nug here.
One of the first things, I'm going to give you a little insider secret that I do when I go into a brick and mortar chain,
probably my favorite thing to invest in,
is I look at their whole product suite.
So that means the products and services
that they sell out of the facility.
And I'm gonna look at two things.
I'm gonna look at a gross profit
and then I'm gonna look at gross margin.
So what's the percentage, right?
Those are the same thing, once a percentage,
once an absolute amount.
And in general, I look at what percentage of our sales
are coming from each of our products.
And then I think, okay, this one has the highest gross
profit and the second highest gross margin, but we sell it the fifth most often. How can I
recombine these things so that it becomes the first thing that we sell most commonly in the highest
volume? And sometimes just making these types of tweaks can make massive differences in the amount
of profitability and cash flow the company generates. And so this is just one golden BB that we do in the
process. If you don't know what your gross profit is and your gross margin is on every product you sell
and what percentage of your sales come from each, do that.
And then reorganize your sales process to emphasize the ones that give you the most gross
profit and gross margin and maybe consider downregulating some of the ones that don't.
Weird green tile, high cash flow profitable story of growth.
Ack it.
Next tile, audit ready financials.
I'm going to make this one a little bit shorter because I know this is where people's eyes glaze over.
But if you think about audit ready financials from a risk perspective, if I'm a buyer
and you say this is what your profit is,
and I have no way of proving that that's your profit.
You can just make up a number.
If you have an audit-ready financial,
it means that a third party will come in
and go through all your numbers.
They will calculate their own measure of profit,
and it matches yours.
If that's the case, then you have audit-ready financials.
A lot of times founders think that their profit
is a lot higher than it really is.
Their banker or their accountant oftentimes works for them.
And as crazy as it sounds,
if you make the profit look better for the founder,
they are happier with you.
Having a third party or making books that are third party ready for audit and getting something called a quality of earnings
allows you to say to an investor, these have been validated.
This is like a blue checkmark in terms of this is really what I say it is.
So let's talk about this in levels.
Level one, have financials in general.
All right?
This sounds silly.
And in the beginning, oftentimes you're just going to outsource it.
You're going to have a third party who's an accountant or a bookkeeper in the beginning before you have an accountant who's just going to handle your books.
Number two is you're going to actually upgrade to an accountant.
who's going to be doing this.
And oftentimes, this comes when you go from cash-based accounting to GAAP,
which just stands for generally accepted accounting principles.
That's all it is, right?
Cash is just money in, money out.
So if I sell a three-month contract for 30 grand,
and I collect 30 grand today,
cash-based accounting shows that we had $30,000 in revenue today.
Gap says that we have $10,000 in revenue today,
as it's recognized, over three months,
and then $10,000 next month, $10,000 the month after.
right? And so Gap smooths out a company's financials, but Gap accrues for the cost and the revenue
throughout the year so that you can see over year over a year how much money is increasing,
right? It makes it easier to analyze the business. Level three of this is that you have audit
ready financials. And this could be in-house or out-of-house that you get this set up.
I've switched my perspective on this. I used to be all about in-house accounting and in-house
financials. Now you do need somebody who's in-charge of that function.
But it just depends a lot on the business.
If you have a service business that doesn't require a lot of capital expense,
meaning you have to invest money and forecast cash flow, thing like that,
you don't need as advanced of a person for the business.
If you have something that's like manufacturing,
you need a very good financial arm because they have to manage cash flow out
to collect goods, invoices that are coming from customers as things are getting delivered,
payroll in between, and you're managing a lot of moving parts
while also putting out orders for six months from now for stuff
that you know you're going to need in forecast. So like it depends on the needs of the business,
but I will say this. One of our portfolio companies scaled for three years, they went from,
you know, a couple million dollars a year to a couple million dollars a month. And we got to this
plateau point and I was talking to the CEO. And he's like, I just don't know where the profit's
going. Like I just, I don't know if I have enough cash to open more locations or not. And I just like,
how many should I be opening? He's like, I'm just really struggling right now. And I was like,
okay, I want you to pause, I want you to feel this feeling right now. I was like, it's because
you don't know, you don't recognize this pattern, and I want you to recognize for the rest of your
life, which is the feeling you have right now is a lack of finance. Like, you don't have the finance
function built out, and you don't have the support of finance leaders, because if you did,
then you would know what percentage of cash flow you could put towards it and how many locations
you could have given the growth rate that you want. But since you don't know, that lack of knowledge,
that feeling of uncertainty is because you don't have that thing. It would be the same as like,
I don't know where my next customer is coming from. It's like, you're like,
you have a lack of the marketing function.
And I bring this up because you may feel this right now,
and if you feel that way, it might be because you're missing this.
I know this one is the most boring.
But it's important, and you will literally not sell your business for anything that's
material if you do not have this.
Audit ready financials.
Tile number 10, $5 million plus in EBITA.
All right.
So the reason that this particular number is important is that most institutional investors
do not want to buy companies that are smaller than this.
And that's usually because to get to $5 million plus an EBDA,
and EBTA is just a fancy word for profit for sake of a day.
Because usually to get $5 million plus an EBITA,
you do have a professional management team.
It's not common that you'll be able to do that.
Not common, not saying it's impossible.
It's just not common to have a company that is doing that kind of profit
and doesn't have a true management team that can run without the owner.
All right?
And so this is more of a volume or size requirement.
Like you might have all of the other ones and be at $1 million,
and you're just not going to get a great multiple
because it's just not big enough.
Like, it's interesting because in business,
it's the reverse of like most other things.
So if you buy one vacuum cleaner, it costs X.
But if you buy a thousand vacuum cleaners,
you get a discount.
In businesses, it's the reverse,
which is if you make a million dollars in profit per year
versus $100 billion in profit,
you get a premium because you've already done the work
of consolidating all that profit,
which makes it available to bigger investors
who have bigger checks to allocate.
When you have a billion dollars,
you're never going to buy a million dollar business.
Like the time it takes free to even analyze the business is not worth the time and I'll tell you a fun secret
It takes about as much effort to help grow a one million dollar business as it does to help grow a $20 million
business same effort arguably less because you have more of an infrastructure which is why people buy bigger stuff
Now just to give you some stats around this
The s and p-500 this is the P is the price-to-earnings ratio so the multiple all right
Has has has gone from 12x to 18-x historically now you can see this big jump now and right now I think it's somewhere on
23, like today. So this is just until 2020. And then today, it's 23. All right. And so that means
that if you made a hundred million dollars in EBITDA, then you'd have a $2.3 billion valuation
as a company. All right. And the reason I think this is so important is that a lot of small
business owners overestimate the value of their business. Like to them, because they're friends,
amongst their friends, they're the richest people. They own a business that makes money.
So they're like, this is a big thing. But in the world of business,
when you're compared to Google,
any, mini, mini, mini, many, very tiny, right?
Like, that's what they make in the first, like, minute of the day, right,
is your entire year's revenue.
And so, again, it's context.
And I share this stuff because I made these mistakes, too.
And I mistook the fact that I put years of time and effort into a business
for it being valuable, which it wasn't, my first ones.
All right?
So you might be thinking, well, how long does it take to improve this stuff?
Like, if I'm at a million or I met two million, like, how long does it take to improve?
Well, if you have the right tools and systems and the right plan, the right who, the what, and the how, you can get the right outcome pretty quickly.
So actually, I actually have my team print out our stats for this. So our portfolio company on average, within the first 12 months, we increase revenue by 1.8x on average. So if you're making 10 million, by the end of 12 months, you're making 18 million. Not bad.
profit increases by 3.01x on average. So you're making $2 million in profit at the beginning,
12 months later, you're at 6.03. There we go, a million dollars of your own profit. Now, think about
this. And I'm going to show you a little something that I haven't talked about publicly.
The reason that I look for companies that are at least a million, usually two at minimum,
is that most of the companies that I like taking on are in that two to five to six range.
The reason for that is because I can come in and do the things that I know.
I can execute our show list checklist, our closing checklist, our marketing checks,
or content checklist like this, right?
Into a business, we already know works, and then go from $4 million to $10 or $11 in profit.
And from an enterprise value perspective, that $4 million, now it depends on all the other
factors we talked about, because remember, you can have a $4 million.
$4 million profit business that's worth zero, right? Or a $1 million profit business that's worth
$40 million, it really depends, right? But realistically, most of those businesses, like if you look
at BIS by sell, the average small business trades at two times earnings. So you see all these
headlines of like 44 and 300 dead and they make headlines because they are the exception. They are
not common. Like the amount of billion dollar companies that exist out there is like a thousand.
Like there's not a lot of them, right? And so the idea here,
is understanding reality, which is that if you have a local dry cleaning store and you make
$500,000 a year, you probably would be worth in total a million dollars.
That's just the data.
And that means that's the average.
I mean, half of them are below that.
And half of them are above that, but half them are below that.
So you might be trading it one times.
And that's not that in common, which is why getting size is so important when you're talking
about valuations for a business.
I like this size because I can quickly go from something that my money.
might be worth $5 million or not even have value to quickly plug these holes that I'm talking about
and then unlock $50, $100 million of value.
And so I talk about like I hit my net worth as $100 million by age 32.
I don't count any of our portfolio companies in that value.
That's just like money I've extracted from what we have.
All right, stuff that actually has been traded on the marketplace, not companies that have
equity value in store that I could sell. Now, maybe like, well, is it like a one-trick thing?
Not really, because it looks like within the first 24 months, so two years, the average revenue
increase goes to 2.8x on average, and the average profit increase is 4.7x on average. So that $2 million
profit company becomes a $9.4 million EBIT of business. Think about the value difference here.
Maybe it was worth $6 million when we came into it.
And two years later, at nine, let's say it trades at $7.
Right.
So that would be worth $63 million.
And like, this is how Uncle Alex gets rich, right?
But also how our partners, how the people that we, you know, the companies we invest in,
the founders also unlock that kind of wealth too.
And so like that is fundamentally just real data on context of how value
be unlocked. And I told you about the Wiiiden thing. I'm excited. I think we will beat those
numbers with Wiiaten. But all that to say, if you know what to do, then it just comes down to
doing it. And a lot of people spend a lot of effort on things that are not. Remember this guy.
A lot of people spend a lot of effort on things that are not the bottleneck. Now, this was an example
of, I think, a month difference or two months difference. Well, it's like, boom, well, that's a double.
Great. What are we going to do for the next 22 months? Right. Well, we're going to work on other
parts of the business. This is just the sales and show rate stuff. And so that's how we think about
things. And we particularly, and we've become more and more disciplined with this, is that we only go
after businesses that we're like, oh yeah, like we know exactly what we're going to do so that we can
mitigate our risk. Because if I know that I have like six plays that are going to immediately 10x
the business, now one won't 10x, but I'm like, that'll double, that'll go up 50%, that'll double,
and then that'll go up 50%. Well, just guess what?
Just created it, right?
If those multipliers add up.
If not, you get the point.
All right.
And so, big picture, zooming all the way back out,
if you have a company and you want to make it more valuable,
you need to sell more customers, you need to make them worth more,
and you need to make it more likely that it continues to happen without you.
Which is why when you're making your MoseLisa masterpiece with your business,
getting a caps deltoid, aka getting big enough, and having $5 million plus in EBITA makes you a
significantly more valuable company.
And when you check each of those 10 boxes, you make the business masterpiece that can
create the generational wealth you ultimately had.
And it's not about selling more.
It's not about making them worth more.
It's about making sure that those never stop happening.
And it doesn't matter if your business looks like this or like this or like this, because
what we look at is it's like people.
paint by numbers. And so if we see that this one and this one are missing, then we say,
great, we're going to go unlock $10 million in value by putting these right back in. And it might
be that we need to add an acquisition channel and we need to get size big enough. Or we might find
out we need to increase the cash flow of this business and we might have to get automated metric
tracking in place. Whatever the holes in the painting are, the nice thing is that the end result
always looks the same. And so you might have your holy version of this painting and as long as you
know what this painting looks like and this is the value that we end up bringing it at Acquisition.com
is we know what the Mosey, Mosey Ministerpiece. God, Mosey Lisa looks like. This is ridiculous.
All right. We know what the Mosey Lisa looks like and all we have to do is paint by colors to fill in the gaps.
And that's how we made the company's a lot more value.
