The Game with Alex Hormozi - The Belief System | Ep 608

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

Watch the YouTube video of this episode HEREBelieve every word you say. Today, Alex (@AlexHormozi) talks about the belief system entrepreneurs need when making sales, running the business, and the min...dset they need to become successful. And it all starts with asking “why”...Welcome to The Game w/Alex Hormozi, hosted by entrepreneur, founder, investor, author, public speaker, and content creator Alex Hormozi. On this podcast you’ll hear how to get more customers, make more profit per customer, how to keep them longer, and the many failures and lessons Alex has learned on his path from $100M to $1B in net worth.Timestamps:(1:43) - Selling skill comes with conviction and understanding prospects(3:03) - 1st equation: sales skill multiplied by belief extent(5:18) - 2nd equation: revolves around work ethic(8:33) - Make a perspective shift for authentic communication(8:47) - If you don't believe, convincing others and making sales is difficultFollow Alex Hormozi’s Socials:LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Acquisition(This episode is a re-run. Original airdate was on July 6, 2021)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How many times would you follow up with yourself to get yourself to do that thing or do that action or make that investment? A lot. And it's because you truly believe that it would solve your prospects problem and you have pure conviction that what you are selling them, the investment, the opportunity, the whatever it is, is 100% going to work. The wealthiest people in the world see business as a game. This podcast, The Game, is my attempt at documenting the lessons I've learned on my way to building acquisition.com into a billion dollar portfolio. My hope is that you use the lessons to grow your business and maybe someday soon, partner with us to get to $100 million in beyond. I hope you share and enjoy. I'm going to talk to how to close a higher percentage of deals and how to close more deals overall.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And it's all sent around a single concept, which is the belief continuum. And so if you think about this visual right, I've got your salesman here and you've got your prospect here, right? And you see this bubble that I put over there. The prospect has no bubble inside. It's completely empty. And they might have a negative bubble as well. And then you've got the salesman who's got his belief bubble. So many people like to think, like, do you believe in what you are selling, right?
Starting point is 00:01:06 they ask the question as though it's a binary answer. Yes or no, I believe or I don't believe. But it would be much more accurate to say, to what extent do you believe in? Right? Because belief is not a binary question. It is a continuum. It is how much do you believe in what you are selling? Because if you thoroughly 100% believe with all of your heart and mind that what you are selling is true, I guarantee you that you will sell significantly more. And so what I want to show you is these two equations that I wrote down as simple equations for how to actually sell. And so many people focus, I would say a disproportionate amount of people focus on the skill of selling. And there absolutely is a skill to sales.
Starting point is 00:01:41 You have to know exactly what to say. You have to know how to say. But you can shortcut that path to success by having conviction. And the way that you have conviction is by, A, dramatically understanding the needs of your prospects so that when you are talking to somebody, you know exactly what their problem is so that if your product perfectly matches their problem, you can have conviction. in order to sell it. Most salespeople don't even listen to the prospect at all and simply want to deliver their pitch, which inherently means that they can't believe in the product that much
Starting point is 00:02:12 because they're not even thinking about whether it solves the problem for the prospect. Because you can't be convicted that it's going to solve the problem if you don't even know what the problem is. And so they haven't taken any time to understand the prospect. Most sales training should be is currently focused on educating salesmen around the product when it should be most of the time focused on educating the salesman around the prospect and their problems, not the product. All right. Key understanding shift that has to happen when you're educating a sales team and or yourself,
Starting point is 00:02:42 especially if you're entering a market that you are not the avatar, right? One of the reasons that many successful businesses happen from somebody who suffered from a paid and then went to go solve it for themselves and then ended up solving it for other people is because they desperately and they so clearly understand the thoughts, needs, and pains of the prospect and they know how the product solves those problems, right? And so the first equation here is for an increasing closing percentage. And so if it's you that's selling or if it's a sale team that's selling, it's the skill of sales multiplied by the extent to which you believe. It is not, yes, I believe, no, I believe. This number can be a hundred, right? And the thing is, is that I believe that this number
Starting point is 00:03:23 of conviction can grow far higher than what skill can give you. You can be a very skilled salesman, say the skill of sales is one to 10, right? I'll put this on here, so everyone can see it. Let's say if skill of sales can be one to 10, I believe that your beliefs of around conviction can be one to 100, right? So even if your skill of sales is a two, you could have a huggy belief and I guarantee you that you will close because people can sense whether you believe what you are telling them is true. And they believe that what you were selling them is going to solve their problem, right? And so most people, most sales teams, most sales managers do not focus enough on this bubble, which is conviction, which is this part of the equation, right? If you think about
Starting point is 00:04:06 what sales is, it's fundamentally a transference of belief. And so how can you, how can you transfer an empty cup? How can you transfer a cup that is only one third full into another empty cup and expected to be over the threshold of the amount of belief that's necessary and that's required for a prospect to make a purchasing decision? Of course, no. right? And so we still try and get the person to say a certain thing or pause in this way or have this tonality or this emphasis and that is important, right? And there's definitely a place for that. You have to have the basis of sales in place. But a much, much bigger lever that is often and most underutilized or unutilized at all is the conviction or the extent to which the salesman believes
Starting point is 00:04:46 in what they are selling. And to what extent it can help solve the prospects problems. All right. And so that will influence the closing percentage of an individual or team. Hey, Mosin, a nation, quick break just to let you know that we've been starting to post on LinkedIn and want to connect with you. All right, so send me a connection request and note letting me know that you listen to the show and I will accept it. There's anyone you think that we should be connected with, tag them in one of my or layless posts and I will give you all the love in the world. All right. So let's get back to the show. The second piece is going to be the work effort, right? So a lot of people have probably seen really good closers versus really bad closers based on their closing percentage but also total number just closed.
Starting point is 00:05:29 personally, when you have somebody who has really high work ethic, then they can make up for a lower closing percentage by having more activity. So that means that they're falling up with their pipeline faster. They are following up more times, right? They're reaching out to people on their own in their own time to give themselves more opportunities, and they can compensate for a lower closing percentage by simply having more at bets, right? And so if you think about the expert salesman is having these two things together, which is you want to have a high closing percentage and you want to have lots of units sold. And so there's three variables here. You've got skill, you've got conviction, and you've got work ethic.
Starting point is 00:06:01 But conviction counts twice. Because if you believe that what you are selling is genuinely going to help people, you will follow up faster. You will follow up more religiously. You will follow up as though you were trying to help someone. And so let me ask you this question as a good mental thought process. If you could go back in time, let's say you could go back in time five years, and you could talk to yourself and say, hey, I want you to put 100% of the money that we have, right?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Now, mind you, you couldn't tell the person, that is you, your past self, that you are you in the future, right? So you can't say anything like that. But in this thought experiment, and you went back in time and you said, hey, we've got this money in the bank account. I want you to put 100% of money into this thing called Bitcoin, right? I want you to put 100% of money into something called Amazon. I want you to put all of that money into Tesla or whatever, right? Something that blew up over the last five years, all right? If you were to tell yourself that, let's say you were talking to you and you were like, I'm good, thanks, right how many times would you follow up with yourself to get yourself to do that thing or do that
Starting point is 00:07:04 action or make that investment a lot and it's because you truly believe that it would solve your prospects problem and you have pure conviction that what you are selling them the investment the opportunity that whatever it is is 100% going to work think about how you would approach that how many times would you follow up how convicted would you be when you spoke would you even be focused on the skill of selling or would you be focusing on how true what you say is? And if you can make that perspective shift and if you're a sales manager and you're trying to manage a sales team, I would implore you to focus way more of your time around the thing that counts twice in the equation of selling and creating great salespeople, which is the belief
Starting point is 00:07:44 to which the extent to which they believe what they are selling and to whom they are selling, then boring with the monotony of the skill, which don't get me wrong. It is very important to sell. there's lots of videos that you probably heard where I talked about the skill of sales. And I think when you rate this and you were in a forced multiplication standpoint, I don't think that they are acquitted. I don't think they are equivalent, right? And the proof that I have in this is that if you look at every single religious, you know, movement, you are selling something very hard to sell,
Starting point is 00:08:13 which is a completely new frame of view around the world. The people who believe this, many times they don't train them in the skill of selling. They just get them to believe wholeheartedly in what they are selling, right? And so if your salesman and your sales team are not drinking the Kool-Aid quite literally of the products that you sell or the services that you sell, then that is your problem, not whether or not they are clarifying the problem in the beginning. Now, they should because they should be listing and they should believe that what should make sure that the prospect is going to be best served by this, right? But big picture, if you fix this, everything else will happen. And I'll tell you this is the one last story around this. if you believed wholeheartedly and the solution that you are selling,
Starting point is 00:08:54 would you not then spend lots of time honing your skill? Probably, because you would want to help more people because you believe in the thing that you were selling them, right? Would you not, if you believe in this thing wholeheartedly, follow up with as many people as possible, be quick to respond because you know how much it's going to change their life, probably. And so I think that just like Simon's the next to start with why, I believe that the skill of sales is fundamentally a transference of belief.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And we do need to start with why for salespeople, because it is not a question of whether or not they believe. It is the question of to what extent do they believe. And if you can get that to 100, you will never have problems selling ever again.

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