The Game with Alex Hormozi - Why Unicorn Closes are Great | Ep 388

Episode Date: May 12, 2022

Unicorns exist in business! Today, Alex (@AlexHormozi) talks about what unicorn closes are and what makes them so great! Learn how to achieve a perfect unicorn sales close scenario for yourself!Welcom...e to The Game w/Alex Hormozi, hosted by entrepreneur, founder, investor, author, public speaker, and content creator Alex Hormozi. On this podcast you’ll hear how to get more customers, make more profit per customer, how to keep them longer, and the many failures and lessons Alex has learned on his path from $100M to $1B in net worth.Timestamps:(0:30) - What is close, to begin with?(1:11) - Controlling your tone is important(3:07) - The unicorn close(4:59) - 2 awesome follow-up questions(5:44) - It's normal to ask questions after they say "No"Follow Alex Hormozi’s Socials:LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Acquisition

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The goal with the obstacle overcome period of time is to isolate and resolve the issue, right? And then ask again. Welcome to the game where we talk about how to get more customers, how to make more per customer, and how to keep them longer, and the many failures and lessons we have learned along the way. I hope you enjoy and subscribe. I'm going to walk you through one of my favorite closes of all time for somebody who says, I need to think about it. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I can't make a decision today. All of those types of what I consider stalls. All right. And so this is a two-part close. and if you're like, well, what is a close? Fundamentally, a close is simply having a line of reasoning that you've already said before that just sheds light on the truth. Because fundamentally, there's no hacks to selling. It's simply, can I get this person to see reality for what it is rather than what they want it to be? All right. And so this is called the unicorn close into the one to ten clothes. Okay. And so the unicorn close is one of my favorite ones because I almost have jokes embedded in all of my closes. And I do that because it can be a high tension situation. And this person has had far fewer of these conversations than you are. And therefore, far more in a fight or flight like scenario.
Starting point is 00:01:06 And you always want to actively be de-escalating them, right? And that's what building the control of your tonality is important for, because if you can control your tone, you can control what they are hearing from you. Because how you say what you say matters far more than what you say. And I'm going to do a quick segment right now on this because I think it's important for this to make sense to you. because none of the obstacle overcomes that I'll ever teach you will work if your tone is wrong. So if I said, so there's two aspects of tone, right? You've got the cadence, right? Like how quickly you say what you say, you have the tone in terms of whether you go up or down, right? So how quickly you say it,
Starting point is 00:01:44 whether you'd go up or down in the tone of voice you're using, and then the emphasis, which is the pauses, on what word? So if I said, and I use this from Jason Flatling because I just love this sentence because it's so great to change the meaning. I didn't say he hit his wife. I didn't say, or I didn't say he hit his wife. I didn't say he hit his wife. I didn't say he hit his wife. I didn't say he hit his wife. I didn't say he hit his wife.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I didn't say he hit his wife. I didn't say he hit his wife. Notice the difference in what each of those sentences mean based on the emphasis, right? Now, from a tone standpoint, if my wife calls me, and she says, Alex, right? Or Alex, or Alex, right? The way that she says, my name indicates the meaning behind the statement. And so if you're closing someone, you want to slow down, because you don't want them to feel rushed. Number one, so your cadence slows to make sure they're understanding the words that you're saying right now. Number two, from a emphasis
Starting point is 00:02:54 standpoint, you want to make sure that you're emphasizing the words that will matter to them, right? Them being the focus of your conversation. And so I just wanted to have that as a quick precursor before I get into the unicorn of the one to ten. So the unicorn clothes I like a lot because I can make these jokes. The unicorn clothes, I like a lot because it gives me this opportunity to give the joke. So I say, hey, listen, if this were a beautiful unicorn of a program, right? It has everything you possibly could want. Would you do? Would you get started? Right. And the night thing about this is that you actually get them to say yes to a hypothetical. Okay. And so it's like, and they have to say yes to the hypothetical because that's why they're here today. If they say no,
Starting point is 00:03:32 then you have massive issues in the cell that you completely bombed earlier, right? But it's like, if this program were perfect, would you do it? They say yes. And you say, cool. So, and that's why I use the unicorn because it's like, yes, we're riding on the rainbow and it's this amazing perfect unicorn. Would you do it? They'll say yes. It's like, okay. So what's the difference besides the unicorn, right? Between what, as you currently understand it and the program as you see it right now in that perfect program, right? And so they will then tell you what is different about it. Okay. And that will allow you to isolate the issue and then fix it. Real quick, guys, if you can think about how you found this podcast, somebody probably tweeted it, told you about it,
Starting point is 00:04:07 shared it on Instagram or something like that. The only way this grows is through word of mouth. And so I don't run ads. I don't do sponsorships. I don't sell anything. My only ask is that you continue to pay it forward to whoever showed you or however you found out about this podcast that you do the exact same thing. So if it was a real thing, review. If it was a post, if you do that, it would mean the world to me and you'll throw some good karma out there for another entrepreneur. Now, if they're like, well, you know, I'm not really sure about that. It's like, cool. Well, then on a scat from 1 to 10, 10 being like, Alex, let's rock and roll, let's do this. I think this makes sense. And I want to move forward. Versus, Alex, you suck.
Starting point is 00:04:40 You're a terrible person. Like, your wife probably hates you. Your father thinks you're a failure. And I never want to see you again. Right. If I want to see everyone to 10, see another opportunity for a joke that we can make to keep the lightness of the situation high. Right. It's like, where are you, right, on that scale? Now, what's important is it doesn't matter what number they say. Because let's say they're a six, right, or a seven, which is usually what they'll put up. You know, sometimes I'm like I'm an eight. You're like, okay, cool. Then there's two awesome follow-up questions to this. Number one is what would make you a 10, right, which is just a different way of framing the unicorn close. The second is why aren't you a two? So you just, you just loop it
Starting point is 00:05:18 the other way and have them defend against the negative. And this is where they'll start selling you and why the program is great. after they say, well, this is the reason not a two. I'm like, well, that sounds like it's a reason to be a ton, right? And then you can move forward from there. Now, if they say, these are the reasons that it's not, then you can usually try and rectify the issue. But the goal with the obstacle overcome period of time is to isolate and resolve the issue, right? And then ask again, right? That's really fundamentally all obstacle overcomes are. It's like you are trying to isolate the issue and then overcome it and then circle back and ask again. So it's normal to ask
Starting point is 00:05:50 multiple times for the sale. Like, don't feel weird about it. Like, sales begin. when someone says no, right? If they, if they immediately say yes, like you're just, you're kind of just transacting, right? And so it's important to make sure that you are comfortable in the, the land that exists past no. And the no is not no forever. It's no for right now, because I just don't understand enough. Because fundamentally, the likely that the person improves their life and gets closer to their ideal goal, if they sign up with you versus not signing up with you, should be a very clear argument to make. Like, you cannot sign up
Starting point is 00:06:23 and you're guaranteed to not hit your goal because it's taking you this long to get to this point and you haven't hit it. Or option two is you do sign up and the likely that you hit your goal significantly are. Right? And so, like, what are we choosing here? Like, obviously, you want to increase the likelihood
Starting point is 00:06:35 to judge your goal, so let's go, right? And so those are my, those are two of my favorite closes when it comes to somebody who's like, I'm not sure. And a key point here is that we want to make this childlike curiosity. So if someone is not sure, it's like, huh, that's interesting. Why would think this and this? Not, here's why you're
Starting point is 00:06:55 wrong. And I'm going to make an argument to prove to you because if you prove them wrong, you both lose. It has to be their idea. It's the only way to get somebody to think something is their idea is to ask them questions that leave them there. And the only way to do that is to have the rapport and maintain the rapport through the clothes. All right. And this is where a lot of people lose rapport is in the close because they feel personally affronted, right? And it's not about you. And that's the thing. Like sales is not about you at all. If anything, it's the most selfless job in the world because you have to make it all about them. And everything you talk about has to be in their terms, which is why some of the things that people mess up is like, well, we're so great, we're so
Starting point is 00:07:27 amazing. We spend all the time to sell beefing up why they're amazing. And the person only cares about themselves. So you just have to always talk about them. And they will love talking to you. Okay. And so those are two of my favorite. I have a ton of closes that we use for how to overcome like I need to think about it. But those are two of my favorites because it just gives you such easy ammunition. One is what would make this perfect compared to what it is today. And then why aren't you lower on the on the scale like why don't you believe in this even less than you currently do and we have jokes that are woven into both the unicorn and the one to ten because it's amazing and also i'm a terrible person my father hates me and i'm responsible for climate change
Starting point is 00:08:02 that you can get them to laugh again and it keeps the brevity light and keeping awesome bye

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