The Gargle - Infinite monkeys | Dream chats | Cheese heist

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

Laura Davis and Joz Norris join host Alice Fraser for a very-much-politics-free episode 181 of The Gargle.🐒 Infinite monkeys💭 Dream chats🧀 Cheese heist✝️ Vatican mascot💊 ReviewsWatch on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@BuglePodcastSupport Bugle podcasts here https://www.thebuglepodcast.com/donateWritten by Alice Fraser, Laura Davis and Joz NorrisProduced by Ped Hunter, with executive production from Chris SkinnerHOW TO SUPPORT THE GARGLE- Keep The Gargle alive and well by joining Team Bugle with a one-off payment, or become a Team Bugler or Super Bugler to receive extra bonus treats!https://www.thebuglepodcast.com/donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I just went past a sign today that said live bees bees bees bees. design today that said live bees, bees, bees, bees. That sounds like a trap designed to catch me quite specifically. It was, it was at the, I took my child to the ginger factory in Buderham. Whoa. They process it into factories. It's a power plant. Um, but it's, it's a very interesting combination of like,

somebody's put a fair bit of money into like large plastic creatures and things to make it seem child friendly. But then you go on like the ginger train, which just goes past some rakes and stuff. Yeah, the ginger rakes. Just some old rusty old farm machinery in the corner, because ginger farming isn't that exciting. Other than the live bees, bees, bees exhibit, which is just the train going past some bees. I want to go to this place. Where is this? It's a, it's a Butterham, the ginger ginger factory non-spawn. It's an unusual combination of very flashy and very down to earth and I enjoy it immensely. But that brings us to this week's top story, which is the heartbreaking news.

I'm sure you've been following it. Revolutionary news in the news this week that monkeys are probably never going to type Shakespeare. Laura Davis, you have typed the word monkey before. Can you unpack this story for us? I love this story. I really enjoy it because it's people in properly, you know, physicists, statisticians, presumably properly investigating the age old truth that an infinite

number of monkeys typing on an infinite number of typewriters would eventually accidentally, probably write the works of Shakespeare. That is just one of those things that has always sounded not true. The whole point of that is you say it to people and they go, no, that can't possibly be true. And then some asshole goes, yeah, no, actually it's true. If you know science, it's true. And I really liked the idea that it's just pissed off enough scientists who've

gone, actually it just, it just can't be true and proved every single person's gut reaction to that fact, correct? But I mean, it's sort of predicated on a false premise, right? Which is that there can never be infinite monkeys. Yes. And their crucial linchpin in demolishing this assumption has been that we don't have an infinite universe. Essentially, in the time that that would take for it to be statistically possible, the entire universe would have entropied itself into oblivion.

Yeah, well, it's that very sensible dad approach to hyperbole, which is you go, if infinite monkeys were typing on infinite calculators for an infinite amount of time, they would come up with Shakespeare and they're like, how many monkeys can there be actually, there's about 200,000 chimpanzees. And they're just, just bringing you back down to earth. I'm annoyed by it. I'm annoyed by this study, because I quite like the infinite monkey thing. And I think they're trying to

take the wonder out of it. Because I don't think anyone who's ever said, if you if you have infinite time and infinite monkeys, then they'll nobody actually thinks that that's real. Because the whole point of it is to like it's like an imaginative illustration of what infinity is. And you hear it and you go, Whoa, that's crazy. Infinity is so big. And the idea that some scientists have spent some money to be like, no, the monkey would die or the universe would die. But nobody's actually proposing it. The thing that really annoys me about it, I don't think they've said because of the heat death of the universe, that's the thing that will stop it is that before any monkey will do it, the universe will die. But I also think they're ignoring the

bigger kind of factual problem of whether this would actually happen, which is that the monkey wouldn't do it. The monkey would get bored. But never mind the idea that the monkey would die or the universe would die if you actually sat a monkey down and went type Shakespeare there would just be a point I don't know how long but you would inevitably reach point where the monkeys are not doing that I'll go and like in a tree I mean infinite monkeys it also requires the premise of infinite monkeys typing infinitely requires no evolution on the part of the monkeys. Yeah, you're right. Getting monkeys to type in towards the goal of getting monkeys to type

Shakespeare words, that'd be like some pretty brutal evolutionary incentives of being applied. Eventually, it's going to evolve into a human and one of those humans will be Shakespeare. So that will do it. That's how it happens. I find the whole theory quite sad because I find it, like the amount of time it would take for a monkey to eventually come up with the works of Shakespeare, I find it so sad that it would do that after billions of years and then somebody would go, you know, someone's already done that. But that's already, that's Shakespeare. You've stolen that. He'd be livid. Absolutely livid. You get a copyright strike. Yeah, cease and desist. Oh my

God, that took me infinite time. But I mean, also, you know, you can't have infinite monkeys, because where does everything else go? Like, it's just a universe of infinite. If the universe is infinite, then it's all monkeys at that point, where do the typewriters fit? You've got to dismantle some of the atoms from the typewriter in order to create monkeys. I mean, I can see that it doesn't hold up. Factually, I think it's mad that we needed a scientific study funded and conducted for us to go, oh, yeah, wouldn't wouldn't happen. I like imagining.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's not meant to hold up. I don't even think it holds up morally. Just as a metaphor, I think it's terrible. It's cruel. It's cruel. Yeah. It's deeply- And a monkey already did. A monkey already did evolve.

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can you unpack this story for us? Yeah, so this is a California based tech startup, they're all over there, aren't they? They love it. I think they're having a big moment. California tech, is it? Right. Yeah. In the soil. So there's a company that believes that they have created the first instance of like a messaging within dreams. But their example about I was trying to work out what they actually did. And they seem to have put one person into a lucid dream state. And then I think they whispered a word in his ear. So

he dreamed the word. And then he sent that word to a server. And then somebody else, they put somebody else into a dream. And then they sent the word from the server. I don't really know how you I don't really get that bit. I don't know how you get from the server into the dream. They've sort of glossed over that with about you and then we put a word in his dream. And I that's still the bit that we don't really know what that means, isn't it? But whatever he dreamed the word and then woke

up and said the word. And they they're saying that's the threshold of a kind of a new dimension. But me and my girlfriend once both woke up and we both had a dream about spooky owls in a car park, like quite specifically, not even just one word, but we both had like, we both talked about and then we're like, I had I had that. And I, we thought that was a coincidence. We just went, Oh, that's a funny coincidence. And this is one word, two people dreamed about the word like, I

don't know, egg. And they're saying, like, a new dimension. I think people have the same dream all the time. And they're now trying to say that, because of this, we're going to create some new technology out of time. And they're now trying to say that because of this, we're going to create some new technology out of it. And in a few years, this technology will be everywhere. It will be like as prevalent as your smartphone will be able to send each other messages in our dreams all the time. And I just, I hate this idea so much that I like, I'm so exhausted of having to move through the world and constantly be like assailed by messages and by being available all the time, and being able to

be sent things and advertised or that like sleep is the one bit you get where you can just be like, this is mine, like I can just sit and have some peace. And then maybe every now and again, an owl at the same time as somebody else. And that's a lovely moment. But I don't now want people turning up being like, Hey, are you up? And be like, No, I'm not. No, I'm asleep. And please leave me alone. But they're trying to work out how to get into our dreams. I for one cannot wait to wade through a nightmare and figure out that it's sponsored content halfway

through. There's an amazing detail at the end of this article, though, where they said almost as an aside, they've sort of done it just as a little kind of f**k you at the end of the thing, where they said the tech start-up was started by a Russian CEO, who last year was hospitalized for drilling a microchip into his skull to try and control his own dreams, because he saw a YouTube video about it. He spent five hours watching YouTube videos, and then did it on a sheep, and then did it on himself. So the problem might take care of itself, yeah? Yeah, maybe. I love the idea of just ending with that thing and being like, oh, by the way, the guy doing this is insane.

Laura? Look, I'm pro dream advertising. I feel like maybe that'll be the, you know, how you can sort of watch with ads. Feels like maybe you'd be able to opt out of ads in the daytime, but as long as you signed up to get them all at night, you know, just so you don't miss out on the advertising, maybe, maybe something like that. I am, I would like it to explain why on occasion I wake up yelling in Russian, even though I do not speak Russian. If, look, if technology could unlock that mystery, I'd be quite grateful. And maybe, maybe I'm getting that Russian man's dreams and he's getting mine. And that's why he's

so confused and upset. And we really just need a conversation. Yeah. Yeah. I'm writing a book about romance novels and it's surprising how many of them could have been solved by a conversation, which is often a criticism that is leveled at romance novels, but I think is part of the power of romance novels. Because if you spend three hours screaming, just have a conversation at a book, it might be something that you then carry into your real life. Um, you know, it's, it's inspirational. No, just drill a microchip into your own skull.

What's in a YouTube DIY? Like you're tiling the bathroom. Yeah, you're meant to count sheep to go to sleep, not drill microchips into them and try and converse with them in your sleep. You'd think the microchip drilling thing might keep you up at night as well. I hope you didn't do it before bed. In the neighbors. Yeah, no, you want to have at least three hours between microchipping a sheep and going to sleep. Otherwise.

That makes sense. Yeah, do your last microchipping before 6pm. In a room that's no warmer than 16 degrees. Would either of you pay for like premium, premium dreams? Like if there was a premium dream service that had no ads, would you spend money? That's how they that's how they trick you, right? They trick you into buying the premium dream service. And then they start budget just by advertising themselves to you. So it feels

like an ad break, but then they're just advertising the premium dream service, which is initially confusing, because you're like, I already bought the premium dream service. Why are you telling me that I'm on the premium dream service? And then eventually they start to wedge in other little ads until eventually it expands to being 50% of the content itself. And then you have two things that can happen. There are two branches in the causal chain there, which is either that the content begins to drop product placements in. So then the content itself becomes an ad, or they start to try and make the ads exciting

enough to keep you watching. And then the ads slowly become the content. And sometimes those things can happen at once. Yeah, I'll just save my money, I think. That brings us to our review section. As you know, each week we ask our guest editors to bring in something to review out of five stars. Laura, what have you brought in for us this week?

I brought in these hair, skin and nail vitamin tablets that I was recommended for my hair, skin and nails. And look, I do have hair, skin and nails. So look, I can't I can't give it no stars. They're holding up. But when I was looking at what it contains and where it comes from, it contains silica dioxide. And I was like, what is that? And I kept looking and they make it out of crushed up marine fossils. kept looking and they make it out of crushed up marine fossils. So I thought I had a deficiency, but it turns out I just wasn't getting enough marine fossils in my diet. You know, like, like apparently, I'm not, I'm not depressed. I just need the diet of a plesiosaur and then I'm all good. I would give them three stars. It's a pass. I'm not sold on them yet.

It's been one tablet twice a day with food. There's a lot of variables. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, thank you for the review, but it feels also like hair, skin and nails is very specific, but sort of not specific enough. Cause what if you really want like stronger nails and glowing skin, but you have too much hair. Yeah. You can't dial these things in. You've hit the nail on the head there, Alice. That is exactly my problem.

According to society. And that brings us to Jaws. Jaws, what have you brought in for us? I would like to review the Octonauts live show at the Battersea Park Family Fireworks Day, which I saw the other day, which was a real rollercoaster. I initially found it very annoying because Captain Barn, I've not seen Octonauts, but they're these big cats. I didn't know they were cats. They're these huge cats that live on a submarine. Doesn't sound like they should be cats.

Yeah, right. Sounds like they should be cats. Yeah, right. It sounds like they should be octopus. I've heard people talk about it, but it was so strange. One of them is like a ginger cat with an eye patch and one of them is like a posh cat in a captain's hat. And his name was Captain Barnacles and there was a creature trapped in the bubble engine and they were trying to get the crowd to guess what kind of creature it was. And they said, we don't know what it is, but it's making a lot of electric zapping noises.

So then I was at the back and I went electric eel. It's an electric eel. I'd had a mulled wine. So I was, I was acting up. But then everyone ignored me. And then they sang a song about a giant squid and went, is it a giant squid? And I was at the back going, no, electric eel, you're wasting your time. Stop this song. The people around me were getting a bit like, come on, it's a kids show, like, let them do the thing. But I was cross about and then the second one was a slime eel. They went, is it a slime meal and then sang a song about slime meal. And I was

I was getting pissed off. I was like, it's an electric eel. If you just listen, listen to me. I'm telling you what it is. And then they got to the third one. I thought he said this would be electric eel. And then they could have just listened to me all along. And it turned out it was an electric manta ray, which I don't think is a thing. I've not heard of that. But the third song was electric manta ray. And then everyone around me turned and like tutted at me. And we're like, there you go, you see, that's why you should give the show a chance, instead of thinking that you're cleverer than the show. And it was such a clever gotcha moment. I was really annoyed about it in a time to actually, it taught me the values of patience

and just kind of letting them go on the journey. So I give it five stars for teaching me to just wind my neck in a bit and not think that I know better than the Octonauts. And I think I needed to learn that that day. I mean, a live show. Yeah, weird thing to do, isn't it? It was like actors with like big, big heads on, like big kind of mascot heads. So it looked like the Octonauts from the TV show, but I think it was just humans in there. But you were wrong about the eel. I was wrong about it.

So how can you be sure? I can't be an authority on any of this anymore. And that brings us to our next top story, Cheese Heist News. Now this was sent in by basically every roving reporter that's ever sent in a story to the gargle. I don't know whether our show has developed a personality or not, but people definitely thought we should be covering the man who was arrested in the UK for stealing $389,000. Oh, I'm so glad they caught him. It's good to know he's off the streets.

It was a 63 year old man. I mean, doing well already to have that much cheese at that age, I feel is extraordinary. Laura, you have thoughts about dairy. Can you unpack this story for us? Laura, you have thoughts about dairy. Can you unpack this story for us? It feels like the plot of a new Wallace and Gromit or like Mr. Bean six or something like that. Basically this guy, he stole a lot of cheese, a lot of very expensive cheese.

Cheese that is more expensive than you would think it maybe would be. cheese. Cheese is more expensive than you would think it maybe would be. And he posed as a fake cheese distributor and took the cheese and then the check bounced essentially. And my favourite part of the story is that they're telling everybody, and this means you, dear listeners, keep an eye out for any suspicious cheese that you come across, all right? If you see anybody on the side of the road with big old wheels of cheese going, cheese for cheap, cheap cheese, you call the cops, all right?

You call the authorities immediately because these people are dangers to society. I was told by a very aspirational bourgeois person in my youth that actually the more suspicious the cheese the better it is. That's how you know it's good. I ate one the other day that had it had gone black. It had like hair on it. On purpose? Well yeah the guy who owned it. In your fridge or someone else's. He's like a cheese connoisseur and he brought this cheese board out and one of them I was like, that's off. And you're like, no, no, that's good. That's good cheese. Like, and it was rotting. And I tried it because I was like, well, I've never had cheese this far along. It was disgusting. It was absolutely gone on. It was rancid. So I think there's a there's a bit of kind of empress to new clothes about a lot of

the cheese, like the top end cheese industry. I bet a lot of this cheese that's gone missing is shit. It's just off. Yeah, so they impersonated a wholesaler in France and had the cheese shipped to them, which should have brought up, you know, flashing signs up already, because they're they're French people asking for an English supplier to send them cheese. Come on, come on, come on. I just feel I might be being very naive here. And I embarrassed

myself at the Octonauts show. So I'm I'm wary of being too outspoken here. But I feel very bad for Neil's Yard that this happened to them. But I also feel like shouldn't you just like the rules of commerce are quite well established, which is that you give somebody the product when they've paid for the product, right. But it's different if it's like a service, like we're comedians, and that's it, like, you you only get paid after you've done the thing. And that can cause problems. But if you're selling cheese, I feel like you should wait till you've got the money. And then you give them the cheese. Surely, I don't

understand how this happened. If I was in charge, I'd be like, make sure they give you the money. And then give them the hold on to the cheese. Yeah, yeah. charge, I'd be like, make sure they give you the money and then give them hold on to the cheese. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't let it go. And also, you know, I feel like this has got all the makings of a folk hero. Because cheese is inherently sort of comical and non threatening as a thing to steal. So I feel like we can have, you know, ballads about this person. All they'd have to do is something

fairly innocuous. They just sort of have to share the profits or something like that. It feels like a Jim Broadbent movie. I reckon in five years, there'll be a film of this with Jim Broadbent in it. And like Penelope Wilton. What's the title? Cheesed off. It'd be a bad film, but I think it'd be really lovely. Inspirational. It has to be like one of those save the rec center ones. Yeah, he comes up with a genius idea. And it's it's stealing all the cheese. That brings us to our final story of this week's gargle and that is the news that the Vatican has unveiled its new mascot, an anime character called Luce. Daws Norris, you've stared at the ceiling of the Vatican and marveled at its wonders before.

Can you unpack this story for us? I sure can. Beautiful ceiling, that ceiling. I've actually never been. Yes, the Vatican have created a new mascot. She is she's supposed to be a pilgrim. So she's got muddy boots. She's got like big eyes. They went into a lot of detail about like all the kind of design choices that went into apparently her eyes are the shape of scallop shells, because that's a shell

that is relevant to the Catholic faith. I don't think a lot of this, I think, is going to go over the heads of the people they're targeting. They're basically they're worried that there's not enough young people getting into Catholicism. So they're trying to make it cool and trendy, by creating this kind of like anime character. I found it quite a bold move that they're designing a mascot, because I feel like they have the Pope, like they've got quite a kind of central figure. And it's quite gracious of him to share the

spotlight in that way. And to be like, yeah, you can create this new mascot. And I now I like the idea that this mascot actually succeeds so well that she eclipses the Pope in popularity. So in the future, he'll be on that balcony doing the mass or whatever. And she'll be stood next to him, just sort of doing poses and catchphrases and stuff and going, you it's me. I think that would be great. They're launching it the way they're trying to kind of introduce this to the world for the first time is they're launching it a comic con in Italy. I just feel like that's gonna go very, very badly for them. I really don't think those are compatible spaces at all. I've never been

to a comic con. But my understanding of it is it's like, it's people who don't necessarily feel like they fit into the status quo. So they build this very kind of queer friendly, neurodiverse friendly space to support people that don't, you know, that don't belong and then get to nerd out about their favorite fantasies and games or whatever. So to have one of the world's biggest and most authoritarian religious institutions

turn up and go, do you want to get into this? I feel like it's going to go down very badly. I don't think that's what they want. They may also have failed to factor in what most young gamers find attractive about female anime characters. Yeah, the muddy boots. The muddy boots and the scallop shell eyes. Do you think it's a good move, Laura?

Look, it's a lateral move for them. They're not going up, but they're not going down. Just across. I think it's, yeah, it would be humbling for the Pope to realize that he's not the mascot. If I was the Pope, I would have assumed I was the mascot. I thought he was the mascot. I'd like to see what other sort of large-scale conventions they could expand to, perhaps Expo or maybe the finance conventions. There's quite a lot of spaces if they're really willing to explore, like maybe a good agricultural show, you know, maybe they could start breeding like some really fancy Catholic sheep or something, just get everybody on board.

I want to see a Funko pop off the Pope as well, if they are branching out into like merch, and kind of comic merch. Yeah, more merch. I froze before because I was like, aren't all sheep meant to be Christians? And then I was like, no, no, no, it's all Christians who are meant to be sheep. My brain misremembered that because it seems like an odd thing to want to be. Less church, more merch. Less church, more merch. That'll do it. They're on their way.

There is a Funko pop of the Pope. Of course there is. Is he called the Funko Pope? Because if he isn't, I'm going to burn that business to the ground. And that brings us to the end of this week's episode of The Gargle. I'm flipping through the ads at the back. Laura, have you got anything to plug? I have two shows in London next week on the 13th and the 14th. And you can sign up to a mailing list on my website. They're good plugs, I think.

That's fair. That's a solid plug. Gentle plugs. And Joss, have you got anything to plug? Yes, I am. At the end of this year I'm filming a sitcom pilot sort of taster thing with some amazing comedians. Roshin Omani, Hugh Davies, Rosalie Minnett, Phil Ellis, Donna Prescott. We've got an amazing cast. We're doing a crowd-funder at the moment for it to help us pay people a little bit more for it. So if you go on my website then you can find out more about it and if you like the sound of it you can support.

And I'm also working on a new solo show which we'll be previewing next year in Leicester and Glasgow and places like that. But all that's on my website as well. And you can find me online at patreon.com slash Alice Fraser. It's a one stop shop full of my stand up specials, podcasts and blogs as well as my twice weekly writers meetings. We're also gonna be doing a New Year creative reboot sort of 10 day online course if you want to sign up there. Just to start the year in a good habit. I don't really believe in New Year's resolutions but I do believe that the character is built of habitual actions. So if you wanna start revving your engines

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