The Gargle - Jizz shortage | Urban men | Optimal ageing

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Emma Doran and Tom Neenan join host Alice Fraser for a man-themed episode 176 of The Gargle.All of the news, with none of the politics.💦 Jizz shortage🏙 Urban men live longer🎸 Men mistreated at gig🤵🏻‍♂️ Optimal ageing🎬 ReviewsWatch on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@BuglePodcastSupport Bugle podcasts here https://www.thebuglepodcast.com/donateWritten by Alice Fraser, Emma Doran and Tom NeenanProduced by Ped Hunter, with executive production from Chris SkinnerHOW TO SUPPORT THE GARGLE- Keep The Gargle alive and well by joining Team Bugle with a one-off payment, or become a Team Bugler or Super Bugler to receive extra bonus treats!https://www.thebuglepodcast.com/donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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in his ribs as his filthy colleagues registered the suddenly less favourable odds. A slim figure in a man's shirt swung itself in beside him, protecting his injured left side, and he realised two things. First, his rescue was a woman and second, she held in her slim but capable hands. The Gargle. Welcome to The Gargle, the Sonic glossy magazine to the Mugles audio newspaper for a visual world. All of the news, none of the politics. I am your host, Alice Fraser and your guest editors for this week's edition of the magazine are Tom Meenan. Hello. Hello! And Emma Doran. Hello. Hello, welcome, welcome, welcome.

Thanks for having me. Thank you so much for having me on this, uh, spoilers alert. Might be a slightly man-heavy episode, and I'm very pleased to be the heavy man who'll be, uh, re-tackling it with you. This is our man episode of The Gargle. You are so correct, but before we, uh, clutch each other's crotches

in the universally heterosexual symbol of masculine affection and jump into this week's top stories, let's have a look at the front cover. The front cover of the magazine is Jeremy Irons and Daniel Craig having a man off, which is where they face each other frowning and look like they're about to kiss. The satirical cartoon this week is Jesus sitting down at the breakfast table with various other prophets and saints and shaking out a newspaper whose title reads, The Nazareth Times, with God saying,

How are things going in your old hometown, son? Managed to sort out that world peace yet? Lol. And that brings us to this week's top story in our Man episode. This is the news that in the UK, sperm donors are getting a pay raise because the UK is facing a Jizz shortage. Emma, you're short on Jizz. Can you unpack this story for us? Yeah, well, I didn't realize that they didn't get paid, which is unfortunate. But I was thinking, how could we entice people into giving away their precious jizz with out payment? So maybe there needs to be a league chart in the clinic. I thought that could be a good way of like, who was the fastest who had the densest cup, who was the quietest, who was the loudest, like kind of a fantasy football of jizz kind of. I don't know a lot about men, but I know men who

seem to like that kind of thing. Maybe that could help them. Then I was thinking, is there a way that we could make the experience better? Anyone I know who has Jizz and has gotten rid of Jizz, the main thing after that then is to sleep. So is there, is that set up? Can they have a dose after? Are they being facilitated? I just think we have to make it more enticing, the experience. I think competition and sleep would be the two top things I would put in there. But I mean it's not my area of expertise, hands up. I mean at the moment it's sort of complicated because people can give sperm but then of course any child that is the result of that sperm has the legal right to contact them after reaching 18 years of age.

And I feel like what we really want to do is double hand that, rescind that right. First of all, you don't get to find out who parented you on the sperm side. But secondly, I feel like that'd be really beneficial for men who might be wanting to sleep with younger women. Because conceivably, anyone who might be your daughter is suddenly danger zones. Yes, and they do like to sleep with younger women. I have noticed that. That seems to be very popular. Like that's never out of fashion. It's never out of fashion. It's always it is the black polo neck of

inadvisable sexual relationships. Tom? I was shocked as well that you get so it was 35 pounds and now it's going to be 45 pounds which also they they want to make clear is not you're not being paid to donate your sperm you're being paid compensation for traveling and also getting a hotel or something in order to donate your sperm because they don't want to get people who are only in it for the money. They want men who are altruistically there donating their seeds out of the goodness of their hearts and other elements. And so I think that's good. It's better than you get for donating blood because if you donate blood, you pretty much just get a biscuit,

which they can't give you if you're donating sperm because there might be a public schoolboy there and he might get the wrong idea. So it's the rudest thing I've ever said on the gargoyle. I think that was it. Anyway. And so- High fives, no, I don't know where you put that hand.

Yeah, yeah, hands up just to show. So yeah, so I didn't know how I feel about this. Apart from anything else, it gives all those annoying men who say, you know, when you say, have you got any children? And they say, not that I know of. Maybe they're actually telling the truth and they have been donating sperm for the 45 pounds and they could have sired, you know, 30 children

who are gonna come after them when they turn 18. Good for them. But then do they owe them any money? Do they have to give them the 45 pounds? Is that how it works? Yes, yeah, I think they owe them 45 pounds. I feel like when you're hunting down your estranged or long lost father or absent father,

I feel like there's sort of three modes that you can go in. One is like, oh, it'd be nice to meet this person who I am biologically related to but have no personal relationship to. And I wonder what they're like and I wonder if I'll feel any connection to them. That's like one way. The other way is like, oh, I feel really miserable with my birth family and maybe this is another family that I could attach myself to and it will solve all of my emotional problems. And then the third one is John Wick. You're coming, you're coming with guns, you're coming with a certain set of skills, and your

father is not going to make it. That's terrifying. Just a ticking clock. If you've ever donated sperm, it could just, your dog could be kicked in at any minute. And that's the end of you. But hey, you know, you got your money, it takes your choice. I sort of think it's nice that there's a shortage. I feel like it bespeaks an increased level of a sense of responsibility about where we,

where men put their jizz. Yeah, it feels, it's nice to hear. I feel a level of comfort in that, that there's a shortage. It's like my shoulders have dropped. I do find it quite strange that the word donating with sperm, it doesn't feel like that word should be used. There's something, you know, I think you donate blood. Do you donate sperm? Could we not find a better word?

Give it up. Yeah, you give it up. Yeah, give it up or something. Get rid. Well, you know, when you donate coins, you get a little like charity box. It's usually in the shape of the thing you're donating for, like a little guide dog, and it's got a little hole in the top and you put your coins in.

I'm just throwing it out there, maybe that kind of thing might make it feel a bit more charitable. Well, I mean, don't you also get some tax back on charitable donations? Maybe you get that 45 pounds now raised to 45 pounds and then also like 45p return on your tax. But that does mean you have to report to the government every time you jizzed into a small container. Do you guys not do that already? That, I do, I make a detailed list every day. Not every day. Come on, guys.

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that men are living longer and more healthily if they live in cities than if they live in the country. Tom Neenan, you're a country boy, can you unpack this story for us? Quite the contrary, not that I want to contradict you already, I'm a city boy. I'm sorry, you're a contrary boy. Ah, there you go. I live in the city, my fingers are black from the smog and I am proud to be so because it means I'm going to live at least two years longer if I'm six years above. This is from new research from the Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics and

they say that yeah, me, a man who lives my urban life where I get on the subway and I dance with bucket drummers and other such things are gonna live so much longer and that's mainly due they say to living in the country is a dangerous life and things that can take your life in the country I've made a list falling into a grain bin and not being able to get out because the more you struggle the more it drags you down and being chased by a cow into a pit that can kill you. Threshing machines, they can kill you as well. Just basically in the country, you're surrounded by very dangerous things

as opposed to a city where basically, you know, it's just hospitals and soft play areas. So you're perfectly fine. But be wary because yeah, like I said, you're more prone apparently to illnesses, to any kind of illnesses when you're out there, just because it's so cold. Also I think... It's so cold. Also I think that it's because the country goes by... In the city, things have to be more regimented. In the country, everything basically still goes by sort of apocryphal stories,

like red sky at night, shepherd's delight, red sky in the morning, shepherd's warning, that kind of thing. That's how they live their life in the country. Everything is just- Just a red sky, shepherd's pie. Exactly, they look at the sky, that's how they dictate how most things

are gonna go that day. It's like, if the river runs green, then everything's clean. But if the river runs green, then everything's clean. But if the river runs red, then you'll soon be dead. And that's how they decide what water they can drink. So basically, it's just guesswork a lot of it in the country. They don't really know what's healthy and what's not. That's why I, as a city dwelling man, are going to live so much longer and I'm so proud of that. I think that's a wonderful thing. I think there's a fair bit of sort of drink driving tractors while listening to sad podcasts, as far as I understand it. Emma?

Yeah, I saw this. I thought maybe there's an element of truth because now we did have, in Ireland, we had an awful time with the old famine. We get a bad old time with the famine. So I thought, there's something in that. When I was growing up, maybe there's something in that. But when I was growing up, there was a lot of ads about children getting sucked into machinery on farms. And those ads have gone. They were very scary odds. And it did seem like farms were the most dangerous place ever to live.

Kids were constantly losing arms and drowning and all sorts of stuff going on. The cynical side of my brain thinks, is this people who live in the country putting this out, putting a spin because they're sick of people using them for their wellness weekends. And oh, I just have to be out in the country, the air is so much better. And they're sick of people coming into their villages and asking for, you know, extra hot oat lattes. And they're just like, you know, so I, I'd want to see a little bit more research before I'm totally convinced, because I think they're trying to get rid of the city people, trying to put palates in fields and stuff like that.

They're like, that's actually my land. So, yeah, I think that's the plot of The Lord of the Rings. Is this? Hobbit's going, don't come here. It's terrible. Second breakfast is deadly. Yeah. Also, the inverse is true for horses. Horse will survive a lot longer in the countryside than it will do loose in central London.

That's very true. Yeah. So don't go thinking that that's the case everywhere because yeah, that could be very dangerous. If you put a sheep in Heathrow, it's not going to last very long. So so don't go thinking that that's the case everywhere because yeah, that could be very dangerous If you push in Heathrow, it's not gonna last very long Oh, I mean, this is the thing obviously all statistics are telling only a partial story You know, the city is much healthier for urban men But not for example, if you're an old man with like one eye squinted in a flat cap You cannot survive anywhere within the the outer ring of any metropolitan area. The

pigeons just come at you. They know you're an invasive species. They spot you. Also very unstable, those gentlemen, the guys with one eye squinted and the flat cap, because unless they're leaning against a fence, they've got no centre of gravity at all. Yes, very true. The way they make their way around. You're like our baby's cruise holding him to the edge of the couch. That's the way they make their way around just fence to fence which is why they get so angry if you leave a gate open. Of course. Oh okay that made sense. Because then they're trapped forever in that seal. Yeah.

And that brings us to our reviews section. As you know each week we ask our guest editors to review something out of five stars. Tom what have you brought in for us this week? Right so mine is a film review. There's a film out, you might have heard about it. It's divisive between people who think it's awful and people who think it's baffling and awful. And it is Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis, which is, it's a folly. It's a man who has just put all of his own,

I think he has self-funded it to make this film, which is baffling audiences up and down the country. I have not seen Megalopolis. So I've written a review of Megalopolis having not seen Megalopolis and hopefully it makes sense. Okay. Oh boy, what a crazy movie. I have only previously seen one

of Francis Ford Coppola's movies, the touching comedy drama, Robin Williams, starring in Jack about a little boy who looks old and is played by Robin Williams. It also starred J.Lo as Jack's teacher. J.Lo is not in Megalopolis, neither is Robin Williams. In fact, I can't remember if in Jack he was a young boy or if he was just pretending to be a young boy in order to spend more time with his estranged family. No wait, that's Mrs Doubtfire and actually thinking about it, the implications of a man in his forties pretending to be a boy who was nine years old in order to non-consensually spend time

with young children is really sinister. So I'm glad Mechelopolis is not Jack or indeed the version of Jack I thought Jack was, which is in fact Mrs Doubtfire. Therefore I'm going to give it five stars. Five stars for Francis Ford Coppola's White Elephant. That's good. I mean, I definitely now also don't wanna watch it. So that's, the reviews done its job. Excellent work. Your experience of not watching it has really convinced me

also to experience not watching it has really convinced me also to experience not watching it. Emma, what have you brought in for us today? I wanted to review, it's a little bit different, but I wanted to review how I loaded my dishwasher this morning. I don't think we're ever going to see the like of it again. So it was a tricky situation because there was stuff from the dinner the night before, but there was also stuff from this morning from breakfast. So there was pots and breakfast plates and bowls. And there was as old as time. Yeah, it just, you know, a kind of the tension was in the kitchen myself and the dogs looked to me, they're like, I don't know if you're going to pull this off. So I just I took my time. And if I could show you how beautifully this dishwasher is stacked

it was all it was I mean I know it's very early to mention but it was almost akin to a Christmas kind of dishwasher stacking and there wasn't a single thing left out of this dishwasher and Now I do have a lot of stuff going on but while I put the dishwasher on I gave my kitchen kind of a rage clean as well. You know, like a rage clean when you're having a breakdown. I was having a breakdown. But I've just looked that was achieved today and maybe other people don't care, but it meant a lot to me. And yeah, five stars. It's not going to happen again. Yeah, it's not going to happen again. Yeah, it's not going to happen again.

An extraordinary achievement. Such a good dishwasher stacking that it had ripple effects out and cleaned the whole kitchen. Yeah, positivity, I am hoping that I could be getting ahead of myself now. The test will be are the glasses clean? If the glasses have kind of the scum from the dinner, you know. But at the moment, we're feeling very positive about it and looking forward to part two. Five stars tending. And look, I think you've got to back yourself there, Emma. You said you don't think anyone else would be interested. I'd like to put it out to the listener. Please tweet us or blue sky us at hellogogglers to congratulate Emma for this epic achievement.

Thanks for the support, yeah. Yeah, small wins. Small wins add up. And that brings us to our next man, story of our man episode of The Gargle, which is the news that some men who attended a last dinner party concert have objected to having been treated as suspicious by security. Taken aside, searched, asked uncomfortable and probing questions. Emma, you've had a dinner party. Can you unpack this story for us? Yes, I think so. The men that went to the gig on their own-aged men at music gigs, the industry will collapse. Like they are at the forefront of the industry, you know what I mean?

And as a comedian, the thing that annoys me most, or not most, but one of the things that really annoys me about gigs is when you have a gig and there's those single tickets where people have bought the tickets in the wrong way, they've left all these single tickets. So I mean, personally, I welcome the strange men at gigs. I think, I mean, I think they're fine. I think maybe they were just having a little bit of fun with them, like a little bit of crack with them, something to kind of do, no? Were they a bit sensitive? When they talked about how they felt uncomfortable and made them feel strange, I was like, yeah, that's what it's like being a woman at a music gig.

I was like, yeah, that's the whole thing that we go through all the time. So I thought it was cute that their whole lives they had just kind of been walking around and no one had been interrupting them, questioned them about who they were or making them feel uncomfortable. I think that's cute that they had been living a life

like that and I'm happy for them. They've had this new experience in their lives. I mean, it's hard to, yeah, it's hard when you get older to have new experiences. It's delightful to have access to a whole new range. I also think on the other hand that you know it's not very nice when it happens to women so it's equally not nice when it happens to men. I don't think we can dismantle the house of the master with the tools of the master as it were and maybe everyone should feel welcome at music gig but then I think again actually the reality of music gigs is that everyone there feels like they're too uncool to be at the music gig and that's as it should be we go to music gigs to realize that we're not as cool as we think we are oh yes you've got it in you you're like I'm gonna have fun I'm gonna dance I'm gonna to have fun. I'm going to dance.

I'm going to be the kind of person I've always thought I could be. And if you're any older than 24, you fail that test very hard. At that awkward moment, would they start playing a song that you don't know? And you do like the fake singalong and you're like, oh, all these people are like super fans and they've really dressed up for this. And then, you know, just yeah, this was new, I think, this was new. I was at a concert next to a lady who was wearing earplugs, but there were those orange

kind of construction site earplugs that you can get, which is all good to protect your hearing, you know, a very important thing to do at a concert now that we know about, you know, ear damage and so on and so forth. But she clearly felt embarrassed about being the kind of person that was wearing earplugs to a concert because there's nothing less cool than safety consciousness. And so what she had done was put foundation on the outside of the earplugs. And it looked like she had quite upsetting ear growths. And she knew that you were looking at her go, she's twigged, she's twigged the earplugs.

She's looking at them too long. She knows what's going on. To be honest, I would not have clocked that she was wearing earplugs because it doesn't matter to me that she was. I think I was wearing earplugs, but I only noticed that she was wearing earplugs because I pulled around the corner of my eye

and was like, what's happening with that lady's head? Do I need to call an ambulance? Because obviously the foundation wasn't holding up too good. So it was like half fluorescent orange, half like skin tone. You just, you don't know how ear like boards are going to take foundation until you do it. You know what I mean? You just, nobody has that level of experience where they know how foundation holds on them. So that was tough on her. I hope she's okay. Yeah, I do hope she's okay. Tom Neenan, would you have felt comfortable at this concert?

I feel as the representative of men on this podcast, I have to punch the air and go, yes, we have been the victim of something. Men love it when they're the victim of something, because they're so rarely the victim of something like barely ever ever ever And we get to be like this one time. Can you believe it? Someone came up to them and went oh you think you're a fan of this band name three of their songs the thing that men do Constantly and then it happened to us. They were made to feel uncomfortable at a music festival the thing that men do to women Constantly and this one time this one precious time it happened to us and we get to feel like the victim and we love it. We get to love it. I was reading it, I've never even

heard of this band before which makes me super uncool. What are they called? The Last Supper, The Last Dinner Party. The Last Dinner Party, what are they called? The Last Dinner Party. Apparently their shows are theatrical, which means the music probably isn't that good, but they're quite fun to watch. And so I'm pretty sure all the men went there, they just went there to be the victim because it feels so good. It feels better than going to a music festival, going to a music festival and feeling aggrieved. So thank you. Sorry for saying that your music probably wasn't very good, like I said I've never heard of it. What are they called again? Judas, Judas Iscariot. And so I apologise but thank you for the opportunity for men to feel aggrieved at something

because it so rarely happens and when it does oh, oh it fills up our veins with a good sort of itchy, itchy electricity that keeps us going for another 4,000 years, so thank you. And that brings us to our final story of this week's episode of The Gargle. Long has the mythology reigned that marriage is for women. I mean, marriage is what women want. Marriage is to protect women from the terrors of being alone in the world and at various points in history that has been more or less true but right now in history it looks like the only person that marriage is good for is a man. Tom Neenan, can you unpack this story for us? Of course, what amazing news. So this is a study of 7,000 Canadians

and one thing I couldn't find in the study, maybe I missed it, is whether it was all heterosexual marriages or whether it included homosexual marriages as well. But either way, what it points out is that men who became married during the study or were already married are twice as likely to age optimally compared to their never married male peers. But keep that bit in your mind because then it it also says, among women, those were never married were twice as likely to age optimally. Basically then, what from my point of view, this study finds out is that when you are choosing,

as a man, when you are choosing your female partner, you're basically choosing your portrait of Dorian Gray, you are choosing the person whose life force you are going to be sapping in order to make yourself look better. So whenever you're on a date, whenever you're doing that kind of thing, just be aware that this person is going to deteriorate as you improve and it's all like you're some kind

of parasite on their life, which I think is both news and not news again for more men. So choose your partner carefully because like I say, you will be sapping their life force slowly and you wanna make sure it's someone with a good life force to sap as well. I think that's why so many men go with like kind of, you know, exciting women and then slowly just try and, I think it's called Jonah Hilling in the technical term.

Can I say that? I don't know. Bruma has it. Anyway, you were gonna say something. I mean, just to clarify, among women, those who've never married were twice as likely to age optimally compared to marriage respondents

who got widowed or divorced during the study period. So as long as you outlive the woman you've married, then you're less likely to sap her life first. Her health outcomes become slightly worse, but not. Okay, got you. If you divorce her or die on her, then she's. I feel like, yeah, being a widow does sap your life first just because of by nature of being a widow

makes you, creates an image in someone's mind, probably unfairly that you are an older lady. And so in their minds, they create an older picture of you in their mind, which is unfair. Because in the UK, we had an advert for Scottish widows. This woman was in her like mid-30s. She must've got married then before.

To be fair, Scottish men don't live long. That's what they're trying to tell us all along. Statistically speaking. Yes. That makes sense. Yeah, I mean, this is an extraordinary story. It really does seem like marriage is kind of a cure-all for men and not so good for women. Emma, your thoughts? men and not so good for women. Emma, your thoughts? Yeah, when I saw this, it made me think of my mother.

Like, she's a very traditional Irish woman in the sense that she hates my dad. She hates that she is married to him. Like, she loves him, but she hates him. And the latest thing she said to me earlier the week, I called into her and she said, he's been up in the toilet again. I don't know, like what she wanted she wanted to do buried out in the garden. I don't understand. What I noticed as well, like she really, I don't know. But what I know when you're speaking about widows, what tends to happen is when men are widowed, they meet somebody else within six months to a year and lock something down fairly lively. With women, they tend not to meet somebody else. They tend not to meet and marry.

And I used to think that it was because these little widowed women were just so sad and that they could never move on and it was to loyalty to their husbands. And as I get older and I am now with my partner for like 18 years, I'm starting to realize they just are enjoying the peace and quiet. They are just enjoying the bit of time to themselves. Finally they can, you know, put as many cushions as they want on the couch and they can, you know, light smelly candles. But somebody going, what's that smell? Just they just the tranquillity of being on their own until they die in a horrifying candle and cushion.

Yeah, that's an issue. They'll obviously fall asleep or whatever. But no, I 100% believe this. And I wouldn't be surprised if my own mother had funded this research in some way. You know, really? So, yeah, men do. Like, I love, I, look, I'll say this. I love my partner. I love when we have children together, like, you know, we've been together since our early 20s.

But sometimes I would have this fantasy where it's like me and him and he dies. I just had, you know what I mean? Just like I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean, you know, just lifted, lifted from the earth by a giant eagle and carried off to climbs unknown. Exactly. Something kind of poetic. And then born free, painlessly squashed by a piano. But I'd be young enough still to kind of, you know, move on.

But anyway, yes, this research is factual. I give it approval. Wonderful news for the people at the University of Toronto's Factor Iwen Tash Faculty of Social Work and the Institute of Life, Course and Aging. I feel like if you get a PhD in the Institute of Life, Course and Aging, you're a very particular kind of person. Yeah, that's what you say basically. If you don't, I didn't go to one of your normal schools, I got a PhD from the School of Life, Force and Aging. That's why I look like this.

I think you would probably just learn as much about aging by sitting in a pub for an afternoon and how it can affect people differently with different lives. I think you'd be like, oh yeah, I understand it now. Yeah, makes sense. Well, that brings us to the end of this week's episode of The Gargle. I'm flipping through

the ad section at the back. Emma, have you got anything to plug? I do. I'm on tour at the moment. My tour is called Dilemma and I'm touring all over Ireland and the UK and I'll be in Newcastle, Liverpool, Bristol but I've never been to any of these places so I'm very excited. I know yeah I was going to be in Leicester Square Theatre October is sold out but there's a date in March so yes I'm very excited I can't wait. That sounds magnificent Leicester Square Theatre is a space. If you're in any of those places, look Emma up on website. Website is emmadorancomedy.com. Emmadorancomedy.com.

Tom, have you got anything to plug? As per, I'm at TP Neenan on Instagram, if you wanna see what I'm doing there, at TP Neenan on X, but everyone's slowly migrating off of that because it's horrible. I would say The Haunting, my radio for sure I think is available via Penguin Books, Audiobooks or Audible. Oh, and I've got a new thing! I wrote an episode of a very exciting sci-fi comedy show with... I think

I can talk about it, I'll see. Anyway, it's for Audible and it was with David Reed and I think I can say that and I think it's coming out very soon, but I'm not sure what it's called because there's so I'm not sure what it's called. But anyway, keep an eye out for all those things. I'll probably post it on Instagram. Just listen to everything on Audible. Yeah, just hear Tom Nainan's voice. But that was really that was really fun and we're really proud of the results of that. So I'll be putting that on my Instagram stories or something once that's available to get as well. Also, seeing as this is a man episode, I did a podcast ages ago called Tomlin and

It's Not All Men, which is available via BBC Sounds. And that is probably worth it. I think it was like nine episodes and they're very fun. And I'm very proud of those. So give those a listen. If today's discussion of men has really inspired you to find out more about 49% of the population. Yeah exactly. You can buy my book it's coming out on the 6th of February in 2025 it is still available online at unbound.com it's called a passion for Passion. And we're gonna do lots of events in February next year. So keep the entirety of February free.

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