The Gargle - TV switch-off | Space mysteries | Snoopolympics

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

Joz Norris and Alasdair Tremblay-Birchall join host Alice Fraser for episode 169 of The Gargle. All of the news, with none of the politics.📺 TV switch-off🛰 Space mysteries📱 TikTok sued🐶 Snoopolympics🐝 ReviewsWatch on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@BuglePodcastWritten by Alice Fraser, Joz Norris and Alasdair Tremblay-BirchallProduced by Ped Hunter, with executive production from Chris SkinnerHOW TO SUPPORT THE GARGLE- Keep The Gargle alive and well by joining Team Bugle with a one-off payment, or become a Team Bugler or Super Bugler to receive extra bonus treats!https://www.thebuglepodcast.com/donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is a podcast from The Bugle. The Eiffel Tower towers proudly in the background. The French passion for drama infuses the excitement of the Olympics with extra sexiness, extra je ne sais quoi, extra moustache and a baguette if you know what I mean. The Louvre, the l'Orangerie, the Champs-Elysées, the Seine, an onion in a beret, and all of it echoing with the triumphant sound of the gargle. This is the gargle. Welcome to the Sonic Glossy Magazine,

to the Buels Audio Newspaper for a Visual World. We bring you all of the news and none of the politics. I'm your host, Alice Fraser, and your guest editors for this week's edition of the magazine, Jaws Norris, welcome. Hello, lovely intro. Made me feel sort of excited about the Olympics, which I don't normally get.

I'm very honored to have brought you into the passion of the rings. That was what I needed, I just needed a scene set. And Alistair Tremley-Virchel, welcome. Hello, welcome to you and you got me really excited about facial hair on bread. Yeah, normally a bad thing, only in France a good thing. Before we put ourselves down on the starting blocks and plunge into the sprint that is this week's top stories, let's have a look at the front cover of the magazine and the satirical cartoon.

The front cover this week, the front cover model is Olympic pole vault saboteur Anthony Amorati's giant penis, proving that there is a better way than winning the Olympics to get laid after competing in the Olympics. And it's going viral for having a penis in the right place at the right time. That is the better way. He just got offered, did you hear this? He got offered $250,000 to do porn by a pornography website. Because he's got the most famous penis in the world now. Well, right. Yeah.

It's a viral penis in the best possible way. I'd ask for more. I think he can ask for more than that. Yeah. I feel like he could. What is this scene going to look like? Is he supposed to hold his penis and then run towards the lady like that? He tries to leap over her head, but he doesn't quite clear it.

I feel like it opens up a whole new scope to the whole, like, I only read Playboy for the articles, sort of level of excuses. I'm only watching Bang Buss for the Olympic level athleticism and cardiovascular fitness. The satirical cartoon this week is a picture of the penis of the white nationalist rioter who copped a friendly fire brick to the nads from one of his fellow xenophobic thugs proving that there is a worse way to never get laid after being on television for brutally targeting vulnerable refugees and it's going viral for having a penis in the right place at the right time. I hear people are offering to, uh, let him get hit by another brick for free.

Yeah. They're going to pay him $2 50 to do pornography where someone throws a brick at his an ass. There is a, there's a niche there. I guarantee you there is a niche. I've not seen very much pornography in my life, but I'm always like. Astonished by the bad acting because they're doing something that presumably they're enjoying.

Sure. Yeah. And at no point do they look like they're enjoying it. Have you ever seen a film called, what's it called? Faithful Findings by Neil Breen? No. It's great. He's one of these sort of like mad people who went to Hollywood with some

money in his pocket and then went well I'll do everything I can make me a tie film so he writes it directs it produce it. I'm pretty certain all the actors in it are former porn actors that are trying to kind of make their break into like oh this is a proper film and they're all dreadful it's very sweet it's nice to see them in a in a new you know? Yeah, it's a reverse striptease. Wait, they're putting their clothes on? To a cacophonous sound? I'm always surprised at how angry people's faces seem to be in pornography.

People seem more angry like that, I don't know why. Anyway, maybe I don't have sex correctly The worst bit of your day I have a really big smile on my face Like I'm taking a school photo I Feel like all Congress should end with a high five. I'm very positive Absolutely I feel like all Congress should end with a high five. I'm very positive. Absolutely. And that brings us to our top story this week. This is the news that fewer than 50% of young people in the United Kingdom are still tuning in to live television. Jaws Norris, you used to be very three-dimensional,

now you're much more flat-screen. Can you unpack this story for us? Yeah, that's true. Yeah, well, I thought this was quite a good statistic. 48% apparently of young people are watching live TV these days. And I think the thing that will make the difference on that stat is whether or not that takes into account

the people that are only half watching, because I think most young people now are watching it with a phone in their hands, so it's only really got 50% of their attention anyway. So if they have taken that into account, then that means that 96% of young people are watching live TV. They're just, they're only giving it half their attention. And I think that's great. That's nearly all of them. So I think this is cause for celebration. Obviously, if they haven't taken it into account then that means it's 24%, which is not great. But I've got some ideas of how to get people back

into watching live TV. And these are just genuine, I've actually thought about this. These aren't entirely like joke suggestions. And I think this would work. I reckon one potential solution is that you hide Easter eggs throughout the TV schedules on all the different channels. So it's like where's Wally?

You have Wally hidden in the background of various programs across different channels. So he's on I'm a Celebrity, he's on Bake Off, he's on Doctor Who and the first person to find him in all his hiding places on that day gets a prize. So you have to be like hopping around the channels and watching live. And my other idea is you launch a big flagship show, a really like compelling show that everybody wants to watch

and you don't tell people when it's on. It's gonna randomly interrupt a broadcast at some point and you just have to be there for it. And if you miss it, you miss it and it won't be on catch-up. And I was thinking like it has to be something that as soon as people hear about it they're like, I've got to see it. So I've got David Tennant teaching David Attenborough how to make a pavlova on top of the Burj Khalifa because that's got kind of beloved figures, but there's also danger and people love to watch people like learning a skill. I've got Janelle Monae teaching Matthew McFaddy into tap dance in shark-infested waters. It's this kind of thing that when you hear it you go, well yeah I have to watch that,

but the only way to watch it is to just be on telly, be watching it the whole time. And I genuinely think that's a great idea. I don't know how expensive those shows are to make though. Would insurance be a problem? It's two cast members. Bear Grylls grilling an actual bear about its family life. It's a good idea. I also like the bit where you just make a really good flagship TV show.

Yeah, just do that. That's my simple solution. Just make some unmissable TV. Just make the best thing that's ever been made. Alastair, are you 48% of people or are you on the 52% of people end? I'm in the 48% of people who are not really watching it. And somebody who's even finding it hard to keep a TV in my life, harder and harder to justify.

But I think that also 48% of people are also finding it difficult to get from having a thought about wanting to do something in their phone and then getting to that thing in their phone. I think it's just like, the tech companies have found out a way of trapping our minds. They've given us the Venus fly trap of apps, you know, where all we gotta do is just, you know,

just dip one foot in and then we're half stuck and then a second foot in and then suddenly the trap comes down and an hour and a half has gone by. It said in the article that while those in the 25 to 34 age group reported watching an hour and three minutes of shared content each week, I mean, yeah, maybe in the first hour and three minutes of Monday morning,

that seems insane to me. That they're saying an hour and three minutes of watching shared content online, I don't know. I think that they've gotten too good at trapping us and I feel like the only solution is that tech billionaires themselves need to be punished by having their own minds trapped within their bodies. So some kind of, maybe this is too mean,

locked in syndrome and then I will feel satisfied that they are getting the punishment that is equal to the crime. It's very odd because I'm now at the age and a number of children where I'll walk into a room and forget why I walked into a room and then have to walk out and walk back in. But now I find myself also doing that with my phone. I'm like I was going to do something on my phone and I've forgotten what it was and I have to close the phone and put it down and then walk away from it and then be like, ah, it was a very important email. I had to book a physiotherapist appointment or whatever it happens to be. But I can't watch,

I can't watch real content, you know, the kind of scrolling real content because I've spent the last decade and a half of my life Focusing really hard on creating narratives. So when I get like 10 random clips in a row, my brain is like but but why that? Yeah, you've you've actually been inoculated in some way and you've you're like a special one and we need to take your blood and Everybody else's I'm the day walker. I'm the real state walker Your ad section now because you can't be what you can't buy And you can't live life lying down. But why should that mean you have to use your legs?

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Now it's time for your space news. Space news now and this is the news that apparently our atmosphere is playing noughts and crosses. Alastair Trembley- Birchall you've looked up at the stars and dreamed. Can you unpack this story for us? Yes I yearn constantly. Yes, it seems that scientists have spotted unexpected shapes in the ionosphere, finding both C-shaped structures and X-shaped, formerly Twitter-shaped structures. Now, apparently what was happening is that they would often see these shapes in the patterns in the

like interference patterns of the ions and things like that up you know up where the telecommunications occur and things like that when there was like volcanoes and different things like that but NASA has been looking recently when those things aren't happening and they've noticed that there's C and X shapes there all the time. Now I personally think that it's the atmosphere celebrating Charlie XCX's declaring that Kamala is brat. Obviously that's you know I obviously we don't get into politics in this show but you know with the world getting hotter who's getting hotter, who's

getting hotter than the atmosphere? And I think maybe the atmosphere has got too hot and possibly it's starting to take sides. And you know, but I think what we really have forgotten the lessons of the last few years, both with this Pentagon UFO stuff and the stories from a year ago or two years ago of the Chinese spy balloon is, remember that week after the Chinese spy balloon where America was just shooting down random stuff that they found in the sky

and ended up being like kids projects and plastic bags and they were just using full on missiles. I think the lessons that we learned after that was that we just have to stop looking up. Right? There's just, there's too much going on up there. Right? It's none of our business. There's, there's a lot of it, right? It hurts our neck to look that way anyway. You know, I think it's just from upwards, up from, from basically the head height onwards, it's none of our business. And I think that we just leave it to the scars, to the stars. We'll just call that space from now on. Generic space. Yeah. Anything above a bird can look after itself.

Exactly. Yeah. Jaws. So I, I, I'm afraid I had a strong emotional reaction to this article because I think I've come on this podcast before and talked about the fact that I don't like space related news. I find it very frustrating because I have no frame of reference for it. I just don't think it's relevant. And this article was, I think, the worst offender I've ever read. It's very long, this story. And I was scrolling through it trying to work out what's the point of this? And I was trying to read, there's all these animated

infographics, and it's this thing about like, oh we found particles that are invisible but they look like Xs and Cs. I don't know what's supposed to be in space. I assume space is full of invisible things that are many different shapes. I don't know why it's interesting that they're shaped like Cs and Xs. There was no attempt to explain any of it. There's this thing here that shows the magnetic poles around the earth. I don't know what it... I just... I got angrier and angrier reading down this thing, trying to work out what does this mean? What are you actually saying? And then right down the bottom, nearly at the bottom of the article, there's this bit that says, during the May 10th geomagnetic storm that hit earth, tractor company John

Deere reported that some customers reliant on GPS for precision farming experienced a disruption. And I thought, well, then that's the story. Now I get it. Like if it disrupts GPS and it means tractors don't know where to go, I care about that. I want tractors to know where they're going. So I think this should have led with earth tractors in trouble, because space is full of alphabet. And then I'd have had some reason to care while I was reading it. I'd be like, Oh, I wonder what's going on with these tractors. But I thought it was, I'm sorry to whichever scientist did all the research and put this article together. I'm sure they did a lot of work. I personally would have preferred them to lead with the tractor stuff because I just found myself

reading the whole thing and going, oh, who cares? It's space, you know? But it's not just space, it's tractors. Yeah, now I realise I was being overly reactionary and actually this is a huge problem. I mean, you think, but this is the problem. We feel like space is far far away, but actually I hate to break it to you We are in space right now. I know I know I could be less um Less ignorant of what it's doing, but you know what I mean. It's just like yeah, of course there's stuff Yeah, and we're on a letter O shaped planet. Yeah, they're everywhere Letters are everywhere if you look for it

It's also strange because if like, when two C shapes get pretty close, that also looks like a W, which is even more worrying. Oh yeah. You can make every letter out of X and C. You probably can. I mean, I think. If you.

That's one of those statements that sounds like, yeah, yeah, yeah, until you actually think about for even a half of a second, then it's absolutely not true. I think you could do it. An X is basically a T, isn't it? So that's T done. I mean, in the same way as you can make a circle out of little squares. I reckon if you get a couple of Cs on one side of an X, you could probably make a B. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Yeah, you can build a toilet cubicle with Coke bottles, but it doesn't mean that you should. This is what they should be studying. Yeah. What's the universe writing? And that brings me to our reviews section. As you know, we get our guest editors to review something out of five stars every week. Jaws, what have you brought in for us this week? I have decided to review the experience of realizing

that the reason wasps keep coming into your kitchen is not because there is a wasp nest in the ventilation shaft, but in fact because there is a wasp's nest in next door's ventilation shaft and the wasps keep flying into your one because they are confused. So that's the experience I'm reviewing.

My review, I would say this experience is a real rollercoaster. It's a real kind of like up and down thing. And as you go through it, you move through all ten of the main emotions. That's dread, stress, fear, irritation, confusion, dawning realisation, relief, joy, pity and amusement. You go through all of those. And finally, you resign yourself to simply killing every wasp that enters until your girlfriend tells you that she thinks that when wasps die, they release a chemical that tells other wasps to come and avenge them. And you're not 100% sure

about this, but it sounds like it's probably not worth risking it. So you then become a friend to the wasps. And every time they come in, you become a sort of kind caretaker and you put them under a glass and you put them out of the window and help them to freedom. And in that way, you sort of help them like weary pilgrims on their way and they sing songs about you and you become a sort of a god to them. So it's a real mixed bag. I would have to give it three out of five overall for that journey from kind of despair to elation to immortality in a way. I can't recommend it, nor can I say that it's all bad. Give it a try. This is why no truly great art gets five stars across the board, because by necessity something that contains both the sublime and the tragic is going to even out at about three stars.

It's got to provoke complicated emotions. I feel sorry for these guys. I think they'll die soon. I think they die in the autumn, do they? It's coming for us all eventually. Autumn. Alistair, what have you brought for us? Well, mine is also insect-based.

I've, in the last couple days, had a job where I've had to look at a lot of photos of insects and it made me feel yuck. But the experience, the specific experience that I want to review is looking at really close up photos of insects. Now looking at really close up photos of insects is even more yuck. One of the main things is that they have hairs as well, and their hairs are proportional to their little gross faces, which you think a hair would be like an arm to them, but it's not. It's just a hair. They have their own hair. That would be like our hairs hairs.

OK, so firstly, you have to look at that. And when you see their hairs and their bodies being proportional to each other it makes you think that the bugs could be the same size as you right and then you look at their disgusting emotionless faces and you and you think this thing doesn't like me at all. And it probably wouldn't like me because these things, most, a lot of insects, perform sexual cannibalism, right? Which means that they will eat people that are their lovers. So me, who isn't even one of their own species,

what chance do I have of not being eaten? And I probably won't even get to have sex with them. All right? And so there's that. And I have metamorphosis envy. So I am giving it four stars, one star for the actual looking and the experience and three star because it really made me feel something.

And I love that. And that brings us to our second last story, our TikTok story of the week. We don't always have a TikTok story, but when we do, it's this one, which is that the US government has filed a new lawsuit against TikTok for invading the privacy of children. Alastair, you have some children. You are also in the same, more or less, land mass as this act of government. Can you unpack this story for us? Sure.

Well, the United States, as you know, has already had a problem with TikTok for a while and its parent company, Bike Dance. And at this time, they are going after TikTok because they have not been they have been collecting the information of children, they've been allowing children to, to create accounts, create videos and things like that, and message people and whatnot. And then usually, according to the law in

America, in order to do this, they need to be able to get, need to get permission from the parents and they have not been getting that and they have been continuing to do it and then when parents ask to have the things deleted, they've been making it very difficult. Now I can understand this, I mean obviously I hate that they're blaming the parent company, you know,

maybe some child companies are just born evil, you know? But I think that, you know, deep down TikTok and you know, and bike dance, they just understand that actually kids just don't have any secrets. And actually none of the info is of any value. It's just every sentence, every sentence is just like somebody telling you

their dream, you know. This doesn't matter, this is just a great way for the Americans to attack this company that they think that maybe China is using to spy on people, right? And I'm admitting that I do think it is a great tactic and they're doing really good and it's been I think they're I think the companies now ticktocks already been banned in Texas and I find that really entertaining because all of the YouTube and the

The stand-up comedians are moving to Austin and I think that's really great Jaws I my favorite bit of this article was a My favorite bit of this article was a spokesperson for TikTok, their defense and this latest lawsuit was they said, we disagree with these allegations, many of which relate to past events. And I think that's a great new approach to law enforcement to be able to go, no, no, we did this. This was in the past. Not denying it, but like that's in the past. And I feel like it's, it's, the implication is that there's a very narrow window where you can only prosecute for a crime that's happening in the present. Because I don't think they can be talking about the future. That's like Minority Report and that's, that's the realm of sci-fi. So I think what they want is to

only be prosecuted for the things they're doing now. And if you miss that window, then they go, well, sorry, we did it. There's also a great bit where they say, when they're doing now and if you miss that window then they go well sorry we did it. There's also a great bit where they say when they're trying to justify the fact that like some some of this stuff has slipped through the net and they've not been fully doing what they're supposed to do, one of their defenses was that they said that the moderators only have a few seconds to make their decision on each bit of content which I just I always imagined that like the moderators on TikTok like their job is to kind of sit and look at each, it implies that the moderators are also addicted to TikTok and are just sat there scrolling going, yeah, that's porn, that's hate speech,

yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Oh no, I let it through. Or that they're in a dystopian present where they're being forced to do enormous quantities of work at an underpaid rate and ch turn through content without real regard for the safety of the people who they're meant to be protecting. Hypothetically. It's nice to know they're as addicted as the rest of us though, it's quite comforting. And that brings us to our final story of this week's episode of The Gargle and this is Olympics news. The real winner of the Olympics, I think, this year is Snoop Dogg,

who is currently a correspondent for the Olympics in Paris, and he seems to be just enjoying himself to a level that is extraordinary, including dressing up like an equestrian and dancing with some horses. Jaws, you've had a dance with a horse. Can you unpack this story? Yeah, best day of my life.

I loved that day. So yeah, this is the story that, so I didn't realize while reading this article that Snoop Dogg was the official correspondent for NBC on the Olympics. So initially I thought this was a story just about the fact that he was there and he was a huge fan. It's a bit like my Where's Wally idea. This idea that like you

have a kind of prominent figure in the background of lots of different things and you go, oh there he is, what's he doing now? And he has been wearing different outfits. He's been dressing up in horse riding gear for dressage. And I think he's been dressing up and doing like judo in the background of some of the martial arts ones or something like that. So initially I thought this is great. This is exactly my idea and this is going to save live TV. People can spot him and then write in and go, I saw him here, here, here. I saw him at the velodrome and then they get their reward. And then it revealed this article that he is, he's been hired by NBC and he's there to cover the Olympics, which sort of

just means that he's, he's doing his job basically. Like he's at the Olympics, he's enjoying it and he's getting the viewers into a sense, like his purpose is to make the viewers enjoy the thing. So the entire news story is just Snoop Dogg's good at his job. Well this is the thing about Snoop Dogg is that he has managed to articulate a persona that is so sort of densely itself that it sort of transcends context. With the kinds of work that he has done you would say that many many many years ago he sold out and yet he maintains the essential snoop doggness at its heart

that feels like while he may have sort of ephemerally sold out he's still fully representing the Snoop Dogg brand. Yeah it's like having a news story about the the athletes themselves being good like this news story based the headline is everyone's enjoying Snoop Dogg at the Olympics but you could also have one that says the athletes this year are really good people are tuning in I feel like it's a it's a fake story you know. Sure. Halister? This story really worried me for people who don't know who Snoop Dogg is and who are listening to the Olympics on the radio

and think that the Olympics have been plagued with some kind of prying canine. Right? But the thing is that he's actually been really good. Right? I would say that he's been D-O-Double G-Wiz fantastic. And why I think he's been good is because he just got this off of having a little kind of thing at the Tokyo Olympics with Kevin Hart where they would just watch some highlight clips and then make little comments. And his comments were enjoyed so much

that he made it to the Olympics, which I think for those of us who love to make little comments as a job, which is some of us present, right? I think that this has created a new Olympics, which is where we can now practice and we can now put up our things and train day in and day out

to try to get our little comments noticed in the same way. And then eventually we can go to the Little Comment Olympics, which is the regular Olympics, but then we dress up in funny clothes and we get to go and be there. And I think every country should get to do that. I think every country, like, I mean, we could, you know, Australia could send our own either rapper or Little little comment person. We could send Iggy Azalea maybe as our rapper. I don't know which accent she would do her Australian accent or the, you know, her black accent

that she kind of uses when she raps. But you know, whichever fits I guess depending on the event. My favourite thing about Snoop Dogg is, just like you were saying, the fact that he's never really had to change the essence of who he is. And that's more or less true, except that like, didn't he used to be called Snoop Doggy Dog? That was his name for a bit. And then he changed it to Snoop Dogg.

And I love the idea of going by Snoop Doggy Dogg, and then one day going, this is silly. This is embarrassing. I gotta take the doggy. It's just slightly too much doggyness. Yeah. I won't use my real, I'll still be called Snoop Dogg. I still want a stupid name, but I've gone too far.

I've gone beyond. And he's classy now. Well, I feel like at the early stages of his career, it might've been considered a trademark infringement on the original Snoop Dogg, who was Snoopy the Dogg from the Peanuts cartoons and it was only once he'd established in his own right his identity as Snoop that he was sufficiently able to distance himself from the dogginess of it all. So do you think that he had all variations

early on where it was Snoop Snoopy doggie dog Like that. Snoop the Snooping Snoop Dog. I also liked that a few years ago, he had a sort of a rebrand where I think he was saying that maybe he had been reincarnate, he was the reincarnation of Bob Marley and he started going by Snoop Lion very briefly. Really? And then I liked that he pulled that back.

Yeah. And then he's just gone back to Dog. I can't do that. And that brings us to the end of this week's episode of The Gargle. I'm flipping through the ads at the back. Jaws, have you got anything to plug? I'm doing three work in progress shows in Edinburgh next week, by which I mean three performances of one show, not three different shows.

That would be insane. And they're at Monkey Barrel on the 12th to the 14th in Edinburgh, so if you're at the Fringe, come along to that. And if it's all right to plug two things, in October I'm running a night of short film screenings and script readings at The Pleasance in Islington called Egg Box, where we're trying to showcase

a bunch of kind of great work made by the scripted comedy community, writers and filmmakers and directors. That's on the 1st of October at Pleasasant, so if you're in London and want to see some cool new films, come on down to that as well. They're all on my website or on my social media. That sounds brilliant and excellent. If you are in Edinburgh, go check out as many Garglers as you possibly can and tweet us about it at hello garglers or on various other social media platforms that you are on. Alistair, have you got anything to plug? At the moment I'll just plug to at Hello Garglers or on various other social media platforms that you are on.

Alistair, have you got anything to plug? At the moment I'll just plug To In The Think Tank, which is the podcast I do with Andy Matthews and it's just where we come up with dumb sketch ideas. They are excellent sketch ideas. Thank you so much. It's really our life's work. We have now 400 and something episodes and it's what I'm leaving to my children when I die. They can listen to that and find out who I really am or maybe reconstruct me using some

kind of ear-based genetics. I mean, I highly recommend it. It is a podcast that I listen to. So to anything Tank, I listen to Andy Virtual and Andy Matthew Andy Matthews, great minds thinking very differently in that context. I'll be in London from the 1st of September this month. And on the 8th of September, I'm running a writer's intensive workshop at the Bread and Butter Club in London,

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