The Glass Cannon Podcast - Giantslayer Episode 278 - The Mighty Ducts 3: The Ethereal March
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I'll try to scramble up the side.
Here we go.
Deep with an iron cloud keep.
Natural one.
The Deathbringer story ended.
You see her wallop him with the chain.
He falls slow motion.
Hits the ground and dies.
But with the rest of the party still pinned down.
Third attack is a natural one.
Oh, God.
The battle is far from over.
She looks down at her kill.
Looks up at you, Nestor.
Smiles.
The adventure continues.
It is the Inquisitor's turn.
Now. 278 episodes.
And it still doesn't get any easier.
Started with episode 50.
It's now happened several times over the course of this series.
And we talked about it.
We talk about it all the time.
It's endgame now.
People aren't
gonna survive uh but man it's a bummer when you lose somebody so close to the end and you lose
someone in such a spectacular fashion because it's just you can say like you were saying last
week joe that like it's high level play it's really rocket tag it's whoever rolls highest
initiative and that's that's fair that's fair they had a lot happening before you guys even got a turn but the sheer amount of bad luck y'all
had when your turns did come two misfires three failed climb checks like you just you can't you
can't have that many mistakes you're allowed like one at this level of the game. You think you can have five mistakes against the Storm Tyrant? It'd be a total party wipe. It's a bummer. He was a good dude.
He was a cool dude. He was the Billy Zane of this show.
So many ways. God damn it, Matthew. Listen to your friend Dalgrith. He's a cool dude. He's a cool dude.
Oh my God.
I could totally picture like a quasi-villain
having that conversation with Baron.
Like they're just nose to nose.
He just looks across Baron and is like,
you should listen to your friend Dalgrith.
He's a cool dude.
When Dalgrith or when Baron starts spouting off
his righteous religious nonsense.
As long as Bowie showed up the next scene,
I'd be thrilled.
You've had some time to think about it,
Joe,
probably not enough time.
Where are you at with all this?
You at peace?
Yeah,
I'm at peace because I saw it coming mechanically for a while,
but I'm more bummed than I expected.
I'm more bummed than I expected because'm more bummed than i expected uh because you
know i mean there was it's been a long time uh since there was any chance of dog wreath being
really effective in battle but like i liked him around i liked having him around and i really
enjoyed playing him he was somebody who like i felt i could i could get into his skin you know
what i mean i could like see things the way that he saw them and i had a little epiphany about him probably before probably in 2020 probably before the pandemic
that was just really enlightening to me about how you know anytime i thought of approaching
a combat or a situation with a certain degree of tactical cautiousness or uh over cautiousness i guess
it's more is more accurate like erring on the side of being like super safe with him and precious
with him uh i just was one day i just had this epiphany and was like i cannot do that like he
is the definition of the the superhero who's not stupid uh in the way that he approaches things but like
daring daring extremely bold laughs in the face of danger and and that was the the thing that kept
coming to mind for me was like you've built a character that you didn't realize it at the time
but what actually is a guy who laughs in the face of danger yeah anybody who would career-wise like
jump on giants and climb them like a tree,
I mean, yeah, you can't be a shrinking violet.
Right, exactly.
And so I felt like that change happened.
And so I was like, well, this might mark him for death, but that's fine.
And then I'm happy with how he went out.
I'm not happy in that, like you said, with the rocket tag thing.
It really does kind of suck because, yeah, there were some but like you had bad roles too multiple bad roles yeah which like we
would have been dead even sooner uh and not to assume you're all going to die but the dog earth
would have been dead even sooner and outside of that it's like there's uh dog earth didn't even
get an attack in the fight you know what i mean like that's kind of crazy
like to go into a fight full hit point i get no attack and not swing once and permanently die
uh is is kind of wild now it was because of two of those bad rolls one of you know three three
three of those bad rolls he would have gotten an attack with any of those three were good
um but it still wouldn't have done much you know what i mean in the grand scheme a lot of failed saves too though you know yeah start with the first poison
save and then of course the second poison save and dwarves are hardy against poison i had every
chance you know it's just it's tough when the die don't don't roll your way and if baron doesn't
misfire twice you know maybe you're clearing the room a couple of those spiders and he can get back in there and start drawing attention
away from her if i don't know metra are you okay with all your decisions i mean i should have i
think metra is just cursing herself that she shouldn't have listened to dog or the shooter
should have just gotten them out of there um because she could have gotten both baron and
dog out of there that changes that i mean it's a little different cause these spiders don't clog up this hallway
cause they can just shift out of the plane.
Yeah.
Um,
but yeah,
no,
she,
I think she definitely thinks she should have just been like,
I could have saved him and I didn't.
Hmm.
And then dog,
which obviously is going to go to phras's boneyard with this degree of
guilt.
And that the last thing
that he said to Metra
was coward.
He just yelled it down the hall.
He didn't mean it.
But it's too late to take it back.
He can't explain.
It was just a joke, Metra.
She doesn't know that.
She can't hear him.
She has a child.
She understands you were just lashing out.
Wow.
Never mind, I meant it.
Every word.
One of the reasons I truly wanted to stay back is because had that happened,
obviously we never know what would have taken place,
but the way it looked to me was that we were leaving Nestor to die,
like in a round, because there would have been four spiders right on him and her.
So I was very concerned, because I felt like I could tank her for a little bit.
I didn't know that she'd easily roll 45 to hit.
Yeah, once I took the combat expertise off, that was...
I rolled high, finally.
After rolling low, that was uh i rolled high finally after rolling well
that was the one that uh that counted but now you're you're i mean this is this is worse because
now there's three of you metro is obviously in a pretty safe position baron he's got a spider there
somewhere and there's still you know this thing's gonna come she's gonna come up on nester now who
knows what she's gonna do this is bad do you now. Who knows what she's going to do? This is bad.
Do you run?
Do you even have an opportunity to run?
Do you run after Nestor goes down or,
or,
or Baron gets stuck and gets killed?
Like what happens?
I guess we'll have to just play and find out.
Are you guys aware that Billy Zane is an abstract expressionist painter as
well?
So is Dalgrith.
That is wild.
Wow.
I'll be honest.
I would love to sit here and talk more about the woulda,
coulda,
shouldas and the how tos and the what will happen when,
but we don't have time to mourn right now because we have to finish this
fight and there may be bodies left on the battlefield that we'll have to
talk about as
well so let's just let's just jump right into the episode i uh i really want to play this out
i left west last week by saying that uh the inquisitor was moving up to strike nester
she is going to slide slide slippity slide right up to Nestor. Oh, God.
Trapped, sandwiched between a phase spider and a giant
Inquisitor. Let's take a look at her again.
Oh, no. Awesome artwork.
As she's
walking, she's swinging
that spike chain, and she will use it
to attempt to trip you.
Why? Because you can't
use a ranged weapon except a crossbow when you're on your back, and she wants to trip you. Why? Because you can't use a ranged weapon
except a crossbow when you're on your back,
and she wants to knock you down.
Here we go.
Oh!
Ah!
Terrible roll,
but very high chance of tripping,
and because she has improved trip,
she gets a plus two.
So, 39 against Sam.
Yeah.
Easily.
So she trips Nestor.
Nestor is now prone,
making himself more vulnerable to melee attacks.
And it's bad.
It's bad.
He stands up.
He provokes from the spider and her.
He tries to shoot.
He can't from his back.
Bad news.
Not as bad as maybe a spiked chain to the face,
but right up there.
It's round four.
I've been keeping good notes here.
She still has six rounds of blur.
Let's see if we last that long.
We won't.
It is one of the phase spiders' turn.
In fact, it is phase spider number three's turn.
Why is number three significant?
Because he's dead. Oh, good.
I can hear
you buying time, but I didn't know what you were
buying time for. That was it?
Yeah, he's dead. That worked out well for you.
Let's get rid of him. See ya.
And now it is Baron's turn.
Oh, come on, Baron. So Baron's gotta clear
a passageway for Nestor
to have some sort of chance to get away from this Inquisitor.
They can't see this board, but it's Metra at like where you first entered this corridor, way back up against the corner.
25 feet in front of her is Baron.
Somewhere in front of Baron, as far as you know, there's another phase spider that's on the ethereal plane.
30 feet in front of Baron is the first spider that he's
most likely going to be attacking and then 10 feet in front of that spider is the one that is
surrounding nester coin with the inquisitor on the other side and baron is in range of both of the
spiders so his action plan before he misfires on the first shot is to take down both of them and
maybe maybe get a shot off against this.
That's very cocky.
Number one, that you're going to kill both of them and get a shot off on the woman.
But I like where your head's at.
Number two, if you misfire here, that's a death sentence for somebody.
Yeah.
You know that.
Oh, and last round, it was, what, my third shot in I misfired.
So I actually have to spend a move action to clear my gun and spend a grip point,
or else I have the risk of misfiring again.
So you only get one attack.
Only one attack.
Although, under the effects of haste,
it's still only one if I take a single one, right?
You only get that bonus attack
during a full round attack action,
so that is a big old bummer.
Wow. Okay.
Well, now I'm upset.
Cleared. Let's take down one spider.
That would be good.
A fucking misfire.
Are you kidding?
It's a three.
It's a three.
Stiffen die.
Oh my god. It's a three. Stiff and die.
Oh my god.
Wait, and you definitely... Oh yeah, you do.
I'm glad I quit cleared.
Oh my...
Jesus, this is
very, very bad.
Isn't that part of the movie where you think the heroes are gonna
lose? Yeah, most movies
they don't actually lose. You don't have some writer that's just like oh well then they'll go like
this and everybody wins everybody feels good we just lost the dog with her who
cares and the good characters triumph but no not when you play the game for
real especially in an unplaytested
adventure.
Okay.
Okay.
Is that it?
I mean, it increases my
misfire range, unfortunately.
If it was still 1 to 3, but while my
gun is malfunctioning due to misfire,
the misfire range increases by one.
It's astounding.
Astounding.
This is why I always say, gunslingers are incredibly well balanced.
Because of the percentage of misfires that are rolled.
It balances out that you hit against touch.
Yes, by normal humans.
This sucks.
In the hand of Grant.
I probably won't even get another against touch. Yes. By normal humans. This sucks. In the hand of Grant. I probably won't
even get another attack off.
I'm down on the ground. If I
even stand up, I'll probably die.
Alright, so, look, I think a lot of
times in these episodes... We brought Joe in
as a color commentator today. And all
I'm doing is drinking beer and eating cookies.
So, there is a
time in a lot of these episodes
especially it really is i really have it's 9 a.m full time baby uh especially in these combats
that you know where things get really tense and troy takes a moment and he says what's going on
in your head what's going on the character's head What's going on in the character's head? And looking at this current situation,
I just want to throw it back to Troy.
And Troy, I want to know,
and be honest with us here.
Mm-hmm.
How much are you prepared to fudge?
And how much are you prepared to pull punches?
I don't fudge.
Okay.
How much are you prepared to pull punches?
Are you thinking, how can
I get the party out of this? Or are you thinking,
how do I write in the
new party? What's going through your head right now?
I've got a lot of things going through my head, but I've had the benefit of
having a week to really think
about it.
You know,
for me,
I'm not worried about pulling punches.
I think it's about being strategically fun.
You know what I mean?
I could have come up and just swung at Nestor.
I think it's a lot more interesting to trip him.
Uh, that's what she, that's what the tactics in the book want her to do.
It didn't work against Dalgrith.
Uh, do it here.
I mean, it's, you could argue it's worse for Nestor.
Um, but obviously I could have, I don't know how many hit points Nestor has left.
If I crit, I could just knock him down as well.
So, you know, you want to make it fun, but at the same time, it's complicated.
It's very, very complicated.
We all are GMs.
We understand the situation that I'm in, but I don't fudge.
And it's a fine line between being soft and being entertaining.
I mean, because the thing is Metra is still clear
of what's the melee.
As long as she's alive, she can get out.
You can focus a new party
around her.
So, I mean, it probably won't be a
TPK unless there's something we don't know.
But, I mean, all the rest of us
could die. This is true.
So, yeah.
So what this... Let's talk about these spiders here well
it's not it's not the end of my turn yet oh my turn ended no so i want you to have as much turn
as you want to have so here's here's the deal when a gun misfires uh currently my uh misfire
value has gone up by two so it's a one through five currently gross um should be i mean if i if i had no training it
would be a one through seven um so well trained yeah so here's the deal we're gonna have to get
out of here probably and i can repair this gun uh because it's a magical pistol i wasn't able
to repair the first gun that exploded because uh it was not magical at the time on the boat against the dude with a scar on his face
whose name I'm forgetting now.
It's Gary McJohnson.
I think Baron's got a great name.
Targ Singeskin.
Yes.
Singeskin.
Targ or Tark, I think.
Does Baron...
I think Baron wants to clear a path
to try to get Nestor out of here
and if his gun explodes
uh god
but it's still the first
attack so I could
clear with my other action and get more
attacks in later and not have to worry about it
so is there a world
right now where you can take two or three
more attacks but you run the risk of exploding the gun on each attack?
I can take four more attacks and risk it,
and that's why it's so mathematically difficult to do.
Right.
No, no, your round is over.
That's why we moved on, because your turn's over.
Oh, because you took the move action.
Yeah, you already cleared your gun this round.
Oh, that's right.
You took your one shot.
You misfired.
Oh, my God.
That's why it's so scary.
Oh, awful. Okay, well, that's it. That simplifies things for me, then. You missed fire That's why it's so scary Oh awful
That simplifies things for me then
I'm sorry I thought I was
That's why I was moving ahead
Let's make things a little more complicated
For you because this phase spider will move
Up to you and attempt to vital strike
Grab and poison you
Here comes the attack
Natural
One Again Here comes the attack Natural One
Again
Oh
Oh
Oh
I just hit the tray
And it turned into a 19
According to the caddyshick rules
That is a critical threat
It is unbelievable
But that's how the balance works
In these things
Let's see if it's enough to save you
I've always said neon green is a wonderfully balanced eye
Yeah, I've been sticking with neon green now pretty regularly
I have yet to see a 20
In the past, like, three or four reps
Alright, this one from Nick
In Yelm, Washington
Yelm
I've never heard of Yelm, Washington.
Yelp's biggest competitor.
What's up, Nick?
This one is the funny bone.
You bang your funny bone on something during combat.
You are staggered for 1D4 rounds.
Oh, what?
That is very painful for a funny bone.
Wow.
Well, you know what?
This creature does have eight funny bones.
So it's very, very...
Yeah, so something in its attempt
to, like, bite, it chips a tooth
on the ground and sends shockwaves
through it.
And that is enough to limit it to a
move or standard, which, you know,
especially with this ethereal stuff that takes moves
to...
That's, yet again,
amazing for you.
Couldn't have rolled a natural two,
but it's okay.
Roll a 1d4.
Okay.
For how many rounds it is.
Oh,
one round.
Oh,
damn it.
All right.
And that's its turn.
It is Metra's turn.
Okay.
This is it.
I mean, I can get Nestor out, but I can't.
Nothing happens for free.
You mean Baron?
Oh, no.
Okay, I got you.
I'm just looking to see if there's other...
She had pretty good reflexes,
so that narrows what I can do against her.
And because their fortitude is also going to be crazy.
Well, it makes those choices less desirable.
It doesn't necessarily cut them out,
but you don't want to pursue them
because her reflex save is so high, right?
Well, because I need to save Nestor,
and if she makes a reflex save,
nothing happens.
We also know from the Blood Reader, I had another plan that was going to buy us some time, but that is because she has a reflex save, nothing happens. Right. We also know from the blood reader, I had another plan that was going to buy some time,
but that is because she has so many HP, my power word blind is not available.
Oh, that's a good thing to know.
That's why I asked about it.
So I'm going to switch Baron andon and nestor oh whoa okay because
nestor is prone right yeah so you're not out of the woods because you're still prone but this
this spider is staggered so yeah it's way better actually i don't think it can take attacks of
opportunity if it's staggered right i don't think so either and i think and baron has not been hit
yet so yeah and he's way harder to hit than I am.
Especially with giants.
Because if Nestor stays where he is, he's dead.
And there's no way I can...
I have one possibility for just taking her out of the combat.
How high are the ceilings, by the way?
20 feet.
So I have one option to take her out of the combat,
and that is Hungry Pit.
I think a staggered creature can still make an attack of opportunity.
The wording of the staggered condition does not preclude a character using swift, immediate, or free actions when appropriate,
which would mean it can make an attack of opportunity.
Now, I can dig into this further if it matters, but, well, it will matter.
I mean, the spider is way less...
A staggered spider that can take one attack is way less
likely to kill Nestor
yeah for sure
than this lady is
so I can buff the hungry pit
and jack up the
and I can cast it with
persistent spell which would give it
it would have to roll again
against the...
If it saves on the reflex save, but her reflexes are pretty high.
What do you do? What do you do?
So I really think the only way to keep most of us alive
for the longest period of time is to switch Baron and Nestor.
What are you... Are you going to be able to get me out of there afterwards?
Possibly.
Oh, man.
Well, I have a misfire gun.
This is a gamble.
Totally defenseless. Nestor's totally defenseless. I know, I know, I have a misfire gun. This is a gamble. I'm going in there totally defenseless.
Nestor's totally defenseless.
I know, I know.
But the question is, are you...
It's fine.
I'm just talking about...
The question is, who's a better character?
No, no, no.
That's not it.
The question is, are you killing both of us?
Or are we...
See, all right.
No, no, no, no, no.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Because if she gets me out of there, I can still attack.
We can both attack.
If she doesn't do this, only you can attack, and I'll probably die.
Yep.
Okay.
I'm just talking it out loud.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
It may kill Baron, but at least Nestor.
He's at full HP, full AC.
Right, right.
Way harder to hit.
Way harder to hit.
Nestor is dead if we leave him there.
No, I mean mean it is a strategic
decision that could horribly backfire or could be the thing that saves the day
so uh please you can control the pieces on the board there i'd like to see you do it
i'm not moving baron i don't want to be responsible for what happens. So glad I'm already dead.
Metro will snap her fingers and the two of them.
Oh my God.
And Baron's prone too?
Yeah.
You take on all the conditions that that person had in that square.
He's missing teeth as well.
I'm going to get you out of it.
Stay alive. Snap. So Nestor's prone in front of one spider
baron is standing flanked by a spider and another inquisitor and then metro will move up to stand
right behind nestor oh man okay well don't do that yeah you want him to be able to five foot
step back to not provoke okay you stand diagonally to him?
I'll just leave a five foot space.
I want to be able to do stuff the next turn that I want to set up.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
That was Metro's turn.
Can I draw a potion off my belt as I move?
As part of a move action?
Nope.
Joe says no, you cannot.
Okay. I trust him, you cannot. Okay.
I trust him,
especially when he's really confident
and answers immediately
and rules questions.
I was halfway through a core slide.
I was halfway through a core slide
and a box of cookies.
It's the cookies talking.
You can draw a weapon,
but you can't draw a potion.
Or like a scroll.
You can't draw a scroll while you move.
Okay. As far as I know. Yep. Unless scroll. You can't draw a scroll while you move. Okay.
As far as I know.
Yeah.
Unless there's some shit feat that I didn't hear about.
Well, between this turn and the next, Metro, feel free to look it up and I'll retcon it.
It is Nestor's turn.
Nestor is prone, which means he cannot use his bow next to a spider.
Standing up will provoke, but you can crawl away.
I know, crawl away provokes his bow.
That would still provoke.
Yeah.
I'm going to go ahead and stand up, provoke.
Okay.
Stand up, provoke.
Oh.
Natty, 18.
So he strikes Nestor.
You guys need to get your cleric involved.
Okay.
25 points of damage.
Goes for the grab.
37 on the grab.
And then a fourth save on the poison.
I don't know what you thought was going to happen, Matthew.
Nestor was gone.
He was dead.
He's still alive now.
I think I failed the fourth save, too.
20.
Failed fourth save.
Jesus.
So the starting DC of that was 22?
22, yeah.
Man, God.
Some days I long for when I was temping.
That was my job.
It was like...
You don't mean that.
No, I do sometimes.
It's like...
Times like these.
Yeah, sometimes it just seems like a sweet, sweet release.
You take one point of con damage.
Okay.
If you'll remember from last week's episode, it was the con damage that ended up killing Galbred.
I tell you, man, like I'm right with you, Skid, because it's like as much as it's wonderful to be able to do this at 9 a.m. on a Monday.
to be able to do this at 9 a.m. on a Monday.
There's also like when it's bad and when you're eating shit,
you know that like a whole bunch of people
are watching or are listening to you,
like you're suffering.
Yeah.
Like I was suffering silently while I was temping,
but like no one was watching me file.
You know, nobody was watching me file.
Nobody was watching me do data entry.
And cheering every time you dropped a folder.
Yeah, fuck you.
That's a four classical pride.
Shut up.
No, this is a much more fun job.
But this sucks.
It does suck.
It sucks.
It's your favorite character.
I know. Wait a minute. I just. It's your favorite character. I know.
Wait a minute.
I just read something that is going to put an asterisk on this whole encounter.
What?
I can see ethereal creatures.
Oh.
You have to see ethereal.
My spectral shroud.
Mm-hmm.
Oh. The wearer can discern invisible or ethereal creatures as they're using invisibility.
Oh, my God.
Whoa.
Let the record show.
But wait.
Is it while it's active
like while you're ethereal or is it just constant constant what's it called my spectral shroud this
is the lance armstrong of tpks so i should be able to see any ethereal spiders now too by the way
you know it's so funny i'd have to go back but it must have been 10 maybe even more episodes ago i
asked you uh can you see what can you see can you see, what can you see? Can you see invisible? Can you see
ethereal? And you were like, no, I can just see invisible.
I think Joe even chimed in like, eh,
just invisible. And I specifically
asked you
in preparation for this encounter,
because I knew they were going to be on the ethereal plane. So I wanted to ask
you well in advance of you ever
getting here, even if you didn't
find this place so I'd know in my head,
because I don't have access to your character sheets.
And I probably should. I'm probably the only GM in America
that doesn't have your character sheets.
Never asked for them.
Don't you blame me for asking.
But, yeah.
Can you be ethereal without being on the
ethereal plane? No. If you're ethereal, you're on the ethereal
plane, right? Right. Yeah, so yeah, I could
see. You could have seen the webs.
And then you would have seen them coming. And you might have been able to act and i can see him right now you can see
him right now uh that's true it's a it's a real bummer but that's that's part of the game
knowing your character knowing your character yeah it's part of the game yeah responsibility
but like i should i should know that as well. That's why I asked. Wow!
You expect me to give Matthew a free pass?
Well, we're all part of this together.
But that's the game.
How's your new character coming?
I wish I was temping.
Let's work.
Matthew, so then if you can see them,
you can see that there is one
right behind us
right like
superimposed on
the one that's
standing right next
to Nestor
oh whoa
basically it's
it's on the
ethereal plane in
the same exact spot
as the one that's
next to Nestor
I was gonna reveal
it but it's gonna
get too confusing
okay
so I'm just
seeing two spiders
it almost looks
like a blur effect
or like
yeah
it's terrifying
it's gonna be weird
okay spectral shroud
it's so funny I
remember asking you this and I was doing
it purposefully because I
wanted to get that out of the way but you know what that's
we've all lost characters in a minute like ah
fuck alright was that
whose turn was that
that was mine right yes yeah because
it was an attack of opportunity oh that's just okay so yeah you're grabbed yeah but you still
have your standard uh well i mean i would have had to drop my dagger in order to start firing
with my bow after the last time that happened so i am i am i'm unarmed so i what do you have to do to break
out of it uh do you have a escape artist do you have some ranks in that uh oh yeah my yeah i i do
yeah i would say do escape arts the other thing is cmb
cmb is a little bit higher oh i should have invested in that. Oh, that is a natty 18, so that's 34.
Sit straight up against CMD.
Your CMD is 35.
Jeepers.
What a joke.
Natty 18.
Wait a minute.
Of a super rogue.
Let me put grappled on there.
33. 33.
Oh, man.
Okay.
Wow.
Oh, man.
Good call, Grant.
I was just going to check myself.
Nice.
So you actually do break out.
Nice.
Although it doesn't really matter because it goes before I do,
and it's just going to grapple me again.
I know, which is why I hate it.
It's the worst.
It is the worst. Can't someone, can't one of our top scientists figure out some way to
make these like the combat maneuvers work in a game yeah and then like the grappling and stuff
like that because like it makes sense to have grappling in combat like that is something that
would always happen but it's like how do you make it so it isn't so utterly ineffective to ever try
to get out of a grapple?
You know what I mean?
This is what Operation Paperclip should have been focused on, not the Space Race.
Should have been making fucking...
It's bad.
It's bad.
But you're out.
I will say, though, I think that the three actions helps in second edition.
Because, like, you can try to break out.
And if you get out, not only can you move away, you can also attack.
You know what I mean?
It's just the two actions. It's like you have to use your standard to break out, and if you get out, not only can you move away, you can also attack. Right. You know what I mean? It's just the two actions.
It's like you have to use your standard to break out.
Not a move, a standard.
Yeah, yeah.
So then all you have is a move, and then you provoke anyway.
Right.
And then they just grab you again.
It's so dumb.
It works every time.
So it's like...
Yeah.
Well, we're just finding all the little deficiencies.
And, you know, we're the finding All the little deficiencies And uh
You know
We're the first people
To play test book six
Of Giant Slayer
It just sucks that
Warner from Braun is dead
Because he could be here
Working on this
It was his life's dream
To fix the grappling rules
At finder first edition
Uh
It is now two spiders turns
Uh
This
These turns are so clutch Because basically by the end of this,
both Metra and Baron could be grappled and poisoned.
Yeah, that's the thing.
It's like you can't get Metra grappled.
Well, she can always Dimension Door around.
She's still got the mirror images, so chances are she'll be.
Actually, what I'm going to do here is the one that's next to Baron is going to delay
its action
because it helps out
her.
And then the one that was
that Metra can see on the ethereal
plane will
move
ethereally behind Metra.
Only Metra.
Only Metra can see that. Boink! And then appear.
Ugh. And vital strike
Metra.
This is the death music, Joe.
Sorry. Sorry. Preempted. Lost
track. Working on my character.
Okay. Not a good
roll. 27.
Of course.
Exactly.
No. Way above. Roll a d8. Roll a d8. No, way above.
Roll a d8.
Oh, a d7 now, right?
No, no, because you hit her last. Oh, that's right. Alright. Once again, an 8
will hit you.
7.
Alright.
Knocks out 7 images. Brutal.
Alright, so, uh, huge.
7 images gone.
You got one.
You got to get out of there.
I can't believe that.
It grapples one of your images and poisons it.
I've never seen anything like it.
The last poor image we hardly knew.
So sad.
Okay, and like I said, the other one is going to hold.
And it's going to hold because it's waiting for
the Inquisitor to go.
Top of round five.
I'm just going to delete Dalgrith from the
initiative tracker.
Top of round five. He wasn't
truly dead until just that moment.
This is
it here, Baron.
Survive this onslaught.
Good things happen.
You can fire a crossbow on your back.
Can you fire a gun?
We've allowed me to.
I have.
Why not?
One of the best ways to fire.
I can't think of a single example where someone lying on their back has been able to fire a gun.
Makes sense.
Talk to me about the sticky situation I am in between an Inquisitor and an advanced phase spider.
Well, the reason that phase spider waited for her is she has this ability called Outflank,
which gives her a plus four when flanking.
And if she crits you,
the spider will get a free attack
of opportunity against you. It's a fucking
great feat.
Especially in a situation
like this. But it's still
waiting. Is it my turn now?
No, it's her turn.
Here we go. And then the spider will go.
And then you.
So, because she has solo tactics, she's able to do outflank.
It's a teamwork feat.
You might want to look into it before your next Inquisitor.
And she still has Bane Dwarf, which will last a couple more rounds.
Combat expertise doesn't matter with you.
I'm going to keep it. No power attack. No combat expertise doesn't matter with you. I'm going to keep it
no power attack, no combat expertise.
Just
try and hit you the old-fashioned way.
Crits 19 to 20.
Plus four for flanking.
First one's going to hit you
unless I roll a natural one.
Stick it with neon green.
Okay.
40. Oh my god god 49 to hit that is a hit 45 yeah 49 to hit okay
a couple things are gonna happen i mean you know what's so crazy is that like
volsus is gonna be hitting higher than this i know i know and i can't imagine that we could have an AC that high by the end of this.
What kind of character are you bringing in, Joe?
All right.
So first with the regular damage, 26 points of regular.
Three points of bane.
Two points of fire.
Now roll against the energy drain.
Fortitude save.
Okay. Natural 20.
Oh!
Second attack.
Uh, nope.
What did you say?
As the flail hits
Baron, the beard
around him
animates and the tend You forgot the beard!
Animates, and the tendrils of the beard whiskers wrap around the flail.
Oh, shit.
So what is this?
Remind me the mechanics.
It's a CMB to try and disarm her?
It is a disarm.
Oh, God.
Doesn't provoke, because it's the beard doing it, right?
Correct.
My great Freemius beard!
My Freemius beard my freemius beard
24 oh that's her cmd probably does that god damn it what'd you roll a one oh oh it's a fail anyway
yeah great that would have been that would have been pretty epic I had all the moments like because you
just tried it a little while ago and it
worked so now you're like went back to the
well and of course it's just good screen
writing that's what that is for having not work
against her all right second attack
of four
there's a 20 coming okay
still getting that out flank bonus
when I prep this character I was like
oh man will I ever be able to get the flank
in there?
Plus four John?
Uh, 46 to hit.
Yes.
Man, are you rolling well?
Uh.
Are these middling?
Uh, no, I'm rolling well.
Okay.
I'm rolling over 15.
Oh.
Well, that'll do it.
Uh, 20 points of regular damage.
Two ones on D6s.
20 points of regular damage 2 ones on d6s
And then 8 points of bane
4 points of fire
Roll another fortitude save
Let me just make sure
That's not the type of thing
Where if you succeed on a fortitude save
You don't have to keep rolling
If you crit
You roll against losing
Two negative energy levels
Negative energy levels
That's great
Yeah, sorry, gonna have to give me their roll
Uh
27
That is a pass
Alright, the hit is going down here.
Will it be enough to be a miss?
She gets that plus four from the outflank.
Third attack of four.
Oh, just absolute rocks when I need them.
26, 30.
But still be close because you're AC against giants.
26, 36, 40 to hit.
That's exactly a hit oh phenomenal Oh GCP on
that d6 26 points of regular damage five points of Bane five points of fire I
need another Save
Two
You just like level people down
Bang bang bang bang bang
All the way down
She just
Natural 18
Okay
Final attack
Lowest chance to hit
Nestor would have been dead
You would have been dead after the first attack
Plus four
Because of outflank.
Critical threat here would give a free attack to the spider,
as well as a lot of other bad shit.
Might be enough to kill him.
Natural 20.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
20.
How many ones?
Matthew, I will gently move my die roll over towards you, as you can see.
It's confirmed.
Confirmed on a 20.
I do not fudge rolls.
Well, I confirm that it is a 20, but you now have to confirm.
That's right.
Lowest chance to confirm.
Oh, yeah, right.
It's not guaranteed.
No, just exploding dice.
Negative levels explode as well. Oh, my God. It's not guaranteed. No, just exploding dice. Negative levels explode as well.
Oh my god, this is so bad.
I'm starting to go through my head
all the bad things. Let's see if it confirms
first.
Okay, I don't think that's going
to confirm.
No, 31. Does not confirm.
Okay.
Oh, huge.
But that's like four attack rolls, like 15 or higher in one round of three.
I used to have rounds like that.
I used to have rounds like that.
One of them in this combat.
Sips from his flask.
23 points of regular damage.
Seven points of bane.
One point of fire.
Give me a fortitude save.
29.
Baron survived.
But what was the damage that Metra cost you?
Baron won't survive another round of that.
Baron might not survive another attack.
It is the phase spider's turn, and it's going to attack you.
Vital strike.
This is the one that waited.
It waited so that it wouldn't phase out of existence,
so that she could get that outflank bonus.
We've already claimed the life of one dwarf.
Will we claim one more?
I think we're going to be pretty close.
I don't know what your AC is against these spiders,
but that is going to be a 35 to hit.
A miss.
Oh. A miss. Oh.
A single beard hair.
Single.
Single little beard.
By Thremia's beard!
By great Thremia's beard!
It phases out.
Phase out!
Oh, boy.
It's Baron's turn.
What do you do?
What do you do here?
She's got reach.
You know she has reach.
Whereas the spiders didn't.
Luckily at this point,
Baron can full withdraw.
Can he not?
No.
Because she threatens. Oh, by the way. I mean, you can. You'll still provoke. One attack not? No. Because she threatens.
Oh, by the way, I mean, you can.
You'll still provoke.
One attack.
Yeah, you'll provoke once.
Flails don't have reach, do they?
I don't know, but she has a spike chain.
Oh, the spike chain doesn't have reach?
Okay.
Let me see what her situation is.
I think it's more about her size than the weapon. But she still wouldn't be able to attack right there but just checking in um okay yeah she'll only provoke once if you full withdraw
and you could try to avoid that as well with an actor you can only move half speed
which would be half of two move actions, right? Correct. Yeah, so I could move 40 feet still with haste on.
Oh, boy.
Man, boy.
Okay.
Well, you move half speed for the first move action
and then full speed on the second move action, right?
No, no.
It's not a full withdraw.
It's two move actions.
Okay. Right? Yeah, i guess if you i don't
know if you can take acrobatics checks as part of a full withdrawal because full withdrawal is a
full round action right if can you take acrobatics checks as part of it i would think probably but
then i think i would think it would have your full withdrawal speed uh or you take the acrobatic
you do the acrobatics check you do one acrobatics check. You do one acrobatics check, then another acrobatics check.
There is nothing in withdraw that would prevent acrobatics check.
Remember.
Remember that you're going to have to roll, like, a 47 acrobatics.
Or 46.
48.
Uh, was it 5 plus your CMD?
No, just your CMD.
It's 43.
Oh, right, because of combat reflexes.
Or, um, combat expertise was 48. So it's, right, because of combat reflexes, or combat expertise, it was 48.
So you'll have to roll a 43.
Can you do it?
Withdrawing from melee combat is a full round action.
When you withdraw, you can move up and double your speed.
The square you start out in is not considered threatened,
and therefore visible enemies do not get attacks of opportunity.
Yeah, we know that. Invisible enemies.
You can't take a five-foot step.
In the process of withdrawing, you move out of a threatened square.
If, during the process of withdrawing. You move out of a threatened square. If during the process of withdrawing,
you move out of threatened square enemies,
get attacks of opportunity as normal.
It doesn't say you can avoid it.
I wish that the rule was different.
I wish the rule was for,
for withdrawal. You don't provoke attacks of opportunity
from a creature you're in melee
with.
Because this reach stuff, it just kills it.
It's brutal. But I mean, it makes sense.
They're hard to get away from.
These large creatures. Oh, man.
Are you considering taking the acrobatics
because we'll look it up?
I am considering it.
But I just don't know what I would do after that.
I could run down one of these tunnels
and hope Metra could reach me if she can get out of there.
I mean, here's my plan, Baron.
Yeah.
I was going to switch places with you
and then put myself up there and then rely on your images rely on my images slash go
to the ethereal plane and face the spider on the ethereal plane to get and while you guys retreat
yeah you still have to fight your way out there because you're you're still you'll be sandwiched
between two spiders so wait you can't quicken a dimension door? No.
I couldn't even. It's too high a level.
And I also don't have any more charges
on the rod. I've used them all
in this combat. Oh, you used all three? Oh, jeez,
man. Really? Yeah. What did you
do? Fireball. I used
one in the combat against the
statues, and then I used fireball
and also the mirror image.
Ah.
That's two.
There's three.
And I use one against the statues.
Previous combat statues.
Did I miss one?
Mirror image, fireball.
One against the statues.
Previous combat.
Oh, you did two fireballs.
You did one in this combat?
One fireball, one mirror image.
Oh, I can't remember what it was, but something something against the statues maybe it was mirror image against the statue
yeah gotcha um i mean yeah i'll hold i guess if you want to try to do that if that seems like our
best way out now yeah i mean i'm sitting at 44 hit points so if I if I
gamble wrong I'm dead yeah I'm 31 I mean it feels like a TPK now yeah I mean
there are if you can get away from her I can't really whether reach yeah this
there goes against a spider I could get away I think you just you should hold
that's I think our best bet is for you to hold and wait for metro to do okay so where do we leave off
or total defense i think she'd still hit him yeah no i agree but like give yourself a chance
um if you're just gonna stand there anyway i think i have a better chance against the spiders
and i think metro has a chance the spiders aren't dealing out crazy damage she's dealing out 36
points of damage like men basically
She's doing at least 33 and I have 31 hit points left
I mean, here's the thing if I get to her and she and I decide to gamble and go with the mirror images
Then I can get myself out right if I have to if I decide I'm I can't risk taking a hit from her
I'd have to eat their stuff which then puts me on the Ethereal Plane with the spider.
It's so fucked.
It's so fucked.
This whole situation is designed to kill us.
And on top of that,
if I take the Aether Step
and she decides to stay where she is,
maybe she can see invisibility,
then I cannot do anything but move the next round,
which means that I provoke for being not,
which means I'm dead.
She seemed to come out of the ethereal plane herself too, right?
She did appear in similar
to them, yes. So really my
only option would be
to risk the mirror images.
And if you go down, Baron and
then we're all, then it's a TPK.
Out of there. Then it's a TPK.
Yeah, so, I'm sorry, in none of
your conversation did you mention teleporting.
Like, why don't, you're just not gonna consider that option? Well, I would like to teleport with somebody, so, I'm sorry, in none of your conversation did you mention teleporting. Like, why not, you're just not going to consider that option?
Well, I would like to teleport with somebody, so I could grab Nestor and teleport.
Yeah, that's, you bet you could do is five foot step, teleport Nestor out of there.
Yeah, that's it, that's your only option.
It used to be Baron.
You could have just five foot step, take Baron, teleport out.
Just leave Nestor to fucking die.
Or Baron just starts running through these corridors not knowing where they lead.
I mean... It jumps out the side.
That's, yeah. And prays for a
hero's fall. That's 20d6.
Can you teleport on the
ethereal plane? Because you could get
us out of there. Nestor and I could try to run
and you could teleport out and at least get people back.
The only way I can get onto the ethereal plane
in any way that would mean anything is if I use
the ether step spell, which then means I cannot take any action.
I immediately return to the material plane in the next turn, and then I cannot take any actions except for a move.
There are those who frown upon allowing this type of talk, but I think it is fascinating and clutch, especially when a TPK is at stake.
Talk it out.
A TPK is at stake.
Yeah.
Talk it out.
I don't think you're running out of options. And, you know, you're really stuck here with another Sophie's choice.
You and Nestor could get out of there and live.
Yeah.
But then Baron would almost certainly die.
I mean, he could switch places with Baron and hope that she doesn't hit you.
And you don't have the turtle, the turtle shell. No, I got rid of that.
But then Baron and Nestor
really don't have the means
of getting out of there.
The other thing we could do is
I can try to Hungry Pit her.
Oh, that's probably the best.
And I can cast it as a Persistence. No, it's terrible
because that leaves me
vulnerable to a hit from this
spider, which will almost certainly kill me. Right, but if terrible because that leaves me vulnerable to a hit from this spider.
Which will almost certainly kill me.
Right, but if she goes down, I can take out the spiders and if you guys don't go beneath your
constitution, I have the means to heal both of you with
Cure Serious Wounds.
And a bevy of other healing spells.
I don't think we're going to survive that long.
Even if she goes out.
But at least Baron will.
But yeah, Persistent Linking.
Baron will survive. All Pers's got good reflexes. But at least Baron will. But yeah, persistent Linking. Baron will survive.
All persistent is disadvantage.
Yeah. Why do you think I couldn't
save you? Because you'd have to kill
two spiders. And we're standing
between, me and Nestor are standing
between the second one out of your range increment.
Yeah, but it's not going to keep on attacking you
while you're down. More than likely.
It's probably going to take me beneath my comp.
It's not doing 52 points of damage in an attack. It's going to to take me to eat my comp. It's not doing 52
points of damage in an attack. It's going to vital strike
me. It will hit.
Well, you have mirror images.
We're gambling on the mirror images. I say gamble on the mirror
images if you're up to it.
So what, you're going to hold? You're going to hold?
I'll do hungry pit and then
hopefully she falls and then I'm going to
come and try to take out the spiders.
If she doesn't, it's TP cut.
Yeah.
It puts the roll in her hand.
And Troy will roll well.
I think it's worth trying.
Oh, man.
Because I would like to be able to come in, and if either of you go down,
I don't think either of you will go below your con, or I'm hoping not.
I'm hoping to be able to heal you.
I think that's our only way. I think the hungry pit i think that's all whose turn is it right now it's baron's it's baron's yeah baron you can't do five foot step and um disappear and go back
to your life as a simple farmer and i can see all i can see all of the spiders are where they are
right there's one of the ethereal plane that you've taken off the map that I should have.
Yeah, it's right. It's still flanking Baron.
Okay.
Right.
So, if you do the hungry
pit, I think it's a gamble, but
it's... Don't tell me the odds.
I think we can do it. I think that's our best chance,
and I think we can potentially get three of us
out of here. It's DC 21. It's not a great
DC. I get two chances, and you've out of here. It's DC 21. It's not a great DC.
I get two chances.
And you've seen that the reflexes are pretty good.
Good fail.
I just don't think the hungry pit's likely to happen,
even with the persistent spell.
If it works.
Matthew, at the end of the day,
you take counsel from everybody,
but then you make the call for Maitre you take counsel from everybody yeah well you got to do what's best for the bear if i can
take counsel from uh metra as to what she'll do i'll make my decision metra let me walk you through
the initiative here i think it's uh you should be able to know this by now.
Baron goes.
If you decide to delay, the spider next to Nestor goes.
Nestor's grappled right now, right?
Oh, no, you escaped the grapple.
Yes, he escaped the grapple and is just standing there.
So that spider goes, could very well attack, grapple, could crit,
and could put Nestor down.
Then it's Mestra's
turn. So it's Baron, Spider,
Mestra, Nestor,
Spider, and Quisitor.
The other thing I could do is
grab Nestor, Dimension Door him up to a
secure location, and come back for you
if you can stay alive. So if you can get away
from her... He won't stay alive!
He's got 30 hit points. If he can avoid alive. So if you can get away from her. He won't stay alive. He's got 30 hit points.
If he can avoid the attack of opportunity.
That's the way that works.
Here's the thing.
And I'm not advocating for this.
If you get Nestor out of there, you guarantee your safety.
But you almost certainly kill Baron.
Safety.
But you almost certainly kill Baron.
Any other option is one of those hero's risks that could work or could kill all of you.
You going unconscious is the worst thing that can happen to everyone.
To the adventure.
When I put Grant in danger, I don't think he's ever going to see it that way.
Yeah.
I think you, Matthew. Now if we can pull it out, right?
Let's really macro this.
I think you, Matthew.
You're so happy right now.
Your skin and your character's already dead.
Oh, I would hate to play a high-level caster in this
and have any responsibility.
It would be brutal.
Matthew, let's take this out to a macro level.
You, Matthew, as a person, as a player,
will have to deal with
just slightly less
constant vitriol
from Grant if you also
die. So it probably
better just kill yourself so that at least
you don't get out of there and he dies.
Because you'll hear it for years.
The mirror images give you
a huge opportunity if you switch
places with Baron.
But one or two hits from her.
One crit or two.
Well, don't forget, her bane is against dwarf.
So you're not going to take the bane damage if it does hit you.
You will take the fire damage.
You will take the regular damage.
And it's a lower to hit.
Yeah.
If she crits you, it's game over.
She'd probably have to hit you twice out of her four attacks.
I have 44 hit points.
Yeah.
So I would say twice out of her four attacks to take you under unless she crits.
And you've got seven images.
So I'd roll a D8.
Six images. And if I roll an eight, I'd have to reroll and see if I could.
I think those images are.
Six images.
Those images are good insurance.
Oh, six. So you have. Yeah. I think those images are good insurance.
Oh, six images. Oh, yeah.
I mean, the likelihood is very high.
I think it's highly likely that you wouldn't die with that many images.
Yeah, you have a ton of images.
She has four attacks.
I'm saying mathematically.
It's more likely that you won't die than that you will,
whereas with Baroness, it's more likely that you will die than that you won't.
All right.
I'll switch places, but it could be the end.
I mean, yeah. I'll switch places, but it could be the end. That's, I mean, yeah.
I'll switch places.
It is incredibly heroic.
It may be the deciding factor
in this adventure.
So are you holding?
Yeah, I'll hold for that action.
So Baron, oh, you can't switch now.
Excuse me.
Yes, I can.
It's not your turn.
It's the spider next to Nestor's turn.
So Baron holds. It's the spider next to Nestor's turn. So Baron holds.
It's the spider next to Nestor's turn.
Nestor escaped that grapple.
So we will now...
We need a miss.
We're not going to get it, though.
Oh, wait. Was this one that was staggered, right?
Yes.
But it's like an attack.
It doesn't matter.
It's right next to me.
Can it attack and grapple? Yeah, the grab is part of the attack. It doesn't matter. It's right next to me. Can it attack and grapple?
Yeah, the grab is part of the attack.
I think it's been a few years since I've played
a Pathfinder encounter that didn't have a creature
that attacks and free grapples.
It's every single encounter.
It's every single one. In every adventure.
Okay, it is the
spider next to Nestor's turn.
He will, of course, do a vital
strike. There have been natural ones
rolled.
It's a good 5% chance
we could all walk out of here alive.
This could change
your tactics, Vetra, if
Nestor gets grabbed, and you have to assume he will.
Let's see.
Not a good roll.
23 to hit. Okay, that's a miss yes that is a miss natural five we're back in it okay back in it uh okay okay i thought that was a slam dunk grapple
uh everyone dies i think everyone's still gonna die here but i'll leave that up to you
it is metra's turn
Followed by Nestor
And Baron can act at any point
No pressure
But whatever you decide
Will determine the lives
Of you
Metra will switch places with Baron
Baron!
Metra will switch places
With Baron What are you gonna do? Do it fast What are you gonna do? Do it fast Just between you and me Metro will switch places with Baron.
What are you going to do?
Do it fast.
What are you going to do?
Do it fast.
I'm going to ask you this, just between you and me.
They can't hear right now.
Are you doing this because you think it's the right decision
or because you'll feel bad for Baron dying if you don't?
I think they're all equally bad decisions.
I don't want to deal with Grant hating me for the rest of the time we work together.
It's a tough call. I feel that every way.
It could be really inconvenient.
When Pembroke died, I didn't think Skid would ever talk to me again.
I'm so used to killing your characters.
I'm only talking about a professional courtesy.
I appreciate it.
But when Nestor goes down,
I assume we'll just meet and work together.
We won't actually converse.
It'll be like the Eagles. We'll take separate planes to the events
and never speak.
I nearly sacrificed Baron to save Nestor,
so I think Skid and I are going to be okay.
Yeah, you guys are going to be fine.
I appreciate that.
And now Grant can't say anything about me.
Wait.
Can't?
No.
Oh, okay.
Because my character is almost certainly going to die.
Yes, you have put yourself in harm's way for sure.
All right.
Well, is that your whole turn?
Do you have any quicken, Jimmy John?
Do you not have any quicken Johns?
Flim flam.
You know what I'm going to do?
Skimmy scam.
Meta John.
You know what I'm going to do?
What?
I'm going to take a five foot step backwards.
That's good.
Right down to an ethereal spider, forcing him to move.
Yes.
You see that.
You're just like, you're walking
right into this spider that you can see.
Free action.
Defying middle finger at the ethereal spider.
The spider says, you should have
known your powers.
You would have seen
me three episodes ago.
Second middle finger. Two middle fingers.
Okay.
That is Mettra's turn. Nestor and Lysbaran have something he wants to do. middle finger two middle fingers uh okay that is mattress turn nester unless baron has something
he wants to do baron is going to take his action he's going to five foot step well no he could
still be hit by the spider there right so he's gonna five foot step towards nester now they're
back to back he's going to move action clear clear his pistol Wait, where are you Baron?
You're in a weird place on my map
I am immediately back to back with Nessar
In between two spiders
He's going to move action, clear his gun
Another grip point gone
Without any up close and deadlies being spent whatsoever
And he's going to waste the spider behind him
Here it comes
Natural 20.
Oh, get the fuck
out of here.
That is unbelievable.
28 to
confirm. That is confirmed,
Crit. It had three hit points left.
Oh, my God.
Sometimes it benefits us, though.
Yeah, absolutely. I forgot about that. Fair enough.
Fair enough. All right, let's pick one quick here, then.
Oh, sorry.
Where was I?
All right, let's go to Dylan in Michigan.
Dylan.
Dylan.
In Michigan, this one, simple for skid.
You strike the target with such gusto, it might actually appease skid.
Roll another d20 if the result is 15 or higher it slightly breaks the game and deals triple damage otherwise skid remains
happy and it's double i'm not happy well it's not happy so no lingering effect it's just dead
okay and that there you go dylan thank you dylan thanks for trying is that you managed to still
make skid no human being alive has been
successful at making me happy today so good try why try now uh baron that's your turn even though
you only five foot step because you cleared yeah because clear was a move action nester what would
you like to do nester is going to take a diagonal five foot step back and unleash on the spider in
front of him first of the many shot with the study target.
That is a hit for sure with a natural 12.
Yes!
Come on!
Oh, you fucker.
Oh, you son of a...
Oh, I hate everything.
45 points of damage.
45 points of damage. 45 points of damage.
Still up.
Second attack.
Come on, come on.
30 to hit.
And the spider falls.
Yeah!
Okay.
Two spiders in one shot.
Okay.
Two more attacks left.
Turns his attention to the giant.
Oh, that's probably a miss.
That's a 29 to hit
29 is a miss
Okay, fuck me
And, uh, yeah, another miss
Fuck, fuck, fuck
We're down to one spider sitting on the ethereal plane
Superimposed over Metra
And it is that spider's turn
Now here's the one thing you did right And it is that spider's turn.
Now, here's the one thing you did right.
You stepped over the ethereal space where this spider lies,
where the last spider lies.
So if it chooses to attack you this round, it needs to move to a space that isn't where you're standing,
shunt itself into reality as a Swifty,
take its attack, maybe grapple,
and then it cannot phase back out.
So the good news is, whether it hits you or not
and grapples you, most likely Baron and Nestor
can just pepper it up post-grap.
I could be dead, though.
You could very well be dead, in which case they would be like,
just running back to the engine room to jump through the moon door.
After the spider, she will go.
Oh, my God.
But you know what?
Let's deal with the spider first.
How did I let you talk to me?
Guilt's a powerful thing.
All right.
Well, I'm going to move it on the uh gm level and
then i'm going to bring it to the toke level that's token if you're following along at home
i don't have a lot of time i have to shorten words like token to toke wasted so much time
explaining that except choke has another level, another meaning, which
just adds a layer of confusion.
We don't support that type of
drug use here
in our PG studios.
Airport, shmairport.
Matthew, how many images
are there of you? Not of you, but of Metro?
The wheel hero?
Troy really is drunk.
Matthew, how many am I supposed to see
Sorry I have toked before the sesh
I wish I had toked before the sesh
This is stressful
There are six images so seven metros
Seven metros so it will hit
With the roll of a seven on a d7
You brought your d7
I did oh shit I didn't all right session canceled all right here
we go uh this is the role to attack i imagine you still stick it with neon green one moment please
oh two can play at this game measure will step onto the ethereal plane Oh, a little flip-flippy. Flip-flip-a-roo. Really?
So an immediate action ethereal jaunt.
Ether step.
Ether step.
Okay, and you can do that without provoking.
That is a good question.
I guess I should roll to cast defensively?
It's an immediate action, right?
So it's a spell time of immediate, basically?
Yes.
Yeah, I guess you would have to roll to cast defensively,
because she is threatening you.
Yes.
As well as the spider, but the spider's busy.
Anything but a natural one, I get it.
I get it with a natural 17.
Beautiful.
Casting defensively, you're automatic,
except for 7th-level spells?
6th and 7th-level spells.
6th and 7th-level spells. All right, so you're on the ether, the ethereal plane. You're automatic except for seventh level spells. Sixth and seventh level spells. Sixth and seventh level spells. All right, so you're on the ether, the ethereal plane.
You're trading spaces.
That's amazing.
It's a Scooby-Doo chase in the hotel.
The attack still happens.
That's its turn.
And the only reason that's relevant is because I rolled a natural one.
Oh!
Oh my goodness!
And it only gets one attack, so that is a confirmed fun.
Wow.
Let's get something juicy.
Come on.
I'll look something up real quick where it's like all of your allies take a minus eight to hit for this in combat.
Give us a comment.
Wow, that really changes things here.
Because I can't, I'd have to double,
I'm talking about the Inquisitor now,
I'd have to double move to get up next to Baron and Nestor.
That's really your only option
unless you want to be blown away by Baron and Nestor.
I know.
That guy has a gun.
I have to stab him before he can shoot it.
Wow.
All right, this one from Chris in Waynesboro, Pennsylvania.
Hi, Chris.
Waynesboro.
Uh, roll one.
Ahead, that is.
Your attack goes awry.
The fumble lops the head of the nearest ally in melee range,
dealing normal damage.
If no ally is in range, you hit yourself with the attack.
In either case, the recipient of the hit may make a reflex save for half damage.
So it hits itself.
That's cool.
It would be funny if it just missed and lopped off the Inquisitor's head.
That would be amazing.
It would be the best end of this of this episode it swings at metra
she vanishes and cuts right through her into the through this guy's head bites off the inquisitor's
head oh it'd be amazing fin uh all right so reflex save against my own ac i made it so do i still
take damage or it's half half damage half damage. Okay, well, that's a lot of damage.
I know.
So it'll take eight points of damage.
Oh, this one really hasn't been touched at all.
So that one takes eight points of damage,
and that's the end of its round.
Wow. Because it used its attack,
cannot grapple you,
and now you're ethereal.
And it's the Inquisitor's turn.
Oh, man.
At the top of a new round.
Don't forget, she is effectively blurred,
so 20% mischance against her.
Oh, wow.
This is a game changer
I was all ready to like
Give a speech about like
What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do here?
If she
Kills
Metro
Or
You know
Mames her
Are you just gonna leave?
I still don't know
What you're gonna do
Because I don't know
What she's gonna do
This could still end very badly
Yeah
This is a momentary reprieve
Yeah we really still Don't know I don't think This could still end very badly. Yeah. This is a momentary reprieve.
Yeah, we really still don't know, I don't think, entirely what she's capable of.
Yeah, she's got a whole list of spells she hasn't let out yet.
It was, she killed Doggerth with barely an effort.
She did next to nothing and killed Doggerth.
Well, you know what it is. It's the negative levels.
Oh, yeah.
That's what's going to get you.
Energy drain.
Energy drain's going to get you.
Energy drain's going to get you.
That's what they say.
Oh, God.
All right.
So at this point, I think you don't know what you're going to do,
so we'll say it's a delay.
She delays.
Come on, Troy.
Three, two, one. What do you do? Shut a delay delays come on three two one what do you do try three two
he's drunk with power his character is dead he can say whatever he wants
he's invincible he's invulnerable i am vulnerable the other thing that was unclear to me which i
think we may have asked about was she also on the ethereal plane or could she see the ethereal plane?
She was also on the ethereal plane.
That's the thing.
So she hangs out with ethereal creatures.
She hangs out on the ethereal plane.
Who's to say that she can't join you there?
This was the risk.
Right.
All right.
She is going to delay.
Maybe if Baron and Nestor can see through the dim light in this tunnel,
the light that's only coming down from the ladder,
you see a wry smile across her face as if to say, nice move.
Touché.
Touché.
I see you're not as dumb as the dwarf.
As the now dead dwarf.
Come on. Come on.
Come on!
I really didn't expect this.
Okay.
Finish it.
I believe it's round six.
That was the start of round six.
She only has so much blur left.
And it is Metro's turn.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
What you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?
I will also delay
Oh
Okay
Two can play
Wait are you now
No longer ethereal?
Well okay
Actually that's a good point
So the ether step
Lasts until the beginning
Of my next turn
Which would be
Now
Unless you delay
Unless I delay
Oh come on
Yeah but I
Don't make me look
Google this
I really don't think that's a thing.
Because I really think, like, let's say.
That's like when the auntie comes around to you and you're like, I'll wait.
Yeah.
Tap the table.
I'd like to see if everyone.
I have to use the bathroom.
No, think of it this way.
On the bad end, right?
If something bad was going to happen to you.
So you have a poison, a con poison, that when it ticks next round, it's going to kill you.
Yeah.
And the turn after you is the cleric who can pass remove disease.
You can't delay until the cleric goes.
You know what I mean?
And then not tick that poison.
Can't you?
I've read something along those lines before that you can't delay to postpone the effects of things like that.
Here's the other thing.
It's like it's the start of your turn right now,
and you're choosing to delay.
Yes.
Do you know what I mean?
Delaying is an action.
Yeah, it's still the start of your turn.
You couldn't get the option to delay
until we got to the start of your turn,
where you become visible back on the material plate!
Surrounded by a spider and an inquisitor.
Here's the issue.
This was the risk, is that now
the only thing I can do
is move.
I can only take move and free actions.
Oh.
But you can't move anywhere.
You're flanked!
So I will delay.
So you reappear and delay.
Oh my god.
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense, right?
If they can take out the spider, then you
can just run away. Yes, and only
take the attack of opportunity. Of course,
she could go right now.
She probably will. She probably will.
So... Oh, right.
Oh my god, this is like
seeing the last couple moves in our chess match yeah
so intense what is the queen's gambit six images oh i just found my d7 i will move i will take my
turn i'm not gonna i'm not gonna leave it up to i'm not gonna leave it to chance where are you
going to move do you have a plus 40 to your acrobatics? I have a pretty good acrobatics
And I have an even better acrobatics
If I'm trying to move
Through enemy space
When the enemy is larger than me
Are you going to move through the giant spider?
Or the giant giant?
I'm going to move through the giant spider
The giant giant
Okay
Now remember
There are six
There are seven of me
Uh huh
And a little fact
I always forget
Is that you're not the only one
With a blur effect my friend
Oh
There's always
There is a constant
20% mischance on me
There is
For what
For my tattoo
Oh okay
Oh nice
You activated that
And that just stays
It is not
It's not an activatable effect.
It is as long as the tattoo is visible.
I've got to get some pink done.
What do you have, 15 tattoos now?
How many two tattoos?
Damn it.
They say you get addicted after the first one.
Metrobound, she really liked on the shadow plane.
I was under the impression this one was on the small of your back,
which means it's not visible, which means no blur.
It's on my neck.
Seems like a fair ruling.
All right, let's go.
It says party in the back with an arrow pointed towards your pooper.
So stupid.
I'm glad you're having fun.
I'm so stressed.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
I just want to make them laugh.
So this is a... The need is so stressed. Oh, boy. Okay. I just want to make them laugh. So out of character.
The need is so strong.
So out of character.
Plus 22 to my acrobatics.
Okay.
Against this creature.
Ooh, that's...
Yeah, the thing is, like, there's a couple of fail-safes.
You could fail, and then it misses you because of your mirror image.
Or, like, you might succeed.
So you've got some options here.
And technically, I think I will be provoking
from both the spider and the...
Nah, you're fine.
It's just one roll, though.
Because it's one square you're leaving.
Yeah.
One threatened square that's being left.
Yeah, but it's five plus the enemy's CMD,
and there's two different CMDs.
Fair enough.
Both of them could take an attack of opportunity.
Right.
Yeah, so first you've got to try and avoid her attack of opportunity.
Five plus the enemy's CMD.
What's your bonus?
22.
Well, hold on a second.
It's five plus the spider's CMD, but not the giant.
Correct.
So it's just flat against her CMD to see if she strikes out at you.
Well, hold on a second, because he's going to fail that.
So before we do that, he's not moving out of the square until he fails the acrobatics.
I mean, until he makes the acrobatics check against the spider.
What comes first, the chicken or the egg?
That's true.
It wouldn't provoke if you fail because you won't move.
You won't move.
So the roll is first to see if you move through the spider's space.
If you do, then you provoke from her, which you have a chance to try and avoid.
Good call, Joe.
Natural 20.
Oh, my God!
Oh, wow.
All right.
Okay.
What is the total out of curiosity?
42. 42? 42.
42?
Yeah.
All right.
So you are able to move through the spider's space.
So now I have to roll again to avoid, or is it the same roll?
It's the same roll.
Joe says it.
Why not?
Because it's still a fail.
Well, yeah.
So here's the thing
So you're going to make it through
No matter what
Because she doesn't have the grab ability
Not so fast
But you could hit me
But I could hit you
And actually
What's your bonus?
Plus 20?
Plus 22
So you rolled a 42 then
That's what he said You never listen to me Plus 20? Plus 22. Plus 22. I thought you rolled a 42 then. Oh, no. Yeah.
That's what he said. Oh, okay.
You never listen to me.
Even if you got a natural 20, you would fail.
Right. On this.
Unless a natural 20 is an automatic success. Is that not a thing?
It's not. It's not because it's not for
skill. Skills. Skill check. Yeah.
And you would have just missed it because
it's a 43.
That skill check really makes sense with knowledge checks in particular.
Because if you have, like, plus one and a knowledge and you get a natural 20, you shouldn't know theoretical physics out of nowhere.
Right.
It gets murky because CMB and CMD is in the attack family.
Right.
You know what I mean?
But I'm going to say she tries to hit you.
And will probably do so.
But will it just take one of those Miriams away?
What if she rolls a natural one?
That would be amazing.
I was wrong, by the way.
I do have to activate the Swirling Smoke tattoo,
which I think I can do.
It is an immediate action.
I think I can do it because I used my immediate action last turn.
This is a new turn, right?
New round, yeah.
You used your immediate action on someone else's turn.
Oh, that's true. How does that, so that does that tick um so yeah that won't that won't it hasn't been around
since then so you're so you don't have the blur oh how does it usually forget this stuff i know
it's so complicated i think the way it works is if you use an immediate action you for
forego your swift action in the coming turn, like your next turn.
I think that that's how it works.
I remember reading something about this before.
It definitely works like that, but I can't remember if it also works.
With an immediate action, couldn't it be your
saved immediate action
from your last go? Would it have to be the
next one you would use? Couldn't it be the last one you would
have used? I know it doesn't work that way
with other actions.
You're right you
cannot use another immediate action or a swift action until after your next turn if you have
used an immediate action when it is currently not your turn wow so i have to wait until so i cannot
use all right so you don't get the blur but you still got the mirror images there's a question i
have would blur apply to mirror images if it were yes oh that's great it's a blurred image that's
great that you're swinging at.
So you would roll the mischance
before you see if you got one of the images
or you. Got it.
Here is the attack
with the flaming spiked chain.
Can you take a
swift action?
As an attack opportunity?
No. At any time? No.
It's on the immediate. On your turn.
Well, I think you can actually.
I think you can take a swift action
any time you can take a free action,
but you can only take one per round.
Right.
That's the difference.
I think that's how they define swift action.
Well, yeah.
You believe we're still talking about
how to define a swift action?
You can take a swift action
any time you would normally be allowed
to take a free action.
Bam. Bam!
Bam! Right.
So I'm wondering, because I could
swift action change my
bane to Kyle.
But I'm not going to, because it's
too risky. I may not hit you, the seven of you.
So I'm just going to
straight up swing my flaming
spike chain at you. Don't get
a natural 20 or a 90-19 because it
crits 19 to 20. Neon green roll a
1. What has it got for me now?
That is going to be
a 43 to hit.
Miss. Miss. Oh god
Metro's so amazing.
Alright, who's up? Alright,
I will roll a d8.
I'll re-roll an 8 and it hits you on a seven.
All right.
I'll roll right in front of you.
That's a one.
Yes!
Natural one.
Natural one misses all the images.
All the images grow back.
You get one image back.
Amazing.
So you are able to move through the spider's spaces,
and she does not hit you. I'm going
to double move. Full
withdraw? Yeah. Can you do
that because you used acrobatics check
so that halves your speed.
So I won't full withdraw. I'll take
a move action at half speed and then
take the rest of my move action. Okay.
If it has combat reflexes,
then it would be able to attack you
because you're moving out of another threatened space again.
Don't forget these things have a reach of only five.
It does not have combat reflexes, so you're fine.
So I can get basically to stand next to Baron and Nestor,
but in front of them, unfortunately.
So you're not staggered or anything.
You don't only get one move action.
You can only move.
I can only take move.
But you can still take move actions.
Move or free actions.
Okay.
Oh, that's huge.
You're all.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
She still hasn't gone.
She still hasn't gone.
Yeah, but she can't full attack anybody right now
so it's golden she's got this one last spider uh guarding her but remember there's nothing
more important right now than recovering dogry's body
that actually is important he has some good Do you have any good stuff on you?
I've got a lot of good stuff. I think I remember
having some good... I deleted my character
sheet immediately. No, it's okay.
Baron's been collecting your toenail
clipping so we can resurrect you from that later.
Don't worry. I remember having some cool
stuff so long ago.
This is so wild.
The world of the living means nothing to me anymore.
This is just... The world of the living means nothing to me anymore This is just It's absolutely insane
I still don't know what you guys are gonna do
And I feel like
How she feels
I really don't know what you're gonna do here
She feels pretty confident
So she's going to continue to delay
What's going on here?
He's pulling something
Why doesn't she just go up there and wail away? Well for one thing So she's going to continue to delay. What's going on here? He's pulling something.
Why doesn't she just go up there and wail away?
Well, for one thing, I'm not going to give you my whole strategy,
but she would have to double move to get right up to you.
Okay. She could cast spells if I wanted to,
but she basically was just walking right up to be a punching bag for Baron and Nestor.
Now, one thing she, and the way metra is positioned like if she double
moved right up to metra it still would allow nestor and baron to just punch away for this round so
she's gonna wait she's gonna wait and also because she has a beautiful barrier of the spider in front
of her so it is baron's turn oh Oh, boy. All right.
Baron, because this spider is untouched, is going to say,
Metra, get your head down.
And he's going to unleash a full attack action.
With no cover bonus to the creature's AC, because Metra bent down.
Which is just so great.
He'll get a little bonus to its AC.
But this makes sense, because he's shooting against touch AC.
Because he could move diagonally five foot step and get clear of Metra,
but then I would be shooting over him.
Right.
And also the Inquisitor could wail on Baron if he does that. Yeah, and mathematically right now it's a 16.6% chance for the Inquisitor
to hit one of you rather than your images.
So you have a better chance of not being hit than either Nestor or I right now.
Grant, never change.
Would you please just kill this spider in a single shot?
I will use the squishy magic caster as a meat shield.
Metra is now full-time caster and tank.
It's a really demanding job.
I've had to cover her dog.
And then Barret just like,
Where's my healing, Metra?
Where's my healing, caster?
31 points of damage.
Oh!
I didn't even hear the hit.
Yeah, what was the hit?
It was 25.
I'm hoping that hits against Touch AC.
Just barely.
Okay.
How many points of damage?
31, did I say?
I don't know
I picked up my dice already so I can't relook
Great I'll start with 41
Call it 51
Still standing
Second attack is a 26 to hit
Barely
Barely
That is oh nice
35 points of damage okay 35 35 and uh still standing describe your
kill still damn it how many attacks do you have left three and i just rolled the next one that
was a 14 on the die for a 32 to hit. Okay. 31 points of damage.
Okay, let me take off the 35.
Still standing.
Take off the 31.
Still standing.
Oh, man.
Oh, no.
I need all these attacks, baby.
But if Nestor could put her down with a crit.
23 against Touch AC.
That is a hit.
Okay. Crit! 23 against Touch AC. That is a hit. Okay!
That is going to be 32 points of damage.
Still standing.
Oh my god!
I feel like we're playing with fire, too, with Baron's recent misfires.
Yes.
That's been the most disappointing.
Oh, a 13 on the die.
21 against Touch AC.
21, even with that little metric cover, that is a yes.
Yes.
Finish him.
Okay.
28 points of damage.
And now it's dead.
Yeah, it is.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Baron is just like sweating as he rubs the hand holding his gun across his brow.
And the hot metal kind of burns his forehead as he does.
Permanent scar. Permanent scar.
Permanent scar.
It's okay.
We only have the toughest giant we've ever faced
in this tight corridor,
and one of us is dead.
Yep.
Left.
That's all we got left.
All four spiders are gone,
and only she remains.
She has taken one of your party Forever
And she stands there
There's nothing blocking you anymore
And she's trying to decide
Does she go or does she let Nestor just pep pep pep her away
She's gonna go
Uh oh
She has powers
See they're just like
Swinging this flaming spike chain
as she slowly
ambles towards you.
10, 15, 20.
She moves up
about 30 feet. Now she stands
right between those two
passageways leading to the south,
leading deeper into this maze
of propulsion ducts.
Cold air whipping past,
not so cold that it blows you away!
And Troy, do you mean to be actually in between?
Because right now the spider is in between them
and the giant is, at least on my roll, 20.
Yeah, I was looking at the spider.
All right, she's right below one of the tunnels.
I don't know why.
Completely changes my understanding of the narrative. Sorry. You know what, take it back. Take it back, the spider. All right, she's right below one of the tunnels. I don't know why. Completely changes my understanding of the narrative.
Sorry.
You know what?
Take it back.
Take it back, will you?
All right.
She moves forward.
My God, I can feel something coming.
Yeah, something.
Something very bad.
On the horizon.
Very, very bad.
She is going to, as a swift action, change her judgment.
I'm going to lift the veil and just let you know she's boosting her AC.
Swift action.
Swift action.
Boom.
Little judgment bone.
Profane bone to her AC.
That is one profane bone.
You hear a mumbling under breath.
Zonkuton.
Zonkuton.
And then she just looks at Naster and says,
Castigate.
Roll me.
A.
Will.
Save.
Oh, come on.
Oh, fuck.
I have a feeling this is going to be extremely bad.
Yep.
16.
Fucking.
You cower in fear.
Great.
Everyone loves to imagine their character doing exactly that.
That's awesome.
Do you want me to pee myself, too?
I can do that.
Vomit and terror.
She just, imagine just an image of the god,
an image of Zon-Kuthon just appears
like he's on top of you and you just
under the weight of fear.
Totally, within character.
You beg for forgiveness.
You compel the target to beg for forgiveness.
Yeah, I could easily imagine Nestor doing that.
Well, to be fair. So could easily imagine Nestor doing that.
You're saying Nestor's just weeping. He's just openly
crying, right? He's begging for forgiveness.
How long does he have to beg?
He has quite a few things to beg forgiveness for.
Six rounds. Six rounds?
Six rounds? But you can attempt a new
save every round on your turn.
Oh.
This is the kind of thing that I
hate because it's like
the game is
forcing character choices on you
that I do not appreciate.
So I'm going to say, I'm going to
go all out. He's also shitting himself.
He's upset.
Diarrhea streaming down his leggings
It's terrible
As he sobs and screams
He's begging out for forgiveness
For all of his sins
That's all he's wanted his whole life
Is to be forgiven for all these sins
That he knows he's done
That he knows are wrong
All the gods he believes in
All he wants is
them to forgive him. I just wish
Dogwrith was alive to see this moment.
I know I've been wrong.
I know that I've committed horrible crimes
and I shouldn't have done them.
I care about other
people you see and what they think
and feel.
Diarrhea running down his head. Diarrhea
streaming down his pants. Just snot
going into his mouth as he sobs and sobs.
Blair Witch, full snot and
tears covering his face. This is a
mister we did not expect to see. I know.
At this point in the campaign. Hey, you know.
Does it specify who he has to beg forgiveness
from? No, no. I just added the
Zonkuthon in as a
little flavor. You could beg
forgiveness from anyone, Skid. As long as you do a walk hour. Here's the thing. I a uh a little flavor you could beg forgiveness from anyone skid as long as you do a
walk hour uh here's the thing i'll make a plea to you skid and you can just tell me to fuck right
off but imagine a magical force that is really powerful hit some struck something inside of you
for a man that is completely unforgiving of everything he's done in his life. There's some deep, powerful magic that is forcing you to actually look back at your life and your choices and beg for forgiveness.
That is potentially interesting.
But my conception of Nestor is he doesn't have that nerve in him.
I know.
It's only the power of this magic.
It doesn't exist.
It's not in him.
He's incapable of feeling that way.
He's a true sociopath.
Well, it is your turn, and you do get another roll.
Still shitting.
And then you tell me how you want to play it.
All right.
Okay, 28.
Oh, dear.
He has to look.
28, so that's to look. 28.
So that's a pass.
Right.
Each round on his turn, a cowering subject may attempt a new save to end the effect.
So, yeah.
The only thing is, would that be a standard action to take that save?
Otherwise, there's no point, right?
It will save.
No, it's not a standard action to take that save? Otherwise, there's no point, right? It will save. No, it's not a standard action.
My guess would be you're trying to decide between it being at the beginning of the round or the end of the turn.
The beginning of the turn or the end of the turn.
I don't know the answer.
But it's not a standard action.
It's each round on its turn, but it's just kind of a...
Well, I guess that's the risk.
If you fail that second save, then you're fine.
It makes sense for grapplesles something physical to be an attack
yeah I think it would certainly specify
in the
spell
yeah I don't know
I don't know like if would I
because as it stands
making the second
save by two opportunities
I mean
I think what's confusing is that his turn came
right after so if we imagine on this if we imagine that if there had been three other people to go
between you and it like i wouldn't have had i wouldn't have been able to do an attack of
opportunities if it came up or whatever right it still benefits the creature right yeah it's just
i just happened okay he just yeah he just came up real fast i just don't know if it should be
no i mean you always play it like you do it at the top of your turn He just came up real fast. I just don't know if it should be...
No, I mean, you always play it like you do it at the top of your turn.
So I was thinking maybe you do it at the end of your turn so you lose another one.
I think that would make the spell extra powerful.
Yeah.
No, not extra powerful.
As powerful as it's meant to be.
It's at the end of your turn.
So if you get a cast on you and you fail, you lose a turn.
You don't get to do that turn. If you roll roll and save after your turn then your next round you're fine
But if you fail on that first round your second round you're you're off
What is the power of the spell if you get a two saves to beat it before it even is your first turn to act
You're shaken.
I mean, it's only a second level spell.
Yeah, but don't forget Inquisitor spells are, they're more powerful.
They're lower level spells are more powerful.
So this is tricky.
It doesn't specify.
I'm reading James Jacobs weighed in on something with regards to turn undead. Because similarly, it doesn't say when you roll this save at the beginning of your turn
or at the end of your turn.
it doesn't say when you roll this save at the beginning of your turn or at the end of your turn i mean for me i think i'm i'm my personal stake in in it is like if i'm playing the thinking as
the inquisitor it sucks that like you cast it it worked and now nestor saves and gets his full
attack but i think that's just the luck of the draw i could have it just happens to be nestor's
turn next if other things that happen like attacks of opportunity or whatnot,
he wouldn't be able to take those.
He wouldn't be able to take those.
He's ranged anyways.
Or any immediate actions.
It's just the timing.
If you cast on me, I wouldn't be able to.
Aether Step.
Yeah, yeah.
The timing of it is.
And it was a DC 20 save that you made.
So I think you get your full suite of attacks.
I don't know any other way to approach this.
Yeah.
No, I don't think so either.
There are some spells, like I feel like Glitter Dust or something
says, like, you make a spell save at the end
of your turn. If it had said that, easy.
It wrapped up in a neat bow for me.
It just says, each round on
its turn, a cowering subject
may attempt a new save to
end the effect.
You know, unless the cowering condition
gives you a minus nine to your will save.
What did James Jacobs say? He just said
whatever you think? Yeah, it's like up to the
GM. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so I'm
yeah, no, the cowering
condition, you're frozen in fear, can take no
actions, minus two penalty,
two AC, and they lose their dex bonus.
You made the save. You're no longer
cowering. I don't think you're even
shaken. You would have been shaken had you failed.
Each round, a creature, you compel the target on a failed save.
Yeah.
So you are good to go.
The only thing that is hampering you at this point is the 20% mischance.
But this is a huge opportunity.
So I think this is, now this plays a little bit more into what I was thinking.
So, and I'll concede this.
So it really is just a split second as it works out that he felt this like wave of remorse and fear.
So I'm picturing it kind of like the episode of Star Trek Next Generation where Q gives Data the ability to laugh for like for like 20 seconds
oh god it's horrifying so it's like and it's just like this moment he's like racked with laughter
that he's never experienced in his life for like 25 seconds and then it's gone but he knows what
it's like so it's like yeah so for that split seconds he feels remorse that he's never felt
ever in his life.
And he's just like, and it's overpowering for a moment.
And then it's gone.
And he's just like, that was interesting.
So now he's going to lead to full attack.
Come on, please, Grit.
Please.
Okay.
Oh, Jota.
Many shots.
And he's extremely angry now having that happen to him.
And that is a 33 to hit.
Give me a 20% miss chance.
All right.
40, 44.
That is a hit.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
That's even with her buffed a sizzle.
We can do this.
Yeah.
54 points of damage with the mini shot.
And by we, I mean you guys.
And if she has any DR, the DR will not apply to the rest of my attacks.
Right.
Just a reminder.
Second attack is also a hit.
And another 54 points of damage.
Okay.
Did you make the 20%?
Sorry, sorry.
No, hold on.
37 on the concealment, and it's not.
It is 30 points of damage on the second attack.
30 points of damage?
Okay.
Yep.
All right.
Why don't you go ahead and give us a blood reader every hit?
I was going to say,
why don't you do a blood reader?
I'm going to do a blood reader.
Just play it.
This is what happens.
I'm going to do a blood reader,
despite you.
It doesn't work.
Okay.
It's fine.
All right.
It doesn't work.
Just for the sake of drama,
I'll forego blood reader.
It actually does have enough.
There is a strategic reason I need to know.
Yeah, I know.
All right.
Well, maybe I'll tell you later.
Okay.
Maybe I'll ask after I'm done.
All right.
Third attack.
Oh.
That is a 29.
I think that's a miss.
That one's a miss.
All right.
I've never hit these last two.
Yep.
God, another fucking miss okay damn
uh i will tell you she has currently nothing's could change between now and uh later 150 hit
points okay oh yeah because i'm actually you told me because i remember she had like 220 like last
yeah yeah two i think two things might change right in fact, because I didn't want to interrupt Nestor's turn
to say that he was going to enact his solo tactics
target of opportunity feat to take a free shot.
Oh, there we go.
Okay.
Here it comes.
That will be two hits.
This is closer than it should be.
29 against Touch AC.
Okay, it's not closer than 29.
What do you know?
Her Touch AC is like 12.
You guys were talking about increasing the drama.
Matthew has never rolled a 29 to hit across the network.
All right.
That's probably true.
Missed chance.
Oh, a missed chance.
Yes.
Okay.
So I'll keep that damage there.
I bet you will.
Do you want me to reroll it? I'll reroll bet you will. Do you want me to re-roll it?
I'll re-roll it.
60.
Do you want me to re-roll the damage and see if it's higher?
We'll see.
Here it comes.
Re-roll it.
It's higher.
So there you go.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Suck it, LaValle!
There you go.
That's two fives on a D6 and a six on the D8.
I don't know how you sleep at night.
You asked for it, dude.
I just like watching you as a spectator
Like I'll keep that damage
Would you have kept it if it was all once?
Yeah but nobody in their right mind would do that
No
37 points of damage on the first attack
Well the only attack that I have
Attack of opportunity
It's solo tactics
It's just free I get one
If I'm able to shoot against an enemy that is hit within 30 feet of me,
I can spend an immediate action to make a single ranged attack.
So it's an immediate action.
Just remember that you can't use an immediate or a swift when it comes up to your turn.
That's something I don't know if we've ever quite policed.
Actually, you can't use it until his next next turn.
Well, let's not split hairs, Matthew.
It is Mettra's turn. Well, let's not split hairs, Matthew. It is Metro's turn.
Until his, and I believe this is in the book, his next next turn.
It's true.
You know what?
Round seven.
All right.
Still up.
Metro will take a free action to discuss with the group if we want to run.
I mean, it's only, it's got at this point, what, 130 hit points?
113. No, no, 130 hit points? 113.
No, no, we're not running.
Nestor at this point is like, after being subjected to this brand new horrible feeling by this person, is not going to rest until she's dead.
All right.
And Baron says maybe strategic re-movement, if that's possible?
I've got a different strategy in my mind.
Okay.
She's now blind.
Oh!
Power word!
Blind.
Blind!
Semi-charmed kind of life.
No save.
Semi-charmed kind of life.
All eyes blind.
Now, you do have over 100 hit points.
So it will only be for 1d4 plus 1 rounds.
Would you like to roll a 1-meter roll?
No, please.
You earned it.
That would be four rounds.
Yes!
The entirety of her life.
Wait, like twice the length of her life.
Four rounds she is blind.
Why did you wait until now to do this?
Because if it had over 200 hit points, the spell has no effect. That is polite. Why did you wait until now to do this? Because if it had over 200 hit points, the spell has no effect.
That is why.
That's why you waited.
Wow.
We hadn't touched her.
We touched her a little bit.
Yeah.
No, I mean, at the start, a second ago, she had 234 hit points or something like that.
Yeah.
Not six seconds ago.
Holy shit.
Wow.
Do you want to move at all?
Yes, I do.
And then Metro will run around Holy shit. Wow. Do you want to move at all? Yes, I do. And then Metro will run around the corner.
Wow.
I'm so glad I was here for this two and a half hour episode.
You promised me you would finish.
You promised me.
You could tell your grandchildren you were here.
You were here.
You know how many people would kill to be here right now?
They would murder.
It is Baron's turn.
Baron, there's a 20% miss chance.
You're doomed for a misfire, and you have no swifties.
You're immediate.
He's made up for all his misfires.
It's such a negative entry into the round.
That's why I do it.
It's called the psych out.
It's called negging.
Baron's going to...
It's called the psych out.
Baron's going to five foot step back,
and then he is going to take a full round action.
For Bugs from Nestor.
Actually, he's going to do a quick perception check.
If that was a natural 20, I was going to punch you in the mouth.
This is a 35 perception check.
Is there a gauntlet
holding her weapon in place or is she holding it freely in her hands that is she have a locked
gauntlet that's a good question uh no gauntlet but i feel like there's something i read here
yeah no gauntlet but uh that's what I was looking for. What do you want to do?
I think Baron was
thinking about shooting the weapon
out of its hands.
But I don't
trust this thing at all.
I trust it maybe slightly
more than I trust Troy. So that
means I'm going to fire at it. Full attack.
Yes!
Missfire. 15 on the die! more than I trust Troy. So that means I'm going to fire at it. Full attack. Yes. Yes! Missed fire.
Fifteen on the dot.
Oh! Explosions!
Twenty percent mischance.
Oh, god, that god damn mischance.
I'm so sick of it.
I'm happy to re-roll the damage.
I'm just going to roll the damage.
Eighty-seven.
Oh!
Oh, man. Wow. Almost second character damage. 87 oh oh man
almost second character
I would have had to blow Nestor's head out
do you want me to keep the damage or re-roll
the damage keep the damage alright it was a
5 a 3 and a 2 so you win this round
um so we're talking about
uh
do you think that's a bad 31
points of damage 31 on the first attack.
Missed fire, missed fire, missed fire.
All right, I'm going to roll the blur at the same time.
So let's see.
I missed with a 16 and it was a critical threat.
Oh, no!
No!
Blah!
Here comes the third attack.
Game concealment.
Match point.
44 for a hit at a, I believe, a 30.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, that's really close to max.
Oh, man.
38 points of damage.
How many attacks do you have left? Two more. Okay. Oh, man. 38 points of damage. How many attacks do you have left?
Two more.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Here's the thing.
If you don't kill her, she can get up and attack Nestor or you.
Yeah.
98 on the concealment and a 22 to hit.
Touch AC.
That's a hit.
That will be 32 points of damage.
Still up.
Final attack.
Here it is.
Spending a grip point to get up close and deadly.
I should have been doing that the whole time, but I'm nervous.
This is how nervous I am.
Roll the blur separately this time.
Let's really build suspense.
Okay, here comes the two hit.
That is going to be
a 14
against Touch AC.
Hits Zach.
Oh!
What did you roll
on the die?
A six, so almost a
misfire. Blur? 79.
Oh my god!
Roll damage! Come on, dude! Here it comes.
I can't believe you did it again.
Boxcars on the first 26!
12 plus 19.
Just err on the side of higher when you're doing the fast
math. Round up.
Round up. 46
points of damage. Oh my God! As that last
bullet flies towards her, her
eyes close,
and she starts mouthing a prayer under her breath
as she catches the bullet in her head
and dies!
Yeah!
Yeah!
Thank god!
We'll see you next week!
I want to go home!
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
I've never...
I've never shook so much.
God bless that dwarf! God bless that dwarf.
God bless that dwarf.
Dalgrith, you mean?
Yes, him too.
Oh, Dalgrith.
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