The Glass Cannon Podcast - Giantslayer Episode 285 - Any Awesome Blow, I'll Follow You Down

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

As Sir Will flies towards the open shaft leading straight out of the castle and Nestor stumbles about permanently blinded, Barron and Metra may have to decide between saving their friends or saving themselves! For more podcasts and livestreams, visit glasscannonnetwork.com. To become an official member of the Naish, subscribe today at http://www.jointhenaish.com. Want to be a part of Glass Cannon Nation? Follow us at twitter.com/glasscannonpod instagram.com/theglasscannon facebook.com/glasscannonnetwork tiktok.com/@glasscannonnetwork Get the best apparel and gaming accessories in the biz at https://glasscannonnetwork.com/store If you enjoyed this, we have several other series featuring Call of Cthulhu - Time For Chaos Delta Green - Get in the Trunk Pathfinder 2E - Glass Cannon Live! Strange Aeons Pathfinder 1E - Legacy of the Ancients Traveller - Voyagers of the Jump and so much more! Join us every Thursday night for Campaign Two of The Glass Cannon Podcast – a playthrough of the Pathfinder 2E Gatewalkers Adventure Path! Videos premiere on YouTube Thursday nights at 8PM ET with a companion podcast available at midnight. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's right! Did you know it's also covered by most private insurance plans? Well, I'll definitely be asking my doctor if Rebelsis is right for me. Rebelsis. Ask your doctor or visit Rebelsis.ca. Order up for Rebelsis. Last week on the Glass Cannon Podcast. Not only is someone coming, something is coming, and it's an earthquake. As the earth shook beneath the hero's feet.

No. No! How terrifying would this be to have the earth rumbling beneath your feet and this thing making its way towards you. Oh, come on. A well-struck attack humbled the slayer. On top of triple damage on a vital strike,

Nestor is permanently blinded. Oh, Jesus Christ. And as the monsters close in... A huge bipedal warthog. Kind of looks like a defensive lineman. Big tusk sticking out. It's got a lion's mane over its head, but very

pig-like features. And then, just for shits and giggles, right on the other side of you, rising up from the ground, is an enormous Earth Elemental. An awesome blow threatens to take one of them off the map. The Elder Earth Elemental

steps up to Sir Will and like Barry Bonds in his prime, just boom! Punches you and Sir prime just boom! Punches you and Sir Will just The adventure continues right over the open shaft! Now! Some of the greatest TV shows of all time

didn't have great final seasons. Even had subpar final episodes. Not the Glass Cannon Podcast. Nope! Book six has been hot! Breaking

new ground, revolutionizing the game of storytelling and improvised dice game as entertainment. Today's episode is going to take things to a whole new level. Joe, you have not been happy for four and a half weeks. How are you feeling today buddy great man yeah see what happens if the because let's say like if you're on the show if you're on like mash and like clinger gets thrown into a pit and like jamie farr is just like yo fuck this this. This sucks. I quit. What then?

I would say Jamie Farr. Yeah. Come up with a new character to play. Oh, yeah. See, that's the idea. It's like if you're a character on a real TV show and you get thrown into a pit, then you're free of that bullshit. And you can just leave. They don't ask you to make another character. You just go.

They don't say, hey, bring another one in. Hey, put a lot of energy into another one. So that I can just do whatever I feel like in my twisted, fucked up mind. They get the break to just walk away those evil eps go back to toledo ohio right exactly open a hardware store where dreams come true i think he was from toledo actually jamie farr yeah or his character was right wasn't the corporal clinger from toledo google it I never got into MASH. You know what?

I think the actor and the character were both from Toledo, if I'm remembering right. That's one of those shows I always want to go back and watch, but there's like 14 seasons. I'm sure it's great, but you know there's going to be some duds, and you've got to sit through the duds to get to the great ones. It's a sitcom. You don't have to watch the whole thing. It's not serialized. Just watch the best episodes. Hello, I'm Troy the Valley. Have we met? I don't know how to do that. I have to the great ones. It's a sitcom. You don't have to watch the whole thing. It's not serialized. Just watch the best episodes. Hello, I'm Troy LaValle. Have we met?

I don't know how to do that. I have to do it all or none. Wait, do this. This is a very Troy LaValle behavior. Here we go. Spend the next month researching the best of list online. Internalize which are the best ones. Before you even watch it, tell everyone who disagrees they're an idiot.

And then just watch the best of them. Yeah. Well, you know, when I was bartending at Caroline's on Broadway back in the day, Comedy Club in Times Square. Name drop. Name drop. Maybe you've heard of it. Just reopened, by the way.

Just finished closing. Only from this podcast and only 45 times. Just finished closing a show in the showroom that I was headlining, and then I had to sling some drinks. You guys mind if I get back there and sling some i need to stay connected to my roots man this young i gotta stay humble young all the comedy success i'm having it's gonna go to my head if i don't get back there and sling some drinks i got you a saturday night at caroline's there's a young up-and-comer named jerryinfield that was asking for advice. I said, I'm sorry. I got to go sleep.

But the publicity guy there, he was always like, finish your shift and clockwork. He'd just give me the point. That meant start filling that glass with Merlot and don't stop until I exit five hours from now. And he used to be a big MASH guy. And he was telling me about that famous episode of MASH, where they changed the tone of the show. Because when the show started, it had a laugh track, and it was very silly. It was like, let's be silly about this horrible, tragic time in history. But then they changed the tone in the famous episode, the plane went in, there were no survivors. And so the way he was explaining to me, imagine when you're explaining something to

someone that you're super passionate about about that you are able to tell that yarn perfectly and make it sound like the greatest thing ever that's what he did with that episode of mash i'm like that sounds so great um and i just i you know i never watched it yeah they did that because they didn't want they didn't tell any of the actors ahead of time right they didn't yeah it's pretty crazy radar comes in right yeah he was the only one who had the script because he was the only ones yeah so they like killed killed off to the come on i don't want to spoil it but mash at this point it's been spoiled was i right about jamie farr yes and jamie farr and corporal clinger right right on both okay so i also didn't watch mash so isn't that pretty impressive yes

but i knew that bottle cap thank youid, you are a very impressive figure. MASH cap. MASH cap. MASH cap. You get it when we're on MASH? When we get to play our MASH role-playing game. Oh, that's such a good idea. You really should make a... The sounds of the helicopters. Remember the

theme song, Suicide is Painless, right? Yeah. Have you seen the movie, Matt? No. They sing the lyrics in the movie. Do they? They were written by Robert Altman's son. And he predicted, my son is going to make more money off this movie than I will. And he did, because it became the theme song for the TV show.

Oh, wow, yeah. When did they change the tone? In this episode where... I know, how far into the length of the... It's like end of season... I literally just told you. Just describe it. Are you serious?

I want to say like end of season two or three. How did they do it? So basically Radar walked in. Radar walked in. I just told you that a moment ago. Change tone mash. Change tone mash. Change tone mash. How to change your ringtone to the mash theme.

I just made that up. It's the end of the third season. Change tone mash. Hold on, I got a call. change toad match hold on i gotta call i'm sorry ellen alda's calling me hold on end of the third season apparently oh wow it's a long time and that's why i get i never knew that and i guess that's why i always wonder when when people when people start talking about mash my question is always is that show a funny show or a serious show?

Like I always ask because I don't really know. And yeah, both is an acceptable answer, but I didn't realize there was like a pivoting episode. Yeah, and it still remained a black comedy after that. Did they have a laugh track? No, they got rid of it. It was a chuckle track. They got rid of like the more guffaw,

old school laugh track. But yeah they got rid of it. It was a chuckle track. They got rid of the more guffaw, old-school laugh track. But yeah, two actors were leaving the show, and they just made it seem like they were getting off. I'm going to just spoil it. Don't listen if you're going to watch MASH. No one's going to fucking watch all of MASH. But two of the actors had been written out of the show or whatever, and so you just thought they were leaving. They were leaving Korea and going back home,

and then Radar walks in while they're in the OR, I think. And it's like the helicopter flew in. There were no survivors. The characters die. It's only one character that dies. Oh, it's only one? Yeah. Okay.

Is it the other captain, the corporal? It's the colonel. The colonel, yeah. Because then they replaced him with another guy. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Yeah. I'm butchering the actual story. This mash file is listening to this. That's before Henry Morgan came in to replace him? Yes, exactly. All right. Now, it's crazy. I don't know. I'm butchering the actual story. There's mash files listening to this.

That's before Henry Morgan came in to replace him? Yes, exactly. All right. Now, I always heard it. I don't know if this was there in the letter or not, but apparently when the finale first aired, there was a massive, catastrophic failure of the water systems in the Midwest because I guess everyone- Oh, everyone was flushing the toilets during the commercials?

There was something where at the end of the episode or something like everyone had like gone to the bathroom like coordinated oh wow effectively just watch the like you can just youtube the final scene of mash you're never gonna watch it it's a you know at the time it was the most watched finale of all time yeah mash grant you've been very silent hey mash no I love mash I love the the cover I think the cover of the movie at the almond film at blockbusters was the peace sign with the legs coming out of it i never forget it yeah yeah i have a good cover box but yeah i think we've talked about mash at the top of a show before so i was just on the net what do you think about the monster mash i love the monster mash come on

is that what this episode is going to be like because i am signed up whatever happened to the transylvanvania twist never did that one how does that go that one never took off matthew sing sing it sing wait sing it sing that's a line one two three sing it dracula comes in and he goes whatever happened to my transylvania this sounds like the jersey version of it we did tonsil hockey the transylvania twist dracula shows up to the party. Do you listen to the lyrics in the verses between the chorus? I get lost in music.

Okay, well, Dracula shows up and he doesn't know the dance. Troy's actually never listened to all of Monster Mash because he knows it would be such a big commitment. He doesn't have the time. It's like when someone tells me their name, I'm too busy thinking about telling them my name to listen to what they say. That makes sense. That happens a lot checks out a check so who made who made more money the the guy who wrote monster mash or robert altman's son great question matthew would like an answer by the end of the episode i'm just gonna google it some banter is good. Let's start the episode. Sir Will, I debated.

I sat there looking at Awesome Blow, staring at him like, should I do this? This is just, he just came back. I was Googling all night. I was looking at it. Now, in my defense, the Tiger Giant, like it's built into her character. It's built into what her tactics are. That's what she wants to do. Get up there, beat you up a little bit, and knock you into the shaft.

She didn't get to do that. But this guy did. Oh, my God. We should have just taken her out of the equation altogether before this battle happened. But the chain happened right away. We couldn't have. Yeah, it's a well-constructed encounter because there's a lot of different things going on that kind of divide your focus and so you get like thrown off and i don't know because it happens in stages yeah it's like the you trigger the trap those two things show up and then she shows up and then they come

in with an earthquake and then they show up yeah it's a lot to throw at you and you kind of forget that certain things are happening. I even mentioned the pit to you. If you don't remember, I mentioned it. I brought it up again about a round before I knocked you in. I was like, oh, and you got that gaping hole there because I just wanted to remind you of that threat. I didn't have to do that.

But I did. And then Awesome blew you. But if we were really, really, really really smart before you also made that sound like you said it and then i had a round to move around or something like that like i just feel like i didn't ample time i moved there and you were like you moved really close to that shaft i'm just talking about that i was just if we had been very very very smart and thought way ahead red sun zoo right before we came in here, we would have used like a stone wall. What is that spell you can cover things with?

Wall of stone. Wall of stone to cover up that hole. Put a lid on it. That would have been a great use of that spelling, right? Yeah. I've looked all week at what the rules are. Do you get a reflex save or something to grab the edge? The acrobatics climb check.

You know, there's an argument to be made for a possible climb check that Sir Will couldn't make. It's possible you could make a ruling on an acrobatics check. You could interpret it that way or just be benevolent to do it. But as written, I don't think you get a save save and so i'm not going to give you one because this is book six i don't know if you know this this is book six it's not book three okay we're gonna do book six intensity it wouldn't matter it wouldn't matter what book it is why because at all times combat maneuvers are stupid and broken and and they don't make any sense. The fact that you could take a fully healthy and completely fine PC and with a roll of 46, is that what it was?

It was high. On the combat maneuver that almost no one could build to, and that there's no save, there's no other ability to do anything, it's just a hit with a combat maneuver check that is so high for just about anybody, and then its permadeath is poor design. That's all I'm saying. Poor game design.

I want to argue for the reflex save, if I may. Okay. I feel like in every other spell or effect that creates a situation where a character would fall into a hole, they get a reflex save to grab the edge. If there is an edge nearby, adjacent to them when they're falling in, almost any circumstance, they will get a chance. Joe talked about this last week as we were going off the air. You said they fixed it in second edition. You get a chance. Joe talked about this last week as we were going off the air. You said they fixed it in second edition. You get that action. Because what you're talking about is a situation with pits, whereas with Awesome Blow, it's just saying 10 feet.

It's not saying what you're hitting people into. You know, what was a river of magma? You know what I mean? Just happened to be 10 feet away. Awesome Blow is. I hate it when that happens. Yeah. If it's in the right place at the right time it's

overpowered that's all it's just overpowered yeah it really is because you could be decked to the nines on your fucking awesome blow cmd and still like he is not have a chance and permanently killed yeah no he's decked to the nines and the ability to awesome blow. Oh, by the way, this isn't like a boss or like an interesting character, quote unquote. This is a fucking summoned creature as well. So it's like, it really is bad. It's a henchman. Yeah, it's a henchman at best.

Yeah, it's tough. But I think what their thought is, is that you'll have a way at this level of the game to save yourself. Okay. That's their thought. Yeah. Well, let's say you're like a wizard or something and you have feather fall, right? So it's like, okay, sure, you saved yourself, but you're out of the book. Well, best of luck.

Like, you can't fly in. You can't teleport in. You know what I mean? Like, it's all these weird rules that, like, they're just trying to trying to stop you from like going out and resting whenever you feel like it i get that but then you build this shaft in here and it creates a situation where it's like you have to bend the rules or come up with some nonsense in order to make these encounters work this is like if darth vader cut off luke's hand in bespin and. And then a stormtrooper came in and threw Luke off into the pit and killed him. Yes!

Just a random stormtrooper. Exactly. I've always said Sir Will is the Luke Skywalker of this story. He is. He has the same hair. It's the same hair. Same color hair. But we often talk about how...

Same acting ability. How society players, organized play players often like have a bunch of tools and their tool belt that we don't often have with us. And I was thinking about it in terms of the tiger giant, having the exploding bead that negated the crit, like there are feather tokens and stuff that probably every high level of entering group is like, Oh yeah,

you got to have that. I mean, a ring of feather fall is a really clutch. Yeah. Yeah. But again, situation you're gone, you're gone out of it. You're out of it.

Unless you make up narrative that breaks the rules of the book as written and brings you back in. So it just seems, I don't know. It seems weird. Well, I'm interested. I'm interested to just be an audience member in this episode and see how you

pull this off. Because thought about it, decided I'm not making another character. So enjoy. You can just be lexington yeah if you would like to hand me a character later in the episode that's fine i'll play it uh yeah you put a lot of work into sir will but uh i uh no i just figured metros got this matthew told me metros got this So we're gonna be fine 100% I have a couple of plans That's why I'm I'm optimistic

I heard Matthew Chatting to himself Over there And I think He's just twitching In the corner I always review My plans to myself

I'm rooting for you Sir Will I really am Because we Went through this Whole rigmarole To get you back in here It was a beautiful story

That was told I hate to lose you Like in here. It was a beautiful story that was told. I hate to lose you like this. I was agonizing over it. I'm like, I could just do a double slam and do some damage. This fight's going to be over, and for what? I got to awesome blow you. I got to awesome blow you

right to the tip of the shaft. We're having a good time, folks, at home. Wouldn't say. You know what I'm going to give you, though? I won't give you a save, but I will give you a 15% chance that you hit the winch. Oh, yes. Oh, okay. And take 75 points of damage instead as your neck snaps.

Jesus. I like it. That's better, dude. 15% chance, very low chance. Just physics, really. Just a hideous crack. His head hits the wind to his neck, snaps. Little three-foot-six dude flying end over end, smashing.

Elder Earth Elemental just punched you. You might break your neck. 15% chance. And you know what? I'm going to have you roll it, Joe. And I'm going to also let you pick if you want it to be 86 to 100

you're fine. Or 1 to 15 you're fine or 1 to 15 you're fine uh did he mess up there i might are they both the same exact percentage chance yes but i want you to pick because this went so poorly last time man this is a double whammy for joe two opportunities to screw himself i i figure that's oh i mean i thought i was just going down the shaft so this is fine that's a free chance by me free chance to just get out of it with 75 points of damage and do does the 69 rule still apply here oh good point

good question oh well then so is it a 16% chance? Hmm. Well, no, because 86. 86 and it gets a 16 out. Yeah, but it would anyway. So you should take the lower number then. Yes, obviously, at that point, yeah. Give me a D100 roll and we'll figure it out. Okay.

I'm sad. Here we go for the winch and I'm trying to roll 1 to 15 alright come on sir Will let's get a 0-0 now

41 oh Dirk Nowitzki's number it's always a 41 so Will gets punched by this awesome rock fist and just is thrown back into the pit. In that moment. Well, you know what? I'll have you fall on your turn. I'll have you fall on your turn. Perfect. Yeah. Question.

Who goes next? I think it has to move in a... There we go. Yeah. It's Nestor. Would you fall right now? Doesn't really matter, I don't think. I mean, I think as this is happening, he's like arcing up through the air towards the shaft. Yeah, he moves in these

like few split seconds. He moves the ten feet from the Awesome Blow on this turn, and then he will move on... Yeah, it's not like I'm giving you the save. Right. Okay. I'm going to let you float there in space. What's the initiative order? It goes Nestor and then Sir Wynn falls.

I had such a great plan if I went before you. It's alright, I have a plan. You got a plan? I'm a 15th level paladin, dude. Maybe I should just have you fall now. I've been playing it up with Troy all week, but I got this.

A little thing called tactics alright after you Skip well Nestor is completely unaware that this is happening still being blind not that he would change what he was about to do even if he knew but he is going to do a full attack

against the earth Elemental, who, or, yeah. That's the one where you have a good idea of where it is. Yeah, I know where it is already, so yeah. We did it. Yeah, he told us to hit the other one, but you could try to figure out where it is. Yeah, I could, but I don't know. Oh, shoot. Well, I already said it.

Okay, so the first attack is a 34 to hit. 50% miss chance. And that's a miss on the concealment. Second attack, natural 20. Natural 20. concealment second attack natural 20 natural 20 uh and a natural one on the confirm fuck you and the future and it's a miss anyway oh gross all right third attack is a natural one Master coin! To confirm? Confirm is... That's not good either. That is a 24. That's a confirmed fumble.

No. You're actually okay. Okay, all right. And it's a one on the concealment anyway. Final attack is a 29 to hit. All right. How about that concealment? You're due. Nope. Oh, my hit. All right. How about that? Conceal me your do. Nope. Oh, my God.

All of them. All right. Here we go. He pats the gantry. Sir Will, you've got this. Have you been working out since last we met? Sir Will, you fall 590 feet.

I delay. There you go. Little thing called tactics. Amazing. You said, you ruled, I fall on my turn. It's true, it's true. That is true. Sir Will falls through the shaft, and this is what happens the first hundred feet you fall and you

just you're going through the stone stonework of this castle and after a hundred feet you see the floor where you guys saw the trap and then you fall immediately past that and you go through the rocky base of the cliff. After 200 feet, you exit, and you are just free-falling below the flying castle. Why does all six seconds have to happen right then? It doesn't make any sense. Can't you ever wrap your head around adjusting anything for physics and reality? You don't like it? You want me to fall

100 feet on your turn? 100 on Barry's? Why not? That's completely reasonable. Watch this. I fall 600 whatever feet because it's six seconds. All six seconds happened. And then we go back in time and it's Metra's turn

or her six seconds are after my six seconds. The whole round takes six seconds. I'll allow it if from now on during initiative when it's not my monster's turn, I'm allowed to be like, you know what? Let me put one of my attacks in there. That's not what he's saying. It's basically what he's saying. That the turn everyone's turn happens near simultaneously. The turn, everyone's turn happens near simultaneously.

I'm just saying it's possible as a GM to imagine a world in which all 500 feet don't happen in that instant. It actually makes sense that it doesn't happen that way. But, you know, whatever you want to do. I will agree that that is an option. Not one which I'll be using. But it sounds fun. We should try that. We should start a podcast. We should be recording this.

Are you getting beers? Joe has left the tape. Joe, he's got a pile over there. We had a great moment before. We were all set up. We recorded our room tone. And then Troy asked Skid to play a song that we sometimes play to pump ourselves up and skid plays it and joe immediately gets up and goes to the bathroom

yeah he just left he refused to get pumped up i want to break his mood he's just coming back with chips in a bottle. I just wanted to give a quick shout out to my main man, Mark Unterberger. Oh, he emailed us. Yeah. Oh, did he? Yeah. He sent us, you talked about Canadian chips, and he sent us an amazing assortment of Canadian chips that we've been whittling away at over time.

So thank you very much, Mark. They're awesome. What are you eating? I don't know. It's all drag. away at over time. So thank you very much, Mark. They're awesome. What are you eating? I don't know. It's all dressed. The tag is over it. All dressed. It's a classic.

He doesn't even know what he's eating. He doesn't even appreciate it. Wait, is Mark... Oh, I appreciate the taste. I just couldn't name it. Is Mark a B-E-R-G-er? I believe so. Unter Burger.

Oh, so he's under Grant. Yes. To be fair. Unter Burger. Most of us are under Grant. But that means under the mountain, so he's under Grant. Yes. Unter Burger. Most of us are under Grant. But that means under the mountain, basically. That's amazing.

Oh, under mountain. That's cool. Burger means mountain? The ruins of under mountain. Berg, B-E-R-G, is the suffix for mountainous places. B-E-R-G is the suffix for cities. Burger means different things in French and German. Isn't that an old D&D module? Ruins of Undermountain.

Super module. For some reason, Canadians have vastly surpassed the U.S. in chip technology. Oh, so good! Because they're not afraid to explore flavor. Remember those pickle ones? So good. Fucking pickle ones.

Did he send any prawn? Do they have prawn cocktail in Canada, or is that just the UK? That might just be the UK or Thailand. Prawn-flavored Pringles. Prongles. Prongles, you might call them. Prongles. There were some solid flavors there, though.

All right, so, Will, you're falling to your death. You're outside of the castle. Thanks for coming for four reps. We are very cavalier about this. See what I did there? Yeah, that was did matthew oh man this is gonna be rough i might have to quit after that well sir well i'll give you this your standard in your move action what it's your turn you get a stand oh yeah i guess so get a move uh do you have any powers now that you have rebuilt this character, like the six million dollar man, that would allow you to teleport?

No, because you can in the rules of the module teleport or fly. I have both those options. I'm just not going to. Well, you know that you can't teleport through the energy field, but you're falling out the rocky base. And I believe you have the knowledge that the energy field doesn't extend to the energy field. But you're falling out the rocky base. And I believe you have the knowledge that the energy field doesn't extend to the rocky base. Otherwise, I just gave you a little tidbit.

But I don't think you can teleport anyways. It doesn't matter. No, I can't. You called my bluff. But, okay, so around the rocky base, around the bottom, there's no field preventing anything. You don't think so.

You could theoretically fly up into the shaft from below. Anybody could. We could call on our cell the armies, the flying armies of Avestan. Well, this is the problem, right? And they could fly one at a time up into that shaft. This is the problem. If Naxi Mara knew where it was, had enough sort of eyes in the sky to be able to track it down, you need to be able to track it down.

You need to be able to know where it is, and it's constantly on the move. Yeah, I'm asking for a friend. It's a hypothetical question. People could fly into that shaft. Hypothetically, yes. Send out one group email. Everyone let me know if you see the Cloud Castle. It's hard to miss. If you can get to the mainframe computer of Iron Cloud Key

There's no reason you couldn't send out an email to the armies of Clarence We literally already did We passed every check by over 30 And you still gave us nothing That was the engine I still call it the mainframe It wasn't the server room Just tell me you can't do anything

I will I might as well I will lay on hands myself since man this 20d6 when i hit the ground it's gonna be rough you don't want to remove nester's blindness i do oh shit i would love to that's the other thing too no i'm blind forever now i know i mean that's that's the main thing it's like nester's blind forever you can't come that's why i'm asking these questions it's like what characters are going to come back into the castle uh this is one of my favorite episodes ever and does this count as casting a spell i really don't think so and shut up just let it go

i really don't think it's a swift action you know i don't know uh it's a standard action unless you oh wait what's the oh it's supernatural then you're fine then you're fine yeah casting a spell okay at that drop i mean you're 500 i think okay by the rules of physics you're 590 feet down by the rules of pathfinder i don't know 580 but he also he also fell from above the level of the hole. Right. So he's like 560. Yeah, 380 below the rocky base. Jesus. From 560 feet away from us. Yes.

Yes. Falls. Falls. I had a great plan. I had a great plan. Think of a better one. Wait. He said that last week, that that's how far it was going to be.

And you said you had a plan. Well, I thought I was going to go before you Well whatever I'm done I'm done and I'm also not playing anymore Depending on what Metra does I'm done and I'm also not playing anymore It is Metra's turn Alright Alright well I Let me tell you what I was

going to do. Okay. My plan... Kill the troll and the elemental? No. Okay. Sadly, there's only so many actions in a round. Sure. I was going to cast reverse gravity and basically hold Will right there, hovering above the pit. I was going to do like

one ten cubic foot area where gravity was reversed and he would just sit there spinning. And one of us could just reach out and grab him and pull him in. Pull him in, yeah. But he's gone. Yes. Get him off the map. Wasting his space.

But I could also do, if he had fallen, you know, let's see, what's the range on it? It's medium range, so if he had fallen 200 and what? 250 feet? Mm-hmm. I could have gotten him. You could have looked down and maybe seen him.

But he's 560 feet down. Yeah. 20d6. That's going to be brutal. While you're thinking, can Lexington take a bite attack? Oh, yeah. Sure. I believe Joe said he wasn't playing anymore yeah i know you're not playing well he said he's gonna depend on what you did yeah it's just it's just funny who do you want to bite

uh you pick why'd you be a natural one you stumble 10 feet backwards oh my god it would be the end of the podcast if that ever happened. Be in the business. What'd you roll? I missed. And then a bite again. An anger. And I missed. Okay.

I rolled a I rolled an 18 and then an 11. Metro, you got some extra time here. What are you thinking? My second plan was to catch Sir Will in a hungry pit, an interdimensional hungry pit down the shaft. You know, that little damage would be better than the unlimited.

Oh, no! As he's falling, he's like, oh, I'm okay. And then just, shop, shop, shop, shop. Just being eaten alive. You know what's funny? If this was a TV show, in the preview to the season, you would see Sir Will falling,

and you would think, oh, it's from that episode where he fell onto the platform. No, it's this episode. We need to do that. Is there, are there metamagic wands for extending range?

Just out of curiosity. There are. Not that you have one, I'm just curious. Well, actually, no, that's a great point. Let me look at my gear. I do have a oh i have granny granny grant grant okay i do have an enlarged metamagic rod however it can only be used with spells of third level or lower

it's a lesser rod and any spell i could use to save Sir Will is higher than Sir Will. You're a lesser caster! Maybe so, but I'm the only caster you have. That's all you all have got. You would need a greater enlarged metamagic rod. Or whatever the regular version is. Oh, okay. Okay.

Yikes. All right, I don't have a choice. Metro is going to go, so well! And she'll charge forward and swan dive into the pit after him. Swan dive? Just drop, not fly.

Like, straight up Mission Impossible, Halo jump rescue. She's just gonna... What are you gonna do? Well, that depends on I'm assuming Troy will let me fall at the same speed you did and you said I could catch up to him. Well, no. I already fell

500 feet. Now it's his turn. And then I fall another 500 while you fall. No, no, no. Because according to Troy's rules he's going to fall the entire length on his turn. This is true. Ah! Okay. So, uh, okay.

So you're gonna... This is so brave and crazy and stupid. So it just might work. Symmetra is falling headfirst, like when you watch somebody jump out of a plane, they're trying to get to the optimal parachute opening position. Oh, yeah. Fucking Bond getting after the airplane. There's six of you,

too, so you all just jump at the same time. You cascade down the pit. They're all holding hands in an octagon. Yeah, they're doing a pair of skydiving circles. They have their GoPros out. This is the best wedding shower ever. The troll just turns his head and says, and then looks at what remains,

a blind archer, a lone gunman, and a magical wolf. I'm not done. Oh, you still got a standard action, actually, because your movement was 10 feet to the hole, but then you drop as far as Sir Will. Now, are you within touch range of him? I'd argue that she could, like, push off, like you do off the wall of a pool. Like, while she got to the edge and just kind of, like, push herself a little bit further to get with him.

Also, appreciate the difference between falling panicked and trying to stop yourself versus, like, falling intentionally and diving. He might have been scraping against the walls of millimeters, or sorry, meters of difference, but it could matter. She looked and just plopped straight down. And the Elder Elemental is a large, a huge creature. When it punched Sir Will, Sir Will might have gone up and then fallen. I'm just diving straight down.

It was awesome blow uppercut. Yeah. All awesome blows are uppercuts. It's canon. Yes. Yeah, I mean, depending on the wind conditions. Obviously. And the castle moved slightly in the sense where Wolf. Oh, that's true.

I'm going to give you a... Jump it out like a battle royale. Yeah. I'm going to give you an 86% chance to be within touch range of him. Oh, God. So 86 or lower. Oh, God. So, 86 or lower. Oh, God! No! Here's what Troy doesn't understand, is that if I

am not in touch range of you, I'll never be in touch range of you, because all objects fall at the same speed. Yeah, he says that, and he doesn't know, and then he commits himself. No, but it just changes what spells you can cast, because you can still cast other spells. That is true. I could cast other spells. Alright, so

86. But you're right. I didn't know this. Because I always forget. Now you could argue. Oh no, there's wind resistance. I can try to slow myself and you can become a torpedo. Yeah, maybe he did that. That's why Buddha invented D100s.

Alright. Thank you, Buddha. Gr grant just for this d100 shaking his head with disdain 86 or lower yeah all right 38 oh touch rate okay all right so i'm gonna say you just swan dive and you like a bullet get down there within reach of Sir Will. I love there was a chance that you wouldn't. What do you do? You gotta stand down. What do you do? Alright. Metro cast

Fly on Sir Will. Now when you cast that, you get to fly too, right? That's funny. You're funny. So you cast Fly, you get to fly too, right? That's funny. You're funny. So you cast fly. Fly communal. Fly communal. Do you have fly communal yet?

He literally wouldn't look it up, but he would see it on the boards afterwards. Matthew made up a spell. Mass fly. You cast fly on Sir Will. In that moment, he has the ability to fly. You do not. It's also not that simple because people are going to write it. You need a concentration check.

You've fallen more than 500 feet, which is required to be able to cast a spell by falling. Right. Casting a spell while falling requires a concentration check DC with equal to 20 plus the spells level. Grant, I just want to let you know you've been very helpful these past few weeks. And I, for one, appreciate it. Thanks, Grant. He's had quite the agenda the last couple weeks. I just wanted to put on the record that I did it.

I did it. I Googled fly. Didn't add a Pathfinder. Just Googled fly. Ben there, what came up? Shockingly, it did not come up with anything Pathfinder related. It's all fly porn. What did you say?

20 plus the spell level? What came up? Business travel agency. What's that? I was asking Grant. 20 plus the spell level. So 23? Is it automatic for you? No, it's almost automatic. I have a plus 21 to my concentration. Almost automatic is my favorite kind of roll. My favorite

kind of automatic. It's my favorite kind of automatic. Oh no. No, no, no, no, no, no. I rolled a seven. Oh god, you gave me a heart attack! I thought it was a one. Your face was the face of like a three. That was a three face. I thought it was a one, but it is

a seven. Been there, friend. But it's this beautiful cat's eye die that a fan whose name I'm terribly not forgetting sent us, and you know, cat's eye, if you're at the wrong angle it reflects think about this you jump down there you pass that concentration check to be able to cast this on will at the beginning of your next

turn you're gonna fall another X amount of feet it's true it's true what if you fail the next concentration section do whatever you want to do to save yourself I'll go recruit an army of flying soldiers that can follow me up into the air. Yes, come flying centurions.

Follow me. Find the castle. Fit through a 15 by 15 foot hole. All right. I mean, I could have done reverse gravity to keep us both there aloft, but I just fear... I fear for Nestor and... I guess at this point, they're not going to get up there in time anyway. Well, what's done is done.

Either they're dead or the enemies are dead. You have split. Before Sir Will gets there. The party! You split the party. Meanwhile, back at the warehouse. You have split the party. Listen to him!

It's going to depend on what Troy rules. If you can cast your spell next round before you fall, you'll be where you are. But if you have to fall first before casting your spell, I don't know why you would, but if you do, if he rules that, you will be 2,316 feet away. Yikes. Sounds like your classic D100 rule. Let's go back to the warehouse here. Troy, talk at the top of your microphone. Let's go back to the warehouse. It sounds so awful in my ears.

I'm playing it like a harmonica. All right, we're going to go back to the warehouse where it's going to be Baron's turn. But before you go, Baron, let's just remind our viewers, our listeners, what the situation is. Sir Will and Metra are 600 feet away beneath the flying cloud castle just free-falling, skydiving out the hole, leaving Blindnester Coin, Baron, and Lexington the Magical Wolf

against two huge creatures with crazy reach. You know the Elemental's got good reach. You don't know what the reach of this other guy is, but we got two ranged combatants and a biter that can't hit anything. What do you want to do, Baron? What are you going to do?

I have the Osterberger Troll in my sights. The Mountain Troll in my sights. Baron will take a five-foot step back, still within range of the Elemental, but will give him a very clear shot at the Troll. And will take a full attack action against him. Oh, my gosh.. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Clear gun. Clear eyes. Full heart. Can't lose.

First attack is a 25 to hit. Okay. I didn't even have my iPad open. That is a 25 against Touch AC. Correct. That is a hit, but it provokes from the elemental, so the elemental will resolve his smack-a-do against you. Bob smack so the elemental will resolve his smack-a-do against you. Bob smack-a-do?

Bob smack-a-do. Here we go. Oh, I might have got you. A little bit of damage here. 41. That's a hit. Okay, let me get a couple of d10s. Just a couple of d10s among friends. And that's gonna be 24

points of damage. Okay. Is the D10s among friends. And that's going to be 24 points of damage. Is the troll chaotic? I know it's not evil, you said before. Usually trolls are. This one is chaotic. Chaotic neutral, dude!

This is, I believe, the fourth round since I cast it, so this is the final round it will be active. And you're going for the idea that if you kill him and he summoned this elemental, that'll be enough to remove the elemental as well. That's how summon creatures work, so yes. But you're assuming he summoned.

I asked you that during a knowledge check, and you said he did. Maybe it's in the mantra. Maybe it's in the mantra. Okay. Here we go 49 points of damage oh man my good okay we're almost max uh for this it's um if he has dr it only counts on this attack uh it is magic. Just magic. Straight up magic. Okay.

Bludgeoning, piercing. Bludgeoning, piercing. Second attack. Come on, I need a crit. Another 25. Nice. Cracked eye on that one, but almost maxed. Oh, my God, almost maxed.

Oh, dude. 45 points of damage. Oh, yes. Okay. Clustered shots in effect, so that should all go through. Regeneration. Is it just going to be fire? Is that like the standard for all trolls?

Fire or acid. Or acid. Or acid, okay. Third attack. I have acid splash. Greg, can you shoot one up? I'm also... How much will he...

How many points will he heal by tomorrow? When you get here. I can use my enlarged med magic spell. You have line of sight? What do you got, Jeff? 2,000 feet away. Third attack is a 25 to hit again. Okay.

Six, nine... 38 points of again. Okay. 38 points of damage. Okay. Fourth attack. Come on, crit. Come on, crit. Come on, crit. Oh, so close to a misfire, but it's not.

11 to hit. Touch AC. 11 to hit. Touch AC. Just trying to see if you have any cover here. Obviously, it's a huge creature. Lexington's not going to provide any cover. That is it.

Nice. Here it comes. Yes! Finish him. 41 points of damage on the final attack. Still standing. Wow. Full of bullet holes.

Gushing green blood. That's so gross. And it's its turn. Oh, no. Oh, boy. It is going to... Well, actually it can't move. Because Lexington is blocking one area.

And his elemental... Lexington the tank. Lexington the tank. The unarmored Lexington tank. So, my only option is to attack Lexington He is going to Oh man Let me make sure

What do I want to do here Okay I could just squash Lexington But that's not fun He is going to Touch Lexington And attempt to turn him into stone Whoa

Flesh to stone Is Lexington Made of flesh Yeah God Then I need you to roll Pretty easy fortitude save. Oh boy.

Very easy fortitude save, although I don't know what the saves are for magical wolves as opposed to 15th level characters. But if you fail, you will be a statue of a wolf. And then I will kick you into the shaft.

Oh, God. I don't want to play. I don't want to play anymore. So miserable. Okay. Fortitude save. The wolf can do it. The wolf is strong. What's his fourth bone? So miserable. Okay. Fortitude save. The wolf can do it.

The wolf is strong. What's his fourth bone? Plus 13. I'll tell you right now. Don't roll a natural one. God, I hate this. What die are you using? I've never seen those die. Some shitty die, Grant.

They all suck! No! Oh, no! What does it say? I think it's a natural 20. It's a 13. No, it's a 13. Sorry, I'm going to need that in the box.

House rules. Oh, no. All right, 12, 25. You're all right. You enrolled a natural one. Oh, man. You're all right. You had rolled a natural one. Oh, man. He deserves to die. Who doesn't deserve to die?

Well, yeah, I guess I rolled a natural one. So, yeah, it's an odd situation here. The way that you backed yourselves up into the corner. I could have just attacked Lexington. I thought this would be more fun. Leave the dice in your hands. But that is his turn. It's really crowded back here,

especially with the carcass of the huge taiga giant bleeding out. All right. It is the Earth Elemental's turn. Oh, I think I want to go to Cleveland here now because Nestor should be an easy hit with that AC lowered. So let's go to Cleve. And I'll kick it up a notch and power attack. I think I can do that, right?

Is this standard action? Yes. Here we go. Against Nestoni, that's going to be a 35 to hit. Yeah, that's a hit. All right, so its AC is lowered, but it does do some significant damage to Nestor coin. Here we go. Ooh, a 10 and a 1.

Right down the old average, That is going to be... 11. 34. 34 points of damage. Okay. And then he just... Comes through to Baron. Watch this.

Now 20. Watch it. Nope. Not the giant subtype, Baron. It's going to be a 34. Miss. giant subtype, Baron. It's going to be a 34. Miss! Yeah. From the skin of my chinny chin chin. From the skin of

your chinny chin chin. And then he will take a five foot step just to make it so that Nestor and Baron are completely hemmed in. Right up against the wall and actually makes it a that Nestor and Baron are completely hemmed in. They're right up against the wall, and it actually makes it a really tough shot for Baron

because Baron would provoke and have to shoot through it to get to the troll. It's a really good move, isn't it, guys? Yeah, hats off. Nestor, it's your turn. Your back is against the wall, and you're blind. Anything you do is going to incur an attack of opportunity. It seems like this guy can just hit you with eats. How many hit points do you have left?

Are you almost dead? I have 16 hit points left. And you just took, what, 34 points of damage? I took, yeah, 34 last time. What's your con? 16. 16. So if that happened again, I, 34 last time. What's your con? 16. 16.

So if you take another... Yeah, so if that happened again, like, I would be dead forever. So what do you think? You want to take the attack of two? Yeah, I think I'm just going to hold, because I am going to hold and hope that Baron can kill... Fix this! One of these things before their next turn comes up, or else I am almost certainly dead. Before their next turn comes up, or else I am almost certainly dead.

Yeah, so there's probably a 95% chance if you provoke the AOL, you would be permanently killed on the spot. Yeah, Nestor is like, he's in incredible pain. He's bleeding. He can't see. His eyes have been gouged out or torn open. And he can probably feel this thing like looming over him. He can feel this thing over him. He's, yeah, he's just going to God.

like, kind of, just kind of brace himself and wait for that final blow and hope that those gunshots ring out and find purchase before he goes. Thing is, when it comes back to Baron's turn, Baron, your options are

shoot at the elemental to guarantee that it's out of the way and it can attack Nestor. Or try to hit the Troll through the Elemental. You're still hitting against Touch AC, but it's going to get a plus four bonus to that Touch AC and hope that by taking it out, you know it has some sort of regeneration as a Troll,

that it'll take the Elemental out of play, but then you've got to make sure you get rid of the Troll. I mean, this this is i don't want to tell you how to play a character but i don't envy you uh nester's gonna hold it's really the only option sir will it's your turn you have flight cast on you and it's important because of the range of flight and skills and stuff like that we've established 560 feet. It would have been 570. He was a little bit higher. That's how far away he is.

If you're counting rounds for him to move and do stuff. If it matters right down to the 10-foot range, let me know. But what are you thinking about doing? He's thinking about if he feels himself all of a sudden get, like, suddenly buoyed and can feel Metra moving past him, he's going to try to grab her arm and try to grab on from falling to metro okay um what are you thinking here grapple check sir will's got a really good grapple i mean if you don't want it to work can you be willingly grappled can i wave my can i open myself up in such a way that my cm it's not really a grab It's easier than a grapple because all it has to do is just hold her hand You know what I mean or hold her arm Strength check

But we're going to get pulled down because I'll drag you down Right do you have the strength to hold on to What's your strength Yeah I mean I have an 18 strength I'm sorry I'm sorry I probably don't I was looking at Lexington I have a 16 strength That's plenty she's a A wisp of a thing Sorry. I was looking at Lexington. I have a 16 string. 16.

That's plenty. She's a wisp of the thing. We might, we might. She's a slim little witch. Although she does have the multiple images. Oh, chance to grab the wrong. And it's just like, disappears into smoke. Joe, Joe, add the images to your spine.

Just forget it. It was purely cinematic. Well, now this is fun. Because if I was trying to grab one of those images, I'd have to roll a D6.

The real thing we have to worry about, I think the grapple check is an automatic pass. I think so, too. The real thing we have to look up is

how, what happens when you're flying and you're encumbered. I also think that based off of the fly spell Arresting Will's Fall, it has a potential to rip his arm out of his socket based on how fast you're falling. I'm concerned about that as well. But you can keep going down.

You can slow your descent. You don't have to worry about encumbered. I mean, Sir Will can carry you. Probably regardless of your descent. Air brakes. Gradually. You don't have to worry about encumbered. I mean, Sir Will can carry you. Probably regardless of your weight. Can you fly with me? I don't know what the rules are. Are you even encumbered with her weight on you?

That's what I'm saying. I don't believe so. I'm at a light load right now. Totally fine. I'm sure that you would not take me past heavy. I know it's rude to ask, but how much does Metro weigh? No, it's a fair question.

It's a fair question. According to... The word fly does not appear on the carrying capacity rules. According to this, and this is, I think, preposterous, Metro weighs 101 pounds plus the 34 pounds of gear she's got. That's not preposterous.

Well, her weight might be, but not her gear. She's 5'9". She weighs 101 pounds. That's the standard. That's what I'm saying might be preposterous, but her gear is probably not preposterous. Give me... Her gear is 34 pounds.

The problem is the mirror image. That's one of the problems. You pick her weight. You just got to go into personal and just change her weight. Well, there's a default set by your weight. But it of the problems. You pick her weight. You just got to go into personal and just change her weight. Well, there's a default set by your weight. But it's the minimum. Maybe she is lighter because she's like interdimensional shadow planer.

Yeah, maybe she's not fully. She's made of some shadow stuff. I'm glad we discussed this because now it seems like at the end of the day, we're talking about your classic D100 role. Let's see if it works. It seems like you have the strength to be able to grab her. Where she just touched you, I agree with your argument that you could just very quickly reflex grab her. The issue is there's six of her.

And she's falling. And there's this. And there's that. So give me a D100 roll. And I'm going to give you a 69% chance that this works. This is great. This is like playing a Dells game back in the day. Except when there weren't rules for all this stuff.

So just like, ah, just throw percentile dice. It's a 42% chance. And this is how we resolved everything. 69% chance sounds about right. We did an 86 earlier. Let's do a 69. Okay, 69% chance. He reaches it.

Had to grab on to Metra Guaranteed you'll grab her And then we'll deal with What you want to do after that Oh 31 I thought it was 81 It was 31 He got her

He got her And then he's And then like Captain America Why did I say Captain America It doesn't fly It doesn't fly Who flies

Give me somebody who flies Thor That's incredibly handsome Thor Thor Just like Thor Jesus Captain America! Why did I say Captain America? It doesn't fly. Who flies? Give me somebody who flies. Thor. That's incredibly handsome. Thor. Thor. Just like Thor. Jesus.

Jesus. Give me somebody incredibly handsome who flies. Jesus. All right, so he grabs her, and he flies 2,000 feet straight back into the shaft. Well, just make a ruling! Sounds like a D-100. Sounds like a D-100 to me. A classic D-100.

That's what you do to me. Pressure me into making a rash decision. No, that could be my round. I just wanted to hold her at that place and give her a second. That's your standard. You do have a move. Fly 60 feet up in the direction of this. Yeah, I'll fly 60 feet up if you consider her to be light enough.

Because I'm at a light load right now. I mean, listen. There's a lot happening with the physics and mechanics of this. What I'm interested in is how do we tell the best story in a way that's fair and there's real stakes. So I'm not interested in if

if uh there's like an exact way to do this but if there is a possible rule that might help us make decisions i'm interested in that uh at the end of the day i just want to tell a good story and i think we're doing that so let's move on to i'm also going to say something that i didn't say previously is that once he was falling and knew he was going to heal himself in that first round as like a just like that was his only option his sword was loose in his hand so he sheathed his sword as he was falling

just so we have that clear so for some reason he comes back in this combat he does not have his sword in his hand that's a lot of presence of mind though I know but I mean this is an incredibly valuable item this is the symbol of item. This is his, the symbol of his god!

Just in case! I'm just imagining myself in this situation. Now, I don't have Sir Woll's combat training, but if I were falling from thousands of feet up in the air, and I had the sword in my hand, and I was plummeting to my death, I don't know that I would

see the sword. I'd let the sword go. He was just literally hours ago, well, a day ago, like, plummeting to my death. I don't know that I would see the sword. I'd let the sword go. He was just literally hours ago, well, a day ago, like plummeting to his death. In your defense, I think you did have your move action

when you fell, so you could have used it. Gandalf grabbed the sword while he was plummeting into the depths of Moria. Fact. That's another person Sir Will reminds me of.

I just flashed that again because of your recommendation. Oh, not, it's a good movie. No, no, you, oh, you want the popcorn, the popcorn in bed? Popcorn in bed. Yes. Thor meets Gandalf. It was very funny. Yeah, she's the record. It's a good movie. Oh, you want the popcorn in bed? Popcorn in bed.

She's awesome, right? It was very funny. Yeah, she's the best. She's awesome. It's top of the round. It's Metra. Metra, you just ripped Sir Will's arm out of its socket. You're falling to your death with a bloody stump.

I'm very light, and I only dislocated it. I know. I'll fix it later. Grant, I want you to imagine. What would that feel like right now? Left arm falling top speed that's that's great to relive so much i think that might actually break up the last of my scar tissue and bring back my full range of motion oh yeah just a little pop and then you just oh yeah one moment of excruciating pain and then a lifetime of these that's how most of it came back one night i was bored of this exercise I was doing that I did really slowly when it hurt.

And then I just did it really fast that I just heard. And then I was like, oh, my God, so much better. So I need you to follow, pre-follow and have me dive after you, Matthew. Cool. Anytime, Grant. Thank you. Metro, you're up. New round.

Round 17. Cast fly on myself. Okay. And then I was like, thank you so well. We must get Okay. And then I said, thank you, Sir Will. We must get back. And then 60 feet up. 60 feet up. All right.

So Sir Will went 60 feet up. You go 60 feet up with? So she's 60 feet ahead of Sir Will. All right. And we were at whatever, 490. 560. We said we'd go like that. 560.

Right. And you weren't over your encumbrance. You could do that 60 feet easy. Right. I'm assuming so. I'm pretty sure that that's accurate. Okay, I'm just curious. I don't want to ticky-tack it, but I'm curious if, like, that you wouldn't.

What kind of armor are you wearing, Sir Will? I was carrying 39 in terms of weight, and I can go up to 172 before I'm over encumbered. What kind of armor are you wearing? Medium armor, heavy armor? If you're wearing medium or heavy armor, your fly speed is only 40 feet. Oh, okay, so good call. All right, so heavy armor. All right, so if you weren't encumbered by her, you were able to go up 40 feet,

and now you release his hand and you go up another 60. Yeah. And we established, obviously the castle's moved, that you fell. 560. Right. But the base of the castle is 360 feet away and now you're 100 feet closer. So you're 260 feet away. Yeah.

But with Pythagoras, you know, you're around there. Around there. So the point is, flying slowly every six seconds is going to be a real race. I mean, but then after, now that I've got a cast, I can fly 120 feet. Yeah. Okay. That's good because the castle is moving faster than you ever could. Yeah.

So, it is. And the text of fly disallows the run action, correct? I believe it does. We've played it that way. Yes, the subject of the fly spell can charge but not run. There we go. Oh, there you go. What if... Hear me out.

Yes. We've established this castle has plumbing, that there is some sort of dumping mechanism to get rid of any solid and liquid waste. There's dumping. Maybe, like, you know, it needs to stop, and it needs to kind of slow down to release the waste

so as not to, like, get caught in the poop exhaust. Is this going to lead to a conversation where you have me roll a D100 to decide whether in this moment they were stopping to drop their waste? How did you guess? Barrett, it's your turn. How did you guess? You give them one D-100, they want a mile!

They want a D-1 million! Metro would be willing to fly through the poop haze. I bet he would. She would. He went through a mile ofze. I bet he would. She would. He went through a mile of shit. Came out clean on the other side. Came out clean on the other side. Baron, no pressure, but Nestor's life depends on this.

But hey, maybe at the end of the day, getting rid of Nestor Coyne would be a stone groove. Yeah, but that's not in Baron's lawful personality. He does look to his right and see, maybe not fear, but whatever a sociopath self-described as Skid has called Nestor is feeling in a moment where he can't even act. He can't do what he normally does,

which is lash out and kill the things that are in his way. And he looks through the legs of this giant earth elemental to line up a shot against the troll that has been whaling him because he believes that this troll summoned this creature because of a knowledge roll, but also he just feels it. He just feels it in his plums.

In his plums. Oh my god, a misfire here would be amazing. First attack is a 22 to hit. Oh my god, a misfire here would be amazing. First attack is a 22 to hit. 22. Getting that boost from the touch. Against the troll.

It is a hit. However, the earth elemental will take an attack of opportunity. Hit me right in my plums. I demand it right in my damn plums. Power attack has been on. We'll stay on. Natural one. Yeah!

Let the troll watch. Joe, well, he has multiple attacks. Let me see. Yeah, 33. That would still be a fumble. That is a fumble. Nice. Joe, that would be a natural attack fumble see if it has anything relevant for the combat uh okay uh this one from al straight

in franklin indiana you'll never be over macho grande Grande. This is the Earth Elemental? Mm-hmm. Macho Grande. You have a flashback to a previous traumatic experience and begin to monologue about that prior to, about that prior trauma for 1D3 rounds. During this time, you have the shaking condition. No save.

In any attempt to drink anything requires a will save to avoid spilling the contents upon yourself. So, shaken, basically. Shaken. Yeah. Sorry to run over that, Alstrait. It just happened to be a fucking earth elemental. Bad timing. I mean, barren. I was probably thinking back to a time when

he was maybe in an earthquake. It's just like, is this it for me? Is this the last of Nameless Elder Earth Elemental? Yes, there you go. If he tries to take a boat, he goes, all over himself. Here's the thing, Baron. You mentioned it last week, and you were very confident about it,

and so I just kind of let it go. And then I forgot to look it up before this session, and then I just started looking it up as we were getting towards the deeper parts of this combat, the endgame, if you will. look it up before this session and I just started looking it up as we were getting towards the deeper parts of this combat. The end game, if you will. I don't think a summoned creature goes away when

the person who cast it dies. Because the duration is what's important. Unless it's a spell that has a duration of concentration. If the troll doesn't need to concentrate on the spell, that magic exists until it doesn't. So there is an argument to be made

that maybe the Earth Elemental, without its master, wouldn't continue going, but I just want to throw out there the fact that that thing is still going to be around should you kill the troll, which means, well, you better kill it and kill the elemental just to make sure. Well, this is still the best course of action in my opinion. If it did summon it, it is the more powerful creature,

and it's how I would have gone at it anyway. Yeah. And I'm doing more damage because of its giant subtype. So I'll give you the damage that I rolled on my first attack. That is 29 points of damage. The good news is the troll is dying. Okay. I put the X on him, but you know trolls.

They'll be back. They're going to slowly come back. Now, if you don't know what his regeneration is, it might take a couple rounds, but he's going to come back. He's going to need something to stop that regeneration and then another hit beyond that to make sure you take him below. I'm going to plug him with another shot just to take his HP

down even lower. How many shots you got left? Three. You could also plug the elemental. You could. I could, but I risk the troll getting back up now. If it comes back, it's got to stand up and then it's got to move. And Wexington's there, yeah.

The elemental could kill Nestor. All right, here comes the elemental. That is going to be a 30 to hit the elemental. Yes. That's a big old hit. That is going to... Oh, wait. No additional dice, because...

Do we ever determine? We never determine the type. I can't figure out the type. Yeah, not giants. But I don't know the type currently,. I can't figure out the type. Yeah, not giants. It's Arcana. But I don't know the type currently, so I can't call down a swift action. 28 points of damage.

I'm sorry, what? I don't have knowledge Arcana, so I can't determine what this is. Knowledge planes for the elemental. Knowledge planes. I don't have the correct knowledge. Didn't Sir Will roll it? Do I know what type this creature is?

Of course you would. I would argue. Yeah, you know an elemental. It's an outsider Do I know what type this creature is? Of course you would. I would argue. Yeah, you know an elementalist. It's an outsider. You know what I mean? It's clearly an earth element. I don't want you hamstringing yourself. At this stage of the game, your heroes you know a lot more than you do.

Yeah, these are typical. Like, they're very well known. There's only earth, air, fire, water. It's just like a bigger version of the things we've already fought. Swift action, call down Bane. You have fought an earth element before. Right. Then I will swift action, call down Bane. You have fought an Earth Elemental before. Then I will swift action, call down Bane against Earth Elementals.

Sir Will has turned into an Earth Elemental before. That's true as well. And you hate it. Then that is going to be 38. You looked with such jealousy. 38 points of damage against the Earth Elemental on the first attack against it. And that kills the Earth Elemental.

Oh my god! That's how the earth element. Oh my god! That's how close it was! Oh my god, I can't believe you were that close. Oh my god. Well, I hope you two and Lexington have a fun time, uh, defeating Volsus. Yes, best of luck to both of you. Yeah. Cyril and I are gonna

go retire. We'll be there in a month and a half. I'm gonna use, I'm gonna... I'm going to summon Lexington to my side at some castle far away. I'm going to use my final two attacks to plug the troll. Okay. Just blam blam. 13 on the die for a 25 to hit. Yep. That is going

to be 33 points of damage. Okay. And then I'm going to just stop firing to avoid a misfire at this point. Avoid that risk. Yeah, because at this point you feel pretty confident you've taken it far enough below that you just need to make sure you hit it with the proper element to make sure it doesn't regenerate next time.

Is there any mechanic for that? Like, can you kill a troll enough that it can just die? There might be, honestly. Well, why don't we just light a torch like burn it with a torch i have acid splash i was just curious if like because if you like chop one up is like no no because they could come back like even just like a fingertip really like regrow that's so cool at the same time i remember like back in book one reading in depth about this because regeneration was still like, I couldn't wrap

my head around it because we hadn't played as much as we've played now. There are mechanics for it, but I think Skid's right. Anything can regrow. If I'm remembering right, yeah. Like Skirkotla's armor, even a chain of that mail was all you needed to have to regrow her.

At the end of my full round action, I'm going to take a five foot step in front of Nestor. Both to protect him in case something else shows up and because it's going to be difficult terrain and I just want to make sure I have all the movement I can by the time I need to close in on the troll's corpse. You have the

HP to give. He does not. It would have been the troll's turn. He gets a little bit of juice. Elemental's gone. It is the troll's turn He gets a little bit of juice Elemental's gone It is Nestor's turn Nestor's gonna Wait is this a

I heard a couple of loud thuds Is that what I think it was Yeah they're gone But so's Metra and Will What What are you talking about, mate? We'll talk about it later. You having a laugh?

You pulling my leg? I wish I could. Pull the other one. Okay. Blind Nestor, yelling in the dark. It is Sir Will's turn, followed by Metra. Guys have a plan here? Well, let me ask you this question.

Will you allow us to dimension door back to where we were? Will you allow us to dimension door into the base level of the castle? It's tricky, right? Because dimension door, you just have to think of it, right? You don't have to actually see it. Yep, 900 feet. It is a teleportation effect, so I don't know what the field... Yeah, does the teleportation field,

anti-teleportation field not exist around the base? Which wouldn't make any sense. Then you could always just teleport in or out of the castle. Right, that's where it gets complicated, if you don't have to see it. I can understand. You can only do it if you can see it, because then if you leave, you can't get back there because you don't know where it is.

Well, no. You never have to see anything. I know. Well, that's the thing that's tricky, because the energy field blocks all astral travel, causing any attempt to teleport into or out of the castle fail outright. You can travel throughout the castle interdimensionally, though, but getting in and out. So could we teleport into a duct?

Yeah. Well, this is the thing, is that the energy field doesn't include the base. So that makes me feel like you could just leave and teleport back in any time you want. And then you have to fight your way up to the level wherever you were. Maybe that's a trade-off? Yeah, but then an argument can be made that what you thought of that place

is no longer in the place that it was because it's moving. Oh, yeah. The way it's written is like when you're in the castle, you're in until the end of the game. I would argue now, because you can visualize it. I'm like, there. There's the castle. I can go to the location. That's what I'm saying. It because you can visualize it. I'm like, there. There's the castle. I can go to the location.

That's what I'm saying. It's such a tough combo. It's like, when you're in the castle, it's written so that when you're in the castle, you're into the end of the game, and yet we have baked in a shaft that, with one roll and no save, can just end a character in the sixth book of a campaign. A perfectly healthy character. And no way to get back. It seems odd.

It seems like there must be something we're missing. Right. I mean, couldn't you dimension door up to the entrance of the shaft and then fly the rest of the way? You have to dimension, you have to, when you teleport, I was just reading this, there's some rule that you have to land on ground. Oh, wow. So no.

Jeez. But I could dimension us into a duct, which is in the lower. Oh, you're saying the problem is that we can't catch the castle? That's how fast it's flying? No, no. I think you can catch the castle. In my mind's eye. Well, then what's the big deal?

The encounter's over. We'll just fly back up there. I was just trying to get there faster. No, no. I get it. But I don't think we need to go that... You can get there faster. You can make a tunnel of anti-gravity squares all the way to the tunnel and into it. I only have... You mean with reverse gravity?

Yeah. I only have 15 10-foot cubes. That's 150 feet. We're farther than that right now. That's further than either of you could fly. No, she flies 120 It's not even worth the standard action It's not anti-gravity, it's reverse gravity

Yeah, you could reverse the gravity from where you are To where you flop, flow into there You let go I guess we could argue I would say that You have the ability to just fly back up If you go with all haste Now that neither of you are falling to your death, and you're

both under the effects of spells that can have you fly back in, you're able to catch up with it. It's a desperate race. Question. Yes. Are they going to shoot harpoons at us? That is an excellent question. And we'll see you next week.

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