The Glass Cannon Podcast - Giantslayer Episode 303 - For Whom Dispel Tolls

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

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Last week on the Glass Cannon Podcast. What to do, what to do. What do you mean, what to do? Smash her head into a million pieces. The heroes found themselves bathed in darkness. And you hear a presence come up toward you. Toward you. A presence that doesn't care about your mirror images.

That can see exactly where. I told you! You're the worst! Not you! Ah! Ah! Ha ha ha ha! No!

And fighting blind. He'll throw the lance to the ground. He pulls out Rose Light. Holds it up in the air. Looks toward it for guidance. Though I cannot see you, Hyomete will guide my hand! And though they were able to dispatch one foe...

Alright, so Baron, you see this creature just fly up to Sir Will. The creature just flew its last flight. The light is fading fast. A couple things are gonna happen. First, you take 22 points of damage from this bite, and then you just

start... Having these wrenching spasms that rack your body, causing you to be nauseated, and you take four points of strength damage and four points of dex damage. Oh, no!

The adventure continues now. It's that time of year When the world falls in love Every song you hear seems to say Merry Christmas, Matthew and your beautiful bearded face. Matthew, you look very spiffy

today in your tie and your neatly trimmed beard. Are you going to a gala tonight? I did it for you guys. Oh, for us? Yeah. Joe's wearing a Lork's Gonna Lork shirt. Lork's Gonna Lork, dude. Handsome shirt. Merry Christmas. you guys not for us yeah joe's wearing a lorx gonna lorx shirt handsome shirt merry christmas a child won a contest to make that uh the artwork on there it was one of those like uh grocery store contest art for the glass cannon you say that and i don't understand how

what is it that makes one shirt that we buy better than another shirt regardless of design like the actual shirt i don't know like this shirt falls so much better than the glass cannon network logo navy shirt and and they're the same brand falls like falls like falls on me like yeah just like the way that it wears. It's so much better. And it's the same brand, the same manufacturer, the same percentages of material. Right, the same weight. The same weight. Yeah, exactly. The Pride shirt.

Incredible. And the Network shirt, garbage. I don't understand. On me, on me. I just don't understand what the difference could be. You got to put them on shoe trees for at least three months before you wear it the first time. This is just smart business. You got to stretch them out on a nice cedar plank and then

by the time you put it on, it'll just fall the way your body wants it to and I'll smell like a tree. It is strange because you know, Norse Foundry gives us a new t-shirt every other week, which is just smart because we wear them and we order the same exact shirts

and sometimes I'm like, why does the Norse Foundry one fit better than the same exact shirt, color, style, everything? These fucking pieces of shit at Norse Foundry. They're like your friends. They're like the grants of the world when you ask for the brisket recipe and he's like, here you go.

And you make it and you're like, this isn't the same. We cannot seem to match the fall of these beautiful Norse foundry shirts. Yeah. Despite having the exact same percentage of cotton versus polyester. Hey, Joe, I'm going down to Florida to meet up with the Norse foundry guys for Christmas. And you're not invited. Especially after that outburst. Yeah.

You can go to hell. I'm just jealous. It's just jealous. I mean, there's only so outburst yeah you can go to hell i'm just jealous it's just jealous i mean there's only so many trade secrets you can give away and to what what impoverished nation you outsource your t-shirt design that's the thing yeah these folks are running uh factories in all sorts of different countries i mean you probably order from the same company and get it from a different factory and the label's the same but yeah it's probably coming from a different factory could be coming from a whole different nation, and you just never know. Yeah, most of our shirts are next level 60-40.

And it could be that one distributor is sending next level 60-40s, different distributor over here is sending the same exact shirt, and they're just slightly different to feel different. Well, one of those factories is phoning it in, is what I'm saying. I just wish I knew which one it was. I don't want to necessarily give this business free publicity, but I was on uh uber eats the other night and i saw george lopez tacos and i was like i love that show the george lopez show so i'm gonna look into it and i thought george lopez opened a chain uh much like a lot of celebrities open up chains of things and george

lopez tacos is just like an umbrella corporation for a group of restaurants that sell similar mexican tacos that can all order and like do their back end so like it's just so that wherever you go in whatever city even though the restaurant's totally unrelated you know that you're going to get something similar by ordering through george lopez i despise that practice the weirdest thing i've ever seen i did too i thought it was a little strange but it's also helping out the little guys the little taquerias who are just trying to make it but that's why you have these crowds of morons in times square piling into tgi fridays the city is some of the best food in the world they're cramming themselves into tgi fridays and bubba gumps a bunch of rubes and i should be clear to all of you it is still owned by mr george there he is

there he is i mean i enjoy his comedy and i'm sure he makes it gets good tacos at home but he calls it a virtual restaurant it's so strange it breaks my head to think about i don't know about all this new stuff is it a badge of honor to have lived in or near new york for nearly 20 years and never set foot in bumma grum shrimp i certainly never have i did go in there once because my girlfriend at the time had a gift certificate that she won at work and uh that sounds like the reason to go i vowed never to set foot in that place ever again How was the food? He vowed never to set foot in that place ever again It was very salty It's just such a relic

Like a movie Spawned I don't know, maybe there's other Bubba Gums A bad movie in retrospect Like a backdraft cafe Being downtown East Village It's just so weird Are there other baba gum

cafe what is it all like you know like it's an open plan kitchen so you can see them just like flambéing everything it's just so strange it comes by every now and then you're just like with the fire extinguisher just put everything i put the grease fires out steel magnolias brunch i bet that's a delicious, delicious Southern brunch. That would be nice. And everybody gets some juice so they don't go into it. Drink your juice, Shelby. Drink your juice, Shelby.

That's a cocktail. If you don't drink it, you're going to shock. Drink your juice, Shelby. Shelby, drink your juice. Are there other Baba Gums, though? I need to know this. Yeah, there's a bunch. It's based in Houston, I think, or Dallas.

And yeah, there's a bunch. It's based in Houston, I think, or Dallas. And yeah, it's a bunch of California. Dallas known for its pristine seafood. Absolutely. Being right by the ocean like Dallas is. Yeah, all the shrimp box. Setting sail from the harbor at Dallas. They start at the stockyards out in Fort Worth and they go all the way. No, there's no.

You'll be shocked to know that there are six of them in Florida. I actually didn't know that. I thought that the Times Square one was the only one. I've never seen another bubble gum. What a terrible state. What, New York? No, Florida. You know, you get on these state tiers.

You got one. You got one. I like Florida a lot. I was just thinking about on the walk here. There got one. You got one. I like Florida a lot. I was just thinking about on the walk here. There's no state income tax. Disney World's there. Manatees.

Manatees. Can't find those up here. That's true. Can't find them in Florida anymore either. Well, you can if you're going too fast in your motorboat.

I want to go to Key West. I'd like to go to Key West. I think that would be a good time. But it seems like a real pain in the ass to get to. It's pretty... Where do you fly to go to Key West. I think that would be a good time. But it seems like a real pain in the ass to get to. It's pretty... Where do you fly to go to Key West?

Does it have an airport? It has an airfield. Okay. Yeah, but you can also like... Actually, JetBlue flies there. Direct. To Key West, I believe. Wait, isn't that how JetBlue got famous?

Isn't that what put them on the map or started the airline? It was like direct New York to Key West. That sounds right. I think that was like a big selling point. Our buddy Randy, who's been on various parts of the network here and there, he's a big Key West guy to no one's surprise.

That makes a lot of sense. His two go-to ways with never has two nickels to rub together in his pocket is to fly to Miami and rent a sports car to drive to Key West. Amazing! Go over that big old yeah you go over that bridge oh my god or to fly to like fort myers and i think you can take one of those like puddle hoppers to

oh sure which uh also a big uh jet blue hub not only does key west have an airport but it's an international airport so i think getting to it is actually pretty easy you'd think that would be an important step if you're a tourism hub right but such a tiny little island like out there my favorite place that i've ever been in florida was uh last year of high school a friend of mine's mom had a vacation rental out in seaside florida which is where they filmed the truman show so i just got to walk around and kind of see the classics yeah and it was it was a lot of fun they originally wanted to release that movie by having like cameras in the theaters and cut to the people watching the movie and really freak them out but they could never figure it out and i've always loved that idea that's something we should try

to get done someday just cut to someone listening in their bathroom like right now i'm talking to you john do you know the truman's row was based on a true story? Go on. Tried to hold that joke because I thought you'd be like, really? It's now, and I was listening to a thing about how it's now kind of like an unofficial name for an official diagnosis. People come in and say, I think my life has been made a TV show. I'm being watched. I think you're all actors. And it's a psychiatric diagnosis and it's like unofficially called like the truman show the truman show yeah because and it's i mean there's a whole i think there's a whole like this should listen so so you don't listen to get in the trunk season three episode one i don't have a patreon subscription damn it matthew keeps coming back to that always the excuse listen i don't ask for

much it's a write-off you can write it off i don't like the truman show though because i feel that unfairly overshadows what is in my opinion the superior movie about the beginnings of reality tv phenomenon which is ed tv i knew you were going to say that yep i remember that i did i did at blockbuster isn't that matthew mcconaughey yeah did they come out at the same time or ed tv was a couple months before or no no it's a tv series uh no ed tv came out in 98, I think. They did make a TV show of it. EdTV is 99. Truman Show is 98, isn't it?

Oh, wow. Truman Show is 98. So EdTV, its merits notwithstanding. I'm just saying it's a better movie. I'm just saying it's a better movie. But it did piggyback. Well, I think it was in production far longer than Truman Show was, given its budget. The Truman Show was originally a spec script inspired by a 1989 episode of The Twilight Zone.

Oh, I love it. That TV was directed by Ron Howard, written by Lowell Ganz and Babalu Mandel. I love that name. I've never seen that name before. They write a lot of his movies. Yeah. They wrote City Slickers. I was watching that that name before. They write a lot of his movies. Yeah, they wrote City Slickers. I was watching that the other night.

They're quite well known. A league of their own. Wow. How's City Slickers? Does that hold up? No. No. But only because I hate Billy Crystal now. So why were you watching City Slickers? Because I like Jack Palance.

But he dies in the movie. And then after that, I was like, why am i still watching spoilers wow i mean the other delightful thing about jack palance is his oscar acceptance speech yeah for that movie we did the push-ups we did the push-ups one-handed i'm very excited that i cannot remember how this banter started at the point normally i that there's a thread i think we've had 30 topics. It was Christmas. Twilight Show still holds up. Twilight Zone? Twilight Zone, yeah. The Twilight Show still holds up.

That, too. The Twilight Show sounds like the failed spinoff of Golden Girls. Where Rose gets her own show. Actually, there is a spinoff of Golden Girls, isn't there? Don't they open a hotel or something? Well, Empty Nest is a spinoff of Golden Girls, technically, isn't it? like open a hotel or something well empty nest is a spinoff of golden girls technically isn't it right i watched that show i watched some yes i never liked it as much as golden girls didn't the uh the actor that played joe isuzu was on that david leisure david leisure yeah he was very popular he was he was he was

i feel like we were at a live show and we came down for lunch before a show one day and grant was like i was watching things on tv and Golden Girls is a really great show. I stand by Golden Girls. I will follow Golden Girls into the jaws of hell. That is a great show. It is a good show. I've been watching it too. It's awesome.

Christy McNichol was on Empty Nest. Really? What? Was she? I think she was. She is. You're absolutely right. She's second built.

Wow. I didn't remember that. She's the one that leaves, gives them an empty nest right yeah i think oh okay and she comes back every once in a while to check in on her parents problems and what's it mulligan the richard mulligan richard mulligan who was on i knew i knew from soap which is maybe one of the best five or six sitcoms of all time. A lot of actors came out of soap. Well, I'm interested to see what actors will survive this episode. The players that you have are played by actors. Golden Palace.

Yes, Golden Palace. It's the first spinoff. It's okay. I didn't have a good segue anyway. I've been thinking a lot about this episode because we actually, Curtain Raised, recorded this a few weeks ago. So the listening audience hasn't had a chance to listen, complain about it. dispelling of deeper darkness. So I've had some time to look into it. And not surprisingly, the boards are pretty divided on it. But I will say the majority of people agree with your assessment of it, that you should be able to just dispel an area and me reading into the targeting of dispel is perhaps reading too much into that. But I want to open up a little early discussion here before we jump back into this

very, very dangerous combat about rules in general because I, first of all, I'll just say I'm keeping it the way that I've ruled it. Let's have a discussion, but bear in mind this discussion will have

no actual relevance. I'm really interested in all of your opinions on this decision I've already made. Well, the opinions I'm interested in is like, at what point do you massage the rules in a way that you think is best for each encounter or each moment? To me, I thought that that was a good... I'm just going to watch an episode rather than listen to this i thought it was a good interpretation at this level of the game to be like no you got to spend three rounds working on detect magic to pinpoint the source of it so you can dispel that target and i thought your argument was good but i just thought it would

make a more interesting combat uh to add a little wrinkle in there and like now i'm fully aware that characters could die because of that decision but i'm okay with it because that's the decision uh that i've made and i think that the rules are there to be to be massaged to do what you think is going to be best. And it took me a few years to learn that. And it was in talking to our buddy Jason Bowman, who oftentimes will say, the guy who created the game, basically. It's like the rules are there. Use the ones you like.

And if there's a rule that you don't like, throw it out. Play the game that you want to play. And it's taken me a while to realize that. And I don't know. It had to be your good buddy, Jason Bolton. Had to be my good buddy. Not your good buddy, Joe O'Brien. Well, I tend to listen to what you say and do the exact opposite for safety's sake.

For instinct. The good buddy who also basically created Pathfinder 2.0, who disagrees with you very strongly about the use of hero points in that system. And who you directly clash with. That's true. But he's the one contradicting himself by saying that uh but he's saying it's so crucial and so critical to the game at that point balance of the yeah are you interested in balance balance in all things balance in in these games yeah well i'll tell you the more like to pitch it against the players more?

Yes, I do. Yeah. I do. I think so. Probably to a fault. I mean, the advantage is on the player's side, ultimately. Even though you have total control, if you were to just go after us to the point where we'd lose every time, it would be no fun to play. So ultimately, the players do have a baked-in advantage.

Yeah, yeah. And sometimes I make encounters seem like they're death-defying when I know you guys are going to squash them just because I'm amping it up for the show. But I don't know. It's it's it's a weird thing to to navigate, especially at the end of the game here where I know I only have so many encounters left. Yesterday, I put into my hero lab the remaining encounters, possible encounters for this book. And I'm like, wow, this show is almost over. There's just not a whole lot left, and you may not do everything. Now, there's a lot of other things besides just encounters and monsters and battles left to finish this story. But in looking at these final few encounters,

it's actually been more stressful than fun, honestly. Sometimes I come in in i'm just like uh i don't want to do it i don't want to do it because i don't want to fuck it up you know what i mean and it's not because i care about people bitching about the rules people that care more about the rules they still listen every single week uh that's all i care about um it's just that i want to do justice to the end of this story. I don't want you to go into a battle with these final great encounters and have you just mash them because I fucked something up. But also, I don't want to just kill one of you because I fucked something up. And so that brings us to this encounter.

I don't think I fucked something up. I think I just made a GM decision. That's something I have to do from time to time, especially to keep things moving for a show but like i do realize that it could end up yeah killing it just uh just a matter of severity of the decision you're making right like this was where you got flack for making baron misfire for so high of a range like that's a statistically an enormous thing so making the decision that deeper darkness or whatever the spell is is targeted and not something that can be dispelled, even though it's affecting an area is an incredibly momentous choice.

It was also made in ignorance of the actual rule, rather than being like a deliberate choice. Well, I doubt I would disagree with, because I think that, um, we were reading left interpretation and like no one, uh,

it wasn't so strong that you were like, no, you're wrong. It's this. interpretation and like no one, uh, it wasn't so strong that you were like, no, you're wrong. It's this. It was like, Oh, I could see what you're saying. I don't agree with it.

Well, maybe it's ignorance. I think it's made an ignorance possibly of our ability to overcome such a challenge, which I think that you think we always have something for everything. But in this case, dispel magic was the only thing we have. And so then it like also you didn't know we had that we've never used it before and it's like skid and i after that episode skid and i got into a discussion of this at dinner

because we went to go see dune that night it was oh yeah that was a nice evening by the way highly recommend going to see dune with skid because for most of the movie he was just so purely delighted it made crying a lot i didn't i didn't look that close i wanted to give him his space but he did like he would like something would happen and he just could like get like caught up in a fit of like joy yeah it was just like smashing my thigh with my fist and like clapping i did the same thing i was very uh reactive in those in those kind of ways sitting next to my wife on the couch watching it on hbo and she just kept slowly looking i bet you love with just such distaste but anyway we were talking about it and the thing that we were pointing out

is that without the ability to use the spell magic you've essentially reduced the encounter to a one spell encounter. So if you have daylight, then you can fight back. But if you don't, you can't. Yeah. And this is not an indictment of you. It's an indictment of the system. And it goes all the way back to original D&D. And what I love about Blades, for example, is this concept of uh preparing making characters prepare for the

complete unknown and when they don't prepare properly they die or they get really devastated by it um i would prefer the challenge to come in other ways because if your character is perfectly capable of casting a magical spell from their god called daylight. Why can't they just cast it when they need it and only have access to a certain amount of times per day? The God has office hours. You have to call them between like the, you know, 12 and 4 in the a.m. Yeah. And if you miss them, then that's it. You have to get them the next day.

And I don't think it's a matter of imbalance. And I think that having access to all of it immediately swings it too far the other way and you got to figure out a way to balance it out again and i get all that i'm just saying it's more fun it is to have access to more stuff and only use what you need i think it also shows incredible integrity on your part because you don't send a wax seal letter of your spells to troy that you've prepared before every recording. You just pushed away this market. Signet ring. House library. Signet ring. That's a crime. Yeah, well, now that I play a mid-level cleric in Skid's game,

I don't even enjoy choosing my spells. I'm just like, ah. I don't care. It's so daunting. Yeah. And every day, you basically just have to prepare, for the most part, the most broadly usable spells yeah unless you have a

specific idea of what you're going to be getting into the next day right which if you don't have a proper rogue or you have a gm like troy it doesn't let rogues really do their thing you know find out all the intel in advance the spell casters don't i mean clerics don't have to prepare all their spells they can wait but like But like, in this case, we wouldn't know. Yeah, we wouldn't know at the time of combat, for sure. Yeah, it's like clerics in original D&D and moving forward to 3.5 had like the first sense of what it would feel like to own Netflix in 2021. Just like this, this tyranny of choice every day when you wake up. And that's been the nice thing kind of about being an Inquisitor is that i'm kind of locked in and there are times i wish i had other spells but at least every time

we rest i'm not just like pulling my hair out like what do i prep yeah yeah or just picking a list that i go with unless someone gets cursed or some other like type of event like that well it kind of goes back to our old ruling of you know you only prepare like your highest level of spell yes i love that house it was really fun it's a fun house rule it's definitely like overpowered though it is based on for sure the rules but but it is it does make things way more fun i also think i also think it would be my highest level of spells i think uh daylight i'm not sure but um i don't want to get this too far into uh what sounds like uh no it is not my highest level spell so in our old house rule i could have cast daylight so uh i

don't want this to sound like it's just bitching and complaining um because i'm very interested in this encounter right now and i'm very excited about it because you know what there are a lot of ways we could have been prepared for this and we just weren't it's not only daylight or dispel magic or greater dispel magic um there's true seeing there you know what i mean like i don't true seeing what you see through deeper darkness i mean that's how are they seeing i believe true seeing would it does it allows you to see i mean these creatures is it dark vision plus true seeing that allows them to see into deeper darkness uh uh true seeing i think true seeing allows you to see through magical darkness uh yes that's that's what i'm assuming is the only way these creatures could possibly see us it's kind of like when

you're playing poker and like uh you're waiting for the river you've got x amount of outs there were x amount of outs here i just took one away from you by not allowing to spell magic right but there's you know true seeing is a very high level spell yeah but i'm saying up i'm saying in the encounter design not troy's anything and not our party in the encounter design there's plenty of ways to get over this as if you're while you're writing it you know if you have a wizard that's 15th level you can have true seeing you know what i mean like yeah and even dispel magic allows a role so it's not guaranteed oh no it's definitely not guaranteed it would be a hard one because it's because yeah the cast level of that guy is probably gonna be really high for me and i've obviously had the hindsight of being able to think about this and retroactively sort of adapt my

reasoning for it um which i have the benefit of uh so you have to take this with a grain of salt like a lot of times monsters will have exceptional supernatural or spell like abilities that you can look up in the book that this is what they are but this monster will be like but there's functions like this which makes it even harder like you cannot do x to it um you cannot blah blah blah so in my mind it was like just making it specific that like you need to be able to see where it was because the deeper darkness was cast on yeah spell it but no and that's that's fine i mean i will i have no problem with doing something like that i'm just worried that this is

this the consequences of this might be so severe that it might rest on that decision. Right, right. But on casting daylight, by the way, before we return to that idea of the gravity of that situation, would you require daylight to be cast on the source of the darkness still? Because then that's affecting an area and not an individual. Do you know what I mean? It's two auras canceling each other out at that point? I think so. Daylight supersedes. Daylight on Sir Will's lance. It would start emanating and overpowering the darkness so

similar to like bless and bane right like their auras that counteract one another right right it's similar to light and darkness okay so like darkness supersedes light but uh and then deeper darkness is higher level and then the highest level, I believe, is daylight. I think they're the same level. Yeah, but it would look like a Venn diagram, right? Deeper darkness and daylight? It would look like a Venn diagram. Like, if Sir Will cast it on his lance, it would only emanate 60 feet from there

and would cut into wherever it cut into the darkness. So it then would behoove you to try and get as close to the source as possible to reveal... Yes, you still have to hunt him down and find him. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. They're both third level. However, daylight specifically says it counters any darkness of magical darkness of equal or lower level yes i mean that's what light in real life light conquers darkness so it's true makes sense it's always two sides there are it's tricky it's it's real tricky you know

this time i'm playing a skids game where i'm like, I know that he is doing that rule differently than the way it's written in the book. So all I can do is be like, I don't think that's right. But then skids going to make the ruling and it's his game and you'll never hear me complain again. Now, I'm not asking you to not complain because I enjoy these discussions. And I think one of the things people used to enjoy about our show, at least, was that it feels like a real home game. And in moments like this, we would stop everything and we would talk about it. I don't think what we just did was complaining, though. No, no.

And that's what I'm trying to say. You're not complaining. I think the difference is, I think that you tend to have a more like lawful evil GMing style, whereas I'm more of a neutral, neutral good GMing style. I agree. So you position yourself as an antagonist more than i do so that you'll get more pushback for stuff like that than i will yeah no you're absolutely right you're absolutely right and uh yeah because also no one ever complains about the way you change

things i change stuff all the time yeah but i'm also like for the most part openly rooting for you guys to succeed right right in a way that troy doesn't and you still kill characters and yeah and i do yeah yeah no that's that's a really good point so i it's it's a weird it's a weird place to be in especially right now where metra is probably one hit away from death yeah i'm in a really uh sticky sticky situation and how many points of strength and dex damage did you take from that failed fortitude save for the wrenching spasms i didn't know i was wrenchingly spasming uh i have four and four four and four yeah i think it was a d6 each fortitude save was like dc 29 or

something because you rolled high but it was still impossibly high uh and if it is dc 29 i could have only succeeded on that 19 or 20 right or if you had like a re-roll thing you could do i can but not for 42 um and you're nauseated for hours oh man i don't know if uh yeah that's uh that's really bad yeah that's very bad uh how many points you got there mentor uh why do you ask well just think for the audience to know i have 66 66 and he's regularly doing 48 um he's got multiple attacks uh whatever this he or it is if you bring my strength to zero i die right that would be constitution you die strength i think you just go incapacitated or strength zero death

no it's just incapacity okay unconscious con zero is death um there are some effects is like if this blah blah i think it's like a undead ability if your strength gets to zero from this touch you die um i can't remember that's a revenant, maybe. Anyways, bad situation. You know that there is combat reflexes involved as well, so that you don't want to provoke. There's a lot going on in this darkness. You've already eliminated one enemy that was like an invisible type thing. Baron, you can see invisible? Yes, I can see invisible right now. I said to you guys before we started that this really could only be done this well on roll 20 because now you

can't even see yourselves on the map um it came up blocked the doorway you feel this hulking presence right next to you somebody just moved out of the darkness i know that was me i was just trying to zoom out and i didn't hit the button who did you move uh nester i can't even control anything uh yeah well i can't see it oh wait anybody i found him oh press command z see if he goes back i did it didn't work press again okay i know where he is um so yeah take a screenshot now in case we move something i know you cast a spell. You even you can't see. This is a problem.

I want to see through your eyes. I just screenshot it just in case. But yeah, you guys can't even see where you are. One thing we didn't talk about last time is I don't think it really came into play was that you're all flat footed as well from this thing. There's no real difference. You were hitting me every time. It's so bad. It's so bad and uh yeah i don't know i think we just gotta i think we just gotta play well you can definitely hear metra because she's going

this is awful continuously you know exactly where she is oh boy well here we go it was the last one to go and it's baron's turn jesus christ oh can i uh can I jump in here? Can I free action speak? You can speak. And actually, Nestor did delay. So Nestor could go at any time. But the reason he delayed was this exact situation.

You don't know what to do. You don't know if you're within reach of this thing. Probably are. And you can't attack something you can't feel. Metra could because it just hit her. Where is it in relation to me? Right towering over you. And me too.

Yeah, because Sir Will is 10 feet and just to the back, to the south of Metra, so you feel this hulking presence as well. So Sir Will is 10 feet away from Metra? You're 10 feet away from Metra, yeah. We're all gonna die. Okay. So I would just like to

free up. Once this darkness consumes us. Baron, I only remember where you are. You and Ness are behind. I was a little bit further behind. Right, you're back in the middle of the room. You know, I can actually because this darkness just came up so I could show you where you were. Okay. Just so you have a sense. Look at that little I could show you where you were. Okay. Just so you have a sense. Look at that little block.

That's where you were. Oh, wow. So Metra is right outside the door. And then 10 feet down and over is Sir Will. And then 10 feet behind Metra is Baron. And right behind Baron is Nestor. That's where you were before you were enveloped. Enveloped.

Okay. Five foot step. Well, yeah, I mean, basically we have to get out of here. So Will is going to call the retreat once the darkness comes over us, and he's just going to say, We must fall back! Metro, if you can get us out of here quickly, do it! Baron Nestor, either stay close or run!

Metro comrade that's what he's gonna say but you understand what she means i can make it so she can get us out of here but like i don't know if she can get in to touch range of you guys or how that's going to work so either you could just start running but either way i need you to get us out of you guys or how that's going to work. So either you could just start running, but either way, I need you to get us out of here. I can do that if you help me. What is the initiative order currently? I know it's been a week, several weeks for us as you have pulled back the curtain

at the beginning of the episode. Here's what you know. You know that Nestor is delaying, so he can act whenever. You know it's your turn, Baron. And after Nestor will be Sir Will, and then Metra, before whatever is in the darkness gets to go again. But don't forget there were also other enemies that were shooting fire at you. That all see through deeper darkness as well.

Yeah, and when I rolled a crit against Metra, you were like, uh, I can't remember what you did. You like negated the crit because you were, you said you were invisible or something and they could have seen you. So you got off scot-free. Ethereal plane?

Were you on the ethereal or were you invisible? I don't remember. Yeah, you ether-stepped. She did ether-step. Yeah, but this was before the ether-step. Anyways, I edited it.

All right. Uh, because of and you know based off of what i've heard about people trying to get away from this unseen enemy not knowing if it's a person a monster a demon uh it seems like it has reach all over the place and can like reach out to attack we're worried about combat reflexes so baron is going to take a swift action and cast Burst of Speed on himself. Take care of it, Sir Will. We will fall back and reset.

And that should allow him, that gives him an additional 20 feet. So he should have, and we're hasted, aren't we? Yeah. So that'll give him 60 feet of movement and a standard move, which should allow him to step backwards. If he steps into a wall, he'll use another couple feet to kind of find the opening and get out into this area. All right. So to go back into the previous hallway now, swift action won't provoke. Nope. And this spell itself makes it to where none of my movement after casting it will provoke. So I am clear to get out of this room. Okay. All right.

Well, that is huge because you were in range of provoking. Oh, my God. Now, the question is how much of my movement is half in darkness? Yes. You have to make an acrobatics check, right, to move faster than half speed. Faster than half speed. So I have 30 feet to get back. But you're fine.

Yeah, you're acrobatics is great. At this level, I think it's a DC 10 acrobatics yeah okay which you make with ease i think you've got probably acrobatics plus 20 yes you're fine uh so but just calculate the speed yeah so you make that you can move full speed yeah okay and how far back can you go uh 60 feet 60 feet all right so you are actually right in the doorway is as far as you can go. Okay. I will go ahead and move you. That's 60 feet. I want to... You can move anywhere in front of that, I will say,

but you can't move beyond the door from where you are standing. Okay. I want to cast a spell to... I already used my swift action. Dang it. Let's see what else I can get. Also, make sure you can definitely move 60 feet. Oh, because of haste yeah why don't you just double move yeah i'm gonna double move backwards i was just making sure i couldn't cast another more but i thought

you had already double moved i was like that's not that far but that's good no that's good so i'm through this uh smaller kind of doorway than what the door is what that i remember being double doors opening there yeah what was in this room originally? Was it empty? It's just like pews? Uh, benches? In that previous room? Oh no, this is where we fought the Cloud Giants. Yeah, when they battle on two fronts. Yes.

Alright, that is Baron's turn. He is ready. You can see him kind of, if he flips to a page ever to remind himself the healing spells of the Church of Torag, he is doing that now. Okay.

So Baron gets out of there, doesn't provoke. And it is someone else's turn. Did I, was I holding? You were holding, you can go. I want to go then. You know what I'd Was I holding? You were holding. You can go. I want to go then. Okay.

You know what I'd love to do? Where's Metra in relation to Nestor right now? Metra is about 15 feet in front of you. Okay. You saw her come right through the door, and then this thing came right afterwards, and it fell at you all in dark. Okay.

I was hoping we were next to each other, in which case I would have tried to grab her and pull her out with me. But Nestor is also going to double move and get out to where Baron is. Okay, so that's a full withdrawal, which won't provoke. Yeah. Okay, because Nestor, too, was in provoking range. Well, the first square that's provoked won't provoke, right? Or no, it's the same action.

Can't provoke twice. What was it? Correct. They would only provoke once. But where Nestor is. So if he did a full withdrawal in that first square, it's only the first square he can avoid. That's protected by. If the next square was still in range, he could take a swing.

Right. And Nestor is fine from where he is. Beautiful. He is able to get out without provoking. How many feet can you move? You can make the acrobatics. So how many feet? 60?

120 feet. Oh, 120. So you can go anywhere you want out where Baron is. Yeah, I'll run out. When I clear the darkness, I see Baron, and I'll just run up next to him. All right, so I'll put you... That's a supernatural speed. Right next to Baron, you've moved 75 feet.

So you can now see yourself and move anywhere else you like. Okay. Honestly, I think you could move further. Yeah. I mean, your bow has such range. Yeah. It's like, back us all up. Yeah.

The other thing you could do is close the door. I don't want to seal you in there, though. No, he can't when he's doing a full withdrawal. It's his entire action. That's true. So you moved next to Baron and then moved another 10 feet back. Yeah. And I should say burst of speed. But you could.

Oh, wait, no. I was right about the 20. I forgot that my chainmail is Mithril. So it counts as light armor. The burst of speed only gives a 10-foot bonus to people wearing medium armor, but because of the properties of Mithril, I received the full 20. Light as a feather. And hard, hard skills.

Oh, God. Yes! I receive the full 20. Light is a feather, and the heart is a dragon. Dragon skills. Oh, God. Yes! Troy is the worst, worst, worst. Was that John Ralphio? Yeah, John Ralphio. The worst. At that moment, in the darkness,

Metra feels little fire coming her way. Oh, Jesus. Ranged touch attack to hit. Jesus. All right. That is going to be

a 19 against touch. That hits my touch, but you have to consider the images. I do. Consider the image. Consider but you have to consider the images. I do. Consider the image. Consider, if you will, the image. This is my art history oratory, which I will give over the next two hours.

Well, this is a mistake I made last week, because this creature also has true seeing. So you don't have to consider the images? I don't. Well, I considered it, But I'd like to move on So it does hit there's nothing you can do To prevent it Not while I'm nauseated Yes

This concludes consider The image A scorching ray hits you For oh my god 12 points of fire damage Only one ray i have energy resistances as a kyle let me just find them you have to have fire don't you come on electricity don't know where it is so many things on your lab at high level play

i'll figure it's 12 it's 12 points it doesn't kill me 12 points of fire okay uh i'll figure it out It's 12 points It doesn't kill me 12 points of fire Okay I'll figure out What my resistances are Yeah I did something Last week And it was I think I crit you

With a spell And you were like Images I was like God And I forgot True scene I'm pretty sure

It burns away The nausea though You're clear Yeah I did Alright 12 points Of fire damage Sir Will A ranged touch attack now comes at you.

Damn it, just electricity and cold. Oh, no. Ooh, you're lucky I just hit this one at you, too. But let's get Sir Will a little burnt. 24 against touch. That hits. Ooh, boxcars on the first 2d6. Another boxcar and a 5.

So three 6s and a 5 That might have taken Metra out 23 points of damage 23 points of fire damage To Sir Will You felt something in the darkness fly past you And shoot a scorching Rays at each of you

Are they on the other side of you now? Thus provoking if you move? I don't know. Sir Will, you're up to end the round. Following Metra's gagging, he is going to take a five-foot step up to Metra. Diagonal or straight north? Whichever way he doesn't sense a creature.

Whichever way you would if you were tactically playing. Okay, so you just go straight up and not towards the creature. But you're now able to touch Metra. Able to touch Metra, and he's going to reach out and lay on hands. Metra. Okay, does that provoke? No. Can it?

You said no, and then you made a little thing. I did a little shrug, because I don't know. I don't think so. Does Lay on Hands provoke an attack of opportunity? Using Lay on Hands requires a successful melee attack. Oh, that's if you're using it to negative and doesn't provoke an attack. Laying Hands on another...

Yeah, it doesn't say in there that it... No, it does not provoke. Supernatural ability. So, 28 points of healing. That's very helpful and very good he is going to and through that comes a mercy that relieves you of the nauseated condition oh yes a mercy a

mercy nice high-level pally John use your lay on hands ability it also removes the nauseated condition. Excellent. So you should be good. A number of conditions, right? Right about time, Metra. Now's the time. I can feel this hulking beast in the dark.

Huge. You wouldn't have been able to cast a spell? No. All I could have done is take a single move action and provoke. Well, here we go. Are you done, Sir Will? I'm done. It is your turn, Metra.

Metra is going to grab Sir Will. I'll roll the cast defensively. I automatically get it. I'll roll anyway. Natty, 13. And we will Dimension Door ourselves. Yes! Just inside the room with Baron and Esther.

Just inside the door. Oh, man. Okay. And then Metra will reach out and close the door. Move. So you mentioned door just inside. And then you close the door. Okay.

Okay. And we didn't even talk about this ahead of time. This is like, but now they're gonna have to open the door to get to us. Yes. That helps. All right. It is now. someone else's turn oh god i hate all of them man okay i almost wish we had gone to the other room and closed those doors yeah i know the room that's clogged with the bodies of dead cloud giants.

Giant porcine monstrosity. Okay. Very interesting. Metro is significantly less dexterous than she usually is. Not significantly, but definitely less.

It is Baron's turn. Mitra, do you need healing or would you like your current physical body to be restored? Healing. Alright. I

have it, Sheriff. I'll take care of her. Stand back. Ready yourself for damage. I'll take care of her. Stand back. Ready yourself for damage. Yeah, that's a good point. Okay. Plug the hole whenever that door opens. See, that's the interesting thing. As I have a scroll that I don't think is meant to be used for this.

I want to have stone wall, but what I have are scrolls of stone shape. this i want to have stone wall but what i have are scrolls of stone shape stone shape is so vaguely worded about being able to recreate stone into like objects and things you want um what is it you can form any existing piece of stone into any shape that suits your purse a purpose possible to make crude coffers doors and so forth fine detail is impossible it's not on my spell list so it would be a big UMD thing, and then it really doesn't fit to do what I want to do, which is just to block off this door and give us time.

I mean, I have the liar building on me. That takes time to activate, though, I believe. You have to play it, and... Do we have 20 minutes? It's 30 minutes to do the work of 100 humans laboring for three days. So what can 100 humans do in 6 seconds

That's a good question What do you rule 100 humans can do In 6 seconds But they each get their own 6 seconds Right So what are you trying to do You're trying to block this door Yeah to give us some time to move on and escape

But if that's not the issue I can take a 5 foot step and swift action Call some time to like move on and escape but uh yeah if that's not the issue i mean i can take a five foot step and swift action call down a judgment and move on you can also like touch the ground and shape it so that like a big block comes up in front of the door you have a stone shape i we have scrolls of stone shape but it's not in my spell list and i don't have any points and use magic device so it would be just a huge gamble anyway it was just a cool thing i was talking out loud no it is a cool idea um i mean you have to deal with a 50 mischance but you could also just delay and if something opens that door you know something's right on the other side i can just unload i can five foot step and uh take a swift action and still ready in action right yeah but if you're ready in action you can only take one shot right but if you delay and wait till somebody opens the door and ends their turn you can then

take a your full five six shots whatever it is into the darkness and anybody that comes through is going to have to move to the door to open and then open the door and then be done right yeah i was gonna say because the one thing he couldn't do is interrupt that turn but yeah they would by definition have to end their turn by opening the door so you would know exactly so i can't even five foot step if i delay correct but you could five foot step after you yeah that's true okay but uh if you feel like this swift action is really important and you should do it then then do it i'm just giving you one other idea to think about i don't know what your swifty is that you're thinking of the judge it's judgment so i can

just pull down a greater degree of protection and damage out of me it's just buffing myself to get ready for that moment but you could also do that during my after i delay yeah all right so then i will delay and uh if it ticks around back to the next round and i haven't taken it um i'll just wait and see all right it is nester's turn. Nestor is... He's going to do the same thing. He's just going to delay. Okay. Sir Will.

By the power of Iomedae, Metra, we need you to stay in this fight. Hold off a little longer. This will feel like everything has healed, but I'm afraid it's merely an illusion. But it'll give you what you need to stay up right now. And he's gonna

cast this wild spell that I've never, haven't cast yet. And I've had sitting in my back pocket called Stalwart. It is a level four paladin spell. You bring a reeling, unconscious, exhausted or sorely wounded creature back to full

Hit points Fresh vigor and inspired courage You lose every condition under the sun You lose all ability damage And you are at full hit points What is this? Stalwart Wait, so the strength and the dex is healed as well?

It's all temporary, it's all for 15 rounds Wow, amazing Oh man, steal yourself Stalwart The dex is healed as well? It's all temporary. It's all for 15 rounds. Wow. Amazing. Oh, man. Steal yourself. So I'm in stalwart. Full hit points. No conditions. But keep track of where you're currently are.

But you have to write down, literally write on a piece of paper what your damage was. We'll see. Test the limits of Hero Lab and just add stalwart on there. Yes. See what happens. Could you imagine? That would be amazing. It takes a picture of your character at that moment.

Spell adjustments. I want to call the lady or the guy that developed that part of the app. No, I can't do it. Call them personally. We just want to thank you personally. That was really well done. So just make a note of your current ability damage and your current hit points, because when the spell ends, no matter what happens to you in the interim, ability damage, and your current hit points, because when the spell ends, no matter what happens

to you in the interim, when the spell ends, you return to one hit point higher than the hit points you have right now. And all your ability damage comes back. Alright, I'm currently at 82 hit points and minus four dex and minus four strength, but I'm going to take all that away and heal myself to full.

That's a cool spell. That's a great boss fight spell. Yeah. I mean, I thought it was amazing. It's almost like the good guy version of Orc Ferocity. Yeah. I've just had it sitting here the whole time just in the event of... Stall. Just because everything I have built here is for support.

You know what I mean? So these function essentially like temporary hit points from a rage, which is interesting. They drop off after 15 rounds. But without the negative consequences of like wow you being worse off when it ends like when it ends you go back to what you were when it started and i like that reward in terms of game lore of one being the source of like rage inside of a person the other being divine favor great Well, good round for Sir Will.

That was just a stand. Stand down, Ian. Oh, geez. Let me just see. Yeah, it is one action. So that is just a standard. Yeah, you know what? He is going to go back next to Baron and Sir Will just to position himself about 25 feet from the door. And his plan when it opens

or when the darkness starts to consume us is to charge right in there. I will also use this moment before the door opens if it does again to remind everyone to take a quick peek at their magic items area in case they have something they've forgotten about. I've been searching through my little document.

I keep things on this whole time to see if I had anything. I don't think I do. Sorry, I don't go next to Baron because I remember he said he wanted to take that five-foot step. So I'm just going one step ahead in front of Baron. All right, it comes back around to Metra. You guys are in this room that was just outside of the room that preceded the dark room. Apparently I have a scroll of break enchantment. There you go.

Ah. Ah. The rainy day scroll. Can I use that on the deeper darkness? I don't believe so. I believe a break enchantment I think is for an enchantment. Yep.

Break enchantment can reverse... Spell freeze victims from enchantments, transmutations, and curses. Okay, so yeah, the Deeper Darkness is a non-particular creature. Good to have, though. It's a fifth-level jaunt. Yeah, it's a great spell. It's huge to have.

Just looking... I'm taking Grant's advice, which was good advice, to look through her stuff. Let's see what that does. Oh, I have a Grant's advice, which was good advice, to look through her stuff. Let's see what that does. Oh, I have a Rod of Wonder, which could... Oh, right, random rolls. Random rolls.

You know what, Metro? Yeah, I don't think I have anything that's going to help us in this situation besides dispel magic. Come for Troy on the boards. So instead, I shall... I can take it. ...cast Particulate form on all of us. Oh, hell yes. Awesome. So we

are now immune to bleed, critical hits, sneak attacks, and other forms of precision damage. And we all get fast healing one. Nope. We get fast healing two, because I'm more than 15th level. And at any time, as a swift action, you can dismiss it on yourself to regain 5d6 hit points.

And at that point, you get an additional saving throw against any one disease or poison affecting the original spell. That's a great spell. That's such a phenomenal spell. Is this under spell adjustments? Dang. I think you just gotta, like, remember it. Try it, though. You never know.

Try it. Star Wars is not on there. And then Metra is going to move uh let's just make sure I got a direct line and actually before Metro finishes I'm gonna retcon

just that I am gonna take a swift action to lay on hands myself okay I need to get hit by... That fire, man. That 23 points of fire. Okay. Yep, Metro is going to stand right next to Nestor. Okay.

Do I want to do one more thing? Can I do one more thing? I think we have fast healing three, by the way. You have fast healing three at this point? We're only 16th level. Exactly. It increases by one at 10th and 15th level, so it was one of your base.

So 10. Nice. Do you have the actions available? I have a quick and meta magic rod, but I'm not going to use it right now. All right. Everybody roll a perception check. Oh, boy. 26.

Six. 41. He's just staring at the door and not thinking about anything else 43 Sir Will is trying to calm Lexington And staring at the door The other three of you Have heard nothing In the last six seconds

There seems to be no pursuit Into this room So you've got some options here run and get away or try to use this opportunity to get back in the fight with the knowledge that you now have um with the knowledge you know how can we cast cast Dispel Magic as the rules say we can? You're really poking the beer today. So if you want to take three rounds, here's what I'll say. I'll say that the door needs to be opened by that third round for you to target it.

So I'm going to use Detect Magic detect magic for three rounds what you're saying right but here's the thing also then you're going to think about how far is detect detect 60 feet yeah so you've moved beyond that so you're going to have to enter that room and then that leaves yourself vulnerable but yeah i would i would definitely uh allow it um you just got to get within 60 feet so for example free detect magic right, you don't detect any magic. Here's what I'm going to do. Can I roll a knowledge check on true seeing? Yes. Arcana?

Yeah. Or spellcraft? I don't know which one. Either one. Spellcraft, actually. It's a spell. Okay, 25. How are they crafted? 25. Okay. What are you interested in knowing? I want to know if they can hit me if I'm incorporeal. Incorporeal. Subject can see through normal and magical darkness,

notice hidden doors, knows the exact locations of creatures under blur or displacement effects, sees invisible creatures and objects normally, sees through illusions, sees the true form of polymorphed, changed, or transmuted things. Further, the subject can focus its vision to see into the ethereal plane, but not into extra-dimensional spaces.

What was your question? No, it's only about seeing. It doesn't let it hit anything. It just lets it see what's actually there. All these things can deal magical damage, so I would still take 50%. They're hit me and i'm gonna take 50 damage but i could get in there as a non-corporeal thing focus for three rounds and then try to dispel the magic but it's not a guarantee that's the thing i mean sir will sorry go ahead well no it's a long

time to be standing in there concentrating when they can hit you oh even at half damage even at half damage yeah um but sir will is happy to go in and and uh be a bulwark here um take some damage oh man imagine open the door let's do this rush into the darkness again yeah i mean he doesn't his lance is down he's got this sword out it's glowing i mean he's he is ready to he he the source of his wanting to retreat is metra's nausea and uh the fact that we were surprised and thrown off but now that we know what we're in for uh he thinks we're armed and ready especially with particular form right now to take out this evil he doesn't want to let this evil by i will will say it is, it would be Baron's turn next, depending on what you do.

How long does a particular form last? Is it rounds or minutes? I believe it's rounds. Okay. Probably like 16 rounds. One round per level. So, you know, you've got enough time to get in there. My healing only lasts 15 rounds either, so if we're going to

fight, we've got to fight, we gotta fight now. Do it. Do it now. I mean, I'm trying to look at area of effect spells as another option, too. So I have this wand of obsidian flow. That's an area of effect. Presumably they're all on the ground. They can become

entangled, which would help us. I say they're all on the ground they can become entangled uh which would help us uh i say you just fire off that one rod of wonder and see what happens i mean i also i was really hoping someone would open the door because i do have a wand of lightning bolt loaded in my spring sheath i could just fire and just hit anything in a line yeah i wish you had cloud kill and we just open that door yeah that's it and just let them choke on it choke choke democracy dies in darkness as well as whatever's in there i mean the other thing i could do is cast reverse gravity on the area in front of the door so that no one can come through it and we can you know we can try to shoot out shoot at them even if they have to even if they go up to the ceiling.

It's so hard when you can't even see anything. Yeah. I have Wall of Stone, too, by the way. Oh. Well, but they're not pursuing, so. Not pursuing. Old Stonewall Metro. That's what they call it.

What do you want to do? Well I think Nestor is Nestor's pissed off He hates being chased, he hates being bested He also loves a challenge So he He says I'd like to get back in there Like if you're feeling up to it

I'd like to see what these things look like when they're not breathing. So I like Will's plan. Also, deeper darkness eventually will expire. Oh no, it's 10 minutes per level. That's never gonna be an option. Alright, I'm gonna...

Why don't we open the door and I can do an obsidian i can do an obsidian flow at the far end of the uh where we like where we left them essentially or in the center of the room it's a 20 foot radius 20 foot radius that's gives that's a chance of them becoming entangled but then we just have to stay out of that you guys have to stay out of that which limits what will can do. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Entangled is useless.

I mean, unless we're, like, fleeing from this thing. Because it just reduces their speed by half. Oh, right, and they can still move. Yeah, they can move half speed, and their speed's going to be easy to catch up with us. The best thing... I mean, I guess it gives them, like like a minus two to dex or something. I don't know. You're incapable of summoning creatures, right? Unless I

use the Rod of Wonder. Right. Well, what would be great is to summon a creature at this high of a level that could cast daylight or see through this darkness and have true seeing on it, which is possible with certain Archons and other things, but we don't have that available to us. Some high-level angel that can't daylight. Yeah, that's not what I can do.

I could possibly summon a Rhino. A Rhino, Elephant, or Mouse. You roll, and if you get that, then you roll again to see which one you get. But it could also be... Oh, God. There's a lot of stuff that could happen that is not great.

Let's just get fucking 50 butterflies into the mix. Spice this encounter up. Yeah. The belt of fallen heroes we got from Taiga could summon a hero that could potentially have daylight on it. And then we have that meteorite chunk, the chunk of black diamond with strong transmutation energy. That's strange, maybe that's reacting i don't know i'm trying to look because normally like there's something given to you yeah you've got to find a way to have metra get close enough and last three rounds that's not going to happen so i think we're i think it's possible. I think Sir Will can tank for three rounds.

But they can hit from range. There's at least two creatures in there. Yeah, I mean, if you need to break it at any time, you can break it. But I think you should start by casting Detect Magic. Can we do Protection from Energy? Do I have that? Oh, yeah. Protection from Energy Fire would

be huge. I have Protection from Energy Communal. I could do that. Oh, that would be huge. That would be huge. That have protection from energy communal. I could do that. Yes. Oh, that would be huge. That would be huge. That would negate the fire damage that's being done to you. All right, I'll cast... So whatever we decide to do, I'll cast that. Then I'll go in corporeal, and then I'll move into the room. Keep this in mind.

Well, hold on a second. That's two standard actions. We're in rounds here, so let's do our rounds. I'm outlining a plan. Okay. So your plan takes two round is protection from energy communal we all get we'll all get protection from energy fire okay let's just walk through the rounds in case there's any other buffs people want to do so it would be baron's turn

uh baron getting ready for this will call down another judgment on himself and I'll let you know what judgments those are as soon as my character sheet loads up. He also might cast a spell in the meantime. Would it be helpful? Well, it's 15 rounds, so you don't need any healing right now. I'll tell you what that spell is as well when my character

sheet loads. In fact, I'll tell you right now. I forgot that i have more heroes than 16 because i was duplicating the horse we had for a long time along with baron so it counts that as a hero of my portfolio and it takes forever to load uh so baron will call down uh uh sacred destruction and sacred resiliency DR1 magic no sacred resistance

fire and the protection those are the two best ones and then he will cast is there any benefit to having magic weapon greater cast on any of our ammunition

I don't think so channel vigor is useless to me this is thrilling radio what's going on here I'm going to cast lend judgment on myself to give Sir Will an extra boost he gets to choose between a bonus to his AC or bonus to destruction. What's the bonus to AC?

Plus two. And the type is, I believe, Sacred Dawn. Sacred. I will tell you precisely. Sacred Protection. Yes, Sacred Profane Bonus to Armor Class. That'll add. That'll add.

That'll do. That'll do, pig. Nice. That profane bonus to armor class. That'll add. That'll add. So that'll do. That'll do, pig. Nice. That's round one. Nestor. Nestor. Yeah. There's not a whole lot he can do.

He's just going to sit around being antsy. Antsy. Yeah. It's got to be real nerve wracking. Sir Will. Nestor, I see that you are antsy. Fear not. Antsy.

It is time we take this battle to these creatures. In Iomedae's name. And he's going to cast Good Hope on everybody. All right. So this spell instills everyone with powerful hope, and everybody gets a plus two morale bonus on saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. Awesome.

Huge. So every one of those hits that gets through checks, and weapon damage rolls. Awesome! Huge. Every one of those hits that gets through, two more points of damage. There it is. Chip away. Beautiful. Remember the damage part, but add the actual spell to your hero lab

just in case you have another morale bonus right now to your saves. Yeah. All right. Comes back around, and now you have 14 rounds of particulate form left. It is Metro's turn. Protection from energy, communal, fire. And that gives everybody how many? 120.

120. Great. That'll buy, you know, if those things are doing 20 rounds, that's six rounds of avoiding fire damage. I hate this. This is terrible. Baron. Do you hear how excited he is?

Yeah. Do we think that... If you think we're not resting immediately after this combat, then you can think again. Do you think that this... Is your weapon slashing by any chance? No, it's piercing as a lance. The lance is on the ground in the other room, man.

The highbury lance. So you have a slashing weapon, right? Yes. He has rose lights. Rose lights! Raised high in the air, Sheriff! Do you think that the creatures you could face could fall under the category

of living in that room? Sheriff, I've seen nothing. All I know is they emanate evil. Well, I think it's as good a time as any for a stab in the dark if you follow my drift. Booge! Brow Gasher

is cast on your weapon. When that target weapon hits a living creature, in addition to the normal effects of the hit, the wielder can discharge this spell as a free action to open a gash on the target's forehead that deals bleed damage equal to half of my caster level. So that'll be five bleed, or four bleed.

Okay. At the start of each turn, when it takes bleed damage, it also takes a cumulative minus one penalty on all attack rolls. But we'll get to that bridge when we get to it. You have an empowered sword right now. Comes back to Nestor, still antsy. Antsy. I'm feeling a bit Sid and Nancy, as they say.

Sir Will, what do you got? Anything else? He moves to the door. Are we ready? Just about. Fancy, as they say. Sir Will, what do you got? Anything else? He moves to the door. Are we ready? Just about. Comes back to it. Lexington. Easy, boy.

Comes back to Metro. Now 13 rounds of particular form left. What do you do? Standard action. Enact the spectral shroud, and I go incorporeal. And I have a fly speed with perfect maneuverability. Fly speed with perfect maneuverability. I'm a g-g-g-ghost!

A g-g-g-g-ghost! That's the other thing about detect magic. It's not a full round action. You don't have to stay still. You can move to different safe locations and just keep the casting going as a stand-only. Metra will move. She'll fly up into the wall. Into the wall to the north?

Whoa. Oh, that's very tricky. That is cool as hell. In the wall. Hang out in the wall. It gives you cover, by the way. I'm literally in the wall. Hang out in the wall. It gives you cover, by the way. I'm literally in the wall. They can't hit me.

No, they can't hit you, but if you come out to do something, you get cover. Can true seeing see through walls? No, because it says specifically it's not x-ray vision. You can't see through solid objects, it says. There's a little line in the text. Wow. She goes, go. You know those old

Looney Tunes where the characters are underneath the wallpaper and they just kind of, that's basically Metronaut. You could do like, oh, this is amazing! Yes, it's really cool. You know, if I can get up into the wall, the northern wall of that room, because I have 60 feet of movement on that fly, so I can fly in the wall.

Along the perimeter of the wall? Oh, yeah. All right, so you want to get into the north. Oh, that's really interesting. So you're going to go... I don't know where the wall is, but roughly where I'm pinging on the map. Yeah.

Okay, so you're going to fly up and you're going to fly across that open doorway. Remember, there is an open doorway there. I'm traveling within the walls. No, but there's an open doorway you're going to go through. Between the walls. Do you want to stop before you get to the doorway? Can you show me what the room looks like?

Yeah, I can absolutely show you. Poke your head up into the upper floor. So look where those two dead giants are. You can either stop before you get to that open doorway to pass through, or you can just take the long way around. I'll stop before the open doorway to pass through. Or you could just, like, take the long way around. I'll stop. I'll stop before the open doorway. Okay.

All right, so Metra flies through the perimeter of the interior of this place. She's just, like, sideways in the walls. This is why we would be so terrifying to fight against. Really? I wouldn't want to do it. It's like fighting against an entire haunted house. It now comes to Baron's turn. Baron, are you leading the charge?

Baron is going to give Nestor also a lending of his judgment. You can choose between adding four to your weapon damage or two to your AC. Damage. I'll take the damage if you don't mind. And Baron will step up closer to the doorway and say, Will, do you need me to lead us off? I can't

really open the door after doing that, though, so I'm really just stepping into position behind you. You can't? Lend Judgment's the standard? Yeah. Okay. No. Stand behind me, Sheriff. I've got it. Now goes to Nestor. Nestor is going to move up, feeling unseized he is,

and get right behind Sir Will, waiting for him to breach the door. Waiting for him to breach the door. Many shot, two arrows knocked, ready to fire. Yep. Now goes to Sir Will. I hope they're not too close.

Sir Will turns one last look at Baron and Nestor and then just turns and pushes the door open. Sword raised high. What is this going to be? Bad. Amazing. Oh shit. They're right there. They're all right there.

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