The Glass Cannon Podcast - Giantslayer Episode 304 - Lancer in the Dark

Episode Date: November 23, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Last week on the Glass Cannon Podcast. It's a weird place to be in, especially right now, where Metra is probably one hit away from death. Yeah, I'm in a really sticky situation. The heroes sounded the retreat. We must fall back! Metra, if you can get us out of here quickly, do it! Baron Nestor, either stay close or run! And managed to wrest themselves from the jaws of death. Metra is going to grab Sir Will, and we will dimension door ourselves. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:00:29 Just inside the room with Baron and Nestor, just inside the door. Oh, man. Okay. And then Metra will reach out and close the door. Only to regroup. Sir Will turns one last look at Baron and Nestor, and then just turns and pushes the door open. Sword raised high. And plunge into the darkness once more.
Starting point is 00:00:48 This is going to be bad. Amazing. Ah, shit. The adventure continues. They're right there. They're all right there. Why didn't you guys stay back? Now. What's going on, Naysha?
Starting point is 00:01:24 It's your old buddy Troy, back with another quick intro before today's hot new ep. I just want to let everybody know that we're running a huge Black Friday sale again this year, and it's not only on our merch, it's on our Patreon subscriptions as well. So, if you've thought about subscribing to our Patreon and for some crazy reason haven't got around to it yet, haven't pulled the trigger, or if you're currently a monthly subscriber and want to save a few bucks heading into next year, now is the best time for you to join this annual club. This Friday and continuing all weekend, all the way through Cyber Monday, anyone that signs up for an annual subscription will get a 5% discount. I just finished our content calendar for 2022 after months of working on it. Let me tell you, this is the content calendar I have always wanted to create. And if you aren't subscribed to the Patreon, you're going to want
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Starting point is 00:03:20 where all of our apparel and accessories are up to 50% off all weekend long. We're just giving it away. And in the meantime, I'm going to give away an episode. Here is episode 304. Hear that sleigh? Jesus Christ. Santa's on his way.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He's in parade for Christmas vacation. Adieu. You are parody of yourself. I'm just me. We successfully deflected that shit last week. I know. I was really impressed. And we didn't even talk about it again.
Starting point is 00:03:56 It was just, I never got brought up again, which was wonderful. You understand. I don't think all of you out there understand how hard it is. Troy baits me constantly. Yeah. Joe, you also bait me constantly. And it is very,
Starting point is 00:04:09 very hard to be, to remain, to leave that bait on the trap, even when you know it's a trap. And I was really impressed with how we did that. I was impressed with us too. Get it. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:18 All you want. I'm going to do it every week. Different song every week. Maybe mid combat. Let's just love it It's just great Best time of the year Can't beat it
Starting point is 00:04:34 But How's everybody doing? We have a weird start to today Sometimes we We jump right in and record And call it a day Other days we meander and record and call it a day. Other days we meander and talk, and then it's like, ah, we really got to record.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And then sometimes it's like, ah, you know, why don't we do lunch, and then we'll record. So we did lunch, and while we were waiting for the sushi, I whipped up a bunch of Bloody Marys. Pint glass Bloody Marys, because one of our amazing listeners sent us a pretty sweet haul of vodka from Detroit and McClure's pickles and McClure's Bloody Mary's, which is, oddly enough, from Brooklyn, and ice from our freezer. He didn't send that. But who sent this? The Great Cavoon. The Great Cavoon. The Great Cavoon? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Don't forget. Don't bury the lead of all the Faygo that he sent as well. Oh, that's right. I got it. Which informed me was a insane cloud and posse drink. Yeah, it's a very, very Detroit thing. And yeah, they will traditionally spray it on their fans at concerts. I have a Diet Orange Faygo in the fridge right now with my name on it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I am so excited. You better watch your back, Berger. Did you take it out of the freezer? Because I saw it in the fridge right now with my name on it. I am so excited. Did you take it out of the freezer? Because I saw it in the freezer when I grabbed the ice for this drink. I did. So, yeah, we're all a little loopy here, I think, after a pound and a half of fish and a pint glass of bloody, unless you're still nursing yours. That bloody was.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I mean, it is. I'm still nursing mine. It is. I just took my first sip. I mean, it is. I'm still nursing my hand. It is fantastic. I just took my first sip. And it's so delicious. Fabulous. One of the best Bloody Marys I've ever had in my life.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's pretty good. I've had this before. My wife got me the McClory's mix a while ago. And we just polished the whole thing off in one sitting, which was nice. Made Grant a sweet virgin one. Put those pickles in there, the spicy pickles with the pickle juice. Can't beat it! i'm sweating profusely and it brings back the feelings of the old times bloodies were a routine part of our campaign it's true in the yeah in the before time the way before time the way weekends getting together because we would always play during the day like in the
Starting point is 00:06:42 morning late morning we'd start yeah i still am absolutely amazed by the extent to which i think it's matthew and joe i believe after seeing him eat a deep dish jalapeno pizza the extent to which like a little bit of spice will make y'all sweat just amazes me it doesn't even it's you know what it's not even the reaction it's the it's the vinegar it's oh and those that jaleno pizza, those are pickled jalapenos, so probably that's why. I mean, spiciness, well, like, when I ate meat, when I would get wings, like, I would eat one and be instantly flop sweating. Wow. So, it's just a combination.
Starting point is 00:07:15 All of that, the spiciness and the beautiful acid of that vinegar is just going to set me off. Huh. You're disgusting. You know who would love that pickle vinegar nick lowe oh man nick just imagine drinking it down right now just a big right nick just drink a whole big glass of brine wouldn't you don't trust a man that doesn't like pickles no one i don't trust nick lowe right no one hates anything as much as nick lowe hates pickles
Starting point is 00:07:44 so weird and i remember like when he was in his early days like as an assistant editor they'd That's why I don't trust Nick Lowe. Right? No one hates anything as much as Nick Lowe hates pickles. So weird. And I remember, like, when he was in his early days, like, as an assistant editor, they'd all go out to lunch and stuff, and the other editors would, like, take their pickles off their burgers, and they would, like, slip them into his pockets, like, when he wasn't looking. Just for the reaction. It's like laying a cucumber behind a cat. Just, like, freak out.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, I mean, because his reaction, he's not like he's not like oh no i just i don't like pickles i'm not a fan of pickles like if the server at a restaurant walks up with his burger and there's a pickle on the side of the plate he'll be like i'm so i'm sorry i'm sorry you please take that away And bring a new plate The burger's fine You just put it on a different plate But I can't eat off that plate anymore Do you remember Deuce Staley? Yes
Starting point is 00:08:36 I remember Deuce Pickle Juice Of course Deuce Staley's in Detroit The 2000 Pickle Juice game Eagles against Cowboys Where it was 105 degrees Yes And all the Dallas Cowboys Were like passed 105 degrees and yes and all the dallas
Starting point is 00:08:45 cowboys were like passed out on the sidelines and the the rumor that got started is andy reed gave everyone on the eagles pickle juice that's what kept them running all over us yeah 200 yards rushing that day for deuce 200 yards and then uh they they turned their nose or whatever turned their turned away from him for the head coaching position, which I think was a huge mistake. And he went, bringing it all back around, to the Detroit Lions, where he is now coaching. And our coach sucks. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Good call, guys. I was just watching a YouTube video of the 10 worst weather games in NFL history, and that one was on there. And they talked about the pickle juice thing. One of the few hot ones? The pickle juice game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's weird what you're collecting from a conscious remembrance
Starting point is 00:09:25 because I remember that Fox NFL Sunday, them talking about Deuce Daly the week after drinking pickle juice. And running 200-some yards, yeah. I mean, Nick Lowe has always run roughshod over me when I attempted to tackle him, so it makes sense. Yeah, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Anybody couldn't like pickles. But we're talking about Christmas pickles Bloodies, fish Fish Fish and bloodies We need to have a Christmas party in here for real Because another great member of the niche Lonnie J. Latimer
Starting point is 00:09:57 Lonnie J. sent us What do you think? 200 craft beers? 200 cans of craft beer We have so much beer and this is great don't ever smell oh you know what they have enough there's no such thing we have beer left over from skidding my fantasy draft that was back in uh august yes uh and now it's just accumulated from other beer that people have sent and jay latimer sent over 200 bottles of craft beer and like good beer not like cases no real bunch of like assorted really good beers and he is a believe a medical doctor so i think it's technically a prescription it's a recommendation that's how i
Starting point is 00:10:36 looked at it lonnie jay recommended me this is what a solid dude lonnie jay is he heard my mom was having trouble with the knees recommended a surgery surgery place in Dallas for her to get it done. Turns out she was already going there. Lonnie J knows what he's talking about. Knows what's up. Beer to orthopedic surgeons. He had a couple of sour pickle IPAs and jumped right in to that surgery. Oh, yeah, that surgery center, they do all their work with pickle juice.
Starting point is 00:11:02 He did send a couple of sours that were sour pickle ip maybe not ipas but like sour beers that were sour pickle beers and i've only seen advertised i'm like i'll never get those we got a bunch of them you got a bunch it really astounds me how generous some of our listeners are yeah the way you put one of that is yeah yeah that was really what are you doing the way you enunciated that. That wasn't me being careful. That was me having taken the last swig of my bloody man. That was like... I'm a little...
Starting point is 00:11:31 Some of our... How does the passive aggressiveness of let my mom pulls off. The rest of you need to step up your game is what he's saying. No, that was me being legitimately grateful and also legitimately a little bit drunk. Little tip.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh, this is going to be a good effort. Then we get Matthew a little tuned up. It's been a long time since we've had slightly tuned up Matthew. That's true. Here we are. It's turnt up, please. Turnt. Turnt.
Starting point is 00:11:58 T-U-R-N-T. You know what is a gift I really appreciate? And for the life of me, I feel like a total asshole because I cannot remember where I got them from. But somebody once gave me two D6s, but they're D12s, like the 12-sided dice. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's fun. And they are my favorite D6s and I cannot find any more anywhere. Oh, son of a gun.
Starting point is 00:12:19 They would have made cute earrings, too. Another passive-aggressive move. Send me D12s. When I heard D6s, I just said thank you. Some forgettable person sent Another passive-aggressive move. Yep. Send me D12s and D6s. Some forgettable person sent me something really cool that I lost. Yeah. I still have them. I love him.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Oh. I'd like some, too. That does sound good. How come they don't have a D4 that's just a D8 with four? They have D4s that are D12s. I bought some at Gen Con. See, that sounds fun, too. I was looking for the D6s, but I couldn't find them secretly gave matthew the most vodka so he'd have the most fun
Starting point is 00:12:49 yeah baby well i mean we couldn't have picked a better episode for this because this has the potential to be a real humdinger barn burner and what's nice is whether you agree with the rules decisions, whether you disagree. Oh, no. He's already slurring. We all know the stakes. We all know the score. So, we all know what the rules as decided are.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So, now you get to play in that sandbox. And, oh, baby, this could be a real one. I don't know what's going to happen. Someone might die. I might die. Okay. All right. That took a turn.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Let's just pick it up where we left off. I want to jump right in with Sir Will opening the door. Now, I didn't write this down. I wish I had. Baron and Nestor, you didn't delay, right? You moved or or you just moved but you didn't take your standard yeah we did not delay uh and my rules for this game is that i'm gonna lie about what i did so uh that's just the rules we're playing under right now troy so just get used to it so no i'm ready to fire full round there you go how dare you uh see unfortunately it doesn't work both ways oh Oh, got it. But Sir Will did open the door.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And I'm going to reveal and show you what you see. Meanwhile, Metra is inside of a wall in Corporeal. You see a little bit of the room. And if you remember, we were also all made up
Starting point is 00:14:22 of countless particles that are separating and reconnecting to remain whole. How could I forget? So about 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 feet into the room, you can see. And then that inky blackness stands there. Sir Will, you have a standard. Oh, man. Sir Will, you have a standard Oh man Oh man
Starting point is 00:14:53 Okay Let me ask you what you thought was going to be behind the door Because now you seem stymied by something you've had a week to think about Um No, I'm not stymied by something you've had a week to think about. No, I'm not stymied. I'm just, yeah, I thought that they were going to be right behind the door. But then I realized they couldn't be because the deeper darkness would have been on us before we opened the door.
Starting point is 00:15:16 That's what I realized. If that's what happened, we don't know if they did something to extend the effect of it or if the source was moving. Yeah, I feel like the source was moving, but whatever. That's just supposition um no what i what i just got caught up on there was a i could just charge into the darkness i have the movement uh to get all the way in there uh but like i i don't think you can do that if you don't even know where the charge ends you know where the the attack would occur that'd be good uh run into the darkness well that's what I want to do. Sir Will gets enveloped and that's the last you see him. Yeah. Ever. He's so brave.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But you know, I think similarly he's going to do that. And then I was thinking I would do total defense, but then I realized that is a standard. So I can't do that. So he opens the door as a move action. As a second move action, he's just going to call out into the darkness
Starting point is 00:16:06 As he slowly Like trotting toward it When they didn't reveal themselves immediately And out to the side now lowered down a little bit As this glowing gleaming sword And he just sort of trots out in there Under his breath he says I will fear no darkness
Starting point is 00:16:22 I am a day will guide my way, will guide my hand. He's going to keep moving closer to this wall of complete darkness and then just summon them out. Come for me, demon! I will send you home to the abyss! He stands there waiting. My God. All right, so you go right up to the edge of the darkness? Right up to the edge of the darkness.
Starting point is 00:16:43 All right, so you move 35, 40 feet into the room, right up to the edge where it all disappears. Oh, God. So Baron and Nestor, you've taken your move, right? But you haven't taken a standard, I think, for this lesson? I took a standard to cast Lend Judgment on Nestor so he could have that plus four damage. Yeah, we're just in regular initiative. You're just regular initiative. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Well, it now goes back to the top of the new round, which means you are now down to 12 rounds of particulate form. Particulate form. According to my nuts. Your nuts? My nuts. That also would mean 11 rounds of stalwart. One round less?
Starting point is 00:17:25 Mm-hmm. Oh, that's right. If you're tracking one, you should track both. You know what? You're right. You're right. You're right. That also means nine rounds of incorporeality.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Nine. Oh, man. I like this. This is a fun little offset tracker. I need an assistant. All right. 12, 11, 9. It is Metra's turn.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Metra is in a wall. She stopped right where that gap was, where a doorway once stood, where you and your friends materialized only to find a cloud giant waiting to attack. Metra will move action, slide across the open doorway and into the other wall. Oh, slides across into the open john.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Okay. And then I will detect magic. First round of three that you promised me. Yes. This is the thing. This is such a clever gambit by Matthew slash Metra. We could have just stayed outside the room and waited for her
Starting point is 00:18:22 to pass invulnerable through walls, find the source of this thing, and there's nothing saying that she can't cast a spell magic on it from the wall, too. It's true. It's true. This is brilliant. I wish I had thought of it before we started
Starting point is 00:18:38 the plan, to be honest with you. I mean, considering from a sweaty, drunken man, this is the best thing I've ever seen, I think. Yeah, once you're in corporeal, all you have to do is stay adjacent to a space that you can move into. You can't finish your round deep within a wall. You have to stay adjacent. And then if you want to do any sort of spell, you do have to peek out to do that, which leaves you vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:19:00 To be fair. But to detect magic, you don't have to. Offensive spells, you would have to. This plan was hatched by a less sweaty sober man. So we'll see how it plays out now. That's true. I'm just going to focus in a 60-foot cone and see if I find the source of this plan. If memory serves, the sober man was afraid to cross the open doorway.
Starting point is 00:19:19 The drunk man is like, first thing I'm doing is going to cross that open doorway. This is a sweaty, drunken man executing the plan of a dry, sober man from only a few minutes ago. I was also sweaty when I hatched the plan. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It is pretty hot. I'll give it that. The record will take it into account. You do not detect any magic. which means the source has retreated into the room almost like if you walked in to fight a video game character and then walked away the video game character just moves back well why is the darkness as far as it ever was? That's a great question, John. 20-foot radius. Is that?
Starting point is 00:20:07 No, it's a 60-foot radius. Oh, it is? Yeah, deeper darkness is a 60-foot radius. Okay. So from where I am, so, and from where I am, I don't detect it. No. Now, here's what I'll do. If I had moved an extra square or two.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Well, here's what I'll tell you. Sober Matthew would have known that it's 60 feet So if you want to move The full complement of your movement and detect I will let you know if you detect it or not Alright I will stay Still staying within the wall I was thinking a 20 foot radius
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah you would have to be in the darkness If it's a 60 foot radius You would know you would have to be in the darkness to cast it Or to get any So I will move yeah I can be in the darkness to cast it or to get any. So I will move. Yeah, I can stay in the wall, move further in, and then I will do my detect magic round one. Okay. You're still outside of the darkness.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Am I? Mm-hmm. Well, there's this weird bit of room that's exposed here. That's a secret door that was opened up. You could zip across that to the other side. Okay. I'll go ahead. I've lost control of my pawn.
Starting point is 00:21:04 There we go. Yes, I will zip across that. Stay the other side. Okay. I'll go ahead. I've lost control of my phone. There we go. Yes, I will zip across that. Stay within the wall. Okay. And now you detect magic, and you do indeed detect the presence of magic within 60 feet. Okay. Okay. Round one.
Starting point is 00:21:21 In a box. Round one. Let's dance. Sir Will, you're standing there. I'm just standing there like shaking. You just see the darkness start to overwhelm Sir Will. Oh, no. Swallowed that glowing sword.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Swallowed that glowing sword, swallowed by darkness. And in the darkness, you feel that presence come towards you. This faded, faded, very faded flickering light of his holy sword is on the side of his face, but it offers no actual illumination. The darkness begins to creep out into the room where Nestor and his good buddy Baron are. And Sir Will feels one big smack come his way. Jeez. God.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Oh, boy. Critical threat Natty19 He's immune to crits Immune to crits That's right Alright so Just to confirm
Starting point is 00:22:31 A Natty19 in the confirm Critical threat Would have been a confirmed crit It wasn't a Nat20 So it won't be Exploding or anything like that Exploding Johns But
Starting point is 00:22:40 Thank you particulate A 40 hits you right? A 40? Yes. Plus two from the... Okay. No bleed. I'm doing this based on flat-footed AC. 41 points of damage.
Starting point is 00:22:56 No precision damage in there, right? No precision. That's just straight-up damage. That would have been a times three crit, by the way, so over 123 points of damage had you not cast Particular Form. Sounds slightly bottle-capped. So you just feel
Starting point is 00:23:11 like someone just hit you like someone just hit you with a Buick. Like just SHABOOM! Le Sabre! Le Sabre! And that presence that you're detecting feels much closer. It is now Baron's turn.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Oh, jeez. It is here, Sheriff! Straight in front of us! Oh, jeez. Oh, jeez. Can Baron do anything to echolocate this attack and fire into concealment? What would I end up doing to try and do that? No, you're...
Starting point is 00:23:42 I mean, this is the same problem Nestor had now for the last two weeks. Yeah. The only time Nestor got to target it is when he provoked an AOL and then was like, well, I know where that came from. Shot at a 50% miss chance. You can fire... You know, well, you have the sense that it's a huge creature. You could fire into the darkness. Yeah, okay. So what
Starting point is 00:24:00 Baron's... What you need to do... Here's the actual rules of Pathfinder. Yeah. You need to open up all the light so we can see the squares. And he needs to pick a square to fire in and fire. Those are the rules. He can pick any square and fire into it. So really, it's about the echolocation of Sir Will. So the choice is just, does he fire directly in front of Sir Will or a couple paces further than Sir Will because of thinking of maybe reach?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Right. And then you pick a square. And if it's there and you roll over 50, it's a hit. All right, here's what I'll do then. I will reveal the... It's just hard to do with our map because it's completely blank. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Now, I've revealed the room to you. You don't see any creature there. I hope. Okay. We don't. Baron is going to move forward directly into the lip of darkness and say to Nestor, I'll see you on the other side.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And Baron enters the dark. Enters the dark. Still with his foot against the back wall so he could step back into it easily. I just love that. See you, Nestor, and you just walk in. That will put him within the 40-foot range of his gun, and he will fire, aiming slightly upward into the space above Sir Will.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Okay, so right five feet in front of Sir Will. Just ping it on the map. Did Sir Will feel that the creature was directly in front of him, or that there was a cushion of air? I don't know if Troy's giving me that. I just said, the was directly in front of him or that there was a cushion of air? I don't know if Troy's giving me that. I just said the creature's in front of me. Here's the weird thing about that rule, though, is it doesn't really account on how projectiles actually work, which is that it would continue traveling after that square.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah, but it would be a miss, essentially. It would continue traveling after that square but not be a hit on its weak spot or whatever. That's the 50% miss chance. Can I throw something out there in your direction, Troy? I don't think I'm going to like it, but not be a hit on its weak spot or whatever. Like that's the 50% mischance. Can I throw something out there in your direction? I don't think I'm going to like it, but let's listen. I think sir. Will should be allowed a perception check to know if there is a huge creature or a large creature directly in front of him,
Starting point is 00:25:57 or if there's a little bit of a space between it. Okay. You know, I don't hate it. Uh, roll a perception check. Sir. Well,
Starting point is 00:26:04 the problem with that, Matthew, is you don't know that I'm incapable of making this check. So if we didn't mention the check, I probably could have just gotten it. And that's why I allowed it. Right. Twelve. Twelve? Dude. What is your perception?
Starting point is 00:26:19 He's not a ranger. What's your perception? You're 16th level. Plus two. Did you just never add a point into perception? I've got, I get two ranks per level. So for the entire history of my character
Starting point is 00:26:32 I've had 30 total ranks. They've gone into other things. There's other people perceptive in this party. You never studied. It's as if the adage saying it's the most important skill of the game has never... I'm'm sorry it's a 16 Okay yeah you don't know
Starting point is 00:26:49 But Baron What do you want to do Baron's gonna flip it in reverse At Missy Elliot style real quick Stay on the other side of the border Think better of it see cowardice enter his eyes Nestor does and he's gonna cast long shot On himself so he has the extra 10 feet
Starting point is 00:27:04 To go into that darkness once he has a better idea of where it's echolocated. He's only going to be able to get one shot off now if he moves and then fires. So I'd rather be able to have that range and not have to waste a turn later casting Longshot on myself, if that makes sense. This is a game of inches.
Starting point is 00:27:20 So you are, instead of shooting, staying out of the darkness and casting Longshot so that you have the range to be able to fire should you see the creature or get a sense of it. If I get a sense of it, I'll just have a little bit more space as he encroaches and moves this darkness around. It'll just give me that extra juice. I'm thinking of Pacino on any given Sunday, baby. Football and life, they're game of inches. This truly is a game of inches. This truly is a game
Starting point is 00:27:45 of inches. It's Nestor's turn. Nestor would like to do his own perception check to see if he can hear this creature in the darkness. Okay, I like it. That is
Starting point is 00:28:02 a 31. 31. 31. Okay. You sense it being close to the back of the room. Okay. So Nestor is going to fire towards the back of the room. And I will... Well, let's see all right i am going to pick a square just just beyond sir willamette on the other side of him 10 feet beyond sir will yeah okay and i don't get my study target bonuses for first time in a long time so i will fire off my first shot and
Starting point is 00:28:49 over where over sir will's head where are you firing sorry 10 feet in front of me yeah okay uh first shot is going to be a 36 36 sir will you're right there. You just hear the arrow sail on. Okay. So I don't hear the telltale thunk of my arrow. Now here's the thing. You have multiple arrows.
Starting point is 00:29:17 So you can say now you want to aim somewhere else. Yeah, that is indeed what I'm going to do. So I am going... I'll keep the map revealed for you so you can keep showing me where. Okay. I'm going to go slightly to Sir Will's
Starting point is 00:29:34 left this time with the second arrow. Okay. Natty 19, critical threat. Sir Will hears it. Fly by. Okay. Fourth arrow is going to be just to threat. Sir Will hears it fly by. Okay. Fourth arrow is going to be just to his right and ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:29:51 That is a natty 16. That is a 40 something. So five feet in front of him and to the left or to the right. Yeah. Sales pass. Okay. so you've shot 10 feet in front of them and then
Starting point is 00:30:09 five feet on either side of them okay wait you weren't shooting who's shooting the squares directly and like caddy corner to sir will he was in caddy corner oh i thought okay the ones five feet away i thought you were shooting right above and below the 10-foot-away square. I got you. All right. So, okay. Should we mark off which square so later on we don't? Yeah. Well, we can, but, you know, it can move easily.
Starting point is 00:30:34 It would only be good for a round. Yeah. Until his next turn. All right. So, he is going to now try shooting 10 feet past and to Sir Will's left. 10 feet past Sir Will's left. That is a 32 to hit.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Flies by. It's like playing battle. It's 15. It is. It's gotta be. It's 15 feet straight. Okay, yeah. That's my guess. This thing has massive reach, right? Okay, so alright, we'll do 15 feet ahead. Come on. Roll high.
Starting point is 00:31:09 That is a 28 to hit. You don't know if it missed or if there's nothing there. But you don't hear it find purchase. Okay, but if it's enough to hit its armored AC, and if it's over its touch AC, then it would have hit its armor and just not sunk into its flesh. True. So I would still hear, or at least get a chance to hear, that impact. You have good enough perception. I'll even tell you.
Starting point is 00:31:39 You don't hear it. Okay. So that leads you to believe that it is more than 15 feet away or to the north of that square all right or the south uh okay two more attacks which one is going at a little the square 15 feet beyond a little the square to the north of the one that I just shot at. Okay. That is a 26 to hit. Same thing. You don't hear anything. Just disappears.
Starting point is 00:32:09 All right. Final shot. 15 feet beyond square to the south. 20 feet, you mean. That's the one you just picked. Yeah. That's a miss. That's just a straight miss.
Starting point is 00:32:23 We learned a lot. Yeah. A lot of information will be completely useless as of my next turn well you never know because if it comes closer to Sir Will you're going to know exactly where it is it was Nester okay let's see here it's almost
Starting point is 00:32:44 Sir Will's turn. Actually, yeah, it's Sir Will's turn. Let me just bathe you in darkness. Nice, warm darkness. You're in it now. This is impossible. Unfortunately, it turns out this is impossible.
Starting point is 00:33:14 You just gotta survive an onslaught. You guys want a quick load? You've also drawn it out as well. Yeah. Alright, I'm gonna do one thing for one stupid round. This is so stupid and I'm so sick of it. Alright, let's see.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I feel like I have to track... Remaining in its full attack range at the end of your decision. I have to track down the creature. Okay. As he said, I do not fear the darkness! And he's going to touch himself and cast a spell.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And then move forward until he hits the creature. All right. Okay. And he'll zigzag as needed Until he hits the creature Bumps into the creature Alright so he's just gonna move forward until he feels it next to him Yeah Wow
Starting point is 00:34:12 You move five feet forward You don't feel nothing your lance is out Sword Oh Lexington has scent too Oh yes That can help Huge, huge Help guide you
Starting point is 00:34:27 You move 20 feet forward So Lexington knows when it's in the next square Okay And it's in the next square After moving 20 feet forward So its reach is 25 feet 20 feet 20 feet
Starting point is 00:34:39 So it's gargantuan You don't know that Because there's some creatures that have different reaches, but you know it's bigger than huge. Bigger than huge. Probably bigger than huge. There are some creatures that are large that just have long fucking arms. What's cooler than being cold?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Good boy. And Sir Will is just going to strike out with his sword. Strike out 50% of his chance. Strike out with his sword one time. It's a miss on concealment. And that's his round. But you know where it is. I know where it is. It is right in front of me!
Starting point is 00:35:14 20 feet beyond where I was before where I first stopped. My God. If I had to put a square on it. It is... A 17. As we go into Metra's turn, that's 11 rounds of particular form, 10 rounds of stalwart, eight rounds of incorporeality. And it is Metra's toying.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Second round of detect magic. Second round of detect magic. Second round of detect magic. Second round of detect magic. So at this point, by the rules of the spell. Sure. That's what we're most interested in. I know the number of different magical auras and the power of the most potent aura.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Okay. Mind you, not the location of the most potent aura. Not the location. You'll know that soon enough of uh is the most potent aura a level three deeper darkness or are there even more potent jawns uh you know what that's interesting right because you don't have greater dispel you just have dispel i just have the spell okay uh and what what do you get to know again how many or how many and the power of the most powerful. So I can say, like, you have one 10th level power, one 8th level, and one 7th.
Starting point is 00:36:31 The power of the most powerful. The power of the most powerful. So you can say you sense four auras and one is caster level 15. Okay. You sense... How do you not have this prepared? Well... I've only done this for, what, five rounds so far in this combat? Well, it just shows you how many magical things are happening right now.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I know. It's very scary. I want to say three auras, and the highest-powered one is a level six. Actually, three, 4, 5 auras and the highest powered one is a level 6 spell 5 magical auras absolutely incredible
Starting point is 00:37:16 what I love about detect magic too is someone who can cast it as an auras and like that is used to the other ambient sources of magic around him all the time, like Nestor's magic bow, Baron's gun, all these things, and it's sensing these new things that stand out. It's so cool. It's like different smells walking into a kitchen or something.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Right. Okay. Metro will stay where she is in the wall. You don't want to move closer just in case it moves back. It's a good idea. You moved to it, it moves back it's a good idea you moved to it so i think it's definitely terrified of you and well i will i don't want to give troy ideas here so i'm just i will i will no joe's right i will slide along the wall you know 15 feet just in case it moves back get deeper into the room deeper into Yeah, deeper into the room. Deeper into the room.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Deeper into the room. At least you know it's probably not going to move past Sir Will. I can tell you you're one square away from just being in the next room. You're at the edge of the wall now. I'm at the edge of the wall. In the next room. Sir Will is right next to this creature who has a full attack available. I mean, I heard Sir Will, so where is he in relation to me?
Starting point is 00:38:25 To the southwest. I'll, I heard Sir Will, so where is he in relation to me? To the southwest. I'll stay level with Sir Will. Okay. But you don't know where Sir Will is. Yeah. I heard you, Tom. You'd actually have to backtrack and move into that open space. Oh, so I was already down, Sir Will.
Starting point is 00:38:39 You've already passed Sir Will, yeah. All right, well, then I'll just move forward five feet. Okay. Split the difference. All right, so now you're five feet away from the edge going into the next room. I mean, it's go time here. Next round, Metro's going to be able to know where it is. But actually, you still need one more round then to cast the dispel, which could still fail.
Starting point is 00:39:01 But now it's the creature's turn, and Sir Will can smell it. And I got four attacks to do And I'm gonna take them Hope Sir Will Does Sir Will have anything that can Save off death Um Armor I'm not worried man
Starting point is 00:39:21 You're not? Okay I have hit points Okay Hit points will do it That'll save off death for a while Negating crits is huge Because the crits Armor. I'm not worried, man. You're not? Okay. I have hit points. Okay. Hit points will do it. That'll save off death for a while. Negating crits is huge because the crits would... One crit would kill Metra with its main weapon.
Starting point is 00:39:34 He's completely fearless. He knows he will be guided through this. You're going to need some guidance. By his faith. In Iomedae. If all four of these attacks hit, I don't see how you can survive it. I would agree with you mathematically,
Starting point is 00:39:50 but they're not going to hit. Okay. Let's see. First attack. I'm more nervous than I sound. I got this. I'll save the bite for the end. First attack is a...
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'm going to put a lot of slam in the table. Natural two! 33. Please. Okay. Protected by God! Second attack, 31. Now, boom.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Do I have power attack on? And he lives another round. I have power attack on. That's why the damage is so high. Minus four plus eight damage. Minus four to attack plus eight damage. All right. Third attack is probably is a miss with a 16.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. A 16 total? Wow. It would have been a plus 19 for the last attack. It says a plus 11. Anyways, here's the bite. 23 on the bite. Oh!
Starting point is 00:40:45 Wasn't even worried. I am shocked. I mean, I'm looking at this and I'm like, I think I'm going to hit you. I didn't roll well, but okay. All right. Now I don't... Shielded by a god. I'm not as worried. He's got like a Unitarian Church's worth of
Starting point is 00:41:00 enchantments on him right now. The blessing of Torek coursing through him along with his customary gods, and I love it. This is going to be very, very interesting here. Sir Will, the Unitarian Universalist. It is Baron's turn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Baron is going to do a perception check to see if he can hear, if he heard the moment when Sir Will bumped into the monster to try to echolocate that, is that something I can do? No, but Sir Will can tell you. It's right here!
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's right here. The best you can do is pick a space and tell me what you want to do. But you have a good enough sense of the room that if you want to shoot towards the back of the room. I'll pick a space and shoot towards the back of the room immediately in front of where I heard Sir Will's voice. Okay. I am turning off rapid shot because this will be...
Starting point is 00:41:49 This is the question. Can you target something you can't see? You can shoot at something square. Target a square anytime you want. Right. So even something with total concealment, you can still do it, right? We're not going to get harangued? Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I mean, I am 99.9% sure. We've gone over this since the days Of the Awiga fight You know you can attack Into a space But can you Like melee attack But can you shoot ranged Why not
Starting point is 00:42:10 Why can't you shoot a bullet There's no Right right Yeah It said you can't target A creature that has Total concealment But that just means
Starting point is 00:42:20 Without a mischance Right You can always have Yeah you always have Okay If you're standing in a room The guy's with a gun in the next room you're like you turn off the lights like oh i'm safe now but i mean you can make arguments to not a character be it being unrealistic or too metagamey if like uh uh there was no possible way to even know a creature's in the room and
Starting point is 00:42:43 you're shooting in a square or something but you, this is a combat that's happening in front of us. It's making noise. It's right there. That's what the 50% is. The words they use is attack. They don't specify melee or range. You can attack in any square that you think, and it's 50% mischance. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:57 So I can't see the map currently. I'm just trying to get it for the purposes of what I'm reducing my roll by outside of my first range increment. Is it about 80 feet away from where I'm standing, the square I'm targeting? Right now, you're right where the door is. Okay, so just tell me how far away the square is I'm targeting based off of what I heard from Sir Will, which is the one immediately in front of where I heard the scream. 65 feet. Okay, so that is going to be against regular AC.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And I'm going to turn off rapid shot to get that extra bonus to hit. My roll to attack. That is a 30 to hit regular AC. Roll your 50% miss chance. Here it comes. Let's roll them at the same time, Berger. regular AC. Roll your 50% miss chance. Here it comes. Let's roll them at the same time, Berger. Let's go. It's a professional podcast.
Starting point is 00:43:52 17 miss. I'll have to try again. Unless I was able... Did that hit touch AC? Did I hear a clang? It is so complicated. You feel pretty confident that it's there. That's all I'm going to say. It is so complicated. Yeah. You feel pretty confident that it's there.
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's all I'm going to say. Okay, so I'm going to roll them at the same time because Joe's a wiener. I'm just thinking of the listener. Take it, O'Brien. 45, a miss on concealment. I'm not even going to tell you what I rolled. Geez. Another miss on concealment.
Starting point is 00:44:23 God. I'm going to ring it at the same time. Batang, batang, batang. This feels real real This feels like it would really like Just unloading into the dark A 56 on concealment Okay But only a 21 to hit regular AC I'm so sorry
Starting point is 00:44:40 That didn't seem to do it But the good news is your plan seems to be working. The fact that Sir Will is still alive. Okay. We just need to buy time, Sheriff. And is there... Religion knowledge checks aren't going to help me out at all here, right? No, without being able to see anything...
Starting point is 00:44:59 You'll be out of knowledge here! Don't forget now, it's been a couple episodes, but when you walked into the room, the room was this huge salon with frescoes of the cloud giants fighting a war against those who hate beauty. And we got the sense that those cloud giants, as is in the lore, were not necessarily evil, but just warrior type of people in these frescoes. Yeah. Honorous battle. Yeah, that's what you thought for a moment. You were like, man, I want to fight on the side of the cloud giants that seemed cool yeah this is
Starting point is 00:45:28 an intruder to this space it seems like quite a dark intruder um okay nestor's turn all right nice though uh so having a pretty decent idea having heard the ricochet of gunshots off this thing's flesh or body, is going to unleash a full attack without a steady target bonus. First attack is a 39 to hit and a 94 on the concealment. Oh, my God. We're all damaged. Oh, the first hit! This is the first hit, right?
Starting point is 00:46:08 This is the first hit at all, I believe. And this was a many shot? This is many shot. Oh, couldn't you make a favor and break up the damage for me? Okay. It's 67 points of damage, five of which is electricity. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Got it. Okay. Got it. Okay. Okay. Second attack. Common. Miss on concealment. Okay. Third attack. Okay. That is an 83
Starting point is 00:46:44 on concealment And a 33 against AC Give me that damage Okay Okay, alright Zero it in, hurting it now Alright, that's 30 points of damage 30 points of damage
Starting point is 00:47:01 How much of it is electricity? Sorry, 3 is electricity. And remember, this bypasses DR. Right. Right. Okay. Fourth attack. Miss on concealment.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Fifth attack. That is an 81 on concealment and a 26 against AC. That's a miss, I'm sure. That is a miss. All right. Final attack. Miss.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Okay. Hey, great round. All right. Phenomenal round. Banner round. Phenomenal banner. To me, this says this fight is all but over. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Matthew, your thoughts? He's sweating He's still sweating I'm suddenly less drunk But I'm definitely still sweating Okay Let's see here Very interesting
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Starting point is 00:48:27 Spicy blend Not quite as nice Not quite as nice But if that's all you got At a place Try that out I've had it I just love the pickle
Starting point is 00:48:33 Actually I don't think I've had spicy blend Forget the spicy blend I've had Mr. and Mrs. T's Regular I didn't know Mr. T Was married at all Yep
Starting point is 00:48:39 And makes a wide variety Of cocktail mixers I guess it's like... You never had Mr. T's mojito? I think Mr. T's mojito is the one you love. I can see why someone would be attracted to him because of the amount of empathy that he's exhibited through his entire life. He's so much pity in him. And even for fools.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Even for fools. He pities even fools. All right. Behind Baron and Nestor... Oh, goddammit Two creatures appear And, uh, go ahead and describe those to our audience Oh, this is a weird, dumb-looking flame gremlin with wings
Starting point is 00:49:16 It looks like a bad guy in a Disney animated movie Yes Like a bad henchman Oh, it looks like, uh, from Ferngully Like an evil version of the bat Robin Williams was the voice of. You know what, Grant? I think that's spot on.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah. But with flame wings. Flame wings and red skin. Yeah, it's a small creature, this little tiny devil-looking thing that its wingspan is just pure fire. Two of them appear behind, one behind Baron and one behind Nestor.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And they... Is he summoning them? I think these have been here. They're the ones that have been shooting the scorching rays. They're the ones that are shooting the scorching rays. But how did they get to behind Baron and Nestor? They've been invisible. They're invisible.
Starting point is 00:49:58 They were invisible. But I can see them. Oh. I can see them. As soon as they leave the darkness, I can see them. Yeah, Troy. What's that? As soon as they leave the darkness, I can see them. soon as they leave the darkness I can see them As soon as they leave the darkness I can see them And you didn't, they just appeared behind you
Starting point is 00:50:10 Appeared into existence And that's all that happens to them Actually no, they appear and they are going to Attack They're summoned They're not summoned, correct? Why? Because we'd be immune to them
Starting point is 00:50:24 At least Grant would I'm not sure if Nestor had protection Summoned, correct? Why? Because we'd be immune to them. You are. At least Grant would. I'm not sure if Nestor had protection from evil cast on him. Okay, well, one goes to attack Baron. Nothing happens. Nothing happens. So it is a summon creature. And then the other one... How dare you question me.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Well, wait, do these things do Scorching Ray? Maybe. Because I am immune, too. You are immune. If it's a summon creature. Oh, is it only melee attacks so or all damage from uh all right this is what i can tell you you can't be touched by a summon creature you're you take that damage and i can tell you why later okay um but these ones the
Starting point is 00:50:56 first one goes to hit you baron and whether it's or not does no damage if it's bodily contact by the creature you know what i mean i I believe this causes natural weapon attacks of such creatures to fail and the creatures to recoil if such attacks require touching the warded creature. Ah, okay. So if it's using a weapon, I guess it would be fine. Even if that weapon was summoned, which, yeah, or a spell. Or a spell. Okay, yeah, no, it tried to scorching ray you. Okay, and you guys can't provoke
Starting point is 00:51:26 because you have ranged weapons out. Very smart summon creatures. The other one will attempt to scorching ray Nestor from point blank range. I wonder if it's a mephit. It's like a flame mephit or something. Might be. Mephits are... Are they small or are they tiny? They're
Starting point is 00:51:42 small. I think they're small. This might be a miss. That's a 10 against Nestor's Touch AC. That is a miss. Alright, so the Scorching Wraith flies wild and disappears. Imagine this fire just winks out the minute it hits the darkness. Well, this is the first we're seeing these devils. Devils
Starting point is 00:51:58 and demons that have been rumored for years of our podcast. And now they're right on Nestor and Baron's back. Just annoying little creatures that are right there that will, if they try to take an attack, will provoke unless they move into the darkness. I'm sorry, I was, my hero lab crashed, but did any of you get hit by a Scorching Ray?
Starting point is 00:52:16 No. Okay, good, because you have the protection. Yeah, we got you. Yeah. All right. Now it is Sir Will the Brave's turn. Sir Will of Brave's turn. Sir Will of Highbury! At this point, I will lift the veil for you
Starting point is 00:52:31 and let you know that you, I was confident because of the spell that I cast on myself, which gave me protection. It is a litany of defense. It gives me an ungodly boost to AC, which made my flat-footed AC 50.
Starting point is 00:52:51 My gosh! For that round. Is that correct? Yeah. It is a swift action, and it only lasts one round. Wow! So now it goes away, but I wanted you to just go ham on me. I did. Only a natural 20 would hit, but now it goes away. There was one round. That's on me only a natural 20 would uh would hit but now it goes away there was one round that's why i could cast move up and then swing uh because it was a
Starting point is 00:53:10 swifty but wow wow uh such a fun little spell that's litany of defense it's called uh all right now lexington styling this thing right in front of us. Sir Will is just, go back to the shadow! And he just swings his holy sword! Roselight. Roselight. Trying to see if I can find any other bonuses to hit. This is just generally going to be tough. Oh, it is an evil creature, correct?
Starting point is 00:53:40 No, he seems cool. Oh, right. So that is going to be a bonus. Here we go. Miss on concealment, natural 19, critical 10. Critical 10. God damn it. Second attack is a 37 and a 63 on concealment.
Starting point is 00:53:58 That seems like a hit. Okay, fantastic. Normally it would only be 20% mischance, but because of the deeper darkness, you still can't see it. It's effective. You're effectively blind. It's going to be 21 points of damage. Okay, how does that shake out?
Starting point is 00:54:12 It is 13 points of regular damage and 11 points of holy damage okay um gotcha and i just wanted to make sure that this doesn't have any other bonuses it does brow gasher oh yeah oh yeah all right so i will expend that if this creature bleeds okay and is alive those are the two caveats. It must bleed. It must be living. Okay. If it's an outsider, I think it is alive still. I'm alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Yeah, she's alive. Where are you? I'm alive! Do you bleed blood? I'm alive. Okay. I'm going to say that that's right. I believe that is correct.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Okay. Third attack is... Oh, cracked on the concealed, John. The same exact roll on all three die. What? It was a 63 again on concealment and a 10 on the D20. That is 32 to hit. 32 is a hit.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Okay, great. So now I'll separate it this time. So that's 15 physical and 6 holy. 15 physical and 6 holy. Okay. You feel like you're just stabbing at a wall that's
Starting point is 00:55:36 getting through, but it's just like, what the hell is this? Yeah, this is brutal. This isn't my job. Miss on concealment. Hit on the d20 again. Rolling rocks with this D20. And then last attack. Hardest to hit is a miss on the
Starting point is 00:55:53 D20, which is going to be a 23. That is a miss. Yeah. 80 on concealment, but a miss. I'll have a round, though. I'll have a round. Does it take bleed damage? If it does, it'll take it on its turn. No, it takes it immediately. Right away?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah. Okay. Free action. It's really not. It opens a gash on the target's forward that deals bleed damage equal to half your caster level. In which case, that would be... At the start of each of the target's turns, when it takes additional bleed damage, or just bleed damage... We'll see on its turn.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Let's do it that way. That's easier to track. You're probably right. Well, yeah, usually you bleed on your turn, but sometimes there's things that override that, so if you find that that's true... Yeah, we'll just do it on their turn. Sorry, and swift action lay on hands myself. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Okay. Try to stay in the fight here. Uh, go... No, it says that deals bleed damage equal to half your win you decide. In addition to the normal effects of that hit, the wielder can discharge the spell as a free action to open a gash on the target's forehead that deals bleed damage equal to half your caster's level.
Starting point is 00:56:52 It doesn't say on its turn. At the start of each of the target's turn, when it takes bleed damage from that source, it also takes a cumulative minus one penalty. Now you choose when to do it, right? He chose on the first time he struck. Oh, but he's the wielder, not the caster? He's the wielder. It's on the weapon. Great. So you want to use it?
Starting point is 00:57:10 Okay, and it would be what? Eight points of bleed damage? It would be half of my level. I'm a level nine Inquisitor, so four points of bleed damage. Four points of bleed damage. Okay. If it bleeds, we can kill it. And what about the cumulative penalty on attack? On your turn, you'll take another four points of bleed damage, and then you take a penalty on attack on your turn you'll take another four points of bleed damage and then you take a minus one penalty at your turn that gets ugly at a certain point because the blood starts to get in his eyes and he gets concealment and then he gets
Starting point is 00:57:34 blinded if it gets up to that blood gets in your eyes all right um not too worried about that portion of the spell. Shut up! It is Metra's turn, but first of all, that's ten rounds of Particulate Force, nine rounds of Starwort, and seven rounds of Inculpe Reality. Third round of Detect Magic. Oh! You detect the magic. Which is the condition you set forth for being able to dispel it. You know exactly
Starting point is 00:58:05 where it is, and it is 15 feet away from you. Okay. What is it? Is it an item? Do you get to know that? The strength... In the third round I get to know the strength and location of each aura. If the items or creatures bearing the auras are in line of
Starting point is 00:58:21 sight, you can make a knowledge check to determine the school of magic. They are not. If the aura emanates from a magic item, you can make a knowledge check to determine the school of magic. If the aura emanates from a magic item, you can attempt to identify its properties. Okay, that I can tell you. With a spellcraft check. Yeah, he cast it on his weapon. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Interesting. Interesting. Alright. You know where it is. I'm not done, though. Okay. Because at that moment, I activate the quick and mana magic rod and class dispel magic. Oh!
Starting point is 00:58:51 Third level spell! All right, so you have to peek out of the wall to do so, to cast a spell. You need to emerge from the wall. You can either come all the way out or just peek out, and at the end of your turn, I'll reach my fingers and my eyeballs. That's fine. That's all I need to hit. Your nose then too. Yes, my nose. Come on! My nose
Starting point is 00:59:09 proceeds. We're following the rules here. Actually, I do this. You look like Han Solo in Carbonite. So you leave yourself vulnerable to attacks but you do have 20% partial concealment because half of your body is inside of a wall. Roll that dispel magic check.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Okay. I've been reading this basically the whole episode, and I've done this many times in our games. Still don't understand. For years. For years. And I will never understand dispel magic. Basically, I think I make a dispel check
Starting point is 00:59:39 and compare that to the spell with the highest caster level. This is tricky because you might dispel something besides Deeper Darkness. I know. And so I just have to do it again. And the thing is, you detected a sixth level spell. I know. And you could and you know Deeper Darkness isn't a sixth level spell, so you may end up just dispelling that
Starting point is 00:59:57 unless you can choose. No, you can choose. You can choose the aura. Right. So let's say the weapon. Let's say the weapon is greater. It has a greater magical, more potent magic spell on it. You could feasibly dispel that first. But not like it tells me that would be good, too. I can use a targeted spell to specifically end one spell affecting the target or one spell affecting an area.
Starting point is 01:00:27 You must name the specific spell effect to be targeted in this way. If your cash level check is equal or two or higher than the DC, that spell, it ends. Oh, great. Boom. Great. Perfect. So you know what it is. You can name it.
Starting point is 01:00:39 You know it's on his weapon. That's enough in the way that we've altered how this works for you to be able to do it. So you just got to beat the DC. This is brutal. Bottle cap. Anybody got a bottle cap? Grant. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Grant. Troy said he's taking control of him now. And stop forwarding my bottle caps, Joe. I'm sick of it. I don't think I'm being okay. I don't have no idea. What are you going to roll, though? I roll a d20 at my caster level.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And it's 11 plus... Plus the spell's caster. The creature's caster level. Yes. Right? Well, that makes it impossible. Well, it's a third level spell. But he made me multiclass.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Well, here's the thing. Is it the... Are you multiclassed? That doesn't matter. Here's the thing. Is it the caster level of the creature? Yes, but it's the caster level of the number of levels the creature has in the the class right that can cast that spell just like my bleed was not a full half of 16 it was half of nine six level sorcerer
Starting point is 01:01:37 and a 10th level fighter it's level well the other thing it's none of those things it's its own thing and it's a 16th level caster well the only thing that confuses me is with this dispel magic it's level well the other thing it's none of those things it's its own thing and it's a 16th level caster well the only thing that confuses me is with this dispel magic it's like is deeper darkness i mean the only way then that you could have different powers of spells then is if there were different casters casting them to have different potency. So I believe that I could be wrong, but I feel like the, like, let's say it has bless on or something, right?
Starting point is 01:02:12 It's not cleric, but let's say it has bless on a level one buff. Like I believe that that caster level of that is one, even though a 15th level caster cast it, it is easy to dispel. Whereas a higher level spell is harder to dispel because you go based on the caster level of the spell, the minimum level at which you can cast it.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I'm rolling a caster level check and I'm adding my caster level, which has nothing to do with the fact that this is a third level spell. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because of your expertise as a more experienced spellcaster, you are casting a more difficult version of that spell to dispel. Yeah, but it's not using up a higher spell slot. It's not, but that's like the one benefit.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Well, no, it's not the only benefit, because it's like you get things like extended durations. You get things like more damage based on your level. Yeah, the spell of the text of the spell says against caster level. It does say the spell's caster level, not the spell caster's caster level. It does say the spells caster level, not the spell casters caster level. That's why it always confused me. That is very confusing. And I always thought that lower level spells were easier to dispel,
Starting point is 01:03:15 and not just because, you know, in this case, the difference between, you know, a 26 DC and 25 DC, but the difference between like a 26 DC and like a 21 DC the difference between a 26 DC and a 21 DC. Oh, that spells cast, yeah, that possesses. Because it specifies your caster level and against the DC, which includes the spells caster
Starting point is 01:03:36 level, not the spell caster's caster level. Yeah, because you couldn't know if it's an enchanted item from a thousand years ago. It amazes me that there are still room for interpretation for this stuff but all the people who make these rules
Starting point is 01:03:52 are alive and well. They could just say one way or the fucking other after years. Why don't you tell us how to interpret this fucking spell? Alright, according to the magic section of the rulebook, a spell's power often depends on its caster level,
Starting point is 01:04:07 which for most spellcasting characters is equal to her class level and the class she's using to cast the spell. That's what I was saying before. You can cast a spell at a lower caster level than normal, but the caster level you choose must be high enough for you to cast a spell in question, and all level-dependent features must be based on the same caster level. DC 27, dispel magic check. And you got a what? A plus 16?
Starting point is 01:04:26 I got a roll of 11 or better. That's 50-50. Touch of law, baby! 50-50 shot. This is kind of what you expected. Alright, I am rolling this crystalline D20 I got from Shaw Shaw, embedded in the core of Groth.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Come on, Metra. God, no! I rolled Nate. You thought the die from the Cthulian monster planet was gonna do you a favor? It has rolled very well for me in the past. Yeah, and it abandoned you
Starting point is 01:05:02 at our moment of greatest need. I don't like it. I don't like the rule. If that's the way the rule works, it's incorrect. It's not. I mean, you got a 50-50 chance. That's a 24. That was a 20.
Starting point is 01:05:17 50-50 chance to dispel a third-level spell. You are a 16th-level caster. But it allows you to, like, use it late in play because it's dependent on the caster level of the... You know what I mean? If you're fighting a high level boss that casts a spell that anybody could cast on him, it makes the spell more powerful
Starting point is 01:05:36 in that way. If you cast it at a higher caster level. But a spell like this doesn't change its caster level. Right. The way that I'm thinking about it is look at the DC, right? You have a DC 26 to dispel this. 27. 27?
Starting point is 01:05:51 Oh, actually, yeah. DC 27. It's the same. How much more powerful are 5th level spells than 3rd level spells? Yeah, and they're exactly as easy to dispel as the 3rd level spell. Well, it's just two more points harder. Right. It should be like five more points. Harder. Right. It should be like five more points.
Starting point is 01:06:07 The levels it takes you to learn to cast that. Yeah. The caster level of an item, the caster level of a potion is the minimum caster level of that spell, to cast that spell. The caster level of a potion of cure moderate wounds is five.
Starting point is 01:06:22 You know what I mean? Like, just because you are a 10th level caster made, it doesn't mean it becomes a caster level 10. Yeah. Anyway, all the rules interpretation I'm reading are saying it's the caster level. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah. That's what I saw too. But you know, I mean, it does make it, it's, it's scaled for me too, right?
Starting point is 01:06:38 Cause I'm a 16th level caster and I get to add, but essentially that means that it, to me, it takes a little bit of the juice out of it because it's basically it's basically, if you're fighting people that have a similar CR, it's just a coin flip every time, the spell. It kind of
Starting point is 01:06:54 doesn't matter how powerful you are. If you're just like, you know, on balance it's always 50-50. It seems strange that a lower level spell wouldn't be easier to dispel than that percentage. This percentage only goes down a couple points. Anyway. Well, you still know where it is, and next round you can try it again.
Starting point is 01:07:10 You can try it. Well, thank God we have a sorcerer. Yeah, yeah. You know, Wizard would be like, well, that was it for today. That was it. I didn't memorize five versions of the same spell. Clock out and call it a day. I'll stay in the wall. Yeah. All right, you're on your own.
Starting point is 01:07:24 He retreats back into the wall very slowly. Good luck, Sir Will. All right, it is the creature's turn. And the creature now sees a little nose and some fingers. And a very tough, difficult to hit halfling. Well, I lost that bonus. That's true, but he didn't know that. Well, he might
Starting point is 01:07:45 It could be the shimmering shining aura That just and then goes away Let's take one hammer hit Against Sir Will It's a hammer I slipped It's a hammer Oh thank god
Starting point is 01:07:59 That is going to be a 34 to hit, Sir Will That miss off the shield Clang! Named for his mother And then right at the wall at Metra's face BAM! The second attack Get back in there
Starting point is 01:08:16 31 to hit The mirror images don't count but you do still have to roll concealment Because I'm in the wall as you That's right, 20% miss chance 50% when you're Only her concealment because I'm in the wall as you... That's right. 20% mischief. 50%. 50% when you're... Only her face and hand were exposed from the wall. But what's the actual rule?
Starting point is 01:08:30 I don't know. What is the rule for leaning out of a wall when ethereal to cast a spell? Maybe it's just the rule of cover. No, it's just in the description for incorporeal. I'm just trying to go logically. Like the amount of her body exposed that's actually exposed is less than 50 it's like five percent of her body flavor decided that the actual rule is in the text for incorporeal i'm just trying to maintain some kind of sense of reality in this fantasy world it actually is 50
Starting point is 01:08:55 percent uh well let me see i mean you flavor decided that 50 is very generous you flavor decided i had to come out of the wall you have to that's not true you do have to you do have to incorporeated creatures cannot cast through solid objects, even though they can move through them. An incorporeal creature inside of an object has total cover, but when it attacks a creature outside the object, which is what you did, it only
Starting point is 01:09:15 has cover. So a creature with a ready to action could strike as it attacks. This is insane. This is insane. I didn't have a ready to action, so is that saying that you could then pull out? Yes. That's what you say. I think this is in the same realm of you saying a caster can take a hand off of its weapon to cast a spell and then go back.
Starting point is 01:09:33 The last sentence is the important one. You had to peek out to do it. But unless I had a ready to action to attack you, you go back. You can just lean back as a free action. Lean back. That didn't work. Lean back. Bye-bye. Lean back. That didn't work. Lean back. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Lean back. You're back. Okay. Then the second attack. So, man, slams into the wall. What a bummer for you. Well, 31 doesn't hit you. I'm going to keep the same rule.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Right? No. Yeah. Oh, God. I would have done something else. Third attack. Miss. 28.
Starting point is 01:10:02 And then the bite. 18 on the bite. Not today, LaValle. It's not your day! Poop. Yep. We're turning this around. I was going to do so much more with Muttra sticking out. Muttra? Muttra is my dog.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Your name is Muttra. Have you read the comma Muttra? Baron, it's your turn. There are two creatures uh molesting you are they invisible and i put them on the map so no so no okay they are just totally visible baron has got to swing around and uh i mean what is your ruling on seeing outside of deeper darkness if i were to take a five foot step back I'll just fire at him where I'm standing but if I can't see outside and I've been in and out of this darkness would I know that if I
Starting point is 01:10:49 stepped in there it'd be inky black and I couldn't see outside of this room that's interesting right no you should be able to once you're in deeper darkness you can't see your hand in front of your face you can't see alright so then Baron is going to stay where he is and begin shooting at the creature in front of him
Starting point is 01:11:04 the one that front of him. The one that's behind him, you mean? Yes. Okay. Well, there's no facing in Pathfinder Troika. And that one will take an attack of opportunity and miss. All right. Here comes the first attack-a-roonie.
Starting point is 01:11:22 That is going to be a 24 to hit against Touch AC. That is a hit. Is there any knowledge check I can do to identify them to swift action put a bane of any sort uh knowledge planes nope can't do it i assume they're devils but we'll just roll with what's there that is 24 points of damage and it's dead oh okay fantastic uh baron will say, watch out, Nestor. Let me get that off you. Fire again. That is going to be a 26 against Touch AC.
Starting point is 01:11:52 That's a hit. For 21 points of damage. That one's gone, as well as two of your tests. Cleaning house, Bear Bear. I'll take that deal. I'll take that deal. And he pats off like a piece of his duster that caught on fire
Starting point is 01:12:07 from the earlier attack. And then shoots three more times at the creature in front of his throat. I will take... Did I say rapid shot was on or off?
Starting point is 01:12:15 I said it was on. I will take the shots into the distance. Hell yeah, dude. See what happens. Okay. From a distance. Just make sure to keep
Starting point is 01:12:22 tracking those bullets. That... Just won't ever happen. Hold on, I'm just making sure. That boy, he finally admitted it. It happened for a long time. But then it got stupid. Here it comes. Isn't there a whole Twitter account dedicated?
Starting point is 01:12:43 Yes, Barron's Bullets. Shout out to Barron's Bullets. Shout out to Barron's Bullets. Everybody give at Barron Bullets a big old follow. Smash that subscribe button and hit that like. Uh, here comes the first attack. We're going to do it with concealment like a professional. Uh, miss on the concealment and 18 on the die. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:13:00 That was rolling great on the die. Couldn't believe it. My lowest rolls were the ones where I hit the concealment. 48 on the concealment, Joe. Are you kidding me? 92 on the concealment, but a natty one. Oh, my God. All right, so that is a fumble.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Is it a misfire? Oh, it's actually a fumble. Or it's a misfire. Let's see if it's a fumble. And I've used my lucky ability of my gun to negate a misfire earlier today. And this is your lowest BAB? Your lowest attack bonus? Natural 20 on the confirm.
Starting point is 01:13:32 So it's just a misfire. What's the total? Doesn't a natty 20 automatically negate? It automatically hits. It's an auto hit. It's an auto hit. It's true. Auto hits.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Okay, yeah. No fumble, but that is a misfire. Do you want to know what it is for funsies? No, that's all right. Let's earn it. Let's earn it. They'll be like, I wish that got used for real. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Good round for me. Good round for you for real. And it is Nestor's turn. At least Nestor doesn't have to deal with a couple of annoying little mephits that were on your tail. Yeah, they were mephits. Nestor gives a grunt that might be interpreted as gratitude in Baron's direction and unleashes a full attack on the space where he believes the creature to be. First attack is a 62 on concealment and a 35 to hit.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Sounds like a hit. Give me that damage. Okay. God, on the mini shot. And that is 66 points of damage, five of which is electricity. Okay. Second attack. 99 on concealment and the same number to hit.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Wow. Wow. Wow. And that is 34 points of damage, two of which is electricity. Gotcha. Okay. Third attack. Come on, baby. of damage two of which is electricity gotcha okay uh third attack come on baby uh 96 on concealment and finishing it off a 39 to hit okay uh okay oh okay that is and none of this has any of your studied john on it right no. That's all without studied.
Starting point is 01:15:29 So that is 36 points of damage, six of which is electricity. Okay. All right. That was third. Fourth attack. Miss on concealments. Fifth attack. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:15:42 All right. That's a 51 on concealments. And a 34 to hit. That is a hit. Okay, that is 31 points of damage, two of which is electricity. Okay. Okay, final attack. Still? Surely won't hit.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Up. 100 on the concealment. And a natural one. This will be a fumble. Because this will be a fumble. It's the lowest to hit. That is a... Oh, God. Oh, God, no.
Starting point is 01:16:17 That is a 24. And now you get to hear the fumble, Baron, that you wanted to hear. Oh, God. Don't put this on me, Troy. I didn't want to hear this fumble. That was Grant that requested this fumble. Grant from New York. Grant Berger.
Starting point is 01:16:30 This is why we give Matthew so much guff, because I have a Patreon account just to be able to submit these fumbles. Grant Berger from 123 Mockingbird Lane. All right, this one from Alvin in Baltimore, Maryland. What's up, Alvin? How's it going, hon? Hey. Another day in the life of Joe. The universe pulls on the strings of luck.
Starting point is 01:16:53 If the player slash GM who rolled this fumble identifies as part of the O'Brien clan, Joe O'Brien or his family, then luck simply ignores you again and your attack is a miss. If you are not Joe O'Brien or his family, then luck simply ignores you again and your attack is a miss. If you are not Joe O'Brien, your attack misses and the shame you feel causes you to be sickened for 1D4 rounds. Will negates. Okay. So it's a sickened, sickened fumble.
Starting point is 01:17:14 All right. So if I rolled that fumble, it wouldn't have been a fumble. Wow. Or no worse. No worse for the wear. Will negates. Thank you, Alvin. Thanks, Alvin.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah. Will against the AC of the creature. This is tough. Yeah. That against the AC of the creature. This is tough. Yeah, that's a fail. All right, so 1d4 rounds there, Troy. 1d4 rounds of sickened. You know that minus two might be all it takes. Only one round.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Okay. One round of sickened. Sickened. Okay. Okay, that was Nestor's turn Six attacks A lot of hits After Baron was not able
Starting point is 01:17:50 It was 50% 50% concealment He hit 50% of the attacks Yeah Well rolled Alright Right in front of baron and nester you feel uh something come let me just make sure this isn't a complicated encounter to prep is it troy oh god i got such a headache
Starting point is 01:18:18 i don't think the bloody helped yeah no uh i need another one after this uh all right no you're just gonna feel um actually both of you give me a reflex save reflex spell spell like ability supernatural ability supernatural 39 32 you both pass and you both take one point of fire damage no they don't they don't take any fire damage they take none okay well you take take one point of fire damage. No, they don't. They don't take any fire damage. They take none. Okay. Well, you take a point off of the old.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Yeah. Your protection from energy. You're down to 119. Yeah. Take one off that and then roll another reflex save. Just don't roll a natural one. Come on, come on. 42. 39. This is reflex? Yeah. Okay. Three points of fire. 42 39
Starting point is 01:19:06 this is reflex yeah so you take three points of fire and you realize there's two more of these things
Starting point is 01:19:12 and they're right in front of you thereby blocking your ranged attacks into the room a little bit who's the summon monster can you summon
Starting point is 01:19:22 a bunch of low level low level yeah but how can these things see in deeper darkness? They're low-level, obviously, by their HP. Does he imbue them with true seeing? Do mephits have true seeing? I don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:19:33 They're like low-level creatures. I'll tell you after the show. It's Sir Will's turn. Big round for Slick Willy style. I smell the stink of hell on you. All right. Yeah, he's just going to swing away. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Just swinging in the darkness. This glowing sword that seems to be enveloped. Fumble. Darkness. Fumble. Fucking 45. And a natural one, which actually matters. Oh.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Shit. That actually matters. Yeah. Natural 18 on the confirm all right second swing 56 yes yes all right we got it 56 and a what to hit and a 30 i mean 40 47 it's it's so high Big old hit It's a big old hit It does 13 points of physical And 6 points of holy 13 points of physical 6 points of holy okay
Starting point is 01:20:35 Next attack is a Miss on concealment I just can't get these concealment rolls to go Well that's a 90 on concealment And Close one. That is a 30. 30? 30. Final
Starting point is 01:20:49 answer? Final answer. Miss. Fuck. Fuck! We'll never hit this in a million years. Ooh! 29. Ugh! Damn.
Starting point is 01:21:08 So I hit on multiple concealments and couldn't hit on the D20. Why don't we keep it going to the next round here? Shit, dude. Nine rounds of particulate form. Eight rounds of stalwart. Six rounds of corporeality. At this point, I should probably mention that we need to be getting pretty close on haste. Oh, yeah. Is it 16 rounds or yeah so i was considering it to be about two rounds before everything else that we were cast the the the slowest one there so maybe four rounds left of haste three three rounds left
Starting point is 01:21:39 to face somewhere in that range yeah three or four i'd say probably four it's okay more than you think but less than uh it's actually been a long because of the way we walked out of the room did a couple rounds out there and he didn't pursue uh yeah with these like 16 rounds things we just sort of like oh how great that you can have a high level combat that lasts over 10 rounds that's pretty cool yeah um okay metric the uh floor is yours uh the note the note the translucent nose and fingertips appear out of the wall again all right I'm gonna stick with this die I'm sticking with
Starting point is 01:22:12 the die the wand comes out this is quick and John or is this a spell regular me I don't have any more I don't have any more quick and magic rods yet left I rolled a fucking eight again I was gonna say roll To cast offensively
Starting point is 01:22:30 But it's automatic for you Yes and back into Groff Yeah man Up yours Groff I should leave it with the 8 up Yeah and then burn that Can you do anything else? Can you quicken the spell
Starting point is 01:22:46 no you're out of quickens for the day yeah I retreat back into the wall okay so it's getting to the point where it's not going to happen you're on your own all will be fine Nestor has one more round even remotely
Starting point is 01:23:02 close to that and this thing is so dead forever it's my turn We'll be fine. Nestor has one more round even remotely close to that, and this thing is so dead. Forever. It's my turn. I'm trying to decide which between these two spells I want to do. Before you make that decision, take eight points of bleed. You never took the four points you needed last time, and if you take any attacks, it will now be at a minus two. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Do I want to Dispel magic To make your Presumably your incorporality end And have you pop out of the wall Or do I want to try and dominate Nestor With my last dominate person Of the day
Starting point is 01:23:38 I want to step on your jam but you can't Target her she's behind a wall It's true As established So it just means Sir Will would lose his particular form or jam, but you can't target her. She's behind a wall. It's true. It's true. As established. So it just means Sir Will would lose his particular form, probably, depending on how I rolled. Or one of the other buffs you have on you.
Starting point is 01:23:55 A lot of buffs. You do have a lot of buffs. I'm going to dominate Nestor. Yeah, that... Or attempt to. That means you don't have to roll any of the spellcraft or detect magic checks that you set up. Yeah, now that I realize that, I've painted myself
Starting point is 01:24:09 in a coin. Spell magic seems like a real pain in the ass. But it was Nestor's bad will save on the save against that fumble that made me think it's time to unleash the last one of the day. And we're also 100% sure that he doesn't have protection from evil on him right this was never cast on him the dominate i it was cast on metra
Starting point is 01:24:32 and baron and i think that's it right the protection from evil no the dominate oh you never tried to dominate nester no i never tried to dominate nester i tried baron in the first time and then then Metro the second time. And this is a spell. This is an enchantment spell. This is a spell that Breaking Enchantment would work against. Yeah. Hopefully, if Nestor fails, you'll be able to cast that before Nestor straight up kills Baron.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Or Baron straight up kills Nestor. Or vice versa. It's going to be a will save, Nestor. Okay. So the sicken going to be a will save, Nestor. Okay. So the sickened lowers my fucking will save. Thanks a lot, Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:25:11 It's a great city. You know Ray Lewis was a murderer, right? All right. Let's see. I just feel this. I'm so tense. I've got a bad feeling
Starting point is 01:25:24 about this. Okay. That's a natty 15 25 That is a pass Yes Oh my god Oh thank god Oh my god
Starting point is 01:25:36 That would have been ridiculous Wow So bad I had it in the chamber I'm like Gotta wait for the right moment So terrifying that prospect is so terrifying yeah oh yeah that's why i went after i think i went after baron right at the
Starting point is 01:25:51 beginning of the content come back because i'm like if i get baron on my side he's gonna kill all of you um that would have been a great end to the story baron was the the b BBG and then and then Baron shoots himself right oh god that's sad and then there were none Matthew Baron shoots he gets so depressing when he drinks
Starting point is 01:26:11 when he comes to and realizes what he's done he puts uh dragon's breath in his own mouth you know the end
Starting point is 01:26:19 and the end things don't end the way you expect here at the Glass Cannon Network I really didn't see that coming nobody here at the glass cannon network he was really spoiled a twist for you yeah at the end of the glass cannon 305 episodes you you're gonna be surprised dragon breath didn't play a large part in the story up until that point god that would make my life so much easier all right uh in in the next iteration of glass canner you're just gonna keep us all like
Starting point is 01:26:53 you're just never gonna let us level up right that way you can keep everything at like max 10th level max cr12 or something here's what i would do i tried to dominate and now you uh feel the darkness receding back into uh the previous room the salon i think i called it salon so now you run in fear so now actually uh baron Nestor, you see two Mephits. One directly in front of Baron that emerged as the darkness receded. And one about 15 feet away from Nestor in a straight line. And the darkness has receded. Sir Will and Metro are still bathed in darkness.
Starting point is 01:27:41 But the rest of you can see see and it is baron's turn uh since baron is flush on grit points after killing those two methods uh he's going to spend one as a move action to quick quick clear his gun oh wow and that's a good point remove the broken condition from it. Sweet. And he'll take a shot as a standard action at the mephit immediately in front of him as his only attack this round. Yes. Yes. That is a 35 to hit touch AC for 30 points of damage.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Okay. It tries to attack you, and it misses and explodes. What's the entirety of Baron's turn? Because of the quick clear. Maybe you shouldn't have rolled a natural one last time. I regret it even to this very moment, Joe. Still thinking about that. Blow these 15 minutes later.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Blow these 15 minutes. It is now Nestor's turn, Nestor. You get the sense that your enemy has receded. Given that sense, Nestor is going to wait for Metra to do her fucking job and reveal this thing. He's kidding. I heard that. That's Nestor. That's not me. This little guy moves
Starting point is 01:29:13 up between you, me, and the walls. If these walls could talk. If they could. Little method flies up and will method flies up and we'll What kind of armor are you and Nestor wearing?
Starting point is 01:29:37 Leather. Leather? Mithril. Mithril. It's not metal, huh? Mithril. Mithril's not metal. Mithril isril. Mithril's not metal. Mithril is metal. It's just really light metal. We made a nice little reference earlier.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Well, the one that flies up will fly actually right up in front of Baron and go to touch your gun and cast heat metal on it. Okay, go for it. I do it. Oh, go for it. I do it. Oh, that is cool. And I want you to roll... I think it's the gun that gets the save. Yeah, but it's the wielder's save.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Magical metal is allowed a saving throw against the spell, and I am the creature's possession uses the creature's saving throw bonus. Go for it. The thing is that you're going to do this. You're committed to this you're committed to this action now my weapon is fire forged steel which means that it channels heat away from the wearer uh so my weapon will absorb and channel heat to parts of the weapon that contact enemies if i were to touch them if the weapon is exposed to 10 points or more fire damage, it sucks that in. So what is your spell doing?
Starting point is 01:30:46 It's heating the metal so that it won't get warm in your hand, and eventually every round that you hold it, it starts to do more and more damage to your hand. Okay. What am I rolling? That is going to be a will save. It's the classic low-level spell that's fantastic when used correctly. I used it once, I think, in... It must have been Giant. Wrath of the Righteous, I think.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah, it can be really cool. And it's a spell? Yeah, spell. 37. 37. Pass. What's the spell? Heat Metal?
Starting point is 01:31:16 Heat Metal. You used it against me. It wasn't against you? It was the Uyghur fight, wasn't it? No, you used it against Galabras. Oh, I thought it was when I had him in. Oh, no, it was my armoriga fight wasn't it no usually against galabras oh no it was my armor it was i was cooking in my armor cooking alive i forgot
Starting point is 01:31:30 about that you were cooking alive we couldn't find the oiga it was invisible it was that was the day god that was the worst day of my life that was the worst it was awful
Starting point is 01:31:37 it doesn't even do a ton of damage but at low levels like for rounds three through five you take 2d4 damage and i think i was rolling like four oh yeah yeah i think it's also incredibly annoying at this level which works for a method yeah if it's
Starting point is 01:31:49 supposed to be just a little irritating yeah yeah that's exactly what they are and that's why you're wiping them out so easily uh that is the methods turn and it comes back to sir will sir will you felt that presence walk away from you, but you could not. Have it your way, coward. What did you call me? We will sniff you out.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Find him, Lexington. What? Lexington's like, Lexington, is the creature within 30 feet excellent question glad you asked no you have to make everything so god damn
Starting point is 01:32:36 why don't you walk into the room pain in the ass alright so he walks into the room uh uh how far do you go until i fucking bump into it i don't know he'll go uh let's go 30 feet 5 10 15 20 25 30 now you're in the room on that 30th foot step and lexington smells it to the south so it went in and around the corner. Alright, then I'll move south. Alright, how much more movement do you have?
Starting point is 01:33:10 20 more. Well, no. I have 80 because I haste. Alright, so at 35 you realize if you go 40 feet it's right there. It's right there. That provokes for the record. Sure does. Alright, you know what I'm gonna do actually well that doesn't
Starting point is 01:33:27 really matter because you can still can you take a five foot step in darkness no uh yeah no you don't know or you know no i don't believe you can't you can't you can't we look i looked this up a couple sessions ago you cannot take a five foot oh well then we forgot that when i took a five foot step to I wasn't. Yeah. Cast Leon Hanzo at Metro. Oh, yeah, that's right. Well, whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I just would have provoked. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, I'll take the shot. I'm due to hit you now, I feel like. I'll take the AO. Come on. Come on!
Starting point is 01:34:01 No. 29. Okay. Okay. Then he'll move up until Good boy, Lexington Let's finish this fight There we go 37 to hit, 72 on concealment
Starting point is 01:34:17 Nice That is 12 points of physical And 7 points of holy Okay Second attack 12 points of physical and 7 points of holy. Okay. Second attack. Bam. Oh, so close to critical threat.
Starting point is 01:34:36 But it's definitely a hit with 64 concealment. And you get to take all these attacks even though you moved because it's Lexington's movement? Yeah, because of mounted skirmisher, the feat that I have. Okay. Movement? Yeah, because of mounted skirmisher, the feat that I have. Awesome. That is 15 points of physical and 7 points of holy. Okay. Swings again. Miss on concealment.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Now it's going to get to the hard spot, natural one. There it is. To confirm. To confirm. Confirm fumble with a 29. 29. Where's that Joe O'Brien fumble when you need it? Oh, for God's sakes. I hope it's not really bad.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Oh, man. I just really want to finish this thing off. You're doing great. All right. Leonardo from Las Vegas. I'm Leonardo. Comes in with, dang it, I think I pulled something. Question mark.
Starting point is 01:35:32 You over swung your weapon and the miss made you pull a muscle in your main arm. The player that fumbles rolls a fortitude save for a minus two to all attack rolls and skill checks that require the use of your dominant hand. On a fail, this penalty lasts for 1d4 plus 1 rounds on a success that lasts only 1 round. Okay. So it's a 4 to 3. It's still a DC 30. You know what?
Starting point is 01:35:53 I'm not the one that usually has problems with these, but I want to point out that made sense top to bottom. Pulled something totally sensible. That was a fantastic, logical fumble. Yes. Yes. That's why it's in the list yeah the ones that stink don't make it i'm just kidding i read for that i read the one that stink too it's gonna get so angry uh that i made it with a 40 and then uh so it's one round of so my remaining attack has a minus two uh So you and Nestor were both shaken for one round. I have to roll a natural 20 to hit.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Natural 19. 20. Nine. Because of the minus two. If that was a 31, would it hit? I can tell you. I rolled a 59. That would have been it.
Starting point is 01:36:38 I rolled a 59 on concealment. Son of a bitch. Critical threat, too, right? Critical threat. Son of a bitch. Oh, right critical threat son of a bitch oh that's so painful you know what let's go to the top of the next round but first that's eight rounds in particular for him left
Starting point is 01:36:51 seven rounds of still but oh man that's stalwart that's gonna get bad but it's gonna get bad we have to finish this fight if she gets hit once that could be enough when stalwart wears off to just die inside the wall she's gonna have she's got 60 some points will she yes well she takes 120 hit points of damage well then she would die yes
Starting point is 01:37:12 and you would just be a fossil it is now your turn fossil john fossil let's give this another try. It's a 2020 joke. Come on. Okay. Come on, Matthew. Natural 19. There you go! There you go! It's over! Oh, my gosh. We'll show it next week!
Starting point is 01:37:36 And this national right there. Oh, I can't wait to see this horrible thing! Oh, and just to see the room! All right, so you have not seen anything, right? No. This is amazing. Oh, and just to see the room. All right, so you have not seen anything, right? No. This is amazing. Oh, no. Because the way this has worked now, for three episodes, you've just been fighting something you can't see. What is it?
Starting point is 01:37:59 I'll start by revealing a little bit of this room over here. Oh, look at that room. And a little bit of this room over here. Oh, look at that room. And a little bit of this room over here. Maybe a little bit over here. We've been in all these rooms. Where's Sir Will? And now I will reveal what you see.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Oh! What the fuck? There's 40 of them. Oh my god! You see seven of these. Oh my God. You see seven of these. Oh my God. All like sort of in the same space moving around.
Starting point is 01:38:31 That's what's been happening. I've been hitting mirror images of this thing when I've been shooting it. Well, what I understand, the mirror images don't matter. So I have not ticked off any of the mirror images. You've just been missing. Oh, right, right, right. If you can't see it, the mirror images don't uh it don't it doesn't matter so i have not ticked off any of the mirror images you've just been oh right right if you can't see it the mirror images don't matter yeah may i say okay they can either not matter or they can go away no i just if you miss by five or i let all the hits get through and because it's almost like an aoe as nester and baron started hitting i was like
Starting point is 01:39:03 you know what i should look at mirror image and be like, are they actually hitting the images? Or where they don't see the illusion, are they not subject to the illusion? And it's like the last sentence in the spell is like, you have to see the illusion to be affected by it. So he actually hamstrung himself by having mirror image in deeper darkness. So I was rooting for you to cast this because he was getting lit up instead of knocking off mirror images. But look at this fucking creature. This is going to be two more episodes long. This ebb and skinned monstrosity has a gaping maw with boar-like tusks and a wide nose beneath a furrowed brow that lacks any sort of eyes or visible visual organs.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Its corded muscles twist and writhe beneath its smooth, hairless jet hide, giving its frame a gnarled, unbalanced asymmetry. It moves with a loping gait, however, and wears its armor composed of thick, wielded
Starting point is 01:40:02 plates effortlessly. In its hand is an adamantine warhammer. Oh, that cuts through my DR. Wow. Look at that. It's got a strange foot, too. Like, its right foot is misshapen somehow or something? That might be, dude.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Did you try to clone stamp out the name tag and it looked like that, that foot? It's possible. Yeah, that's right. Chalk it up to the asymmetry. Okay. Okay. Now that you see more of the room, you do see in the southern portion, Sir Will, you can see beyond these seven images what looks like a throne. You sit on a throne of lies.
Starting point is 01:40:43 There's this. It looks like it used to be something else And it was turned into a throne It's like a fireplace That was carved out of a single chunk of marble Now vaguely resembling An upside down morning star Dominating the southwest corner
Starting point is 01:40:58 It's exposed chimney Solemnly rising towards the massive Paneled ceiling Remember this room The ceiling in the chamber is over 100 feet high. Oh, awesome. So you can just fly up there and rain down hell. This is going to be great. Well, how tall is it and how much reach is it?
Starting point is 01:41:15 It's 100 feet high, the ceiling. Creature is what? It's going to be a giant, so 20 feet tall with a 25-foot reach. You're good. You're good. Yeah, I believe it is a gargantuan creature. I believe. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:41:32 No, it is. It is a gargantuan creature. I'm looking to see. They stand over 50 feet tall. Wow. Just barely. So it has to be in a 100-foot room to just feel comfortable. And they weigh over 25 tons.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Wow. Oh, my God. And right now there's seven of them? And right now there's seven of them. And just right in front of the seven of them is this halfling on a wolf. Yeah. If you were looking at it the way we're looking at it, Mr. Will is kind of nestled in a cove of multiples of this creature.
Starting point is 01:42:04 I love doing that from your image, just throwing them all up there because it just seems more imposing, especially with a creature like this. Alright. Metro, anything else? Yeah, I will move into the... You know what? I can't move into the room without incurring, right?
Starting point is 01:42:19 No, I remind you... You're all the way up at the top. I'm somewhere in the wall. Oh yeah, I can show you where you are, Metro. You're all the way up at the top. Yeah. I'm somewhere in the wall. Oh, yeah. I can show you where you are, Metro. You're right there. You were right to the north there. Can I slip into the room?
Starting point is 01:42:30 No, I can fly through the wall. So I will fly through the wall and enter the room. Okay. I just left the one there. So you see the actual space that it takes up. So you fly out of the wall. And up. And up.
Starting point is 01:42:40 So I'm basically like, I don't know, what, 40 feet in the air in the room? Okay. Great. That was Metra's turn, and now it's its turn. Actually, I'm gonna take my turn. No, no, no. I'll let it take its turn. You sure? Okay. We'll take
Starting point is 01:43:00 four points of damage at the top of its turn. Four points of damage at the top of its turn. Minus three to hit now. Minus three to hit now. Minus three to hit, and that means creatures against it have total concealment because the blood has got in its eyes. Right, Farron? But didn't you just say in the description
Starting point is 01:43:15 that it seemed like it didn't? Yeah, it has blindsight. That's what I was going to say. I wasn't too worried about that portion. So here we go. This thing, minus three to attack attack and it's going to unleash all the attacks on sir will because its back is against the wall so with blind sight does it still need to roll it just gets an extra chance if it fails think blind sense you have to roll
Starting point is 01:43:37 but blind sight you just go invisibly darkness and most kinds of concealment are irrelevant um so yeah i think i'm okay because he doesn't really have eyes i don't think he should take the minus three to hit you yeah i think you're fine on the to hit this is like having blood in your eyes ah yeah he doesn't have a flavor of the spell anyway so yeah i have yet to hit you sir will four attacks perhaps the last four of my life who knows you've hit me once i don't remember first attack this can be close a lot of damage left you know i've left power attack on this entire time i should have pulled it off just so i could land more of these but i forgot uh this sorry troy off the armor yeah wow that's that's pretty awful uh okay so it's really miss on the second attack miss uh lies uh 30 is a miss yeah and then final attack is the bite
Starting point is 01:44:39 miss on the bite power attack on uh three of those would have I had the power attack on. Three of those would have been hits without power attack. Okay, so it unleashes on Sir Will and does not hit. It is Baron's turn. Now, meanwhile, Baron and Nestor. Nestor still has to go if he wants to come. You guys are far away,
Starting point is 01:44:59 and you still have one of those annoying little methods there. Yeah, and Baron and Nestor have been working with each other long enough to understand our relative strengths in battle. And Nestor is having range with his bow and arrow. So Baron is just going to say, I'm going to clear this out for you so you can go. Bam! Fire once at the Meffet. Out of the box. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:45:18 That is a 32 to hit against Touch AC. Yep. And that will be 26 points of damage. Splat! Splat! Splat! Splat! And Baron will move forward 60 feet.
Starting point is 01:45:30 60 feet into the room. Still haste active. Well, I have boots of striding and springing, so that should be... How much additional range does haste give you?
Starting point is 01:45:41 Third, it doubles your speed up to 30 feet. Right? Increases all of your speed by by 30 feet sure it increases by 30 feet to a maximum of twice your normal speed oh okay so it's 40 feet for me still if it's that's my base speed right yeah it's double your base speed okay so i maybe moved but i double moved in the instances i didn't use the full length of what we were saying earlier, so I think I'm fine for this combat,
Starting point is 01:46:07 based off what's happened. Alright, so you slide about halfway into that middle room there, between the room where you were treated to and the great salon. And it's Nestor's turn. The Mephits are gone. All that remains is this horrible,
Starting point is 01:46:23 horrible extraplanar creature. Okay okay so nester is going to use his once per day slayers advance talent to move twice his base speed hasted into the room below metra flies through like qui-gon and obiWan at the beginning of that movie that they were in. The best one. The best Star Wars movie, in other words. And he's going to take one. And he's finally going to study Tog. And he says, there you are, my beauty.
Starting point is 01:46:57 And take one shot. That is a 33 to hit. That is a hit. Roll. That is a hit. Roll a D8. Okay. And it will hit on an eight. Five. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:13 One of the images. One image down. One of the images goes away. Nestor has entered the building. Nestor has entered the building. It is now Sir Will's turn. Right next to these seven of these things. Seven images, one dude.
Starting point is 01:47:31 All right. He will swing away. Let's dance. Doing the math. All right. First swing is a 33. So that is a hit. That is a hit.
Starting point is 01:47:44 And I roll a d8. Roll a d8, re-roll on an 8. Hits on a 7. Roll a d8, re-roll on an 8, hits on a 7. 7! Oh! You almost want to hit, especially with this low damage. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:58 That is 12 points of physical and 10 points of holy. 10 points of physical, 10 points of holy. 10 points of physical, 12 points of holy? 12 points of physical, 10 points of holy. And it's dead. Oh, yes! Yes!
Starting point is 01:48:15 I see through your ruse, creature. Yes! And we'll see you next week. Oh, my God. God, we're done with that. That is amazing. Oh, God. God, we're done with that. That is amazing. Wow. Rose light for the Rose
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