The Glass Cannon Podcast - Giantslayer Episode 310 - Face the Rainbow 3: Snake and the Gat Man
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Last week on the Glass Cannon podcast. I think I am going to use my bottle cap i have to pull out
all the stops okay so that'll give you a plus eight as the slayer fought against the charms
of the naga the gunslinger means to kill me take him out and you fight against that urge sorry
sorry love the knight continued his descent into insanity.
And he starts to, like, move to attack Nestor, and Lexington won't allow it.
Lexington, follow my orders!
And he just smashes Lexington.
Oh, no. With the butt of his pants.
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The adventure continues.
And it looks like this.
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No. Now listen, where last week may have been the first Giant Slayer episode of the new year,
today is the first Giant Slayer recording of the new year.
And I just want to say one thing.
My holidays were amazing.
My New Year's was amazing amazing and do you know why do you know one of the
many reasons that it was so great chocolate why because i didn't have to play pathfinder
that's just not nice at all i see here i was looking forward to today yeah i was too
i think that that's why yeah i'm excited to play yeah no
i yeah i think we've been working we've been doing so much of this especially over the last year and
i think that a break was warranted and badly needed when i left last session i drove home
with one mantra i hate this fucking game i hate it i hate it i hate it. I hate it. I hate it so much. And it's not the game's fault.
It's not the game's fault.
It's the,
it's our fault.
It's our,
well,
it's Matthew.
So that's what I see.
I see it.
Or a little bit of Joe's going to be sprinkled in there.
It's mostly Matthew and Joe's fault.
Yeah,
no,
I,
I don't hate it.
I don't hate it.
I'm actually very excited to play today.
And that's what you need.
You need some space.
We never get the space.
We never get the space. We recorded skids game the other day it was just
nice to get back in the flow yeah but in the throes of it there's a lot of reasons why i don't enjoy
it the same way i used to uh and uh part of it is the people that are angry at the way we play the
game you know it's one thing to have a backseat GM. It's another thing to have thousands of backseat GMs.
And that's what I have, which is whatever.
It doesn't bother me because like, well, no, it does bother me.
It clearly does.
It doesn't bother you?
Well, here's why it bothers me.
He's so unbothered.
Look at him.
Here's why it bothers me.
I've never seen someone so unbothered.
I know.
He's so calm.
Look at his face.
Here's why it bothers me.
It doesn't bother me because I'm like, I'm not.
Is Troy asleep right now?
Let me explain.
There are people who listen to the show that don't give a fuck when we mess up rules.
And to those people, I love you more than anyone else that listens to this show.
But there are people who get really upset when we screw up rules.
And I still want to provide
a good experience for them and it's difficult it is very difficult to do those two things
especially because we don't have a lot of experience with high level play but it's also
hard because i think you guys uh we play a different game i want to make things as hard
as possible and i think you guys and this is not a uh a comment on you want to make things as hard as possible. And I think you guys, and this is not a comment on you,
want to make things as easy as possible.
And I think that sort of back and forth between us
creates a sort of powder keg
where there's just a lot of gamesmanship going on
where I'm like, I don't want to make the ruling that I want to make because I don't want to upset my friends. And then sometimes I do on where I'm like, I don't want to make the ruling that I want
to make because I don't want to upset my friends.
And then sometimes I do things and I'm like, man, that wasn't the right.
I'm making bad tactical decisions because I don't want to make Grant angry or something
like that.
And then like other times I'm making rules decisions that I feel like are the right rules.
And I'll be like, Joe will be like, oh yeah, you sure about that?
You sure you're doing that right?
And that doesn't help. that doesn't help me it's one thing to have joe schmoe on the subreddit
complaint sometimes you are doing it wrong but like that's my mistake to make yeah and then you
go oh yes true thank you true but sometimes you're just like no you sure about that i'm like i am
sure about that and and that's when it gets like it gets annoying so just so i'm
clear yeah you no longer wish to be questioned no i want to be never wanted to be questioned i want
to be questioned what frustrated me by you yeah not by you not by joe or any of the people that
listen or anyone listening as long as no one ever questions me we should be let's just get a list
an approved list of questioners well i think that
would allow us here's like the people allowed to sit in uh in the white house briefings right like
the press that's allowed security like another thing that annoyed me is like last session i
edited the show and i knew i was like this is gonna be a fucking annoying edit because what
the audience doesn't listen to is all the times we stopped and restarted it with me being like i
fucked that up or like oh no you can't do i gotta go back and do this and i'm just like i don't enjoy playing it
this way because i'm so concerned about trying to get it right and when we fuck up i gotta go back
and redo things it just gets fucking annoying because i want to do it right um but then there's
times where i'm like i'm doing this right and people are still giving me shit. Like Charm Person, for example.
I'm doing it correctly.
If you don't like it, I'm sorry.
But this is how Order of the Amber Dye did it.
Now listen, I think I clarified it last week that it's not like Dominate Person.
It's just that Nestor is the Naga's new friend,
and if Baron's going to try and kill the Naga,
Nestor is going to stop it without trying to kill Baron, but he might accidentally kill Baron, like
what happened in the Order of the Amber
Die game. So if you're telling me I'm
wrong, then you're
telling me that the guys that know this game
better than anybody are wrong.
I would like to offer a
perspective, but I would not like to step
on your axe if you're not done grinding it.
No, no, I've got plenty of axe to grind but i i need a break i think the thing that you should keep in mind yes
is that the experience we're offering our listeners the way i always describe the show to
know as someone who's never listened to it before is not that we are the best pathfinder players
that ever existed no you don't just say you're a mailman and walk away that's what i do that would save me that is a way better alternative that explains why you drove that
white jeep to the recording today to see the driver's wheel on the wrong side
mortgage process
like what do you do giving a loan to what
the thing i want money from the bank Yeah, sure. It's like, what do you do? You're not giving a loan to what?
The thing I always say. You want money from the bank?
I always say we are trying to simulate the experience of you sitting around with your friends playing games.
It's as if you're at a table of your close buddies playing this game you all enjoy.
Are you going to get everything right?
No.
Are you going to try to get everything right?
Yes. Are you going to try to learn and get better? Yes. But are you going to get everything right? No. Are you going to try to get everything right? Yes.
Are you going to try to learn and get better?
Yes.
But are you going to continually mess up?
Sure.
And that's what happens in a lot of people's games.
Yeah.
The problem is with a lot of these myopic listeners is that when we get something wrong,
wrong equals it's bad, you're a bad person, and you should die.
I don't think that's actually true.
I think you're overthinking it a bit.
Have you guys seen Ted Lasso?
You caught him on Ted Lasso?
No, we haven't.
Ted Lasso season two.
We need to hire a team therapist.
And we need to slowly break Troy down.
Just like how Ted Lasso doesn't want to see her for the longest time.
And then he finally has it.
And then he relents.
It's like it's his number one plot for most of that season.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I would like to take
an argument to something that you said earlier you defined our relationship and i think it would
might there might be another layer to it that you're not really factoring in i guess it could
be oversimplified as being we like the game easy and you like the game hard i don't necessarily
agree i think you're paraphrasing what i said well that's
kind of that's what you said i'm saying that i do you have it on this recorded
i'm all hearsay at this point there's no way to prove what anyone said or didn't say i believe
that we like to have fun playing the game and you hate us having fun playing the game well it's just
like that's where the that that clash keeps coming there's a problem with consistency though right
because if we're trying to do it by the book then it doesn't allow for as much leeway with fun and
if you get to have fun then why can't i have fun do you know what i mean like there's it's hard to stay consistent with that if i'm having fun you need to be having fun that's the
gm's job if the players are having fun no you're doing it right i understand but i think that this
game's rules are too restrictive to allow for too much mamby pambiness uh at this point in the game
yeah but the rules restrictiveness level is determined solely by you.
And you, if that's the way it's going to be,
then we just shouldn't, you know,
kind of be in your game.
But that said, I mean,
there's definitely work to be done.
I think that I'm personally getting better at it.
I've been trying.
I think I'm getting better at liking the challenge.
What I don't like, I like challenge. I like difficulty. What I don't like, I like challenge.
I like difficulty.
What I don't like is unfun challenge.
Yeah, but you have no consistency because you'll be like, that's not the rules.
But then I'll be like, all right, roll to see if you hit Lexington or Baron.
You're like, he would never hit Lexington.
I'm like, well, maybe he would.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but then I did.
You did.
But your gut reaction was like, well, I wouldn't hit Lexington.
I would only try to kill Barrington.
Barrington.
Barrington.
So Barrington.
You know what I mean?
Like, you were probably the least consistent of all because you're Irish.
Yes.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Remember how we had to define ad hominem?
The other day?
Yeah.
That hasn't come out yet.
That hasn't come out yet. It'll be out soon enough. You all can look forward to that. raiders of the last anyway i think you make way i think you make way too much out of these criticisms online it's ridiculous you're both exactly the
same amount of inconsistent yes that's you are exactly the same and you're both chasing your
own satisfaction which is fine but like to say that you are any more consistent than Joe
is not the case.
Do you know what you do, Grant?
I'm going to do you.
Oh, you can take three attacks in a row
without provoking the attack of opportunity?
That's cool.
I didn't know you could do that.
That's the Grant.
That's the Grant.
Passive-aggressive.
I think you got the rule wrong.
You got the rule wrong, I think,
but I'm not going to say anything.
Maybe if I say it this way,
you'll Google to make sure.
And every time I do... And then I just let it go.
Could I throw one more thing into the pot?
Please, please.
It's a fun pot.
It's a fun pot.
I think you feel attacked by this online criticism.
Sure.
But I don't care about- And by your player like, I don't care about end by your player,
but I don't care about me.
We have a very successful business.
What I care about is creating an experience that everyone will enjoy.
And right now there is a small,
very small,
uh,
lonely group of people who don't enjoy the show.
And,
uh,
I want them to enjoy it too.
Do you see movies that get anything less than a hundred percent on Metacrit Rotten Tomatoes or a 10.0 on those things and think they're failures because they didn't get absolutely universal acclaim?
Because I think we're in.
I'm not trying to say you're bad or wrong or anything here.
That's how I think.
Yeah, I know.
I'm trying to say this was the argument.
I think you might be bad.
It's just effectively doing.
No, no, no.
But if a movie gets like 87% on Metacritic and the critics that you care about.
That's a spectacularly good film.
Right.
And if we're around that same area, like, why aren't you happy with that same one?
In the past year, I've seen 65 Hallmark movies and Spider-Man Far From Home.
And Spider-Man Far From Home was the worst of all those movies.
So, bad example example but with games with
video games i uh yeah if it's not a 10 out of 10 it better be a very high 9 out of 10 across the
board well here's the thing the it's a very basic concept that i i'm sure that you would agree with
i just don't understand why well your perfectionist thing is always there like, you know that it is going to drive one absolutely out of their mind to try to please everybody.
We know that.
And in fact, what you're going to do is displease all of the people that already like what you're doing.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
You know, this very conversation, I bet there's plenty of people that don't't ever care are rolling their eyes like no one gives a shit about the rules.
Just laugh and have fun and play the game.
The majority.
Yeah.
Right.
So like, why are you turning them off now trying to please the other ones?
You can't please everybody.
May I continue with my ladle?
Yes, sir.
Oh, it sounds like you feel attacked by these people and you and you're equating that with
you made this mistake.
You're a bad person.
I would argue that's not necessarily what they're saying.
But what I'd argue the greater point here is I don't necessarily think that decreases their level of enjoyment.
Like for some people, like they want to have a critical eye.
This is their most fun thing.
They want to have a critical eye.
They want to consume the things they consume with a critical eye, much as you do.
Yeah, sure, sure.
And I think that they get to voice those opinions online, it's fine.
I also think like-
And it gives them a moment they can feel superior.
It's just like, I know more than these guys who are like the show I listen to and I can point out their flaws.
Yeah, and I mean, how many times have we learned from that in a positive way?
For sure.
That we've been like, oh, holy holy shit i never knew that spell was third
party i would never have known stalwart was third party if you know it wasn't uh shouted out on
there so i i do think that there are some people that bring a tone that is just like oh you're just
an angry person uh and then there's some people that are just like honestly you know wanting to
help yeah and you're diligent about checking checking this oh i read everything i read everything which is you know which has some
pros and cons but i like to learn i like to get my finger on the pulse of what people uh like and
don't like but i don't change anything based on that i just take it in uh i push it down i push
it down push it down until a bitter little ball until i explode like this at the beginning of the show most of
my feces is black i add it to my collection of ulcers the rest is bloody you know i guess it's
just stressful because the stakes are as we get closer to the end of this i feel like the stakes
are so impossibly high and that's just because what i put on myself is why i'm like violently
ill before every live show um i just i wanted i want to do a good job you know you want to i know
we'll stick the landing story wise and that's really all i care about but uh. I want to do a good job. I know we'll stick to landing story-wise,
and that's really all I care about,
but I just want to make sure that
we're as diligent as we can with the rules.
And I'm mad at myself when I have to edit
like last week's episode.
I'm like, man, if I just hadn't have fucked that up,
this would have been an easier edit and a cleaner show
and a more enjoyable experience for us at the table.
Like, I didn't enjoy last week's episode because i
kept fucking stuff up most of which didn't even make air it's just it's hard because there is
this tension especially at higher levels of getting these increasingly more complex rules
right and maintaining the flow of the story yeah and you know drama that you know active and
everything yeah you know what troy you're doing a good job You're doing a good job. You are doing a good job.
The thing is,
I appreciate that, but I don't need that.
We've established this rivalry here,
this sort of antagonistic relationship
as players with your GM style, that we
don't say enough that
you do do an amazing job at this.
That's very nice of you, and I appreciate that.
And I know you don't need it.
You don't need it, but it
still needs to be said, I think of you. And I appreciate that. And I know you don't need it. You don't need it, but it still needs
to be said, I think. Thank you. I appreciate
that, Skip. And all of you out there
with your snide comments that
he says that you make,
you also should tell
him how good he is.
Sometimes, you know? Can we get a Troy appreciation
thread for once? Would that kill you?
Would it murder your family?
Would your family die if you said something nice about
troy on these message boards wherever they are come on people well no let me just say something
real fast this is all bringing up a lot of like self-introspection not only as a player but when
i've gm'd and stuff uh and i i it's just it's a lot easier said than done. When you are in it and you are doing it, it is almost impossible to get everything right.
Because there's two, A, there's too much to get right.
Yeah.
B, there's too much action happening.
And you don't want to stop the flow of the action as a GM.
The players are moving, the action's moving, and you don't want to break that up constantly.
Sometimes that stuff, the action is at odds with the rules.
Right, exactly. And you have to like make a call call and then you find out that you screwed up a rule and i'm not saying that just like don't let it bother you it's just rules it doesn't matter even
though that's how i feel i know exactly how frustrating it is when you mess up a rule that
really impacts your enjoyment in a negative way whether it's you should have made something harder for the players
or you should have made something easier for the players.
It can go either way, where you screwed it up and you're like,
you have to undo this fiction that you had started to create.
It creates a lot of stress.
And I've gotten very angry as a GM, too, of mistakes I've made.
And there's no easy solution.
I think it's part of the game.
It's hard. It's also stressful because, like, I don't think I've made. And there's no easy solution. I think it's part of the game. It's hard.
It's also stressful because, like, I don't think I've made this a secret.
I'm actively trying to kill some of you in this combat.
And I don't want to do that because of a fudge.
You know what I mean?
If someone's going to die, I want to make sure that I did everything as clean as possible.
But I'll tell you what really is the is the stem the the the heart of all
this because at the end of the day i enjoy playing this game with my friends it's our game you know
what i mean and uh if we're having fun that's all that matters um obviously we want to be successful
with it but what bothers me is when there's only so many channels for our fans to engage and you
go on these channels and it's a lot of just bitching and complaining and
like, you know. Well, that's
what you're highlighting. There is a lot
of other great stuff. I think
there actually was a Troy Appreciation post
at least once or twice. No, I
understand that, but like, I want
our fans who enjoy
the show, who don't give a shit about this, to be able
to engage. And I think they come on to
and they're like, I'm not going anywhere into the separated and the people i mean i don't even
want to go on the discord or at least not the the fan run discord and that's that's a bummer for me
because like i want our fans to be able to engage more and i think a couple of let's call them bad
apples are making it harder for people to do that with their constant like uh criticism i don't care
about you can also bother me yeah but that criticism
also attracts people in who come in and say no actually i disagree and i think it was awesome
for sure that didn't exist people who are on reddit in the first place are there for
spirited debate yeah you know some people take it too far but like they're there because they
want to get into these conversations yeah it's like it's like troy shows up to tiktok and it's
like why aren't these people wearing more clothing?
I don't understand.
I wanted to see more of that.
Why was it so short?
I guess it's just this like...
All these videos.
It's this obsessive need to try and...
It really cut off there.
It all comes from this...
This movie theater is only showing feature length things.
It all comes from this obsessive need
to want to make the fan experience
as amazing as possible from start to finish.
And as we continue to grow, there's going to be more and more people.
I mean, we just made this huge announcement that the stream of Blood Crew is coming over.
I don't want these very kind people to be turned off by some of the people who just take it a little too far.
Because it really, I say it doesn't bother me because it doesn't bother me personally.
It bothers me as a business owner and as an entertainer because I'm trying to put on the best show as possible.
And I want to make sure that everyone enjoys it and that people continue to engage with our content without being like, oh, man, these couple of these guys, all they care about is that guy.
Yeah, but Troy, they are engaged.
They are the thing
that's why for me because it does bother me when i read stuff like that that's why i had to just
back away from any feedback i like i i don't i i i don't look at the facebook page i don't look at
the message boards i don't look at comments on anything on the videos like i that nothing i had
to back away completely because i really took that stuff to
heart and it hurt me and it got me very angry and it was bad for my mental health so i had to just
quit completely and it's like maybe it's like now i'm not like as attuned to things that i could be
doing better like any of the shows but like i had to do it yeah because it was just like it did
bother me like so much so it's i'm i i don't i like i couldn't do what you do i mean i also want to point out
we're making something for public consumption there you're never going to have a one as
grant was playing you're never going to have 100 of people feeling one way or the other but if you
have but if you have an incredibly engaged community that's the thing then you're doing
something right i think you're not like if you're gonna i i think you're saying i think you're
saying something that you should aspire to which is like is like, you don't want to try to cater to one side or the other.
You want to create the best experience you can.
And I think that's what you, it's always been your mission.
And I think we can always learn more rules.
I can learn more rules.
I can read more spells.
But I think ultimately, like, we're making something for public consumption.
People are going to feel ways about it.
Yeah, and that's good.
And I know that.
I think it's trying to balance that with this just innate perfectionism that is difficult.
Yeah, I agree.
Have you ever taken an approach to it like you do sometimes to, like, Whole30 and other diets?
Have you ever been like, I'm not going to look for a week.
I'm not going to look for a month.
No, because then I think I have to go back and catch up on all that.
Like I read every single YouTube comment,
every single Reddit post,
every single,
both disc discords.
What I'm suggesting is perhaps in the same way that those whole thirties might be good for your system.
Getting rid of the sugar and other stuff,
maybe not looking at it for a little while.
We'll give you a nice set of perspective and be healthy for cleansing.
I don't think you're wrong.
I guess at this point I'm just trying to make sure you could read the pathfinder rules for a week instead of fucking comments
they don't make any sense you should make this somebody's job just to do a digest for you so
they pull out any rules yeah because that's what i don't want to miss like we've been fighting this
naga for three weeks grant that's why I can't take time off.
Because I want to, as much as I'm like trying to sift through the bullshit, like I'm trying
to make sure, how did that go?
Well, I disagree with their opinion of that.
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
I'm trying to, but that's a good point, Matthew.
Maybe I need someone to like.
That's what you do for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't read those things.
Oh, you do it for us.
And you just send us a text.
You're like, by the way, did you know this is how lay on hands actually works?
But it would be nice if someone else could do it other than you.
A third party.
But that was something that I was wanting to do for a while, too.
Because it was my job mostly to look at the company emails.
And I was like, every week, I'd love to get a collection of the best emails.
People saying nice things
about us and just like have a little packet like handing out to everybody it's like i never did it
and it's like i get i i i kind of like fall off of replies because like especially back when we
were doing restarting our live shows again we got some really mean emails and it was just like i
feel it's like a it's like a hot stove it's like, I can't, I have to force myself to go back.
So I can't.
As you do with hot stoves, you just force yourself to hold your hand longer and longer.
Exactly.
Like G. Gordon Liddy.
Well, I am excited to play.
I am excited to come back and jump back in and probably make some mistakes.
We spent a lot of time complaining and it's not, I'm so excited yeah me too and i i think that there's there's a larger discussion here
we've had back a long time ago and i and i've i think i've come completely uh to changing my
opinion on it which is this discussion of you know prioritizing narrative versus prioritizing
mechanics and you and i would talk on the early days of cannon fodder so much about how you know
uh porque no los dos, right?
Like, you can have both.
You can have a great story and follow the mechanics of the rules.
Sometimes the mechanics of the rules make a great story.
And I do agree with that.
But I think that if you get it into your head the wrong way, it can absolutely ruin your
enjoyment of the game and the enjoyment of your own narrative.
And so I think as a group, and this is what every group needs to do, we have to decide
as we approach the end of Giant Slayer what we care about more as a group.
Do we care more about telling a great story or do we care more about beating the Giant
Slayer adventure without dying or with losing one but still beating the adventure
by the book by the rules because i would i would say i would rather tell a great story at this
point i'm a little exhausted with the dark soulsy nature of trying to beat it and make and
legitimately beat it like get platinum i don't care about getting platinum in giant slayer yeah all i care
about is i feel like will is a person to me and i feel like if he dies because of a rule error
i don't care anymore as long as it's a great story i don't care uh so and i used to think
differently and i just think that i'm changing in that way and i think we all have to decide like is this a tactical game that we're playing or is it a narrative game i mean i
think if i kind of feel the same way but if the difference is that if like troy if you theoretically
uh intentionally misused a rule or ignored a rule to kill one of us that would bother me yeah
if it's an honest mistake then yeah i don't
care either right right right like the way we did deeper darkness um that would have been shitty if
someone died and then we're like oh yeah wait this this wasn't right let's yeah but but let's just
ease back and just keep focusing on the moment and the narrative and the drama of that yeah instead
of going back and saying that should have never happened well you know what it did happen it's life it happened and so like just move on and
make great story out of it i think if we get caught up trying to parse the rules apart to
where we're undoing all these things it's just gonna make us miserable yeah yeah well that's
why i want to have this discussion because i think it's interesting i think it's interesting
for all the listeners to kind of get a look at you know how much we care about
this yeah and it's not just a hobby um you know we're really we're really trying but uh sometimes
mistakes are made last week a couple mistakes were made but uh we we settled on this horrible incorporeal demon creature appearing.
Let's take a little zoom in on this.
I brought a new mini.
I got rid of the one with the candelabra and brought this one in.
I love that candelabra, though.
Can I pick that up on consignment?
You know what?
Search the room after the fight.
See if the candelabra is still there.
But, yeah, pretty horrible.
Big, black, shadowy wings.
Sort of a body that disappears into the ground.
All like basalt black, red eyes, fangs.
It's got a very Fantasia Night on Bald Mountain feel to it.
It's horrible looking.
And, you know, obviously I was trying to,
I even said it last week,
I was trying to game the system a little bit,
having the summons happen after the prismatic spray.
But I redid it on air, had a ray hit it, which was an electricity ray, and you now know that it's immune to electricity.
However, it can now take its action.
And it's going to attempt to claw Nestor coin.
First claw.
This is against Touch A Sizzle.
23.
That's a hit.
Okay.
You probably have one of the highest Touch A Sizzles of the crew.
Two points of regular, five points of cold.
Okay.
Just this cold hand reaches through your armor into your soul,
and you feel like you had a brisk breeze enter your lungs.
Brisk iced tea.
Brisk iced tea.
Second claw also hits with a 29 against touch,
and this is very low damage.
Two points of regular, one point of cold.
Then it just goes to bite you with its cold, cold fangs.
And that's an 18 against touch.
That's a miss.
That's a miss.
That is a miss.
Ooh, nice.
And now, to end the round, the seventh round, unless I mistake.
Wow.
It is Sir Willamette Keswick's turn.
You kept track. Sir Willam It is Sir Willamette Keswick. You kept track.
Sir Willamette.
Sir Willamette Keswick.
That was a very Larry David.
Oh, petea.
Petea.
Sir Willamette Keswick.
Okay.
Sir Will seeing this creature.
He is permanently confused.
Oh, that's right.
Yes, give me a D100.
I completely forgot about that.
No, he has reprieved from it for some time.
Oh, yes, you used that Jonski that...
I thought I had something.
Hold on, let me log on to the Reddit
and complain about Troy getting that wrong.
I edited this last week.
What was it?
It was...
You did something that removed that condition temporarily.
It suppressed it?
Yes, there is a temporary suppression.
My username is Laval Lame.
Is that you?
That's me.
That's me.
Oh, I think I use the mercy on myself in Sourcehold.
Yes.
What does that do?
I use Dispel Magic and rolled against it and was successful.
But it works like Dispel Magic, but instead of dispelling it, it temporarily suppresses it for the duration.
All right. So this is why this is really important.
Because when this fight ends, if you are still fucked up, correct me if I'm wrong, you're the only one that has the power to take it away, but
you need to rest in order to
learn the spell to take it away, right?
What's that?
You were looking at your iPad the whole time
like, he's listening, right?
When this combat ends...
I can't believe I have to repeat this.
He's still looking at his iPad.
Wait till he stops.
You're the only one that has the capability of removing it,
but you have to rest in order to get the spell to do it, or no?
I don't have the capability of removing it.
You don't?
Metra does.
I do?
Oh, wait, no, it's all that, like, heal stuff, right?
Wish, wish.
Yeah, I don't know how this is all going to work.
There is one who knows how to remove it.
Are we at this point where a character who is not a part of the main party right now
is the only one that can remove it?
What are the spells?
Wish?
You know this.
It's Greater Restoration.
Greater Restoration!
Heal?
Paladin?
We have Regular Restoration.
Limited Wish, Miracle, or Wish.
Do you have a Greater Restoration scroll zone?
We have Regular Restoration.
I do not believe we have Greater Restoration.
That's a big ask. That's an expensive
question. It's a
fourth level paladin, Jonski. Can you
cast fourth level spell? Oh, yeah, I can.
I just don't have it prepared. Okay, so this is the problem.
It's like, essentially, if you all
survive... That's just regular restoration.
Greater restoration is a seventh level paladin
spell. Excuse me, yes.
It's enormous.
It's only cleric, Oracle, and Shaman.
Yeah, I brought it up on D20 PFSRD, and I forgot to go down there.
Wow.
That's end of book boss type of spell, baby.
You need seventh level.
So this is a problem.
Should you survive?
They need to knock you unconscious and tie you up.
No, that's not true.
The way we get out of it is by hoping and casting Protected from Evil on him every time it comes back to give him a new free save against it.
We haven't done that yet.
That's our biggest thing.
We can give him a new save against this with Protection from Evil.
No, no.
It's mind control, right?
No.
It's not mind control, though.
Oh, this is super curse.
Right.
That's why I need seventh level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is...
We're burnt.
I did that thing where I Google insanity without writing Pathfinder.
It's not even the third result.
We can also just...
We can also just kill him.
And then resurrect him?
Perfect.
Well, then we'll get a new character for Joe.
Right.
Or one of us.
Like, we could kill...
Any one of us could die.
It'd be like a soccer substitution
yeah it's like we die we're out of the game permanently and then whoever the substitute
comes in and can save it can't we all agree the only logical solution here is for baron to die
adriel to re-enter and save zero well well you know what uh troy i'm looking at it now since
you google it school enchantment affect compulsion. I believe protection from evil says
any compulsion based thing.
It is a mind affecting John.
Yeah.
So let me just
quickly look
read you
protect from evil
bodily contact
now that the subject
immediately receives
another saving throw
if one was allowed
to begin with
which I believe it was
against any spells
or effects that possess
or exercise mental control
over the creature.
And you get a plus two
to the roll. So I don't see
why Protect from Evil wouldn't at least give him one
roll. Is this
an ability that
possesses or exercises mental
control? No, that's the thing.
They just drove him mad.
Yes, it says including
enchantment, charm, effects, and
compulsion, but the previous part is
it has to possess or exercise mental control,
which isn't really
what's going on here.
So, the only reason I bring it up is
you've got a problem you're going to have to deal with at some point.
But right now, what would you like to do?
I'm going to take this moment
to go back
to everything that we said in the intro
and parse apart the rules
to the point that it
grinds everything to a halt.
I am rereading
it. By the way, it wasn't ensorcelled. It was protection
from evil.
You definitely said ensorcelled because we
had a lot of fun with that. And don't take that away.
The word ensorcelled came up. The word ensorcelled
I believe came up
when I cured Metra
of her thing.
Her nausea. You mercied her.
Or did I
stalwart her? Anyway,
I know I stalwarted her. I didn't know if I did both.
Ensorcelled. Great word.
Apologies to ensorcelled.
We, uh, let's
lift the veil here for a second.
We have edited
out about 25 minutes of
conversation about protection from evil,
dispel magic,
insanity, confusion,
break enchantment,
heal, wish, limited wish, you name it.
Blindness, deafness. All down the line.
And I'll spare you
all of the drama.
The end of
the conversation is, Sir Will's
confusion effects are not suppressed.
He is permanently insane
and we have no ability
to change that. I don't know what's going
to happen with this story. I'm very concerned
about it at the moment, but for right now
I'm not going to worry about it. I'm just going to roll on the confusion
table for my action.
We also discussed
just metagaming a little bit and murdering Will in his sleep so that
we could bring in a new character.
Yeah, there was a lot of laughs about tying me up and throwing me out the moon door.
I whispered to Skid, just kill him.
Just kill him.
And I'm more than happy to do it.
I just...
It'd be easy enough.
It's sure easy.
Look at him.
Look at the size of him.
I would like to summarize one point because we love to talk about rules as well.
The protection from evil that I use to temporarily suppress seems to be in our reading, and we all agree with this,
limited to spells that are exerting a dominance effect over the mind of the creature,
mind controlling them in some way, whether that's charm or possession compulsion etc while
insanity does have the compulsion uh keyword attached to it the spell is instantaneous which
means it instantly happened and went away there is no mental control over sir will he is just now
suffering from a permanent effect of that spell that is not magical it is just in him and there's
no way to break it with a simple dispel magic or protection from evil.
I'm proud of all of you for not
trying to argue, well, one
could say that
insanity is trying to
exercise mental control.
Yeah, typically
with those, on the
other end is a creature. There is a
creature that did something. Even though the creature
casts prismatic spray, the creature has no control over what those rays did or the effects that they have
they're instantaneous it's also that kind of spell that that's an active spell that's ongoing right
whereas yeah since this is instantaneous it's like it drove you insane it's like boom in a second
it broke your brain now your brain is broken You're under no magical effects at this point.
You are under a mundane effect that was caused by a magical spell.
Exactly. And to quote Matthew, who put it perfectly during this whole argument,
if you cast blindness deafness on someone,
dispel magic does not remove the blindness.
You are just blind.
Only remove blindness can then remove that effect.
The spell is not continuing to hover
around you magically. You are mundanely
just blind, even though a spell caused
it. Alright, here we go.
Ha!
Ha!
69, what's your roll?
96. I just got it. I'm the
nearest creature. 96 to attack
nearest creature. Oh no!
For this purpose, a familiar
counts as part of the subject spells as
our house rule that Troy made up
because he hates animal companions.
I will roll a 50%
chance that I attack Lexington.
I don't recall what
that. 51 or
higher is Metra. 51 or higher
is Metra. 34.
So once again,
he attacks Lexington.
I think we just
said with the butt of his, um,
John. Now you have to use your wolf's bane leash
to whip it.
Whip it to death. Whip a choke chain.
Uh, yeah, so he's, he's, um,
all Lexington
wants to do is help and fight this
shadow demon.
And Sir Will is pulling him away.
And Sir Will is fighting.
Lexington is fighting Sir Will to not pull away from the creature.
And so he just says, what's wrong with you, you filthy animal?
And he hits him.
It's so sad.
It's so sad.
It's so dirty.
Lexington is so fresh and clean.
That is a hit.
Of course, it's always going to be a hit, and I'll figure out the damage. Go on.
Lexington must know that you're
not in your right mind. Or he doesn't,
and it'll be a very sad end.
It's so sad. I keep thinking about the man
who loved bears for Marty
Stauffer. I can't get the fucking
image out of my mind. It makes me really sad.
Go away!
Eighth round.
Nestor Coyne, no longer charmed.
Yeah, Nestor is
like, I would like to
have a word with her.
And he is going to take a
five foot step away from
the shadow demon and unleash
a full attackings.
Point
blank shot, deadly deadly aim rapid shots
etc first attack
with the old jota
is a 36 to hit
36 is
a hit and now what is the
bonus on old jolter plus 2 plus 3 plus
4 it is a
jolter is a plus 1
I believe okay
just don't roll electricity
and then give me the damage and DR will
apply. Okay.
Damage minus electricity
is 48 points of
regular damage. Okay. So I take away
the DR and then I have that where
it's an incorporeal creature. Right. Okay.
So I'll just do that for myself.
Okay. Second attack. DR will not creature. Right, okay. So I'll just do that for myself. Okay.
Second attack, DR will not apply.
Right.
After this.
Second attack is a 32 to hit.
32 is a hit.
Okay.
That is 22 points of regular damage.
Okay.
All right, third attack.
Oh, man. 31. That's a hit. Okay. Alright, third attack. Oh, man.
31. That's a hit.
Okay.
That is 27 points of regular damage. Okay.
Fourth attack.
There we go.
That is
a 39 to hit.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
That is 25 points of regular damage.
Okay.
Final attack.
There we go.
90, 18.
That is a 30 to hit.
That's a hit.
Oh, thank God.
That is 21 points of regular damage.
And the shadow demon is banished.
Wow.
Baby. Zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom. Twang, twang, twang, twang. that is 21 points regular damage. And the shadow demon is banished. Wow! Baby!
Twang, twang, twang, twang.
This Naga has to know.
This Naga has to know she's in trouble.
She's like, where are you, you snake?
Show yourself.
You've got to pay, love.
You've got to pay for what you've done to old Nestor Coyne.
It is Metra's turn.
Metra will level her finger at the basket directly to the west of her.
Okay.
And disintegrate it.
And disintegrate it.
It gets a little attempted to save.
Natural one.
How many points of damage?
I believe it's an object, so it's gone.
Ten by ten square.
Ten by ten.
Cube of non-living matter.
It just simply disintegrates.
You thought it was an object.
All of a sudden, the barrel stands up.
Stop treating that barrel like an object.
It's a wicker gundam.
Metro will move to stand up to the north of the room behind the ruins,
where the former northernmost basket used to stand.
Yes.
All right.
There are two baskets remaining.
Let's keep things moving with Baron Redheart.
Okay.
The summon creature being so readily handled by Nestor
changed my plans. I was going to stride over
to Metra and cast Protection from Evil
upon her to help
let her stand. That will not
remove her Insanity, Grant. I'm
trying to get rid of Metra's
Insanity, and I have been for the last hundred
episodes. It is...
Baron's going to ready
an action, and that is to take a single attack
against the
Naga, should it appear in either
of the two remaining
baskets.
Alrighty then. And he will do
so with
Deadeye, if necessary, to resolve
against Touch AC, should it appear
in the Western West one.
Okay.
Which is still a standard action
because that would be
it's easy to apply. Okay, well
on the
western side of the room
the Naga does appear
right next to me. And
the good news is
it is outside
you are outside of the range
of its charming gaze.
This is another point of contention. Did I talk about this?
Did I talk about this off air? The charming
gaze is an active
effect that has to be dealt with
regardless of whether you're ready
to action or not. You can also use
the charming gaze as a
standard action. The one that's going off
before you're ready to action, like happened a week ago,
is the one that's like, you're looking at the Naga, you gotta deal with it.
Right now, it's not a problem
because you're outside of that range, so go ahead and take
that attack. Fantastic.
It has a similar range to my pistol.
Interesting.
Come on, baby. That's gonna
hit against Touch AC with a
13 on the die.
What is the total? The total is going to be against Touch AC with a 13 on the die. What is the total?
The total is going to be take off rapid shot and should be at least 30.
Okay.
Is that okay?
Yes.
Give me a 50% miss chance.
Oh, beautiful.
Displacement.
Displacement.
All right.
Oh, I have a single. Wow, Grant, that's really far away. And you can hit against Touch AC. Displacement. All right. Oh, I have a singles.
Wow, Grant, that's really far away.
And you can hit against touch AC.
That's cool.
That's good.
Were you doing me?
I was doing you.
Listen, it's just everything you guys do are very cool.
Very cool to me.
It's very cool that your AC is that up.
you guys do are very cool.
Very cool to me.
It's very cool that your AC's that up.
That is a 74 against the concealment.
Against touch AC?
Yep, 74 against touch AC.
That's how I hit that far away.
Okay, yeah, that's good to go.
Okay, here comes the damage.
32 points of damage.
32 points of damage. 32 points of damage.
She's gonna die soon.
Not all of it gets through.
What?
What?
All right.
Troy has placed a cone diagram on the board.
The old 60-foot cone, just trying to see where I'm at here. We're all hanging out, spending a day on Coney Island.
On old Coney Island.
I was just in Coney Island, by the way.
I stood right outside the cyclone.
No one was on it in the dead of winter.
How sad.
Yeah.
Coney Island's always a bummer at this time of year.
Yeah.
Cone, but not forgotten.
at this time of year.
Cone but not forgotten.
So I could choose to use prismatic spray in a way that would hit everyone but Baron.
How many freaking prismatic sprays do you have?
At will?
Well, this would be the fourth one.
Oh my goodness.
I don't want to say how many there are left,
but let's just say the cup's getting a little dry.
You got to stop at a truck stop, fill that back up.
Well, hot and black.
Well, cream and shook.
They have free refills.
Oh, man.
I mean, this is the thing.
Like, insanity's bad.
Your situation is bad.
Everything else has kind of been good.
The Vrock got the worst of it.
You got the second worst of it.
Anything could go bad
if I do this. You kept threatening about the
green ray. The green ray.
God, if I could just act normally. But it's
really very rare to act normally.
It's not very rare. It's just as likely
as anything else. But
it's just not coming up.
Is it a 25-25-25-25
split on Confusion? Yeah, it's a 25% chance. Yeah, you 25-25-25-25 split on confusion?
Yeah, it's a 25% chance.
Yeah, there's act normally and then there's do nothing,
which is better than hitting yourself in the face.
Yeah.
One in four.
I don't really care about the HP damage at this point.
I just really want to act normally, even for a round.
I did it and I wasted it on what we now realize is a thing I couldn't do.
I could have done something else that would actually help the party.
But whatever.
Well, one in four is currently, what is it?
Isn't that the COVID infection rate in New York City right now?
So the chances are good that you could act normally.
Yeah, that's one way to look at it.
She slithers up out of the basket.
Her head pops up and she's like,
You are strong. but I am stronger!
And she unleashes a fireball that is maximized by the metamagic feat.
Oh, no.
Maximized spell.
So Metris, Sir Will, and Baron all roll a reflex save.
Oh, no!
That's a very important save.
So that's still not all of us.
You're excluding Nestor.
Sir Will looks right at him.
Because Nestor is outside of the range.
I can hit all three of you.
Metro is going to step onto the ethereal plane.
Oh, wait.
I'm excluded?
No.
Yeah, Nestor, you're excluded.
Oh, I am.
Yeah, it's just in the middle of Metro, Sir Will and Barrett.
Okay.
So Lexington will need a reflex save as well.
You're going to step into the ethereal plane?
I'll A3 step.
Okay.
And that's a what?
A swifty?
I believe it's an immediate.
Immediate action.
Okay.
And you can do that multiple times per day?
It's just a spell.
Okay.
Great.
Joe, what'd you roll?
Sir Will rolled a 22. Mm-hmm. And Lexington rolled a spell. Okay. Great. Joe, what'd you roll? Sir Will rolled a 22, and Lexington rolled a 32.
Baron?
Spell, spell like ability?
Spell.
It's a fireball.
All right, this is big.
Plus two for a 38.
38.
All right, so you have evasion.
I do not.
You do not.
So you all take 30 points of damage.
That was a fail? No, that points of damage. That was a fail?
No, that's a pass.
I mean, that 22 was a pass?
Yeah, 22 was a pass.
Oh, wow.
I guess because it's a third-level spell.
Yeah, low-level spell.
It would have been 60 points of damage maximized.
So, 30 damage.
Yep.
And then she peeks back down into the johnski
moving right along
it is sir will's turn
sir williams
looks around and says i am burning
what is going on here
fucking
balls
chicken and cheesecake
anytime sir will
anytime you'd like to join us
I would if you would tell me what's happening here
I'm enraged
Stop hitting your dog in the back of the head
And start attacking that snake
Would you talk to me like that
He's so pissed he's going to
Deal 1d8 points of damage
Plus strength modifier to self
With item in hand
Because The Naga Deal 1d8 points of damage plus strength modifier to self with item in hand.
Because the Naga... I mean, Confusion, if a creature attacks you, you just immediately attack that creature.
But it's not visible.
So I assume I have to roll on the table.
I think that it's superseded by the sentence that if you are unable to do the action you were supposed to as a confused creature, you babble incoherently.
So I don't think you roll. I think you just babble
incoherently until that Naga shows up again.
I think he's right. Yeah, because I did
attack. A confused character who can't carry out the
indicated action does nothing but babble incoherently.
There you go. Alright then.
So yeah, he
looks around. He's just like,
that bow shot fire at me!
Where is it? I can't see it.
Where's it gone?
That was very coherent.
That was quite coherent.
I understood every word of that.
Oh, right.
It was a definite truth.
You could say real words.
I could say real words.
That's probably,
no, that's right though.
Yeah, just read.
He could say real words,
but what he did was totally valid.
Read a bit of Ulysses by James Joyce.
What was that word?
Ulysses. Oh,. What was that word? Ulysses.
Oh, no.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Whoa!
The sky diamonds.
My friend Edis, when we were playing in eighth grade,
he had a similar effect.
It was like, you have to babble and go here.
It was like, babble and go here.
And he's like, ah, goat!
I always think of that.
Like, whatever.
I got to, yeah.
If you're going to read James Joyce to babbling coherently,
you should just read a page of Finnegan's Wake.
Okay.
I'll bring that up for next round.
Please do.
All right, so then...
Then I'll go to Finnegan's Asleep.
It's the top of the ninth round.
And it's Nestor's turn.
Holy shit.
All right, so Nestor...
I'm going to hold.
You're right next to that, one of the last remaining two baskets.
Actually, all right, Nestor...
No, he's not going to hold.
He is going to move away from the basket
and get on the spot of one of the destroyed baskets
to the lower left-hand
side of the room.
And I'm...
I guess I'm going to fire
one shot at the one
that I was just near. At that basket?
Yeah. I don't even know. Actually, you know what?
I'm going to use one of my flaming arrows.
Ah, okay.
Natural one. Oh, shit! Confirm? Natural 18 on the confirm. know what i'm gonna use one of my flaming arrows ah okay uh and natural one oh shit confirmed uh
natural 18 on the confirm okay so just just a waste of soon that was expensive oh yeah okay
uh this should be interesting it is metra's turn okay uh still on the ethereal plane no i'm not i
come out of the ethetherioplane.
What kind of action is that?
The Aether step only lasts until your next turn.
How convenient.
But now all I can do is move.
Thanks, Kobold Press.
I like to think of it like a wave of the ocean covering you up as you're laying at its edge for one brief moment and then receding.
That's very poetic, Grant.
Thank you.
I can only move.
So Metro will Move
That would have been 60 points
Of damage you ain't making that DC 20 reflex
Safe Metro is gonna move
To the east and duck kind
Of behind the
This little edge of the wall here
Oh okay
Little bookcase shenanigans
Little hair of the dog, little edge of the wall
I like it
When in Rome
When in Rome
It is Baron
Red Peak's turn
Red Peak
Full hearts, can't lose
Baron is going to stand where he is
Babbling incoherently
How dare you how dare you
call the song of my people uh friday night lights anything but totally coherent uh baron's gonna
stand where he is and ready in action to fire at a barrel should a naga show up in them or any other
hostile creature i'll fire at them too okay and with your current situation that you got a barrel
that's 25 feet away from you and then you get get one that is 70 feet away, you have the same
touch AC because you have long shot.
I will...
The one that is further away, as I said
last turn, I'm using dead eye if it were
to show up there for free as part of a standard action.
I'm just expending a little
bit of grit to be able to resolve
against touch AC at that distance. Use that grit!
Use that grit! But I do have
long shot, which gives me 50 feet.
That barrel is 60 feet away.
Okay. Okay.
The Naga appears at the
out of the basket
that is near the
staircase leading up on the
southeastern portion of the room.
Baron, roll
against its charming gaze.
Will save?
Yes.
Spell spell-like ability? Supernatural
ability. Supernatural.
And we're talking about
a 21.
That is a fail.
Oh no!
Wow! Oh no. Wow.
Oh, no.
Wow.
Of all the people.
And you just, what goes through your mind here?
Wait, plus 526.
Yes.
You're right.
Yeah.
Man, we all sat here forgetting that for a minute.
Never forget that for a minute. Never forget that.
I'm logging back into the Reddit
to complain about Troy.
You tried to sneak one past the goalie, Lavallee.
That would have been amazing.
You tried to get you pregnant?
I'm Troy's third child.
Pass that charisma test, please.
Non-lethally take out Sir Will.
Okay.
Go ahead and roll your attack.
That will hit against Touch AC for sure with a...
27.
27 hits.
Give me that 50% miss chance.
You are due for a miss.
Come on. Come on.
Come on.
99 last week.
Two passes this week.
40.
Oh, no.
There it is.
And here's this.
Because she just, with her eyes, you kind of first, you had to fight looking against her.
There's something so sexy about her.
And she just blows something out of her mouth.
And all of a sudden, the ground beneath you starts to disappear as a pit full.
Oh, no!
Underneath you.
Give me a reflex save.
Oh, dude.
This is using our own weapons against us.
Is that a spell or spelling ability?
That is a spell.
30.
30.
Well, here's the good news.
You don't fall into the acid pit.
Oh, my God.
I have a long history with acid pits on this network,
and I don't appreciate you bringing this back.
Yeah, seriously.
However, you jump directly to the side,
and now you are on the edge of that pit.
Should you end your turn there next
round, you'll have to roll again
for fear of falling into the acid.
You just see down the bottom, bubble, bubble, bubble,
bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble, and
then she
disappears.
Did you
just decide which square I jumped into, I'm
guessing? I did. Okay. I did, yeah.
Just checking. I did, yeah, because
that's the... That's real Okay. I did, yeah. Just checking. I did, yeah, because that's the...
That's real cool.
That's real cool.
That's really cool.
I just want to say that you just decided.
I jumped in.
Does the book say you go to the one directly?
Oh, well, you know, you just...
Yeah.
I mean, it's so cool that...
You know, thanks for moving my piece for me.
I didn't want to click my mouse.
Thank you.
I thought I'd move you to the nearest direct open space and not the one acrobatically around the basket.
What about this one?
That's like a...
And it's a destroyed basket.
You had other people standing.
I just find it interesting.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
I just find it interesting that you decided.
Isn't that interesting?
It's very interesting when it's usually random.
That's cool
I'm so happy that Grant hasn't formed an opinion either way on the action
He's just commenting on that
It's an interesting topic to discuss
Grant, to be fair
There are
1, 2, 3, 4
You know what randomly could be
In the back
1, 2, 3, 4
5 different options
1 being down 2 that one doesn't
make sense because it's the edge of a of a really but yeah well let's let's throw it in there though
huh you're very spry give me a d6 roll and re-roll a six
three you go to the one you wanted to go
you know why?
Because I believe the universe protects me at all times.
And as long as we leave it up to a die roll, everything's going to be all right.
The beauty of that space that you wanted is now you can take a five-foot step and not still be adjacent to the pool.
Poop salad.
It is Sir Will's turn.
Sir Will, give me that confusion roll.
Things are about to change, I think, this round.
I'm tired of sitting around here not doing anything.
And so I rolled a natural five.
Act normally.
Oh, yeah.
Shut up, Matthew.
All right.
Shug-a-gum-gum-gum.
I pulled up a page of Finnegan's Wake for you and everything.
What is a normal action in this moment?
You shake out of it.
Yeah, he shakes out of it.
Lexington, I'm sorry.
Lexington's like fighting against him.
And I had an idea, but the problem is the range.
Matt, you're too far away.
Why'd you run away from the barrel?
So I wouldn't be hit by another cone.
So you wouldn't be hit by another cone. So you wouldn't be hit
by another cone. Cone in 60
seconds.
Okay.
I'm sorry, Metro, but you're
too far and I don't think that there's anything I can do about it.
He's
going to just take this time
while she's invisible and there's nothing else he can do.
He's going to say,
My friends, I'm sorry.
I know not what's wrong with me.
Please take the guidance of Iomedae and save yourselves.
And he's going to raise his sword up into the air, his lance rather, up into the air and cast Beacon of Luck, which will... This white light shines forth from him as a person.
Please, I overday even bless Nesta.
And he will wash over you a bit of luck, essentially.
Oh, wow.
But the way that it's...
I'm going to work on attacks.
While the beacon of luck is in effect,
I gain a plus two sacred bonus on all saving throws.
As an immediate action before any saving throw is made,
allies within the area... Oh, interesting.
I think it's ongoing.
Sorry.
So I think, Metro, you could get into this radius.
Oh, great.
So it's a 30-foot radius around me.
As an immediate action before any saving throw is made,
allies in the area can choose to benefit from this luck,
rolling twice and taking the better result.
Wow.
Everyone within 30 feet, which is everybody?
I know Matt Metro's at it.
So Metro.
Right.
I just need to put a halo around me because it's an active ongoing spell that lasts several minutes.
How many feet?
I got you.
30 feet.
Okay.
Anybody, while you're in there, you can benefit from this bit of luck whenever you want on a saving throw one time a saving okay
all right cool yeah so if there's like a prismatic spray or if there's something else mind control
anything she does you can choose to use it once you use it you can't benefit from it again for
24 hours awesome that's great so he puts out this beacon of luck and, and then he is going to...
I can't move in a way that's going to cover everybody,
so he's going to stay near this back barrel for the moment where she may pop up.
Okay, very cool.
Let's move into round 10, and it is Nestor's turn.
Okay, Nestor is going to take stock, level his gaze, recalibrate his sights,
and do a full attack on the basket that he was shooting at before.
The one right to the west?
Yeah, to the west.
So, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
It's behind the winding staircase that you came up to get
into this room. Okay. Come on, Nesta.
First attack is a 32 to hit.
Yep. Alright.
And...
That is 57
points of damage, 5 of which is
electricity. That is enough to take that
basket out. Okay, cool.
And then he will turn his
attentions to the other baskets. Oh, this would be amazing. High-level basket out. Okay, cool. And then he will turn his attentions to the other baskets.
Oh, this would be amazing.
High level basket combat.
That's right. Watch out.
This is almost like high level training.
It's like martial training. Yeah.
Just in a room, just shooting barrels.
That is
a 42 to hit. That is
a hit. 30 points of damage.
Six select.
30 points of damage is actually not enough.
Okay.
One more attack.
90, 17 on the old Dizai and another 30 points of damage on the Basquot.
That is enough to destroy the final basket.
Outside of all these magical creatures and unbelievable world-breaking nonsense that we do in this game,
just think about how incredible it would be to see somebody, an archer, with two arrows,
go dunk, dunk, and explode a wooden barrel into just pieces and just shards.
The explosion of lightning.
Just like shattering.
It's so cool.
This is like every RPG video game ever.
There's always a point where you're going to be blowing up baskets or barrels.
Yes.
Check each of the remnants for money.
I feel like there was a...
Wasn't there a college humor sketch back in the day where it was like an RPG house?
It was like a family in the town.
And like the hero just like comes into their house and starts rooting through all their stuff.
I feel like it was a college humor sketch.
But it was so funny.
They're like, what are you doing?
And I'm just like, I'm looking for gold.
Control the doors.
I always comment on that whenever I'm streaming Wrath of the Righteous
or whatever. I'm just like, pardon me.
Pardon me?
With your third attack,
you destroy the final basket.
And Lineratus
appears. Yes!
This is amazing. What a cool combat.
Bastard in a basket!
Do you have any attacks left? That was three, right?
I do. I do, actually.
I have a couple left.
Okay.
There you are, love.
Do-do-do.
Oh, shoot.
That is a 30.
No, wait.
Oh, God.
Sorry, what happens with the gaze?
What happened with Nester's gaze?
He's outside of the range of the gaze.
If you get over it, do you have to re-roll it each time?
Yeah, it's a constantly active effect.
25 to hit. 25 is
a miss. I don't even have your roll.
Final attack is
also a miss. Okay.
The baskets are gone. The Naga
is visible.
Yes! What is gonna
happen? It is Metra's turn. She is
hiding behind the bookcase. Did we...
Can't even see it.
Nestor has hit the Naga in the past,
right? No, I think Baron is the only one that's hit it.
Do we ever roll knowledge on her?
The ultimate question I'm going to ask
is, what's her relationship
to electricity?
You don't know.
I don't know. she summoned a creature from a list so you can probably
gather that she doesn't necessarily share the same resistances just because the creature had
resistance to it so i don't think you have a reason to believe it's resistant to electricity
yeah but that's a high level spell to spend without the knowledge. High-level spell to spend without the knowledge.
I'm guessing that...
Let's see.
How many uses of the quick and metamagic rod do I have?
Great.
Okay.
Metra is going to take a five-foot step out from behind the bookshelf.
Okay.
Yep, you can see her from there.
She will now use the quick and metamagic
rod to cast a fireball.
So go ahead and have
your friend, not mind the
naga, roll reflex save on that.
Reflex on the
johnski.
28.
Okay, you pass. You're just going to take half damage.
Okay, and do you have to roll displacement?
Yeah, roll 50% mischange.
No, that's not a target.
I'm sorry, yep.
Okay.
I was thinking of Scorching Ray.
So you're going to take 14 points of damage.
That's all you got?
Yeah, well, you have to.
And then...
She's a wily snake.
She's a cold-hearted snake.
A cold-hearted snake.
Look into her eyes, Baron. snake. She's a cold-hearted snake. She's a cold-hearted snake.
Look into her eyes, Baron.
I wish you five-foot step right into her. Oh, you guys are.
You guys are just too perfectly lined up for me not to
do this. I'm just going to cast haste on all of you.
Chain lightning. There we go.
Amazing. Now I can hack you to
pieces. Quicken John to...
That's a good idea. Should I exclude Sir Will from the haste?
Can you?
Attack himself multiple times? I'm going to exclude Sir Will from the haste? Can you? Yeah.
Attack himself multiple times?
I'm going to exclude Sir Will from the haste.
Oh, wait.
I might need him.
No, I need him to get the nester.
I think to complete the chain, I think you need...
Yeah.
Never...
You don't have to cast Haste.
Never break the chain.
Never break the chain.
But I can give you both an extra attack.
That's significant.
Significant extra damage.
I think...
I think...
I think we got it.
She is dead this round.
Sir Will's not even going to get a turn as Baron melts her.
This is it.
It is Baron's turn.
She is visible, but he is at the edge of the pit.
A misfire is probably the only thing that's going to keep him from killing her.
Did you draw the pit?
No.
Oh, you can't see the pit?
Well, no, I can't, but I can five foot step away from it.
You said at the beginning of my term,
based off of the square I walked into.
Yeah, I'm wondering.
Oh, I put it on the jammer.
Here, just so you can see where it is.
Okay.
Oh.
Isn't that a cute pit?
Oh.
That's a cute little pit.
Cute little pit.
Steps away from the pit,
filled with acid,
boiling below,
threateningly sees Luranitus
without any means of escape
with all the baskets exploded around him and yells out loranatus you know what happens where i come
from when we find a snake in our boot we kill it just like this and he lets out a shot, which will certainly be a crit. So we'll go, snake! Wow! Snake!
There's a snake in my boot.
23 against Touch AC.
That is hit roll displacement, 50% mischance.
I hate your displacements.
Don't you displace me!
Don't you dare displace me!
Okay.
75.
Nice.
Oh, boy.
Give me that damn zone.
I'm so nervous right now.
Dude, she's so dead.
It's all good.
36 points of damage on the first attack.
Okay, not all that gets through, but you do hit her.
Your DR is over, if that is why it's not going through anymore.
It was stone skin.
Oh, it was stone skin.
Oh. So she had points that were was stone skin. Oh, it was. Oh.
So she had points that were being taken away.
Oh, wow.
That is going to be a 34.
Is there a missed chance?
There it is.
10.
Okay.
What do you got, nine more attacks?
Because of haste, I have three more.
Okay.
That is going to be a 22 against touch. Barely. Ooh, dang. 50% Johnski. Okay. Uh, that is going to be a 22 against touch. Barely.
Ooh, dang. 50%
Johnski. 43!
There it is! Oh, come on! Oh, this is
amazing! Come on. Come on. Natural
20! Oh!
Oh! You want the
critical first?
Critical, critical first!
Oh my god. What is this, confirm first? Yeah.
You're so mean. Uh, that is a 23 against touch. Confirm now. Oh, my God. What is this? Confirm first? Yeah. You're so mean.
That is a 23 against touch.
Confirm now.
Yes.
50% miss, John.
Last time I had you roll this for the Joe.
25.
Oh, no.
That's it.
She's the worst.
I hate her. Last attack.
This is including the hasted attack, Grant?
It is.
This is it.
That is a hit.
If it's concealed.
Oh, let's see.
22. Oh, no!
What? Oh, no.
Dude, somebody could get
because you screwed it up,
somebody could get permanently sent to another
dimension. Because of you.
So me.
Isn't that interesting that you'd
say that?
It's so interesting that you'd point that out, Joe.
So very interesting.
All right.
I'm going to tell you right now.
Oh, here we go.
I have two options right now, and I can't decide what I want to do.
I'm going to lift the veil here.
I am either going to do one of two things.
I'm either going to cast a spell that removes
her from the combat.
Oh. Or I'm going to step
forward and use my final
prismatic spray on all of you.
Thereby most likely sealing her death
unless you all
fail.
And I can't decide what to do.
So I'll decide
next week.
Oh no! You're going to decide next week. Oh, no!
You're going to start next week with just...
Come at ending with nothing?
Come on.
Maybe.
Get out of here.
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