The Glass Cannon Podcast - Giantslayer Episode 316 - Skies Wide Shut

Episode Date: February 22, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Price and participation may vary. Extras, taxes, and delivery additional. Expires April 8th. You are listening to the Glass Cannon Network, the premier source for role-playing game entertainment last week on the glass cannon podcast the end is nine i don't know guys 10 eps after this baby wow as the paladin returned to his senses nor is feeling a bit relieved because his plan was that next time we rested, he was going to kill Sir Will in his sleep. The heroes ascended to the next floor of the castle.
Starting point is 00:01:38 The sky all around you and above becomes eerily dark and cloudy. It immediately becomes night and the clouds become black and gray. And all of a sudden you hear. And when a new evil shook even the Slayer to his core... Nestor is under the effects of a fear effect, where he becomes panicked, drops his weapons, and runs. The enemy revealed itself. Suddenly, the clouds above begin to form into the silhouette of a colossal, nebulous dragon, giving you all the bone-chilling sensation of floating helplessly in a dark abyss. The adventure continues.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And it reaches up its head and all of you just like... No. You know when there's a TV show that you really like and the end of the season is coming and there's only a couple episodes left, maybe the end of the series, and you just know that those last few episodes are going to be bangers. Sopranos was like the first show, I feel,
Starting point is 00:03:24 like you knew, like, oh, somebody's going to get whacked. Oh, no, somebody's going to be bangers. Sopranos was like the first show, I feel, like you knew, like, oh, somebody's going to get whacked. Oh, no, somebody's going to die. And that was the whole thing. I'm sure there were other shows like that, but Sopranos was the first one I remember being like, who's going to die? Who's going to die? And what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:03:39 And then Lost kind of replaced that. And Lost, although it had the who's going to die feel, it also just had like, what who's going to die feel, it also just had like, what else is going to be revealed about the island? Which mysteries are they going to wrap up? All of them? All of them.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm sure, all of them. You didn't want the mysteries of New Jersey to be unraveled on The Sopranos? What new will we learn about the Garden State? What's in Chris's bunker? This is how this feels with this show. And I said it last week. I think we've got about, starting today, 10 episodes left. I mean, that is what I'm working on in my brain.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It may be more. Can't imagine it'll be less. But in my head, I'm aiming for 10 eps. And I think every single one of these EPS are going to have that like, what's going to happen here feeling. I don't even know what to say. It's so nerve wracking to prep. It's nerve wracking to start these episodes.
Starting point is 00:04:38 How do you guys feel? I just, I feel great. I'm excited. I'm happy. I'm thrilled to be playing right now. And you're really bringing me down like constantly from the moment. And this is just to show everybody like how true this is, what Troy is saying. From the moment you walk into the studio, you just complain about being sick about every one of these last 10 episodes.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And I'm just like, I don't know, just have fun with it i guess yeah like it's not possible i'm trying to get there because i'm listening to old episodes just like a little bit and be like man we had so much fun we were so stupid uh and now it's just it's so stressful it's stressful for a number of reasons one i want to make sure i i it goes off well but two i want to make sure that these great encounters you don't just light up in a round you know what i mean and that's that's where it gets tricky because if i'm fine with that i know i know and then we certainly get through it and then i can check it off my list and move forward uh but you want these last you want these last few encounters to kind of bang and i worry about like oh it's gonna be so
Starting point is 00:05:44 cool and i do this all of a sudden baron's like well i invoke this power that i've never used your boss is dead uh so i fear i fear for that do you remember why people started enjoying the show it's because they felt like they were in our game and no one else was listening and they got to be a fly on the wall troy so stop thinking about living up to expectations and just play a game for everyone here relax buddy you're not. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Relax. I've lost it. I've lost that feeling, Grant. I gotta bring it
Starting point is 00:06:09 back. You've lost that loving feeling. Anybody else's chest hurt? I think that's more reason than ever to pull out that rod of wonder. Oh, you want to see this? I asked Troy if a stream of 600 butterflies would make his life easier or harder before the before this combat he didn't know those does
Starting point is 00:06:31 no i am excited there was a point towards the end of androids and aliens when i was like i was ready i was like i'm just i want to i want to finish this. I'm ready to finish it. And in starting to prep for the finale, I'm still not ready in terms of the prep that needs to go into it. But I've officially come to the point where I'm ready to end Giant Slayer. I'm excited for the future. And I just want to, I feel like a huge weight will be lifted once it's over. But it's a false feeling. I don't know how else to describe it to you.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like it is the moment that weight is lifted, you will actively seek the heaviest thing in sight and put it on your back and be miserable again. Like this is a personality thing. It has nothing to do with Giant Slayer. It's like having these episodes live up to something. It's just too, it's too much.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You just gotta play how happy and relaxed you thought you'd be after star finder. Right. I do remember that. I do remember that it was fleeting. It was a fleeting. Yeah. You said the same thing you said about GCP two 50.
Starting point is 00:07:42 You were like, when that's over, I mean, everything's going to be easier yeah well i mean i said it to my wife and i say this to her every week i'm like i will be happy it's monday right now wednesday morning can't wait till wednesday morning i just got to get through the next two days wednesday morning i'll be doing backflips and she's like you know you say this every three days and it's's the truth, because I've got something.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We've got this today. This is the other thing. A little look behind the curtain. I don't know if this has ever happened, although I think maybe it's happened once before. I think so, yeah. Right now it is Monday, February 21st, and we're recording this in the studio. So I've got to record this and then immediately edit it for a midnight release, which is why this is going to be 45 minutes of banter that doesn't just to kind of make a smooth transition into the night well it's hard too because these late late episodes later episodes we have to edit quite a bit because there's so we keep running
Starting point is 00:08:38 into all these stumbling blocks and all this stuff that we it's a high level play that we're not used to doing and it's like it gets super super complicated and like oh crap like we got to stop and like look this up we were just lamenting when we used to play before recording like you would get to one of these things and it'd be like all right it's it's eight o'clock let's take a 45 minute break and get dinner and you think about what you want to do in the middle of a combat right yeah yeah yeah we would do that all the time and then people would just start drinking brown liquor which made it more interesting you know what we should you know we should do and then we have the famous uh night of the yeti combat i'll never forget i don't remember told that story let's tell it for a different time but i mean it was just brown liquor a yeti and
Starting point is 00:09:20 a misinterpretation of magic jar i just started yelling at you it's like what the fuck are you doing the weirdest fucking plan i'm just like i just started yelling at him like what the fuck are you doing that's that summary you just gave troy is better than any retelling of the story that's true that's all you need to do i've been thinking a lot about jade recently, though, because we always say we'll never get a chance to play it. But I think because we don't play for fun anymore, it's harder to remember that no pressure feeling. At least for me, it's harder for me to infuse that into the games because i just feel so much pressure so i wish i wish we could like squeeze in a jade regent uh getaway so you don't have enough time right now and you're stressed out because you don't have enough time
Starting point is 00:10:14 and you want to squeeze in another game i'm sorry this makes absolutely no sense the troila valley story that's it and eldon ring comes out in three days What am I thinking? But I just I miss that feeling of like It doesn't matter Well you have to work to find it Because I've been doing some work To find it And I'm getting there
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'm getting a lot better At not constantly thinking about Everything I do Being good for everyone else You you know what i mean and and i am too i'm kind of getting trying to get to the same place yeah i'm not 100 there but i'm better than i was and i feel very excited right now yeah specifically because wait i can't wait for like legacy like i we're just talking like i can't wait to record legacy again yeah it's gonna be so fun but to be fair it might be because it's level four that's the thing right it's like it's still early level play so it's a
Starting point is 00:11:09 completely different story it's not like something's totally wrong with you troy like this this high level stuff is tough but instead of focusing on rules we're getting right or wrong what i want to try to focus on and why i'm excited today is i can't get the image out of my head of this scene and of that creature, the art of the cloud dragon, and just this, like, the clouds turning to darkness and the thunder and then, like, all of a sudden, magical fear, and then you see no walls, you see no floor, you lose the sky, it's disorienting and everything,
Starting point is 00:11:40 and I'm like, instead of being so concerned with my character sheet, I just want to have fun yeah it's epic epic combat you know yeah and i think we we are gonna have fun it's gonna be it's gonna be trying i think because i'm my foot is on the gas right now you know i mean there's some times when i'm you know coasting uh either because i'm trying to stretch things along or i'm trying to play the game you don't want someone to quit the game. Yeah. Right now my foot is on the gas pedal and that's going to result in, in, in different things here that people may like or not like, but,
Starting point is 00:12:10 uh, it's all for the good of the story. And so I am excited to, to, to get into today's episode because at the end of this, or if it takes two weeks, however long it takes, this is going to be one big thing I can cross off,
Starting point is 00:12:23 uh, my list that is already, uh, down to only a couple of things. So last week you came upstairs to the next level of the castle, a level that you've now explored, you think, a few times already. Because you went up that secret ladder that you found very early on in the fireplace. You went up the winding tower where you fought the Naga. You've been on these different levels, but getting a sense of where everything is is tricky. However, you walk into this room that has no walls, no ceiling. It appears to be right in the middle of the castle.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And Metro realizes she's been here. One of the secret ladders you found led to this room when she was exploring. I never remember. Were you invisible? You were ethereal? Maybe both. But you started exploring. You saw this strange room with these lanterns hanging, casting a strange glow over the room.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And you were like, all right uh moving on you went all the way to the western part of this room went up a staircase a long staircase that took you to where the sentry turrets of the castle are and eventually to a nest with a pole uh leading to a small little uh turret that looked over the net a lot of weird stuff that's where you found the saddles but then you went back down and 20 episodes later, now you're back here coming up a different staircase. You come into the
Starting point is 00:13:52 room, trying to get a sense of where everything is. Moving towards that middle pillar in the room between the two lanterns. Think that maybe this has something to do with the center of gravity of the castle. Let's go explore that. As you start to walk in, all of a sudden the sky around you becomes eerily dark and cloudy.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And then you hear a woman's laugh echo throughout the area. And the laugh gets right into your bones, so much so that Nestor Coyne becomes panicked, meaning on his next turn, he will drop his bow and flee. The rest of you are shaken for one round. Then the clouds, almost like they start to coalesce, to form the silhouette of a colossal nebulous dragon just floating in a dark abyss above you, ready to bounce. God.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Really popped that P. Everybody give me a will save. Again? Another one? Well, hold on a second. Before we do this. Uh-huh. I mean, I have, like, I have abilities to help Nestor.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And you are, you know, the initiative thing kind of confused me. When did I have you roll for initiative? After the will save, you said will save, and then you said you're panicked, but you didn't say you started running or anything. Then you said, let's roll for initiative, and let's go a little long. Okay. So we did that. Then you said, like, Baron, you know uh give me that a stone cutting check and it was all very confusing so uh i have an immediate action that i can use to help nester and i don't want to move on to any other saves if there's something else or i just don't understand
Starting point is 00:15:36 what i should do so we started initiative order and i believe baron you moved you were thinking about casting protection from evil but then we realized that wouldn't have helped Nestor, because it wasn't the mind-affecting thing that would give him an extra save. Then you were thinking about touch of loss. You just kind of moved. Were you thinking that it was like a surprise round or something? Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I guess I got confused with the thing
Starting point is 00:15:58 I saw with my stone counting out there and all the other information. I guess I got confused! If it's okay, I'll just say that I have a ready to action to fire on a creature if I see it. Okay, so you moved and ready to action. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought we saw a creature.
Starting point is 00:16:14 You did. I thought we saw the dragon. Isn't it there? Or did it coalesce and then disappear? No, the dragon has appeared. So, Baron, that will... Oh. So, before we roll the will save, because you're saying you have an immediate action you want to take as well?
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah, I want to try to take an immediate action to help Nestor. All right, first let's resolve Baron's attack. So, Baron, fire at the dragon. Okay, so I'm going to take... So we're in it. We're in it. I've got to change the music, Grant. We're in it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 All right, so I move five feet, so I'm going to take a full round attack action if i can see this thing i didn't realize i could see it yeah it's uh it's forming in the clouds above you to the uh i mean it's it's it takes up the basically all got it the sky to the south so how far away is it um it's up in the sky but i will say that it is around 75, over 75 feet away. Over 75 feet away. Okay. I will. I have a question. Yeah. I'm concerned about something.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Why isn't there a mini on the map? What's going on? I'm doing a little theater of the mind here. I don't like, you don't do theater of the mind unless something's fishy. All right. All right. That's all I'm doing, theater of the mind. Get a guy to do a little theater of the mind. That's all I love about the little theater of the mind. Get a guy
Starting point is 00:17:27 and do a little theater of the mind for a little while. I don't want a ticket to that theater. What's the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Swift.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Swift action apply. Ford's theater of the mind. Ford's theater of the mind. I will swift action apply Bane Dragon to my weapon and fire outside of my range increment
Starting point is 00:17:52 at this creature's regular AC then. Okay. I will tell you what I hit. I should still have a pretty good chance of hitting. That is going to be a 26 against regular AC. It doesn't look like it hits. Does it look like it just passed through and there's no form? It just flies up into the clouds
Starting point is 00:18:11 and the dragon does not react to your shot. Oh, this is so bad. Ooh. I take back what I said about being excited. I know, it's so tense. Seven years of our life. One more move. It boils down to this one moment.
Starting point is 00:18:28 The second attack is a 31 against regular AC. Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry, what are the multiple attacks? You can only do one attack. I moved five feet away from Nestor. Oh, I thought you moved ten feet. No, I moved five. I think I moved five feet away.
Starting point is 00:18:39 No, but you still readied the action, right? And you can't ready a full attack. I didn't realize there was a creature there because there was no pawn on the map last week, so I'm just fired. No, no, no, hold on. During his turn, could he see the creature? No, it came after his turn. Yeah, so it didn't materialize until your turn, so you get one shot. Oh, okay, so I get my one shot, and then I'm done.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Perfect. Okay. Sir Will, now you want to use your immediate action? Yes, I want to use an immediate action. I guess sensing Nestor's failure sensing his cowardly emanating off of him dogs can sense fear maybe lexington does and yeah heads up yeah maybe he he senses here i know i like the idea that a paladin of ioma day can sense the even the slightest dip of morale in the area due to the effects of magical fear.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And he's just like, fuck that! You're the gloom guy on a basketball team. Exactly. And he's like, away with you fear! We fear no evil! And he is going to cast Paladin Sacrifice on you, which is what he had previously cast
Starting point is 00:19:42 on Baron against that crazy tree thing. And he will take on... Oh, I'm sorry. And on Metra, on her failed will save. Prismatic Spray. Prismatic Spray. That's what made me insane.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I will take on Nestor's failure. So you open up a brief but powerful divine conduit between you and another creature, taking on the damage and any other effects the creature suffers. So he just... It's a spell spell an immediate action and he i mean from what i can tell here he just takes on the fear instead of you question and
Starting point is 00:20:13 you're immune to it and i'm immune to it would you have had to do that and this might be overly pedantic the second he failed it that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying right because you forgot that's what brings up the question You forgot No there are times Is it safe to say you forgot To do it when he initially failed It's safe to say that
Starting point is 00:20:30 I was just waiting To see what was happening Right I didn't make it at the time I didn't interrupt you Right There was a secret door There was an initiative role
Starting point is 00:20:38 And I was just kind of confused Over what was happening If you tell me I can't do it Because I didn't say it immediately That's fair Right You also should remember that Joe loves holding onto his abilities until the
Starting point is 00:20:50 next episode to screw you and hoist you on his batard. So he could have planned that. I just had the feeling when you said that he was panicked that I was like, uh, no he's not. And I was excited about it, but I didn't want to futz everything up. That said, if you say I had to say it immediately, I accept it. and I have alternate
Starting point is 00:21:06 options. When a creature in range is hit by an attack or fails a saving throw, you can cast this spell, and it's transmitted to you. That makes it seem like you have to do it the moment of failure, because that's... Right, but isn't it the moment of failure? No. Nestor nor I have had a
Starting point is 00:21:21 turn in the second since he failed. Right, so just looking at the initiative tracker here, that happened. Then we rolled for initiative, and then Baron started. So did any time pass between us failing the saving throw and us rolling initiative? Baron's turn. Which all happens at the same time Right, right, right It's nitpicky, right?
Starting point is 00:21:48 It is nitpicky So if you say no, I get it I'm just making my case Yeah, yeah, God, I mean there's no I guess the question is like Did the effect that we were hit with Did that happen in combat? And were you like that will save
Starting point is 00:21:59 And then rolling for initiative? Was that a surprise round? That happened in a surprise round Essentially Yeah, I just didn't see I thought that it was fair to say there's nothing on here that says, you know, you have to do it in the moment or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:22:10 It just says, when a creature fails the saving throw, you can cast the spell and take the effects of the target as if you were hit by the attack or failed the saving throw. You can use this against effect that also targets you in its area which i did uh etc etc so yeah it's just uh yeah i'm not trying
Starting point is 00:22:32 to hold you over the coals i'm just trying to see what is makes the most sense here um it's all about the player not saying it in the moment in the right right right right which is like is that you know yeah i mean i don't know uh because immediate action yeah the one way that i would say that you're absolutely right is if it says in the spell and this is why i've been pouring over it if it says in the spell that you have to do it before you know the effects of the failure but like it doesn't say that right and i'm doing that because i know the effects of the failure and i know that it's not going to hurt me so like maybe that's shitty but it doesn't say in the spell that you have to yeah it's it's it's it's left up to interpretation when a creature is hit
Starting point is 00:23:14 by an attack or fails a saving throw you can cast this spell like it that could be interpreted as like you have to do it right when it fails right Right, but when I'm saving... Like a couple hours later, hey, did you fail that saving throw? Right, but the difference being that no actionable time has passed since he failed. Except Baron's turn in the initiative order. Right, which is by the rules of the game, the same time as everything else is happening. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Sure, sure. And what Baron did wouldn't affect anything on our side. It's all a technicality, so just do what you want. Right. It's fine. Like immediate action is just... You can use it at our side. It's all a technicality, so just do what you want. Right. It's fine. Like, immediate action is just, you can use it at any time. Happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So. We rolled for initiative, and now it's, all right, I'll say you can do it. Okay. I'll say you can do it. Fantastic. Awesome. All right, so you take on that fear effect in your immune defense. And I'm immune to fear.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So bad. Yeah. No, that fear effect in your immune defense. And I'm immune to fear. So bad. Yeah. No, that's my first reaction, too. It's like, if he just said we couldn't do it, I'd be like, all right, we have a chance. We have a chance. Yeah. Now I know we don't. Now I know.
Starting point is 00:24:13 We're totally fucked. Now everybody roll a well save. Okay. Okay. Oh, no. Is it a spell? Is it a spell like a thick? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yes, it is. Okay. Oh! And we are shaken, right? Yes, you are shaken if you pass that save. If you pass that save, you are shaken. That's what the minus two is for. Now, Nestor is
Starting point is 00:24:39 not shaken. And I am not shaken. Right. Because it is a fear effect i've just no i've just taken it from him you took his failure right or no so as he says i took his fear on the effects of his full failure wow okay uh come on that's what paladins are for, man! All right, what did everyone roll for a will save? I rolled a 25. Okay. What about Lexington?
Starting point is 00:25:14 And roll spell resistance as well for Lexington. You roll spell resistance for Lexington. You roll spell resistance for Lexington! That's fair. It's a caster level, John. What do you got? 20. Fail. Okay, so don't worry about Lexington.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Don't worry about Lexington. What was Metra's will save? Will save is my best save. And I rolled a natural 7 for a 21. For a 21. Baron. It's a real Twitter! It's a 36.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And Nestor coin. Well, we got these dice. Oh, no. In the mail. That's what I rolled. Yeah. So someone sent us these, like, very nice cat's eye mineral dice. As far as I could see, there was no return address.
Starting point is 00:25:53 There was no note or anything. But there were dice that, for each of us, it says, for the natural 20 on the die, it's each of our names. And for the natural one would be, there's the name Joe. The funny thing is, is that there were only four dice. So there's no die for Joe. These gorgeous cat's eye dice. Very nice dice. No die for Joe.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But thank you, whoever this was. Whoever you are, no thank you. But I rolled a skid. A natural 20. A natural 20. 20. Yeah. And I rolled an 18 on mine.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I used the same one. Did you use it, Matthew? I did too, and I rolled a 20. Yeah. And I rolled an 18 on mine. I used the same one. Did you use it, Matthew? I did too, and I rolled a seven. Okay. I'm so glad you are enjoying your new die. Joe, you want to die? Damn it. You want to die?
Starting point is 00:26:35 I got one here. What's your name on it? All right. The image of the dragon comes out and immediately starts to uncoalesce and disappear back into the clouds. I have a feeling. Phantasmal killer or some shit? And now it's Nestor's turn. Audiovisual hallucination? Yeah, I didn't detect evil.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Now, if this thing appeared to be seven or 80 feet above us, it wouldn't have reached there. But I detected evil in this room and didn't detect evil. Now, if this thing appeared to be seven or 80 feet above us, it wouldn't have reached there. But I detected evil in this room and didn't detect evil. And Troy never makes a mistake on that. This is a 60-foot cone. No, you were detecting it, and I was using the arrows to make sure you caught anything there. It now stays in initiative order, and it's nestor's turn so nestor i think he makes it a point to always be in control at all times i think that's one of the ways that his various trauma traumas over the course of his life have manifested.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So any loss of control will manifest in this murderous rage at whoever caused him to do this. So he senses he knows what happened. He feels that wave again of that total loss of control and panic. And it's so antithetical to his own self-conception that he knows like he feels like will take it away and there's almost something like gratitude is in the back of his mind but more than anything his his eyes narrow at the thought of finding whatever it was that did this to him. So he's just going to hold and wait until he sees something to kill.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Okay. Sir Will? Sir Will, Lexington is bucking a little bit as we are somewhat attacked by this creature, but don't know. I'm going to roll a quick perception check. It's going to be pointless, but looking around. What is this evil? 15 perception. Yeah, just as quickly as that dragon formed in the clouds, it has receded,
Starting point is 00:28:56 and the sky has gone clear again. Oh, the whole sky is clear. Yeah. It seems like there's nothing here. No, just the pillar and the lanterns Oh It's starting to go clear I should say
Starting point is 00:29:13 I will remind you that Metra can see anything That's invisible or on the ethereal plane Right In that case Sir Will is going to I'm going to ready an action And I will cast A spell if the clouds darken or any visage of this dragon appears again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And he's kind of looking up where it was, so I'll ready an action. All right. So Nestor has held his action, Sir Will is ready an action, and now goes to Mettra's turn. Can I try to identify... Can I roll a knowledge check or a spellcraft check on that
Starting point is 00:29:47 dragon, see if it was a spell that I recognize or a particular type of magic? Uh, yeah, roll uh, god. Sounds like spellcraft, right? It's spellcraft to identify a spell as they are being cast. As it's being cast. It's always so tricky,
Starting point is 00:30:03 I never have been able to... Can you roll a check on somebody else's turn? That's what I always figured out. I was so confusing about it. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's a good point, too. Yeah, what the... Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a free action,
Starting point is 00:30:15 so technically you could. It's a free action to roll spellcrafts? Is it? Yeah, well, I guess... It's a knowledge check. Yeah, it's basically a knowledge check. Yeah. You know, some skill checks you could consider.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Oh, no, that's an action. But spellcraft doesn't say it's an action. Identify. It's identify a spell. Yeah, I don't know. But that doesn't really do it either. And then detect magic is you got to hold it for a few things. You're trying to do this on the dragon that disappeared?
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yeah. Check out the pillars then and the lanterns. Knowledge Arcana. If you can't, check out the dragon because they still remain. I think there's somebody here. I think there's a female caster, right? We heard a woman's laugh. I think it's Nadia.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Or Nalbia. Nalbia. Nalbia. there's a female caster right we heard a woman's laugh i think it's uh nadia or nabia now now nabia nabia nadia is her uh her secret twin sister uh-huh okay here we go uh ready for that twist we're gonna take at least 15 episodes to wrap this up now knowledge arcana identify a spell effect that is in place and it's 20 plus the spell level. Okay, whatever. That's close enough that we can fudge it, because I want you to be able to do something. So, Knowledge Arcana. Or identify a spell that just targeted you. That's Knowledge Arcana. 25 plus the spell level.
Starting point is 00:31:36 25 plus the spell level. 25, because of the stupid shaking condition. If it was a cantrip. We're in love, Seth. Yeah, no, yourip if it was a cantrip I'd have you. Yeah, no, you don't know, but I'm glad we learned that. We've always done that wrong. We use spellcraft to acknowledge
Starting point is 00:31:53 Arcana as interchangeable. I knew that the whole time. I didn't know. Identify a spell being cast on you. DC 25 plus a spell level. Come on. You're a spell level. Alright, Metris, so yeah, you don't know. But you still got your action. Yeah, I do still have my action DC 25 plus a spell level Come on You're a spell level Alright Metro So yeah you don't know
Starting point is 00:32:06 But you still got your action Yeah I do still have my action And I'm wondering If the only Only action The only reasonable thing To do in a situation like this Is to draw the
Starting point is 00:32:14 Rod of Wonder after all And use it Just see what happens What applies No I will Was this your card? Is this your card? I used to love that
Starting point is 00:32:24 When I didn't know What to do as my sorcerer I would just cast Prestidigitate Is this your card? Is this your card? I used to love that when I didn't know what to do as my sorcerer. I would just cast Prestidigitate. Is this your card? I will instead... Let's do a little protection here. That's a good idea. A little buff? A little Bufferino?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Buff Bagwell? Buff Bagwell. I'll use the quick and meta magic rod to cast mirror image on myself i'll roll for that in a minute yeah and then i'm gonna cast uh oh do we want does everyone want some haste or do we want some uh particulate form casters so i don't think critical hits are going to be as uh as in play probably part of me wants for all of us to cast fly on ourselves and go down the secret path that we found and just run away from this dragon now.
Starting point is 00:33:09 The dragon is only in your mind, Grant. Yes. Or is it? Let's do haste. It's just more utility until we figure out what we're dealing with. Yeah. Okay. Unless I get pandered again. Hey, yeah. We'll get an extra movement to run away. Alright then. Top get panicked again. Hey, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 He gets an extra movement to run away. Alright then, top of the next round, it goes to Baron. The shaken condition is now added. The shaken condition is now over for you, yeah. Baron will do his own perception check after seeing Sir Will do a crappy one and does not do much better at
Starting point is 00:33:41 25. How do you see someone do a bad perception check? I just see, like, just a sound and light enters Sir Will's dumb brain and him not process it very well. He was looking at the ground. I don't see anything up there, sir. Looking down at the ground. You see the same thing as Sir Will.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Like, the dragon has receded into the clouds, and the clouds have started to part, and the sky is getting clear again, and all that remains in the room are these two floating lanterns and the pillar. Can I do a religion check on the pillar? Sure. Oh, great. Religion applies. Come on, baby.
Starting point is 00:34:15 17? It's John the Baptist! No! Oh, damn. Yeah, no, you don't know. All right. Baron's going to move into the room. He's going to move 10 feet forward towards Sir Will. And he's going to be shoulder to shoulder.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And he's going to look at Sir Will and says, watch this. And he's going to fire a shot at the pillar. Okay. Ooh. That is going to be a 33 to hit the pillar. It hits the pillar, bounces off, and is lodged right in Lexington's left eye. Sure, put it to me, John! You fool!
Starting point is 00:34:55 Lexington crumbles to the ground. Arrogant fool! My plan has finally completed itself. Watch this, I can bounce a bullet off that column right into Lex's eye. Twang! I've been practicing. Okay, well, that's just...
Starting point is 00:35:11 Very impressive. Nothing happens. The working theory I had there was that it was similar to that cube we found on another place, the castle that I asked about last week, and you said if we turned that upside down, it would screw with the castle somehow,
Starting point is 00:35:27 so I was thinking this might be magical in its own way and i thought maybe shooting it might do something weird to the dragon or the castle or but it doesn't seem to have all it does is blind lexington so the man with a hammer every problem looks like a nail yeah So All of a sudden The sky Begins to darken again Eerily dark and cloudy They start gathering super fast around you And it is night time And it goes to Nestor's turn I'm just gonna keep
Starting point is 00:36:02 There's nothing to shoot at I'm just gonna keep holding He's just kind to shoot at. I'm just going to keep holding. Okay. It's like he's just kind of scanning the clouds, waiting for a shape to appear. Sir Will? Same thing. He's readying a spell if a shape appears or an enemy that is visible appears, yeah. Metra?
Starting point is 00:36:18 I'll cast Fly on myself. Metra, boom, cast Fly. And I'll take off. And you'll take off into the air. I'll just rise straight up, basically. Or not straight up, but you know. She looks like Storm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Rises up into the clouds. You know what happens to a cloud dragon when it gets hit by lightning? Same thing as everything else. Well, probably not actually. No, actually, it gets healed. It's probably immune to electricity. Laughs. It tickles.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I'm going to put this little wind icon on my token so you know I'm flying. Sir Will is going to ready chain lightning. It's going to fire at the dragon if it appears. We're having a good time. Oh, we should just cast cloud kill on it. That would do it. The perfect spell. That is the most Nick Lowe solution Sorry Nick
Starting point is 00:37:11 It kills anything in the clouds right It kills clouds Specifically kills clouds How high up do you go Metro 80 feet I can't go 80 feet Damn it Oh, I can, I'm hasted
Starting point is 00:37:27 I'll go, how tall is the ceiling? It's sky How tall is the fake sky? How high do you go? How fast do you go at that? Totally open sky Rocket upwards It looks like totally open sky
Starting point is 00:37:42 It looks like it keeps going forever You said the giant was about 75 feet away from us The dragon So I will go up 65 feet He's like slow playing Do you go in the direction of the dragon or do you go straight up I can't go straight up
Starting point is 00:38:00 I mean I could after I fly a ship But I go at an angle Once you reach 50 feet your head butts up against the sky. Oh, so it is like the Tropicana. It is like the Tropicana. Oh, interesting. Okay. So you're just like, what?
Starting point is 00:38:19 It looks like sky, but you feel your head bumping up against the open sky. Illusions, Michael. And it comes back to Baron. Baron, what do you do? There's nothing to shoot at. Nothing to shoot at. You want to shoot at the sky? No. I shoot the darkness. Pardon me, just want to go at that cloud bridge
Starting point is 00:38:44 I found. Yeah. Go, Sheriff. I'll follow you. Baron's going to hop onto the broom of flying. Okay. And get ready to go. He'll move next to Nestor.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Well, yeah, it's probably standard action hop on the broom, and then he moves next to Nestor. So standard action hop on the broom, you fly back to S, basically. And I've just been telling the broom, since we've kind of been going on these dangerous paths outside, to follow me. Because you can command the broom to go anywhere, and that's what it's been doing. What's the broom's name? Yeah, what kind of personality does the broom have? The broom's name is Broomhilda, obviously. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And the personality... What about Broomo? I like Broomo. We don't talk about brumo all right manuel o'brien i'm sick of these incanto references constant
Starting point is 00:39:33 stream of incanto references yeah i mean that's my first one that's what you think so that's your turn that's that's my turn so that's your turn that's that's my turn so that's your turn okay uh naming a broom suddenly that was my turn that's a full round action suddenly in the clouds the dark clouds are getting ever darker by the second you hear that mocking laughter once again Everybody roll a will save.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Oh, come on. So do I get my spell or not? Because I don't see anything. What is your spell? What is my spell? Oh, what was your action? You readied an action. If you saw something to cast a spell, you don't see anything.
Starting point is 00:40:17 You just hear something. A perceived direct fucking threat. Fuck's sake. We already had to roll a save on this. And we're still shaken if we saved against this earlier at this point, correct? For the purposes of... No. Everyone has come to me and moved once again
Starting point is 00:40:33 out of the range where I give them all a bonus to fear effects. Yeah, so you hear this laughter. Sir Will, you don't have to worry about this. Lexington, spell resistance. That's going to worry about this. Lexington, spell resistance. That's going to be a 23. Fail. So I just need Baron,
Starting point is 00:40:52 Metra, and Nestor as Will say. Baron, what did you roll? I rolled a 30, but Brumo he rolled. Baron's good. Metra, how'd you do? 25. 25, And Nestor? 23
Starting point is 00:41:06 23 So the laughter does not pierce into your bones I hate this thing Whatever it is Yeah this is really annoying I hate it I think haunt should be just chopped out of this game If this is acting like a haunt right now
Starting point is 00:41:20 Oh it does sound like a haunt It does behave like a haunt Just in terms of it being inscrutable Yeah And like you don't know how to proceed And it's just annoying and haunt. It does behave like a haunt. Just in terms of it being inscrutable, like you don't know how to proceed, and it's annoying and can cause panic. It does. But haunts don't roll spell resistance.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Right. And that's one thing. That's a key indicator is rolling a perception check first to see if there's like a telltale sign. Right. But I don't think that happens. I'm just saying it behaves. It walks like a haunt.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah, it walks like a haunt. It quacks like a haunt. Yeah, it walks like a haunt. It quacks like a haunt. And yet it's a platypus. And yet it's, right. And yet it's a mini-boss. They produce fennel? Yeah, it's a mini-boss. Yeah, it's a mini-boss.
Starting point is 00:41:53 All right. For Nestor's turn, he will move within 10 feet of Sir Will. No. I'm going to move to you. Yes. Okay. It's not your turn.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Because, I know. I'm just letting everybody know what they're all going to do tactically. Come to move to you. Yes! Okay. It's not your turn. Because, I know. I'm just letting everybody know what they're all going to do tactically. Come to the Skybridge. Come to the Skybridge, Joe. Oh, you know what? It connects directly to the hospital. So, Nestor will take his turn, and he's just going to move adjacent to Sir Will, knowing that this is where the safest place is.
Starting point is 00:42:23 No, no, no, no. I said I was going to move to you. So, stay there. Well, I thought this would say. I said I was going to move to you. So stay there. Well, I thought this would say, because if I can get closer to this thing and have a better angle, if it does show up. I think we're all leaving.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Okay. All right, then I'll say it. At least exploring this secret whatever until this coward caster shows themselves. Okay. Out of the sky, just to the south of where Nestor and Baron are standing, you both at the same time see this small blue bird just appear out of the or as it's moving towards you this beautiful blue bird starts to spin wildly
Starting point is 00:43:07 until it forms the shape of a whirlwind that goes directly on both of your spots. You are surrounded by this whipping cyclone of air. Give me a reflex save. Give me the action spellcraft check.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah! Sure. That's 26. 26. Not a spell. Okay. You see this bird, it just turns into this whirlwind. 28. I'm no longer shaking.
Starting point is 00:43:40 It is a spell. No, it's not a spell. It used some sort of ability to turn into a whirlwind. What did it's not as well. Yeah, no, it just used some sort of ability to turn into a whirlwind. What did you get, Nestor, with your very low reflex? Yeah, a 30 for Nestor. Okay, and what about Baron? 28.
Starting point is 00:43:55 28, okay. So, you do not take any damage. Give me a second reflex save to see if you are lifted by the power of this. Don't lift me! Don't lift me up. 29. Baron? 31.
Starting point is 00:44:10 31. Okay. The correct answer was natural one, and neither of you said it. So you are not lifted, but however, this thing is concealing all vision around you. Interesting. Interesting. Did we get the sense that this is in response to us being
Starting point is 00:44:27 by this exit? Not necessarily. It just all of a sudden flew out of the clouds and turned into this whirlwind around you that is 15 feet in diameter on all sides. Excuse me, 10 feet. Does it have complications for flying?
Starting point is 00:44:47 Will it affect my flight check? Is there anything in the spell that it says that? Oh, that's a good, not a spell, but Good question Where you are flying Basically for mechanical purposes, each round that you stay In this space, you're going to have to roll these saves So if you move to get out of it
Starting point is 00:45:01 You won't have to Flying, just, where you're flying you get a save every round, basically. But you already passed the save, so it doesn't matter. It's just dependent on how long you decide to stay in there. So that happened, and now it is Nestor's turn. It's come back around again. But things have changed. Yeah, I just don't...
Starting point is 00:45:25 I don't know what to do. I don't have the knowledge, skills to figure out what's going on. Yeah. I keep holding, I guess. I don't know if I can shoot arrows at this whirlwind. Yeah, it's tricky, right? Part of being a player is like,
Starting point is 00:45:42 I feel like I gotta do something, but sometimes waiting is the best response. It's like I could do something stupid or ill-advised. Right. That's always an option. But, yeah, I'm just going to – I think he's just really focused on seeing a target, just waiting for a target to appear that he can kill.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Because you're still so angry about that feeling, right? Yeah, yeah. He's just like – all the wind is just buffeting him in the face, and he's just like, it's not even blinking. He's just looking around like a hawk, trying to find something to kill.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah, it makes sense. And you don't have the luxury that Sir Will and Metra have, where they can just like, use these rounds to buff. Yep. And it does come to Sir Will then. So what do you do, Sir Will? Are you going to hang out and wait? Or is there things
Starting point is 00:46:28 you can do here? No, I don't think at this point. He's kind of tired of it. Curse this infernal darkness! He's looking around. No enemy in sight. He's just going to say, Armaday, light our path away from this place!
Starting point is 00:46:43 Or defeat whatever it is that hides here. And he's going to cast Good Hope on everybody. Oh. So that'll be a nice little boon, and it should buff your saves next time if it comes around again. Buff your saves.
Starting point is 00:47:00 So that'll be everybody but Metro, right? Because that's one living creature per level, no two of which may be more than 30 feet apart. No, it's everybody. And she's 65 feet up. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Fuck Metra.
Starting point is 00:47:12 All right, yeah. I'm looking at her on the map. I'm like, she's 15 feet away from me. What are you talking about? I put the little wind symbol there. Yeah. On the giant slayer maps, I play with us at about this size. So I did not see your little mind.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Joe made the okay symbol with his hand. I am going to then move toward Nestor and Baron and say, Metro! Call into the darkness. We're going into the secret tunnel! Okay, alright, so you start to move towards that, we said
Starting point is 00:47:40 like Dark Souls fog wall basically. There's a place in the sky where Baron sees the outline of a ladder that's identical to the ladder that Metra climbed up but placed differently in the room on the other side of the room so you move
Starting point is 00:47:56 over there and you move directly into this whirlwind so well into the whirlwind 15 feet wide do you not see the it's only around Baron on the map. It's only on Baron Square. I thought it was just unique to that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:09 No, no, no, no. Let me show you what it looks like. And in Troy's defense, he did say what size it was. It's just the map that is not correct right now. Can you guys not see the John Ski? We just see a little five-foot John Ski. It wasn't even on Baron Square for me, so I just reloaded. Can't spare a square?
Starting point is 00:48:28 So you didn't have the aura visible? Yeah. All i see yeah this is nonsense all right this dumb nonsense great uh i'll just stand outside of this swirling and say chef are you alive in there what we're going through will we're going through and he just charges into the fucking wind and i will i'm assuming get swept up into the air this is going to be wild and crazy that's oh yeah that's wild and crazy here we go so you walk right into the whirlwind yeah okay give me a reflex save for you know you and lexington i'm gonna need four of them i'm really looking for natural ones here you guys have good reflexes well sir will doesn't no not sir will it's kind of a dumb move 23 okay you're all right um check the stand and saddle oh my god i'll tell you what matthew you hear that you train us you are very
Starting point is 00:49:19 very you should gm this game sometime um wow no thanks. Looking at Troy, it seems detrimental to his health. Oh, it's horrible. Don't you remember the banter? He was very excited to be GMing today. It was very... Yeah. Take it back if you don't want it. I'll go in there.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Go in there. Okay. I mean, I'm just trying to do something. Mm-hmm. He says, we're in here. Come on, we're going this way. Sir Will looks at the wind and says, I hope it will protect me and rides into it. You threw caution and yourself into the wind.
Starting point is 00:49:48 What am I going to do? Stand outside of it again? Stand here another fucking minute? All right. What was your roll? What was Sir Will's reflex there? 23. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And now those are to see if you take damage from it. You know what? I'll say that's just to see if you get lifted into the air. The damage would be on the wind's turn, as it were. So don't worry about that. At that moment, coming out of the sky to the south, where you saw this nebulous dragon emerge, Metro, you notice that just this billowing cloud of fog
Starting point is 00:50:24 begins to emerge and start to float, as if a cloud itself was starting to float into the room. But there's something in the middle of that cloud, something that you see as the wind starts to part ever so often. It is, in fact, a cloud giant. And it rushes into the room right up next to where Sir Will, Baron, and Nestor are. And then you see a second one do the exact same thing. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Oh, no. So, make sure I have my spaces right here. So two cloud giants double move out of the sky itself and rush directly underneath you, Metra, in the direction of Nestor, Baron, and Sir Will. But because Sir Will moved, they had to double move to get there. Things have changed. It is Metra's turn.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Can we see them? You see them swirling. I mean, you don't forget the whirlwind that's around you is providing concealment, and then the obscuring mist around them is providing concealment. Now, those don't overlap. So we can see them.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah, so Sir Will... Because they're both adjacent to us? Yeah, Sir Will, you can see the one to the south, and you guys can't. The other one's ten feet away. There's one and only one cloud giant upon us! Yeah, the other one is ten feet away, the one to the north,
Starting point is 00:51:56 and then the one to the south is five feet away from Sir Will. Right next to him, like full attack range. Oh dear. And you said this is an obscuring mist? Yeah, that's what you've seen them use before. You've also seen them use Fog Clown, but you would think Obscuring Mist because it moved with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Okay, I will Fireball then in such a way as to hit both of the Giants, but not my friends, and burn up the Obscuring Mist. Alright, so you're going to aim a Fireball basically behind them, so it won't hit your friends, But the blast. That fireball might also hit the pillar, which would take out Lexington's other eyeball.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I think that's the rules of the game. That's true. Go ahead and show me on the map where you'd like to put it, as it is important. Oh, interesting. Okay. Let me get my little ruler here. So I got a 20-foot radius. And I'm far enough from the air that it won't hit me.
Starting point is 00:52:50 So let's do that square right. Wait, now I just lost me. I lost the square. Don't forget these cloud giants take up nine squares, even though they're pawn. What's the problem here? Why are we splitting hairs on this? This one writes schmah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 All right, so you want to put it behind them, about 20, 25 feet behind them, near the direction of that first lantern, the westernmost lantern. Yes. All right. The top one rolls a reflex save, 19. That is a pass, exactly. Really? And then the other one rolls a 21. That is a pass, exactly. Really? And then the other one rolls a 21. That passes. Okay, so they both pass.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Let me give you Dimash. The Obscuring Mist is gone. Gone. That's huge. Huge. Of course, the Whirlwind is still there. I mean, of course the Whirlwind is still there.
Starting point is 00:53:47 The weird blue bird. What is that is that i know 16 points of damage fire damage 16 points they say is that all you got i don't respond you don't respond tactically i think it would be better to remain silent they get so angry at you for not saying anything you're gonna make a mistake now alright 16 points of damage very good new round Baron's turn
Starting point is 00:54:22 Baron you're just being buffeted by this. What are you doing? I'm going to take my turn. Oh, Nestor's going to take his turn. So would Nestor understand that if standing in the midst of this whirlwind, that it would be pointless to shoot arrows at something when he's standing in it? Yeah, I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I don't think it actually affects your range, but the concealment does, where they're more than five feet away from you. You can't target them. Okay. Alright. So he's going to have to do a move to get out of the wind. Not technically. Technically, because they're visible to your ally,
Starting point is 00:55:02 you know, I just say, it's right there! And you can fire at 50% mischance. But if you move out, it's not even a mischance. Right, yeah. But it's not a full attack. I just don't want to sacrifice. Look, I sacrifice so much if I don't get a full attack. It's just massive.
Starting point is 00:55:17 That's like, that's a problem in Pathfinder. Honestly. Yeah, well, they did away with it. They did, yeah. This is a huge way. It's like, that, they did away with it. They did, yeah. This is a huge... That's why the game gets so static sometimes because you just can't move
Starting point is 00:55:29 or else you're sacrificing hundreds and hundreds of points. And what I've learned in GMing high-level play is try and get you to only be able to take one attack
Starting point is 00:55:38 as much as possible. It's everything. Metra had to move, by the way, otherwise she'd have to roll a harder check. Oh, Metra had to move! Old moving Metra, they call her. Old moving Metra had to move, by the way, otherwise she'd have to roll a hover check. Oh, Metra had to move! Old moving Metra, they call her.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Oh man, I need to refill my Metra card so I can get on the subway later. Nestor, if he has to move, he's going to make the most of it. He's going to hastedly dash away from the giants, out of the cloud at an angle, back towards the far wall of the corridor we came into. He's going to do a somersault, pop up on his knees, and fire off a shot at the southernmost giant. Okay. Okay. That's a natty 16 for 27 points of damage. Oh, yeah, dude. 27 points of damage. 27 points
Starting point is 00:56:28 of damage. He'd already taken a paltry 16. We'll add 27 to that. Okay. Okay, not bad. Not bad. Let's go to Baron. Baron, what do you want to do? You're still caught in this
Starting point is 00:56:44 whirlwind. So importantly, Troy mentioned that these giants used a double move action, which prevented them from not only not full attacking, but not single attacking. However, that does not preclude them from taking attacks of opportunity. Baron will reach into his bag of tricks and... No, no, no. They cannot take attacks of opportunity. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Because they can't see you at all. Oh. you're not visible to them baron is 10 feet away even though they have reach um do you have concealment total concealment so they cannot see me so sir will it would provoke correct because you have regular concealment but fantastic at 10 feet away you have regular concealment. But Baron, at 10 feet away, you have total concealment. Baron is going to fly at an angle 40 feet away until he's within 40 feet above the cloud. So he's outside of the cloud and can fire down all the giants. That whirlwind is only 20 feet high. So you basically fly up and back. Up and back. And then you take one shot against which one?
Starting point is 00:57:44 The one further to the south. Okay, the one that Nestor already hit. And of course, Metro hit as well with the... Fly ball! That is an absolute banger of a hit with a 35 against Touchy. Sizzle! Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Shit roll on the damage. uh shit roll on the damage uh that is going to be a total of uh 28 points of damage 28 points of damage but that guy has been hit so nester has backed up got a shot off baron has flown backwards on the broom got a shot off so only sir will remains in this whirlwind. Alright, the whirlwind there that is around Sir Will flies over to Nestor.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Interesting. Pinning Nestor against the back there. Now Baron and Sir Will are completely safe, but it puts Nestor in a real tricky position because he is he doesn't have a good space to move to try and get that full attack off. That's what that thing does. And then this is going to be interesting here.
Starting point is 00:58:58 It is Sir Will's turn, and you are alone with these two cloud giants, but you've got a crazy AC. No, I don't. This is bad. You used to have a crazy AC. It requires a little bit of work to get it, and so when you get swarmed like this with no warning,
Starting point is 00:59:17 it's a little tough. Trying to gauge AOEs here. I don't want baron to get hurt but this is a problem this is a real problem and part of your ac being lower too is that you uh helped nester by not being panicked right could you have used that turn to help loosen it uh yeah but i wouldn't have so it's it's really just because i didn't see any physical danger yeah i didn't nobody was hitting ac so i wasn't going to use that quite yet so they got on us fast um and they sacrificed their attack to double move and get right up and in your business yeah which is always dangerous if that whirlwind wasn't there they'd be already they'd already be dead. Okay. So Sir Will is going
Starting point is 01:00:06 to... Okay. Here we go. As a swift action, he's going to once again speak out to his deity and say, I lean on you now, I owe my day. Protect me! With a litany of defense
Starting point is 01:00:24 which will boost his AC. Okay, so he's going to do that. Oh man, this is rough, dude. This is a really rough situation. Can you handle two full attacks from these guys? This is bad. You know what? It's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:00:45 It's fine. I don't, I hate to put it out on, on, whatchamacallit, on Baron, but like, we might have to share this one.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Let's see. All right. Oh, this is horrifying. Oh man. Yeah, I don't really, I'm trying to do the math. I'll tell you what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to do the math i'll tell you what i'm trying to do i'm
Starting point is 01:01:06 trying to do the math on on provoking to cast a spell and if i cast defensively if i'm going to like basically auto pass or if it's too much of a risk to take and if i need to like get out of there um oh never mind i'm fine i will uh cast defensively now a natural one always fails cast defensively no no all right then i auto succeed if you want okay uh because it is a second level spell that i'm casting according to hero lab it is yeah it is plus 20 versus dc19 so uh i will cast another spell of defense for as my standard action all right this is good all right great i didn't think that my concentration check would be that uh and now he will stand his ground. Oh, no. He will move. Now he will move 10 feet back. To provoke from both of them?
Starting point is 01:02:11 To provoke. Sorry, I'm trying to see. Oh, Baron's in the air. Yeah. All right, great. Then I will move back enough that they can't full attack me this round. Okay, but that will provoke from both of them. Correct.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Okay. I think it's fair to say they didn't have power attack this round. Okay, but that will provoke for both of them. Correct. Okay. I think it's fair to say they didn't have power attack on yet, because they have not attacked. So I'll take that off. I was just preparing. All right, the lower one attacks first. That is going to be a 36 to hit. That is a miss. Okay. And then the second That is a miss. Woo! Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:47 And then the second one. Another miss with a 35. Okay. Great. Okay, now. Let's see here. I can still get one of them to full attack you Because of their 15 feet of reach But I don't think the other one can
Starting point is 01:03:09 No 20 feet away from you Neither of them can No, I can't Watch I'll take that southern one Because it's their turn Move up 5 feet
Starting point is 01:03:16 Ah, the old 5 foot The old 5 foot Jonski Now the other one has to get right up in your grill We'll deal with him in a second. Let's do the full attack. Now I don't know if I should put power attack. And so I don't think I will. I think with you and Baron, with Baron's AC bonus against Giants,
Starting point is 01:03:38 and your just naturally high bone, I'm going to leave it off. I'm going to leave it off, and let's do three attacks. See what happens here. And the other guy's only going to get one, but he will close the distance, which is shrinking the room for all of you guys. That is a miss
Starting point is 01:03:58 with a 33. That is a miss. And then a Joe is a natural one, right? Yes! Oh, you will confirm that. Yeah, let's see. To confirm, that is a 26. It occurred to me, Joe, you could have taken any of these dice,
Starting point is 01:04:20 just the one of us that you hated the most, and just made that the natural one. Maybe Joe the natural 20. Yeah, take it. Wow. Sure, yeah. Dang it. Maybe this whole time, one of these dice was made for you.
Starting point is 01:04:30 They sensed the innate rivalry between you and Troy, for example. Then they wanted to deprive another one of us of a die. Yeah. And not just Joe. Oh, man. Okay. Let's just jump in with something here. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Oh, man. Okay. Let's just jump in with something here. All right. Let's do Joshua from Tampa Bay, Florida. Oh, let's go Bucks. Butterphalanges. Hey, Joshua.
Starting point is 01:05:02 As you attempt your attack, you lose your grip on your weapon and injure yourself trying to regain control of it. Take 2d8 damage and a minus 5 penalty to your next attack roll. Oh, nice. So 2d8. Drop the weapon, right? Or no? No. Basically, in not dropping it, he hurts himself,
Starting point is 01:05:17 and then he's a little unwieldy for his next swing. 11 points of damage. That was an 8 and a 3. That's pretty good. We got an 8 there, Josh. And so the last attack will only hit on a natural 20, and even then I don't think it will be a crit because it won't confirm. Can't confirm it. Yeah, I can't confirm it. Another 20.
Starting point is 01:05:32 No, so a miss. All right! Standing against the foes of evil. Fumble. Now, question. We're the foes of evil. Baron, how high did you say you flew up? So I had haste on, and I think haste affects the fly speed of the broom, too. This is a question I had.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Or does it just stay where it is? I think it's my speed, so I don't know. It's a real question. I would assume the broom doesn't go faster. Okay. Then I'm probably about 30-something feet in the air. I don't know. All your forms of movement increase.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah. The broom becomes my form of movement? What is it called? The broom of flying? Yeah. I don't think it's... The target of haste is only people. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Broom is able to fly. Broom can travel any destination. The broom of flying has a speed of 40 when it has no rider. Yeah, no, it's just your movement. So you are... So I was hasted to 40. So then I'm probably like 30. If I move back five feet at an angle,
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm probably like 35 feet in the air, let's say. 35 feet in the air. Okay, this is why I'm asking. Yeah. Because this giant's going to close the distance. Sure. It has 15 feet of reach. Now I'm going to see with its height, can it hit you?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Because if it can, I might want to like cleave down. Oh. Use cleave. I like that. A vertical cleave. I'll probably miss both of you because you have the highest ACs, but I think it'd be a cool move. I love it.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I just don't know. How tall they are? 18 feet tall. And you're 35 feet up. And they have 15 feet of reach. Oh, yeah. I'm two feet outside of the reach! Two feet outside of it! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:07:15 Some cloud giants can even reach heights of up to 21 feet, but that's fine. I'm going to go with the 18. It's just going to be one single attack on Sir Will, which is going to miss without a nat 20. Man, if he was wearing heels, he could have done it. If only he looked at him this morning, too.
Starting point is 01:07:32 And he was like, nah. He was just like, I'm going to be exhausted by the end of the day if I'm wearing these. Napoleon Blunt. He has them under his desk. You know, I just, I thought about doing, I thought about doing another Obscuring Mist here. We had a drinks thing after, I was thinking. Nah, I just want to go home. But with Nestor out of the way and Baron.
Starting point is 01:07:55 He left the heels under his desk. Yes. Yeah, you know, I think I am tempted to do Obscuring Mist here. No. Yes, please. I'm going to stay right there, actually. Damn it. I'm going to stay right there and just do one attack on Sir Will,
Starting point is 01:08:13 which is really going to hit within that 20. Better. But I think you're really high right now, 38. No, I miss. What did I have to hit? Was I even close? 46. You're really high right now if you thought that
Starting point is 01:08:26 was gonna hit him 46 so now do you got anyone tell you have to bring it down yeah he brings it down and just this flash of white lights boom you shall not pass that giant steps up and misses it like tried to clip baron on the way down and uh just scra beneath the broom, came down and crashed onto the ground next to Sir Will. And it is Metra's turn. Okay. What I really want to do... Tell me what you want. What you really want.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Misread the thing I want to do again. Just read the thing I want to do again. Just read the thing I want to do. We have fought a lot of these guys. A lot of cloud giants in this place. And I just don't understand. If they were supposed to be good, did they all get turned by Volstis? Turned?
Starting point is 01:09:21 Or were these ones bad already? And they came in and took over the castle? Did these guys work here before? Well, you remember what Renfaw said, like when... Renfaw says a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:09:32 He does say a lot of things. He says a lot. But when Azarth died, there was a struggle for power where basically Nalbia, his wife, was like, I'm taking over.
Starting point is 01:09:43 And there were people that were loyal to Azarth that was like, this doesn taking over. And there were people that were loyal to his art that was like, this doesn't seem like a good idea. So it caused a schism in the community. And that left it perfect for Nalbia and her brother to bring on the Stormtitan and cause a risk. So some people chose to go one
Starting point is 01:09:57 way, some people died. It is still the craziest backstab that you've ever told us about when Nalbia went out to Remphal and was like, we gotta land to fix the castle. And that's when they shot in the spikes. I was rereading my notes. That's just so cold. It's cold.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Yeah. Renfall died because he was on the side that said, come on. And there were other giants that went with Renfall, but they fell. They Ren fell. I'm going to I can't do what I want to do. It's too well. Is it life hard? Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:27 It is. So instead, I'll cast Chain Lightning. Oh, yeah! Against Sir Will and Baron? And Lexington. Well, Sir Will is great. A lot of metal armor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:38 All right, Chain Lightning. What is my soon-to-be-failed save? Reflex. Okay. Oh, I did pretty good before. That's a Nat Troy on the first one. Oh, man. Because we know that's Joe's die.
Starting point is 01:10:49 That's Joe's die. I didn't actually hand it to him. So then the second one rolled a 13. Fail. That's a fail. Nice. Okay. Also the Vortex.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Oh, the Vortex. Okay. That's fair. That is going to be the little whirlwind, Johnski. The little bird told me that that was a 16. That's a fail as well. Wow. Poop. Crappy reflexes for vortex.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Let's just roll these dice. 16 D6. Alright, that's 64 points of damage for the ones that failed. Oh my. 32 for the dude that succeeded. Okay, and the one that's right next to Baron and Sir Woll is the one that failed. Oh, my. 32 for the dude that succeeded. Okay. And the one that's right next to Baron and Sir Woll is the one that failed. And then the other one takes 32.
Starting point is 01:11:31 He's been really hurt. Okay. Are you moving at all? You have to move to fly, right? I have to move to not have to roll a fly check. So I will arc a little bit. I'll stay up close to the ceiling. I'll run my hand along the fake sky
Starting point is 01:11:46 As I fly, just for flavor's sake But then I'll kind of arc up Back towards the battle Okay I'll put myself there Okay, so you've arced back A little bit towards the battle Welcome to the battle, Metra
Starting point is 01:12:01 Top of the next round It is Nestor's turn. So are they saying, do they mean that you have to be friends with their friends before you can date them? Who is saying this? I was still thinking about the Spice Girls song. Yeah, you got to get with my friends. But does it mean like you have to be, that's what I'm still thinking about the Spice Girls song. Yeah, you gotta get with my friends. But does it mean like you have to be, that's what I'm saying. You gotta get with my friends.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Do you have to date all my friends first to see if you're cool and then you can go out with me? You have to test your wiener gymnastics on my friends. Or does he just, they have to be, this is like, yeah, this guy's all right. That was confusing as a child, I remember. As a teen. I'm still hung up on what zig-a-zig-a means. Zig-a-zig-a. That to me is the clearest part of the number. Really? Here's the
Starting point is 01:12:53 other thing. We call it a number? A number? What are you, 80 years old? You know, the thing that's confusing me about that number, I was in the pictures. It's not an excellent number, it's an old one Have you heard this new Spice Girls number? Here's the thing that confuses me
Starting point is 01:13:10 If you want to be my lover, you've got to get with my friends Got to get with my friends Make it last forever Friendship never ends So what are they talking about? What's it? It's unclear I think it's make your relationship last forever because her relationship with her
Starting point is 01:13:27 friends is never going to end. So you better like get with their friends because they're going to be friends for life. Or they say that the relationship you form with her friends also has to last forever because now you're friends. Exactly. Well, there's no casual dating in Spice World because like everyone they go out with has to last forever. Yeah. It's the same as their friendship with all the other Spice Girls. David Beckham and Hot Spice World. Because everyone they go out with has to last forever. As the same as their friendship with all the other Spice Girls.
Starting point is 01:13:47 David Beckham and Tom Spice have been together forever now. David Beckham got with her friends. Not to mention, they're just saying, if you want to be my lover. Not necessarily a long-term relationship. I just want to have casual sex as your lover. And I've got to be friends with all your Lucas friends? You know what? They do sound annoying. I don't want to be friends with a baby.
Starting point is 01:14:09 And that one's scary. That's a scary one. I'm scared by that one. Are you for real? I won't be hasty. I'll give you a try. If you really bug me, then I'll say goodbye. Well, there it is.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Slam your body down and wind it all around. Slam your body down and wind it all around. Slam your body down and wind it all around. All right, so Nestor is going to move at a diagonal angle. So again, this vortex is sort of blocking off this entire corridor where he's kind of retreated to. So he can't hit anything on the other side and he's truly pinned. He's still stuck in it. So he's... Okay, he's going to move through it again
Starting point is 01:14:52 the opposite way. Go closer to the giants. Get sort of behind Baron and angle. Oh boy. I can't, no, I can't do it. There's nothing else I can do because otherwise I'm just, like, hiding. Oh! So he stands directly behind Baron if Baron was on the ground.
Starting point is 01:15:09 But Baron's up in the air! Oh, no, no, no. Okay, so he's actually going to go, like, southern towards the one that's been hit a couple times before. The southernmost one. He's going to move along the wall, get just out of the vortex, and again, can only do a single attack. And he's a five foot step away from the full attack, John. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:15:32 We haven't even fought Malbia yet. Yeah. This sucks. This really sucks. I mean, there's nothing else I can do except hide. You know? I have a plan. I just need to take her around to get there.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I like Skid's determination to represent what he sees as true to Nestor. And I like... Yeah, I mean... Nestor would hate hiding. Yeah. At this... Right now, yeah, he wouldn't want to. So he...
Starting point is 01:16:02 Actually... Could I stealth through the vortex since he can't see me in it? So I can get a sneak attack? I think that's fair. It's a classic stealth versus perception of this giant you're trying to hit. Okay. Absolutely. He's looking in the air at Baron or down at Sir Will.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I love it. Okay. That is a 49. It doesn't see you. Okay. Oh my god, you see this dark shape come out of the mist slowly. So you are, it's flat-footed against you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:35 That is a 38 against regular AC. That is a hit. Okay. With the stink attack, John! That is 48 points of damage. Yeah! Because I also, because of the sniper goggles, if I'm within 30 feet, I get an extra two points for each die of my sneak attack damage. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:01 All right, so that guy is in bad shape. And that's probably good, because he is a five-foot step away from a full attack on both Sir Will and Nestor, because of that 15-foot reach. Baron, just floating above everything, but will be able to full attack next round. And it is that round for Baron. so baron what do you do well i need to do a hover check to stay in place and do a full round attack action do i not you do yes okay so that's plus four with the broom based on its caster level it's dc 15 to hover yep what's your fly bone 17 is total so that all right so you are able to hover all right i'm gonna rain down terror on the one right beneath me because he's the only one within range of touch
Starting point is 01:17:53 i could fire against regular ac no take him out take out the guy right beneath me this guy yeah okay here it comes it's a hit Uh That's only uh 27 points of damage terrible 27 points of damage okay Second attack is also a hit For 34 points of damage
Starting point is 01:18:18 Nice Okay Don't you take The third attack is a critical threat Shut up Joe shut up Joe shut up Joe shut up Joe let's confirm this
Starting point is 01:18:29 critical critical critical threat 17 on the confirm that is a confirm critical critical
Starting point is 01:18:37 I like that at this point Troy doesn't even have to play with Grant let me know what it's all about let me know what it's all about yeah just just read off damage.
Starting point is 01:18:50 All right, let's get into that ranged crit game from the niche. All right, let's do... Oh! Let's do Thiago from Portugal. I believe Thiago sent me a die a long time ago. Thiago Silva? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Thiago from Portugal. I believe Thiago sent me a dialogue. Thiago Silva?
Starting point is 01:19:05 Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Thiago. I believe that was Thiago. From Portugal. Did you see that attack? You proceed your attack with an inspiring speech and strike the target. Speech. Speech.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech.
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Starting point is 01:19:19 Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. Speech. same target in the next 1d3 rounds benefit from exploding dice. Whoa, wow.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Wow. That's a fun crit. That's fun. Even though this thing is going to be dead. Did you see that attack? Yeah, so it's four times damage. But first, the speech. You think you're a storm tyrant and you're going to come in here and blow away all the small folk? Well, I'm
Starting point is 01:19:46 a typhoon and I'm about to wash your ass back out to sea, Volstice. Here comes the times for it. You're going to wash my ass? You like washing asses? Volstice threatened to wash my ass?
Starting point is 01:20:02 Water imagery from a door. Also, it must be so deflating for that giant who's actually fighting him that like Baron's yelling at the giant and just yelling at Vols. Yeah, it's like I'm not even talking to you. I'm not even talking to you. I'm not going to bother even addressing you. I have a name.
Starting point is 01:20:22 122 points of damage. Oh my god. This explodes Oh phenomenal Phenomenal How many attacks do you have left? Two attacks left under the effects of haste Oh get it So I will use two points of
Starting point is 01:20:41 Grit to resolve against Touch AC against this giant but i will take a minus two to my attack because it is outside my first range increment you gotta point a grit back just now though true uh but i was full at the top of the day that is a 25 against touch ac 25 against touch burning that sweet grit that is a hit okay. Okay, it's worth it. Worth every sweet little penny. 34 points of damage. Okay. Second attack.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Don't. Missed fire. Oh, no! Oh, no! No! What a terrible turn. Oh, no. God. I just wish you would contribute. That's why i don't like coming to these sessions anymore just so much these turns like these make it awful for me this is just depressing
Starting point is 01:21:33 okay okay okay all right so possibly the killing blow is instead a misfire and that is the end of your turn and that guy is but that guy still threatens with a full attack on nester yeah fine we're fine oh yeah but sir will's gonna get to act before he's dead sir will i'll be interested to see what sir will does i'll tell you what sir will won't do roll a natural one oh you can happen guaranteed. Won't happen. Guaranteed. Won't happen. Okay. All right. Cool. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Here's what's going to happen now. Oh, no. I don't like what's happening. You see how unfazed he was by the death of the first giant? He actually was just happy to get it off of his board. What you guys didn't get to see, because you're listening to this instead of watching it, is that through the entirety of Grant's turn,
Starting point is 01:22:32 Troy was just buried in his iPad. Not even listening. Preparing for the next way he's going to try to kill us. Do you think we should take it to heart that all Troy does every week is try to kill us? Yeah. It wears away at you over time. It affects you psychologically. heart that all Troy does every week is try to kill us? Yeah. I think it
Starting point is 01:22:45 wears away at you over time. It affects you psychologically. Yeah. It's like, I love this character. Why do you keep trying to kill it? Week after week. Every one of my other friends tries to help me win together and defeat evil. This one friend
Starting point is 01:23:03 I have constantly tries to kill my character and my story of good triumphing defeat evil. This one friend I have constantly tries to kill my character and my story. Yeah. Of good triumphing over evil. He's still just reading. Yeah, we can only feel for so long. We can only kill so much time. I appreciate it. Well, I think now's a good time to ask the question.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Well, to explain. So here's a story from A to Z z you want to get with me you got to listen carefully we got em in the place who likes your face we got g like mc who likes it on easy v doesn't come for free she's a real lady and asked for me well you'll see you'll see who's saying who said that who's saying mel mel c that's mel's mel c that was sporty spice i Mel C? That's Mel C. That was Sporty Spice, I believe. Okay. Behind the one remaining cloud giant, a form begins to appear. The form of a beautiful female cloud giant.
Starting point is 01:24:03 It's Mel B. She looks like this. Oh, come on. Why can't she be cool? Oh, come on, man. I'm a little unnerved by the spell in one hand and the sickle in the other. Yeah, that's a big Soviet symbol. Oh, that's her bird.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Yes, and you do see in this image, that's the bird that turned into a whirlwind. Is into a whirlwind I see Oh she might be a witch And she Now she would have evil eyed the shit out of all of us As she appears she seems to be like Moving in and out of
Starting point is 01:24:36 Existence Displacing One of those don't hit me spells Almost winking in and out Blink and you'll miss it. And she looks at her hand, and you see as she's coming out of invisibility to her hand, she looks at her hand,
Starting point is 01:24:54 and a fistful of stars appear in her hand. And she just takes them and... blows them upwards towards Metra. And we'll see you next week. Oh, what did you just do? What have you done? Do you know what you've done? Thanks for listening to the Glass Cannon Network. For more podcasts and live streams, visit glasscannonnetwork.com.
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