The Glass Cannon Podcast - Glass Cannon Radio #23 – Captain America/Indie RPGs/Best Fictional President

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

To celebrate Independence Day, Joe and Jared discuss the 65 years of Captain America and some of the best independent RPGs on the market. Plus, a thoroughly American argument about the coutry's best city, and a throwdown to determine the best fictional president of all time! 0:00 Intro12:29 Three Questions35:57 Captain America1:13:08 Indie RPGs1:39:47 GM Fiat1:49:26 Listener AwardWatch the video here:   https://youtu.be/Tq6dzivIs5I  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah. Uh, just kidding. Policy. Just kidding. We're going to stay off that political stuff because I know you guys don't like it when we get political. Um, uh, welcome to Glass Cannon Radio, the show where the Naish and you are a member of the Naish, if you are watching or listening to this, the Naish gets to chime in and tell

us what they think of the topics at hand where we talk about everything in the nerdosphere. And today, it's gonna be a good one. Joe, are you ready for this? Are you ready for this jelly? I am psyched, man. I'm psyched.

Among the big holidays, you know, you got the Christmas, Thanksgiving, you know, New Year's for a lot of people. Man, right below those for me, 4th of July. I'm a big 4th of July fan. I know it's hot and sweaty and gross, but I love the tradition of a day where it really feels, unlike some other holidays, of course, outside of Christmas

and Thanksgiving, it feels like everybody is off on the 4th of July. Like everybody's always off and- A little off. A little off. And you just always have that great, like it's a barbecue vibe. It's like a barbecue essential,

like you gotta have a barbecue party. And I love barbecues. So yeah, 4th of July is a favorite of mine. And how great to celebrate the country. So yeah, 4th of July is a favorite of mine. And how great to celebrate the country. Because all of us always agree with the direction the country is going in and the decisions it's made in the past. Sure, sure, sure.

You know what? You can skew negative all you want, but let's focus on the positive for a second. At least for me. I'll throw this out there for you. I've asked this before on another show and I'm just curious what your response is. Have you seriously considered, and I mean seriously, like actually living forever in another country? Oh, no way.

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So shut the fuck up and stop bitching about America America you're allowed to have negative opinions on the country In fact, you're more entitled to your negative opinion of the country if you've decided to never leave it Yeah, agree. You're more entitled to them Yeah, but we had this conversation before among some some but I think it was on getting the trunk and It was like as much as we bitch and're like, yeah, but America's pretty sweet.

Like to live in. I just, I just feel like I wouldn't want to really go somewhere else. Not because I do think that there are other places that are better, you know, but I feel like you need to stick to your, your country. You know, you need to like through fair and foul. Yeah. When you love it, when you hate it, you know, it's a marriage. It's a marriage. It's a marriage. Exactly. For better or for worse. So here we are. It's a better or worse too. I mean, we're coming up on the real, a real big one. So this year, 249, next year, 250 years.

Do we start the big one? Is it 250 special? I feel like after 200, really, it's all butter after that. I think 250 is pretty, I'll tell you what, they're gonna make a big deal out of it. I'll tell you that much. On every, on every network, every parade, every, they're gonna make a real big deal out of 250. Yeah, yeah, Trump's gonna have a military parade. they're gonna make a real big deal out of 250. Yeah, yeah, Trump's gonna have a military parade. Oh yeah, probably.

I hear they're gonna celebrate it on his birthday. So that's 250, all right, well great. Yeah, I mean, the founding fathers, fireworks, yeah, barbecue's really the main reason I like it. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's hamburgers and hot dogs. Yeah the main reason I really love 4th of July, because it's like, you're guaranteed to have a burger that day. And I love that. I mean, I'm guaranteed to have a burger most days, but I'm guaranteed to have three on the 4th of July. So exactly. Sorry, go ahead. No, I mean, when I used to drink, it used to be also, you know, day drinking, you know,

you can kind of, you could put away a couple while the sun was still out. That was fun. You know, the downside of 4th of July as a work holiday is that it doesn't really crush, um, mid week, right? Thanksgiving is all always awesome because it's always on Thursday, and you know, a decent amount of jobs out there, you're going to get off on Friday. Right. Christmas, you know, is there's going to be some leeway there, you might get some extra days off because it's around Christmas. But when the Fourth of July is on like a Wednesday,

you got to go to work the next day, and you go to work the day before. And so you can't get after it as much, but you know, uh, this year, awesome 4th of July on a Friday, July on a Friday, you can have a hell of a throw down party and then have off the next day. When I was drinking, when I was in my twenties and thirties and I was drinking and I was single and I was celebrating Halloween, I always thought it was insane that you didn't get the day after Halloween off. Yes, I agree. Let me tell you something. I was taking it off or I was at least taking the first three hours of my job off.

100%. Um, so, uh, add more days off is my point. Also, we should all get election day off while we're on national things. Why don't we get election day off? It's insane. Some people can't get out of their work. Yeah. Anyway. Anyway, we have a great show today and uh we're gonna talk about all kinds of things. First, we're gonna start with three questions. Joe's gonna ask me three

questions and we are gonna discuss. We'd love to hear your opinions as well. Then, in honor of Independence Day and the country, we're going to talk about Captain America, the comic book character and the film. So feel free to jump in and weigh in on that. Then after that, oh my God, Joe, I just, oh, in the honor of independence, we're going to talk about indie RPGs. Independent publishers. Yes.

That are not cow-towing to the big corpse. Right. That are making what they wanna make in this beautiful free country we live in. We're gonna talk about what's great about them, maybe some drawbacks to them, your favorites. We're gonna get into all of that. And then finally, I have a GM Fiat.

I have a little editorial today on an RPG related topic. But before we jump into our topics for today, Joe O'Brien, do we have a contest question today? We do. We have a contest question today because we want to celebrate the Fourth of July and get you guys something pretty sweet. And so in order to pick our prize winner, we're going to have a contest question today. What's that prize? I want to start with the prize first cause it is dope this week in celebration of indie RPGs. We are going to gift the best answer to our question

today. Whoever has the best answer to the question today, we are going to gift the full-blown roll big or go home RPG mega bundle that Humble Bundle is offering right now. Now this is a bundle of 57 items, I think nearly all of which are RPG core rule books basically. All kinds of RPGs from Transformers to Cyberpunk Red to Avatar Legends, Weird West, Deadlands stuff, Warhammer fantasy, Dishonored role playing. I mean, dude, the Call of Cthulhu Keeper. So it's not all indie RPGs necessarily, but what a collection. And the best part about

it is as we gift that to you, also part of that gift goes to support Extra Life, which we love. You know, we're big fans of Extra Life here. So support charity, get some, a huge humble bundle out to a winner today. So that's going to be awesome. And in order to get that humble bundle, 57 games. Wow.

In PDF form, you're going to have to come up with the best answer to today's question in honor. Now remember, remember the best answer to today's question in honor. Now remember, remember, the best answer is something everybody knows, but nobody thought of. Yeah, that's- So it, I'm gonna go ahead and say it right now, Joe. It is not from a manga or anime, okay? Just letting you know. It's just not.

There are too many of those, and only you and your friends have heard of the one you're talking about, all right? And then I would say the alternate is like, sometimes there's things that just everybody's heard of, and you're the first to say it, and it's a great answer. So it's possible, but most likely, you're gonna win if we're blown away

because we didn't think about your answer, but it's a great answer that we know. Anyway, in honor of Independence Day, in honor of America, today's question is going to be give us the best fictional president, the best fictional US president. Actually, I don't even think they have to be a US president. I'm going to say that a best fictional. If you come up with an idea that is not a US president. I'm going to say that. Best fictional president. If you come up with an idea that is not a US president, but is titled a president and is a great character, we would love to hear from you. And well, the best answer today gets this amazing 57 book Humble Bundle. Yeah. What's your fictional president, Joe? My fictional president, I'm going to go with

a really big one that I my first thought, and I was like, this could win if somebody picked it for me. I'm just going to take Jed Bartlett off the board. Already off the board. Already off the board. I have to I have to remove it

so that it's not floating out there, because it would be very hard for me to vote against Jed Bartlett. I just love Jed Bartlett. It's a great president. Also, unfairly unfair amount of content that guy got to have compared to some great fictional US presidents that just had a two hour movie. That was an epic series. So yeah, and don't put any presidents in chat. Try to avoid that because it kind of ruins it for everybody. And when we see it, we basically will not give that one an award. chat try to avoid that because it kind of ruins it for everybody and when we see it

we basically will not give that one an award so try to think about that as well. All right, what's yours Jared? Mine is, I don't know if this is obscure or a big one, I think it's obscure, sometimes my brain is too obscure. Prez Rickard, do you know Prez Rickard Joe. No, Prez Rickard. DC Comics in the 70s published a comic book called Prez about an 18 year old president. That was the whole comic. Like what if the president was 18 years old and the name of the comic was Prez and the character was Prez Rickard. And it was like, what if the flower power generation got control of the U S government? And I've always loved Prez.

I recommend going and reading it. It's far out, baby. It's far out, baby. All right, Jared, not taking a winning answer off the board. That's under the list of obscure, but very obscure. Okay. That's obscure, but interesting. I can't tell. I might. My, that's obscure, obscure, but interesting. I can't tell I might my

my compass is off, you know. Okay, so how do you spell it? Is it P R E Z? P R E Z you got it. And is it R I C K A R D? Yes, it is R I C K A R D. AwesomeA-R-D. Awesome. Prez, record, good to know. Yeah, anyway, alright, let's start it off today with three questions. Three questions for you. My first one is whatchamacallit, is Independence Day themed. Is America themed? But then I'm going to move off of that quite quick. Here we go. Question number one.

What is the greatest American But then I'm going to move off of that quite quick. Here we go. Question number one. What is the greatest American city? Oh, the greatest American city. What a fantastic question because they all, I mean, I think all of the big cities in America, I've been to all, I think I've been to most of them. I know. That's why I asked you. You've been to a lot.

You've been to a lot of cities. I've been to most of them. So all of them have great things about them, but all of them have drawbacks too. Okay, so I'm going to say, I have an answer really quickly. What's your first gut? I'm going to say the drawback to this city is that it's become too expensive to live there because it is such a sought after city, because it is such an incredible city, and I'm going to say a place I've never lived, San Francisco, California, greatest American city.

And if you go and walk its streets and you go to Golden gate park and you go up on the Hills and look out over San Francisco bay. And if you take a tour of Alcatraz, if you go to the comedy clubs there, you will see that San Francisco, California is the, it's at least the most beautiful city in the United States. And, um, because of this, all of the richest people decided to set up business there and now it's unaff decided to set up business there, and now it's unaffordable to live there. But I think that's for a reason.

I think that they chose that location for a reason. So San Francisco is my answer. Great answer. Great answer. I think, man, that I always tell people when they ask, what cities do you love to visit on tour? And I always say San Francisco is one of the tops in terms of sheer absolutely beauty. Just beautiful, like everywhere you look. Incredible history, you know, incredible history. Yeah. Okay, let's move

into RPGs for a second. Let's take a dip into RPGs. And specifically, I mean, this could be Pathfinder. This could be D&D, you can kind of like take it how you want. I asked a similar question to this a month or two ago as we were sort of batting between casters, caster types that you prefer. Yeah. Today I'm gonna, I want your take and you can make this Pathfinder,

you can make this D&D or just in general, fighter or barbarian. Oh, so you just picked my two favorite classes. I really love both of those classes. You love both those classes. So if you have to choose one to play, like, you know, obviously there's a lot of factors that go into it, but what's, what's better fighter or barbarian? Uh, which one's better? Are you asking me which one is mechanically better?

Because I don't really make distinctions like that. No, you make the distinctions. Well, this is maybe personal. But one of my favorite characters of all time, and I have read almost all of the stories, is Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian. I've read the comics, I've read the short stories. I find barbarians to be personally

more interesting than fighters, because a barbarian is also good at killing things with a sharp object, but a barbarian, there's all kinds of like implied story behind it, cultural implications behind it. You are someone from the outlands, someone who's never been to civilization. You know? And so if you go to a city as a character, you're a fish out of water, you know?

Yet when you're players, when your party goes out to the dungeon way out of the wilders, you're in your element. You know, this is your, this is your land. You have a connection to that land. So there's all of this stuff that connects you to the adventure and it's just implied by your class. Um, uh, it tells story on its own. Um, I prefer a barbarian who is closer to Conan. And by that, I mean a lot of the five E barbarians. Once you get your subclass, there's a lot of ghosts and

energies blasting off. Yeah. I don't really want my barbarian like wreathed in magic. You know, I want my barbarian to be someone, I like rage, rage is fantastic, I'm a big fan, but I don't want magic to happen from the barbarian. I want the barbarian just to be wades in and starts killing right away.

I'd love to hear some takes on this from callers today. I'm curious, I have this,, I lean fighter and you've made a very convincing argument that I might switch the other way. But one of the reasons I lean that way is because I also don't like what I feel is so dominant in 2E, in Pathfinder 2E, is the wreathed in magic of rage-ness and of barbarians in general, I do feel like that's a thing. Perhaps, I haven't played a barbarian in Tui, admittedly. So I could be wrong here. And obviously, I don't wanna say obviously,

I think it's quite possible to build a very, very strong barbarian with no magical like stuff. But I don't know, maybe there isn't, because I feel like so many of the rage powers revolve around generating some sort of magical force or energy through your rage, or pulling generating some sort of magical force or energy through your rage or pulling from some sort of magical force or energy to generate your power. And that's not my favorite take on barbarians.

So if I played one of those, I would want to play it very subtly. Like I will say like 5e has like a barbarian where your ancestors come and help you, you know, like your ancestor spirits. I forget what the name of that subclass is, but I would hopefully be able to play it in some way where my barbarian is just imagining his ancestors and it would make my barbarian a little delusional. I think that's fine. I would be into that, but I don't want actual ghosts blasting out of me and attacking people. That to me is not, that's not a barbarian to me. Okay. Great answer. Final question. We're going to go random here. Random out of the box, out of nowhere. Out of the box. This question just

occurred to me. Out of nowhere. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Do you generally enjoy Quentin Tarantino films? Not only do I enjoy Quentin Tarantino films, but I listen to Quentin Tarantino's video archives podcast and I have probably looked up every Quentin Tarantino interview on YouTube and watched that as well. Great. That's not the question. That's the setup for part two, which is, that's could have gone one in two ways, but the second part is what is Quentin Tarantino's best film? Okay. Uh, I've also read Quentin Tarantino's books, just throwing that out.

Wow. Okay. I did not know that you were such a big Tarantino guy. This is great to know. guy. This is great to know. I think he is a absurd and sometimes comical figure, but I think he is also self-aware and knows that and he's very funny. Speaking as a comedian, funny as talking, but also he makes his films very funny. What is his best film? What a fantastic question. Um, I really like all of them. Really every single one I do enjoy. Some people would say it's his last film. I think some people, I think you could make a very good argument for once upon a time in Hollywood.

And certainly a lot of my friends who also like Tarantino would say that one. But I got to go back to what I think is an early hit. The one that really put him on the map, Pulp Fiction. I think Pulp Fiction is perfect from start to finish. I love it. So I'm going to go Pulp Fiction. Okay. That's, that's fascinating to me. Fascinating because I, when I thought about this question, my first thought was, and I am NOT a Tarantino-ophile, and like I've not even seen all of his movies. And I thought about it, but I dig his style. And I

thought about it and I was like, I think that my favorite Tarantino movie might be Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And I was like, but it might be, is it recency bias? You know, because it's new and I just saw it. When I say just saw it, obviously it's been years. But like, and then I came back and I like reassessed and I was like, I have to give it to Pulp Fiction because of how groundbreaking it was to me as a viewer and how it's still today. What a perfectly perfect

film it is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I thought I went through the exact same thought process. What, what, what a compliment to him that you could pick an early film, one of his first or his last one, you know, how rare, how rare in any medium, in any art medium. Yeah. Yeah. So you could pick his last one or an early one. You know, I think there are some that rare, how rare in any medium, in any art medium. Yeah. Yeah. So you could pick his last one or an early one. You know, I think there are some that would lose if you were saying what's the best. You know, I don't, I think few people would pick hateful eight as the best. And yet I really, really love hatefully, you know, and that's one I have not seen.

I did not see. Oh, really? And you like Westerns, don't you? Yeah, I do. I do. Okay. Well, it's a, it's, it's, it's long. You know, that's the only thing. I don't mind long. I don't mind. That's why people might not give it the number one spot, but I really, and it's a winter Western. The snow's coming down. Oh, Kurt Russell. Forget about it.

We'll come back one day. We'll come back one day. And as I thought of this question, I was like, we're going to have to come back and do a whole Tarantino thing on the show. We'll do that at some point. But yeah, what should we call it? Rema in chat in Discord chat says tons of people say Inglorious Bastards is his best. I think that you could make a great argument for Inglorious Bastards. Absolutely. And then he says they're wrong, it's pulp fiction. So yeah, it really is.

How impressive of a resume to have that it could go that deep. And then the other one I thought, and I thought this exact thing, Drogonoth, in Discord chat says, honorable mention to Reservoir Dogs. Reservoir Dogs is incredible. That was another one that when I saw it, I mean, I think I saw it probably with McD like the first time I saw it. And I was

just like, what is this? Like, how is this even? How does this even exist? Joe, you want to know something hilarious? In college, I was in a play of reservoir dogs. My buddy, Nick, who I still play games with over zoom and stuff like that, Nick Dobbins, who lives in Nashville, Tennessee, he adapted. He, uh, wait, it was him and my friend Phil adapted reservoir dogs to a play and, um, people even had like blood packs that would keep like bleeding during the play and everything. Um, yeah, I was Chris Penn's role, you know, Chris Penn. Yeah.

Yeah. I was, that was my, he like Chris Penn doesn't go out, right? He's like, uh, he's an inside guy. He's the big boss's son. Right? He's the big boss's son. Yeah. Yeah.

That's who I played. Did you ever see speaking of Chris Penn and what's his face, come on, who's Mr. God damn it. Mr. Pink? Yeah. Mr. Pink is Buscemi. No, not Mr. Pink then. British actor, the guy who gets shot.

Timothy Roth. Yeah, Tim Roth. Did you ever see Chris Penn and Tim Roth in Deceiver? Do you ever see this movie? No, no. Big D, Big D, get on the mic. Deceiver. It what a film. Who else? Who's the girl? It's never heard of it. A young.

It's oh, she's like, yeah, famous. Very famous. I can't remember. But anyway, yeah, it's it's it's a nice. Right. Yeah, it's Renee, yeah, famous. Very famous. I can't remember. But anyway, yeah, it's a terrific guy. Renee Zellweger, right? Yeah, it's Renee Zellweger. It's a young Renee Zellweger with Chris Penn, Tim Roth. And you recognize the other guy, too. I can't remember his name.

Michael. Yes, Michael. Michael Rooker. Michael Rooker. Oh, he's awesome. I know. So dude, that's the movie. It's in it, too. That's right, Rosanna R. I'm writing it down right now. She's Michael Rooker's awesome. I know. So dude, that's the movie. It's a film. Rosanna Arquette's in it too.

That's right. Rosanna Arquette. I'm writing it down right now. She's Michael Rooker's wife. Yeah, you got to watch this movie. I'm writing it down in my. It's high level absinthe. Yeah, that's right.

I have a list called Media Lists Want to Watch or Read. And is this a neo-noir film? What category should I put it in my notes? It's neo-noir, for sure. It's a neo-noir film? What category should I put it in? It's neo-noir for sure. It's a neo-noir. How could I guess with that cast? What else could it be? Deceiver, putting it right down here. Oh God, this particular list is getting long now.

Yeah, you know, McDermott, I don't think I've watched it in 20 years, at least 30 years. And so I wonder if it holds up, but man, we loved it in high school. We used to rent that a lot. Remember there were the $2 movie nights, $2 Tuesdays at the video store. And it was like L.A. video or something. L.A. video. We used to see what got rented.

It was $2 Tuesdays. You guys are dating yourselves. For sure. For sure. Because you actually went to video stores. All right. Let's get let's take a call before we move into Captain America here. Because a lot of people are raising their hand. And before you come in there. Anything you have on the three questions, let us know.

Anything you've got on the three questions. Is there a better city than San Francisco? I doubt anybody has an opinion on that. What about Fighter versus Barbarian or Tarantino's best film? Before we do, though, McD, take an answer off the board for best fictional president. Okay, well before Jared's caveat,

I was gonna do the obvious, and that's Kenneth Jukichi Yamaoka from Eagle, the making of an Asian American president, the long running manga, but Jared said no. So obviously, I mean, it was like so front door. I get why you did that. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But it's creative answers.

Right. No, no, no. Yeah. You know, like of an Asian American president. Eagle. Yes, correct. I mean, obviously. But I'm going to go with I'm going to go with Dave.

Yeah. The movie Dave. Great. great answer. Now, there is a little caveat there, which is right. He's not the president. It's interesting. Yeah, I still think that he play. He also plays the president. Kevin Klein, he does.

He does. But I don't mean President Mitchell. I mean, Dave, you mean Dave. Dave is a arguably the best president, fictional president ever. He is Dave. Axis, the man president. Yes. To enact things as the president. So he's a president. That's true. If you haven't seen Dave and deceiver, get on that.

Yeah. Get on the D's. What a double feature. I mean, Dave, Dave, I saw Dave. I want to say like a year or two ago, it holds up. Sigourney Weaver is wonderful. Man, it's so good. Ving Rhames is fantastic. That's right. Ving Rhames. He's awesome. Cool. What a great

movie. Okay, so let's get into it. Let's let's take a call here. Yeah, people got people got things they want to say. Frank wants to say something. Named simply Frank. Frank. Hello, can you hear me? Hey, we got you, Frank. Welcome to the show.

How you doing? Good, good. Long time listener, very long time listener, first time caller from Houston, Texas. Awesome. Good to have you. Good to have you. I'm down here because I'm tired of driving all the way

up to Dallas. Is Houston, uh, better than San Francisco? Well, you know, that is a very weird answer to it. Uh, because honestly, I don't think I've ever heard of Houston having a app where you can find where all people have pooped in the streets. So maybe. can find where all people have pooped in the streets. So maybe. So maybe.

San Francisco has an app where you can do that. Yeah, there's an app where you can spot the poop on the street and you can see how many people have pooped on that street. It's very weird. It's like a yelp for poop. And that's San Francisco has that you're saying. Yes, I think so.

Yet another convenience of San Francisco. Yet another way that it is a superior city. A superior city. Find out where the best places to poop on the street are. Frank, what did you want to call for? Sorry, I jumped you there with the question. What do you want? what did you want to call for? Sorry? I jumped you there with the question What do you want? What do you want to talk about? That's okay? Probably one of my favorite Fiction of presidents and with the holiday coming up. I think it's very appropriate to do Bill Pullman in Independence Day

Absolutely great answer. Do you remember the characters names? Yeah, president Thororn Whitmore. Oh no, sorry, yeah. It sounds made up. Yes, absolutely. Thorn, his name is Thorn? No, Jay Whitmore, Jay Whitmore. Jay Whitmore, okay.

Jay Whitmore. All right. Okay, great. That's a great answer, man. And you got anything else or can we let you go? No, that's it. I just want to say love the channel been listening since you know episode 3 of the original campaign So just love you guys. I would love to see you down in Houston sometime awesome. Thanks for all right I love to go down to Houston. I've got some friends in Houston. I like Houston.

Some really good friends in Houston. Come see us in San Francisco, Frank. All right, let's get Cody in here. Cody, what's going on? Is this Cody from Vegas, Cody? Trying to look at your picture there. Cody. Oh yeah, that's- Cody from Vegas, Cody. Yeah, what's up, Cody? Good to see you, guys. What's up, Cody? Trying to look at your picture there. Cody. Oh yeah, that's Cody from Vegas, Cody.

Yeah, what's up, Cody? Good to see you, Cody. What's up? I will say, for the city, it's gonna be Vegas. Okay. Vegas, you think Vegas is the greatest city in the United States?

Yes. Cody loves call girls. Cody loves paying for sex. Right. Right. Cocaine and call girls. Cody. Yep. That's what the C's are for. Yeah. There is an old, I came across an old, uh, Norm McDonald on like Conan back in the day. I think it was Conan.

It was definitely a late night show back in the day where he talks about, he's like, have you ever heard that saying, whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? He's like, I didn't know what that meant, but now I know. Now I know what it means. What does it mean, Norm? It's like, it means that you can have sex with a prostitute and she won't tell your wife. Just in this very dry, Norm MacDonald fashion. Cracked me up, it was so good. We wish you luck with your gambling addiction, Cody.

We know it destroys families, it destroys lives. So good luck with that. Good luck with that. Oh yeah, I know, it destroys families. It destroys lives. So, so good luck with that. Good luck. Oh yeah. I know. Yeah. Give us a, uh, give us a great fictional president. Um, it's definitely going to be, I actually was going to do Thomas Whitburn. Uh, but I will go with my alternate Morgan Freeman from deep impact.

All right. I remember, you know, the character's name. Yes. Uh, president back president back from deep impact. All right. Do you know the character's name? Yes. Uh, president back president back from deep impact. Well, you know what? I think we've now taken off the board, the fictional presidents that I could name. And by the way, I definitely would have said Morgan Freeman from deep impact. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Thanks for the call, Cody. It is, I am not going to nail people down on character names

here. But if you have a second to IMDB and look it up, please do, because it's fun that way. But I will not hold you to it, because I also don't know all these people's names. Of course. Even if you don't know the actor's name, I don't mind. If you're like the president from and you know the film,

or a TV show, then that's fine as well. Uh, all right, let's take one more and then we're going to keep moving the show along. Rima had a good comment earlier about Tarantino. Rima, uh, what's going on buddy? Hey, Rima. All right. It's too hot. Um, yeah. The best city obviously is Boston. Boston. Boston. Are you out of your fucking mind? Fuck you, Jared. No, no, no. Give me the, give me the argument for Boston. Who that? Hub of the universe. Hub of the universe.

No, no, no. I said an argument, not a nickname that only you use. Oh my god. Jen with two N's is on board with this. Not surprisingly. Chile and just for chat says the same. Sorry, go ahead. Oh, sorry. I just, I lived in West Virginia. I lived in Tennessee. I knew a, sorry. I just, I lived in West Virginia. I lived in Tennessee. I knew a lot of rednecks and hillbillies and they got nothing on the people of Boston. They got nothing on the people of Massachusetts.

The rowdiest bunch of piss kicking brutes. I've ever met. Oh, that is so funny. When would you need to go to Dunkin Donuts and cross the street and go to another Dunkin Donuts? Ah, yeah, go to Dunkin. Yeah. That's your argument. Dunkies. That's your argument that there are a lot of Dunkin Donuts

Rema you got anything on the old fictional president there. I did a McD stole it. Dave is the best answer Yeah, Dave is the best answer. I'm glad he took it because man, I'd be hard-pressed to vote for something else Oh with uh, the the president Dennis Hayes bird played in 24 They even oh, yeah, Great one. Great one. Great one. Good one. He was a great actor. He has a great actor. Yeah. Thanks, Remi. Thanks for calling. And what a good show.

You know, when that first came out, that was a show. I was like, this is so cool. But it's that first season. I remember being like, this is so much fun. Have you ever watched an entire season in twenty four hours? No. That's the only way to watch this show bro. It's the only way to watch it. It's the only way to watch this show. Alright, we're gonna keep taking calls on this guys. Lots to talk about. Your favorite city, your fighter or barbarian, your Tarantino, but in the meantime, let's honor America's birthday by talking a little bit about one of the greatest, most iconic, most recognizable superheroes in all of the

superhero verse, Captain America. Captain America. Cap! So I have been a Captain America fan for a long time. He's probably, he's my second favorite Marvel superhero after the Hulk. And Captain America, he's pretty interesting just as a phenomenon because the age of superhero comics really began in 1938 with Superman, Action Comics number one, but only two years later, before Marvel Comics was a thing, we have the debut of Captain America. And he was one of the first things created by Joe

Simon and Jack Kirby, Jack, the King Kirby, the guy who designed basically the visuals of all of the Marvel characters who are making billions of dollars today. So this is a very early creation of Kirby and Joe Simon. And it was part of timely comics. And the story goes that when Joe Simon, who was kind of the writer on the project, was trying to come up with a character, he said, well, the most important thing for a character is the villain, right? A great superhero needs a great villain.

And then he thought, well, who's the best villain I can possibly think of? And instead of coming up with a costume super villain, he was like, Oh, I know Adolf Hitler. So the first issue of Captain America comics has on the cover, Captain America sucking Hitler in the jaw as hard as he possibly can. So good. And that is an image I think that stays with you and that we should all remember. And it's one of the things that's great about comics is that kind of imagery, right? Yeah. It is a power fantasy, but it's the best kind of power fantasy. People always say comic books are male power fantasies, but I think we can all get behind the male power fantasy of punching Hitler

very hard in the face. Right in the face. And also important to point out for those that are not history buffs, that it was bad. No, that at that time America was not in, uh, in war, uh, at war with Adolf Hitler. Right. Yeah. Hitler was starting all this shit over in Europe and had been at it for basically a couple of years, if not at least one full year of war in Europe. Yeah.

And America was staying out of it because they were like, we don't want to get a bunch of people, a bunch of Americans killed in this thing. But there was a, there was a political movement that, you know, there was an interventionist movement that was like, we need to help these people or else Hitler's going to get out of hand and get too much power, et cetera. Winston Churchill at this time is begging FDR to get in the war. All this stuff is happening. And so Joe Simon creates a character where he's like sending a message through comics. We want to go over and punch that motherfucker in the face. Yes. So anyway, it was a cool time, you know, in history too for that.

It wasn't just a response to what America was already doing. It was a suggestion for what should be done. Right. Um, so the character, um, was a huge hit for them. Um, they made a lot of money on this character. Joe Simon and Jack Kirby didn't make a lot of money on this character, but Timely Comics made a tremendous amount of money on this character, and the character kept going strong until it was canceled. So it started in 1940, and it was canceled in 1950. And the idea was that Captain America

started losing a little steam once the war was over as a character, right? And in fact, toward the end of his run in like the late 40s, no, 1950, he started having horror adventures because horror comics were becoming popular. So they were like issues where Captain America fought Satan and stuff like that. And barring a couple like tiny little resurgences in the 50s, I think there was just one in 1953, the next person to bring them into the comics in a real way

was Stanley in 1964. He brought back Captain America. He came up with the entire cap has been frozen in the ice. You know? Genius, genius. Yes. And he immediately made him the leader of the Avengers, the Avengers, get him out of the ice and Captain America becomes the

leader of the Avengers. And this is part of that silver age, that 1960s comic book thing, where they were going back to the golden age and, and revitalizing characters. DC comics was famous for this. They took the Golden Age Flash. They made a new version of Flash, the kind we know with the full red suit. They took the Golden Age Green Lantern and they brought him back. They made him more of a space hero because space is very 1960s. Well, Stanley did that with Captain America and Stanley also had the great idea because he's been unfrozen, because he's been out of the loop for so long, he gave Captain America

that man out of time sort of theme. And this is my favorite part about this time is that when you revitalize, when you bring Captain America back, it's not just a narrative Deus Ex Machina to get him into the Avengers, you know, from, or whatever, it becomes, he had a war to fight. That was the central purpose of his character.

And once that war was over, it kind of the purpose, the motivation of the character dwindles and it's popular and his popularity dwindles. This invigorates a whole new layer to the character, that man out of time thing that he struggles with as a character that, you know, I didn't, I never read those comics from the 60s, but I loved that aspect of that character in the films that I saw, in the MCU films that I saw, and I thought that, and I didn't know until, you know, doing some research for this,

that that storyline was first brought in the 60s and really elevated Captain America to another new level of interest for audiences. Can I tell you some of the things I really love about the character and by the way I have read those 60s stories because I used to have those big black and white essentials volumes you could buy. They were like $13 and you had like, you know, 100 comics in one like big stack. So Captain America, the things I love about Captain America. First of all, let's talk superpowers. I love that Captain America has the super soldier serum in his veins,

which basically doesn't make him super powered It just makes him like the perfect like as far as a human could possibly go Yeah in terms of strength endurance speed reaction time the super soldier serum doesn't make him super powerful. It makes him like peak human and I think that's a really good power set and how that that manifests in the comics is Captain America is always doing all these flips and jumps. And, you know, they would always draw him like doing a barrel roll over everybody's heads and things like that. That's cool. The shield is awesome. And the shield is because the Captain America had a shield that was pointy in the 1940s comics.

He had like a more of a classic pointy shield, but there was another patriotic comic book character called the shield who had a pointy shield like that on his chest and they threatened to sue timely. And so they changed the shield to a round one. And I think all that shield throwing stuff is fucking so cool. It looks great on a comic book page. It's the kind of thing that just looks fantastic, you know, illustrated, you know, because Marvel Comics were famous for action.

All that kinetic, more so than DC, Marvel Comics had so much, because Jack Kirby was really telling the story. Stan would give up an outline and then Jack Kirby would turn it into action scenes. So things like all of Captain America's jumping around all that shield drawing are perfect for Kirby to just draw fight scenes, draw action scenes. So finally the other thing I like about Captain America is that it's a very kind of espionage comic, right? It's not really about like wild super science like the Fantastic Four. It's not about magic or mythology like Thor. It's about espionage. It's about spies. It's about saboteurs

and all of Captain America's villains. They're also not like super powerful. They're just like shitty people with guns, you know Captain America has to take on crossbones or that rock the leaper, you know These people who are just like mercenaries for hire who are working for the Red Skull or Hydra and Baron Strucker so you're dealing with a lot of like fifth column ideas, like these sort of anti-American revolutionary groups inside the US planning these horrible, you know, coups and things like that. And all of that leads to Captain America. The other thing I really love about him is he's always running from the US government. He's always fighting the US government. Yes. Because by the time we got into the late sixties, people were like, ah, America does a lot of horrible stuff.

And the comic book writers of Captain America, of course, you know, they were on that same wavelength and capped is always running from shield. He's always, uh, he's always fighting his own people because he's always the victim of some sort of conspiracy or something all the way up to civil war. And things like that. So those are the things I love about the character that I think makes him an all time greatest comic book character. makes him an all-time greatest comic book character. And for me, definitely in the top five superheroes ever.

And we haven't even talked about the movies yet, which are some of the best of the Marvel movies. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'll hop in there to just say, thank you for that. That was awesome. Historical review of Captain America. And I just, I learned a lot more about him through my exposure to Captain America was just the video games basically, like the arcade game, the Avengers arcade

game and stuff like that. Yeah, I love that game. Yeah, such a great game. I played it with McD all the time and the, you know, the throwing the shield thing I always thought was weird. Like he was never my favorite. I always liked Iron Man a lot more because Iron Man, you know, shot beams out of his hands and could fly and stuff like that.

And I always thought that that was so cool. Well then the films come out and I watched the first Avenger and oh my God, I just loved it so much. I mean, aside from the weird CGI stuff in the beginning, which was a little weird, but like I didn't know, I never knew the Captain America origin story until I saw the film. Like I didn't realize it's like, he's just a kid from Brooklyn, tries to sign up,

can't cut it physically, he's got these deficiencies, so he becomes probably, but he's got the heart. It's such an easy, great story to suck in a dummy like me. I love that stuff, I love that stuff. And it was just really, really well told. to suck in a dummy like me. I love that stuff. I love that stuff. And it was just really, really well told. And that was just the tip of the iceberg. Cause to me, they only got better.

The Winter Soldier, I hold out as the best movie in all of the MCU films. I think that, you know, I really love Infinity War. I love Infinity War, but I feel like it's so big that it's like, it's kind of on a different level. Among all the other ones that were leading up to Infinity War, Winter Soldier is the best in my opinion. And it's telling, Joe, it's telling that the directors of the Winter Soldier are the ones that were tapped to direct. Infinity War.

Infinity War. Yeah. And Endgame. Yeah. Yeah. Those were the strongest films. Was Captain America, Winter Soldier, Captain America, Civil War, which is really all of Marvel movie, but it's officially a Captain America movie. It's officially a Captain America movie. It's just very cool in Winter Soldier to have him, like to have that concept, because we talk about, you talked earlier

about how Captain America is, somebody mentioned it in Discord chat too, like part of the character, it seems, over years of print is that he seems to be a little ahead of American policy and politics in a way. And America would tend to follow kind of Captain America because he would be the voice of these writers and people that were thinking these things. And then some of these

things will come to pass. And it was just very interesting in Winter Soldier because it's always a product of its time. And at that time, my memory of it is such a major issue is the issues of privacy and social media and cameras everywhere all the time. And everybody tapped into everything everybody else does. And that moral quandary of, you know, should we have a switch where we could watch anybody

at any time, and if they're having any bad thoughts, just kill them. It's a scary concept and it's a really big one to bring up philosophically. And I love that those are the kind of challenges that Captain America has to tackle. And he's on the side of the people that are doing this stuff and that he always, like you said,

he always ends up on the run from the people he's working for. He always has to stand up for what's right, despite the fact that all of his bosses and America in general is being run by the people that are making these choices. Even though Robert Redford is a bad guy. Even though, how could Robert Redford be a bad guy?

Yeah. So great. And then, and then Civil War is one of my, I mean, to me, that was the height before Infinity War of bringing all those heroes together. I remember just watching that airport scene with just my jaw dropped. Like not only how great the action was, but how funny it was, how great the characters were,

how much you knew so much about each individual character that was fighting in that scene. And I just, and that's another cap versus his country situation. Yeah. And the comic book mini series, Civil War as well. I thought it was such a cool, a cool decision to make Iron Man the person that goes along with what the government wants and Captain the authority. And Captain America, the one who goes rogue. He always goes rogue. Another thing about him I just want to point out, and I don't know that this speaks on behalf of the character, Captain America, like Superman, is just always the best guy.

He never has doubt really. He doesn't really, he's not an anti antihero. He never makes some sort of edge case decisions He's always the truest bluest nicest dude you've ever met And I like that in a comic book or in like a kind of a heroic fantasy. I really like that idea So I'm a fan of that kind of character Although I would say like in Captain America, First Avenger, your protagonist doesn't change or learn anything. He's just the best guy all the way through.

Right. Yeah. And you get much more. Yeah, you just get so much more in the Winter Soldier with your ability to make the character make hard, deep choices. This is his friend, his friend is the villain. They have history, but his friend doesn't remember. It's so, so cool. And the Winter Soldier is an anti-hero. The Winter Soldier is a former Soviet assassin trying to make good... And then Sebastian Stan is just one of the greatest actors.

So, so, uh, that's also a great character. And you know, that character, so for decades and decades, Bucky, Captain America's sidekick had been killed and it was sort of, it was sort of fodder for the Captain America character. He would remember that his sidekick in world war two had been murdered and it was, uh, it was a lot of pathos for Captain America And nobody thought you could ever Bring Bucky back. He's one of the two the famous two, right? It was like famous to the only the only two people that can never be brought back or uncle Ben and Bucky Yeah, right exactly

Well, they brought back Bucky, but know, brought back Bucky, Ed Brubaker. And if you're going to read one Captain America run, that is the one that I would point to is Ed Brubaker. I think he had an eight year run on Captain America, mostly drawn by Steve Epting, but it is awesome. It has the whole winter soldier saga of, you know, discovering the existence of the winter soldier and saving him from being a bad guy. And then it has the assassination of captain America saga. And, uh, this is when I lived in New York city around 2008 that I got into

this brew Baker, captain America run. And I was buying like $40 worth of comic books a week, uh, and not making that much money, but I was spending that much on comic books. And I never missed an issue of the brew Baker captain America. It was that good. That's awesome. All right. Let's take some calls.

Let's see. Uh, you know, weigh in on captain America if you want, or the other topics we got lots to talk about out there, it's, it's up to you guys what you want to discuss. Uh, a near bus wreck, a near bus wreck. Uh, if you're there, if you'd like to hop on, join us. Um, can you hear me? Hey, what's going on? Hello.

Hey, hi. I'm great. How are you guys? We're fantastic. Thanks for calling. Thank you. Happy fourth to you guys. And I don't have anything on the topics.

I just wanted to get a president in. Hell yeah. Which honestly, I thought it was a tough question. I was like, oh my gosh, I can't think of a one. And then somebody mentioned that Independence film. And I immediately thought of Mars Attacks. I think everybody needs to see the movie. Oh, here we go. James, hold on. I did look it up. James, oh no.

Oh no, Jen, Jen with two N's. James Dayle, President James Dayle, played by Jack Nicholson. I think everything about that movie was great. Now, I'm nervous, you know that Mars Attacks is the movie that convinced Jen with two N's that she didn't like science fiction. Did you know this? What? No, no.

So Jen with two ends, longtime friend of the show and frequent glass cannon radio listener and caller is to this day, and she's an adult woman. Yeah. Terrified of Mars attacks. She can't watch it. She says it's too scary. We may have to make this. But this was I believe everybody should see it.

It's just you just laugh. Everything about it is the comedy. I don't know. Amazing film that I always forget about. And so thank you to whoever shouted out independence film, because I think it's a spoof. Maybe I don't know. That was my first thought.

And yeah, awesome. Awesome. Yeah, great answer.'re welcome. Awesome, awesome. Great answer, and thanks. Thanks for calling. Thank you, and nervous. Please, yeah, please call again. What should we call it? I might have to pick, we might have to pick President James Dale from Mars Attacks just to make a point to Jen with two N's.

We might have to. We might have to. Squid is here. Hey, Squid. What's up, dude? What's up, Squid? What do you got for us today? Are you there? Can you hear us? No squid. Come on, man. You've been here before. There you are. There he is. Sorry guys. I was eating my Petsy. You. Um, so it's all good. What's what do you got for us today? So my first thought when Joe posed the president question was, uh, president

Dwayne Camacho, because I was thinking of American presidents. Yes. Um, hang on. Hold on. We've got a great answer. Well, he just, we lost him. Well, give him the, give it, put that answer down for him. Because I love that answer.

President Camacho from idiocracy is a great answer. I don't know that one. Oh, you've never seen Idiocracy? No, what's Idiocracy? Add it to Joe's list of movies. Is anybody out there keeping this list for Joe? Because at this point, Joe has one hundred has 148 hours of films. How have you not seen Idiocracy by Mike Judge starring Luke Wilson and Maya Rudolph? Oh, I love all those people.

Okay. Anyway, when you see President Camacho, you'll see what a great answer he is. Okay, fantastic. President Dwayne Camacho, you'll see what a great answer he is. Okay, fantastic. President Dwayne Camacho, I don't know if Squid was setting up another answer, but let me be very, very clear on something. You can't say two answers.

Yeah, guys, stop doing that. You can't say, I was gonna say X, but I'll go with Y. Yeah, don't do that. That's Squid, You should know better. Well, he didn't, he didn't actually do it. It seemed like he was about to do it. He was about to do it. You know, at first I was going to say this answer, taking it off the board,

but instead I'll say this answer. Why do you keep, why do you keep doing that? Don't, don't take an answer off the board for anybody. Aaron, the shark. People keep doing that. Aaron, the shock. What do you got? Don't don't take an answer off the board for anybody Aaron the shark Aaron the shark what do you got? Hey, what's going on Aaron? Yeah coming to you straight out of the greatest city. Oh Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Philadelphia is the greatest city You know, I'm actually I'm faking the funk a little bit, because I've only

lived here for three years. But I'm having a good time. Only after the Phillies win and the cars catch fire is it the greatest city. That's right. It keeps you warm. You know, in October. Not October.

What was it? What am I saying? But anyway. Thank you. Thank you for coming on the show and saying Philadelphia. It's definitely got the greatest sandwich in America saying somebody had to, especially after Boston was mentioned. Come on, get Philly in the mix.

I know. But there were so many Boston mentions in the chat. Yeah. A lot of Boston fans at Glass Cannon Radio. I got to admit there's a lot of our demo. Our demo is very Boston. I will say Boston is a great comedy city because they're all animals. So they get, they get drunk and then they show up.

And if you get the eight o'clock show is great. And then the 11 o'clock show is a nightmare. Do you got something for a fictional president? Yeah, I do. I was going to do Jack Dale. That is my number one, but you know, you know, God, I was taken. So you need to answer a different one. Yeah.

So old school from Dr. Strangelove, uh, Peter Sellers as, uh, president, Birkin Muffley, probably my favorite name of a president. That is a great, I wouldn't have known the name, but it is so him on the phone going, but Demetri. Yes, yes. Will you listen for a second, Demetri. Now is not the time to be losing your head.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome, thank you, Eric. Thanks for calling in, good one. Let's keep it moving. Mr. E. Knight, what he got for us? Good to have you back, by the way. Mr. E. Knight. Or you could just not answer.

And lose your chance to get on the show. Also eating pad see you right now. I imagine that Skid spilled his pad see you. Oh, hello. Okay. I have, I have a great answer. I think you guys are going to recognize this name right off the rip. President Jack Ryan. Oh, it is. Present danger. Good answer.

Played by five Hollywood stars, Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford, Ben Affleck, Chris Pine, John Krasinski Legendary president you missed one Right. Who's that? Did you say Alec Baldwin? Yeah, he did. That was the first one. Okay Yeah, awesome answer. That one is so hard another Jed Bartlett level in that it's almost unfair Because he has so much non-presidential content. Yeah, but he does become the president.

Are you hearing a beep? Nope. Oh, that's me. What the hell happened to Joe? Joe's having some kind of beep situation. It might be like a tornado siren or something. I'm in Oklahoma. What the? Oh, Joe's having some kind of beep situation. It might be like, like a tornado siren or something. I'm in Oklahoma. What the, oh wow.

Yeah. How cool would it be if a tornado takes off the roof while you're, uh oh, do you wanna Google is a tornado headed toward me? Oh shit, well, if the window starts shaking, I'm gonna run out of this room. All right, so. Okay, that's fair. Hey, do you have anything on Captain America on Quentin Tarantino on anything

else we talked about, or is everybody just going to call in for the contest question? That's fine. Okay. Call in for whatever you want to call in for. I think the contest question creates a lot of interesting conversation. No, I want to talk about other things. Old man tizzle. Do you have an answer for Jared?

You got something you want to talk about besides a fictional president? I've got a fictional president president for you, but I do have something to talk about other than that. So I go to great. Yeah. Hit me with the other thing and then we'll get your fiction. He wants to talk Captain America. Oh, great. Yeah. So Captain America, I've he was kind of lower totem on my pole for the Marvel universe.

I've always been an X-Man fan. Problem I love Captain America is that it was this idea that a weak puny kind of kid wasn't good enough and therefore the military had to make him that perfect soldier and then they create him. It kind of gave that idea that like you can't really be successful unless you are perfection So I've always preferred X-Men because they were always the lovable losers that never fit in But I think Captain America evolved and changed and started to do that My question for you guys is how do you feel about the way Captain America's evolved? you guys is how do you feel about the way Captain America's evolved, especially in the MCU universe and how like after Captain America's death, how they're trying to rebuild it?

Yeah. Well, I love the Falcon as Captain America. I think that's a really cool idea to pass it on. Um, I haven't seen the new film yet. Uh, did you see it? I have, I have not seen the new film. Have you old man? I have not either. Yeah.. Have you, old man? I have not either. Yeah. I did. It was okay. Yeah.

I mean, that's kind of what I heard. So, I didn't rush to go see it because I heard it. It's okay. I loved Anthony Mackie's portrayal of the Falcon character. I really enjoyed Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I did watch that in the series. I really liked that. And that had a lot of build into, oh my God, oh my God, this is making me think of how much I enjoyed that. I'm going to forget the name of it. What's it called? The, uh, the newest, uh, MC, MCU movie. Thunderbolts.

Yeah. Thunderbolts. How much I, So like you're introduced to Russell's Captain America. I can't remember the character's real name, but the new Captain America as like a total douche in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. US Agent. Yeah, or that's his comic book name. Yeah. Yeah. US Agent, you're introduced to in that television series. I love what they did with that character. Cause like he's interesting. He's, he's not that like he's awful, but he's also not like a comical villain. Like he's like, he, he seems to be like a regular guy. He just has, he, you know,

he's just not a perfect guy. He wants to do good things. You know he wants to be he wants to be Captain America, but you know what not everybody can be Captain America exactly He's not like this, you know, purely corrupt Evil bastard like he she wants to be Captain America, but like you said perfectly not everybody can be Captain America Yeah What a great character and what a character people have slept on and it's so cool that they brought him into the MCU. And I would love to see more of that character

and more of that actor, Wyatt Russell is amazing. He was so good. And in my opinion, he was, I mean, basically stole the show of the Thunderbolts. He is so good in that movie. I've yet to see Thunderbolts, I need to see that. He's so good, and the only reason I hesitate on saying he stole the show is because David Parber

basically stole the show. Like the two of them were so good, and they're not really the focus, but the two of them were so good. So I love that part of Captain America in the MCU where you have US agent versus, you know, the the Falcon portrayal. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I really love the idea of Falcon become like taking up the shield. It's a great idea. Also found out in this little history reading that the Falcon came out in the 60s, right? In those 60s comics. They introduced the Falcon as the sidekick,

you know, as a friend and ally of Captain America. So yeah, I genuinely enjoy what they're doing with it. I hope that's, it was long worded, but I hope that was some answer, Tizzle, to your question. And I'll just throw out, again, if you like comics, there is a new Captain America number one coming out today, a brand new number one, and it's written by Chip Zdarsky who did an incredible Daredevil run not too long ago. And apparently the first storyline is Captain America versus Dr.

Doom. So that should be pretty fun. And I intend to check that out. Uh, Tizzle, you got a fictional president for us? I do. My offering to you guys is Abraham Lincoln, vampire slayer. Not only do you get to save the United States and hold the union together, but you get to kill some vampires in the same time.

Awesome. Awesome. Thank you, T same time. Yeah. Okay. Awesome, awesome. Thank you, Tizzle. That's great. Marco, what do you got for us? You wanna talk a little cap? You wanna talk a little Tarantino?

Little barbarian? Man, I try to kill time with like how long it takes people to get up here sometimes. Marco. Hi, hi, sorry. I'm crashing the American independence. You son of a bitch. Now get in here. It's a barbecue. No Brits on this one. No Ireland.

Scotland, Scotland. Scotland. Oh my God. Forgive me. Forgive me. If I, if I grilled you up a burger, would you, would you eat it? Absolutely. Yeah. Well then you're welcome. You're welcome to come to the old Fourth of July celebration. What do you got for us, Marco? I was wanting just to pitch in on the president. I think Jared said that we were allowed to do non-American presidents as well. I said that. I said that.

Yep. If it's someone we know, this would be interesting. Let's see. Who is it? Well, it's fictional. President Laura Roslyn from Battlestar Galactica. Oh! You know, that is a terrific answer,

and it was the one I thought of when I said they don't necessarily have to be a US president. That is what I had in mind because what a great presidential character. Thank you, Marco, for the call, and happy fourth to you there in Scotland. That's a great answer. Love President Laura Roslyn from Battlestar. So many great qualities of a president, you know, didn't want the job. That's like one of the main things, right? You find with like great presidents is like people that didn't really want that Dave. Dave's a great

president because he wasn't trying to be president, right? Yeah, Joe Biden's a great president because he didn't know he was president Logan nailed it nailed it. Well done, sir. You're president. I am I am Miscrets, what do you got? Let's get in here on the conversation. Hey, how's it going? Hey, it's going great. What's up? Good, good.

So I want I can't believe nobody's talking about barbarians. Yeah, please. Yeah. So on top of all the great points Jerry made about barbarians, I can't believe you didn't mention just how fun it is to role play a barbarian. Yeah. I am Grognar the Barbarian. And I hit things.

Yeah. I think it's just, it's very fun to lean into a, you know, that low intelligence character and kind of just run with it, right? You kind of find your, you always get into really fun situations. Low intelligence, high like high energy, high emotion. Yeah, like emotion driven rage driven characters. It is it is interesting.

I don't know. I feel like I don't think I've ever. If I played a barbarian on the network, can anybody remind me if I can't know. I feel like I don't think I've ever I played a Barbarian on the network can anybody remind me if I can't remember I have Yeah, King of the Zoogs was it was a barbarian, but I mean you got like casino casino on Legacy yeah, because you know a great era Right yeah, and that's one that leans in log what's that olag from olag baby fantastic character yeah you're right there's a lot of great yeah felled by a bad salad we always say that what

you call it that the that are pre our pre glass cannon games that existed before we started playing one of all of our favorite characters was skids barbarian in in our long running campaign that we played right before we started recording the glass kind of podcast. He had an awesome barbarian character who was like basically the main character of the story. He had an awesome barbarian character who was like basically the main character of the story You know, I've never read any Conan or seen any of the movies. I don't know anything about Conan Okay, you haven't read the stories that's most people it's pretty deep nerd dim level have read the Robert E Howard stories, but to not have seen Conan the barbarian starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

What the fuck is wrong with you? I'll watch it. I promise. I'm putting it on my list. I'm putting it on my list. Speaking of things for you to watch Joe, have you, we might remember in Milwaukee, I told you, you need to watch the show from for your, your green.

Is this the foreign show? No, not foreign. Oh no. I think I asked you this in the thing. I add, there's some one word show that's like German or something that was a dark horror on like Netflix or something years ago. I'm going back like five or six years. I can't remember. It's good. It's amazing. It is probably the best visual Lovecraftian media you can

consume. What's it on? Uh, MGM plus. Okay. Get the hell out of here. MGM Plus. Okay, get the hell out of here. MGM Plus? What the hell are you talking about? Oh, it's on Crackle. What do you mean MGM Plus? Nobody has

that. Me and my wife paid for the subscription for this show. It was still worth it. I was thinking of the show Dark. Yes, and as McD mentioned in chat, as did a bunch the show Dark. Yes. And yes, McD mentioned it in chat as did a bunch of other people. Miss Chris, give us a great

fictional president. We're going to keep moving here. All right. My fictional president is President Kirkland played by Kiefer Sutherland on Designated Survivor. Oh, there you go. Good one. Yes.

Designated Survivor. That's a great answer. Good one. I really liked that one. That was like, didn't that open with like, like in the shelter like underneath the White House or something? I feel like I don't know if I'm placing this memory from somewhere else, but like how it first begins, you know, the whole designated survivor thing. It's really, it was really interesting. All right, let's we'll come back to more callers here in a second, but let's talk on Independence Day. Let's talk about independent RPGs for a second here. Indie RPGs, what we would call, there's

a lot of different ways you can kind of define this. We're going to, I think, define it as RPGs that are published by publishers, distributed by companies that are of a smaller size than wizards, piezo, chaosium, free league, modiphius. Like those ones, you know, we're saying, we're gonna kind of call those non-independent publishers as a little bit more well-staffed, I think.

But slightly smaller companies that have put out, there's so many RPGs out there, and the question is, do you like playing indie RPGs? Do you like trying indie RPGs, Jared? I'll just throw the question to you first, versus, you know, do you have time to play them versus playing a Pathfinder or a D&D, which, you know, obviously dominates a huge amount of the market.

Does it dominate a huge amount of your time? So here's what I think is funny. When I first started on the glass cannon network, I was doing Haunted City. And I think that is an indie RPG. Blades in the Dark is an indie RPG. And because of that, I would read in the socials, people would be like, he really likes story games. He's really into indie RPGs.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Actually, I have always been, I want a big hard back, thick book with lots of rules in it. That's always been my jam. And, uh, and so indie RPGs are actually even today, I'll be honest, they can be a hard sell for me. And it's, it's not fair because there are many indie RPGs that are excellent and many indie RPGs that are a way better play experience night to night than your experience playing maybe, maybe Pathfinder, maybe Warhammer fantasy role play there. You know, they are, there are indie RPGs that you're going to have more fun

playing, but for whatever reason, my, my, the little kind of collectory aesthetic part of my brain usually wants a bigger production, uh, game book that you can do more with. You know, I think indie RPGs often have a very specific focus and corporate RPGs are more like you can do this kind of campaign or this kind of campaign. They're like a little bit more of a large toolbox. Um, so, uh, the first time I read blades in the Dark, I don't know if I've ever said this on stream before. Now I now think it's one of the greatest RPGs written ever. I think it's one of the greatest RPGs ever created Blades in the Dark. But when I first read

it, I didn't get it. And I didn't like it. I was like, wait, that they can just make the players can just deny any consequences that I give them. That's insane. I don't like that. Now I see the genius of it. But but generally my my horrible bias, my prejudice is generally against indie RPGs. And that's a flaw of mine. It truly is a flaw. But I have to admit it. I think that there's well, look, there's something to be said, obviously, there's positives and negatives to both. But there's

a huge positive that you kind of hinted at there. And you and I have discussed this before. The there is a huge positive in the RPG landscape to having tools at your disposal outside of the book, the initial book that you purchased to play a game. A game that benefits from excellent character sheets, maps, mini map, minis, initiative trackers, tools and such like that, that are freely available online, you know, through these, you know, major companies to support, you know, dice that do, you know, you know, that, that are unique to that game is a real positive, in my opinion, for playing mass market RPGs. Not to mention the fact that it is much easier.

There's a reality, and I saw somebody mention in Discord chat that solo indie RPGs are pretty cool. And let me jump onto that and just say that like, one of the struggles I face with indie RPGs is that RPGs in general are a team effort. You need a group usually to come together and give a lot of time to do something. And we're not just talking, look, a lot of indie RPGs can be played in a session. You know, Fiasco comes to mind as a great indie RPG, right?

And that can be, that's designed to be kind of played in a session. But you're still talking about getting four other people together probably, right? Three to five people together in the same place or online for hours, right? Really, they gotta give up these hours to do this. And everybody knows D&D, lots of people know Pathfinder, and if they're gonna play role playing games and that's what they've been raised on

and that's what they know how to play, when they can chip away a little time from their busy lives to play, usually that's what they're going to want to do. And it's, it's hard to get them, get other people as excited as you are about an indie pamphlet that you read, that you picked up at indie press revolution at gen con, right? Like it's, it's difficult.

That's why I think the solo RPG in the indie landscape is super interesting because you don't need anybody else to try it. You can totally try it, jump in. So yeah, I would say in general, I am such a game fan. I'm a game-aholic in terms of systems. I love finding new ways to make dice rolling and some sort of narrative economy, uh, gamified so that it feels like you are role playing, you know, so that role playing in the sense that like, it feels like it is capturing the setting it means to capture in a way that makes you feel like you're really doing this or really a playing a character that's doing this.

Um, I, so I love reading these indie RPGs, but the reality is I have a hard time playing them because I can't get people to do it. You know what I mean? Because they're, they're used to what they know. They're used to the big market games and that's what, that's what makes it a little bit tougher. But I'm, I'm, I'm curious. Sorry. Well, let's just talk about some of the advantages though, cause we've, we've kind of, we've kind of outlined, you know, why they're a tough cell, you know, uh, like you said, a lot of them are built to be played in one session, so you really only have to get people together for one time to come,

you know, do it. Um, uh, a lot of them have, I would say they're more elegant in their design. There's not seven different rules systems in one game, you know, there's like, and they are the, the vision of one creator, you know, one person who has gotten to make all the decisions and sort of make this perfect little, you know, pleasing kind of package that really works. And there are things that have won awards, deservedly so, that I think are so amazing,

like Dogs in the Vineyard. Have you ever heard of Dogs in the Vineyard, Joe? Yep. Dogs in the Vineyard. I never played it, but I've heard of it. My life with Master. I played a game called The Quiet Year. Have you heard of The Quiet Year?

Sounds familiar. It's just, it's you and the fellow players are running a community in like a fantasy world and it's a map drawing game. So you put down a big piece of paper and then each time it's your turn, you draw something onto the map. That's awesome. That you know, this is the caves outside of town. This is the windmill where we grind our mill it or whatever. And it all ends up interacting with a series of events that occur that can destroy your town and it's all about, do we survive after we've

prepared during this quiet year? Um, so, uh, I played a game called Microscope. See, this is the kind of... that what I just described a quiet year is a completely different type of RPG. You don't have a character, you don't have a character sheet, and you're not using dice. And I think it's good for people to have different kinds of experiences and try different kinds of things. I played one called Microscope. Instead of making a community, you make a timeline and you create

a history for a fictional world. And each time it's your turn, you can say this event happened or this event happened along this timeline. And then you roleplay out scenes that happen during those different events. Are you leveling up? No. then you role play out scenes that happen during those different, um, different events. Are you leveling up? No.

Are there any weapons? No, you are. It's like kind of a group fiction writing exercise. Yeah. Um, so it's a very different experience than you're going to get with. Dungeons and dragons. But I do think if you are someone who's into role-playing games, you're really selling yourself short

if you never try some of these things out. Because there's so much, it would be like, it would be like if someone told me they only watch MCU movies. I'd be like, what about all the movies that are out there? There's so many incredible movies and you only watch MCU movies. That's what it's like if you're someone who's like, I only play Pathfinder. Yeah, there's well, you said it, and it's important to reiterate.

If you can find the time to get people together to try out these indie RPGs. If your favorite game is Dungeons and Dragons or Pathfinder, dipping out and playing, trying some of these indie RPGs is absolutely going to make you and every one of your friends better at playing D&D and Pathfinder. It elevates your consciousness of what you are doing together when you play those games, and it just elevates the experience of those other games. It's really wonderful. And the way that you described how focused it is, think about how D&D and Pathfinder

and Call of Cthulhu come from so much, and this has a negative connotation, there's a lot of positives to it, but a negative connotation, so much baggage. So many years of weight, of product, of business, but then also creative weight. What was liked, what wasn't liked, what needs to be changed, what edition, how, what edition are you on?

Or how massive their universes are? Their universes are so massive and so intricate and so gigantic. And that can be a plus, but it can also be a minus because sometimes it's hard to figure out how to focus your game into one story. You know, that's something Paizo does well with the adventure path. They're like, we're not using all the monsters. We're not using all the countries. We're not using all of the magic. We're using these things to give you a horror, you know, experience or a, uh, prehistoric experience, like blood of the wild, or a like pirate adventure, right? Like you can,

you can narrow it and focus it in and Pisa does a terrific job of that. They do, but indie RPGs do an even better job because there are indie RPGs like the guy that did Fiasco did one called Night Witches where you just play female Soviet fighter pilots during World War II. So awesome. There really was a squadron of female fighter pilots called the Night Witches and that's all the game is about. So you get a very specific, very streamlined, no fat experience. And I think that's invaluable.

I think that's incredible. And like you said, it makes you a better player of those corporate games. I got one I wanna want to try that. Uh, I have not tried. Have you tried, uh, God, what, how was it the exact name? It's, um, I think the name of the game is coyote and crow. Do you, have you heard of this one?

I think I've heard of it. Is that the one that's, um, written and created by indigenous people? Yeah. the one that's written and created by indigenous people? Yeah, it is a sort of sci-fi-esque RPG set in an Earth future where there was never any Western colonization. Oh, cool. And so all of the, this is my very, I don't know, this is my brief understanding by the blog line is that you have, you know, those indigenous

populations were never colonized and, uh, were able to grow to, you know, through their own civilizations. And then we take that into sci-fi sort of era. Uh, and it's supposed to be freaking fantastic. And I'd love to check that out. That sounds super, super cool. Um, but yeah, I mean, that, that to me is like, you know, epitome of kind of a indie RPG experience that isn't different than anything else. You know, you've tried before. I don't know what the system is. If it's like a dipole system or not, I can't remember, but, um, that's one I'd be interested to check out. And yeah, like you said, those focused experiences

are really interesting. What are your guys' thoughts on indie RPGs? Do you like trying them? Yeah, let's see. Gray Wolf, what do you got for us? Gray Wolf 85, you don't have to talk indie RPGs. There's a lot of topics floating around in today's show, whatever you'd like.

Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm good. How are you both? Good. So indie RPGs, yeah, actually, there's one that I played very recently. I believe it was called the mask or the masks and essentially, oh, it's masks, a new generation. And they, oh, you have, okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it was awesome.

I actually, we actually played it. I played it with my friends that I went to go see the Portland show this year after the show and it was my first time playing it. And I've played Pathfinder a couple times. But this was the most role playing I'd ever done. And like actually getting into a character and, you know, taking on a role and we just we had an absolute blast. It was some of the most fun I've ever had just playing a game, you know, whether that be an RPG, a board game, or a video game. And I, you know, it's something I probably never would have tried if, you know, my friend did not convince me.

He had run it a couple of times. And like, it's just, it's so into it in under an hour. And then we had so much fun. We played until like 2 a.m. that night. He had come up with a character. So the guy who GM'd it, the friend who GM'd had a character who was a kid in this high school, had superpowers. And his name was The Grappler. And he just loved grappling things. He would like open up his locker and there was like pictures of grappling hooks.

And he had little mini grappling hooks like in his like jacket. And that was like that was one of those belly laps that I can count on one hand how many times in my life I've had. That's great. Yeah. Last is a powered by the apocalypse game and, you know, blades and those forges of the dark games share DNA with that Joe. So the superhero types that you can pick from are all playbooks with like a lot of their special abilities and stuff already mapped out for you.

So like our caller says, you can get into it quickly. Whereas most superhero role playing games, character creation is like a fucking three day process because you have to litigate how all the different powers work, but masks. It's fun if you wanna go down that road and you wanna like really make your unique superhero, like it's fun, but it is

not something you just throw together in a night. Right. Yeah. But those- The mask isn't just about superheroes. Talk about a specific experience. It's about teenage superheroes. That's what it's about.

So- Cool. Gray Wolf, give us a great fictional president. Yeah. Yeah, I have to pick President Harris from Scary Movie 3 played by Leslie Nielsen. Leslie Nielsen. Amazing. His portrayal of, yeah, I think he's supposed to be a parody of Bush, but it was so funny. I remember seeing that as a kid and we were laughing our asses off just watching him do pretend to do the whole alien weird walk thing and stuff like that.

It was just great. Loved it. Thanks, great. Great call. Great call. And thanks for the the masks. Shout out. That's awesome. Let's get I had somebody lined up here. Where are you? Let's get all hail Lord Bezos. You've been waiting a while. Thank you for your patience, Lord Bezos. What do you got for us? Oh, well, I think specifically the NDRPG for me that I would recommend would be Mothership, which they just released within, I think, the past year, the full first edition, but it is I think

one of the best written indie RPGs I've seen in a long time and just the game master advice and there is perfect, the setting is great and there is such a great community currently that is just making these little pretty much brochure pamphlets for quick two to four hour adventures. And it is extremely easy for any players to just jump into. It's arguably Bezos top of my list. The game I have not played yet that I want to play the most is probably mothership. I was looking at mothership during the height of COVID when we were doing new game, who dis I almost ran, uh, mothership and I, I don't know why I pivoted, I think I was like, I don't, I don't know how to make this into a full

three episodes, like I don't know how to do, like it seemed like it would go so fast now I know better, I could absolutely make it in three episodes, but we played some on stream of blood, but I don't think I did it justice. I would love to try again with mothership. I thought it was, I think it's so amazing. It really is beautiful. Yeah. It's supposed to be great. There's a, there's a quick adventure that lasts two to four hours called, Oh, it's pretty much it's goblin with a knife. The, uh, creator of mothership described that how combat should be just chaotic, like a goblin

running around with a knife. And it is the funniest adventure that I think I have run. Just like a goblin who somehow got into a spaceship, has a knife, just runs around, pops out of the air vents and just starts stabbing people. It is chaos, and my players who primarily play fifth edition were able to just kind of like jump in, pick it up, and get the vibe really quickly. Also, it was the first time I think they really experienced how quickly a character can die,

and I think that's something every player should experience. Yeah I agree that that is important. All right All Hail Lord Bezos give us your give us a great fictional president. Oh man so many of mine were taken so I have settled now on President Selena Meyer. Yep that's great yeah. Is that VEEP? Yeah. And VEEP she becomes the president. Great answer. That's one I didn't think of. That's a great answer. And she becomes the president for like a couple months, right? At the very end, and there's some very great payoffs. I think it is a very great representation of what our presidency can look like in real life too. Yeah, yeah.

I agree with you. That is a great answer. Great answer. Also wanted to shout out Pins and Needles in Discord chat that posted, Hieronymus, the Garden of Earthly Delights Edition, which Mary Lou ran in Vegas, and she was raving about that game.

And then her players, Pins and Needles was one of them, was raving about it and said, Pins and Needles says they are now an aggressive evangelist of this game. It's supposed to be great. Hieronymus, the garden of earthly delights edition. Um, very cool. And then McD posted in chat, uh, orbital by Jack Harrison, a game of precarious spaces and interstellar war. It's called orbital. I don't know that one. That's cool. Uh, McD says he's wanted to play that for a long time. So yeah, that sounds interesting. KnightStation, why don't you join us here

and let us know what you're thinking. Hey, can y'all hear me? We got you. What's going on Knight? Awesome. Yeah, I think one of the things that I love about indie RPGs more than anything is the just collecting them. So I think that like having the, there's some of the most beautifully designed books that you can get. I just love having on my shelf and, and seeing how creative people can be when they make them. So I think, uh, I love that. You know, that's the other beauty that you can say this about independent anything really in terms of media and art and stuff like that. But especially I feel like for us for RPGs, I think we're all well aware

that RPGs in and of themselves are very niche among all entertainment out there. It's a very niche market. And these creators, I mean, the love and dedication and passion that they're pouring into these projects, they have nothing to do with bottom lines. They just can't. You know that any indie RPG you get that makes you feel something, that makes you have a great night with your buddies is, whoever wrote that and made it didn't do it for the money.

They did it because they know that they're trying to transfer to you an experience that they envision. And that is, that's one of the things that's just so cool. How cool does Mork Borg look? You know, like just as a thing to own and have on your shelf and pull out and page through occasionally, you know, that's the kind of thing where I would argue, grab it, even if you don't think you're going to play it. Oh God.

It's so ballsy. I mean, Mark Bork says it like in the book, unless I'm mistaken, it's been a long time since I read it, but it says like, you play this, you play it once, and then it's like, and then destroy this book. Like burn this book. It has such a cool vibe. Night Station, give us a great fictional president.

All right, I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb here. And I am going to go with. The band, the presidents of the United States of America. Are they fictional? I mean, they are not real presidents. They are musicians. They are, in a way, fictional presidents. Hey, good answer. It in a way fictional presidents. Hey, good answer. It's a diminishing field. There aren't a lot of answers left maybe.

So good answer. That is a fun answer. I also like, you know, there's what, you know, what does everybody know that nobody thought of? Then there's the other one, which is like just the backdoor angle, right? Like the angle you didn't think of that fits in the legal rules. The back door angle is hard to pull off everyone. Yes, it is. I feel like a lot of people attempt the back door angle and they don't got it. And they don't got it.

Dragunov. Uh, join us. Oh, you're muted. Your mic is muted. Also, your picture is freaking me out, man. Is that Abigail Wright is your picture? Indeed, Abigail Wright from Impossible Landscapes. That's eerie, man. Welcome to the show. What do you got for us?

Yeah, I wanted to quickly mention, just going back to Captain America, if anybody's interested in getting into Marvel Comics, one of the latest sort of short runs was a series called Avengers Twilight. It was all about a huge amount of the Avengers being dead and Steve Rogers having to kind of reassemble them. It's really great. Anyhow, on the topic of indie rpgs i wanted to quickly shout out um from effect publishing a game called tales of the old west that was uh recently disclosed the quick the kickstarter um really awesome game i've only read it i haven't gotten a chance to play it but but the book is really awesome. It runs off of the year zero engine and very similar to the alien RPG

for people who are fans of that. I'm your zero engine. Very good. I feel like a lot of the Western kind of themed games that I've seen always have some kind of like, oh, it's Western fantasy or it's, you know, a Western set in space or it's Western meets Cthulhu or like whatever, but this game is just straight up like what it's like to be a person on the frontier of, you know, like 1870s America. It's really, really cool.

And the system that sounds great. That sounds awesome. Yeah. Like I don't, yeah, I don't need the weird part of the weird West in order to thoroughly enjoy a Western RPG You know like now That's awesome. All right, I'm gonna have to run it out of time. Give us a great fictional president. Oh Yeah, let me go with Harrison Ford's character in Air Force one Yeah, there it is. I was waiting for that one. That was a big one.

That's a big answer. I'm surprised. Bill Pullman from Independence Day was my original answer. And then after that, I was like, well, there's gotta be one more, right? And yeah. I'm surprised he lasted that long. That is great.

And thank you for the answer. I'm gonna get that name. While I look up that name, Jared. Yes. There's a GM Fiat on our schedule. Yes. Is there something that's bothering you about RPG? Gaming experience? Let's let's let's get into it. Let's get into it. So let me set the scene. I always need to set the scene. Please. Please do. All right. So, uh,

you're playing a one shot or you're playing the first session of a new campaign. And after the GM kind of sets some things up, uh, there's always that moment when he turns to the players and he asks them to describe their character. Right when he does that, there's always one player who does the following. Okay, Joe, actually, let's go ahead and... Joe, would you play the GM and just say, just ask me to describe my character? And then the tavern door swings open, and maybe the din of the conversation kind of dies down a little bit, and a new character walks in.

Jared, what do we see? Okay. Mirko Araka is a strong Shawanti stock, but was actually raised in Opara. So although he has deeply tanned, almost ruddy complexion, he's wearing the latest latest fashions from Taldor, including a waistcoat, a white linen shirt with neck stock, silk knee breeches, stockings and black leather buckled shoes. He's wearing a bicorne hat, not a tricorn hat. Because the bicorne is sort of an unofficial trademark of his

noble house house, Corsina, who are known as explorers and a tricorn hat because the bicorne is sort of an unofficial trademark of his noble house, House Corsina, who are known as explorers and sailors. And of course, when I say his noble house, I mean the noble house he's been adopted into being of Shawanti blood. On his belt, he wears an Aldori dueling sword. He learned swordmanship under the tutelage of the sword lord Teal Lara, which is reflected in his free archetype of Aldori swordsman. He also has a brace of star knives and over his shoulder a simple rucksack.

Did I say simple? Because the rucksack has actually been emblazoned with the symbol of his adopted house, a stylized compass. I won't go into what's in the rucksack because I don't want to take up too much time from the other players. So instead, I'll just move on to Mirko's hair and tattoos. His hair is black with wisps of silver tied back into a simple ponytail. Despite his fashionable dress, he prefers function over style. You

wouldn't be able to see his tattoos, but I'll describe them anyway. One is a wolf, a totem of his Shawanti lineage, which he has yet to fully explore, but hopefully will during this campaign. Hint, hint, GM. And the other is a full back tattoo of the Tarasque that attacked Opara in 632 AR. That one is due to a bet he lost while gambling in the naval yards of Casimir. Let's see what else. Oh, eye color is dark gray and he's got a small pet that I'm hoping to upgrade to an animal companion if the GM lets me take the animal trainer as my second dedication. Hint hint GM. The pet is a melavora with black fur and a white stripe.

It's a type of mustelid that you might know by another name. The honey badger. Her name is Bella Marius. And yes, that is a reference to a rune lord. And she considers you with tired, worldly eyes as she clutches my shoulder with remarkably long four limb claws. When someone finishes a character description like that, as the GM, I always want to reply. What the fuck is wrong with you? In that moment, it's kind of impossible for the GM to interrupt, uh, because it's kind of the first time the GM has given the player the floor.

So shutting them down is just a super bad move for a GM. But you know what's even crueler? Making us all listen to a multi-paragraph character description, OK? I know it's your big moment, and you're excited about your character. But let's keep descriptions to one sentence. Yes, one. Use one sentence to describe your character.

Not fucking two, definitely not three. You can do it in one fucking sentence. That character description I just did should have been like, he's show-onty, but he's wearing fashionable Taldoran clothes, and he's got a unique kind of dueling blade at his hip. That's it! That's all you need, okay?

Please God. Let the mystery unfold, yeah. Yes, please stop there. That's exactly what I was about to say, Joe. You can show off your other details as you play. Don't blow your wad all in one moment. Give your character a little mystery. Give us some foreplay.

Hint at things with a detailed viewer there. Maybe you don't even talk about your weapons until you draw them for a fight, alright? Taking five minutes to describe your character is obnoxious because you're using up the game's most valuable resource, time. And by the way, I don't care about your character because he hasn't fucking done anything yet. So I'm not going to remember any of this shit anyway. Thank you. This has been part five of my series on learning to take social cues. That's good, dude. That's good.

Keep it to one sentence. Just I mean, the question I asked, it was very clear. What did we see? Yeah, what do we see? That's the question. Just say what we see. Let the other things unfold. And I know it's hard, because suddenly the camera's on you. The eye, everybody turns to you. And, you, and when I play, I've been playing a long time, when someone goes, okay, tell us about your character, and then everybody suddenly turns to me and it's the first time I've really talked, I start sweating, I do. But you have to fucking keep control and just tell us what we barely need to know to get started.

I am so far on the other side of that spectrum of what you just displayed there that it's problematic. I'm problematic on the other side. You don't tell enough. First of all, I do my build. I love the build and as part of it, I'll come up with a concept or an idea or a hook. I don't do much backstory anymore because I'm like, what's the point? None of it matters

anyway. The GM's not going to change anything for me. And backstory is great to develop by what is happening in the present. So as things happen in the present, it's great to be like, Oh, you know what? I'm going to say that he was once a prisoner of these guys in the blah, blah, blah. And that gives me an extra thing to work with here, whatever. So I like to keep those kinds of things open. Well, that's a really good player, Joe. That's just being an excellent player. Why not keep those things open? Like really, you can show up to the game without a backstory.

I think some people think it's expected. Like, oh, I have to write a backstory. But I think that's actually a beginner move. I think the pro move is you show up without a backstory, and then as it unfolds, you go, oh, I think my guy used to know this person. Or, oh, I think I used to be a prisoner of these guys. Yeah. And so the negative part of what I'm getting to is that that's what I show up to the table

with, a complete character sheet. I know what I want to play. I know what my role is going to be. I'm excited about the, you know, the, the aspects of tactics that are going to be involved. And then it comes to me, what did we see when they walk in the door? I haven't thought for a second about what they're wearing or what they look like really at all. A lot of times I end up fumbling over that and being like, oh, they're dressed in all black with a hood and they're glowering. It's lame. I want to find a middle ground there where I do have a well-constructed single sentence to describe what they look like. Uh, I think it's great to start out with one interesting detail,

you know, and then something that brings up, oh, they're an orc, they're an orc, but, uh, you know, one interesting detail, one interesting detail. What that does is it gives the GM for, for the purposes of NPCs and the players at the table that might have characters in the tavern, something to ask about. Just give them something to ask about. What if I told you, and this would be a specific bill, but what if I built an orc wizard and I said,

oh, the guy that comes through the door is an orc, but he's skinny and he doesn't seem that muscular. The end. Guess what? That gives people a ton of stuff to think about. And to work with. What does that mean? Who is this?

Why isn't he like what I usually think of as an orc? There's so many things off of just this. And that was less than a sentence. Yep. Well done. Well put. Another great GM Fiat. But we got to wrap things up here with our listener award.

So I'm going to get a couple more in here really quick. I'm going to call you to the stage. You got to answer fast. And then you're at all. We have time for is your fictional president. I'm sorry. That's all we have. I gotta be ready. Head Hunter. What do you got for us for fictional? A great, a great fictional president. There's still a lot out there. I got one. Zaphod Bebelbrox from

Zaphod Bebelbrox. The Great picture. Stanley Mott. Who's that? He is from Wag the Dog. Dustin Hoff Dog. Wag the Dog. Okay. I haven't seen that one in a long time, but great one. Thank you for bringing that one up.

It's been a while. It's been a minute. All right. Let's keep it going. You guys are doing great. Philonis, get in on this contest. Quick. Can you guys hear me?

We got you So it's a little bit of a crossover with the Captain American president I Didn't I don't think I heard him Harrison Ford as Thaddeus Ross. Oh Yeah, yeah, yes, that's the new that's the new Captain America. Yeah, I didn't see it I didn't see it but I you know, it's. But it reverberates into the Thunderbolts. And so, yes. I'm sorry. Is it Thaddeus Ross?

Ross, yeah. Ross? Ross. Awesome. Thank you. All right, let's keep it going here. Odd Ostra. Odd Ostra, get in on the contest.

Harrison Ford's got a couple on here. It's Patrick and Austin. I'm going to throw out there President Scroob from Spaceballs. President Scroob from Spaceballs. Awesome. President Scroob from Spaceballs. Awesome. President Screw from Spaceballs. Fantastic. Fantastic.

And we got time for one more. One more president screw. I'm trying to write these all down. And Lord, do I not know how to spell them. All right. Final one. We're just going to do a rando here. What do we got? Let's do Judge Husky. Sorry to those we didn't get to today

appreciate you guys so much for hanging out on discord thank you guys uh judge husky oh no judge husky is not answering oh judge husky you're gonna lose your opportunity maybe somebody else gonna get an opportunity oh boy uh oh mindrip mindrip are you there hello oh wait hold on a second judge god damn it all right quickly give it to me sorry uh i Mindrip. Mindrip. Are you there? Hello? Oh, wait. Hold on a second. Judge. God damn it. All right, quickly.

Give it to me. Sorry. I was going to do President Lindbergh from the fifth element. Oh, I liked that. That's a good one. That was a good one. I didn't think about that one. Yeah.

Is it Lim-berg? Lindbergh. I don't know how to... I don't know. But I know the character. All right. I think it's time. It is time. It is time. Oh, wait, I already asked up men drips. Let me just get men drips answer. Go men. Okay. Okay. Uh, Andre Curtis, the president from Rick and Morty. There you go. There you go. Little Rick and Morty, John. Okay. The president

from Rick and Morty. All right. I'm going Morty all right I'm gonna put these answers in Chat we'll give them a look see and Let's see see what we get Look over the list there Jared look over the list there McDizzle heck of a list that's a hell of a list It's a hell of a list typically what you and I have done is we've picked three and then we share our three with each other. If any of them cross, if only one of them crosses over, that's the winner.

If multiple crossover, we go to McD and see what we got. Okay. I got my one, two, three. You got your one, two, three. Do you? I got my one, two, three. Okay. I, I've got my one, two, three. Okay. Uh, I, I've got my one, two, three. All right.

Uh, I'll go first. I'm going to say my one, two, three in no particular order are, uh, sorry, I just, I just lost sight of it. Our president James Marshall. That's Harrison Ford in air force one. Okay. James Marshall, that's Harrison Ford in Air Force One. Okay. President James Marshall, President Laura Roslin,

and President Jack Ryan, clear and present danger among others. We have an overlap. Okay. Who are your three? My number one was President Laura Roslin, number two was President Selena Meyer, and finally, President Muffley from Dr. Strangelove.

You know what? I am going to revise because under pressure, I said Jack Ryan and I meant Selena Meyer. I saw that and I said it, but then I couldn't find it. I was like, wait, was it Jack Ryan? So we actually have two. We do have two that overlap here. If we put up Selena Meyer against president Rosslyn, you know, can you and I

come to a decision here? Uh, do you, which one? I can come to a decision and it's based on technicalities, but president Rosslyn is arguably more of a president than Selena Meyer, who's only a president for a couple of months at the end of the series. Yes. So I have to go president Rosslyn. This is unbelievable, but I think we're going to give it to president Rosslyn. Not a U S president.

Not only not a U S president, the answer was given by a Scotsman. By a Scot. Oh my God. I'm pretty sure Marco is from Scotland. That's insane. Isn't even American. Marco says, yes, I win. That's the kind of year America is having.

Our best and brightest are not Americans as it turns out. Guys, great answers. Like so many good ones. It was really, it was really tough to decide for sure, but I got a, at the end it comes down to Roslyn versus freaking Selena Meyer. That is such a great answer and so great answer. Like to me, that's one no one would think of, but everybody knows. But everybody knows that was a great answer and so great answer. Like to me, that's one no one would think of but everybody knows but everybody knows

Yeah, that was a great answer But I think that Laura Roslin makes a really good example of Also answering like a great fictional president. Absolutely fictional president. So congratulations Marco We're gonna get you that amazing humble bundle and Marko and we really appreciate you guys that is gonna wrap it up for that The show thank you guys hell of a show guys. It was an awesome one so much fun And you know we appreciate you as always next week Wait, we've got some oh next week. We're gonna talk about Andor aren't we yes, we are yeah, we're Andor's season, the end of the series next week.

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