The Glass Cannon Podcast - Glass Cannon Radio #4 – What Video Game Got You Hooked?, Nerd News, Dune Imperium

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

The guys take a trip down memory lane and talk with callers about their first video game memories. Also, discussions on the new Fantastic Four trailer, a new horror book from one of Jared's favorite authors, and our thoughts on the Dune Imprerium board game. Watch the video here: https://youtu.be/Q6Ej5XytMpk Access exclusive podcasts, ad-free episodes, and livestreams with a 30-day free trial with code "GCN30" at jointhenaish.com. For more podcasts and livestreams, visit glasscannonnetwork.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is Glass Cannon Radio with your hosts Jared Logan and Joe O'Brien. Here we are, touchdown, Eagles! That's right, Jared! You got it, baby. You know the words to say. Here we are touchdown Eagle You know the words to say What a just edge of my seat game I had no it could have been anybody's game Could have gone either way Not boring at all, not one sided. I get it now. I get the thrill of sports. I mean, I'm just, I'm so thrilled that you, uh, that you watched every minute of it and knew what was happening.

For those of you, I did not. I mostly, I went over to my, um, our friend's house in our neighborhood. Her husband is an amazing chef and he made homemade chili, homemade mozzarella sticks, homemade buffalo wings, homemade buffalo tenders. It was a full spread. So that's how they lured you in to, uh, to, to the, the area of the game of the sports. Yeah. I was near the game so I could see, uh, just what a contest of champions. It was absolute shellacking of the Kansas city chiefs by the Philadelphia Eagles.

By the way, if you're, if you're just joining us for the first time on glass cannon radio, this is a sports show where we talk sports and we're talking about the super bowl, which is, um, at the end of the NFL professional football season, there is a final game to decide the winner of the NFL for that year. And it's called the super bowl. Okay. Because in the pat and in the 19 tens, when they started it, people would bring their own bowls of porridge to the game. That's where it came from. That's where it comes from. Uh, and then, and then they then whoever one would get a giant bowl of porridge and was allowed and was allowed one day off from the factory. So it was a Super Bowl.

Wow, thank you for that little history. A little sports history here on Glass Cannon Radio, a sports show. A known sports show. A known sports radio show. Yes, of course we will stop talking about sports immediately. But uh, Mick D and I, I got to shout out my buddy, Mick D. We grew up Eagles fans our whole lives. This kind of thing. It's only happened to us twice in our lives. So this

is a very, very exciting week for us. It is an exciting week. It is an exciting week for this episode of Glass Canaan, where we're going to be talking about all kinds of really fun stuff. Guys, McD discovered something for us. One of the things we're going to talk about today is there is an organization called the Video Game, I think they're called the Video Game History Foundation. That is correct. You have archived and cataloged all of this like vintage video game materials. So really thousands of old video gaming magazines like game pro electronic

gaming monthly, um, you know, stuff like that PC gamer, they've cataloged thousands of issues of that. They've cataloged video game art from the actual games and you can go, it's all free to go look at. So we're gonna talk about that a little bit. Then we're gonna use that as a jumping off point to get into where it all started, Joe. Yeah.

Where it all started. So we're gonna tell our own video game origin stories. What are your earliest memories of playing video games? What are your earliest memories of playing video games? What what are your best memories of playing video games? But what is what is it that got you started on video games? So yeah, I go into that all about that too. Yeah Yeah, that's gonna be amazing Then after that we're gonna do a little nerd news sort of a sort of general wrap up of stuff That's coming out stuff. uh, stuff that's popping off in the gecko sphere. We're going to handle a bunch of little things. And if someone in

the, uh, in the chat or, uh, who wants to call in has something else they want to add in that section, feel free. Let's, let's talk about what's going on in the gecko sphere in terms of stuff we have to look forward to, cause we could all use something to look forward to in this world. Could use a good distraction. The news has been pretty bad. And then we're going to do a little segment that I think might be recurring called the name of the game where Joe and I each tell you what we're playing right now in terms

of tabletop or board games or maybe it could be a video game, but we're going right now in terms of tabletop or board games, or maybe it could be a video game, but we're gonna talk about a specific game, each of us, that we really wanna talk about. And then we're gonna cap it all off with the final part of our month-long tribute to David Lynch. We're gonna have some final words about David Lynch and his legacy.

Yeah. So, wow, that's a lot of stuff. Can we do all that in two hours? Absolutely, buddy. I mean, we like to keep this thing tight, tight, packed with information. This is a tight little package like the, like the, like the cute butt of a hot boy. That's how I describe the show.

Like a hot man. I should say, man, a hot man's cute butt is how tight this show is, right Joe? Like I said. Joe, right? Yes, Jared. Okay. Okay, so let's talk about this. So McD showed this to us and we were really, really quite delighted with the video game history foundation archive

that you can now access. Um, I mean, you can just Google it, but I guess I could try to give you the exact website. Um, and I'm not sure if McD put it in Twitch, but he definitely put it in discord. So there's a link in discord. If you want to check it out. I mean, the, the, the summary of it, the best that I could put it, Jared already kind of got to it, but this is an organization that has been developed that their mission is to

memorialize all of this video game history that is slowly being lost. It used to be a new thing back in the 70s and 80s, right? And it felt like it would never get old. But now as we are 50 years from there, it is really starting, things are starting to die. Particularly, gaming magazines and stuff like that are for very, for obvious reasons, they are becoming extinct. And this organization is setting out to capture everything before it's before it's all lost. And we really kind of got interested in this after talking last week about prime in the expanse and the concerns that this brings up about the who controls media, the licensing

of media, who owns what and what can they just pull from you even if you've been paying for it. This foundation I, is really interesting because it's doing all this stuff for free and sharing everything for free with everybody so that you have access to all this material that could have been lost. And what an amazing trip down memory lane.

I mean, what have you looked through as part of delving? I dug into an episode, I mean, sorry, an issue, an episode. See, I'm such a, I'm such a Gen Z kid. Um, I looked into an issue of the September 1994 issue of electronic gaming monthly. Uh, that's one of the things I was looking at. And just that the ads alone are so fun. You know, I, I saw an ad for something that my brother and I had a lot of, which were Marvel masterpiece trading cards. Remember when trading cards were a thing?

There's tons of really wonderful video game ads, and not just for the games themselves, but for controllers and accessories. But when I saw the Marvel masterpiece cards, I was like, I had a nostalgia wave hit me in the face. Yeah. Um, I think that that's, as McD put it, I mean, that is one of the primary things that jumps out as, as why this project is so amazing for people our

age or people that used to read those magazines. It is such an amazing nostalgic trip. The way that just looking at these things brings back so many memories that you have forgotten about for so long, you know? It's so easy to say like, oh, Super Mario Brothers. Yeah, yeah, no, I'll never forget that. But there are so many other things you didn't realize you have forgotten about that time. I mean, some stuff that was in this issue that I was like, But there are so many other things you didn't realize you have forgotten about that time.

Some stuff that was in this issue that I was like, oh, I forgot about that. There was a letter, the letter of the month was about why doesn't Nintendo have any accessories? Sega Genesis had all these accessories you could buy for it that were hardware that you attached into the Sega and the the magazine writer that responds to the letter talks about how do you remember that an NES originally came with a little robot? Yeah, I had it. The geo.

You had the robot. I had the robot. I had the robot. I got the NES a little later when they stopped adding a robot. Yeah, I had the robot. What was the big game? Was it Gyro-mancer? Is that what it was called?

Gyro-something. Yes, it was Gyro- Gyro-something. Gyromite, yes, Gyromite. Gyromite, Gyromite. Thank you, McD. Yeah, Gyromite. And so like, I had the robot.

It's because my first, well, whatever, we'll get into it in a minute, but man, my first Nintendo was a gift for my grandmother who was so generous and was just like, I'm just going to get, I don't know what the hell this thing is, but I'm going to get the biggest, best one they have. So it was the deluxe edition, you know? And I had the robots.

You're lucky because grandmas get confused. She might've gotten you like a Colecovision or something. Exactly. No, but it had the robot, it had the gun. I mean, that was awesome. Little duck hunt action, but yeah, it's, well, like you said, it's really fun to look back at some of these periodicals and just like, be shocked at what you've forgotten. There was another, there was an editorial

from the Electronic Gaming Monthly Editor, and he was saying, people keep sending us letters and arguing that we are biased toward Nintendo or that we are biased towards Sega. We take no stance in that competition. We are journalists first. And I love that two things. I love that there used to be a Nintendo Sega controversy,

like which one was better. But I also love that like even then, there were the 1990s letter writing equivalent of internet trolls sending their complaints on paper. Hey, you're not being fair to Sega. Yep, it has always existed. It has always existed. I looked at an EGM from 1992, Yeah. Yep. It's, it has always existed. It has always existed.

I looked at an EGM from, uh, uh, 1992, had, had whatever, just grabbed that one, had a blast looking through that. And, uh, I found that the, the ranking articles, they did like the rankings of the top 10 games and they all had to be, they were all separated, you know, by console, which you don't see as much today, if at all, you know, McD, correct me if I'm wrong, but like for the most part, with the exception of like very, very big titles that are, that can even have the opportunity to have exclusivity, games are just games. You know what I mean?

You can play them in a lot of different ways on a lot of different systems. And so most ranking systems are just based on the overall games themselves as opposed to like, you have to separate it by console and none of them are the same. But it used to be, it used to be the game wouldn't fit into another machine. You know what I mean? The male part and the female, they were different species. Right, real round peg into a square hole kind of situation there. Yeah. So, but yeah, it was so, you know, so you would look at a page in EGM of a top 10 list, but there'd be 40 games on the list because you have like four different systems.

They had to tell the top 10 games for the 3DO. And when they got to the end of that list, they were out of 3DO games. You and I, this is one of the reasons I am so excited about this show in general. We're only four weeks in. I can't wait to keep doing it because I'm learning a lot and I'm also learning a lot about you.

I mean, we've never talked about video games really before. I didn't know what your connection was or relationship to them. I just knew that when I said I'm playing Elden Ring and Mary Lou was like, I'm trying it, you were like, not interested. Well, I'm interested. I actually really do love video games,

especially ones like Elden Ring, but I did stop playing video games regularly. Like I don't have a console, like probably 10 years ago. Yeah. So what precipitated that? Was it just kind of like career, kids, like? All of the above. And you know, I have, I tell people,

I have so many nerdy hobbies, I had to drop one. But career and kids was a huge part of it too, spending time with my wife, because my wife's not really a gamer. The only thing I do have is I have an SNES classic, the retro system they came out with that has all the games already loaded. And I brought it out for my kids a couple of times and they're not quite old

enough yet, but you know, when they are, we'll go through all the way through Super Mario World. I could, I could, I could, I could mod that for you if you want Jared, if you want. Oh yeah. If you want, if you want, if you want you to mod it, if you want all the games, put all of them on there. Basically. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Make these good at this stuff. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, McD's good at this stuff.

Yeah, he hooked up some of the cast with unlocked Johns for their retro systems. Nice. Speaking of McD, as we were getting ready for this show, we're doing pre-production stuff, and it's a stupid little thing, but we have a graphic on the screen here. Hey, check us out live on Twitch if you can at some point. But the, we, we put a list up of, of what we're going to talk about today. And the top thing on the list is the video game history foundation. However, that is too long to fit into the, uh, in, into the screen. And so we shortened it to video game history, but then that was too long, literally by a couple of pixels.

And McD was like, just take the space out from between video and game. That is an acceptable way. And I was like, is it Jared, your thoughts is video game, both two words and one word actually acceptable. Or is it too? I'm glad that we're getting into the real issues. Yeah. I'm curious what people think about this.

I think that if I sell a video game without a space, I wouldn't make a face. But I do think that if I wrote it into Word, that Word might correct me. Word might say that they're too separate. So I'm gonna go, as I do with all of my writing, I'm gonna go with Word on this. Okay, okay. Yeah, I saw it. go with word on this. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. I saw it. It's so funny because I looked into it. I mean, this is what you could look up anything in the Nerdosphere, right? You're going to see some kind of comment on it. In this case, it was like an actual grammatical article that like went into why an argument why video games should be one word.

And it was, it was just interesting because it described, you know, the difference in, uh, video space, anything else and, and how video is a whole realm that does not describe exactly what video games are and that video games really should be one work is it's one central concept that is, uh, you know, not specified by the video aspect. Anyway, it was interesting. Well, I just feel like, you know, nobody knows grammar anymore, that we're all subliterate troglodytes scratching half sentences and then using AI

to make them remotely intelligible. So, hey, Naish, you do you. You do you, Naish. Yeah. Well, I think that I, go check out the Video Game History Foundation. It's an awesome project, and man, can you take a great trip down memory lane.

But I like the idea of, I mean, we already kind of started it, like talking to callers about their first experience with video games. How did you first get into it? What was the first thing that really captured you? I also assume, I don't know for sure, but I assume we've got a wide range of callers here,

viewers, listeners, who are all different ages, right? So I'm curious when people- Yeah, they probably started later, they're not like you and I, you know? Yeah, quite possibly. Old guys, old guys. Exactly, so I'm curious to see. You're not like you and I, you know? Yeah, quite possibly. Old guys, old guys. Exactly. You're 54, right Joe, 54? Yes, I just turned 54. I'm curious to see when people, you know, started to take up this hobby.

So if you want to join us, hop into Discord, the Glass Cannon Network Discord, and raise your hand. And we'll get you up here in a second. Yeah, if you are a subscriber, you can just go into the Glass Cannon Discord. If you're not, go to jointhenation.com. You could subscribe right now and you could talk with us in this episode. It's that quick.

It's that easy. It's that easy. And it's free if you use code GCN30. You try it out for free. Come in, join the show, tell us about your video game story. Use the GCN 30, then quit it. Then just after you do 30 days, just quit it. Yeah, don't give us a dollar.

Get your opinion in and then peace out. I mean, that's fine. You do you, as you said. But the other thing we were talking about is, you know, it's Valentine's Day week. Oh, yes. Yeah, it's Valentine's Day week. Oh yes. Yeah, it's a holiday. It's, you know, it's a holiday surrounding around love and you had an idea for another thing you wanted

to kind of like tack onto these calls from college. Well, I like to give away things, so. It's true, you do love, you're always, always hankering for a giveaway. We're gonna have a little contest question today. What is the best fictional couple, the best romantic couple in fiction? So don't say tango and cash. I mean people that are in a romantic relationship, fictional people. What is the best romantic couple

in fiction? And Joe, whoever has the best answer based on me and Joe's arbitrary opinion, tell them what they'll win. We're gonna give away GCN hat today. So you'll get a GCN hat in the mail. Whoever gives the best answer today. So I'm excited to get into it. And Nate, that GCN hat would be a great Valentine's Day gift for your lover.

Go to your lover, hand them a package. They open it, GCN hat, what's the GCN? Then you get to tell them about it. Jared, just to give a little framework for what we want the first caller to talk about here when they come in, what is your first video game experience? What is the first game you remember playing slash loving? I remember being at my cousin's house sitting in brown carpeting. Playing pole position for the Atari 2600.

Yes, yes. Good memory. I remember pole position. That was like it was like a two dimensional game trying to be three dimensional racing game. I believe that they were like a formula one cars, right? If I'm not mistaken. That is correct. And, uh, and uh, we loved it. I think like every kid, like the second you see video games, you're like, this is my life now. So, uh, And we really loved our Atari 2600, which, if you remember, Joe had. My dad bought one for us very shortly thereafter.

The Atari 26700, its controller was a black box this thick with a joystick and one button. That's it. It's all you needed. That's all it had. That's all you needed. Yeah. Similarly, I'll go Atari 2600.

My, I think it's Atari 2600. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but my first memory, along with pole position, uh, one that stood out to me was moon patrol. I don't know if you remember moon patrol, but I loved moon patrol. It was kind of like you were in this, like a moon Rover and it was just a 2d scroller, a left to right, and you had to jump these pits in the moon while shooting debris out of the way and shooting up at like space invader like ships that were like trying to drop

stuff on you. I'm watching a play through of moon patrol on YouTube right now. I'm seven hours in. A speed run. A speed run. Yeah. You imagine watching an Atari game and watching an Atari game on YouTube playthrough. That would be amazing. Oh man, that would be great. Should we take some callers and find out what their video game origin story is?

We got a, we got a whole stream of people that raised their hand when we wanted to talk about video games. So let's bring Blueberry up here. Blueberry Rogue, I have invited you to speak. Oh, hello. You guys can hear me? Yeah, you sound great. How are you?

I'm doing fine. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys in Milwaukee and St. Paul coming right up. Yes. Yes. I won't be there, Blueberry, but okay. You will be in spirit. You will be in spirit. We're very excited to see you there.

This is something I mean to ask more callers, to be honest. Where are you calling from? Are you based up there? I can't remember. I'm from Michigan. I'm like 45 minutes outside of Grand Rapids. Okay. Kind of like the opposite side of the state.

All right. And what is your social security number? Well, it's, well, anyways. Anyways. I have a few good kind of beginner memories. Yeah. Let's see. One of the earliest ones was one of my uncles uh like gave away his NES and my cousins and I would play um Super Mario Brothers and I would die horribly. This is when I learned that I suck at platformers but I was, because of my neuro-spicy brain, was really good at playing Tetris.

So there would be times if I was able to kind of steal away the video game console, I would play that. And then another one was my older brother has the unfortunate of being one of those kids born around the holidays. But he's just to his advantage. And one year he asked for a PlayStation 2. And I remember very clearly that opening scene of Fall Fantasy 10 on the PlayStation 2 for the first time and all the graphics and I go, and it was just one of those things where it's just ingrained in my mind.

Let me tell you, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X was the last one I played. And you're absolutely right. That opener where the level of cinematic graphics was just like above and beyond what you'd seen before. Oh, thrilling. Yeah. Thrill. And very great reference because that was the last final fantasy that I really delved into too, and it was great.

I felt I thought final fantasy 10 was phenomenal. Yeah, it was. I remember absolutely loving that. Wasn't there also an X2? Wasn't there like a Final Fantasy X2? Yeah, that was one of the first games that I played with no GameShark for people who are not in the know. GameShark was a little device that would allow you

to have like cheat codes and stuff within various games. Right. Or if you're like me and absolutely did not have the patience nor the hand-eye coordination at the time to deal with some of the bigger games, like what was it? Snake Eater. Game Shark, there was Game Genie. Yep.

Game Shark, Game Genie, forgot about that. X2 was the first time where I'm like, crap, I can't get it to work. Why can't I get it to work? And so yes, I had to use my little strategy game and I played X2. I didn't quite get 100%. So I had to go online and somebody uploaded the special ending. But yes, I did beat X2. Good for you.

That's awesome. Good for you. Blueberry, before we let you go, give us a fictional couple, a great fictional couple. Oh, this is going to bite me in the butt, but everybody knows this. I am a diehard Risan and Feyre from the Game of Thrones series. And I stand by that because they definitely support each other through horrible, awful, traumatic things and really started off the whole friendship over time, learning how to trust in themselves, better each other, selves and you know, everything right before I accumulated to a really passionate, passionate romance.

Wait, remind me who they are again. Yeah, I don't know who you're talking about. Feyre and Ressand from the Acora Throne of Roses, sorry, core throne of, throne of roses. Sorry. Oh, you said Game of Thrones. You said Game of Thrones and I was like, did I miss a chapter? I'm like, sorry, sorry, I'm not Game of Thrones. Sorry. My brain's all over the place. All good. All good.

We got a MacGyar fan. Yeah. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Blueberry. Appreciate hearing from you. Thanks for kicking us off. What were those names you, Blueberry. Appreciate hearing from you. Thank you, Blueberry. Thanks for kicking us off. What were those names again, Jared? Do you know those characters? Risa and...

Risa and... Pheron? Pheron, maybe? Pheron? They're fairies, Joe. Yeah, I don't know those names. They're fairies that have... I typed them out the best I could.

Graphic sex. Graphic. Graphic. Sex. Very popular series. I typed about... Let's see what they have to say. All right, let's bring up Jaffer's dog.

Jaffer's dog. Welcome to the show. Can you hear us? Jaffer's dog. Hello? Nope. Nothing. Jaffer, where are you, baby?

Well, your mic is muted, Jaffer. Just undo that and you should be good. Should be good to talk. Oh. Yo, fellas. Yo, mic is muted, Jaffer. Just undo that and you should be good. It should be good to talk. Um, yo, what's up, Jaffer's dog. Where are you calling from? Pensacola, Florida. Pensacola, Florida. Love it. Love it.

Well, holy shit. Are you okay? Yeah. Yeah. We had a little snow, a little unexpected. You had a little snow in Florida? Wow. We did. The world is a changing. Yeah, yeah, we had a little snow, a little unexpected. You had a little snow in Florida? Wow.

We did. The world is a-changing. Jeffers. How is that gonna affect the meth dealers? Are they still gonna be able to get around and They will. Get their meth sold? Jeffers, what was your first?

I could say that about any state, Jeffers. Sorry, I could say that about any state. Not picking on you. What is your first memory of video games? Kind of an odd one. Have you heard of ChexQuest? ChexQuest? ChexQuest. So the Chex cereal actually made like a complete copy of doom, the original doom, the shooter, where it's kind of like you can only look left and right. Yeah.

And it where you play as like a Czech cereal man and you're shooting green globs. Right. I mean, check it was a check serial tie in. It was from the cereal box. This is like one of the few games that I know of that came from the cereal box somehow. I mean, what's there in the. Attached to the side of the check cereal box. You know what? I don't even, this is something I played at, uh,

my little elementary Christian school and said, I go into recess. I would just go in the computer room and like check. What, what year are we talking about here? Ballpark? Oh man. It's gotta be maybe 2000 or something. I think 96. Wow. Amazing. I mean, Jared, I just Googled this shit and checks quest is back and you back now with multiplayer downloadable on steam and it says by checks mix. That's amazing. That is amazing. Jeffaffers, you have to get Chex Quest again and then play it while you eat Chex. Yeah. Oh, for real.

I mean, look at this. You can get it. And the characters are, oh man, the characters are great. Anyway, this is really fun. I put the link in the discord. If anybody wants to go check this out, thank you for bringing this to our attention. Jaffers, give us a great fictional couple. Enter this. enter this contest

It's Have you heard of the sword of kagan? The sword of no is that a fantasy series on books and a book It's kind of what avatar the last airbender based on a bit book. It's kind of what Avatar, the last airbender based on a bit. Um, a lot of people have these nations have different powers based on the elements. It's, it's kind of like a serious book. It starts off as like a couple that are just arranged marriage. But over time a lot of them is, I don't know. A good couple. People don't know this, but my wife and I were actually in a ranged marriage show. Really?

But now we're fully open, as I told you earlier. And we are, the door, the door is open. The door is, it's good to know. And I think that's what makes your marriage so strong. Jeffers, what are the names of the characters that are in a couple in the Sword of Kaigen. Yeah. And, um, don't remember. Jaffers, I think this is the best contrast entry we've ever gotten. Can I get, I want to give everybody a little tip on the contest.

Know the names of the people. And then also, um, you might want to go for something. I mean, Akita is extremely famous blueberry. So I, I don't blame you for going there, but maybe go for something, you know, since Joe and I are judging it and McD, maybe something that we have, have heard of. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta know that's how you win. I'm just telling you how you win. Travis, why don't you come up and tell us a story from your video game. Uh, early years. Good to have you back on the show. Uh, you're muted though, buddy. Travis Mike is muted. All right. Can you hear me now? Yeah, we got you. I can hear you, Travis. Yeah, we got you, Travis. Travis, thank you for using your own photo

for your avatar in Discord, so I know who I'm talking to. Yeah. Yes. I can never decide on a screen name long enough to keep it, so I just use my real name like a psychopath. Yeah, everyone should have to do that by law. If you wanna use the internet, you should have to get a license, and then your real photo and your real full

name should be posted on every social media site. We would solve a lot of problems. That's right. Yep. Oh yeah. I have no problem with voicing my opinions on any matter. So, uh, if it comes down to me defending my position, I'm happy to do it. All right, Travis, give your video game memory and we're going to make you defend it, bitch. Okay. Well, I'm old enough to have started with NES, but I'm going to skip right to game gear

because it's like the, you know, the Leo from Django Unchained. Like I was hooked on video games. This is when it really grabbed me. I was playing an X-Men game. I do not remember the name of it,. I was playing an X-Men game. I do not remember the name of it, but I was sitting in a doctor's office, either waiting for an appointment for myself or for my dad. And I was fighting Sebastian Shaw as rogue and I'm playing the character

and realizing that all I'm doing is making this guy stronger. And it dawns on me that the game has been made in a way that I have to know about the characters powers to actually defeat him So that is brilliant. That's brilliant Travis because of course we all know that Sebastian Shaw the hellfire clubs power is that he can absorb and redirect kinetic energy which Makes rogue a poor opponent for him because one of her main things is the ability to deliver very strong punches. Exactly, same thing. So my favorite character Cyclops and then Gambit, also useless.

However, there's fire in the level and she can fly for short periods of time. So I just get him to walk over the fire, 50 to 100 times, whatever it took, and finally defeat the opponent. That was a, whatever it took, and finally, you know, defeat the opponent. But that was a moment I was like, okay. That's brilliant, Travis, because that's where your comic book knowledge had to meet your video game knowledge.

That's awesome. And that's pretty much the only knowledge I still have is X-Men comic books. We got to talk about the X-Men on the show sometime and you can call back in because there's so many good, are you reading the X-Men right now with Jed McKay? I am and that is amazing but it's so great right? Yeah the Cyclops monologue from the last issue I was telling my boys mom about that. The Shakespeare! Oh yes oh that was so powerful. Chills, pleasurable chills down my spine. The Cyclops monologue from the last issue of X-Men, everybody. Go and check it out.

I got to check this out. I didn't, I didn't know. No, the current X-Men run, they started a new status quo, oh, about 10 issues back. So this is where they move on from Krakoa. They moved on from Krakoa. It's more of a classic setup now. They're once again hunted by the government and what have you and it's just it's just great. It's the work they've been doing our next minute is great. I got to check it out.

Travis give us a great fictional couple. First thing that comes to mind always comes to mind John Crichton, Aaron Soon from Farscape. Okay. John Crichton and Aaron Soon from Farscape. I don't know who that is either. Do you know Farscape Joe? No. Okay. I know Farscape, which I know who John Crichton is. That's the main human guy that was an astronaut that got, that ended up piloting the Farscape or whatever. Who is Aaron soon? Is it that white skin lady? Travis is gone. But Travis, where'd you Travis? Are you okay? I moved on. I moved on. I want to get as many colors as we can. Sorry, Travis. Yeah.

But yeah, I've drawn quite an answer for Roman. All of the answers for romantic couples are ending up being the most obscure. They're just like, people going like, there is an anime called The Ward was not. Lagan Machocho. And in that anime, there is a young cousin of the hero who meets a rice ball selling girl. I would like to submit that as my best romance.

Yeah. Yeah. How about Han and Leia everybody exactly? How about Han and Leia now off the board well done, Jared It is truly if you want to win the contest wasn't for the most obscure Unknown couples in fiction. It is for the most popular, most interesting, most interesting answer. Travis, we're just busting your balls, buddy, and we're going to have that X-Men, we're going to have the X-Men on the show soon. Oh man, you know what? I want to start reading those. Let's talk more about it in nerd news because there's stuff that I want to bring up that we haven't talked about, Jared, that I want to bring up in nerd news that's like

things we need to work on getting caught up on together so that we can talk about on the show. But that X-Men run would be great. I'd love to dive into that. Yeah, check it out. All right, let's get Dachico up here, Dachiccio. I'm not sure how to pronounce your name. Let me know the correct way. You raised your hand earlier See if you're if you'd like to come up I While we wait, I just man. This is bringing back so many so many great memories, especially the very oh areas What's up to Chico? De Sikio de Sikio. Yeah, it's not even internally consistent, but that's what it is

Joe Joe you got it wrong. None of the above, Joe. Joe, you got it wrong. None of the above. I tried. I tried. Uh, what is going on? How are you doing, man? I am doing great. Yeah.

I'm calling from Fort Worth, Texas, by the way. I will be seeing you soon at the Dallas VIP Ascension with my wife. Next week. I, oh, that's wonderful. I won't be there to see Tio. Fort Worth, Texas. Texas, are the meth dealers able to get around? Man, this joke works every time, Jared.

It lands every time. I'm doing it for every state. If anybody were to know that, it would probably be my wife, who is an ER doctor, and so has to deal with some crazy stuff. So you're going to be like, it would be my wife. She smokes a lot of meth. No, no. She helps people recover from the aftermath and we get some crazy stories which is quite

entertaining for me. I bet. Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, I bet. I already forget how to pronounce your name. DeSiccio? DeSiccio, yeah. DeSiccio.

DeSiccio, what is your video game origin story? Yeah, what's your video game origin story? Yeah, what's your video game origin story? I'm not positive this is actually my very first memory because they kind of jumble up when you get to really young, but one of them that really stands out to me are the old jumpstart video games. Do you guys remember these at all? No.

No. Okay, so it was like a series of educational video games. A whole company built on them and they had special CD-ROMs for every single grade from like preschool all the way up to like maybe I don't know if they went all the way up to high school but definitely up to middle school and it's like supposed to be an entertaining way to play a game that you know taught you things that you're supposed to learn at the certain ages and I remember my dad must have gotten some bundle but he had all of them.

Wow. And now how old are you to see Keo? And I remember my dad must have gotten some bundle, but he had all of them. Wow. And how old are you to see Keo? I'm 31. Okay. And were these for the PC or do they play on a console? PC. Yeah, they sound like PC games. So give us an example of your favorite jumpstart game. I can't remember like the specific grade,

but I remember there was one time when I was slightly older, I can't remember the exact age, but I decided to try out playing like a grade above where I was actually at. And I just kept on getting stuck and then things started actually making sense. And it was actually the first one

that I ended up actually completing because there's almost always some subject that I hadn't taught it in school and I've hit a roadblock and then just not play it for forever and so give up actually completing. Because there's almost always some subject that I hadn't taught yet in school, and I've hit a roadblock and then just not play it forever and so give up on it. But that one I remember I actually went through and it's like you're controlling like this person going through these different floors.

It's like a point and click adventure, but with trivia and math and all these different kinds of things. And I just remember actually sitting down, I think that was actually the very first video game I'd actually completed. The first time I'd ever finished the game. How cool to have different games ranked by grade. So, you know, if you're like above your grade level or whatever, that's really cool.

They should actually do that with actual regular video games like Ninja Gaiden should be like grade 71. Impossible to complete. They like, my daughter is playing a few different video games now that she gets so excited to come home and play. And it'll literally be like, it looks like a JRPG sort of three characters facing off against the boss, right? Like across the side of the screen and turn based and they jump up and like jump slash the boss and then jump back and there's hit points and damage and everything.

But in order to execute your turn, you have to like do a basic math problem as the timer is ticking down, you get like four seconds to do like 13 plus eight and you got to like put in an answer. And if you get it right, your guy will jump up and do damage. And she is like super into this. I'm like, these educational games are awesome. I just looked up this jumpstart. Uh, and it's like, I mean, it's awesome and sad started in 1994 and they, they built all these games and increasing, uh, grade levels.

And they were around for a really long time and they, the studio just closed in 2023. I know, actually. Well, they had a good run. They had a really good run. For a video game developer, that is a spectacular run. Yeah, I feel bad that they're gone though, because I would love to have something equivalent for my daughter, you know, when she gets a little bit older.

Yeah. But that company's gone, so I'm going to have to find a new company. I'm sure you will. Get us a, I'm sure there'll be something. I mean, there's so many cool educational video game options You know from what my daughter is is bringing home. There's a lot of cool stuff. Give us a great fictional couple I got to make this quick because I got somebody at the door. But for me, it's Marshall and Lily from how I met your mother They're not perfect. They're erotic in certain ways

But what I love is their ability to step back when they're having issues and put things in perspective Yeah, all right. Good answer. Good answer. Okay. There we go. All right. I've heard of how I met your mother. Okay. Yeah.

How I met your mother. Awesome. I would love if this just started being like, I'm going to go Chandler and Monica from friends. And then the next person is like, hello. It's gotta be Sam and Diane from cheers. Well, what did you have in mind when you thought of this contest? Did you have a couple in mind?

Han and Leia definitely came to mind. Han and Leia, you could go Jean Grey and Cyclops. Should I mention others and take them away? No, no, no, no. That's enough because each one you mentioned we can't consider for the contest. The first one that I jotted down was Han and Leigh. My backup was actually television. So I'm going to-

What was your backup, Joe? My backup was Ben and Leslie from Parks and Rec. I enjoyed that relationship. I thought that that was fun. And I also thought that most people wouldn't say that one. So I was like, I wouldn't mind taking that off the board. But yeah, Han and Lei is a good one to take off the board. Because if somebody said it, I'd vote for it.

But there's some other great ones out there that have not been mentioned. And I'm excited to see who comes up with them. Let's keep going. I am learning so much. So many of these video game stories are games that I did not know about which is which is great Yeah, Larry Larry Larry. Yeah, Larry the cable guy. I call him

Larry Now where'd you go Larry I'm not sure what it is about this process that like takes people a long time to see that they've That they could come up. What about Nick? Nick, do you wanna come up for joining us? We all decided one day that we were- We got it, Nick. Networks and radio stations.

What's up, Nick? Hey, fellas. Thanks for having me. Oh, yeah. Our pleasure. Nick, thanks for calling in. Where are you calling from? Calling from Vancouver, District of Columbia.

Whoa, international edition, Carl. Yeah. Happy to see you. I was going to say both of you, but obviously Jared was in Vancouver. And then I wasn't there. Troy Hobblin on stage in L.A. later that year. That was great. That was awesome. What's your earliest memories from the world of video games?

Oh, man, this this topic was really exciting when you guys, when I heard you guys start talking about it. There's a lot I could just rattle them off. But but you know, if I really get back the very first time I sat down played a video game, you know, picture, you know, this old fisherman in in this shitty trailer with a patina of nicotine

on the walls at my uncle's house playing. He had an NES for some reason and one game and it was just this little NES game that I can't even remember or find where you're just catching fish. There are these little shadows smash cut. He was, he was a fisherman and he had a fishing video game, fishing video game. He's like, this is all there is in the world. It's all I is in the world.

It's all I was meant to do. I know, but like tied in with video game history and all these memories of, you know, being at the grocery store with my dad while he talks to people and me just sitting on the floor reading the EGMs and the PC gamers. And, uh, but you got to go check out the video game history foundation. Exactly. Exactly. I can dig up some of those exact issues, yeah.

But yeah, all that good stuff smashed forward to a couple years when I was able to bully my parents into buying an NES, Castlevania. Oh, yeah. Castlevania, an incredible game. Incredible game. Obviously a game that launched an entire genre is now a descriptor to describe so many games that have come after it, that utilize its style. I mean, you don't realize it at the time. When you're just a kid and you're playing Castlevania, you can't quite put into words

why you're so obsessed with this game compared to other games. Like for me at that time, I was obsessed with Super Mario Brothers and there were a few other games I really liked and but then Castlevania I was just obsessed with. Like could not stop playing it. It's a platformer really but then later the later iterations are not platformers right? I mean they're like a lot different. Yeah yeah it becomes it becomes a lot more complicated right? And of course at that age I don't even know what a franchise is. Yeah, yeah. It becomes a lot more complicated, right? And of course at that age, I don't even know what a franchise is. So like the idea that there should be more of this thing blew my mind and then eventually, you know, I fell off because there's so many.

But yeah. Yeah. Great answer. Castlevania is such good memories. Do you have an answer for best fictional couple? You know, my mind went blank when you asked this. Uh, so I'll give you, I'll give you one that, that might be as, uh, not, not a stretch, but maybe a little outside of the wheelhouse. I'm going to go with red and blue from this is how you lose a time war, which,

uh, popped off in the last year or two when, uh, takes you a viral tweet from Bigglesdickles. Uh, I don't know if you all caught that. Biggles Dickles. I don't know if you all caught that. I did not catch the viral tweet from someone called Biggles Dickles. I also asked the novel. This is how you lose the time. Yeah. I think, I think major media outlets picked it up and this book shot up to like a best seller that I think was a couple of years old already.

I've heard of the book. Their names are red and blue. Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a pretty abstract read, but it's good. Do they have intercourse in the novel? No, but somehow it's actually more steamy than that. I think we're done here, Nick. Thanks for the call. Thanks, Nick. Oh my God, just the way that you said it so seriously and it tends to you like, is there intercourse?

Yeah. Hey, guys, I'm going to be asking the rest of you that when you bring up these fictional couples and the answer is yes, your answer gets a lot closer to that GCN hat. OK. OK, who do we got? Let's bring up Ed Robinson. And thank you for using your full name, Ed. Yeah, no problem. What's up, Ed?

Where are you calling from? What's up, Ed? First, I want to say Go Birds. I was born and raised in Philadelphia, but I'm in Virginia just outside of the DC right now. Okay. Go Birds. Thanks for calling in from Virginia.

Awesome. Yeah, waiting for you to come back to DC. Had to drive to Philadelphia last year to see you guys. Well, thank you for making the trip. Yeah, I can't wait to get back to Z. Yeah, but Joe, you should go to where Ed lives. Okay? Okay.

Stop going somewhere else. Yeah, seriously. Did you come to all those shows at The Miracle? I did not. I actually joined the nation a little bit after you guys stopped coming. Okay. Okay. We're waiting.

The Miracle in DC will always hold a special place in my heart because that was the true start of the chanting your city's name and then Joe. The DC Joe started there. I mean, there was the Boston Joe thing, but DC was the first one to claim me from another city and it was a wonderful night and then everybody started doing it. So yeah, I love DC and The Miracle was an awesome venue. Anyway, Ed, video game memories. Well, my first video game was Pong.

Wow. We sat down on the couch and put the machine on my dad and my laps and played with the controllers that were attached to it. Wow. So you're a young guy, Ed. Yeah, so I'm a young guy. Whippersnapper.

I'm going to say 50s and just leave it at that. Same age as Joe. My bet, my big memory is the Atari 2600. My father and I, we didn't have much of a relationship growing up, but we did play one game of asteroids in the 2600 for 19 hours taking turns and never actually losing all never actually losing all of our ships wow as a team hours for the game to end so wow i will always remember that that's a great memory a lot of a lot of memories for me too of of bonding with my father over video games. Yeah. Although one of my biggest, one of my father's biggest outbursts came from a video game. When we played Street Fighter II with him for the first time and my brother kept using Harukens and my dad rage quit screaming, quit using them lasers.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha lasers Video games were pretty much the only thing my father and I had in common except I I would watch Doctor Who on PBS every Friday night, and he would complain about it And then one Friday night I went out with some friends and came home early and found him watching it by himself And one Friday night I went out with some friends and came home early and found him watching it by himself. Yeah. Isn't that funny? You sneaky bastard. Look it up.

Yeah. Oh God. You're crazy. That's another great memory. This is bringing a tear to my eye. What wonderful memories. I'm being sincere. I'm being sincere.

The only video game my parents ever played was Super Mario Brothers. I was going to say a sequel, but it was just Super Mario Brothers. The original Super Mario Brothers. They got into it. I mean, our whole neighborhood was into it. It was a phenomenon. Everybody would play it. And I remember my mom used to be like, she would be like, Oh, this is how I'll

do my workout time. And we had like a stationary, like a janky ass stationary bike. And she would ride a stationary bike and play Super Mario Brothers. It was like, I just have this image of her exercising and playing Mario. Oh, sorry, I just wanted to say real quick, you brought back the memory of Street Fighter II and just the ability to spam Hadoukens was so funny.

Like if you could get that rhythm on it, it was Hadouken, Hadouken, Hadouken. He'd just keep getting knocked back. I played a lot of Street Fighter II with McD. Oh hell yeah. In the day. And I won all the time, right McD? Yeah, you're real good.

My younger brother always beat me. My brother who's two years younger than me always wiped the floor with me and my dad. He's just better at video games. That's what's bad at fighting games, but I still loved playing with him. Ed, give us a great fictional, a couple. Oh, there's so many. I'm gonna go with outside of the Disney Star Wars universe

here and go with Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade. Oh, good one. I love their story. I loved how they started out as enemies and you knew the minute that they met and started out as enemies that they were eventually going to be a couple. And watching that story evolve was just, as somebody who read a lot of books back then, that was like my one, what I guess they call a ship nowadays, I would grab the next Star

Wars book just to see if those two were going to get together yet Yeah so That universe is now disavowed Joe and that that universe you're talking about that was the books right that was like the Starting starting with the Empire's name air to the Empire. Yeah Book she appeared in. Those books were so good. I love his books. I remember really loving those books. Uh, anyway, thank you. That was great call. And you know, Luke would be a gentle and attentive lover too.

And uh, by being attuned to the force, who knows what kind of moves he's pulling out of the exactly who knows what he could get into? Friend of the show, longtime friend of the show, Jobster. Is this the first we've heard from you on glass can of radio, buddy? Longtime listener, first time caller. Can you hear me okay? Yeah, first time. Yeah, you sound great. How you doing, man?

Thank you. I actually have a new microphone that I got for playing Pathfinder with my friends. This is the first time I'm using it. I'm doing it. That sounds lovely. It sounds great. Tell the first time I'm using it. I'm doing all right. That sounds lovely. It sounds great. Tell the niche where you're calling from. I am calling from beautiful Denham, Massachusetts.

It's the first day in about a week that both of the kids are at school. Is it snowy there? What are they, sick? Yeah, they've been sick, because kindergarten and daycare are essentially active bioweapons labs. Yes. So they're just sick because kindergarten and daycare are essentially active bio weapons labs.

Yes, they're just sick all the time. Yeah, I know. I'm going to pull a game. One of my earliest gaming memories was my dad had an Apple Macintosh and there was this game called Airborne where you had this little stick figure and you could switch between your anti-aircraft cannon and a mortar to blow up the paratroopers. They were coming at you on the ground,

they would jump out, and you know, it was a shooter. It was very simplistic. And I remember my dad and I were kind of, he was, you know, he had all the top scores. And then one day I just kind of locked in with the NeuroSpicy focus with my ADHD and I think I got. 10,460 points, which is like twice as much as he he'd ever scored.

Nice. Wow. That was that was an early one, but he also would play Dark Castle and there's just like sound effects from that game, like the guy climbing the rope going right, right, right, right, right. Are you getting knocked for looking at, whoa, whoa. Right. So that's like a classic, my core video game memories.

And then also playing GoldenEye on the N64, because I was at boarding school in 11th and 12th grade. And it was like, if someone got a phone call on the hall phone, because cell phones didn't exist yet, the person who was like trying to find them would check their room, and then they would go to Alec and Brendan's room, because that's where the N64 with the four controllers was.

Yeah. Right. Oh, I had so many great, and McD as well, we had so many great golden eye memories back in the day. So much golden eye, God. And it's like unplayable now. Like I feel like it's unplayable now. I feel like it's un, I've gone down that nostalgia road

where you'll be at a convention or some, whatever. You'll be in a situation where you can play an actual old school N64. Be like, pop in Goldeneye. And it's like, the movement is so different now what they do with first person shooters. And the way it all operates, I'm like, I can't even play this anymore but it was so so fun back

then. How did your dad take it when you beat him in Airborne? I'm gonna answer that I was talking to my dad a few years ago and I mentioned that one of my younger sisters had gotten back into playing soccer again and we were talking about how that was good for her. And I was like, yeah, and also, you know, she's the most competitive person in the family. And he looks at me for a second and goes, no, she's not. So I'm gonna, that's, he didn't handle it well.

Yeah, that's good. It's good to teach your father who the real boss is and to eclipse your elders. What is your favorite romantic couple from fiction? OK, so when you asked about best favorite couple, one of the ways I look at it's like, what couple would you want to be? And a lot of people have named couples that go through a lot of drama. And so I true.

My top answer would be Gomez and Morticia Adams. That's a great answer. Possible winning answer right there. That is possible. That was one of the ones I was thinking of when I was like, there are monsters out there. Great job, Jobster. Thanks Jobster. Good call. Hey Joe. I'm glad your kids aren't sick for the moment. Yes. Should we start moving on to our next topic? To our next topic? Yeah, sure. I mean, we have just so many people with their hands up. Let's take a couple more, a couple more. Okay.

And then we can move on. But you know what? We can also keep this. We can also keep this kind of tight too. Let's get a chauvaris up here. Chauvaris who get, let's get a young buck up here. I know that chauvaris is on the younger end. Yeah.

Uh, long time member. What's what's up chauvaris. Welcome back. Thank you very much. How are you doing, buddy? All good now. I'm calling from Cork in Ireland, as opposed to the usual Galway. Oh, you're in Cork right now. Why? For work? Yeah, business or pleasure?

I moved in for work. Business, yeah. Yes, I'm living here for eight months. Oh, so you because you finished school in Galway and I'm I'm nearly finished. I'd like have to do the internship for eight months as part of the course to finish it off. Oh, your internships in Cork. Yep.

Well, Chavaris always wins all of the contests. So we're going to get an incredible fictional couple from him. But yeah, first, what is your what is your video game memory? all of the contests. So I'm thinking we're gonna get an incredible fictional couple from him. But yeah, first, what is your video game memory? So I started off like playing educational point and click games when I was like one or something, Jen put in the chat there, which is one that I played.

But the first games that I really remember growing up, there was three core ones. There was Gran Turismo, kind of starting with Gran Turismo 4 Prologue. I don't know if you ever played any of those. I played Gran Turismo on PlayStation, the first one, with McD, a ton, in the summer of 1998. We lived in a shore house together and I was like not into racing games. I had never been outside of pole position, Literally. I had never been into racing games. I started playing Gran Turismo and it's like an

RPG of a racing game. It's like, it is addictive and fascinating and you want to upgrade every little piece of your car and you can actually feel the difference when you're driving it. When you make one part change, like that game deserves all the accolades it gets in my opinion and all the sequels. Cause it's just one of the greatest, one of the greatest. When Joe says he, uh, when Joe says we played it together, he means I sat next to him and watched Joe play for an entire summer. You've always been a video game cuck. You've always like to sit and watch. It was a company.

I don't want to cut into Sean's time too much here, but McD, what were you playing Final Fantasy seven that summer? And I had the strategy book or was it King was playing Final Fantasy seven. Do you remember? It was Final Fantasy tactics. No, no, no. We played a lot of tactics, but somebody was playing Seven. King was playing Seven.

I had already played it. Yeah, so our buddy was playing Seven, and somebody mentioned earlier, I think it was Blueberry right out of the gate was talking about working out of the book and to get through a Final Fantasy. And I remember, I do have that memory of like, I would read the book and tell my buddy what to do

in every encounter in Final Fantasy Seven. Anyway, Sean, please. Uh, sorry to interrupt, but yeah. Gran Turismo 4. Yeah. So like I'm still playing the new ones. The new one is insane. Like it has realistic weather simulations. Like it's, it's completely mental. Um, but the other games that were kind of core memories for me were playing Lego, Star Wars, the complete saga on the PS3 with my dad and my sister. That's a young answer. Cause I think of those games as like kid, you know, games for kids. I, so I was an adult by the time those started coming out.

It's like, if you're looking for something to play with your kids, they are fantastic. The new one, I think is a bit complicated, but if you get the complete saga one, it is such a fun game. Cool. That's, that such a fun game. Cool. That's that's good to know. Yeah. Something I could something I could maybe get on like a switch or something and play with.

Yeah. Yeah. I think they really said like you'll find it on all sorts of stuff. And that's it's a really good like simple game like fun puzzles and just great and Star Wars, which is obviously fantastic. All right. And then give us the last game that I had was that is like my favorite game of all time. Nearly is a Pokemon Platinum version.

That was like the first game that I had on my Nintendo DS, which is my first like handheld console. And I played like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours and that and got an action replay to get cheats so that I could like get all the hidden stuff in it. Just phenomenal. Cool. I loved I got I was obsessed with Pokemon Silver. I think it was on.

Right. That's what I played, Joe. Yeah. And I'm gold and silver. I mean, I got obsessed with that game. That game was so addictive. All right. Give us a great couple. Mulder and Scully. Oh, come on. But is it romantic?

But is it romantic, Chavarous? Yeah, that's you know, that's the question. Great answer, Chavarous. Thank you for the call. But yeah, definitely gets you. Definitely gets you thinking. All right. One more one more call there, Jared. Then I'll let you move on to nerd news. We're so excited to talk nerd news, but there's just too many folks that want to get in here,

and new folks too. What about, let's see, how about Modest Warfare? I don't think we've had Modest Warfare on the show before. I like that name. Hello. Can you hear me? Hey, how are you Modest? I'm doing well.

How are y'all? We're doing fantastic. I'm doing freaking great, man. This is such a blast. What is, where are you modest? I'm doing well. How are y'all we're doing fence? I'm doing freaking great man. This is such a blast What is where you calling from? Houston, Texas. All right, Houston, Texas No, I can't make it up there which I have a little bit of a bone to pick with you because you haven't made it to You know the good city in Texas Yeah, I've not been to Houston. Joe, you should go to Houston where,

where modest warfare lives. Thank you. Instead of where you are going. And then we'll head to Virginia. Yeah. Where, was it Nathan? I can't remember who it was. Next year, the Glass Cannon is announcing

428 live dates. That's, that's more than one per day. And they're going to be hitting Saskatoon. They're going to be hitting Cassville, West Virginia, Sandusky, Ohio. If you live there, the glass cannon will be there. To be fair, Jared, I think your ball busting is a little excessive when the two suggested cities are Houston, Texas and Washington, DC.

They're pretty big markets. We should be playing there. We really should. We're giving a little too much love to Austin just because Troy and I love going out and partying in Austin. But anyway, Modest Warfare, please tell us about your video game memory. So I was thinking the first one that I loved was Ocarina of Time. And if you're talking about like really good printed material for a game like that one,

that was really good. Yeah. But actually, I wasn't alive when the Atari came out, but my dad had one and I used to play missile command. Oh, yeah, I forgot about missile command. Yeah, that was a great game. That was a great game. I remember playing that game and missile command was the game where when you lost, it did that

flashing thing and you knew that your entire world had been decimated by nuclear destruction. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. High stakes. destruction. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, high stakes. Right. Oh my God. Very cool. I wanted to, I joined this week because y'all's talk about streaming last week

really got me thinking. And I wanna get a little bit boring for a second and philosophical if that's all right. Please. I don't, that's a horrible way to intro your comment. I don't know if I can agree to that. I'm going to get boring and philosophical. That's why.

All right. I'll allow it, but watch yourself McCoy. So what do you got? In the book, Anti-Oedipus by Deleuze and Guattari, they talk a lot about capitalism as one of the main focuses of that book. And one of the things they talk about is how it comes up against these external and internal limits. So external limits would be things like there's not enough resources to create this product.

There's not enough labor power to make it, you know, that kind of thing. Whereas internal limits are things like the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. So you've sell something and suddenly everybody has this thing and now nobody needs to buy it anymore and you're not making a profit. And I think that video games are really interesting example of this, because, you know, we used to have these games that you would buy, you'd have a physical copy, came with a lot of really cool extra stuff, and that doesn't work on a large scale

because now everybody has that game and nobody's buying the game anymore. And so you get things like microtransactions in games as one way to overcome that limit of not making a profit. Or you put everything on a subscription service and make people pay for it month after month after month. Like the Blizzard model. As a way to continuously make profit. And so, like, unfortunately, the economic system that we're in right now. It's just going to get worse. It's just going to keep happening over and over again. So it's really cool that you all are talking about that.

The company that's or the nonprofit that's archiving all these things is like we have to do that. Otherwise, it's just going to get all taken from us. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the reason, McD chime in here if you want, but that's the primary reason McD brought it up initially as a subject he wanted to talk about on the show was he was like, these things are going to go away and people are going to take them away from us and never have them seen again because we don't own them." And so we're not allowed to kind of have access to it.

And so yeah, it feels like an important mission to, as you can see today, all these great calls like our history, these are our memories. They're so important to us. And it's great that somebody is compiling these things in a place where we can remember them because so many other things are remembered really well. There's museums for so many parts of history, but not video games yet.

And so I'm glad that this foundation. And last episode we were saying physical media, get physical media, you know? But video games, you kind of can't anymore, right? I mean, they're just aren't. They're still making some physical discs, but it's really, I mean, the new consoles, I believe, just don't have optical drives in them anymore,

or you can get them if you spend, pay extra. But for the most part, they're just eliminating it completely. Yeah, it's a tricky time. Anyway, Modest, give us a great fictional couple. Tyler Durden. It's a tricky time. Anyway, Modest, give us a great fictional couple. Tyler Durden. Tyler Durden, period.

Tyler Durden, period. Clever answer. I'll give you that. Very, very interesting relationship. That is clever. So, let's move on to nerd news, Jared. Let's talk a little nerd news. So this is just gonna be kind of a catch all for a bunch of things that are kind of going on

and we'll just kind of rapid fire through them a little bit. Maybe we'll take a collar here and there. The first thing we wanted to talk about is that the new trailer for the Fantastic Four movie, the new Fantastic Four film, First Steps dropped, I think last week. And I wanted to get your thoughts on it, Joe. Did you take a look? What do you think? Yeah, I took a look. You know, it's just here are my quick thoughts. One, I don't know anything

about the Fantastic Four. So you're not a fan of the Fantastic Four? Not a fan. I'm not saying I dislike them. I just, I don't know anything about them. And this is largely because I never read the comics obviously. And then I always heard the movies stunk. Like so from when the first one came out, it was kind of like, nah, it's not that great. So I just didn't watch it. I don't- I'm in the club of those movies stink. Okay. Yeah. So I just didn't watch them. I am, skid is like such a great litmus test for me. McDermott's a great litmus test for me. Like they'll, they'll see something.

And if they're like, nah, it was all right. I don't even spend time watching it. Like I don't need to, I don't need to form my own opinion. I'm just like, I'd rather go watch something that skid tells me is great. This is skids in the chat by the way. And thanks for being here. Skid skid mentioned how much he loved a Gran Turismo 1, the first Gran Turismo. It's so good. Anyway, Skid was, I remember Skid being like, he has comments on every iteration of the Star Wars development since the Disney purchase and everything that came out. He would typically not like things and I would just be like, all right, well, I'm not interested.

If Skid doesn't like well, I'm not interested. If Skid doesn't like it, you know, I'm not interested. And from episode one, he was just like, you have to watch Andor, right? And I just went and watched it immediately. Like, and so Fantastic Four just flew under my radar. I haven't really done much about it. What I will, so I'm excited to check this out. I hope that somebody is going to make, you know, a version that everybody likes and it's really enjoyable.

All I'll say from the trailer, I dig the style, I dig the look. You like the 1960s milieu. Yeah, yeah, I think that that's fresh and interesting, and I really love the actors. I know most of the, I think three of the main of the four. I know really well from other projects where I feel like they truly stood out as phenomenal actors.

Well, there's Pedro Pascal, of course. Yeah, so Pascal, of course, who I loved in Game of Thrones and then obviously loved in The Last of Us. I keep looking up. There's the guy from the bear who's doing the name, uh, the guy from the bear. Yeah. So I, I'm sorry that I'm not, I'm not familiar with their names. So it's Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby.

I love an, uh, Eben Moss Bach Bach rock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bach rock. Wait, who's playing, who's playing Sue Storm? Uh, Vanessa Kirby. So what do you know her from?

I know her from, uh, mission impossible. And I think the crown, I think she's in the crowd, but she was terrific. And like in the crown, she played really great dramatic role. But then in mission impossible, she played like one of those sort of, um, hard to kind of wrap your head around global bad-ass like, like, um, power brokers, right? Like it's a fun role to kind of play. It's kind of weird, like, Oh, this person is so powerful. They know everyone, they can move anything anywhere.

They can get anything done. She played that role and she played it so well. Like she's scary. She's intense. And so I feel like she ran, you know, in the crown, she's plays like the princess. So she's really runs the gamut really well. And, uh, and so, yeah, I really, I dig her. So I'm excited.

I'm excited. Well, here's my, here's my two cents. I think I'm over Marvel altogether. I don't see any Marvel trailers anymore. I'm, I just don't get excited. I, um, uh, I just think it's been around a long time. I was there opening day of iron man in 2008. I was there opening day of Avengers end game.

And that is weirdly a little bit where it ended for me. I, I ha I've seen, uh, many of the stuff that's come out since then, and I haven't loved any of it. Um, I think the thing looks really fake in the trailer. I think the thing looks like a cartoon. Um, I think sometimes with these CGI characters, seeing them in a fight moving really quickly works. Like for example, the Hulk and the first Avengers movie,

seeing them kind of standing around talking to people and cooking, it starts to annoy me. Um, I, I, I started getting really strong Jar Jar Binks vibes and cooking, it starts to annoy me. Um, I, I, I started getting really strong Jar Jar Binks vibes and, uh, but I will say, I'm excited to see John Malkovich, John Malkovich. They, they show a shot of John Malkovich at the end. Yeah. And I'm like, well, I'll watch John Malkovich in anything, you know? Okay. Um, I am a fan of the fantastic work. I'm not excited to see Galactus. I mean, if the thing is not working for me,

I don't know how a giant purple man with a weird helmet is gonna work. I just don't know how it's gonna work. I am curious, a little curious to see how they use the 60s to, you know, what is the point of the movie going to be? Like, how are they going to use that 1960 set setting to say something about today or to say something about the characters that is, um, that's a meaningful message in some

way. Is it, and I don't want this, this is going to sound stupid. Uh, is it an alternate history of the 1960s? And I don't like, I know it's alternate because they're, they're super heroes. What I'm saying is like, is it like a retro futuristic sort of 1960s? I saw some shots of Manhattan in the trailer that almost looked like modern day as if, you know, like kind of like a, uh, Christ, what's that great video game? That's like, it has the art deco vibe.

Bio Bio like a Bio shock sort of thing. Is it like, is it actually set in the 60s or is it like the Baxter building? Is where it's like shot of the Baxter building the Fantastic Four's headquarters, which is always sort of like, you know, ultra modern and special. But I don't know. I mean, we'd have to wait and see how alternate they're going, but I think it's supposed to take place

in the past of the current MCU. I don't know. I don't know. So it takes place. And I'm a little disinterested in keeping track of all of that now. I hear you. And I hear you on the Marvel fatigue.

I've got more room in my heart for Marvel stuff. So I'm excited about Captain America. I will. So I'm I'm excited about Captain America. I will check it out. I'm excited about Fantastic Four. I will check it out. But I'm more excited about Thunderbolts. I'm a little bit more excited about Thunderbolts because I love that cast. What else we got on nerd news? Well, I wanted to let everybody know that there is a book out right now. I know this isn't book club, but there's a book out right now that is making some waves that I love the author. It's called Witchcraft for Wayward Girls and it's a horror novel by the writer Grady Hendrix and I can't recommend Grady Hendrix enough. I read his last novel which was called How to

Sell a Haunted House which was so great because it was like, it was scary, but it was like also like super accessible and, and like easy to read, but it was also very fun to read, but, but it wasn't simple. It had like a lot going on under the surface. And from what I've heard of this new book, it's set in the 1970s. It's about women who have to go to like a sort of like a house you go to if you're like pregnant out of wedlock. They would, you know, these women would go and stay in these houses like,

and kind of hide from the world until they had their child whom they would maybe give up for adoption. And then witchcraft becomes involved so the last novel that how to sell a haunted house was literally about two siblings whose parents die and then they find out that they're like very modest suburban like ranch house and like a rundown neighborhood is Actually haunted by this like horrible spirit that in there and puppets become involved. I'm telling you this guy is an amazing author. Let me see if I can. I have a book of his

that's nonfiction called paperbacks from hell and it's just this sort of like big beautiful picture book of all the covers of these weird horror novels that came out in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You know what those beautiful painted covers with like someone missing half their face like reaching out of the cover. It's all about like, you know, the horror paperbacks of the past.

This guy has this deep love of that stuff and he brings it into his writing. So you gotta check out, it's on my pile already. Witchcraft for wayward girls, which came out in January. I already bought it. I have it on my Kindle. You have it on your Kindle. Yeah.

Is it Kindle unlimited or you? I, it is not Kindle unlimited. It's like a new, it's like a new book that people were kind of excited about. Sounds interesting. I mean, this is, uh, yeah, I just put it on my wishlist, uh, to, to remind myself, uh, and the author too, I got to look into, I always love the name Grady. That was my character's name in season three of get in the trunk. It's just, I love that name.

Uh, I, I, uh, it sounds like, did you see Philomena? Oh my gosh, that's a long time ago, but yes. Isn't that like, that's kind of the home? With Steve Coogan, yeah, and is it Dame Judi Dench? Dame Judi Dench, so like back when she was a kid, like a teenager, that's kind of the house that she was in, right, like she was sent to a place because she was pregnant, out of wedlock,

and she had to live there in like hiding until she had this baby and uh wow that's a cool uh setting. It's a cool setup right because there's you know and what what Grady Hendrix at least in my one experience with him is very good at doing his characters so the characters in the haunted house book were so well thought out and they had histories and they had motivations that brought them against each other and and that setting of that, that kind of like halfway house for girls, that sounds like that's right with a lot of like great character stuff to mine. So I'm really, really, really looking forward to reading it.

Uh, I think, I think we had an error here in, uh, uh, discord real quick. So Jared, just make sure you go in and hop on Discord again. Oh, no. Yeah, it's repopulating now. I don't know what the hell happened. But yeah, you just gotta go back into Discord. I'm back, baby. All right. Once we get to and get make sure you hop on stage. Yeah, you're on stage there. McD, why don't you come up? You, you had something you wanted to mention in nerd news

or are you currently dealing with this discord meltdown? I can't hear him. I got more Joe. I can keep going until he's able to hop in. Okay. So, um, there's a new pathfinder AP coming out that I'm kind of excited to check out. Do you know about this one? It's going to be out in March called shades of blood. Yep. I do know about it. Please talk about it. Well, I will just say that one of my favorite things is vampires. And this looks like it's a vampire, um, themed AP. Now the only problem with APs is that I'm never going to get a chance to play them all or even,

uh, even a chunk of them, but I have gotten into reading them lately and I've been reading some of the old ones from oney and some of the two ones. And I really think I'm going to check this one out because you know, I'm a huge vampire and horror fan and the last one they had that was sort of horror theme was carrying crown for oney This looks like a very different experience It looks like it's a bit of a dungeon crawl and it's dealing with like ancient as Lanty vampires or something like that That sounds yeah my own my fucking dope. Yeah, my understanding of it is that the the AP kicks off in Talmandor's bounty, which is the setting of the start of the Ruins of Aslan campaign, which we played a decent amount of, not all of. And so yeah,

I'm familiar with that setting and it's kind of out far away from all the activity of Avastan. So yeah, a cool place to have a vampire adventure. Yeah, that's very interesting. So, I mean, and you know, when it comes to vampires, you know, it's really cool when you get like, like, I like the Count Dracula type 1800s vampires, but it's really cool when you get like the fucking Egyptian vampires or like the weird raw Roman vampires or like these vampires that are a little bit more alien or ancient. Um, so, uh, I'm very, very into that and I need someone in

the niche to run it so I can play in it. And then I need, uh, I need for my children to be shipped off to boarding schools so that I have time to do that. Right. Exactly. Uh, it's so funny. in the day when we were playing, like, we were playing Jade region skid was running rise of the rune Lords and I wasn't playing in his rise of the rune Lords game all the time. I would guess the occasionally, but like we'd be, I mean, this became reflected in the network years later. It's like we'd be in the middle of an AP having a great time, not, you

know, loving everything about it. But when you see the new APs coming out a great time, not, you know, loving everything about it. But when you see the new APs coming out and like what they're about and stuff, we'd be like, can somebody start running this one too? Like, let's just play more pathfinder APs. I mean, they're fantastic. Yeah. Like they're just really great. The, the old ones are great. I'm enjoying reading a hell's rebels right now. Oh yeah. I think it's really cool, yeah. And I'm reading some of the Age of Ashes.

McD, didn't you run that? You're muted, at least in Discord, I think. I don't think you're muted for just me, but. McD. Yeah, we, the Hall of discord dropped out, which was rough. Yeah, McD is not McD is not muted for me. Should we try to take a caller and see if anybody wants to talk about nerd news and make sure that's working?

Oh, everybody can hear him except me. Okay. So it's, it sounds like a, I can't hear him either, Joe. Oh, okay. Twitch can hear him. Twitch chat can hear him. So that's good, but we can't, so and nobody in Discord can.

Yeah, let's take a caller. As Discord came back online, tons of people raised their hands, so let's get Lazy Eagle IRL. You want to come up and chime in here on Nerd News on video games? What do you want to talk about? Hi guys, how are you? Great, how are you? Loving the show. First time living and live. So yeah, I was delighted just finished work and I'm avoiding my kids in my house.

So just a few minutes. I can always relate to someone avoiding their own children. You came to the right place. Hey, you came to the right place. Just wanted to say that the Fantastic Four trailer, now I've never read much Fantastic Four. I've always been aware of them, but I thought it looked all right. I don't know, Jared. I know you you've a thing, an issue with the thing.

I thought he looked OK. I'm not sure what, yeah. Especially there was a shot in the trailer of him looking at his reflection in the glass. And I thought that looked good. Wearing the hat and the trench coat. But I don't know. You're not a little tired of CGI characters

interacting with real characters. I mean, I know they get the physics mostly right now, but I always feel like it's a cartoon character. Yeah, but you know, it looks practical enough, you know, close enough to something like Hellboy. And I just don't know if we're ever going to get anything that looks better as the thing in live action. I think, you know. I think it's a good point. It is a good point. It's just like, well, would you rather them just not make the fantastic core movies simply because you can't make a good looking thing out of CGI?

I don't know. Okay. We did a lot of Marvel. Let's do something else. Now there's so many properties and things out there that people love that haven't been made into these like high budget movies. I don't know. I mean, I'm a big Fantastic Four fan.

I've read tons of the comics and I'm okay with it being a comic book. What you would call great, great, I always have trouble with this name. Great Gray Squid in Twitch says, they did it practical other times and it looked like foam stuck to a bodybuilder. It looks like shit. You know, some things work in comics that don't work outside of comics. And the thing

might be one of them. Galactus might be one of those things. That's, you know, one thing that's great about certain media mediums rather is that there are things that work specifically for that medium. The thing is one of them. Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Lazy Eagle, give us a great couple in fiction. I'm not sure how late you came in, but we're asking people to give in honor of Valentine's Day, asking people to give us a great fictional couple and the winner is going to get a GCN hat in a giveaway. What do you got? A great fictional couple.

Lazy eagle. Don't be lazy right now, buddy. Sorry. It's a hard question. Yeah, especially, I had a feeling that you came in late and didn't know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a hard question. Yeah, especially, I had a feeling that you came in late and didn't know. Oh yeah, yeah. It's all right. It's just a couple. You got three seconds. Yeah, don't worry. Yeah, I'll have an answer next time. Okay, well thank you for calling in.

Please come back. Thanks, guys. It's great to hear from you. I will, I will. All right. The show. Cheers. Bye. Bye.

Thanks, Lazy Eagle. That was great. McD, do we have you back yet? Are you working in Discord? No. Man. I don't know what's going on. Everybody can hear him on Twitch. I feel naked without McD. I know. I feel like we're lost and alone and he wanted to, he wanted to, oh man, this sucks.

All right. Well, uh, I hear something I want to talk about. I'd love to talk about, uh, this isn't new news, but we're in the middle of it. And that is, uh, severance. Now severance don't know. Wait, I only started saying anything. All I'm saying is I adore severance and we've never mentioned it in the first four weeks, which is crazy. Cause this is the time when everybody's talking about severance. So just know that, uh, I've talked to Jared, uh, off air about severance. You said you've never watched any of it. Well, I've watched now two episodes of season one. Right, so you're getting started

and Jared's gonna get caught up and just be ready. By the end of season two, we're gonna have a mega app on Severance. Oh my God, I have so much Severance to watch. Yeah, you've got a lot of Severance to watch. Okay. But dude, you've got months to watch it. So don't worry about it. Got a couple months before we're gonna have to. But dude, you've got months to watch it. So don't

worry about it. Got a couple months before we're going to have to talk about it, but we're going to have to talk about it on Glass Can of Radio. This is the forum to let everybody weigh in. So I don't want to hear any complaints about spoilers. You've got from now until April, like start watching, binge watch Severance and get caught up. Um, yeah, anyway, that's one thing I wanted to mention. Uh, McD brought something to our attention, which was the movie Ash. The trailer came out for that. So I thought this looks really great. Um, if you guys haven't seen this trailer and it made a flown under your radar,

cause this is like a shutter movie. And sometimes those are not as big you know of releases as other films. There is a new movie coming out called Ash. It has Aaron Paul, the guy from Breaking Bad who's not Bryan Cranston and it looks like a sci-fi horror film with alien vibes but there also appears to be a psychological thing going on. Like man, like a memento lost memories kind of thing going on. And I saw a lot of really goopy, weird, bloody, strange effects in it. Event horizon-ish things going on.

Sure, yeah, yeah. It looked awesome to me. So it's kind of alien. Well, I don't know anything about it. I'm saying you look at the trailer and you get alien vibes, you get event horizon vibes, but yes, great point. You also get memento vibes or like lovecraftian horror kind of vibes, cosmic horror vibes. I didn't know anything about this. McD was like, we got to talk about this in nerd news and the new Aaron Paul movie and uh Aaron Paul looks great in it you know he's he's coming in as he's an astronaut uh he's not even the main guy he's not even the main main

character it looks like it's this woman I expected him to be the main character and it's kind of cool the way he comes in he comes in as someone who the who knows the main character who the main character seems to not know like Like, who are you? And he's like, you know me. And that it's so it has that kind of memento feel anyway. Looks cool. So this is amazing. So it's directed by Flying Lotus. It's that that that lead.

Her name is Issa Gonzalez. But it's also got a guy I worked with one time on the movie Stuber. It's got eco eco us who's from the raid. Have you ever seen the raid movies? No. Oh my God. Joe, you haven't seen the raid? No, I don't even know what you're talking about.

You would love the raid. You would love the raid. It's an Indonesian action movie where this cop has to go up all the levels of this tower to take down a drug lord. Okay. Anyway, I highly recommend The Raid and The Raid 2. So anyway, yeah, Ash looks like it has an incredible cast. What else did Flying Lotus direct? I'm interested in that.

Sharky in chat says, all caps, Joe, you gotta watch the raid. Yeah, you would love the raid, Joe. And the raid too is really fun too. Okay, so Flying Lotus directed some sequences in VHS, the VHS films, you know, where they're like found footage horror. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's fun. Yeah. Um, yeah. So, um, and he, he directed some Kendrick

Lamar stuff. Anyway, I think this movie is going to be cool. I hope it's cool and, uh, I'm looking forward to seeing it. Yeah. I don't, uh, I don't know. I think that's one that I'll, I'll wait on for a minute. I'll see if you liked it. But yeah, I mean, it does look like it's maybe not a giant budget. I'm not sure. We'll see. It looks like it's gonna be scary as shit. Yeah, it looks like it's gonna be.

There he is! There he is, hey buddy. So this was, sorry, we stole your thunder. Ash was McD's nerd news thunder. Yeah, but the trailer looks dope. It made me immediately think of Delta Green, you know, as so many horror, love crafting things do these days. Yeah, and event horizon for sure.

Yeah, right. Definitely event horizon vibe. That movie reminds me of you Joe. Event horizon. Yeah, it reminds me of you. I love that movie. We watched it in the basement of an abandoned VA hospital. That's not even a joke.

We actually watched it in the basement of a former VA hospital. That had to make it even scarier. Terrifying. And it was big screen in the days when big screens were rare. It was one of those big boxes, not a projector, but a big box screen.

Right, sure. One of those 60-inch TVs that projector, but like a big box screen. Right, sure. Like one of those 60 inch TVs that was like only super rich people had them. They were, it was in our college dorm. Anyway, it was great. Event Horizon has one of my favorite horror movie moments of all time. And it's uttered by the incredible actor, Lawrence Fishburne.

In Event Horizon, they, the recording of what happened to the last crew and they play it back and it's unbelievably horrific. And then just as it ends, Lawrence Fishburne goes, we're leaving. And then they, so it's like really funny. And you're like, fuck yeah, you're leaving.

And it's like someone doing smart, something smart in a horror movie, which is like going like, you know what I mean? Like, let's get the fuck out of here. We should split up and search the ship. Like, no, we're leaving. We're leaving. That is a great delivery of a line.

It's also great, like you say, you, man, we could do a whole segment of a show just on Event Horizon and breaking that down. It's great. But you said it's like unspeakable horror is what they see on that thing. And so for anybody that hasn't seen it, you can't describe it verbally. Like you have to watch it to see like how horrifying it truly is. It's amazing.

Yeah. Uh, should we take another caller on near news? Let's take one more on nerd news. And then I want to, I want to know this game. You told me there's a new game you played, uh, that you wanted to check out. Nate dog. Nate dog. What up? Yeah. What's up? Nate? How are you? Doing good. Good, where are you calling from? Snowy Delaware. Ah, okay. There you go, Gerhard.

Are the meth dealers able to get through the snow? Yeah. They certainly are. All around their little Amish horse and buggies. Yeah. Nate, what did you want to talk about? So like the nerd news that I've been, you know, looking forward to and waiting on is the new Kingdom Come Deliverance game just got out.

It just came out. I love the first game. And so like this, I think it's going to finally push me to actually get a newer console. Been holding off, but it looks so good. Well, tell me about this. What is this? So I don't know anything about it. So Jared Kingdom come deliverance. I played maybe 20, 30 hours of it. I never completed it, but what an awesome game and concept for a game. You would love it, Jared. It is like it plays kind of like a first person,

like a Skyrim kind of medieval, quote unquote fantasy, right? But it's not, it's historical fiction. So you're playing a character in a medieval era who is like a, I think you're a blacksmith son in the first movie and your father is like in the prologue, just like killed by some Lordling, right? Like some piece of shit lordling who just didn't like the cut of the sword or something. I can't remember, but it gets you fired up. The story's great. And then you go into the service like as a knight, like, or as like a soldier, you go into the service of this Lord's enemy. And then it creates this whole long

historical fiction story. Really great. And the sequel, sequel, well, it's King to Come Deliverance 2, just came out, but Nate, isn't this set like in like Bohemia, I think, right? Yeah, medieval Bohemia, during an actual invasion by like the Hungarians, I think, or the King of Bohemia's brother. Yeah, so it's based on actual events, right? And it's, yeah.

Yeah, and you just play a peasant who like, when you start is just absolutely awful at everything. It's like such a unique RPG. I've never played one like it. It's like a role-playing game, so you get better skills and abilities and stuff. Yeah, but like, and it's, it's pretty like realistic. You get, you know, you start with just absolute shit gear and, uh, you know,

get the absolute piss beat out of you all the time until you can finally get like a single piece of armor. Um, it's really challenging, but a lot of fun and it sounds awesome game. It looks like they've built the budget and like added a whole bunch of stuff that they couldn't do in the first game. Yeah, the first game is like it's such a great concept, but it does have a bit of a low budget feel like it doesn't feel super polished. But they did a lot of work on fighting mechanics, like actually like the fighting mechanics for the actual sword.

You have to decide if you're coming from upper right to lower left or upper left to lower right. You have to be in time to block things. And if you get hit with a sword, you just die, you know, in the wrong spot at the wrong time. So yeah, like Nate was saying, without armor, it's extremely challenging. Anyway, great job, Nate. Thank you for bringing that up. It's like, Yeah, thanks for letting us know. This is one of the things we were saying with nerd news is like, let's bring up callers. And, and maybe they'll have news that we forgot to talk about. And that's a good one. Sydney is streaming it. At least she was a week ago, Sydney started streaming Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. I hope that she's enjoying it.

Nate, give us a fictional couple, a great fictional couple. I'm going to go with Zoe and Wash from Firefly. Yeah, good one. I love their interplay. Yeah, yeah, they have a yeah, it's just a real fun relationship. Real good interplay. Thank you. Nate. Good. Good call One more piece of news. That's a great answer, but I don't know if I ever really believed in them being together Why would like a statue?

Wesk warrior woman want to be with like the little jokey pilot guy. I don't get it That's what's that's what love is Jared. It doesn't succumb to your definition of how it all works. I'm just saying, I don't think he could please her in bed. We all know what you're saying, Jared. Yeah, no, I agree. I had the same exact feelings, but you have to kind of like, I don't know.

That's what makes it kind of clever and fun, I feel like. It's like, why would these two ever be together? It's like, because you don't choose. It doesn't always make sense I've just never seen that couple before I've never seen well, I guess I've never also been on a starship before so Yeah, well said one more piece I actually wanted to jump on this before we head into the name of the game which is You reminded me of it Nate, which is avowed the game, which is, uh, uh, you reminded me of it, Nate, which is avowed, uh, avowed new,

uh, video game coming out from obsidian entertainment. And I'm going to stream it next week. That's my plan at least. So, uh, avowed is a new fantasy adventure game from obsidian who did nights of the old Republic too. They did pillars of eternity. Um, okay, great. Yeah, this is their, this is their like first person fantasyperson fantasy adventure game, and I don't know much about it. I specifically have not looked into it because it's supposed to release next Tuesday, and

I'm going to just get it and immediately stream it next Tuesday. On this channel, on Twitch.tv slash The Glass Cannon, noon next Tuesday, keep an eye out for it. I'm looking forward to streaming that. Anyway, Jared, name of the game. Tell me. The name of the game. You said you were playing an RPG.

You want to tell me about. No, no, not an RPG friend. No, sorry. Incorrect. Yes. So with the name of the game, we're just going to tell you about a game we've been playing and I have been playing.

I rarely get the opportunity. I've been playing a board game and it's so funny. You know, my wife got me this board game in like 2022 and I've barely gotten to play it. And I have since played it and the new kind of expanded version of that. And the board game is Dune Imperium, Dune Imperium. And I also got an opportunity to play Dune Uprising.

So I know, you know, what's involved in dune uprising as well Joe have you played dune Imperium? I have I have I've played many games of dune Imperium. It's phenomenal I have not played any expansions or I have not played uprising either. So yeah, I haven't played the Expansion I think is called the rise of X but I have played Dune Uprising which is basically Dune Imperium with a couple little things added like you can finally get sand worms to fight for you in Dune Uprising but what I want to say is that Dune Imperium is the best board game I have played in a long time deep strategy really significant choices that you're making all the time, right? Like, should I go for this Alliance or should I do well in this next combat? Well, this next

combat is not worth a victory point. So do I need that? Like, um, really great choice-making involved, but also incredibly thematic. It really actually does feel like the world of dune and the kind of like intrigue and like secret deals you're making on the side. And that thematic part of a game is super important to me. It's why I prefer usually role playing games because I want to get into story, you know, and for me, the, the dune Imperium, uh, board game tells a story. Like you can go into a combat at the end of a round and, uh, they have way more troops than you, the person you're up against, and then you pull an ambush

card and it feels like you're from an or ambushing someone and then suddenly you win, I just think I just, I'm, I'm blown away by how good it is and I can't wait to play it again. So I know I'm a little late to the, I'm a little late to the game, but I do really love this game and I really just wanted to talk about it. I think it's important to point out.

I mean, yeah, you are late to the game in terms of when it was released, but like a lot of people still might not have tried it or played it and I think it's important to point out. I mean, yeah, you are late to the game in terms of when it was released, but like a lot of people still might not have tried it or played it. And I think it's important for you to to lay out. I've been playing lately. Yeah. To lay out your, you know what you love about it because we all know you love doing you ran part of the dune series we did on the network a few years ago. I want to play more of that dune role playing game. I'm like, well, what I've been deciding lately, because you know I play role playing games off the GCN all the time. Yeah, that's why I thought you were going to talk about role playing games. But yeah.

Yeah, no, no. I mean, I haven't had an opportunity lately to run anything. But I'm thinking about getting back into all my old books that I've only run a little bit and just playing them again. And Dune is one of them. But luckily the Dune Imperium board game scratched that itch for a minute for me. Yeah, and I totally agree with you. I think it's a great game. I think it does a really great job thematically of making you feel... It tells... To me, it does what Star Wars Rebellion does,

except without having to play for six straight hours. That's the other great thing about this game. Yeah. Two to three hours. Right. You can wrap it up in perfect. Yeah. You can wrap it up in two to three hours. I don't know if you ever played star wars rebellion, but no, in fact, I'm not a star wars fan. Something to talk about on a future episode. On a future episode. But I love the indoor though. It's a great, it's a great board game that is so long though.

But what it does is it's sort of reenacts the, the events of a new hope and leading up and into and through a new hope, but it doesn't assume the ending of a new hope. Right? So like, it's kind of like you're playing it again, but the empire could win. Cause they, if they find the rebel base before you have your forces in position, you know, or you don't raise enough awareness. It has that Andor element too, where like you need to send leaders to worlds in order to start building rebellion, uh, factions within empire worlds and

underground and whatever. Is it like a worker placement meets a deck builder? Cause that was another thing I loved about Dune. No, it doesn't have the deck builder element, but it has a worker placement element and it's awesome. Anyway, the point is Dune does a great job of like, it gives you the story in such a way that the Harkonnen, you will play the Harkonnens

and the Harkonnens can just win, right? Like the Harkonnens you will play the Harkonnens and the Harkonnens can just win. You write like the Harkonnens can in this version decide to join with the Fremen or to join with the, uh, Benet Jessert and get done what they want to get done. And so it retells that story in a really interesting way that you had, and it's different every time and there's a great series of different leaders. I think the base game comes with like eight different leaders that you can play and they all have different special abilities, which are every one of them

is so powerful. They're so good at it. I love the signet ring ability. Yeah. You know? Cause you start with that signet ring card and every time you play it, you can use that ability. Love. Yeah. It's just anyway, great game.

Key for me, Key for me was getting that sword master early. So you have an extra worker and getting that seat on the Alliance Red Council early. So you always have an extra bit of money in your pile to purchase. I'm sorry. Influence in your pile to purchase cards. Those are my tips for you that were given to me by someone else and they worked for me. Although Paula Paula still beat me. I played with Paula. Yes. Paula one. That's what I heard. Paula one. Yeah. I played with Paula. Yes. Paula one. That's what I heard. Paula one. Yeah. All right. What's your game? I'll give you one

game before we finish off with with David Lynch's legacy, which is moon rakers. I want to talk about moon rakers. Now I found this out from Sydney and through Sydney's friends at back and packs unplugged and I tried it out there, liked it enough to make it my purchase of the con. I always try to buy like one game at a con when I go. And I didn't get a chance to sit down and play it until after the holidays. So it was just in the last month or so I've gotten to play eight games of it, seven games of it. Wow.

You make a lot of time for board games. Well, what I do is I tend to on weekends where I, I'm free and my sister and my brother-in-law are free. I'll rush down to the Philly area, let my kids play with their cousins all day and we just board game all day. So it's like a marathon for one day and then I, and then I got to leave, but we'll get like two or three games in of one game in a day, you know?

So anyway, I kind of pack it in. We have a great time doing that. And Moonraker's is, are you familiar with Dominion? Did you ever play Dominion? Oh yeah, you mean Quiet Math? Yes. So it's- Yeah, I call it Quiet Math because you quietly do math by yourself while you play.

Right, and it's a deck builder and the designers of Moonraker said the one issue that we have with Dominion is that you're not doing anything with anybody. Like you just sit there by yourself doing math and adding cards to your deck. Now, I love Dominion, but yes, it is a very isolating kind of experience. It is not a party game by any stretch. Moonraker takes that concept and what it does is you each play space pirates essentially who are privateers for lack of a better term. You are taking on contracts and trying to execute those contracts to success. And in the early part of the game, it's a deck builder.

You have your starting deck. You can add crew that do special things the early part of the game, it's a deck builder. You have your starting deck. You can add crew that do special things to your deck throughout the game. You can add parts to your ship that add cards to your deck. And the deck is actually very simplified. So as I'm saying this, it's might sound complicated. It is not. Yeah. What you, what you end up doing is there's a list of contracts, like a contracts board that are available that get you money or victory points.

And then the main part of the game is early on, you can't complete these contracts with what's in your hands. So you have to team up. So basically you say, I want to do this contract. Does anybody want to go out on this contract with me? And you can take any number of allies. And before you go on the contract, you negotiate however you want a split of the proceeds.

So somebody could say, all right, you take the victory point, but I want all the credits or somebody could be like, I need a ship part. So I want the ship part from this one and you can take the credits, whatever. And you negotiate it before and then everybody plays their hand and you see if you can beat the mission as it's laid out and you have to have a certain amount of cards hit in a certain order. And then by the end of the game, you don't want to partner with people that are about to cross the threshold and win. And so you better have built a deck where you can do these contracts alone by the end. It's a blast, dude. And you play it. It's one hour to two max.

Beautiful. Yeah, it's one hour to two max and yeah it really really hard time job I need a game you can keep your twilight imperium okay that sounds really fun I love that there's a negotiation yeah aspect the negotiation is really fun I got worried about it for a bit because I was like is this going to be like kind of a diplomacy kind of game like a backstabby kind of game? And it's not like by the rules. Once you agree to the negotiation, that's it. If you succeed at the contract, everybody gets what they get. You can't back out on people. The one thing you can do to a contract, people can just say no. Oh yeah. People like somebody can say like, I'm looking for an ally to go out on this contract. You can look at your hand and you can have one of the best lineups that you've pulled for you to

maybe execute one by yourself in the next turn. So you can just be like, no, because if you do go out, it uses your hand, even if you don't use your whole hand, you have to discard your whole hand. So like you, you want to be picky about when you're executing these things. So like you, you want to be picky about when you're executing these things. And, and, I forget, there was, there was one other thing I was going to add. Yeah. Anyway, it's, it's great. And it has, now it has a bunch of expansions and new details. I know there's one expansion where like you, they're the universe or galaxy is split into quadrants. It's simplified, but you can only do contracts if you're in the same quadrant,

and you can only take certain contracts from certain quadrants with certain factions. So it does complicate things a little bit more if you're looking for more stuff. Oh, yeah, the thing I was going to say is you have to go out, you have to keep the negotiations even if you say so, but there is one, you have secret missions that help you get secret victory points that people wouldn't see so that adds a fun element and one of the secret missions is deliberately fail a mission. So like you can go on there's only one card so it doesn't happen a lot but when it does and it happens against you you're like and that person gets a victory point for screwing over your mission. So anyway I love it and it sounds super thematic and that's cool. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. It's great.

All right. That's the name of the game. That's the name of the game. Well, we'll do it more when we have more new games we've played to talk about. Next time I'll bring an RPG. I'm playing some new ones coming up here. So. Awesome.

Yeah. We're going to do some RPG talk next week actually. All right. So let's end it with our final part of our Lynch tribute. We've been doing a tribute to the dearly departed genius director, David Lynch, all month. This is the final part. And this time we wanted to just talk a little bit about David Lynch's legacy.

And the way I'd like to get into that is by letting everybody know that David Lynch's masterclass, you know, the masterclass series of sort of instructional videos featuring famous, legendary figures has one from David Lynch on creativity and cinema. It is now free on YouTube in honor of his passing. I checked it out and what I really think is the most incredible thing about David Lynch's legacy, other than the films, which are all time amazing, is how much he had to say about creativity and how creativity works

and how to put yourself in the mindset for creativity. And I know that a lot of the nation, the people that tune into this show, they have at least a creative sideline, you know, or they enjoy, they enjoy consuming the creativity of others because they enjoy these like fantastical worlds and these novels and shows and games, um, that we're all obsessed with. So I think that this masterclass has a lot to say to anybody that's listening to this show and it certainly really, um, really gave me a lot to think about with my writing.

Did you get a chance to look at a little bit of that masterclass? Joe? I did. I did. I started, it's three hours long. I started it. I didn't finish it either. I did. I did. I started it's three hours long. I started it. I started it and I was like, I'm really excited to watch this eight or nine minutes in there was already so much information.

I was like, how does he do this for three hours? And what you realize is like, it does a great job of vacillating between general creative philosophies and very specific details of working with actors on set or how you act on set or how you get the most out of a performer or things that a film director would want to know or things that a writer would want to know. Anyway, I'll talk about some of the things that I really liked, but I kind of skipped through a lot of it, especially I skipped the parts about like how to act on set with actors. You know, I don't really care about that.

I didn't even get there because I was kind of watching it in order and I, I didn't, you know, I did like 45 minutes, you know, but I'm excited to finish it. I skipped around. So I'll just talk about some highlights. So yeah, but let's go ahead. Now you go ahead. I skipped around. So I'll just talk about some highlights. So yeah, but let's bounce back and forth. Yeah, please go ahead.

No, you go ahead. Okay, well, right out of the gate, this is something that really spoke to me. And also I should say, let's put this in the framework of, I considered him to be the devil, right? Like that's where this all began. Right. I saw Mulholland Drive and said,

whoever made that movie is an evil person. And to see him give this masterclass and how sweet he seems and how grounded and how much he talks about how hard it is and how, how much you fail at everything you do creatively, but then some, you have to, but then one thing will click, you know, like that kind of stuff. It was really nice. And I really enjoyed it. I highly recommend it.

So he kicks off by saying, the idea is, is everything. The idea, when you have an idea, he's like, you, you have to culture, you have to put yourself in a position to have an idea. And then you have to recognize when you've had an idea. And even if it's just a fragment of an idea, one small thing, you can build everything around one single idea. And I felt very, uh, I don't know, validated by that in a way about my creative process, which I'll say focuses largely on getting the trunk.

That was really the project where I was, I was hosting it, right? I was the game master, everything else we do on the network. I'm a player and I have my own ideas that I bring to my own characters. But when you're talking about the way Lynch sort of directed a story as a GM, you're sort of, you're sort of overseeing the whole story. And while you're giving players agency, you have to make sure that the mood is right, that the tone is right. And he talked a lot about that when you have an idea fitting in the mood and right, that the tone is right. And he talked

a lot about that when you have an idea fitting in the mood and the tone. But anyway, I get ahead of myself. All I'm saying is, I found habits that help me have ideas. For me, it's I usually have to be moving. I can't be sitting and looking at a screen and typing. I usually have to be outside either running or walking or, or driving or riding a bike, right? Any of those things will trigger my, get my brain moving. And then a lot of times for me, it's music. If I'm listening to music, it'll help me put me in a zone where I'm thinking about the music and I'm picturing things happen while this song is playing.

And it helps me have ideas. And the thing that he said that really jumped out was like, when you know you have it, you know you have it. Like I'll be walking and I'll just think like, the first time I thought of no major spoilers, but the first time I thought of the car chase that happened in getting the trunk, it was like, it just sparked.

And I was like, I have an idea of how to run a car chase in an RPG that will be really fun. You know, the first time have an idea of how to run a car chase in an RPG that would be really fun. You know, the first time that I thought of how to bring Blades in the Dark mechanics into a Delta Green game, I hadn't thought of it before. And then all of a sudden it was there. And he describes it like that. Like it comes out of nowhere. And his big analogy is fishing. He's like, fishing requires patience and a lot of nothing. And then all of a sudden, bam, like you have something. And that is exactly how I felt. It's like, I had a

lot of ideas that don't work. McDermott and I would talk a lot on Delta Green about things we threw out there that nothing that ever came to fruition. But every once in a while, one of us would say something and it was like, that's it. And you just, you know, when you know, anyway, he explained how that process works for him and I thought it was amazing to listen to him to watch. No, I love that. You know, he talks about how daydreaming or kind of goofing off or being still alone with

yourself is kind of how you let those ideas sort of come to the surface, how you kind of coax them to the surface. And I love one of the things he said that I thought was incredible is that he's forgotten three incredible ideas in his life. Yeah. He knows that he forgot three incredible ideas. Yeah. I can tell you, I was gonna tell you as a standup, I, I, I have thought of incredible jokes and then been in the middle of a conversation or in the middle of doing something. And then an hour later, I go, wait, what was that joke? And it's gone. So you have got to write things down. I also have had great ideas that I have forgotten. I know I have. I know a

few at least that I have had that I've forgotten. And yeah, he's adamant. He's like, the second you have that idea, you have to write it down because you will forget. Speaking of writing, if I could continue on, he said, I've talked a lot to Matthew Cabra casa about writing, both on air and counterfeiter and off air. I'm fascinated by the process., and this is a direct quote from a Lynch's masterclass, I never considered myself a writer. And that's how, me too, I've never considered myself a writer. He doesn't consider himself a writer either. And I found that really fascinating and fun to think about.

Like, well, if he doesn't think he's a writer and he wrote these great movies, like maybe I could do something like that, right? It makes you feel like it's possible because he goes into detail about things that are almost exactly what Matthew has said to me about his process, which is like, revision is everything. Like, don't stop yourself when you're creating, when you're writing, don't stop yourself when you're creating, when you're writing, don't put on the brakes and analyze how good or not good it is. Just keep going until the well is empty

and then walk away from it. And then go back and read everything. And then when you have more of a whole picture of the whole, you can see in a given moment or in a given scene, oh, this character is talking too much or this thing is not, does not end up being as interesting. So let's just cut it out. Like revision is such an important part of the creative process. And that's, I know that's the way Matthew works.

He writes a great deal of stuff that never sees the light of day that he ends up hating later, but that's so that he can find the good stuff. Absolutely. Absolutely. Jordan Peele said when he's writing the first draft of something, he's just shoveling sand into a sandbox so he can make castles later is what he said. Yeah. But that's truly true of any creative project. don't get down on yourself when you're a quarter of the way in and you're like, this looks like shit. Like don't look at it. Just keep going until you're done and then figure out how to fix it. Yeah.

He said, uh, I loved this part. He said, I would sit outside at night. Did you get to this part? He's like, I'd sit outside at night. Cause he smokes a lot of cigarettes, smoked a lot of cigarettes and his wife wouldn't let him in the house, smoke in the house. He said, so I'd sit outside at night with a yellow notepad, a pen, cigarettes, and a bottle of red wine.

He's like, and eventually the pen just starts going. And he's like, probably 90% of what I wrote is worthless, horrible stuff. He used that exact quote, worthless, horrible stuff. He used that exact quote, worthless, horrible stuff. He's like, but once in a while you hit a gold vein, you know, so you have to be, you have to do it that much so that you occasionally hit a gold vein. I want to bring you a David Lynch quote. It's not from the masterclass.

I just looked up some quotes and I really love this one. It says, I don't know why people expect art to make sense. They accept the fact that life doesn't make sense. Yeah. So his movies, like, you know, sometimes we were like, what did that mean? And it's kind of like, why does it have to make sense? You know, and I apply that to role playing

games, you know, because sometimes your players will play a mystery or something and they won't get all the answers or they'll play a horror game and they won't know exactly what the monster was or where it was coming from. And at the end of the session, they'll be like, so what was happening there? And I feel like a lot of game masters then go, well, actually what my plot was. And then they tell them everything. I'm a big proponent of not doing that. Yeah. If people don't get all the answers, be like, I don't know.

What do you guys think? Yeah. That's part of the beauty of art. And I think running role-playing games is art is, you know, that, uh, you don't have to have all the answers. You just have to make all the answers. You just have to make people feel something, maybe. He said something about like the traditional structure of films and stories, beginning, middle and end. And I'm not going to get this exactly right. So I encourage you to check it out. But he says you pretty, you have the only

thing you really have to have is a beginning, right? Like it has to start with something. Uh, and he was like, but you don't, you don't really have to have an ending in cl- in, in fact, he says, and he uses Chinatown as an example. He said that his favorite endings are endings where the, the audience, where the viewer, the watcher still has room to dream. Right. Where it opens up this mystery of this place. And the, and this is a quote, the film continues even though it's over. And I think that is something that we've done with a lot of our stuff on the Glass Cannon is the endings. We've only ended a few things, but we try to leave them in such a way that there's still

questions. You know, that there's still story out there that you can imagine being told of those characters. And I, yeah, and him pointing out Chinatown, you know, the final line, forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown, and he drives off. It's like that with one line, there's so much potential and possibility for more stories to occur in this place that you could just let the viewer imagine. I think those kind of endings, you have to be dealing with a really deep story. He talks about also depth, you know what I mean?

Like the surface or the shallow ideas, and you can make a movie out of those, but if you go deep, you get these deeper ideas, and those are the kind of things that are so robust and complex and labyrinthine or whatever, that when the movie ends, there's still so much to think about and imagine. I have one more thing to say on it, which is, and this really jumped out to me. When we started Giant Slayer, there, the thing that we looked back, right? We struggled with

Gatewalkers for a while and we were trying to identify why are we struggling? And we looked back at Giant Slayer and said like, what worked so well there? Why did that work so well? Well, you know, it's not really a black and white issue. It's not really a one-to-one sort of thing. But one thing we noticed was how much we loved, Giant Slayer kicks off with a murder mystery.

And that really got you, the inciting event happened so quickly and got you into the story and you had a purpose so fast that it really engaged everyone deeply. This is how most Delta green operations begin is you are investigators, you are sent to you know, investigate something and similarly Call of Cthulhu, which Troy has fallen in love with and which I thoroughly enjoy playing. I personally prefer a more modern setting than the traditional Cthulhu setting. But in either case,

it's always set around a mystery, right? You're trying to solve a mystery. And obviously, this is a recurring theme in Lynch's films. And I never thought about putting all of this together, but he said something that just was like such a light bulb to me, which he said, detective stories are so great because they relate to what life is for so many people. Like you don't have to be a federal agent or a police officer or a journalist to be fascinated with the concept of solving a mystery. And he says, the reason that exists so deeply within all of us is because we all at one time or another have tried to decipher, are continually trying to decipher mysteries.

Who we are, why we're here. What is our purpose? What do I wanna do with my life? Exactly, he's like, this is a basic human experience and detective stories are maybe the most basic human experience in cinema form is the way that he put it. So anyway, I wrote that down too. I wrote that down too. Yes, I did. I thought that that was, and maybe that's an incredible place to end. Yeah. Yeah. We have gone long here, but I knew we've got a lot long. I was excited at how many callers we took on the video game stuff, but I did want to give David

Lynch's due. We did a lot of talking about his work over the last month and it's great to sign off. Thank you, David Lynch. When another really big person or topic comes along, maybe we'll do another month long series, but I really enjoyed this. This has been great. I agree. And I, this is something that I had just put aside after Mulholland Drive and was like not interested. And I'm so glad that I delved back in that I learned a lot watching this masterpiece. Oh, and by the way, I mean, they put whole scenes from Blue Velvet in there and he talked about the process and I was just like, I know that scene, right? So like, otherwise I wouldn't have known.

So this has been a great experience for me. And it's just another testament to why I'm excited about Glass Cannon Radio and all I'm gonna learn, you know? Naish, what are we gonna get Joe into next? Let's figure it out. Let's figure it out. All right, that's gonna wrap her up. Thanks everybody. That's our show.

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