The Golden Hour - Dissecting the Files | The Golden Hour #171 w/Brendan Schaub, Erik Griffin & Chris D'Elia

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

The guys discuss Nancy Guthrie's kidnapping and ransom investigation, Erik watching the Super Bowl with Jeff Dye and having to cook vegetarian food for his veggie buds, Michael Jackson's incomprehensible fame, conspiracy theories, new updates on the Epstein files, director Ryan Murphy's hit shows, watching movies with hot guys vs hot girls and how their girls feel about it, celebrity men that their wives get a pass on, Amanda Seyfriend's insane talent, renting vs buying movies, Sam Elliot being the same age in every movie forever and much more! Get this episode AD FREE + 2 PATREON ONLY episodes/month only at https://patreon.com/thegoldenhourpodcastQuince - Refresh your winter wardrobe with Quince. . Go to https://quince.com/golden for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That's https://quince.com/golden . Free shipping and 365-day returns. https://quince.com/goldenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When you get aggressive, did your guys' wife go, you're not on a podcast, don't talk to us like that. You're not on a podcast. I'm like, this is how I talk. I'm aggressive human being. That's how I talk. You know what's funny. That's hilarious.

If we were on the podcast, you'd be getting clown. Do you want me to do the podcast? You quit the podcast. Yeah. I wish we just had a mic that went like this. Oh, oh, babe, ha. Welcome to the podcast, my wife. Who thinks I'm yelling.

Dude. That's hilarious. with friends that shout sometimes we don't know what we're talking about but that won't stop us nothing can stop us I show you use the love just re- go back into my truck so that's fucking great oh no I just knocked out my right it just knocked out my passenger side tail light oh still he hits me and goes he hits me I get out I go what the fuck man and he goes dude you look familiar I'm like, oh, that sucks.

Yes, that's that moment. That's not the moment. You know what I mean? I don't care who it is. No, I was just like, you know what I mean? I'm still going to be like, you know, hey man. What happened? I just, I went, yeah.

Somebody hit his car. Oh, no. They backed up in my truck. They just fucked up the right passenger rear tail light. But I'm selling Chris, I get out of the car. I go, what the fuck, man? He goes, dude, you look familiar. I went, yeah, I don't know, man.

He goes, man, what do you want to do, man? I don't want to lose my job. He goes, I'll just go. I'll figure it out. I can go, dude. You don't want. That's Brandon. He says, he didn't have to do that.

I don't want to lose his job. Yeah, he got you. Yeah, because it was like, you could tell he was working. It was for a company. He's driving the truck. Oh, got it. And he was like in his 20. You could tell.

He was like, oh, fuck, man. I should just beat him up, dude. You got to go, okay. On site. He goes like this, I get a free gut punch. Oh, dude. I'm not going to tell anyone, you got to give me a gut punch.

I'm going to gut punch you. One, I'll do it. But right before he does it, he goes, and by the way, you do know me, I used to fight the UFC. You just say it just like that. And after I gut punch you, you're going to recognize me. Yes.

Yeah. For no reason that guy's there. you know the Michael West's face comes and he goes Are you ready? I mean just put a cherry on top of the day But it could be worse though

Glass half full It could be way weird At least it wasn't like horrible damage I was like I can replace that taillight It'll be 300 fucking bucks Whatever I mean that's that's That's cheap for getting hit

Well you don't know until they tell you Yeah but he'll do it You know what's weird about cars? Oh, no, I already got one. I'm saying something like that will happen. And then they'll say like, actually you split your something to rather with the something thing that got disconnected from the what you call it, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, they'll take advantage of you. Yeah. You guys been following. My stupid car. You guys been following that Nancy Guthrie shit? Not really a little bit. Yeah. A little bit.

Oh, I can't get enough of it. They just released. It's crazy. Eric, did you see they released video? Have you seen the video of the suspect? Yeah, man. Yeah, it's crazy. No, but the thing is like, that chick's like,

isn't she like 107 years old? She's 84. The mom? The mom's 84. Yeah, she's 84. What do you mean? That's, I have to do it. Look, she's, they kidnapped.

You know, your mom's 84. Well, yeah, but she's a mom to a celebrity. She's a mom to a celebrity. That's why they're doing it. Yeah, what do you? What's the, keep going with the sentence and the sentiment? I mean, you mean her life's over anyway? Oh, wow.

You know what? I didn't want to say it. Eric's kind of right. If you're going to kidnap, probably go for a younger one. No, no, no,

what I'm saying is like, that's when you can start negotiating the price. That's hilarious. They're asking for $6 million in Bitcoin or something. She's 84. You're like, $6 million?

I love her, but she's also on, she's on heart medication. I'm with Eric. She's on heart medication. I'm like, six mil. Man,

she like another, maybe another, two years. She might have another two years. That's a really funny bit. that is funny she has another two years max bubba six mil how about i give you six do we call it even i know it's just tough man no it's horrible that is just a horrible this is the thing that's tripping me out is like

all this kind of stuff is just happening in plain sight now well no i know it's weird so you you you kidnap a high profile person and then it just everyone knows about it this is like a movie man remember literally what i said on my podcast but here's here's what's even scary is people go missing, kidnapped every single day. Right. I know. You want to talk about privileged? You want to talk about privileged? You have the FBI at your house. They're searching fucking night and day. If she wasn't famous, they ain't doing all this. There's kids that get kidnapped every day. Yeah, yeah. Privilege.

If they get her back with all her fingers. Yeah. Oh, she's dad. Oh, no, Bubba. She's dead. She's dead. She's dead. Well, did you see what the guy to him? Is he said? What do you say? He said that. No, that guy's a cuck, but what do you say? No, no, no, but they said there were two. deadlines. And the more serious deadline was maybe yes today. Oh no, yesterday.

You know yesterday at 6 o'clock, right? Yeah. Yeah. So she could be at this point. Not around anymore. But there was another deadline to let them know this is serious. And that was like on, you know,

Friday or something. I think it's all, I think it's all bullshit. I think all that's just bullshit. I think it's a discussion. Well, I mean, very well, maybe. Because they found her blood at the house. You know what I'm saying?

And she's 84. I didn't know that. I mean, you're fucking, you know, you bruised on. They're fucked. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I just, I mean, we have a. No, it's horrible.

There's a very strict policy in the United States. And I totally get it. You don't negotiate with terrorists because then it opens up for everybody. I don't, but, but that's a. Yeah. The logic still applies. Oh, I get it. But you only have one mom.

It's not like, oh, they killed her. It's like, okay, well. I told you I don't negotiate so you ain't getting my dad either huh rules are rules so they do then what yeah I'm I'm gonna pay it you're gonna pay it no you're only oh I mean if there maybe if there's I don't know I don't know if you pay it this so scary I don't I don't I don't know if you'd pay it well me oh you would because if someone let's say someone to heaven forbid I don't like talking like this let's say somebody took one of your children use

a fix let's let's let's say someone a friend we don't let's say they took one of Chin's kids he doesn't have you don't have a girl for fuck's sake so let's say they take one of Chin's children and i guarantee you if they're like i need a million dollars you're paying that million you're not going to be like well i don't know all yeah but what if chin comes to us and he's like guys i need a million dollars can you help me i go i don't negotiate with turrets chin you know the rule in america chin you i mean it'd be on american to pay this I totally feel for you. You know what?

Chris, a cold motherfucker. And I get it. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I, I, I, I, I, yeah, I, I, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'd say, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm willing to help out, though. I think we should start a go fundy. If that helps, I'll put that together.

No, I'm willing to help out with a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that. I validate your feelings. Well, that's what they should really do. They should just start a go fund me. You guys care about this lady? I mean, anybody could do that. Well, that's the other thing. It's like, I don't.

She's rich, though. I mean, she's a little older. She's rich. Yeah, except for people think that, like, she may not have $6 million. People think that people have $6 million. That's a lot of money. Jay, look up her. Wait, how about this?

In Big Coing? Right, right. Savannah. She's been on whatever it is. Good Morning America. For a long time. And she's a little bit older. 40 years.

She's 54. You better sell that house? You better sell that house? No, I understand that. This is terrible, but they can't do it. She makes $8 million a year. Oh, she makes $8 million a year, dude. She's, she wants.

Yeah. They just, she was working forever, yeah. They just can't do it. What? They can't do this. What? No, they have to. Who's they?

Yeah, they do. Eric, they have to. They have to. They have to. They have to, Bub, Brendan. There's other. There's stuff going on behind the scenes. The fact that she even, listen,

Eric, I think all this is fake. I think all this is a distraction. I think all that's fake. What? What's all fake? The kidnapping. She's sitting someplace with Epstein? Don't give me started on that.

Wherever they're keeping Epstein, she's there with her. No, no, but I do think, I think that's a bit of a distraction because also the FBI, they've had no, they haven't seen any of the negotiation tactics. They can't track the number. They have no reculation of any of the conversations.

It's only coming from her family. And they can't trace any of it. And they can't even communicate back and forth with them. So what's fake are you saying? The kidnapping is fake. So there's no kidnapping. No, no. No, no.

Somebody got kidnapped. It's an inside job. It's a family member. It's somebody who knows the family. And it went awry. And now they're like, man, we don't want to get back to us. Let's pretend we're going to do a ransom. There's no ransom.

She's dead. Wow. It'd be like if Matt kidnaps your dad. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. Yeah, and you're like, we don't want to make this look obvious. Dude, we got to do something. It leads back to us.

Well, I hope they all go to jail. They all need to go to jail. That's fine. Now, just a quick question, though, you, my wife? Because I had to ask you that three times before you answered it. Kristen? Fine. But I just, because you look like Brendan Shaw.

I know Kristen watches the podcast. The views of Chris do not represent the views of Brendan and Eric. It's fine. I'll be like. Except for when you call me back, which I don't appreciate. That's fine. What I'm just saying is Kristen, because. What did you ask three times?

No, no, no. I know. You still haven't answered if you're Kristen either. But why did I have to ask it three times? And because there's what Kristen does. I'll be like, hey, what time is the thing? and she'll be like, it's a party. Ah, right.

And I don't understand what she thinks I'm saying. I'm only saying what I'm saying. You don't have to decode it and find out what I'm actually asking. It's a party. Yes. I bet you this happens too. She goes, it's a party. You go, what, what time is the thing?

And then it turns into why are you yelling at me? Yes, of course. Why are you yelling at me? You know what I was doing? I was taking us on a ride, right? Let's take on a voyage. It's a podcast. You want to jump off early.

I went, no, the ride's not done. We're going to get there. You triggered him. And that's fine. I get it because this is a podcast and we got time. And there was a goal at the end of that ride. And it was a fun ride. There was gold at the end of the ride.

And now you're educated on kidnapping. Checking if Kristen. That's all. But you're not. Now, this is the thing that gets me. That's the rabbit. That's the rab. hole it goes down.

Uh-huh. So it's like, hey, what time's that thing? Yeah. It's a party. Right, right, right. And then I don't understand why they don't understand. The natural reaction to that would be, what are you talking about? Well, the natural reaction, honestly, should be putting your hand through a wall.

That should be acceptable. But, but, but, but, what do you, what do you mean? Oh, just a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. What do, what do you mean is me tampering that down. excessively. You're welcome. Okay? So, so, so, so you're still in trouble though. Yeah. So, yeah.

Yeah. And then I get just all the time. She's like, why are you yelling? Yeah. And I'm like, I'm, oh my God. I'm, because you get brain stumped because you're like, I'm not, okay. I'm not yelling at you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You ask me, I asked what the time was and you said this thing. You know, it's just like, well, you. you know, oh my God. But when you get aggressive, when you get aggressive, when you get aggressive, did your guys' wife go, you're not on a podcast, don't talk to us like that. You're not on a podcast. I'm like, this is how I talk, bitch.

This is how I talk. I'm aggressive human being. That's how I talk. That's funny. You're not on a podcast. You know what's funny? Oh, that's hilarious. If we were on a podcast,

you'd be getting clown. Do you want me to do the podcast? You quit the podcast. Yes. Yeah. I wish we just had a mic that went like this. Oh, oh, babe,

welcome to the podcast, my wife, who thinks I'm yelling! Dude, that's hilarious. You should just, like, you know how the predator has,

the predator has that gun? You have a podcast, Mike? Oh, welcome to the marriage podcast. That's hilarious, dude. Oh,

man. I'm telling you, oh, okay. That's so funny. They're just crazy. You guys, no, There's nothing more relatable than that.

There's nothing more relatable than that. If you married, it is what it is. You know what? We love our wives. I know. Let me, let's do this now. Because here's the thing.

It's so annoying. I, you know what? She saved my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this woman. She's amazing. She's beautiful and she's fantastic.

And so, but that's not funny. So I'm up here doing what's funny. People are like, oh man always complaining shut the, are you married motherfucker? Yeah, yeah.

Do you have a podcast? Yeah, yeah. She's a beautiful. She's an angel. Yeah, not all of us can make cute videos taking each other's socks off like this motherfucker over here. That's good.

Good content. I enjoy it. That was so adorable. I do like it. But you know what? That's actually a great example of restraint. So here's Brendan with its little wife. She's like, you know, five, eight or whatever.

And he's like, like ah, it's cute, you think you can get my socks off. It would be like in that moment, if she went, stop being so aggressive. Oh, no. That's hilarious. You know what I mean? Then he'd be like, oh, am I being aggressive?

Let me show you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You fucking suplexes her. Yeah, arm bar. But I told her, she needs to record it because she's coming and she's like, babe, we got to film something. Like, I'm not doing it. She's like, did it take 10 seconds, please?

I'm like, what is it? She goes, we're going to try and get each other's socks. I went, well, that's dumb because you could never get my sock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's like, we'll try it. I'm like, all right, fuck it. Turn the camera on.

I know what it's like, but that's, like, oh, you should get you with the competitive shit. But that's the example of like, like, really understanding the levels. I mean, I think this is like universal thing. It's a universal thing. And I'm starting to realize that when a woman says you're yelling, she's just, it's like she's speaking Japanese. And the translation for that is just, you're being a little.

It's too much. Yeah. you, but whatever, you know, but we take everything like, we take everything very literal and logically. It's hilarious. Yeah, but we're also, but all, both the, all three of us also when we're trying to make a point, get a little louder. It's just what we do. Yeah.

It's what we do for a living. And then my wife literally, her trigger word is, this isn't a podcast. She said last night at dinner. Oh, no. Because I called my father-in-law, Bubba. I went, Bubba, you're off on this. She goes, you're not on a podcast. You know what you need to start doing?

You need to start bringing it out the mic. Oh, let's do a podcast right now so you can show you the difference between. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Call us on Zoom. Yeah, yeah. They just get us on.

Oh, my God. It's so funny. Beep, beep. He just holds. Yeah. Boop. There's Chris. There's Eric.

Now you're on a podcast. Brought you by Draft Kings. Yeah, yeah. Chin wake up. That's so funny. Before I argue with you, I have to read an ad. The Super Bowl just back. Chin wake up.

I'm sorry I didn't. But I'll go, baby, beep, beep. There's Chris, there's Eric Chin wake up, but hold your thought for about 30 minutes because Chin takes forever to get things ready. Yeah. Chin, sorry about not giving you money for your daughter. Check out. Check out Brendan, taking this moment.

Sorry. Taking this passive, aggressively taking a shot at Chin. No, it just takes a while to get rolling. No, no, no, I get it. Yeah. No, yeah. No, he's right. Chin, so sorry.

Cut the chin right now. He's like, too sorry, Chin. I moved here. For this? No, but I'll be in, go to chrysley.com. I'll be in, you know, a bunch of different places. I got Canada this weekend. Australia's coming up.

I got Denver, St. Louis. Down there, I got Vancouver, Kalona, BC, Austin. Oh, yeah, Austin. Got to figure that out, Tacoma. I'll be in Bakersfield. Christmas, February 20th, I'll be in Bakersfield. And then the next week I'll be on the distance important cruise. And then after that, I'll be on in New Jersey and D.C. with Matt Rife.

And then I'll be some other places on my own. Sawyergryffin.com. Please don't go to the website. But I was at this. You know, I was going to maybe be late. I said I might be late. Yeah. Why?

I set it up weeks ago because I had a doctor's appointment because I needed to, I have this skin tag that's on my waistline. That's so annoying because it's on my waistline. Right. I was like, I'm going to go get it removed. They said 10.30. I was like, okay, I could probably make it. And I did it. And I actually love going and doing that.

Is that weird? I love going. Yeah. And doing that. And I think that maybe what it might be is like, is that, but I guess it's, well, it's not cosmetic because it was annoying me. That's still a little cosmetic. Well, a little bit, but.

I had something on my ear right here one time. But it was thing, it was like, it kept, I felt something, and then I would like, but that's so annoying. It turns out it was like a little cyst. But that's not cosmetic then. Yeah, I know. What was your thing, Chris? Just a tag, you know, a tag that I got cut off.

Like at my waistline. And it was, and so I got it off. And, oh, he was like, oh, just take off your shirt. I took off my shirt and he goes, whoa, you've been working out? I go, oh, fuck yeah, dude. Oh, no. Yes, I have. Oh, wow.

Oh, no. What a doctor's business. I go, I'm really glad I made this appointment, man. You do a couple of push-ups. No, but I got it off and I liked it. Was the tag bothering you? Was it like a long tit? What are we talking about here?

No, but it was, the thing was the location. Like, have you ever had one where it's in the spot where either you keep rubbing it or, you know, I had one? No, I've never had one. Oh, dude. I had one. right above, right above my ass crack. And every time I wiped, I would like scratch it or something. I'm like, dude, I got to get rid of this because shit's going to get in there.

Yeah, then it's just like a little. Sorry about this Eric's story. Sorry about this Eric's story. Yeah, this is even more. This was this was 20 years ago. And I went to this guy, I went to the guy, the same guy. I've been seen him forever. And, you worked out.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I was like, hey, I got this thing in my ass crack. And he'll never forget this. And he's like, all right, turn around and take your pants down. I took my pants down. And he said, oh, yeah, right there in the C of the A. This is an older man. Right there in the C of the A.

I'll get it. Dude, I'll get it. Then he grabbed Chris's ass and went like this. Ew. Well, he nodded, who knows. But Chris nodded off. do you live Chris do you live there

a nuclear plant why are you having so many fucking tags grow out of your body I always had that shit yeah well that's not so many I mean

that ain't normal well it is according to the fucking dermatologist so I'll go with that well yeah but they keep getting your money

says well they keep getting your money Bubba oh this is normal just come back no no no no but he's not saying there's anything wrong with it

he's like there's nothing wrong with it you want me to take it off I was like sure Wow, look at this. Skin tags are very common and considered. Why does one look like a dick? These are,

this is not how it looked, by the way. That's disgusting. Mine was cool. It had like a spoiler on it. It has a website. Click it, click it. It has Bluetooth. But, but, yeah.

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You're welcome. I didn't get to see the fights. How was the fights on Saturday? Nah. Not great. No. No, no. Not the fucking Super Bowl, bro.

Oh, the Super Bowl was terrible. That Super Bowl was weak as fuck. Yeah. The UFC was better than the Super Bowl. That's good for Seattle, though. I was glad for Sam Darnel. I thought that's a great story. You've been on five teams.

You've been discarded. The last year's team, like, you won 14 games because you didn't win the last two. They just were like, ah, we're going to go where our rookie. Is Sam Darnal Black? No. Okay. He's a USC boy. Oh, oh, that's UFC.

He's a UFC. USC. Oh, okay. Yeah, somebody was saying on the group text, they were like, I actually was shocked when I saw Sam Darnold was white because I thought it was Sam D. Arnold. How funny is that? But it's good for him, man.

It's a good story. You know what I mean? Good story. Cool. And it's like, you know what I was saying before I found this out? I was like, if he wins the Super Bowl, I would fire the coach of Minnesota and the GM. But they actually fired the, they actually fired the. GM last week.

And I was like, yeah, you fire this guy. It's like this guy won you 14. So in the last two years, he's won 25 games. It's like a great story. He wasn't shit before that, though. That's the issue. Who was not shit? Well, he got drafted by the Jets.

And nobody's good when you get drafted by the Jets. Facts. Then he went to, then he went to Carolina, which was like in shambles too. And then I think what resurrected his career is going to San Francisco and being, you know, with Shanahan. But then, like, they gave the job to fucking Purdy. And then he's like, now he ends up, you know, he goes to Minnesota, has this great season.

And then they get rid of him too. And now he's just winning the Super Bowl. And good for him because I would have been at that podium like, what up, Minnesota? You know what I mean? I would have been really talking smack. Yeah, well, we know that. That's why you're a comedian and not a quarterback. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah. I would love to be a quarterback. Oh, bro. Sometimes I'm like. sometimes I actually get disappointed because I'm like, fuck man. I know.

I can't be a politician and say these kinds of things. Oh my God, right? Yeah, but then you realize I'd be great at a press conference. But then you realize the reason why you are who you are and do comedy is because you can't, you don't do that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be, I know. It would be, oh, I being a politician. Even when I'm gaming, these people can't handle. No, I know, but no, I understand. But, but, but a politician to be in like,

and now, So here's what happened. You just interrupted to do like that kind of thing. Bro, are you kidding me? If a guy had that personality, he'd be president. But you just can't. Hey, hey, guess what? He's pretty close.

Yeah, Trump's pretty close. No, I get it. What he called the case in point then? Would he called the dude fat? I remember that one debate. Or he called her fat and he called his wife a pig with that chubby lady on the airplane. He's all this pig in the back here won't stop talking.

I just wish Donald Trump was. He was better at it. But yes. He could be better at it. Or you just be who you are. You're on your plane. Imagine you're on your plane. Yeah.

Somebody's interrupting you on your plane. You're on a plane? That's a fucking. Oops. You would have that. Why are we 30,000 feet in the air right now? Is it? Because of you.

You hear from the other room. Stop yelling. So crazy. I don't know. Yeah, no. Did you watch a Super Bowl with Jeff die, Eric? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeff came over.

This is how it happened, man. I was just trying to have a simple little thing, you know? So I invited Vinnie Fastline, you know? I said, Vinny, come over? You want to come over? And he's like, all right. Then he says, hey, can I bring Enrique and his brother? You know, the twins.

Yeah. I go, okay, fine. And then Enrique hates me up. Hey, man. Can Jeff Die come? Oh, they think it's a party. Yeah, I go, okay. Well, you, what you should have done is said it's, well, yeah, did you tell, you must have, I mean, that's not your fault.

Yeah, I just said, okay. It's not a part. You know, at some point you're going to be like, it's not a party, but I guess it is now. Yeah. So who else was there? Did that? Yeah, yeah. And then I had my other friend, my other buddy came.

And then I invited Ian, I said, I invited Ian and Dean Delray thinking they were going to say no, because it was mourning of. Oh, wow. And I said to Ian, I said, you probably got plans, but if you want to come by. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Then he goes, yeah, I'm coming by. And then he says, can somebody else come? That person didn't come.

Oh, yeah. And then Ian comes and he's like, you know, he's vegan. Oh, that's hilarious. So Ian's vegan. So now I'm chopping up onions and peppers. Oh, my God. And you just have wet a viny over. And spinach.

And I'm sauteing some vegan shit for Ian and putting it over some brown rice and cut up some avocados. I hear, Ian. That's hilarious, dude. Wow. Yeah, so I'm a short order. That is funny. Like you had a vegan Denny's, you know what I mean?

But it was fine. What did you do, Chris? Did you even watch the game, Chris? I went over my buddy's house who had it on and I literally didn't even watch a second of it. I just, we were, it was kind of a, I say not a big party, but it was like a gathering. I only knew him. So, but they have kids and we brought our kids and stuff. Yeah, that's how you do it.

But it was, it was cool. It was cool. But yeah, and then after that, I watched the bad bunny thing after that. Like I didn't watch it during it. I didn't watch any of the football game. You know what? I think that. I think that there was just a trick.

Like they said he was going to wear a dress. Yeah. That was just a trick. Well, yeah. Who said that though? Right. And I'm starting to think like, why was that a thing? The far right did.

The far right. Because he's worn a dress before. So they're like, oh, they're bringing a guy who wears a dress. And then some dumb ass it counts. Like he's going to wear a dress at the Super Bowl. And everyone gets all up in arms about it. And there's no. That's what it turned in.

I thought, but it was like it's the most watched halftime show ever. I know, yeah. Ain't that something? Well, but the last one was the last one. So it's just going to go up and up. Well, maybe. Well, yeah, until it doesn't, right? Yeah, yeah, maybe.

134 million people watched. Yeah, I thought it was more than that. But, yeah, I mean, dude, I watch. No, yeah. I love it, the turning point one. It's like, we got six million. It's like, that's four percent. Yeah, yeah.

It's still a lot of, it's still a big number. Yeah, I didn't think anybody was going to even. Yeah, it just goes up every year. I don't like when they do this more than ever every year it goes up. Yeah. What depends. It doesn't always. No.

Oh, Michael Jackson. Okay. Yeah. Okay, never mind. Oh, wow. So that.

Brandon? I got to send you. Oh, this guy's on this phone. Look at them. No. I got to send you some of these links, man. The Michael Jackson stuff, like what's coming out now and what they're talking about now about Michael Jackson is you just go, oh, man.

There was more nefarious stuff going on with him. I know nothing about it. No, but it's, You know, it's like all the stuff about him and Tommy Matola. Yeah. Why? You know, you're talking about the M.J was innocent. MJ was innocent.

No, how they were trying to get him. And then, you know, I was. Oh, dude, I fully, he owned all his masters and all that. Yeah, yeah. It was great stuff. I love going on Michael Jackson deep. I fully thought that. I think that Michael Jackson is a fucking weirdo and that's it.

Yeah. Dude, I, he talked about it himself. He was giving this one speech where he's like, look, I didn't have a childhood. My childhood was robbed. Yeah, dude. I don't. Yeah. That guy was famous my entire life.

Yeah. I was born. He was famous. And his. You know what I mean? Yeah. Right. I know.

No, I don't. Yeah, I don't, I don't fucking show. Show me. Show me proof. Or, or, or, okay. Yeah, but they can't. There's no proof in any of the,

the cases, like, notice he just settled. Yeah. Because his lawyers, like, it doesn't cost you more. Yeah. You're like, it's costs more to go through this whole thing.

So you just settle. And there are people like, oh, he's guilty. Think about being Michael Jackson and being innocent. And there's just lag in his entire legacy. Michael Jackson. But that's actually, you know what? It's more nuanced than that because that actually is not how.

Actually, California actually changed the law because of the Michael Jackson case. They changed the law that the district attorney is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is. To go for criminal charges, regardless of what, right. Right. Right. Right. But, yeah. Yeah.

But they settled just that one case with the stipulation that. They would testify in the criminal case. Mm-hmm. You know, they wanted that. And then the guy disappeared. I don't know, yeah It's great, great stuff Good, you know

Yeah, dude, I'm like, it's like The, the, when I saw the, The, the, the, they're trying to dig up now this, the, the, the wayfar thing again, you know, and the pizza gate because they're like, See?

I love how they're like. But the wayfer thing is like, that's got to be a lie, right? Well, bro. But I don't know. No, here's the thing. Well, there's some substance to Pizza Gate. Pizza Gate has,

legs. It depends on what you're talking about. If you're talking about under Comet pizza, Hillary Clinton after work was going to the basement to eat baby feet, go fuck yourself. Just go fuck yourself. No, no, no, no. That's what they do, though. That's what they do.

That's so preposterous, you're like, dude, that's not real. What's real is they used the pizza as code to traffic young children into sex labor. Now, that is way more. believable. But, but say that. Okay. They can't.

They can't. No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is when a, when a TikToker is saying, this is the thing and this is there. And this is how you know all of that, I assume is bullshit.

I, it is way, way more likely somebody is making shit up and, uh, making a collage of things, uh, to get views than, people are eating baby feet.

Okay. Now, I'm not saying awful stuff doesn't happen. Absolutely it does. It does. A lot of these people in power are doing fucked up shit.

I totally agree with that. Okay. But my point is, just because somebody says something on TikTok, that person is nobody. But people are like, look,

I have friends that are like, look at this link. And I'm like, who's that? And what are these images? Yeah. You can make any image. I have no idea.

Why wouldn't somebody make this stuff in these images? So now, I'm not saying what Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton. Yeah, they're doing for views. I'm not saying what. You could literally get the documents, Chris, and go through it. Not that you're going to, but there's people that have, you can go through it and see there's fucking cookie crumbles to Pizza Gate. Sure.

These are facts. That, that, I understand and it's very weird looking. Look, it is very weird that Wayfair, if this happened, we're selling those big containers for $13,000 and naming them days after the children went missing, the same name. If that happened, that is definitely suspicious. I don't know that happened.

I know TikTokers are saying it happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, but this is my point. No, I'm not saying, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, all these motherfuckers have done shit. Donald Trump, they've all done shit. That's all.

No, no, back up. Trump did have you, again, if you read the docs that were released by the FBI, the three million pages, six million pages, actually, and this is going to drive the left crazy.

In those documentary, in those documents, Trump's on there actually outing Jeline Maxwell and Epstein. He called, he wanted him to look into him. This is in 2000. was saying they're both scumbags,

evil people, the FBI should be investigating these people. Yeah, no, no. I'm not saying what Trump did on that island or in with Jeffrey Epstein is awful. I'm just saying like it's awful he tweeted that thing with the Obama's on the fucking guerrillas. You know what I mean? Like he's just obviously

this guy's just wild and that it's not cool and whatever you think of his politics fine. But yes, but the thing is here's okay on this line of thing. I they're frozen chin if a few months ago

or however many months ago that was and people were question Donald Trump press and he was saying why are we talking about this Epstein hoax? Yeah yeah no it's not a lot I know I know yeah So my thing is this

Either Because first of all You're the president of the United States You're not sitting down Or reading 3 million files Okay no yeah Right of course right Then his chief of staff

isn't even sitting down and reading three million files, right? Who's doing it? Well, that's my, yeah. Who's the person? Is it a room for the people? And how do you trust them? Exactly.

So that's why, to me, I think it takes this long because it's like mission impossible. It's like one dude in a black vault that, you know, they know, and he has to go through the things with the AI and he's like, all right, let's see. Someone has to know who these redacted names are. Yeah.

And so no one went to him when he was going, hey, this is a hoax. Right. No one said, sir, it's actually, it's actually not a hoax. And we've looked through,

because they've had these files for years. Right. No, yeah, there is the truth out there. Yeah, so my thing is like, I think we're being distracted

by making it about politics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When it's like, something nefarious is going on. Yeah, it sucks. And this is the biggest cover up happening right in front of our face.

And it's crazy. Now, and Eric, Like, you ready for this? You're ready for this? Dude, I like where this is going. Now we're talking my language. Yeah, you sat up.

Yeah, that lady who went missing got kidnapped, right? Mm-hmm. Right? That's on the news 24-7. Gun three, yeah. It's on the news 24-7, right? 24-7, it's all they talk about. Oh, really?

You don't hear about ice anymore. I don't watch the news, so I don't know. You don't hear about the ice shit? That's gone. No, I hear you. The Epstein files, they're getting closer than ever to solving some of this. shit and tracking down all these people you don't hear about they haven't covered it one a single day

it's all about you're talking about mainstream media oh yeah social media is different yeah i'm talking about fox CNN mainstream yeah i get it but hold on let me make a point here you guys what i i i really maintain this that people like the people are viewers who are on the left and whatever everyone needs to stop doing that because the president what we're realizing is just a figurehead. And what I like to relate it to is a sports league. The president is actually the commissioner. He's got some power, makes a lot of money.

But the real people are the owners. And the owners are the Federal Reserve, the big pharma, now Silicon Valley. These are the people, you know, these people are the ones who are really in charge. For sure. You know? So when you're talking about like, whoever's being like they can track of how all these people are connected and all this kind of stuff but it's like we because the media is another one the media is another because these places are

owned by yeah the same people who are probably on the list yeah yeah yeah correct you know what and the crazy part to me is and that that that's that's a disaster that's a disaster so to me the problem is that we're waiting for this list of people who are the people that are on the list are in charge of the list. Of course, yeah. So that's the first problem. That's a problem. Okay, that's a fucking problem, right?

Yeah. So there's a big problem. Eric, let's say you got the names. Who's going to prosecute them? Okay, we'll check this out. Yeah. Because they're already protected. Of course. At this point, this is, okay, I agree. And also they kill you. I agree. Because here's the thing. One, ain't it crazy that Galane Maxwell is still alive. Like that is crazy.

Like if you believe all of this, it's wild she's alive. It is wild. Because this is what I think. I hate conspiracies. But if you're, first of all, Jeropi S.D. was just probably the most arrogant person ever that thought he could get away with anything.

So if he's still alive, he's going to want to tell people. That's why there's that thing about him playing Fortnite and all that. I totally believe that he wants people to know he's alive. Okay. Sorry, you think he is alive? I'm saying if he is alive, he's the kind of person that wants people to know, hey, look what I got away with. No, yeah, I know it could be.

He could be. Yeah. But so the thing is, and this is, Brendan, you haven't, because you haven't been here, because I've talked about this with Chris on here, about this, on the, on the Patreon. So make sure you check out on Patreon. That's ridiculous. I don't ever believe that kind of shit. But here's a thing, man. It doesn't look like.

But here's the thing, Brendan. Forget the list. The people that know are the 200 victims that they paid already. that won the lawsuit $290 million from Chase $120-something million from Epstein's estate they have paid these women

now they either at worst at worst they paid them and then also had a little talk at worst well if you settle you can't come out if you took the money you can't come out not true not true because that's something I looked into about this too

all of them that won the cases can actually still be a part of criminal trials Yeah. They can still testify and they can still do lawsuits. But the thing is, it's like if someone got to them and was like, you're not going to win this. Look, we made sure you won this case. Right. Move on with your life or it's going to be.

So I fear for these people's lives. Yeah, for sure. Elon Musk just came out and he's trying to be like because he, his name was on there and he's trying to come out like, that's the richest man in the world. And he's like, yo, I'll pay for everyone's legal fees. if the victims come out, I'll pay for your legal fees. Well, my thing is like you should also be paying for their security. You know,

you should be paying for their security and making sure they're okay, and then they can come up because those are the only people that really know. These are the only people, if 25 women came out, just 25, and they were like, I was on a plane with, boom, boom, boom,

and these people did this to me, and this person did this to me. And I was this old. The thing is, it's like, at this point right now, at this point right now, they're not they're not redacting the names to protect the girls no no no no they're redacting the names to protect them 100% because once those names come out the first person the first place TMZ they would go find them and be like come on we'll give you all a million dollars each to tell you story now

Eric, Eric, no, Eric, here's what's crazy. That's all it takes. The guy who owns TMZ, what's named Harvey? Mm-hmm. He's in the T, he's, he knows they don't report about Epstein because he's, he's, he's in all those documents. That motherfucker was in it. That's why you don't see, TMD hasn't covered a single fucking fraction of it. Because that dude, Harvey, he's in it.

Yeah, blah, look it up. Well, that's, that's crazy. No, no, no, I'm not saying it's weird he's in it. I'm saying that he, that they haven't. covered it because they cover everything else. Not this. What does you look up? What is the thing?

Oh, that's it. Oh, there's the name. Yeah. Yeah. So what I'm saying is like, I think that it's just baffling to me that this is happening right in front of our face. But I do feel though that they go,

why are they just release it? I think they're not just releasing it because they don't trust this knowledge with too many people. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So I feel like there's just two guys. I don't think it's that. I don't think there's two guys in a room.

I think it's part of it, man. No, Brittany, I think they're, I think they're protecting these powerful people. It's the left and rights involved. It's the, no,

no, you know, I agree with that. You don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying, the way you help protect is not, only a very, very select few are actually the ones

holding the files and looking through them. And doing what's right. And do, yeah. After that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's really select few.

No, I agree. Yeah, they have no power. I mean, you would hope that, you know, Trump seems like somebody that would just go off the reservation. What do you mean? I would not be shocked, man. Tell the truth. If what.

Yeah. Trump is just like, just go get him. He goes to Cash Patel. I was like, you know what? Release it all and go arrest everybody. Right. And then whatever be damned. Yeah.

But Eric, Eric, but did you see Cash Patel on Rogan? Did you see Cash Patel on Rogan? Well, just straight up lie. That's what I'm booed. There's no files. There's nothing in them. Wait, wait. He's the head of the FBI.

He's the head of FBI. He's the eagle eyes. He looks like a bird. He looks crazy. Yes. Yes. He's on Rogan, he's like,

there's nothing in those files, man. If there would, you don't think I would go after and prosecute them. It's like, interesting. Because I've gone through a few of them. You could go after him, him, him, him, nothing? You can do nothing?

Yes. Yes. And no. I mean, there is like, the thing is, is like, the public shame. of it needs to go out and then there'll be an outcry for stuff but they but i don't know if there's

enough criminal uh things the the the ones listen they've been two arrests right they've been two arrests and two suicides okay internationally epstein and the other guy uh the french guy that was the french guy who was trafficking women yeah yeah yeah yeah he he killed himself quote unquote so right so you got gulaine that guy killed himself and apparently jempsie epstein killed himself All right. So there were some women and they were older. So this is from cases from before who said, nah, get him. And they got him.

All right. You know what I mean? So I think it can be done. But I think that it was like they, these people that were in those court cases, the recent ones, they absolved. Like they were like, it wasn't Bill Clinton. There wasn't Trump. There wasn't. So did you see those videos today that they put out?

They put out video. They have videos of girls. that are just like prancing around like their models. Where? And they said, they're videos of what? Just from the files. Just his personal videos of women.

And then here's what's heartbreaking. Very clear though. Wait, hold on. They said very clear like, you know, that none of this is illegal. Right. Yeah. And that's the tricky part about it.

Yeah, because some of it's just rich dudes trying to get their rocks off on the island with girls of age. And then there's a whole other dark side that's not. as, you know, as many people, but it's still a horrible dark side. Yes, it's hard for me to prove. You need proof of that. Sadly, you need proof of, you know, but the thing is, isn't it weird? Isn't it fucking weird?

Like, remember all this shit going down, all this, the fraud, the fraud in Minnesota and Minneapolis. Remember that fucking horrible fraud? And then all of a sudden, ice pops up. And they're, they're doing stuff in Minneapolis exactly where the fraud was found. So that massed that. And then the Epstein files come out. And it's getting all crazy.

And then now the news is 24-7 on the 84-year-old who's gone missing. And people go missing every single day. But this is what they're covering. It's all a distraction, Bubba. It's all a fucking distraction. Yeah, the mainstream media is dying, but there needs to be something to be done about it that, you know. Social media.

Social media is our only saving grace. I understand. No, I understand. But there are a lot of crazy and wrong people. on social media. That's the thing. Yeah, agree. It's possible, though, to go back to what you were saying.

Oh. Isn't it, it now seems feasible. It seems possible that they're so arrogant that they could be using Wayfair to traffic people. Like that is just dumb. Like it's not out of the possible. No, because it's not. But the thing is, it's like, this isn't what I'm saying. someone sure it's possible i'm saying someone knows something oh yeah and and even with these

victims yeah i hope they're okay because what's the best way to find out who the people are is to offer them a lot of money right right right here's what's heartbreaking if you read some of those files which i do this is heartbreaking so they're getting underage they were they're getting underage girls you know from third world countries like brazil places in europe up Russia, underage girls, and their dream was to come to America, meet professional models. So they sold them on that. And they would take their passports and traffic them here. And they'd be telling their family, Mama, I made it.

I'm going to be a star. And then they get here. And you're fucking, you got fucking Stephen Hawkins. We're like, suck my dick. And it's like, whoa, whoa, what the fuck is this? And they have them. They have their passports. They can't leave.

Like, that's the heartbreaking shit. That the public's not. aware of. Well, here's some of the one of the things I just go, at this point, after this set of files have come out, you would think people, everybody's stuck. Because how about Oprah Winfrey's jet going to Epstein's Island 12 times? That happened? Yeah, that's in the thing, though. Was she on it? I know, but on it or not? Yeah, it's still a weird look. That's a weird look. That's all I'm saying. That's go everywhere. Like, if you have the knowledge of like, it's tough, though. What do you do with that? What do you do? What do you know what I'm saying? Like,

what do you do? I think you come out of half. I think you come out of You come out ahead of time, I guess. I'm surprised more people aren't coming out now and being like, okay, listen, I didn't want to say anything because this was getting out of hand and it's like, you know why? Eric, you know why? But I didn't. This is what happened, you know? Yeah, but you know why? Because the mainstream is, like, my dad's not aware of any of this.

Like, I'd say 80% of America has no clue about most of this shit. Because it's not on Fox and on CNN. It's not on their local news station. Like we're for our job We're in tune with social media And all this shit But like my dad I mentioned Epstein

He's like that's still going on I'm like What do you mean? Like he has no fucking clue Well you gotta think They have they probably have one of those Clandestine meetings You know what I mean

Like it's like You know where they fly someplace And they're in some bunker And it's like you know Here's 20 of the most powerful rich people In the world No one knows their names And they're just like

What are we gonna do about this? God that's so weird You know you figure one person's like Listen, 80% of the people Deny, deny, deny. Yeah, let's just, we'll ride this out. We'll ride this out. It's so weird.

It's so weird when you think of it like that because it's, God, it's like sickening. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to think that's the thing. Like, dudes who have $400 million ain't shit. They'll kill those motherfuckers. Yeah. $400 million is nothing compared to these motherfuckers. Well, that's why, you know, it's like I, I don't know.

It's like, you know, Elon Musk. You know, it's like, look, dude, you bought Twitter for whatever reason. You have all this money. You're probably going to be the first trillionaire. Crazy. You know, if you're a lone wolf, be a lone wolf. Like, didn't do that, you know? Like, be like, you know what?

Yeah. I'll interview, you know, whatever you have to do. Yeah. Somebody had like that has to be the one. He's kind of doing it. He's kind of doing it. He said all the victims, you come out. I'll cover all your shit.

Like, nobody else is doing anything. somebody's got to do something but it's oh sorry oops look I just just said I'll add it to the list yeah wow somebody's got to do something I'll add it to the list it's gonna be Eric that's crazy right Eric's gonna be anonymous I know but it's just

Oprah Winfrey's jet was 12 times went to fucking Epstein Island and by the way I'm gonna be in Bakersfield on February 20s in Vegasville yeah man it's just it's a look if you're it's you know it is it's disheartening I don't believe in conspiracies

I think that, you know, I don't know, I don't believe in all. No, no, I'm just saying this. I'm not saying, not all of them. At base. At base, I don't, yes. I'm not saying that conspiracies don't happen. You've been around too long. You've been around too long. You're not less.

Conspiracy, thirsts are mainly right. That's my thing. I didn't, I didn't want to believe it either. These motherfuckers are back and fucking. I don't know if they're necessarily mainly right. Like, I believe. Really? I think that they have.

Well, what, what are what you, I mean, Epstein was, was that. conspiracy? I mean like yeah it was cover up is the conspiracy right right right right right yeah but but I don't even know if that was a conspiracy yeah because it happened it was it was though it was though no it was years ago if you had said oh yeah these all these people and bill clean are going yeah no I know I would have been like no they're not yeah I get that yeah so that's true right but that's a but that's like pretty big one okay to me that's huge I know but to me it's like what about the killing of a president JFK take take take take Take like, take, oh, this is funny, I'm about to just say.

No, yeah, something weird fucking happened. I'm saying, I believe that that's a conspiracy too. Right, right, I know, but what I'm saying is, so you have JFK. And then you go, you have JFK and then you say, all right, well, what happened here? What I'm saying is the conspiracy of why they killed him is the thing that will never be definitive. Right. And that's where they win. Because you can look at that and just go, okay, we have this video, video shows.

A good point. Something. They killed Oswald. They killed the guy that killed Oswald. You go, so on the surface level of it, you go, something's going on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what I don't believe is that Oswald killed him from the book deposit. Right, right, right.

I don't believe that. Right, right. There you go. Yeah, I know, but that's not, what I'm saying is that's just the base of the conspiracy. Right, right, right. But the thing is what I want to know is who did it. Right, right. And whoever's in our government that aided and abetted this thing, we'll never know.

No. And what I'm saying about this Epstein thing is, this is happening right in front of our eyes. They're planning this right in front of our eyes. They're executing it right in front of our eyes. And we don't know. Like to the point where they're blacking out people's names in the files they're releasing. That's crazy. Eric, but they've done this before.

They've done this with Vietnam. But not in real time though. No, JFK is not real time. No, in the JFK assassination. No, I know what he's saying. The JFK assassination, the public was in uproar. They didn't believe Harvey did it.

None of them did. There was a huge uproar. Nobody bought the story. The Warren Commission made it by. Yeah, the Warren Commission was complete bullshit. So even back then people were like, this is fucking not working for us. But then it dies down.

Kind of. It's still the biggest conspiracy. They've been in Vietnam, called for Tang, like all this shit. I don't know if it dies down so much as it's all news. Who's so, right? Like, who's supporting the push? That's the thing.

There's no one there to say, I think we should still look into this. It's the kind of thing, especially if the government is involved, who does it benefit for people in government to be like, other than the people to be like, hey, let's, we got to keep looking into this. Oh yeah, no.

They don't give a fuck about the people. You go, yeah, lock that away. There's a law or whatever. You could go, yeah, lock that information away for 75 years. Right. 75. Yeah. Make it 75.

Yeah. And then the 75 year comes. We'll all agree on that law. Then the 75 year comes in there like, then every president for 10, 20 years is like, now we can't release this. Right. And then the guy dies. That's why.

JFK is just the tip of the iceberg. JFK is like your intro level. You're a white belt and conspiracy theories. JFK is like the white belt. And then when you start looking into other shit, you're like, good God. What's fucking. Yeah, you got to get to the Stam Tripoli level. Bro.

Oh, you don't only go that far, but you, it's, it gets weird, man. It makes you question everything. I know, but there is a point where you don't, you question things. But that's great. Yeah. And then there's a point where it's just like, okay, when you have a question, what are you looking for? an answer. Yeah, yeah.

And what I'm saying is, we're not going to get it. And that's the frustrating part, especially when, especially when it's like if you go, hey, the question is what's two plus two? And then you see four things here and no one will say it's four. Right, right. But you know, isn't it far? Especially not Territ's Howard. You know what, yeah, you know what, which one's fucking crazy to me is Operation Desert.

storm. Weapons of mass destruction. And then there was, there's no weapon. There was zero. That was wild. But think about it. Think, we're, we're all dads here.

Imagine we, let's say we're back in time. Your kids were 18 and they went to war in Iran, Iraq for the desert storm and passed away. Dude, think how fucking mad you would be. You certainly would die. You know what? Let me tell you some right now. I say something right now.

From nuclear fucking bombs. I'll say something right now. None of it's real. You know what? I certainly would sound like a crazy person on the internet. That's for sure. I certainly would sound like that. Now you get it.

Are they crazy? No, no, no, no. I know. I know. I know, no. You're in a camper on top of a mountain with a big satellite dish and you're just like, you know, big beard and you're just like, here are the documents. But my thing is, but my thing is, it's happening all the time.

All the time. You ever looked in the Mandalay Bay shooting? No, I don't even know what that is. Oh. Oh, you're talking about Vegas? Yes. Oh, you mean the one like eight years ago? Yeah, at the country concert.

I haven't looked into it, no. Sure. That'd be great if you said, you know what? Yesterday. Yeah, no, I haven't looked into it. It's worth a look, though, just to be like, what the fuck is going on, dude? It's fucking scared. I understand.

But you also, on the other hand, you can turn anything into a conspiracy if you have enough people asking a bunch of crazy questions. Yeah, but if you just look at the actual facts and you can come up with a, you can actually put two and together like, okay, this, this. With a lot of the things, yes, with a lot of the things. I know. I don't think there's anyone out there nowadays unless they're 90 years old that are like, no, the government's straight up with us. Yeah. No, Brian Callan.

I argue with him about this all. That motherfucker thinks the government, he goes, you think they could hold a secret in if they actually kill JFK? I'm like, yes. No, that's crazy. That's crazy. No, that's Brian. He's older. Right.

He's over. But I'm not like that. I don't think that people are even, even if it went down like it did in the JFK movie by Oliver Stone, even if it went down that way. Back into the left. You know, the guy,

you know, when he guys says, it must have happened like this. There was just a group of people in a room. And somebody said something like, you know, I always liken it to my favorite scene in a movie is casino. And the guys are in the back of the,

they're on trial and the guys are in the back. And they're talking about the, oh, the guy. And they say, what about what's his face and they're like hey he's solid then the other guy's like he wouldn't say anything and then other guy's like yeah I trust him

then the last guy's like are we sure you know and then what happens that guy gets killed so what I'm saying is the reason why you know like you have someone say like Brian who thinks the government can't hold a secret what I'm saying is

it's very easy to hold a secret if people in power are just talking like this correct you know if we're just We could be talking like this like, uh, chin. You know, he's got to go. Do we trust chin? And it just happens like that. It's not like we're sitting here like writing it down.

You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, we're not going, Google, take notes about the killing of chin. You don't know. Yeah. It just happens. No, I, yeah. So I get why, you know, there's, you know, we watch too many movies.

That's one thing. But I think that, I think that's a way of making us think that nothing's possible or, you know, maybe it went down exactly like that and we're like oh no that's just a movie you know i think you got to be so naive i think you'd be so naive to trust what the government tells you you just got to be a you got to you have you have no context of history no i yeah i i i agree just like they told us to do that they told us to get our booster shots like okay no i know i agree i agree yeah thanks with all that stuff that's going out coming out now all right i'm going to be in vancouver and uh australia speaking of

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