The Golden Hour - Sam Tripoli EXPOSES Sorcery | #191

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Chris and Erik sit down with Sam Tripoli and talk the Kobe conspiracy guy and whether Kobe was into the occult or just about to sue a pharmaceutical company, LeBron's Boulé tattoo, Sam getting asked if he's gay in an MTV pitch meeting, why LeBron and the Rolling Stones are still performing, Sam's core beliefs that people conspire, all culture is fake, and the world is run by literal sorcerers, the Statue of Liberty secretly being Lucifer, doing comedy tours during Covid and finding out the Portland riots were 30 people in a park, Trump's America 250 event that nobody knew about, staying happy while being cursed with knowledge, social media rewarding negativity and Tim Heidecker going after Tony Hinchcliffe, Tony making it as a door guy when he wasn't supposed to, system entertainers versus building it outside the industry, Sam bombing at Montreal in 2000 and spiraling into addiction, the crowd work debate and how it's really just freestyle rappers accessing a database, comment cards at comedy clubs, shadow bans and tombstone algorithms, Netflix podcasts losing their numbers, Elvis energy and comics who sell their souls, Nate Bargatze going clean, Chris and Nate shooting their Comedy Central half hours on the same night, telling a young comic he doesn't have "the show," the Comedy Store's savage midnight third show, roasting the lead singer of Cage the Elephant without knowing it, Sam's upcoming dates, and much more!VanMan: Visit VanMan.shop/GoldenGet two extra episodes every month at https://Patreon.com/TheGoldenHourPodcastTo submit to the show email: [e-mail] or Dropbox Link: https://www.dropbox.com/request/fqtbexhxyaky9X8f8MV1In the subject line, specify whether your submission is King It or Sting It, Debate Club, Rip My Drip, Relationship Advice, or Flaunt My Aunt. In the body of the email, include the attachment, your name, where you’re from, and in the case of Flaunt My Aunt, the name of your relative.SUBSCRIBE to The Golden Hour Podcast: http://www.youtube.com/c/KingandtheSting Get your King and the Sting merch at https://thicccboy.com/collections/sale-home-pageFollow #TheGoldenHourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.golden....Twitter:https://twitter.com/the_golden_hrFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/KingandtheStingAnd check out Brendan, Chris, & Erik on social media!Brendan Schaub:https://www.instagram.com/brendanschaubhttps://twitter.com/BrendanSchaubhttps://www.facebook.com/OfficialBren...Chris D'Elia:https://twitter.com/chrisdeliahttps://www.instagram.com/chrisdelia/https://www.facebook.com/chrisdeliaof...Erik Griffin:https://twitter.com/ErikGriffinhttps://instagram.com/erikgriffinhttps://www.facebook.com/erikgriffinc...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

She's six years old, dude. So then we're driving the other day. I'm late for gymnastics. So I'm driving as fast as I can to get to gymnastics. I get to the stop sign. There's three cop cars. Two cop cars go through. I'm like, I'm late, dude.

I'm sorry, third guy. I got to go. So I go. Third cop gets butt hurt and starts following me everywhere, right? Yeah. And she's like, why is he following us? And then I get to this area and there's cops everywhere. I go, why are there so many cops?

I say it out loud. She goes, man, there's a lot of cops. She goes, six years. old, do we live in a police state? Oh my gosh. Bro, that's your daughter. That's your fault. That's your daughter. She's listening to you talk to yourself and she's just like, huh?

She's, do we live in a police state? You look back and she's got a podcast mic like this. We're friends that laugh. We're friends that shout. Sometimes we don't know what we're talking about, but that won't stop us. Nothing can stop us. This guy. So, this, what's going on with you?

What's going on with you? Yo. Yo. Sorry, I'm like. Are you? Yeah, bro. Yeah. Two years we started 11 and you're here all the time and all of a sudden.

Nah, bro. Because my wife's doing the Harry Potter house and I fucking don't get the kids, the kids, I gotta watch kids and then it fucking teach me in a Harry Potter house. Okay, our bitty party? Yeah. Well, my wife's doing a wizard Airbnb. be yeah it's not harry potter house can't say that but also it's just it's a wizard air vabian nurse almost done it she's there killing it so sometimes what does that mean a wizard air bambi well mean yeah like really oh yeah that's fire it is dude and i didn't know it was going to be fire honestly so we guys

bought a property and now you're Airbnb i had the property we put the house on a market and it's this like dog shit out there. Yeah. Market sale. We're like, I'm not getting rid of it. Just make it a thing. And she's like, oh, I would love to make it a, a wizard Airbnb.

I was like, you would. She's like, yeah. I was going to pay for that. I was going to do it. She's like, I'll just do it. So she's doing. It's amazing. I'll show you the video later.

But anyway, and so we're going to book it out. I was like, I mean, all right if you want to do it. But everyone I talked to was like, oh, Harry Potter's so big. I know Harry Potter's big, but I'm like, I guess what makes some money? I'm still going to retire. Yeah. Bro. I can do a Harry Potter.

Imagine you get to retire from a Harry Potter. Get me out. No, do a, do a wizard, do a super Mario Brothers once in the old. Marvel comics? I don't care. Let's go, dude. Get me out. So she was staying over there last night and I had to wait for the nanny to get here.

And, you know, it's just a good disaster. But anyway, so sorry. It's all right, dude. I know, but it's rude. Yeah, fine. Well, then, you know, that's all I need it. Just say that. That's the fact.

You showed up. So. Dude, pretty good. That's true. That is true. Well, welcome to the Golden Hour, Sam. I'm here. Our resident conspiracy theorist.

Yeah, dude. So it's a nice shady area, you guys. My God. I thought you guys were working at the junkyard. I was like, what are we? I thought that maybe it was going to be, honestly, some bad stuff was going to happen, but it never has. It's actually nicer than you think. No, I love the valley.

I used to live out this. I think we've just gotten lucky of this particular area. Really? I mean, it's not. It's the valley. No, it's, but it's, yeah, I understand what you're saying, though. It's deep in the valley. Yeah, I mean, there's a junkyard down the street with shady looking cars.

Is there? Yeah. It's like, it's like really, it's like almost arm out like. Well, it's like it's a junkyard with insanely nice cars outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which makes me something's going on. Yeah, something's going on. I'll be dead bodies in a trunk.

Probably somewhere, dude. That's how a lot of the, um, What do you call it? We go to the coffee place and a, yeah, yeah, there's like a drug place you go. Oh, yeah, there's like, yeah. So they, well, first of all, they got this like food coffee place right here now. Which makes no sense. Yeah, it's like, you know.

That's the area that's gentrified that one building. Yeah, yeah. It's a nice coffee. And then on the corner, there's like a weed dispensary type thing, but the cops are always there. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Because they're probably selling some other shit out there.

Or the cops are getting a cut of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or they're getting robbed. Because I think a lot of the problem is like I don't know if banks take weed money now I thought there was something where they wouldn't take weed money. So they got a ton of money on them so they always get hit. No but when they when they de- what did they decriminalize it federally then that's when the banks were allowed to it's like really weird with banking dude you never know. And this weed

dude it ain't your grandpa's weed. So what do you mean though? I'm in like recovery dude and like people come in on weed and they have tweaker energy. Oh really? Oh. Oh, yeah, dude. It's like 10, it's like 30 times stronger than the weed, your grandpa and woodstock used to smoke. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, but if anything's, everything's more palpable. I know, but if things are 10 times stronger, you, you change the dosage. I don't know if that's on. No, you got to go in and go, give me the pussy ass shit. Like that the, I don't want to do. Like, that's my whole thing. It's like, all this crazy shit going on in the world, like in whatever's happening in this country. If they just gave us cool shit, we would be cool with all of it. Like, just. Just. Just. of us cool shit. What do you mean by cool shit? Like make housing affordable, make gas affordable, make movies entertaining. How about like drugs, cool, fun drugs again where I don't like get like, I don't get like schizophrenia and worship the devil. Can I, can I have that? And speaking of good segue, we were talking about this weird guy on the podcast. What was the guy's name? The

Reverend or something or other. Oh, that guy. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We thought of you because. Yeah, we thought of you. Weird guys. Of course. No, no, no, no. I'm like the mascot. The guy, I think his name is something waiters or whatever his name is. The guy who was talking about Kobe, Kobe. Oh, Dr. Bishop Larry Gators. Yes. He said all that stuff on my show first.

Yeah, but long time ago. Yeah, but here's my thing, though. What did he actually say? Because I watched this whole video, this thing, and he doesn't say anything. Let me just say this. This is my thing about conspiracy theories. I think anybody. They're right all the time.

No, no. No, that's another thing. They're right more than we thought. Way more than we talk. Wait, wait, but my thing is like, I don't mind. I think we all want to believe the thing that you're saying. I think, but the proof that you come up with is always bullshit sounding. No, I totally disagree with this guy.

Well, this guy does. The way this guy talks, you get to a point where you're like, all right, I actually don't even. He does something where you go, okay, I don't know what he's saying. Because he will say, that's a, that's for another discussion. Right, right. There is a lot about Kobe that is very weird. Clear it up for us. Kobe was very much into the dark art.

Which is what? Which is a cult. Could be into Alster Crowley. It's called The Lima. He was into that shit, dude. How do you know he was in a dark shit? There's a lot of symbolism in what he does. His children's book is so below, so above, which is very much an Alster Crowley thing.

It's a cult. There's a lot of stuff. Like, did he get into the? No, no, no, this guy didn't talk about. Another guy talked about it. The Wizard of Vaz. There's some symbolism with the Wizard of Vaz and a very dark, dark energy with that.

But his old thing was that Kobe, and this is true, was about to sue the pharmaceutical companies. I've heard about this. And that definitely you go, really well, okay, well, that's something. There's a couple of things you don't fuck with. You don't fuck with the pharmaceutical company. And you don't fuck with the liquor alcohol companies, too. They're super like prime bosses.

And we can all agree. that we for sure companies have taken people out from time to time. Okay. But I agree. Right? But I'm saying if you're going to start with talking about conspiracies about Kobe Bryant, shouldn't we open with he's suing the company that could cost them billions instead of starting with the occult with no real, you know.

Well, you know. It's more conjecture than anything else. Have you ever seen LeBron James chest tattoo? No. No. It's the boule. Right. So, but the boule is a, is, there's a lot of lore around the boule that is blown out of proportion.

Is it? Well, I don't know. But that's what, but, but, you're here, you're here to clear the air. I believe it's a double, it's either double lion head or it's a line with wings. That's the boule and the boule. So the skull and bones, they are old school. They have some racist things. And they're like, you can't be black.

I think maybe the only black person ever be allowed in the skull and bones was Obama because he is a, he is a Bush, right? His grandpa was like cousins with George Bush. So he's a Bush. So he might be in it. But so they made, they made another. That really is the boule thing. That is the boule symbol. And they get these guys all early.

You always see the symbolism done. They get these guys early because they don't know who's going to blow up. Okay. Right. Right. So that leads me to, wouldn't some of these guys talk about it more? No. Because why? Because then that's when you get taken out.

I understand. But, but, but, but. Why would you have the tattoo on? Because it's symbolism, dude. It's like it lets everybody know what, what, because not everybody knows that's a boule. Right. No, I know that. No.

So, but then, but isn't it playing it to out in the open? No. If this is an organization, that's whatever it is, whatever organization. Secret Society. Controlling the world, you know, in a way with a bunch of powerful people. It's layers. It's layers.

Sure. I understand that. But wouldn't this be like, okay, look, get him. Get him. And I know he's a billionaire and he's protected, but not everybody in the secret society is protected. And there would be people. What is getting him?

You know, lock him up. What did he do? I don't know. Don't know. Like, allegations, whatever. Yeah, but what, but the boule shit is like, what does that mean to people? 90% of the people who say belay, they go like, what is that? That sounds like a pasta.

That sounds like some jazz band in New Orleans. You know, it's hilarious. Nobody knows what the fuck it is. Yeah. Right? Oh, yeah, some wrestling team, you know? So it's just means he's in. Okay, okay.

Wait. So this is the thing that I didn't like about the other guy. He starts talking about something, never finishes it. It moves on to something else. Okay. It looks pretty sick with that tattoo. I know, but what's the... So, okay, so you have to get tattooed.

Is this part of the thing? No, you don't have to. Okay, but then what... How deep does it go for him? Well, what does it mean to be LeBron James are part of this thing? Yeah, he could be part of Boulay. What does it mean?

But that does that mean? Whatever it is. Eating babies, I don't know what the conspiracy is. Right, that's what I'm saying? What does it mean? Is he part of kill who killed Kobe? You know what I don't know. Yeah.

Or is he just like, because there are guys in Boulet for sure then that are like, we're doing what? Yeah, just like the nexus. Yeah, but you don't get to that point if you say what. You don't get there. They do little tests to see if you're, so this is an interesting story. So here we go. I remember, I'm going to lose everybody, but it's the true story.

So when I was really young and things were starting to pop for short like two weeks of my life, I got brought into MTV and they wanted me to pitch show ideas Right And so we're pitching the show ideas And out of nowhere the obviously gay guy goes You're gay, right? And I go

I go wait for real Hand to God Nothing well not that it matters But you don't seem gay at all Yeah what was Adam about But it's like But like so confident right Oh you're gay right

Yeah like like hey are you Are you in or out? Okay. Like that's, that to me what that's about. I've had other people, like I had a comic tell me that, like, he went to,

uh, general and they were asking him everything except for the, the entertainment part, like your business stuff, you're all that stuff. There's a little heat checks along the way. I mean, sure, sure.

No, so, so when everyone goes, hey, did we fake the mood? Dude, someone there would say something. People have said stuff and they end up dead.

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Start your free trial today. Like they play ball, they'll do whatever we want. They'll stab their mom if we ask them to. Right, right, right. Because they just want access to power, fame, and money. It's mafia shit, yeah. Yeah, mafia shit. So, so, so.

Jump in shit. So they said, are you gay, right? Yeah. And I said, hell yeah. Did you? And they go, oh, it's gross. And then I got kicked out. No, you can't win.

Yeah, I go, who did I got a bang to get this going? Can I ask. Can I, let me ask a question here. Is this good cop, bad cop? Yeah, it is. No, no, no, no. No, I'm genuinely curious about it. And I genuinely am interested by you, besides just a friend, like, I love your stuff.

Thank you, I love you. So this is what I, this is the part that I, LeBron James is arguably, you can argue the greatest basketball player ever. You can argue that, sure. Top ten. Yeah, I mean, it's not important. No, no, but this is important because what I'm saying is like, I would be, I would believe that there's some secret society if when it's doing stuff if if if i was a star in the NBA yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that would make more sense okay but you mean you're gonna get the

greatest athlete arguably ever but you're saying well the only reason he's the only reason he's this is because he's in something no he would get this fame fortune and all this because he's a great basketball player that's my my question is but why isn't it like somebody less get you early and yeah regards of people want to believe it or not there are been there have been multiple allegations of LeBron James doping, and all those allegations go away. They get killed off very quickly. He's been the center of almost every cultural movement in the NBA, BLM, the Chinese discussion. He's like in the middle of all that.

The secret society is protected. And there would be people. What is getting him? You know, lock them up. What did he do? I don't know. I don't know. Like, allegations, whatever.

Yeah, but what, but the boule shit is like, what does that mean to people? 90% of the people who say belay, they go like, what is that? That sounds like a pasta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. Nobody knows what the fuck it is. Yeah. Right?

Oh, yeah, some wrestling team, you know? So it's, it just means he's in. Okay, okay, wait. So this is the thing that I didn't like about the other guy. He starts talking about something, never finishes it, It moves on to something else. Okay. It looks pretty sick with that tattoo.

I know, but what's the... So, okay, so you have to get tattooed? Is this part of the thing? No, you don't have to. Okay, but then what... How deep does it go for him? Well, what does it mean to be LeBron James are part of this thing?

Yeah, he could be part of Boulay. What does it mean? But that does that mean? He's, whatever it is. Eating babies, I don't know what they're conspiracy. Right, that's what I'm saying? What does it mean? What does it mean?

What does it mean? Like, I don't know. Yeah. Or is he just like, because there are guys in Boulay for sure then that are like, we're doing what? Yeah, just like the nexium. But you don't get to that point if you say what. You don't get there.

They do little tests to see if you're. So this is an interesting story. So here we go. I remember, I'm going to lose everybody, but it's the true story. So when I was really young and things were starting to pop for short like two weeks in my life, I got brought into MTV and they wanted me to pitch show ideas Right

And so we're pitching the show ideas And out of nowhere the obviously gay guy goes You're gay, right? And I go Wait, we're real? Hand to God Nothing, well, not that it matters But you don't seem gay at all

Yeah, what was Adam? All right? But it's like But like so confident, right? Oh, you're gay, right? Yeah, like, hey, are you? Are you in or out? Okay. Like that's,

that to me what that's about. I've had other people, like I had a comic tell me that, like, he went to, uh, general and they were asking him everything except for the, the entertainment part, like your business stuff,

you're all that stuff. There's a little heat checks along the way. I mean, sure, sure. No, so, so when everyone goes, hey,

did we fake the mood? Dude, someone there would say something. People have said stuff and they end up dead. Okay, I understand that. The people in the room that you see cheering, they're selective.

to be there because they people are like they play ball they'll do whatever we want they'll stab their mom if we ask them to do because they just want access to power, fame and money. It's mafia shit, yeah. So so so so so jump in shit. So they said

are you gay, right? Yeah and I said hell yeah. Did you? And they go oh it's gross and then I got kicked out no you can't win. Yeah I go who did I got a bag to get this going? Can I ask a can I let me ask a question here. Is this good cop back guy? Yeah it is no no no no

I'm genuinely curious about it. And I genuinely am interested by you, besides just a friend. Like, I love your stuff. Thank you. I love you. So this is what I, this is the part that I,

LeBron James is arguably, you can argue the greatest basketball player ever. You can argue that, sure. Top 10. Yeah, I mean, it's not important. No, no, but this is important. Because what I'm saying is like, I would believe that there's some secret society

if, if doing stuff, if I was a star in the NBA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would make more sense. But you're going to get the greatest athlete arguably ever. You're saying, well, the only reason he's this is because he's in something. No, he would get this fame, fortune, and all this because he's a great basketball player. That's my question is, why isn't it like somebody lesser?

Because they get you early. And regardless of people want to believe it or not, there have been multiple allegations of LeBron James Doepe. and all those allegations go away. They get killed off very quickly. He's been the center of almost every cultural movement in the NBA, BLM, the Chinese discussion. He's like in the middle of all that, everything.

He's always pushing certain narratives because that's his job. His job is to make people out of mind. So a great, so I just was literally talking to somebody today about this, about like, James still playing. All of his friends have quit. No one else is playing. You go, well, their wheels fell off. Okay. Maybe. That's fine. But why are the Rolling Stones still touring? You know, why is Willie Nelson still touring?

Why are people who could barely, barely freaking talk still touring? Well, because, and, uh, what's his name, um, Dylan, um, Bob Dylan? Bob Dylan said it, man, got to pay the man. Right. Got to pay the man. So I had a buddy of mine named Jamie Josta. He's in Haypreed. Have you ever heard of that band? Heypreed. So it's a famous rock band. It's like a really big rock band.

He was on my financial podcast, which is hilarious because I know nothing about finance. I just sit there and make noises, right? That's such a funny thing to know that you're on a financial podcast. So Jamie Jasa was on the podcast. And he was talking about, he said this. He goes, yeah, I was thinking about just putting our concerts on our, on our website. Right.

And, you know, and he was talking to someone and they go to him, well, you better cut them in, dude. Who? His, his agent, his manager, the people who basically helped him blow up. Right. Right. You better cut them in because they don't fucking like that, dude. So that, so you go, why is there? I went and saw the Rolling Stones.

One of the greatest live shows I've ever saw was in 1993. The Rolling Stones played. played Vegas. It was a big deal because it was the first time one of those big bands had come and played Vegas because for the long time

Vegas was where you went to retire. So now this giant band played this small arena in Vegas and it was a big deal. And my friend was one of the roadies that worked for the arena and got me in and I got to see sympathy for the devil,

which to this day is the greatest live song I've ever seen. Oh really? It's the greatest live song. It was so good. Dude, hand the God. It was their farewell tour in 1992 or 93.

They're still going to. And you're like, why are you? I saw them when they played Dodger Stadium. You're like, it's a dog shit show. I know, but can I say? Because people come. Well, yeah, that's it. So the argument would be they love what they do.

They're still making money. People come. Well, they love the money first. Forget about people. But how much money is enough money and how much is like you going out there and you can't do your job? Like, Mick Jagger's like, Mick Jagger's like, dude, now he's like, Dad, you got me up. Right, right, right, right, right. You got me up and not.

He's doing the Trump dance, basically. I mean, he's just doing like six figure dancing. But this is a different discussion. The discussion is, hey, like, you know, you're past your prime, let it go. That's different from we're saying that they're being forced to do it. Well, like, I don't know, like, you know, I'm 46, you're 50, whatever. And like, and like, but like, you know, when you think of retiring, does it? Does it sound nice to you?

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I already knew that. I'm trying to get the fuck out, dude. I'm tired of traveling, man. I know, but the reason why you don't retire is because, like, now I have a two-year-old and a mortgage. Right, right, right.

So we don't know, like, we say they have enough money. Maybe they don't. We don't know people's spending habits. We don't know what they do. We don't know how much money they actually gets. This came to mind, yeah. Yeah, it's like, huh. I mean, like, are any of the fans still alive?

That looks crazy. I mean, it's like, why are you touring, dude? Because he's got a 40-year-old girlfriend who wants to get paid. Okay, but that's not being in the boule. Yeah. Yeah. You're not answering the question.

I get it what you're saying, dude. I get it. It's hard to believe, dude. But like, I'm going to tell you something right now. You go, Sam, what are some certains that you believe 100%? Yes, that's what we're asking. Okay. But also, let me just say this.

I kind of want to believe these. That's what. I'm not like. Dude, listen, if I ever got a ton of cash, I would literally, I would literally create the conspiracy news. Like it would be done like MSNBC, but would just all be conspiracies. Good idea.

Right? Like, it would fucking be fired, dude. Good idea. Okay, I would do that. So here's some things that I 100% believe. Okay, okay, okay, okay. And why, though? No, well, just first start with the,

go do it how you want to do it. What I believe is that people conspire. That at the basic core, that's all we're saying. I've conspire. Okay. Everybody's can inspire. So we all agree on that. Of course.

The next thing I believe in is that all your culture is faking gay, okay? And that it's all literally contrived. Gayness. No, no, not that. Well, it's just a joke in terms of like what conspiracy. They say everything's fake and gay because at the end it's like a closet of gay guy. But it's like at the end. It's all.

fake. Got it's all, it's all, none of it is real. I could, I could definitely, I see that. Sure. Okay. So everything is faking gay. And then the last thing is, and this is where I lose everybody, that the world is literally ran by, I'm dead serious sorcerers.

Like I'm talking like, that's the one. Harry Potter. Not exactly, no, not as obvious literal sorcery. So magic is real? Magic is 100% real. All it is. is is manipulation of energy for an outcome. Okay.

That's all magic is. Okay. Whether it's Kabbalah, Freemasonry, Jesuit, at the end of the day, it's, and this is where we get weird and I don't want to get too weird here. No, no, no. I want you to do what you do. At the end of the day, it's all Babylonian sorcery. That's at the, that is the center of real power.

Okay. And everything is a magic trick. Okay. They're just manipulating you. That is the one that's harder to believe, obviously. So I'm going to tell you a story. This is a true. story. So during COVID, I used to go on the road. And my agent at the time, I forget who I was

with, but they called them suicide runs because I was one of the few people that would go on the road during COVID. Because everyone's like, you're going to die. And me and my fans were like, I don't believe any of it. Right, right, right. We're just going, right? So I get both. There were a lot of comics doing that. They were called suicide runs, right? So I go to Portland. Yeah. All right. And this is reasonable place. Right? This is, this is during like the BLM.

Yeah. Well, here's the thing about my crowd. Like, wherever I go, they, like, I realize that the Tim Follah

comedy tour with me and Eddie Bravo were, was something. When we went to San Francisco, and they came out. We packed out the cobs and we were making jokes about Obama in San Francisco,

and they were laughing. I was like, okay, we're on to something here. They're everywhere. They brought us in to battle. They had a big, they always bring us in

when they have a festival that COBS isn't part of. They're like bringing in the fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring in the schizos. Let the schizos come in and entertain, dude. Hey, they buy drinks too. Yeah, dude, it's so funny.

When we go to a comedy club. By multiple. And we're playing the first time. The club is like on DeathCon 5 high alert. That's hilarious. They literally think we're bringing in like the fucking like the borgs or whatever that group is, all the all the weirdos and Game of Thrones or, you know, you know, they think we're bringing in the,

like fucking savages. And then they meet them. They're like, they're the nicest people ever. I know, I know. They tip fucking great. It's like, yeah,

dude, we just talk a lot of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyways, I get hired to do Portland. Okay. At hilarities.

Okay. As a comic, just you. Not the Timfoil hat thing. No, it's just Sam Tripoli coming out. So I go there and there was a bunch of guys that had a comedy,

I had a podcast at the time called Good Morning Jones Town. These two really funny guys. They used to live in Florida. For some reason, they moved to Portland. I don't, know why. Wow. So we get there

and they're opening for me. This other comic was opening for me. I don't want to get into that. But so anyways, I land and we're talking at the show and I go, hey dude. Because at the time, if you watch the news, Portland was burning. Yeah, yeah. There were riots everywhere, right? You're

like, there's riots everywhere all over the place. And I get there, I'm like, dog, let's go look at these riots. Right, right, right, right. Let's go check these riots out. And the guys go, we haven't seen one. Yeah, I mean, I believe that. For sure. You haven't seen one? It's the news.

It's like Portland's burning. It's like, dude, we haven't seen one. I'm like, after the show, we're finding riots. So we got in the car, we drove around, and it took us half an hour, and we found it. And it was a little park with maybe 30 to 50 people. Right. But it was shot in a way by the news to make you think. Sure.

Like earlier in the day, I'm getting lattes with a comic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you don't live in Port, you think it's on fire. That is a magic trick. I totally understand that. I get that. and I agree with you because even with the World Cup stuff,

you see all these people posting like, hey America's great. What the fuck you're talking about? It's so funny, dude. Because it's like, yeah, dude, it is great. I mean, like, yeah, if you want to go find somebody get murdered,

eventually you're going to find somebody get murdered. But it's like the barbecue is awesome. Well, this is like whatever those riots we had in L.A. Yeah. Or the ice shit? Yeah, yeah. And if you actually watch the footage of that like no Kings that was really,

big, you'll notice that it's like one rider with like 15 reporters around him taking pictures. Yeah. Yeah. It's all sorcery, dude. I get that. Manipulation. I, I, uh, yes, for sure. I know about manipulation, especially with the media and shit.

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Join us every Wednesday wherever you listen to your podcast. I feel targeted by that pet cemeteries comment. I was about to say, wasn't that you? That was me. Yeah. But, but, but what do you, what does it mean that, uh, so, so so what I want to ask you is about because Donald Trump at this 250 this America 250 thing that he was just like there's tons of people that are coming and it looks like nobody came yeah

so what is the truth there because is it because because it's both sides right it's Obama but it's also the I mean Trump is doing it too the guy at the top is doing it right that you don't get to the top he's a he's a chaos magician so so yeah okay so okay so okay because I mean I saw that footage at America 250 and it looked like there was literally no but let me ask you some did you know anything about it until the day showed no so it's like you got you know you sell a lot of tickets i don't sell a lot of tickets right but you know how hard it is to sell a ticket yeah it's fucking hard you have to fucking pound these people constantly yeah right and i didn't hear anything about this fact not that i know i know it's probably an invite only it's at the white house it's not an invite only if you look

around just somebody knew about it like i just have people showing up buy the ticket to go to the white house there was like i saw a fat woman that definitely bought right so it's like nobody knew about like again it's just everything like Nate Burgatsi getting shit for going to the fight it's like so stupid like you're not gonna go I'm like because I'm in a political realm I don't I wouldn't go to that thing but he's not a political comic I know yeah look at that dude I like nobody knew about it dude I love that they're still performing I know that is me in the OR at fucking one in the morning it's hilarious yeah who you telling I was in

Pensacola doing a show like this. Yeah, Brian Callan was here. The, uh, up next. But wait, wait, wait, I have to, listen. I have to ask, okay, because we're going to, I don't want to get off track here. Just like that waiter's guy, he said, Bishop Gator, whatever his name is, just like when he said, he said, he said, hey, he could be a fraud. Well, wait, wait, wait, he also could be right. I understand that, but he said, you know,

Hey, just so you know, what I'm saying, telling you this, I am not suicidal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's comedian. You know, conspiracy theorists love that shit. Yeah. They're going to get me. They're going to kill me. No, but my question is like, okay, so if you're, if you're saying, you know, they're hiding wizardry from everybody, should you be exposing it?

Well, I have a good friend of mine. He's really, um, he's really, uh, religious. He went to college and became super religious. and he came back and you know a couple summers ago i went home i think i brought my kids with me then to hang out with their grandma and we had a talk him and his wife and they were like are you really doing any good is it really good and like i love them they're they're wonderful people this isn't a judgment on their their they're them as people but they're like are you really doing any good and i go well you know more people listen to my show they wouldn't have gotten that covid shot by a weapon

and friends i'm losing are getting turbo cancer and all this shit. And if you don't know that, it's because your algorithms hiding it from you. So here's the thing about conspiracies, right? It's not that you're meant to like change everything. You just want to know what is going on.

Yeah, yeah. So you don't fall for their tricks. Yeah. Well, like, well, for, okay, so I got the first COVID shot because I was like, why the fuck would the government lie about this? You know what I mean? Because why in my head, why would do that? Nah, I would, I mean, after I got the first one and all this shit started happening,

and I started hearing shit. I'm like, I'm not getting the next one. You're a good person. Yeah, but for me, I was working. We are a nation of retards. Right, right, right, right. Governed by psychopaths.

Right, right, right. We're literally a nation of retar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You watch people's reaction to stuff and, like, you know, as a conspiracy theorist, you want to help humanity. Then you go on TikTok and you're like, get rid of everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right?

It's like, get rid of everybody, dude. We're just, but social media also isn't really real life. Like, it's very, It's very odd. Like, you know, there are times where I'll post something and then it'll turn into fuck this, fuck that guy. And I'm like, oh, everyone hates me. Bro, I've walked around.

Nobody's ever said anything negative to me ever. Dude, most of it's bots, dude. No, I know that. They're there to cause. So if you really want to get deep into it, the people that run the world worship dark entities, these dark entities have been hiding for a long time. Like, you guys know that the Statue of Liberty is really a guy. guy, right? That's not a chick. I didn't know that. No. Yes, it's a dude. And it's a Mithras who is also

basically, Google it. Basically, Lucifer. If you study it, the Statue of Liberty has the light, which is the bearer of light, and she's chained down, which is Lucifer. That is Lucifer. And it is a dude. So they, so when these, what was it? It's high. Yes. And if you watch France's, whole like opening scene from from the Olympics when they hosted the it was the most satanic shit so okay so so basically what what because this is what I I don't really understand so this is secretly on the hush lucifer and France knows and America knows and they're like we're gonna put the fucking symbol out there but we'll just tell them it's some lady with a book yeah and and and represents liberty right that

represents the literal opposite. I wonder what they do. So that's what they do. And then, but what, why is that good for, for, for them, for anyone? Because if everybody believed, because everybody, think thing where they're like, yeah, we got that fucking thing up there. Yeah, that's a little bit of it. Yeah. Yeah, because if everybody else believes it's like if, if most of us go, well, that's a sign of liberty and freedom, then it's a what it is.

It's a sign of liberty and freedom. Wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. keep, if it's a, if I believe it's a sign of liberty and freedom, to me, it's a sign of liberty and it is. So if other people think it's a sign of, well, that's the devil and they're, then, then that's what they think. But you also end up worshipping dark entities. Oh, by mistake. You're saying, like Easter is not about Jesus. Easter is about Istar. And that's an ancient. The movie with Warren Beatty. Yeah. Where do you get your info from? Because I'm online a lot. I don't see this shit. Yeah, because you're an algorithm. I use AI and then.

they tell me whatever the... And AI lies you all the time. It's algorithms. I'm just blessed. I have a show where, like, the greatest researchers come on and they bring all the evidence and cite all the notes. And what's the show called just so we can... Tim Foll Hat.

I have a bunch of shows. I have seven shows because I'm a crazy person. And you do one every day or what? I do, like, today I'll do three. Wow. I'll do this one, another one, and then another one. I get it. I'm just an insane human being.

And if I wasn't here, I would just be talking to myself all day. It's very interesting. You'll see me driving up again. And my daughter's like, Dad, are you talking yourself again? I'm like, yeah, that's what your dad does. I'm doing a podcast. I'm just not recording it. Yeah, exactly.

I'm podcasting all the time. Yeah. Well, I'm the same way. Yeah. I'm just not saying that stuff. But, yes, I'm just making up silly bullshit. No, no, my wife's, wait just says. How long you've been doing comedy?

20 years. How long have you been doing comedy? Over 20 years. I'm at 31 or 32 years. Wow. Oh, wow. I've talked about. everything I care about.

Right. I'm like, I'm just writing for the sake of writing. That's why I'm like, I'm ready to get out. Because I'm just writing for the sake of writing. Yeah. And like I used to write because I was passionate. Now I'm just writing because I gotta get this next hour going. And I'm like, why do I got to get this next hour going?

You actually don't. I don't. Where do you release your stuff? So I just, I shot my fifth, well, technically my fourth special. It's my fifth one because the first one was so long. I broke it into two. So it's my fifth. special. It's going to be put on gas digital first and then they're going to so is gas digital the the allegiance to these guys yeah and then then they're going to give it to me and I can do whatever I

want with it. But they wanted 30 minutes. I shot 40 something so I let me edit the whole thing and put the whole thing out because right now I got a really big project going on and I'm I'm talking about some crazy shit in this special and I just don't want the people who are working really hard to have to pay any prize for the crazy shit I say in my act. So I'm going to hold off on some of the jokes till a little bit later and then release it and then not give a fuck what anybody thinks because I just think all culture is fake. And they've just programmed us to think ridiculously stupid shit. I mean, that's not that unbelievable to me, what you're saying.

Like a buddy of mine's getting canceled because he said the M word. And like I hate to tell everybody, culture is all manufactured. It is all alike Someone broke down All the Gangster Rappers And how all of them are full of shit Biggie Smalls sold his entire persona This is the one that hurt the most

What? Biggie Smalls Sold his entire persona From a Mississippi rapper His all of his biggest hits Were ripoffs from this guy I heard about this Yeah, I heard about it too

Tupac wasn't who he thought he was Jay Z isn't who we thought he was And you can just go down the line Dude Like it's literally all bullshit They're still good rappers It's great right but it's done on purpose.

It's done. If you listen to rappers talk about old school rappers, talk about pre-NWA. And NWA, like Tim Foll Hat, the name comes from my love of what NWA did with the word. I'm like, oh, dude,

they took the word and they fucking owned it, right? So I'm like, I'm going to find the most demonized phrase and conspiracies and just fucking own it. So I'm like, Tim Foll Haas. Do you remember the movie Pelican Brief with, yeah, okay? So in Pelican Brief, she writes this like thing and it turns out to be true.

Are you ever worried that like you're going to write a bit or you're going to be talking about something that is so on point that the powers of be are going to be like, ooh, he's too close. I'm just not that big. Yeah. They're not they're not worried about me. I'm not on their race. I am shadow band everywhere. Like they won't let any of my videos get over. Like I have a moment where my videos are.

for me getting 30,000 on YouTube. I'm like, oh my God, they let me. And then boom, it goes right back to 20,000. Yeah. So, oh, really? Down? Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.

All the time. Really? The next one. Not the same video goes down in views. Oh, got it. Right? So, I mean, I've seen my numbers go backwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, you know, it's like, the only thing that lets me do well is like Apple podcast because they don't control. For some reason, Apple's like, we're just, we're not controlling this. This is just an upload system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have no saying. YouTube, I used to get hundreds of thousands of views on my videos. Now I can get barely 15,000.

So they're not worried about me. They've got me in a box. It's called Tombstone Algorithms. I don't know if you've noticed on YouTube lately. They've allowed conspiracy podcasts to do really well because what they did was they used conspiracy theorists to build a platform. Like my friend, he put out loose change about 9-11. Everyone ran to watch that.

And then YouTube blew up. And then after about 2015, they locked it down. But when they locked it down, they allowed other platforms to blow up, like Twitter and Rumble. Right, right, right. And then they got freaked out because they were losing everybody. That's why they were so thankful when Joe Rogan came back. They're like, oh, we need all these fucking views because this is how we sell ads.

So they let it all come back. But Tombstone algorithms like, hey, man, we remember you and what you did. We're not going to forget you. So these new guys can blow up. Got it. Yeah, yeah. But not you. Right.

That's why I almost feel like Netflix brought podcasts over to Netflix so they can hurt YouTube. Because all those podcasts that went over to Netflix, their numbers are way down on viewership. On Netflix? Yeah. Yeah. But they're also like, there's nothing exciting about them. Yeah, that is very true. Like Brian Williams?

You want to get Brian Williams? Who's like dying to hear what Brian Williams has to say? But like the Breakfast Club was on, you know, they were doing YouTube. They were getting big numbers. and they went over to they went over to Netflix And they're getting less numbers? Yeah,

less views than they did You can see Because no one goes to Netflix On Netflix they show the views of the podcast Yeah Well that's what the report was That they're getting at the reports Yeah

Yeah They got you know It's just YouTube Like people My kids love YouTube They love watching You know I know I know mine do too

Yeah they go They want to watch Fucking Can I watch YouTube Yeah they just love it My daughter It's so funny dude I think they only care about

Like my kid just cares About what it is He doesn't know where it is I put it on the TV and it's like you know blippy or whatever these you know he doesn't he doesn't know where it

if it was coming on Netflix he'd be like hey where is it put it on yeah I mean yeah I mean my daughter's love listen I'm gonna tell you some I've been watching a lot of kids animation it's so funny dude

I'm like what the I try to get my daughter to watch Charlie Brown with me because I love that as a kid it's a flaming bag of dog shit I know compared to like Super Mario it's crazy

Like Super Mario, I'm like, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. These kids haven't made. It's insane, dude. And my daughter's vocabulary is so insane. I know, mine too. She came home one time and she's like, do we live on a ball or do we live in a puddle? She was five at the time. Wow.

Wow. So the other day, the mom went on her game and knows that her game said she was on at 11 hours, which isn't true because she kept it on while she was sleeping. Yeah, yeah. and she's like, why were you on the game 11 hours? And you know what my daughter said? They don't suspect the thing. To who?

To the mom about me and my girlfriend. Like, am I raising Lex Luthor? Dude. Oh my God, that's hilarious. They don't suspect the thing. She's six years old, dude. So then we're driving the other day. I'm late for gymnastics.

So I'm driving as fast as I can to get the gymnastics. I get to the stop sign. There's three cop cars. Two cop cars go through. I'm like, I'm late, dude, I'm sorry, third guy. I got to go. So I go, third cop gets butt hurt and starts following me everywhere, right? And I'm like, I'm talking out loud.

I go, damn, dude, this cop is following me. And she's like, why is he following us? And then I get to this area and there's cops everywhere. I go, why are there so many cops? I say it out loud. She goes, man, there's a lot of cops. She goes, six years old. Do we live in a police state?

Oh, my gosh. Bro, that's your daughter. Yeah, that's your fault. Your daughter. She's listening to you talk to yourself and she's just like, huh? She's, do we live in a police date? You look back and she's got a podcast mic like this. Where are you going?

We're streaming. Oh, dude, it's like crazy, bro. But at the end of the day, it's all manipulation. But if you get off it, like you say, it's fine. Like those riots, where were that? I didn't see any. It's all magic tricks, dude. Because they feed off your anxiety.

If you could just knock it into any of it, I know it's really hard. But if you're like, none of this is real. Like there's a famous, I just did a podcast, and there was a story about a white guy who got stabbed by a black guy, right? After he got stabbed, the white guy called the black guy the M word. They go to trial, according to the story, the jury lets the black guy off because the white guy called him the M word after getting stabbed, right? Come on.

No, this is real? Yeah. And I'm like, you stab me, I'm going to give you Hitler-level speeches, okay? I don't get, I. All of a sudden I know German, yeah. Yeah, right? So now you're like, what is, and then I told him to this guy,

and he goes, how do you know what really happened? And I go, I don't. I really don't know if it really happened. Or is that being put out to get us all the fight with each other. Right, right, right. Well, this is the thing. How do you, I think, you know, it's like what Thanos said to Iron Man and Revengers.

In the documentary. I'm also cursed with knowledge. Yeah. So how do you stay happy? What did? Well, I'm happy because like my kids don't have any cares in the world. Everything's taken care of like on a basic level. And I'm happy because I know what's going on and I don't play into the game anymore. You know, it's like I'm basically an anarchist at this point.

Like I don't believe in any political systems and you're not going to vote your way out of this. And I'm just watching people okay with corruption because their side's doing it. Right. And I'm like, you're just all fault. for it and really the truth is everything you're watching right now is about mark they want martial law because once you get martial law then you get rid of all your this is too serious no get rid of no no i'm totally you get rid of what you're your constitutional rights yeah once they have martial law their constitution goes out and that's what they really want yeah i mean well i mean that's in terms

of like social media too i mean i'm it's all engineering i feel like i i just a point around where i feel like i wish i should just never use it well here's i took twitter off my phone i just I did the same thing. It's all bots. It's a trauma delivers. How many bots. Yeah, it's all bot. So,

so the problem with social media is that the only thing we see is what bubbles to the top. Right. And you have to be the most extreme to bubble to the top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the extreme becomes the norm. Of course. And you start thinking that's all normal. Well, but what about like just on a lesser level of like,

why does it seem to encourage negativity, you know? Like, forget about the, the grand conspiracy and the things that you're necessarily talking about. I'm just talking about just in your own algorithm. Like, you know, you want to be a part of it. You think it's fun.

You know, let me put up a video. And then you have to see all of the negative stuff. And that seems to go to your head first. Well, I saw, well, I saw,

but that's how humans are. Like, I saw, like, I know, but then you don't want to be on it. What's his name? Tim Heideker has a podcast,

which I just found out. Oh, yeah. And like, he is talking shit about Tony Hinchcliff on it. Somebody brought that up to me today. And I'm like, What are you doing?

Like I'm watching, I'm not a fan of, particularly a fan of Tim Heideker. I love Tim and Eric. It would change the game. It was like super, I don't really know it that well. It's like everyone was trying to be Tim and Eric forever.

And trying to do these weird pacing, weird awkward side and stuff. I don't like that shit. He kind of changed the game. But anyway, uh, that, I'm watching.

I see a thing and it's like, it's like Tony Hinchcliff is bad, whatever was negative on Tony Hinch. Tony Hinglescliffe and I'm like Tim Hidaker and I go Why is he doing that? It peaked my curiosity You know

And then if I see Nate Brighatsy A clip of Nate Bagazzi And the thing is A funny story about my friend I don't give a fuck about that Yeah But I love Nate Brigazzi So so it's the it's the shit where

And then I watch a little bit That Tony What he's talking about Tony Hitchie And I go I'm not watching this He's just shitting on him Fuck this is stupid Yeah you know

And and and but that's the shit shit that fucking goes. And I'm like, I can't believe Tim Heidecker is doing this. Yeah. Like, bro, you are an old school success. Yeah.

Why are you talking shit about some comic? Well, because he's, it's all about, it's like when all these comics who are progressives, when they got a new special coming out, they go after Joe Rogan.

Because they know that the people they want to watch their special, hate Joe Rogan. No, I know. So if they see, they see him, talking shit about Joe Rogan.

It's like hate clicks. Yeah, I hate that shit. Yeah, it's stupid. Well, why does it, what I'm saying, though, is like, it's that, I guess this, I guess the psychology of it is, like, human nature is like negativity seems to, like, resonating our brains more than anything is. Because it's like I find, like, it's like these videos people make about people. You just go, I guess nobody wants to watch a positive video.

Yeah. Wow. You know? Well, it's also that a lot of people are miserable in their lives because they took the first exit off the highway of life and took a job that was going to pay them quickly and they're not happy in it. So they love

when people who are succeeding fell. And the thing about Tony Hinchcliff is this, he wasn't supposed to make it. Like you were at the store forever. Were you there when he was a door guy? I don't know if you got in there yet. But he was a door guy. Like, and where he's selling out arenas now. Like, there's a group of people that think

this is the, this is the, this is the, the, the structure of entertainment and everyone takes their turn going and these are the people we've chosen and they're the ones who's supposed to make it and when this dude comes out of fucking nowhere and it's like what it's like what Isaiah Thomas said about making it to the NBA it's like walking through the jungle and never getting stung by a mosquito it's like impossible right what Tony did is impossible and it happened and people are pissed about that it goes back to this Scott fan you ever watch Sports Center yeah Not Van Pelt, the bald guy.

He said something one time that really resonated with me. He goes, I've noticed that when the experts pick a talent coming up, a can't miss talent, that they only celebrate their wins and never pay attention to whatever they do wrong. But when a talent comes out of nowhere, they're hypercritical to them and never really pay attention to the things they do well. That's the same thing in comedy. If you're, if you were picked as a golden one, they can't stop. Stop celebrating you. If you're a dude who came out of nowhere, they fucking hate that shit.

You're not one of them. I totally agree with you because I feel like with comedy, for instance, one thing I'll say what's great about YouTube and social media for that is that a comic doesn't need the gatekeeper. In the beginning it was like that. You know, but even still, because because not really. Well, here's the thing, because before the gatekeepers would decide, all right, we're going to put you on HBO. We're going to put you on Comedy Central.

We're going to put you on this. And then the people would go, well, I guess these are the best people. Yes. Okay, so because they put them on this thing. So now when someone could do the thing like Tony did, they could do podcast and they can do this kind of stuff, now the gatekeepers aren't in charge. Now it's direct to consumer. But there's new gatekeepers. Yeah.

Right, right, right. Mark Zuckerberg. Now, now. When it first started, it was, you know, when Vine was out. Yeah. And I was on Vine. I'm like, oh, I'll just go viral. Yeah.

And that's how I built my fan base in it. But you can't do that now unless. They won't allow it. Yeah, no, yeah. They won't allow. Because it doesn't benefit them. There was that one guy, the guy with the country, his name's not country mama, but country something, Darren.

He got in a fight at JFL. He was, I think he was one of the last, like, not really a comic to just use the Facebook algorithm and become a millionaire. And Facebook was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We got to stop this. They just will not, like, your followers do not see your stuff anymore. Yeah. So I don't know even what the point of that is.

But anyways, my point is like, I think that that does happen. So then someone like Tony comes out of nowhere and does this thing. But it's not out of nowhere. He was doing it in front of 30 people in the belly room. And then he blows up to this thing. But it's not. I call them system entertainers, right? Like it's like in football, there's something called a system quarterback.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a quarterback can only thrive in certain systems. So you have these guys that have been pushed forward by the industry. And when the industry kind of, Abandones them, you see them flopping around trying to make stuff happen. Like they'll start podcast and end it immediately because they're not getting any views because they don't want you to see behind the curtain, right? So then there's people like us on the outside. Like I bombed at the Montreal Comedy Festival in the year 2000.

I was excommunicated right out the gate. And it was at the time it was crushing. It caused me become, it led to me becoming a crippling drug addict and all that shit because all my friends. are blowing up and I'm just spinning wheels and my career's not going well so I started doing drugs I started doing drugs now my career's not going and it was like this vicious circle but you know me and my girlfriend

she was always figuring out ways to make money on on the side and we started doing things we would put names on the marquee at the comedy store and we get more cash for it so by the time COVID hit I was built for that shit I was way out of the system and I was thriving right so if you're in the system

and you're doing well and then all of a sudden the system abandoned you you've never built that that muscle so that that's what happened so Tony did blow up for I'm not saying you didn't do hard work no you know we know you're not saying that but it's like the system didn't he wasn't you're saying he wasn't supposed to make it because he wasn't a system entertaining yes well I think the thing to remember any comic out there right now is you know if you're looking for you know algorithm push or you're looking for likes you're looking for that don't worry about you're that the real likes are every ticket bought yeah and those people don't necessarily want to be a part of the negativity you know it's like when we have even if we get negative comments on this podcast

those people don't come to shows the people that do come to shows they never comment because they don't want to be a part of that negative system you know where i felt that what comment cards at comedy clubs i go you're just allowing fucking assholes to manipulate you yeah because the People who love you aren't going to write it down. They're going to come to you after the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And be like, I love that fucking show. Thank you so much.

It's the person that you say something they don't agree with that fucking hate. That's a big problem with comedy right now. Yeah, I got caught up in that a little bit sometimes too. Like before you, you see comments and you be like, why are you saying this? I would go through the comment cards at the end of show. Get rid of that. Get rid of that. Where are they doing comment cards?

They used to do it all the time, man. They used to do it all the time, man. They used to do it all the time, man. Maybe they just never brought it. They're on the table. Who'd you like? Who'd you like? Who'd you hate?

Yeah, they're on the table. What'd you like about this comic? Would you like that? You know? Really? It's like Yelp. It turned into Yelp. You know what I mean?

That's what that kind of stuff is. So you blow up on the internet for four reasons. Either sex, stupid, violence, or pissing people off. Yeah. So I had a bit about how my, my pronouns are real M word. And it blew the fuck up because they knew it would piss people off. Sure.

Then I have, and that's just a throwaway joke. It was a throwaway joke. I saw that. That was funny though. Right? It's just a throwaway joke. I never do it unless someone asked me my pronouns in the crowd. So funny.

And then I scan for black people and I go, okay, there's one guy here. We can take them. Boom. And I say it. Right. So that and when I got heckled by this gay guy and I just snatch his soul. And it blows up because it knows people are going to get pissed at this. Right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. When I do bits that I'm like this fucking crushes, nothing. Yeah. So weird. I'm right there with you, brother.

Nothing. Like I love talking about my kid. I love talking about being married. I love talking about some positive stuff. And then that's the stuff you do. And it's like really funny. The crowd's having a great time. I'm killing.

Right? But that stuff, nobody cares about that shit online. Well, no, no, because they're not showing it to anybody. Yeah.

That's why nobody likes it. And it's like, look who they promote, dude. They promote, like, like, I see the rooms you're playing.

You're crushing it, dude. I'm out here fighting for my fucking life, dude. And you're super funny. I know, I know, I know,

I know. I know, no, no, no, I know. I'm out here fighting for my fucking life because they're not showing me anybody. And everyone's seen what comedy is on Instagram and TikTok. And they're like, this is not funny. Why am I going to go buy a ticket to comedy when this is like 20, 23 year old hot females talking about their snatch? This is just crazy to be. And because you know what they're doing, dude?

They're literally kneecapping the jester. The jester. They're in, you know, in a world of clown. nobody likes to jester because the jester talks the truth so they just want to kneecap that shit so it's just vapid shit being thrown against the wall about my pussy about all that shit like this crowdwork by young good-looking guys that lead to nowhere they don't even say anything funny it's the people in the audience saying shit that's funny and it just blows the fuck up i did a thing that i did a thing where i bit went viral of course because it was negative it was a joke but i was saying like

about how it's so annoying that crowdwork is a thing now and then you go you know you'll do you'll be what's your name what you're fucking what do you do and you're oh now I just got sold out the galaxy and all the fucking comments were just you know yeah fucking this great yeah I hate this shit and then and then I'm like you know I bring a video guy with me and I'm not necessarily

gonna post all my bits really sometimes but I'll work because you don't want to do your bits of course right so you want that to be here every time I which is that doesn't that shouldn't be like that anymore because no one cares yeah I mean it does kind of work I'm just old school I know that's an old school thing no one cares no one

cares. No one cares. I'm saying, put your bits out. No one cares. Oh, yes. Absolutely. Yes.

But, but, but every time I post a crowdwork clip, they're like, fucking see, bro, you are, you are who you hate.

I'm like, bro, I'm, that's fair though. No, it's not. And I'll tell you why. I'm amazing at it. I'm good. No,

you are great. I'm, I've worked fucking two decades in the OR at fucking one a. Yeah. Doing crowd war for three people actually working my skill. Yeah, yeah,

I'm not this entry level fucking 23-year-old comedian that's like, I'm going to get out there and do crowdwork because this is what's working. That's terrible. I know, but who's that? I don't know who's that person. They're there, dude. And they're blowing the fuck up. And by the way, people think that that's who Matt Rife is, which he is not.

Matt's been doing it. Matt's good at it. Yeah, Matt's great. Right, right. But people use his face and his youth as, oh, this is what's wrong with comedy. When it's like, bro, dude, if that's wrong comedy, he's playing fucking giant idiots, bro. Idiots, idiots.

Well, but see, my thing and this is, and this is an old school feeling about it is, I think the art of stand-up comedy no one cares about. The art form of stand-up comedy. You know, that is what I take it to.

I know, but that's what you fight for. You're fighting for that. You know, but that's what's lost. So regardless of being great at it or not, in terms of crowd work, what I'm saying, for me is like,

well, like, no one cares about putting a joke together and having a, a punchline and a callback and and and that that art form of that before for doing this thing that like you're saying no audience member i feel like that's lost in society we don't really care about it well if you post a great bit and you go to comments so like finally a great written bit right right right right it's a great bit right so like on my youtube i have a youtube those people buy tickets though yeah yes

yeah and like you know who buys tickets podcast people because they you're talking to them for an hour you're a part of their fucking life so you know like i'll throw out so like on Saturday nights when the crowd is drunk and dumb and you don't want to take your precious babies your jokes and throw it out to retarded drugs yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll do some crowd of course you know and like i'll go 30 minutes of just rocking same and i'm like put it out as it's special and then everyone goes dude i'm so over crowdware yeah yeah yeah it's just empty calories i just i but yeah but also you're you're so good at it bro yeah So you should, yeah, the fact that these idiots are out there like,

this is what's wrong with comedy is like, dude, you have no idea. This is not what's wrong with comedy. This is a vet doing what he does best. Tried and true. You kill in all rooms all you all, right, right. You're not fucking some guy with a guitar off YouTube. That's 25. Yeah.

That's like, let me see you in this song I wrote a week ago. Yeah. I know, okay, well, they're not my, my small pushback. I'll be the one to push back. You'll be devil's advocate. It's like, the thing is, like, I don't like when people are recording in the room, right? Can we just experience this here?

Yeah. Like, so my thing is like that crowd work, that should be for that room. Yeah. But you put it on the internet. Yeah. Because it's like, oh, I need to sell more tickets and this is what people. Okay. But what I'm saying, that.