The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens - Ultra-Processed Information: AI and the Coming Deluge of Noise | Frankly 128

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

In this week's Frankly, Nate explores the growing sense that many people feel disoriented and overwhelmed in a world increasingly saturated with digital content. Constant exposure to headlines, hot ta...kes, summaries, and algorithm-driven feeds can erode our sense of clarity rather than strengthen it. The rapid rise of artificial intelligence has served to dramatically increase the speed of information production while also eroding accuracy, making it difficult to differentiate between content that simply sounds confident and content that's actually grounded in reality. Nate draws a parallel between today's information ecosystem and the modern industrial food system – just like fossil fuels helped create an abundance of cheap, calorie-dense but nutrient-poor food, AI may create an abundance of information that is fast and persuasive, yet has little "nourishment." In a world where digital tools increasingly do more of our thinking for us, Nate grapples with how to prevent cognitive atrophy and filter the flood of content we likely will face in coming months/years. How can we be rich in information and yet poor in wisdom? Why is it important for us to be able to tell the difference between content that's engineered for engagement and content that genuinely improves our judgement and our lives? Finally, what daily practices might help us stay grounded as AI increasingly reshapes our cognitive environment? (Recorded February 25th, 2026)   Show Notes and More   Watch this video episode on YouTube   Want to learn the broad overview of The Great Simplification in 30 minutes? Watch our Animated Movie.   ---   Support The Institute for the Study of Energy and Our Future   Join our Substack newsletter   Join our Hylo channel and connect with other listeners

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning. I increasingly feel that as a species, we're living through a slow motion tragedy. And it is my greatest hope that with the work on the great simplification in this platform, we can help the viewers engage with the ongoing more than human predicament in ways that alter the default pathway. Not to preserve the world as we know it, but perhaps. So a better one can emerge despite the myriad challenges. That's going to require knowledge and sensemaking and courage and categories of interventions. But before all that, it requires that we have agency at the level of the individual human.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But I think preceding actual agency is the feeling that we have agency, which I think increasingly most of us don't. And this lack of agency and some suggestions on what to do about it in the face of the metabolic economic superorganism was going to be this week's topic because I've been thinking about it a lot. But then I thought about it more and there's a prequel that I think I need to highlight first. Something I've been noticing in my own life. And given many of you are by definition watching this online and on YouTube, I guess that you have two, or at least in a rhyming sense. I now open my phone in the morning, hopefully after my 12-minute elephant path meditation that I'm supposed to be doing upon waking. And when I open my phone,
Starting point is 00:01:59 phone, I find an endless stream of headlines and threads and clips and charts and hot takes and counter hot takes with confident explanations of what is happening today, why, and the implications. And yet increasingly, the feeling I have after swimming in some of this is actually a loss in orientation instead of the clarity or the dawning of. of insight that I was looking for. And I'm pretty worried about this. Yeah, there's always been more information than any one human can process and hold. But what's changing now, and in my opinion, about to change massively. Yes, because of AI and algorithms, is the sheer speed and scale of information available to us and, dare I say, promoted to us.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We're in a period and about to enter a new period, I expect, where for those with strong foundational knowledge and an understanding of how to use large language models will actually increase the true signal, the knowledge, the integration, the making sense of things. But parallel to that, for the wide majority of regular people, The sheer increase in content, the noise, is going to far, far outpace the increase in actual signal. A flood of content so large, it's going to make many people who are online and accessing media feel like they're drowning. And the new AI systems make it so extremely cheap to generate text and stories and narrative and coherent strings of words.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And if you remember, I've said this a lot of times, and it was in our book for college students, the human mind can imagine millions of times more sentences and word combinations than can exist in the real world. And now AI is going to do that on steroids pairing with humans. they are going to produce fast and confident summaries and honed arguments and explanations and answers at a scale that we've never seen before. All with a tone of competence and authority. And of course, there's going to be summaries of others' work and summaries of the summaries.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And I imagine it won't be long even with a small number of followers. on this channel, there will be summaries of some of my monologues with AI graphics and other things posted by people I have no idea. So the universe of potential knowledge or things, you know, claiming to be knowledge, is about to explode. It really hasn't even started yet. Shown in this graphic. Each cube represents 3.2 million people and the one red square is people coding or vibe coding. And the yellow cubes are those paying $20 a month for an advanced large language model. And the green are those using free chatbot. So this is very early days for the pipeline of AI enabled content. These systems can write mesmerizing and witty paragraphs in two seconds.
Starting point is 00:05:46 but this is a potentially very separate thing from writing that is thoughtful, helpful, or even accurate for navigating the world around us. So I think the sea change ahead is that the scarce resource is no longer going to be content or information. The scarce resource is going to be authenticity, judgment, and the ability to discern what is great. grounded in truth, in reality. So taking a step back, it dawned on me this week that this tectonic shift is a pattern that we've seen before in the physical world with our food systems and then subsequently
Starting point is 00:06:32 our physical health and nutrition. We have completely re-engineered our food systems away from high quality soil and nutrient, hence raw ingredients, synthetic, fertilizers and food products engineered for shelf life and irresistible taste. I could go into a lot of detail about this, but the summary is there's no part of the food system left untouched. And just like AI, it's very costly from an energy standpoint. We use something like 12 to 14 calories of fossil fuels to deliver one calorie of industrialized food to the dinner table. And this fossil fuel,
Starting point is 00:07:16 expansion of our food systems created real abundance when it came to global calories produced and how many people we can feed. But if we look at a layer underneath that, it created a bizarre result. The world currently has almost 3 billion people who are obese and almost 1 billion that are malnourished. And in many places, including my country, the USA, we have people who are both overfed and undernourished at the same time. About half of the households who struggle with malnourishment have at least one overweight or obese person. So it is completely possible to be swimming in calories and still be underfed on the vitamins and minerals and such that actually build a body. So due to fossil fuels, we have obesity and nutrient deficiency together. And that paradox showed
Starting point is 00:08:12 up, just like many other spend drills of the economic superorganism, because our system optimized for what it could scale and monetize, better yield, convenience to people, profit margins, and the supernormal palatibility to our evolved taste buds. In fact, and I find this upsetting still, a large majority of modern food is not designed to nourish us at all. It's designed to be addictive. And I mean that in a literal sense, so it continue to sell at a profit. Check out my podcast episode now a couple years old with Robert Lustig, if you want to hear more about this. Okay, that's backdrop for my key point today.
Starting point is 00:09:02 One of them. I think AI is about to run a parallel dynamic on our copy. cognitive lives as fossil fuels did on our physical lives. AI industrializes information production, the same way industrial agriculture industrialized food. It makes it so cheap to produce something that feels like nourishment, that tastes like better understanding, and that also rewards our service. that are craving certainty and novelty.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yes, cheap and abundant about to come in spades. But the important and expensive parts do not automatically come along for the ride. The expensive parts are things like measurement and sourcing and expertise and accountability. and these expensive parts are the things that tether words to our world, to reality. So continuing a trend that started with the Internet and was boosted with social media, we now risk becoming information rich and wisdom poor on steroids with AI and large language models. we risk becoming mentally full with so much noise, but still feeling and actually are undernourished for lack of real signal from all the information.
Starting point is 00:10:51 We might actually call it ultra-processed information. And I think that phrase matters because it points at the underlying incentives. A lot of what will flood our inboxes will be engineered for engagement and virality, not for truth or for better orientation. It's going to be built to be clickable and shareable and emotionally activating. And unfortunately, it's also likely to often be very coherent and persuasive. Taking it one step further, just like the biggest food manufacturers found something called the bliss point, the attention economy is going to run on the same optimization. So food is
Starting point is 00:11:39 optimized with the just right ratios of salt, sugar, and fat. It's very plausible. A lot of AI content is going to be optimized for the perfect blend of novelty, polarization, righteousness to keep us engaged and coming back for more. All the feed algorithms, and headline formats and the cadence of notifications has some were embedded in its supply chain, its own Bliss Point team. So the coming deluge of content is not going to be accidentally addictive. That it actually is the product. And I want to say one more uncomfortable thing, a plethora of uncomfortable things.
Starting point is 00:12:30 In the physical world, fossil energy gave us armies of machine labor at immense scale. And that helped make our lives easier in many ways. And it also helped create conditions where our bodies could gradually drift towards being overfed and undernourished. And that was on top of freeing us for much of the physical labor that kept us naturally active for thousands of years, leading us to the sedentary life. lifestyles many of us lead today. So that dynamic compounded the damage of calorie rich, nutrient, poor food.
Starting point is 00:13:09 But now we're building armies of digital cognitive laborers. And they're going to make things easier too, but also introduce a rhyming vulnerability to the sedentary mind. So when AI armies handle the research and the synthesis and the writing of content, the cognitive muscles that used to be required for the effort and synthesis and all the things begin to atrophy. And Zach Stein and Nora Bateson talked about this in their recent reality roundtable. So I think this combined with being overfed ultra-process information makes it easier for our minds. minds to become disoriented and perhaps so disoriented we might feel lost. Same meta pattern from the economic superorganism, but now a different substrate, not machines
Starting point is 00:14:12 powered by fossil fuels, but machines for our minds powered by fossil fields and everything else. Some of you might be drawing a parallel thread here to the recent rise of weight loss drug, GLP1 and all its brand names. In the physical world, when our obesity crisis became undeniable, we didn't fix the food system. We overroated with a pharmaceutical appetite suppressant at scale with enormous profit, arguably involving some of the same entities who had a hand in creating the broader chronic health crisis. They didn't fix the problem. They managed the symptoms. So what might the cognitive GLP 1 be? Well, if we follow the logic of our physical system, it's likely going to come from AI itself, likely sold by the same company that created the
Starting point is 00:15:09 problem. I think the question becomes, do we want to wait for the cognitive GLP1 equivalent, or should we be building the discipline now as individuals, as a culture while we're still able to? So this was all a preample to my original planned, frankly, on agency. What do we do with this practically? As people trying to say sane in this rapidly changing world that most of us didn't sign up for, none of us can fact check the entire internet and none of us are going to keep up with the volume of information, let alone fact checking it. That's coming.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So I humbly suggest we need some sort of a first pass discipline, something we can run quickly in real time before we let a piece of content in the morning reshape our worldview or our nervous system. And there's a step before the filters and it's simpler than it sounds. Do I want to enter this current at all today? Do I actually need to swim in this right now? Because I think one of the most underrated skills in the coming years is going to be the ability to say no. To step on to the bank for a while and not swim.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And this is all about protecting your attention. And we're going to need cognitive discipline as well as caloric discipline. Next week I'm going to talk about agency. and this is part of what I mean by that. But if you do choose to swim, and most of us do because we're part of society, we want to know what's going on and be in the flow of information in our rapidly changing world, here are three questions that have been helping me lately. Is it true? Is it relevant? Is it useful? The first one is about contact with reality. In an AI world, we will get plausibility, polish, and confidence on demand.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But what stays expensive is, as I said before, the accuracy, the nuance, the tethered to reality. So when I see a claim that activates me, especially when it makes me feel righteous or afraid or more certain than I already was, I try to slow down just enough so I can say, can I trace this back to something real? Is there a primary source here that's somewhat legitimate? Is there data? And is there an institution or person with an actual reputation that has helped or hurt by this information? And if I can't answer it trace it quickly. I don't necessarily reject the information. I just put a big old handicap on it by treating it as unverified, so I don't pass it on or build on it. The second filter for this deluge of information is relevance. Even a true statement could be noise for you or for the world. And in a media
Starting point is 00:18:39 environment where the volume is going to explode, as my friends Aza Raskin and Tristan Harris have long said, attention will increasingly be the scarce resource. And if you spend your attention on things that don't change your decisions or your priorities or your understanding of what's going on in the world, you can end up both informed and less effective at the same time. So relevance means Does this deepen your real understanding or change the picture of what is actually shaping your life, your community, and for viewers of this channel, of the living world and the biosphere? Does it change what you think is likely? Does it change what you think you should do next? If it doesn't, it might still be interesting or entertaining.
Starting point is 00:19:36 But those are different things than nourishment. And at the crest of the carbon pulse, I think time is one of our most critical and depleting assets. So this is a question we're going to have to ask ourselves when we're flooded with all this stuff. And that leads me to the third filter, which is usefulness. And I mean that in the sense of orientation to the unfolding more than human predicament. useful information improves judgment. It helps us see tradeoffs and questions more clearly. And it might help us act with a little more wisdom under the constraints we're increasingly going to face.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Sometimes usefulness is very tiny and very local. It could mean just a stop in amplifying anger or polarization. or maybe taking a step closer to improving your relationships or your household resilience or your local place. And a piece of content on the internet can be both true and relevant but still fail this third filter if it primarily agitates you or polarizes you or trains you to perform and express certainty without actually making you more. capable on the things that matter. So these are just things I'm trying to be aware of as I stare at what I think is coming. And I'm really starting to fear for our epistemic comments, what we share that we think is true so that we can have collective conversations.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And I think these three simple filters are about how to achieve the, the mental equivalent of nourishment in an information environment that is going to be increasingly engineered for virality and attention, but the scale of it is about to explode. So going back to the food systems analogy, in an environment full of ultra-processed options, some dietary discipline becomes necessary if you want to become healthy. I say this as someone who is personally navigating a restricted diet right now and those impulses are hard to overcome. And the parallel is not lost on me with the cognitive laborers that are about to be cheap, abundant and everywhere. But similarly, actually extremely similarly, in an information environment full of ultra-processed content,
Starting point is 00:22:26 some cognitive discipline is going to become necessary if we want to stay oriented. insane. I'm going to get to agency and the Metacrisis next week, but with respect to AI and the coming dwarfing of signal by noise, I think personal practices still matter. And maybe they become paramount because each of us chooses what we ingest in this growing ocean of information. And each of us chooses what we pass along to other people. And then those choices, This is compound in our culture via conversations and such. In a world where words are about to become incredibly cheap, our careful attention may just become an expression of our ethics. Next week, tentatively titled Desperately Seeking Agency.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Talk to you soon. Hope you all are well.

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