The Greatest Generation - 2 Chaotic 2 Bro (S2E8)

Episode Date: May 18, 2016

When Riker takes a temp position on a Klingon ship, it’s ironically the Enterprise that contracts a venereal disease. While the Commander is attempting to arrange an interspecies three-way, the ship develops a rash and uncomfortable discharge. Fortunately, the sequel to Chaotic Bro is on the case. Will Wesley (the boy?) finally try vaping? Did that rust come from some bad decisions made in late-80s San Francisco? What does the Carfax report look like on the IKS Pagh? We might change the veto rule! This is madness!

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I'm Adam Pranaka. I'm not really embarrassed anymore, Ben. What I am is interested in getting a writing job on the new Star Trek series. So that's really what the show is about now. Interesting. So you've transitioned to seeing this as like a professional development play. Right, I'm manipulating the show into something that's like,

what can it do for me professionally? Besides being embarrassment. There is a new series of Star Trek coming out and I think they want it to be an anthology thing. So presumably we could both get jobs on like the third season scatological series. The butt stuff season. Yeah. Yeah.

Star Trek after dark. It'd be great if it worked out that way. The red shirt diaries. Look, they're going to want this to be good right out of the gates. But then subsequent seasons, who knows? Maybe they want to, maybe they can't get a Rob Bowman, for example. Maybe they want to, they want to throw the series at us for a while. Yeah, give it to the people. People will be excited about that.

Yeah, a couple of young upstarts that, you know, most of our bonafides are in making corporate video, but I feel like I've dissected the best episodes and the worst episodes of Star Trek 2 in extent that I feel pretty confident that if they put my hand on the tiller, I would know what to do. Look, I'd put my hands wherever they want them if it meant getting into that writer's room.

So this is episode 8 of season two, a matter of honor. Yeah, it's your basic Klingon Exchange program storyline, right? It sure is. So the Enterprise is arriving at a star base to pick up some people who are newly stationed on the ship and also some members of this exchange program. And it's I think I got a little confused about this to be honest at them. That like Riker takes Wesley down to the transporter bay and Mordock the chaotic bro from the episode,

coming of age, Beamson, and Leslie's like, what's up Mordock, what up? And Mordock is like, I'm not Mordock, I'm Mendon or something like this. And Wesley is halfway through a four step hand shake. It's just totally confusing Mendon right now. Yeah, Mendon's like, I'm gonna be down for that, but, but like, we don't know each other.

Like, not all Benzites look alike, okay? Yeah, everyone who uses a vape pen looks like an idiot, but they aren't the same person. I saw a guy today walking down the street just casually vaping. Yeah. And I was like, I don't even like using my phone in public. I don't know how anyone's okay with doing that.

Anyway, back to the story. No, before we get back to the story, I've noticed something in the last few days, I've been taking the ferry to get to work. Sure. And... Is that the big orange stat in Island ferry? No, unfortunately it's the Easter River ferry.

But I thought I spotted this the other day and I confirmed it today that the pilot of the ferry when the ferry pulls in at East 34th Street and you know it stays there for five minutes to let people get off and people get on. The pilot of the ferry typically steps out of the control room, the bridge if you will, and has a little vape on the second deck. Captain Josh. That's so dumb. Oh man. Why is his name Josh? I'm a fairy captain Jeremy. They called me J-Dog in college. The raspberry vape juice really keeps me concentrated on the horizon.

It's concentrated flavor and I am concentrating on the horizon. All right. So anyways, here's what confused me about this, this exchange program because Mendon is, is from a Benzite ship, but he's wearing a Starfleet uniform, right? Yeah. So he's got all these like unusual ideas about how we're gonna do running the ship and he's like really, he's, you know, he's a go getter.

He's a, he's a, he's a tryhard. Yeah. He's like one of those kids that like really, you really resent when they have like a presentation in social studies class in the 11th grade because he's coming in with like a try folding poster board, handouts, everything is color printed, looks super on point. You're like, this kid kid fucking parents helped him man That doesn't sound autobiographical at all

But He's wearing a Starfleet uniform and so it's like Is he in Starfleet and just from a different ship that's all Benzites or is he like from a Benzite ship and he's he's trying out a Starfleet ship and they give him a uniform because as we'll find out Riker goes on a cling on ship in this episode they don't give him a cling on uniform. Ah that would have been great. Wouldn't that have been good? The way I understood it was that this was a federation to federation exchange of personnel at this moment in time in the episode. And that men down was a federation person, as was the rest of the people who came on board at that moment.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what Ben's the benzene homeworld's status is in the Federation, I guess. That's really the question we need to answer. The the bro homeworld. Planet affliction. 69 moons. Nice. Our uniformer sleeve tats and dolphin shorts? So after Mendon straightens out Wesley, he comes aboard.

Yeah, he kind of gives him the, we don't all, like, we don't all look alike, do we? Like the sort of like quasi-racist talking to that Wesley gets from Mendon at that moment. Yeah, but like, like, Mendon scolds him, but he's a chill dude. He's not gonna hold it against him. Oh, he's super chill. So then Riker goes down and meets up with Picard in the Despuster Clubhouse. They do a little target practice.

And Picard. Despuster shooting range, yeah. Yeah. And Picard is like leading Ryker down a path of volunteering to go do a similar exchange program on a Klingon ship. And it's one of the first scenes where we see the real fondness that has developed between Riker and Picard. Their relationship started with Picard, really like pulling Rank on Riker in episode

one of the series, and I think they're like buddies now. They've gone from big docking each other to two dogs that used to fight that now just sort of sleep curled up against each other. They're friendly dogs at this point. I mean, I'm not saying that Picard doesn't hump riker dog every so often, but... Sure, you gotta show him who's boss, who's captain. Yeah. This whole idea comes off as pretty impulsive to me. Like, they're shooting the dots in the phaser range.

The cards like, yeah. So this exchange program seems like something that we could export to different areas and different races. What would you think about maybe doing an exchange program on a Klingon ship and Rikers like, yeah, that sounds cool? The cards like, no, what would you think about doing a Klingon exchange?

And Rikers like, yeah, that sounds pretty dope. And then the card's like, no, no, no, no, what would you? You. You. Rikers like, I get it, yeah, yeah, I'm in. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Funny juxtaposition this scene with the talk of going and working on a Klingonship

because you just cannot imagine the Klingons having any similar, like, Disruptor range on their ship, with the like, bright, primary color dots that you have to bullseye with your with your dustbuster, you know? Yeah, I'm sure they use like live targets in a in a Klingon shooting range. Yeah, they like they let a wild targo and see who can hit it first. Very conveniently, there is a Klingon ship nearby, with which to do the exchange program. I love when that happens.

Yeah, I know. I mean, they come up with an idea and they're able to implement it almost immediately. And this is the Pog. Pog? Pach. Pach. It's, uh, you spelled the same way as Gach, but with a P. It's gonna be a super flemmy episode, isn't it?

So Ryker does a couple of things to prepare for the exchange program. First and foremost He conducts a sort of Andrew Zimmern tour of Klingon food. Yeah, by going to ten forward and like Getting down on a buffet of just like worms. Yeah, he orders the menu. Yeah, he does. It was claw. This is hard of targ. There's of course, his goga.

Goga? Everybody from the ship has to come by and make a comment at how gross it all is. And you know, they had fun art directing this, you know, lots of squid tentacles and... Lots of colors and textures and sounds. Yeah, I mean, it was good. And I definitely spotted immediately that his gach wasn't moving.

So it was fun for me later on when they tried to feed it to him on the cling on ship and he was like, oh, it's wriggling. He does that thing though in eating all of this cling on food. I don't know if it's just a thing that he does when he eats something gross, but he does that lifted up above his head and drop it into his mouth move to eat food. That's just like quintessentially riker. Yeah, he unveiled that particular bit of flair in the conspiracy episode with the worms. Yeah. Yeah, I guess maybe that's like a secondary riker maneuver in a way.

Yeah, yeah. He likes to get real sloppy when he's eating. So the other thing he does to prepare is has a little wrap session with Worf in the hallway and and you know Worf kind of kind of gives him the lowdown about how how shit works on a Klingon ship. If if the captain is is deemed by the first officer to be incompetent to execute his duties it is incumbent on the first officer to kill the captain and take over. And Warf really has a lot of respect for the system. He's like, yeah, it's worked for hundreds of years.

I don't see any particular flaws in it. And so, you know, Rikers, he's like an actor preparing for a role, you know? Interested in the motivations and how to kind of fit in. Warf is like doing that thing. Like, Rikers going to a different country, so he's asking the guy from the country, like, what he needs to be doing there to fit in. Like, that seems pretty sensible, right? Fair enough. The other thing that Warf does, though,

is he starts track sixism. He gives him the secret signal sender that he can hide in his boot, right? Yeah, he gives him like a double-a battery that has the label taken off. And it's like a transponder. We will be able to follow the captain's movements. How did you achieve this, sir? Time is precious lieutenant. You know, it's like whenever James Bond is getting gadgets at the beginning of the of the film

You you're just like trying to picture the scenario in which he's gonna use the laser beam on the watch to To get out of a scrape and You know, this is this is a similar situation. It's a pavle check of shotgun on the wall type of deal. Right, exactly. This is becoming a speech. You're the captain, so very entitled. I'm going to type a ramble on about something everyone knows. with all of this information and this little James Bond utensil on his person. He goes to the transporter room and gets ready to go and O'Brien basically like...

I don't even know how to describe what O'Brien does to him in the transporter room, but he hops up to the transporter all happy and ready to go. And O'Brien's basically like, enjoy your suicide mission, idiots. Good luck, come on. Thanks, O'Brien. I wouldn't want to go. And Riker basically, all he has time to say is, what? And then O'Brien beams him away

before he can finish his thought. Which is great. So good. O'Brien must really enjoy that, like saying something fucked up and then beaming the person away before they have a chance to respond. Right, yeah.

Never done this before, what? Beaming? Hi, I actually have no idea where I'm beaming you, blue. Blue. It's like, I've have no idea where I'm beaming you, blue. It's like, I've seen like YouTube videos of guys that operate carnival rides where they like drop a bunch of bolts and nuts on the floor and go like, oh no, right before they throw the switch

and like shoot people off into the wild blue yonder. That's great. Yeah. Yeah, that's what O'Brien does here. It's the only way to stay entertained in that transporter bay. So, Riker appears in basically the toughest leather bar on the galaxy. And like, in addition to just how it looks, like it looks like a leather bar, it's super dark, there's like red. Smokey. Yeah, it's smokey.

It also sounds like the constant sound of chains being dropped on a steel floor is how it sounds at all times. It's just loud and clanky. Yeah, their engine is not as finely tuned as the enterprises. It's really like the Volkswagen Beetle of starships. Clearly diesel powered.

You know like in in submarine movies, you get like the often you get like the contrast between the nuclear submarine and the diesel submarine. That's the contrast we get when Riker goes from the enterprise to the park. Yeah. Pretty early in his appearance on the Klingonship, the second officer, Klaag, is really starting to kind of test Riker's boundaries and test his commitment to the challenge he

has taken up. And it winds up being that Riker has to like sucker punch him and knock him to the floor. They ordered him to shut the fuck up and leave him alone. He does that thing where he like accepts an insult, like a virt his eyes for a moment and then like beats his ass. Which is sort of like, I'm a little surprised that that isn't such an obvious telegraph of what's about to happen, right?

Yeah, you would think a clinging, I guess a clinging on probably would never like faint away from a fight. Yeah. So maybe that's a total new one on, on flag. Like he's never seen this particular stunt pulled in any bar fight. Yeah, but Riker basically acts like he gets the vapors and they're like stiffens up and kicks the shit out of him. Yeah. And he really like a little fiasco. Yeah, I think Jonathan Franks is starting to demonstrate himself to be like he can really sell a fight.

Yeah, a couple times this season they've given him like compound fates scenes with like multiple moves like the guy can do it So before before the Klingons head off to do whatever the Klingons are gonna do our buddy chaotic bro to chaotic to bro Does some does some scanning and electric bro galoo Does some scanning it discovers some Does some scanning it discovers some poopy on the back of the Klingon ship? There's like a little shit stain on there.

It's a bacterial wet spot. Yeah. And it doesn't seem too out of place when he describes it. Like initially it's like, oh yeah, that ship's a total ship pile. Yeah, I mean, this is like the same type of Klingon ship that the, uh, that the crew of the enterprise, a, uh, Jack in search for Spock and rename the bounty. Right. And fly to San Francisco 1987 or whatever. Um, yeah, you know, any ship spends too much time in San Francisco, They're gonna come back with something.

Yeah, some rust on the hall. Yeah, as it as it were But it's a rusty looking ship to begin with, you know, yeah, I don't know what the service life of one of these Klingon ships is, but this has got to be near the end of this one. Yeah. And they have not been strapping it up before they do their penetrating. It's really the perfect ship for Riker in that way. Like, my immune system may not even be equal to this challenge, but I'm going to give it a try. So the B storyline involves Cargon like doing the scan and he finds the wet spot. You mean Mendon? Or yeah, do you mean Mendon?

What did I say? Cargon. Damn it. This is going to be that kind of episode, doesn't it? Yeah, well, there's a lot of crazy alien names in this app. Yeah, so Mendon does the scan and then doesn't say anything about it. Yeah. And there's a lot of like, like, like, like, Mendon's whole thing on the ship is that he has, he's like,

going around and like, looking at people's Instagram panels and going, like, oh, really nice layout. You got there. That's really efficient. You know, I could give you a couple pointers about how to make it even better, though. And then, and at one point, he like grabs Picard's, you know, the sleeve of Picard's uniform as he's walking by and he goes, oh, by the way, I'm in the exchange program and I have some ideas on how to like, you know,

get your ship in, you know, a little bit more of an efficient working order. And, yeah, he's kind of like, Remick without rank. Like, he's just annoying to everyone as Remick was. Right, and without the weight of a round-house ad role behind him, because when he grabs the card for this, like, nobody has ever been big-ducked, it's bad.

You have an excellent record, and however here on the end of the prize, we use the chain of Kama. You will report your observations to Lieutenant Wharf. I beg your pardon captain I just wanted to impress upon your name. No need to apologize, Ensom. We should have explained it better to you at your indoctrination. Yeah he big dogs the shit out of Mendon and then Wharf immediately after Big Dogs and

it's like a tag team Big Dog. Yeah he's like a like you wharf you take over on the big dogging and see that I don't have to big dog this little Welp anymore. So as the enterprise flies away, at some point they kind of realize that they too have a little smear the poopy on their ship. And they're like, what is this? And I was like, oh, by the way, they have the same stuff on that klingon ship. And they're like, why didn't you tell anybody while the klingons were still here?

And he's got like a cultural difference here. He's like, I didn't finish my analysis. I didn't know exactly what it was. So I didn't bring it up because that's just not how you do it. Yeah, Mendon basically does the, you've been tested, right? After doing it. Right.

Yeah. He's got everything backwards. He's not somebody that you want the con to break with. Put it that way. For a lot of reasons. Yeah, so they're like, whoa, well, if we've got it and that Klingon ship's got it, the Klingon ship is actually determined

to be in some trouble. Right, because this is a countdown. It's a race against the clock because it's going to ruin their ship. Right, it's a bacteria that eats hull plating and the compounds that the bacteria consumes are in a higher quantity in the Klingon hull than in the Enterprise's hull.

So the Klingons are more fucked than the Enterprise even and are not even aware of the problem. Yeah, it really loves eating garbage can lids, and that's basically what that cling on ship is made out of. Yeah. Maybe they picked it up when they landed on those garbage cans in a foige home. Had to be.

San Francisco. I was born there. The Clions must have gotten that chip back after Kirk and the gang return with the whales, right? Like, possible that the Pach is the HMS bounty recristened. Yeah, I'd really be interested in doing the car facts on that cling on chip and seeing where it ended up. Yeah.

It ended up in an auction in like Cincinnati It was bought by some like Dealer in the bad part of town This is not a few fender benders, but uh, you know Low mileage, I mean it's been through time a few times, but it's clearly been around that's for sure So the Klingon crew, meanwhile, has also discovered this organism and there also, you know, like there's a lot of like fish out of water stuff going on with Riker. There's a fun moment in the in the in the Klingon mess hall when two of the Klingon females

propose a three way with Riker and everybody watching is just going like they have no idea what they're in for. Like they think that this is a hilarious gambit and they are fucked if they try this at all. Talk about propositioning the all-time worst person for a three-some. Yeah, it's like picking a fight with somebody at a bar and he stands up and he's like seven feet tall. Yeah, that's it.

Riker is 10 feet tall sexually. And he also does a good job impressing people in the Klingon cafeteria. Like he's eating all of their food, like in a real, like he's demonstrating that he's down. He's down with anything. Like he's eating the live gach. Yeah, and to the extent that like the second officer and the science officer, whatever, you know, like start talking to him like about some real personal shit, you know, one of them says,

like, my dad didn't die in battle, which is a big shame for my family, and I don't talk to him anymore. And you know, things, things used to be a lot better between me and the old man and and Rikers got some thoughts about that and you're like like you know like what are you talking about man he's like well maybe that's what this whole exchange program can be for is like some some cultural you know like you take the good stuff from my culture I'll take the good stuff from your culture. And by good stuff, I mean a lot of fucking. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha is at this point opened up a pretty sizable hole in their hull, deep-pressurized a section. And they're like, this is fucked, especially with those. But we were even noticed when we got the rest

of their ship looks. But they do notice. And they're pretty pissed off because they are looking at the records and they're like, wow, the enterprise actually pointed a scanning beam right at this section of the ship for a extended period of time. Riker, do you happen to know what kind of scanning beam

that was? And, you know, Riker's in a tough spot. He's got to like, he's got to like, soft pedal, you know, like that's a need to know basis type of thing. If the federation had a way to scan a hull into Decompiling, you know, he wouldn't want to admit that they do or don't, but he also... And not only that, like, why would they do something intentionally to hurt the ship that Rikers gonna be on?

Right. Like, it doesn't make any sense from that perspective either. I guess it doesn't, any sense from that perspective either. I guess it doesn't, but the, the klingons don't really think along those lines, you know? No. No. That's not the kind of calculus they're doing. And there's a real, like, a real dispute over where his loyalty's lie. And he's like, I'm not gonna go against any previous oath I've taken, but my loyalty

is to this ship and it's captain. And I will live up to that as in so far as it doesn't compromise any oath I've previously taken. Cargon, the captain of the puck is like getting angrier and angrier and louder and louder. Did he sound familiar to you? As he was doing that? Yeah, I'm gonna say yeah. If he did, it's because he star-screened

from Transformers, the cartoon. That's no joke, same guy. It's cool to read, bro. Yeah. I think the second officer is a guy that's like a Repeat villain in the ex files also. He's the guy with the muscle face. Yeah. Yeah, that guy is a crazy face Great face. He's got a face that looks like you know those those Eagles claw hand Exercise or things that are like five springs. Yeah, that you just squeeze. Yeah, It looks like someone who has attached that to his face and is like doing smile, frown exercises

with that hooked into his face is just full of muscles. It's great. His upper lip could, whoop, Sylvester Stallone's ass in an arm wrestling contest. Just lip versus arm wrestling. Yeah. Nice. Fightin' way above its weight.

I don't like Lincoln Hawks chances in that particular fight. So the Klingons cloak and they're like, they're like, fuck the Enterprise. They're also following us now because Picard has put them on an intercept course to try and warn the Klingons about this bacteria and the, like the Klingons are just wired to interpret that as a hostile action, but you know, since they haven't had any communications

from the enterprise. And there's a real like, a moment where you think like maybe this Klingon chip is going to attempt to take the enterprise out and while it is a smaller ship and kind of outclassed by the enterprise if they take them by surprise they might they might actually be able to do it. So wouldn't you know it the The Starfleet Transponder battery comes in handy. Riker pulls it out of his boot and just like sets it going. And the captain's like, give me that.

What is that? And it takes it. The enterprise picks up on the signal and beams him right onto the bridge. So this big fat captain goes from his like, his, you know, dark, you know, red lights and smoke rusted out ship to the bright, the bright lights of the Enterprise bridge deck. And it's revealed to just be kind of a portly man in a dress.

And he tries to draw his disruptor. Yeah, his ship is very slimming on him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he just, he looks better in a certain light. Yeah. But he tries to shoot the captain and wore phasers him down. And dude, say what you will about what an idiot Cargon is. The guy really went for it. Like, he's trying to, he's full on ready to fight the enterprise and die doing it. He gets beamed onto the enterprise and then just start shooting people while he's there.

Yeah, he's like, the guy's a total badass. Yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's the puck at this point. He's like, I'm your captain now. Yeah. Like, respect me. And he gets into the big chair. He declokes the ship and demands the Enterprise surrender to them. And Picard is like, all right, nice one, nice one, nice one, Frakes, We Cylinder, good, good on you. And that's pretty much it.

Like they, you know, cleanse the, cleanse the hull of the bacteria. And for the most part, everybody's honor is more or less intact because, you know, nobody, nobody did pulled any any weak sauce moves, which is a big deal with Klingons. I guess there are a few things we don't get resolution on. I don't think and correct me if I'm wrong. We don't know whatever happens to Cargon. Was he killed on the bridge of the enterprise? I don't think so. No, he was just stunned. Yeah. And whatever happened to him.

Because remember he like beams back over and like and like Molly Wops, like her. That's right. That's right. And gets back onto the bridge. That's right. So cut all that out. We don't get any resolution on the deep, deep, deep like G storyline, which is like the deep, deep, deep like G storyline, which is like Mendon, right? Yeah. Like he, he fucks up every relationship he makes on board the enterprise.

And then I guess he's gonna get exchanged back to where he came from, right? Because he sucks. Presumably? Hope so. Or maybe just like moved off the bridge. I don't know. Yeah, that guy, that guy was a waste. Doesn't seem like he's learning enough lessons.

I'll put it that way. He looks like, whoever that actor is looks like he's got the most uncomfortable makeup job of anyone we've seen. I don't know how you breathe in that thing. Yeah, and I don't know if you noticed this, but he's got like a mock turtle neck under his uniform to like make the uniform neck come up a little higher on the makeup.

And you got to think that that's just because like they didn't want to bring the latex all the way down to his chest. Yeah, that's got to be like going to the craft services table. It's got to be a real hassle in that makeup. Yeah, your meals are just through a straw at that point. No doubt. Dommok and Yelad, and Dinnaga. Dommok and Yelad, and Dinnaga.

As you were watching, did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? DRAWNCHIMODO! DRAWNCHIMODO! I don't think that I don't think I could pick anybody but chaotic bro to electric Boo-Galoo. I think that electric bro-Galoo. Oh, excuse me. Too chaotic, too, bro. That's cool, right?

Where we just do the same jokes that we did earlier in the episode. I don't think anyone's still listening. Oh, that's fair point. Uh, you know, just, uh, just really, Shimoda's around the whole damn episode and, uh, I enjoyed watching it. I thought for sure you were going to say that it could be no one else but Riker. Riker to me is, is maybe the most quintessentially Shimoda who isn't actually Jim Shimoda.

Like, he is full on, like, he eats the Klingon buffet on his own ship. He's basically showing off how awesome he is and how gross he's willing to get culinary. And then basically the first order of business when he goes to the Klingon ship is like, initiating and accepting a three way. And then he does the drunk thing where he like really bonds super fast with two strangers,

which is like kind of so, that's like a drunk guy moving it apart. You like you get hammered and you, uh... You guys are amazing. We should hang out all the time. Oh, you're so, my dad's like that drunk guy move it apart. You get hammered and you... You guys are amazing. We should hang out all the time. Oh, you're so... My dad's like that too, man. Like, he basically does the seven stages of drunk Shimoda in one episode. I thought it was awesome. It was excellent Shimoda-ing by Riker.

Yeah. Okay. Good job by him. We can agree to disagree. We often do. What is our next episode of the series that we're going to be watching? Our next episode is... Well, assuming no vetoes get invoked, our next episode is season two, episode nine. Measure of a man. When data refuses to be disassembled for research purposes, Picard is enlisted to defend his rights in court. How funny would it be if I vetoed this episode?

This episode is one of the most famous episodes of the series. It's one of the most beloved, it's one of the most memorable. This is an episode that gets like used in law schools. Totally. It's fantastic. It's objectively great. Yeah. Well, are you going to veto? Maybe I'll veto.

That would be so funny. What a fuck you now. Here's the question. I mean, I guess I can't really know, but if I vetoed, would you override? Because we can use our vetoes against each other. I don't think that we should tell each other that. I think that should be part of the risk. We had a pretty interesting suggestion about, like, if one of us vetoes the other has

to watch it. Yeah, I liked that idea too, because it sort of weaponizes the veto in a way that like makes it more fun to use. That's sort of like, I don't like this episode, and I don't care if you do. Go ahead and watch it, I don't care. Like, it's that sort of thing.

Yeah. Like, it's I veto the episode for myself. Right. I just sort of wonder like how the subsequent episode goes, because like, is it one of us just doing like a book report on an episode of Star Trek we watched? That would be so awkward, but it would be, I would be really curious to hear how that sounds.

Like you do your own drops, you do your own jokes, like it's like a one-man morning drive DJ. Yeah. Well, what do you think? Do we change the rule? Like it's a minor tweak to the rules? I mean, there's nothing that's going to piss off the note to the veto movement more. Look, no matter what, I'm in favor of keeping the vetoes.

I think what we're talking about here is like what form they take. If it involves either it solos the other person onto the show. Or I think we also heard from who proposed this idea, the other person hosts with a guest. Like they. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't see that one. I think that idea was from Adam Rekusia, who proposed like an... Host of the pub podcast, an excellent podcast about public radio.

Friend of the show, Adam Rekusia said that maybe it just means that the person vetoing bales, throws the keys to the show to the other host, and then they take on a special guest host. The reason I don't like that Ben is because what if you pick a guest host that people like better than me? I don't want that. Well you could pick a guest host that people like better than me. That would not be hard. I don't know. That would make me real sad. Everyone's all on a greatest gen that's like oh oh God, Ben and Chad are awesome. Ben and Chad forever. Okay, let's throw this to the listeners. Should we A, move forward as we currently have it, B, move to a system where if one of us vetoes the other has to watch it alone and then report back, or see, move to a system where,

if one of us vetoes, the other one has to watch it with a guest and then talk about it with a guest on an episode. And I should say for those second two, the veto nullification is still available, like if one of us... Okay, so mutually assured vetoes means that nothing happens and you just watch the show

as, as before. Okay. That's what I was going to ask is if, is if mutually assured vetoes, like does the same stuff. So, okay. I think I would be interested in hearing what the response is to those three choices. Yeah. I think I could live with all of them.

I could live with all of them too. I think the two second options are interesting modifications to the system. So tell you what, let's run this vote on hashtag greatest gen. Yeah. People can respond with what they would prefer. And we will count them up after how long.

You want to run this poll for like two weeks? Give people who are sort of catching up and they sort of binge the show. Oh, what if one of us wants to veto within that two weeks though? I don't know, I guess that's the risk we run. I guess we want to sit in that chair. So go to hashtag greatest gen.

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