The Greatest Generation - A Clip Show Inside A Clip Show Inside A Clip Show (Welcome to the Greatest Generation!)

Episode Date: October 21, 2021

Listen to The Greatest Generation today! We've reviewed every single episode of Star Trek The Next Generation and Star Trek Deep Space Nine, and we're currently working our way through Star Trek Voyager.And listen to The Greatest Discovery as well! It's our new Star Trek podcast covering all the new series, from Discovery and Picard to Lower Decks and Prodigy. We also have episodes where we interview cast members, return to old episodes from TOS and TAS, and explore the cultural impact of Star Trek on culture, but, you know, with jokes.

Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Welcome! Welcome, welcome to the greatest generation it's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison and this is a very special episode. Maybe it's your first episode listening to us.

Yeah, we say welcome at the top of every show and I think it's never been more. You've never been more welcome than you are today. Then this specific episode, what could be many people's first episode? God, what if that works? What if we get new listeners at them? What would that be like? That's a dragon we've been chasing for years. Never caught it.

So yeah, we were asked by our beloved network, maximumfund.org, to make an episode that would be a intro to our show. And that was kind of a curveball. We were not expecting this as a project. And now you and I have lived the last couple months extremely busy self-producing our show and recording a number of episodes. But maximum fun presupposes is that maybe we have the bandwidth for an extra show just for them.

A couple of extra stuff. Yeah, but anyways, so we're here to try and introduce ourselves and our show to you a perspective listener, maybe you're not even listening during the Max Fun block party, maybe you're listening years from now. After our inevitable deaths. Well, do you want to talk about who we are for a second, Adam, and then what we do? Yeah, I mean, you and I met many years ago and it was our shared love of Star Trek, the next generation that brought us together. We didn't really know each other at that point. Like our friendship was built on the foundation of Star Trek and as we got to know

each other better over that next year, we started to joke around a lot about our shared knowledge of this show and agreed that it might make a really fun project to do as a podcast. Yeah. And so if you are the kind of person that is a completionist and you want to go back to the original episodes of this show, I've been the original and unremastered, pre-Lukus fucked out versions of our show. I've been going through a lot of old episodes over the last couple of days to get the show sheet ready

for this record and listening to some of those old ones. It's very mixed emotions, obviously, because as any creative person will tell you, your early work sometimes makes you cringe, you see the things that you would have done differently if you had to do it over again. Also, it's very fun and charming to hear us talking about, oh, we're recording these episodes dark and we're never going to release them. And we don't we don't anticipate anyone will ever listen to this show that has now become our full-time jobs. Yeah, that's really the truth. So yeah, I mean, we've been on this ride for about five years now.

And the greatest generation is a Star Trek podcast that has now has a spin off in the greatest discovery. And we've worked our way through Star Trek the next generation and Deep Space Nine. And as of this recording, we're just getting into Voyager or in season two right now. And as the Star Trek industrial complex keeps cranking them out, so to will we, long into the future. Yeah, so and that's what the greatest discovery was started to accommodate is our reviews of all the new Star Trek shows.

So I mean, I think of the two shows as being very much companions to each other. So hopefully if you're listening to this, you'll give both of them a try. Yeah. Yeah, mostly because the network asked for a intro episode for every show and we're doing one for both. Yeah, we had to put our foot down somewhere. I just think it back to like the early days of us making the greatest generation. And my wife had quit her lawyer job to go work in politics for literally zero money. She like took a job that was three months at a salary of nothing.

And at that time, we were living in New York, and so I was like crap, I need to get like a salaried job so that we don't like misrent and stuff because I was a freelance video producer at the time as were you. And I talked about the greatest generation in my job interview for the job I eventually got. I can't believe you got that job. I can't do that.

That's usually a career killer. Yeah, but my boss who was a great guy and is still a friend, is a fan of Star Trek. He put it to me this way. He said, God, that is such a great idea for a podcast, just having a beer with a bud talking about an episode of Star Trek you just watched. That's always distilled what the show is to me. I mean, like we try to like take it somewhat seriously and give a review at the ends of episodes,

but also you and I are both film production people by training and by trade. Right, and that's an experience we bring to every show as well. Yeah, so it's a mix of that stuff and also us just being goofballs and joking around and trying to make each other laugh. And so the idea for this intro episode that we had was maybe we would go back through some clips of old episodes and kind of show our work, some favorite bits that have become kind of part of the DNA of the show. And, uh, and, uh, you know, survey that stuff for a new listener. And also, uh, just kind of like re-examine that stuff for ourselves. That sounds like fun. Yeah, I mean, this project has had like what?

More than 500 episodes combined. Oh, yeah, easy. And, yeah, there definitely is a language. There are a couple of good ones in there. Yeah. Well, what we've done is we've found the four best jokes from those 500 episodes. So the other thing that is like absolutely mind blowing to me is that we started as a twice

weekly show. Yeah, that was a great idea by us. We surveyed the podcast landscape and saw the comments that we would receive right away when we started putting out episodes, which was, why are you doing a Star Trek podcast? There are already many Star Trek podcasts out there. Yeah. And so, and so one of the ways we saw to fit in was to build the library of episodes as fast as possible because the existing shows out there were already into the hundreds and we

were like, well, if we want to be legitimate, we need to get to a hundred episodes as soon as possible. And so that's why we went twice a week for the entire run of greatest generation. Yeah, the next generation. Yeah, and I think that we were also thinking about binge watching as a, if you want to watch the next generation, there's nothing stopping you from watching another episode after you finish one.

So if we are, and I feel like binge watching was very like trendy, 2016 in a way that it's a little bit more eye-rolled now. Yeah. If you've never heard an episode of the greatest generation before, you'll probably find out very quickly that this is the sort of podcast

with a explicit lyrics sticker on it. Yeah. Like, so that was another aspect to our show that I think distinguished itself is that like we do Vier into the dick and fart joke pretty regularly. We do use profanity all the time We are drunk on many episodes So if those are aspects to your podcast consumption That that you find abhorrent. Yeah But I know a lot of people do. Yeah.

Maybe you try a different Star Trek podcast besides this one. Don't try this one and then leave a bad review. Yeah. You've been warned. Yeah. That's sort of the deal with Star Trek, right? Infinite types of podcasts, infinite amount of diversity. Yeah, and language or otherwise. And in our case, infinite dicks. Right. I am a Qt is a ball. Block pages are met by the sun.

I am a Qt is a ball. There are four lights. This was a show that we really kind of invented on the fly and came up with stuff on the fly. We built the dick jokes as we were flying them. Yeah. And one of our segments that we've really become known for is the Drunk Shemota segment

toward the end of every episode. And that happened in episode two of season one of Star Trek the Next Generation. So this is the moment that gave us the drunk Shremota segment. Riker and the chief engineer lady are racing to get the force field down so that they can get into the section of engineering and get the ship started up again. The stars getting closer and closer to collapsing. And they finally get it down

and they realize that all of these isolinear chips that control the warp engine, I guess, have been pulled out by Drunk Shemota. And there's, it's gonna take hours to put them all back in, because there's hundreds of them. Can we get a drunk Shimoda, Weird Aliankvic song, like my Shirona. We gotta do that drop in this episode.

Oh yeah. Should we just train riff a couple of bars? Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh that episode, which is pretty nuts. That's great. I think that's the earliest drop. That's the most... I'm glad I took my sound baffling a little more seriously later on. Yeah. Yeah, there's some episodes of that show where I was like up in New Hampshire

because my wife was working on like a presidential primary. So I'm like in the basement of some lady's house with like a microphone plugged into my iPad and they, the sound can be a little bit rough, let's just say. Yeah, I think that's, I mean, what people have told us over the years is that that's part of the fun. And it's not just that, that technically we've gotten better as podcasters. It's that jokes that we crafted, I'm putting that word in quotes. In the very beginning of our show is run, we continue to do and references that we began making years

and years ago are still ones that we make today. It makes for a pretty satisfying experience to see the whole thing come together over a period of years. Yeah, and I mean, there's plenty of other jokes that we've blessedly retired. Sure. Yeah, they don't all live forever. One that has also stuck around for a long time

is the word knuck, which is a abbreviation of moose knuckle, which in those, especially in early seasons of Star Trek, the next generation, but also all through Deep Space Nine and Voyager, to be honest. The costume department turned out a lot of outfits for male characters that showed off some dong in a pretty eye-catching way. And there's that episode justice where they go to the planet

where everybody is super chill and fucks unless you make one mistake and then you're immediately put to death. Right. And that episode, I believe in Arshad was entitled Rock and Nuck and the next clip. This next clip I want to play just because I thought it was a very funny, like, it was a very funny example of like the way we dealt with blowback early on, which is like, different from the way we deal with blowback now. I like interesting. Like when we get, like, you know, like when you, when you put something out in the world and you get a shitty comment,

it can sting. And I feel like we have learned a ton about like how to best handle that over the years. I think this is an example of with a special message for you. First of all, we just want to thank everyone for all of the nice reviews we've received over the last week especially. But something was brought to our attention, Ben, and I think you're the best person to address it. I'm very upset about this, Adam. Some person has gone on iTunes and left a review that takes exception to our usage of the term moose knuckle in the episode about the Edo in which Wesley is running around with the kids and falls into the flower patch and is nearly put the death over it.

Let me read to you the message bin that we got on our iTunes review with Subtitline Moose Nuckle, one star by Jimbo925. Hey, Beavis and Butthead, Moose Nuckle is used for a woman's private parts. Not a man's, think about it. I really don't agree with that. I think that if anything, Moose Nuckle refers to any situation in which pants are bunched up around genitalia in an amusing way. And if you go on Urban Dictionary,

I feel like that corroborates what I feel about the term. I mean, yeah, you actually have an urban dictionary account. Like, you actually have to log into urban dictionary. That's how into it you are. I just feel like this is a huge miscarriage of justice. And if I just don't think that we should have to suffer this one-star review because some idiot doesn't like our usage of the term mousse knuckle.

In many ways, it's my favorite review we've ever gotten, but I don't like that it's only one star. All right, the only way I can see to claw back at some justice for us is if everybody listening right now goes to iTunes and leaves a nice five star review to bury this essentially. Yeah, let's hold it underwater until the bubble stop. Yeah, and go ahead and go find that review and it asks if the review was helpful. Click no and report a concern. If anybody is rock and knuck, it's this guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

So let's get this thing wiped off the page. I think it's a bunch of bull crap. Do the right thing, listener. Go to iTunes, help the greatest generation write this horrible, horrible wrong. Alright, we'll get you back to the show now. Thanks, guys. Wow, if we only took that kind of time for the number of comments we received lately. Jeez.

If I personally wrote back or recorded a message for everyone who had a problem with the show because they didn't get the joke, they would be a full time job. Yeah. The podcast with Long ago have turned into just us addressing. Yeah, that exact kind of post. I mean, it's funny, like those early days, like there were definitely people that really like, like made a point of like getting in our faces about it.

And I feel like either I've gotten better at not noticing that or those people have gotten quieter. But definitely there was a kind of Star Trek fan that like could not ramp the mind around that the show being sort of comedy oriented. Right, because what we learned very early by and large, I think initially when we started putting out the show, we heard from a lot

of people who take Star Trek very seriously. And what happened not long after that was a slower growing grounds well of people who had felt this way about Star Trek all along, who had never really found other people who saw fit to make fun of the thing that they loved the way we do. And so we we found out after a period of months, you know, just how many more people are interested in laughing with us about the show, then taking it very, very seriously. Yeah, I mean, we take it seriously, too. It's just that we have a lot of fun talking to each other and moving each other laugh. Right. If other people can enjoy that too, that's that rules.

So this next clip that I queued up is one that I have a very fond memory of this episode. It's the episode where Wurf is bumming out and it's because there's something like ceremony that he's supposed to do and they set it up for him in the holodack and it's like this like really like sweet friendship moment between some of the some of the bridge officers and wharf. And I have I remember the thing I remember fondly about the episode is that it was a really like collaborative edit between the two of us. Like I think I was in the driver's seat on the edit, but it was a tough thing to get figured out exactly how to work the scene that we're about to play.

You and I went back and forth a bunch and in getting it dialed in and figured out, I think we both learned some big stuff about what our show sounds like and what kinds of things we do in post production. And it's a very heavily edited show. It may, I don't know, some episodes may sound more edited than others, I guess, but we make hundreds and hundreds of edits per episode. And it's something that we've always taken really seriously.

So this was, this is like a one that I think back on as having been like a big growth moment for me in learning how to edit, but it's also comedy that kind of like comes into the show in the editing process. Like we didn't talk about it ahead of time. It was like an idea that came up in post production and like we figured out how to make it work. As a creative project, I think it's so much more satisfying to have that split work the way you're describing. Yeah.

Like we have from the start edited every other episode, you and I. And we always QA the episodes collaboratively. You're always trying to make my edits funnier. I'm always trying to do the same with yours. Like it's- What can't be done. My edits are so fucking fun. Yeah, they're perfectly formed by the time they ever get hurt by me. But yeah, and I think for projects you do with friends that last an extremely long time, I think, you know, a lot of people have asked us at live shows like how how do you do this? How do you how do you do this with a friend specifically? And I think we were fortunate to begin with that kind of equilibrium of equal effort at all times.

You've described it before as both of us going 60% of the way. Yeah. And I think that is absolutely what we do and what we've done for the entire run. So this is that clip. This is like an old time favorite of mine. Worf Sparmytspa is it involves him walking down this central channel as the Klingon Warriors standing above him hit him with the the painsticks. My travel, the river of blood! No!

No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!

We just got an email from a listener who found his worth toy from when he was a kid, like the Worf Action figure, included some painsticks, and he took a picture of these and they're just like comically dildonic looking in the in the Kenner plastic representation of them. There is no other thing they could be besides giant dildos. Like they must have like repurposed them from some Hentai action figure from Japan, right? You know, like they're like oh we got a bunch of purple dildos that scale to being about four feet long. What are we going to do with them? I don't know. Throw them in with the warf toys and make them

painsticks or something. Oh, man. And this, he sets it up in a little diorama where it's like warf and riker and they're both staring at each other, holding these giant dildos. It's kind of a perfect scene. Yeah, it's like, it's like Worf and Riker have made one holodeck program that they can both really get into.

Imagine the scenes you could act out with those figures and those props. It's really beautiful. Yeah. So he just walks down the middle of this channel and gets painstackified and yells a lot of shit in English and clinging on. The idea is that you're supposed to confide your your innermost feelings at those moments. So you say something that's very personal to you and then you get stabbed. And then you do it again and again and again

until you arrive at the end where John Tessh, it's you with the pan stick, John Tessh and Klingon Regalia, it's you with the pan stick. This is true. Did you know this plays one of the Klingons in this scene? Holy shit. Yeah. Entertainment tonight's John Tash. Anyways. Klingon John Tash. That was one of our rare moments of actually doing research on an episode to reveal a fun guest star. You and I over the years have really enjoyed the many interesting and unusual guest stars that Star Trek has had over the years. John Tash being one of them. So wild.

John Tash. You think Yani was ever in an episode just kind of secretly? How would we know? They bury their guests under all that loaf. Yeah. That would never happen today. Like today it would be like, you're gonna be in the episode

and then we need you to tweet about it 400 times. And like we're gonna do promoted tweets about how Lil Nas X is playing an Andorian in the background of this episode. Yeah, there's no getting away with it these days. No. Uh, so Adam, people may be surprised to learn Yeah, there's no there's no getting away with it these days. No So Adam people may be surprised to learn that this is not the first clip show we've ever done. That's right We do our first clip show happened in our second season

Which is hilarious to think about only bested by the idea that Star Trek the next generation itself had a clip show in its second season. And so we thought in a bit of very Adam and Ben style met a humor. What if in reviewing the TNG clip show, we created a greatest gen clip show in doing it. And so the extremely high concept thing we came up with was, okay, so in the episode, Riker has to experience all of these moments again in his memory. So we'll just edit in clips of us talking about the moments he's remembering into like, like we went back through seasons one and two of our show, found those moments in our show and edited them into the thing as a clip. But boy, I mean,

I'm going to play this. It really surprised me like how green we were as podcasters just based on how this clip plays out. They wheel over this, this rig of brain needles. And it's sort of like, um, you know, like the immobilizing cage, if you have a, uh, a severe neck injury, they'll, they'll put the cage around your head and they'll actually screw it into your skull. Like, that's a modern medical device that I'm sure you're familiar with. This is sort of like the horizontal version of that. If you're laying in a bed, the way riker is. Yeah.

And this fucking thing scared the pants off me when I was a kid. Yeah. Yeah, the effect is really good if the needle's stabbing into his head. Yeah, they're like, maybe like six or eight needles that are meant to be going into his brain. Yeah. And so what they're trying to do is stimulate his brain and the idea is that active neural patterns

will resist the virus for some reason. We aren't meant to understand that. Yeah, so this has the effect of putting him into a dream state and so this is our first like kind of cross dissolve as the camera pushes into his face and we go into Ryker's head. They beam down and something on the planet surface has caused the transporter beams to scramble them all over the planet surface. So Ryker finds himself totally alone on the surface of the planet and there's a very weird scene

where he like goes out onto a cliff and yells. It then just turns and walks away from the cliff and finds everybody in the other direction. Like basically does that thing where he screams into a thunderstorm? Also a major props to the to the set dressing department breaking out the dry ice in a real big time way. Totally. I think it's the first kind of primitive or undeveloped planet surface that we see in the whole series. So this is like, this is the unveiling of the like Styrofoam rocks and very close up psych that become kind of watch words of exterior set design and star track the next generation.

That's our first clip everybody. Yeah, should we maybe intro how we're going to do this from here on out? I guess, yeah. I thought you were talking. It was very disorienting for me. Oh my God, do you know what we just did? We just put a clip show inside a clip show inside a clip show. I know, yeah. This is like the end of Enter the Dragon.

Oh man. That's pretty much where we peaked at him. Yeah, I mean, you want to make it to your first clip show and then syndication is going to be not long after, right? Yeah, that's also the first time we talked about the clip within the clip is the first time we talked about anybody Canyon, which is a term we come back to pretty often. And I thought later in this episode, you and I could go through some of the weirder terms that we use on the greatest generation

and the greatest discovery. And see if we can agree on their origins and meanings. Oh, yeah, sort of greatest generation dictionary. Yeah, yeah. Well, glossary of terms, if you will. All right. ["The first U.K. of every star piece of this artist to the truth, find who they choose,

all the historical truth of best hope to..." Okay, officer, fish, and a troop. I ain't moving too much. I'm gonna go to all best, home troop. Okay, Adam, we've danced around it a little bit, but let's talk about Kevin X-Brit. Okay. Okay. Kevin X-Britch, maybe the most popular recurring character impression on our show. Yeah.

He arrives on Star Trek the next generation in the beginning of its third season. And once we met him, we could not get him out of our minds. I feel like it's weird. So he's in the episode, the survivors. And I feel like when I was- This is kind of what we do, right? We find at random tertiary character episode, the survivors. And I feel like when I was kind of what we do, right, we find

at random tertiary character and we elevate that character into provenance. Yeah. Yeah. And like a character that like a character that I didn't care about in an episode that I didn't care about when I was first watching this as like a nine year but now like I think about Kevin every day. Yeah. Me too. No. So this is, I believe is the first time in the episode about Kevin and Rishan that you break out the Kevin Uxbridge impression. I did it first.

I think you did it first. Wow. I haven't heard this since then. Yeah, it's it's been a long time I was really surprised at how this clip goes So give it a listen So Kevin disappears and we cut to a shot of the the doctor like running into Troy's room and I don't know if they meant for this to be the thing but Kevin is standing over Troy's bed reaching for her and it almost looks like he's going for a boob when

Tresher walks in. He's like oh I was just removing this music from our head. One One shong only. Hahaha. You're best. Hahaha. Losers always want about their best. Hahaha. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. Hahaha. What? What did Kevin get replaced?

Hahaha. I kept an aramious. Hahaha. Oh, a while ago. and get replaced by Captain Aramius. Oh, a while ago. So he just sort of, he waves his hand over her head and the music is gone. And he goes back to the planet to live out the rest of his days in privacy, huh?

I think the last thing is that they're gonna put like one of their signature warning beacons not to go around the planet. That is so emblematic of so many of our impressions, which is just like how can we make an impression fit more within our comfort level and ability of impressions. And like I just early on I just turned Kevin into Sean Connery. What a hack. Why did I do that?

Kevin Uxbridge sounds a lot better in later episodes. Yeah. Well, it's like, it's definitely like, I think that one of the weirder things about our show is that like, we kind of share many of these characters. Like, there's a couple that just you do or just I do, but Kevin is a character that we like, we toss the ball back and forth and it's the two of us playing one guy. Yeah, when we do we have joint custody of Kevin up bridge. But yeah, that was that was really fun to go back and listen to and it and definitely a character that that like there's a cosmology of Kevin Oxbridge that lives within Greatest Gen that has almost nothing to do at this point with the Kevin Oxbridge we meet in Star Trek, the next generation, but we're fully obsessed.

We named our company partially after Jim Jimota and partially after Kevin Oxbridge. It's right, yeah. Speaking of... Gives us great strength. Speaking of our company, Adam, this next clip actually is to do with the fact that we had to found a corporation at a certain point. And it was in the founding of our corporation

on the taking of our podcast from an embarrassing side project to being sort of a thing that we had to go out and like do real shit in the world about, that this next clip came up. This is the, so our listeners are called the Friends of Disotto, or our viewers, I should say, are called the Friends of Desotto. And this is the clip where we came up with that as the Nomenclature. Welcome to the greatest generation Star Trek Podcast by two guys.

A little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek Podcast. I'm Adaprannika. I'm Ben Harrison. Ben, I took care of greatest generation business yesterday. It's how business gets done. T-C-B. I spent a good 90 minutes at a bank.

That's a thing the people do. They just sit there and they watch a bank person enter information into a computer on a screen with one of those reflective covers to it so that you can't see what they're typing in. They're typing in bit of a dick. They're flagging your account. They're like extra dipax for this guy. Dipax all around.

You get a dipax. You get a dipax. You get a dipack. You get a dipack. Recently learned that the dipack was like an aerosol bomb. I didn't think that was the thing. I thought it was more paint like like like ew it's all over my hands and clothes but it's actually like a poof. Yeah. So what then? They just know the ear, that's just, it's just evidence. If you're poofed, right? I guess.

I mean, the answers are still coming in, which is fun. Like I'm still reading tweet replies to that episode. People have no idea what we're talking about because we are so far in the future. Yeah, I know. This was like six episodes ago. We should stop.

Anyway, I was at the was like six episodes ago. We should stop. Anyway, I was at the bank taking care of company business because by the time this episode goes out, this will be the first day of our tour. And we need to have a way to deal with the tour that is responsible. And banks are a big, big way to do that. The way we did it on our last tour was like, if we sold a merch item, we would take the money and put it in a box. And then at the end, we just kind of took a pair of scissors and cut all the money we had in half. And then you took one half and I took the other half.

And it turns out that's not how money works at them. It's not, especially when you cut through the dipack. That's why we're people paying us with dipacks. The feeling of talking to two bank employees, telling them what the name of your business was, having them ask you what kind of business you're in, and then ask you what type of show you make. I mean, there's just nothing like it been. Like the confusion, the the the the

the quizzical, furrowed brow, like like there's seven steps of podcast business acceptance on the other end. Like we've talked a lot about about those steps for you and me, but like when you're trying to do business with someone and explain why it is you're there. Yeah. Like, there's a good couple of seconds

where the lady, like, just sort of pushed back from her keyboard, leaned back in her office chair and was like, can't believe this is our world. Can't believe I'm doing this. What is it all for? I mean, this, like these people must have to open accounts for like pornography businesses and shit too, right? Like, one would hope.

Like, some dinging got a $50,000 loan from his father and opened a dildo store with it. The scene was like, I was very obviously working with a trainer, sat right next to this person. Oh, that's even better, because they could be like, this is not normal. This is not like a typical, this. I kept getting the vibe that the trainer knew and was a viewer. And I kept wanting for there to be some sort of code between us.

Like, you know the whole Friends with Dorothy code? Like, could there be like a Friends of Shimoda type thing where like if you were in mixed company and you aren't sure and you just want to like be sure in a safe way like all she had to say was like oh yeah I'm friends with Shimoda yeah that would have put me at ease so that wouldn't make any sense if you just like offered it yeah. But like they would have to offer it. Yeah, would they say to you, do you happen to know a guy in the biz named Jim Shimoda? That would have been great. And then I could be like, oh yeah,

we are business associates. We've taken meetings together. Great guy. Unfortunately, Shimoda is in the name of the biz, so that would have, that would maybe more of a tell than the, than the banker would have wanted. What's, what's something else? Uh, friends of the hood.

I guess that is a whole lot of, of different meetings too. Friends of DeSoto. Friends of Disoto? Friends of Disoto could work? Friends of Disoto seems nice and obscure. Yeah. It's second level knowledge. Like big, big fans of TNG don't even know who Captain Disoto is. Yeah. I'm into that.

Friends of Disoto. Did you ever work with Disoto? Oh yeah. Best Boss A overhead. How about watching that take on? That would be great. That would be amazing. So if you see us at the live show tonight, come up and give us a wink. Ask us if we're friends of DeSoto. And the password answer to that question is best boss I ever had. I love it. That was amazing to hear come together.

I know. I hadn't remembered that initially we had auditioned a couple of different versions of that code. Yeah, yeah. I think it seemed to me like you kind of like had the idea like before we sat down to record and we kind of like beat it into shape. But I remember like, so that was you getting us ready for our first big national tour. We'd gone on a little West Coast tour the year before but this is the first time we were going out and Doing the show all over the country and I remember I don't remember what city we were in but I remember that night the night that that episode

aired We played a show and we were like sitting in front of a full theater full of people and sitting in front of a full theater, full of people, and like from the stage asked, are you friends with DeSoto and in Unison, they just gave us back best boss I ever had and I could not believe like how well that caught on. And it's like a thing, you know? Yeah, ever since, ever since that day,

I've been approached on the street by a friend of DeSoto asking me the challenge question. I was in a bar in LA and with like my wife and some friends and and a guy came up to me and asked me in front of the whole group and we did the exchange and he was like nice to meet you and walked away and they were like what the fuck just happened? What is that? Perfect interaction. It's amazing. Yeah.

It's one of my favorite things that's ever happened. Yeah, mine too. Yeah, and that's, I mean, it's become a thing to do with the person and it also turned itself into like challenge coins that we've sold on tour on occasion, like the idea of there being a secret society of greatest-gen viewers, and there being these talismans and code words has made it a lot of fun to be a little bit embarrassed to be a viewer of a Star Trek podcast.

It makes me feel so fortunate that like the the listeners got the fun of that in the same way that we did and that we all can have that little inside joke with each other. It's really cool. It'll outlive us all. It will. It will. That was my last clip from our TNG review days. When we went to Deep Space 9, we decided to take it down to one episode per week. And I think that was like pretty closely

timed with when Star Trek Discovery started airing. So we pretty quickly had two episodes per week again with greatest discovery. Do you remember how much of an argument that was to take it down to one? I mean, we were, we, like, we went back and forth because it was very hard to know whether like we were going to even have an audience. Like every time we've done something that changed the show, it's been really scary, like going to Deep Space 9 by itself was scary because I was like, I don't know if there is as much passion in the world for Deep Space 9, maybe we should just go back and start reviewing TNG

from episode one again. Yeah, that was definitely one of our ideas. Yeah, I mean, I had an anxiety about moving on to Voyager, too, because I was conscious of the fact that Voyager was less popular than either a Deuce-based 9 or TNG. But honestly, it felt like a whole new wind in our sales. It's always been good, honestly. Every time we've had a transitional moment like that's it's always been good, honestly. Every time every time we've like had a transitional moment like that, it's always been good. Every time we get to the final season of a Star Trek series, we we're feeling like we're about done. We get a little punchy. But taking it to one episode a week was probably the best thing we could have done. And it's honestly made editing and even bigger part of the show.

And I thought I'd play a couple of clips from the Deep Space Nine years. This first one is from very early in Deep Space Nine. And one thing that changed when we ended our TNG run and started Deep Space Nine is we were not as familiar with Deep Space Nine as we were with TNG run and started Deep Space Nine is, we were not as familiar with Deep Space Nine as we were with TNG. So in TNG, every episode that we ended, we would talk about what the next episode would be, and whether or not we wanted to veto watching it.

And the veto rule just didn't feel like it would work in the Deep Space Nine era, because we didn't feel like it would work in the deep space 9 era because we didn't know enough about what we would be vetoing. Like DNG, we had memorized basically. Yeah. So we switched to this new thing, the game of buttholes, the will of the prophets, which forces us on occasion to record in an unusual way. And one of those ways is just to get drunk while recording, but we also often will record two episodes in one day.

And occasionally we will do a drunk episode as the first of two. And this episode that I'm about to play his season one episode 15 of Deep Space Nine, which is a bad episode of Deep Space Nine that we rolled into our record of already fully torn up from a the previous episode that we recorded. This is one of the friends of Disodos favorite episodes that we've ever done. Yeah. It's called Consensual Mornhammer. And this is probably the moment in the episode where we lose it, the hardest. So what's going on here in fairly short order is that it's not just Rumpel Stiltskin that's becoming real. It's imaginary characters are becoming real. Like baseball stars that Jake inserts bats into. And his Hollisweep programs.

Yeah, and versions of Jed Zia Dax that Bashir inserts bats into. It's bats all the way down, Ben. And it's disgusting. Yeah, so there's like an over-sex dax, a baseball star that comes from the London Kings baseball club and Rumble Sttskin have all manifested themselves and the the senior staff were like WTF mate like where did we get all of these crazy characters from Benjamin Chishko, Major Kira, the rest of the senior staff. I'm registering my complaint in an official manner to state that my real-doll business Is the foremost purveyor of fake characters turned real?

If you want to fantasize about boning downward somebody or something You come to Kevin Exbridge first and foremost. I've said it time and time again. My real dolls are bat proof. The Kevin Exbridge bat shield of quality that you can depend on for durability. Our our bookbook I famously took two Louisville sluggers in one hole. Around the office we called him... Are you gonna say fuck book I? Yeah! Oh Kevin! Oh Kevin, you've never made us laugh that hard ever.

I'm crying. I got a lot of tequila in me at this point, Adam. Oh, this is the dumbest episode we've ever done. That still gets me. Yeah, still makes me laugh. Oh, that's a, I mean, it's, it's funny to hear the, the like, evolution of Kevin and that because, yeah, that sounds very little like the earlier Kevin. Not nearly a Scottish.

I guess you could say. A lot of people thought Deep Space Nine was like the the serious start track. We managed to find a lot of fun there. We did. There's, I mean, I like, I have really been feeling like a, a new energy from Voyager as being less serious than Deep Space Nine, especially toward the end, but even toward the end we were finding fun characters in Deep Space Nine, and one of my favorite recent ones is T'laerie Kadevid. Let's listen to a clip.

You wouldn't think that you would need like tons and tons of lead time for an order of gach, but that's what's happened here because Esri is receiving gach that was ordered by Jadzia. I can imagine being behind the Klingon at the 51 flavors gach franchise where the guy just wants a noodle sample of everyone. So obnoxious. Yeah. A lot of murders happen in the line at the 51 flavors. Yeah, because they're klingons and they're very violent. If you get to Larry,

good David behind you, he's gonna tell you he's gonna give you a piece of his mind. Try one or two. Do not try everything in the case! It's just cruel to the employee behind the counter! We all have other places to be! Also, I noticed in the parking lot your red Volvo was a little bit over the line! So I had to be a little bit over the line! And then the next car that comes in, and so on, and so forth! And why can't I get these little spoons to use at home? It seems like the only place you can get a sample spoon is at a 51 flavors! Ugh, to Larry could David. One of the qualities of our show over the years is like we definitely inject it with the thing

that we're enjoying outside of the show. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. There are runs of the show that have more happy endings, clips than others. There are some runs of the show that have a ton of curbure enthusiasm in it. Like over the years that have a ton of curb your enthusiasm in it. Like over the years, you can kind of dane

what our obsessions are outside of the show based on the clips that we use to make jokes with. There have been Vanderpump rules runs. Yeah. I love citing different material and bringing them into the show. Yeah. I do try to keep my drops at like a ratio of at least 50-50. Like, I want to be pulling stuff from the episode we're talking about in particular. But I also want to like bring in stuff that it kind of makes me think of or,

you know, seems funny in the context of. Yeah. And I think one thing I like about our show, specifically, is like, we don't, we don't talk about a moment, and then you hear a clip from that moment. We talk about a moment, and then use a bit of dialogue from that moment

that kind of twists it in some fun directions. And that's been like, that's the fun of editing our show. That's why I continue to find it fun to edit our shows as the years go on. It's like, I'm always trying to get that a little bit better. I'm always trying to hit that a little bit harder or weirder in a way that works comedically. Yeah. And I think one thing that you've gotten very very good at in particular is like chopping up the dialogue from the episode to make the character sound even more insane. Yeah or like

or like you know put words of their mouth like you know connect to statements that were never connected in the in the episode Yeah, that stuff gets me every time you do it. And I'm definitely not as good at that as you are. I think when we started reviewing episode to Star Trek Voyager, that quality to our show really came to the fore. Yeah, absolutely. I think one of my favorite bits from that show is taking an early episode clip of Captain Janeway saying there's coffee in that nebula. And now it is an every episode refrain about coffee being in something from

that episode. Yeah. Like Janeway's like number one character need is get the crew home safely, but her number two character need is want a cup of coffee right now. Yeah. And so anytime like it's it's it's so funny like going through the edit because you think about like what does Janeway want in this scene? And that really takes like our review, our edit of our own review and takes it back to a thing that you do in writing an episode of something is like every scene that you write, you want to think about what the characters want and how they're advocating for that within the scene and that's how you like create dramas like well the character get the thing they want in the scene or not.

And so basically every scene Janeway is in is a potential scene where you could find her saying there's coffee in that something. Yeah. Because something is just the thing that Janeway considers to be in the way of her getting coffee. It's what makes it to delight every episode of the Voyager Run of the series. It's been great. I love being surprised every time I QA and up you've edited. I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, examples of this. Whoa, cool.

Okay. I think one or two of them have some surrounding dialogue, but most of them are just, there's coffee in that blanks. There's coffee in transport of room two. It's just a location. There's coffee in that ice cream. That outlandish, you know, you could have coffee ice cream. Affogato sounds great. There's coffee in the Polyfair and I'd be need to seal the warp coils. There's coffee in the polypharonite we need to seal the warp coils

Kes accidentally freshens up two Vax face and brain in a very disgusting way. There's coffee in two Vax That was just the kind of happenstance that you look for in an edit where it's like, oh man, like we're talking about warming up somebody's kept a coffee by pouring more coffee into it. And I have this, there's coffee in that clip that I need to get into the edits somewhere. Perfect. You can check that box. There's coffee in your optimism. There's coffee in the kind of tampering, the prime directive prohibits. Sometimes you really get lucky with the levels where it edits nice and smooth.

The background music is similar enough that it doesn't get clunky as you transition from one clip to the other. That's a tricky clip because there's coffee in that. In that really runs together as two sounds and sometimes you don't want the that. You want it to just be there's coffee in blank. Yeah. Yeah. Here's another one. There's coffee in that salvage operation. Sometimes you do want the that. Yeah. There's coffee in the other than the other.

I'm a little bit more in love with the other than the other. I'm a little bit more in love with the other than the other. I'm a little bit more in love with the other than the other. I'm a little bit more in love with the other than the other. I'm a little bit more in love with the other than the other. it really like transition nicely to me. Captain Janeway has had a lot of moments

that really pissed her off this season. We're right now in season two of Star Trek Voyager, really liking the series quite a bit. It's been a big, big season for Captain Janeway. I think part of the fun of speaking retrospectively about all of the Star Trek series that we've reviewed is like having just so much source material. Yeah.

And like what's interesting about thinking about the last couple of seasons in Star Trek Voyager is I think how dense it is with jokes already, stuff that we've come up with that are new just for Voyager. Yeah. So, we put out a couple of calls and we probably should have done this up top, but it is worth saying in this episode that we have to thank the Friends of Disodo who helped us by suggesting clips and moments from the show for this episode. We could not have done this ourselves.

Yeah, specifically J-Poop and the folks over at thedrunkshamota.com Discord group who you asked to source a lot of these clips and time code. But I also just put a request up on Twitter this morning and a lot of people called out this particular clip from a recent episode of our Voyager coverage in which we came up with the idea of ASMR ship self-destruct. She's got a friend in him, but he about to die.

And so she starts to put plans in place for a self-destruct. And I think this maybe, is this the first time we've seen Voyager self-destruct as a thing on the table? I mean, at Star Trek Law, you need to set auto-destruct within the first two seasons of any Star Trek series. Yeah. They had to do it at some point before the end of season two, and here we are. I love auto-destruct scenes. Love them every time. They're fucking great.

And there's a great moment in the bridge where she kind of goes into the corner where it should go to in Tuvacar, and she's like, hey, guys, I'm about to blow up the ship. Make sure nobody panics. Let's be super chill and get everybody to the escape pods. I'm gonna do it, okay? Look, when they did this on the D, it was a bunch of fucking kids and arms dropping teddy bears all over the place. We need this one tight and orderly. No bears on the ground. Picard is a fucking amateur when it comes to dropping the self-destruct hammer. He made it look like a moral crime. My moral crime comes later in this season right now.

I'm all about preventing the deaths of two million recotions or whatever the people are on that planet down there. All right, so just get everybody off the bridge. Just be super chill. I like that this is an odd of distract ASMR. Like, ha ha ha ha. Too vuck, I'm about to blow up the ship.

I'm gonna blow up our fucking warp core. Just all over this fucking sci-on XB. Never gonna see it coming. Okay, but first I'm gonna crumple up my orders from Starfleet because they're just printed out on a piece of paper and we're in the Delta Quadrant. I've been meaning to do this, but just, I wanna... In two valk.

Two valkylenins of this mic. I rub those ears into the mouth. You feel how smooth this panel is? You hear that? That's squeak. That's nice. Okay Adam, we promised the folks a glossary of terms. You're gonna find it within yourself, stand up, tell the truth. You don't deserve the wealth that beautiful. Okay Adam, we promised the folks a glossary of terms. If this is the first time you're listening

to anything the greatest generation related, you've probably already heard a lot of terms that you didn't know what they were or what they meant. This is just a total side-effective our show is that we've come up with this huge list of terminology that it's pretty much meaningless outside of the world of our podcast. Yeah, it's sort of the greatest generation showbible, really.

Yeah. And another great resource is greatestgen.fandom.com is a wiki that listeners to the show have put together over the years that tracks a lot of the origins of these things or defines the terms. But I thought that you and I could go through these. Just, I just made like a quick list.

And I thought we could see if we agree just made like a quick list and I thought we could like see if we agree on like what they're origin and meaning is, because I'm guessing we don't like agree entirely on some of these. Oh yeah, that works for me, let's run them down. All right, so the first one is love. I am almost positive that you came up with this term as a name for the amount of makeup

that's put on an actor's face and head area to play an alien on Star Trek. Yeah, I think this actually is one of the jokes that you and I made that predates actually making this podcast, which is there was a big run of jokes that you and I did on Twitter and in text messages to each other that kind of I think of as the kind of antecedents of us deciding to make a podcast together. And I think this was a tweet that I said that in season one, Worphs' make-up looked like it was made out of meatloaf. And so any time we talk about like alien makeup or the prosthetics that they put on people

to make them look like aliens in Star Trek, we tend to use this as a loaf. It's always low. Yeah. Yeah, the next word on our list is dustbuster, Ben. So this is something we haven't talked about in a while because the dustusters style phaser was such an early development in an early Star Trek the next generation.

Yeah, I mean they still look like Dustbusters on Voyager but they've gotten a little sleeker and a little bit more Yeah, the rounded Dustbusters look of those early TNG episodes, nothing like it. Yeah, yeah. It was clearly made out of like, Fimo modeling clay. And of course, you know, the deskbuster, be get the deskbuster club, which is the name for the away teams that would carry the deskbusters. Yeah.

Because you're always like strapping a deskbuster on as you get together with your buddies to go down to the surface. Yeah, yeah. The term slick back. It sounds like something awful. It sounds like a slur, but I promise you it is instead about there was a trend in Star Trek the Next Generation it is instead about there was a trend in Star Trek the next generation where characters who had gone through a traumatic event that involved the death of their parents slipped back their hair or arrived with hair already slipped back that we would then determine meant that they were orphaned by their dead parents.

Yeah, we called it the slick back trilogy, and then I think over the course of DNG, we found that there were way more than just three of these kids. Yeah. But there's like the one that like is, he's like a human kid that was adopted by like a general in some war like alien species military.

And so he like believes all this fucked up military shit. And like Picard is like trying to convince him not to. There's a kid whose parents die on an away mission. There's so many slick backs. T.O.G. is like in uh, of said orphans, which is another term from this show. So many of the terms of art, again, I'm going to put that in quotes for this show happen because of misspeaking.

And, and with the word Miriam, that was a word that I introduced based on a friend of mine's misspeaking. When they intended to say Miriam, they said Miriam, and I've never let this friend forget it. And I will never let the friends of DeSoto forget it because I use it instead of Miriam every chance I get. I was one of the things that blew me away about Miriam when I was like listening back to old episodes of ours was how early that started.

I forget. Like I was like in an episode that was earlier than I would have predicted. I used it many times before you finally asked me what the hell I was doing, which I think is, I think that suggests your patience with me and your kindness. Because if I had heard you say that over a period of episodes, I would have been like immediately, I would have kicked you in the nuts about it. Yeah, well, one example of that is Six Bay, which I discovered is a term that we introduced in the clip show episode in really to episode 22 is when I misspoke I said six bay and I think like I made fun of myself for it like as a defense mechanism because I knew that you were like winding up yeah I pulled the trebuchet back yeah yeah I just just I felt the ball kicking machine warming up and I

and that has become a term that we both use but also that was like very early in TNG and one thing that I loved because they talk about it as the infirmary in in deep-face 9. So it's been out of my life for a long time, but over the course of my TNG edits, I would love finding audio of the doctor referring to sick bay, and then another S sound that she made somewhere else in her dialogue and like dropping the S sound in the edit

just so so that it made it sound like she said six Bay. That's when you did that, it was such a delight. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha The origin of that is my wife and I were walking by a stadium, like a newly built stadium in Brooklyn, and she said, it looks like the entrepreneur, and I could not wrap my mind around what she was talking about. And she said, you know, from Star Trek, and I was like, oh, you mean the enterprise. So amazing. Yeah. So amazing. Yeah, yeah. Like she is very funny and very smart lady, but not at all interested in Star Trek.

And the way she talks about what I do for a living and like what characters there are on the show is very funny to me. Like she doesn't know which one is dirty and which one is data. Yeah. And that's always very funny to me. Like, she doesn't know which one is Jordi and which one is data. Yeah. And that's always been funny to me, like, if one of them is on the screen all, like, positive to me,

like, which one is it? And she'll be like, hey, it's Jordi. And we're like, it's not. It's not Jordi. That's fun. It's just not part of her cultural experience, you know? It's great. Like, the assumption that Star Trek is a part of everyone's cultural experiences, like, it's been really fun to realize how untrue that is.

Yeah, yeah. There's people for whom it's the only thing and there's people for whom it couldn't be less important. Yeah, yeah. And that makes it fun to hear about your relationship in that way. Big Rod is a term that's from our early days and something we still talk about to this day. Yeah, when we were first developing the show,

part of where the pushback came from was from the idea of a Star Trek Industrial Complex and their official affiliated shows. Being in the pocket of Big Rod was a way to describe projects, people, and shows that were officially sanctioned by Star Trek. And because all of those were inside the pocket, that emphasized the idea that we would then position ourselves outside of that pocket, where we have remained forever. Yeah. And I think that like, I don't know. There was definitely a lot of insecurity

on our part early on. I mean, we're very insecure men in general, but especially early on in making this show, we encountered official Star Trek things that seemed like that we interpreted falsely as threats to our existence just because they existed. Yeah.

And now, like, having met a number of people who work in the pocket, who make shows in the pocket, lovely people, all of them. Yeah. It's been, and also, like, speaking self-referentially, Ben, like, we're now in touch with people who work at Paramount. People who work on the show has come to our live shows and we've met them and enjoyed their company. Like we are, we're not gonna be inside the pocket

in such a way that we can't be honest about how we feel about Star Trek. We are getting a few of the benefits of that, I would say. But we're always going to be fiercely independent when it comes to our opinions. Okay, here's a more obscure one. Chaotic bro. Chaotic bro had to do with the very first appearance of a benzy on the show, which is like the blue wet alien who had a vape pen

strap to the front of their uniform. If I remember correctly. Yeah. And that name stuck. Every time a benzite is on screen. Yeah. And we're always calling back the chaotic bro that we met the very first time. Yeah, we uh, that a lot of fun with those guys over the year. How about bunk bed and Previa, Adam? Well these are names that we gave to the different styles of Starfleet Shuttlecraft. Yeah, yeah. The Previas are like the bigger, the bigger shuttles that you see at TNT. The round, yeah, the round looking shuttles

that came later, I feel like, I feel like the earlier shuttles on TNT were the bunk bed variety that looked like flat pack, bunk bed, Ikea, build jobs. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The ship definitely had both types at a certain point, but those like, those, the really angular ones we call the bunk beds. And they're bunk beds on Voyager, so it's fun to have them back. They didn't have any bunk beds or privies on Death Face 9.

And now I really missed them. How about this is one that's got a long and storied history, Natural Yeager. Yes, so in the first run of episodes in TNG, there was an actor named Biff Yeager, who played an engineer on the show. One of the earlier engineers was named Argyle, and the story about Biff Yeager and Argyle is too long to tell on this episode. But I developed such an affection for him through that story that once we started opening packs of Star Trek trading cards, I kept looking for a Yeager thinking that because there was a card for every character, eventually we would open up a pack and there would be our guy there, there would be Biff Yeager's face staring right back.

And famously, there are packs in circulation where he has signed his cards and the signed cards are in the packs. Well, that's not exactly true. So there are autographed cards in these packs and we kept on finding autographed cards of many actors and we had heard that there was an autographed card signed by... signed by Biff Yeager. What we didn't know was that the Biff Yeager cards were boxed toppers. They were cards included when you bought a case

of these cards. If you owned a collectible shop and you bought by the case, you would be rewarded with one of these Yeagers. So we kept opening these packs over and over again, seeking a natural Yeager. That is to say, a Yeager that was in a pack that we had opened. Yeah, that's been in a pack for 20 years,

and nobody knew it was in there. Not knowing that we would never find a natural Yeager. So eventually, I noticed on eBay that these Yeagers were sold for between $0.99 and $5. And what I decided to do was by every single natural Yager I could find. And what I, and eventually, and I didn't tell anyone I was doing this. Yeah. Eventually I unveiled-

Eventually I unveiled the Yager bubble as a concept, an economic concept, Ben. Where these are like planet money, but for Star Trek cards. I have 40 natural Yagers in my collection all bought between two and five dollars. If you went to eBay right now and looked to buy a natural Yager, they are hundreds of dollars now. Because-

And it has the largest collection of Biffy-Ager trading cards on Planet Earth. Yeah. And this despite the fact that for a long time at every single live show that we did, we would tape a Biffy-Ager trading card under one of the seats in the theater for a lucky friend of DeSoto to take home with them. I don't know if I want to do that anymore. They're too valuable. But yeah, that was a thing every show we gave one away. Putz butts in seats at them. Somebody could win a hundred dollars.

I mean, they don't have any other incentive to come to one of our live shows, right? Right. Right. So that's the story of the live shows, right? Right. Right. So that's the story of the natural yager and the yager bubble. Man. That was a- That would still exist, years later. We got to find a character and Voyager that merits that kind of-

We have like- Who's gonna be bubble worthy? And Voyager. Is it 2Vix? You keep telling me 2Vix is gonna be a big deal. 2Vix is gonna be a big deal when we get to it. The thing about 2Vix is he's already popular in a way that Yager was not. Yeah, yeah.

Alright, this last one, Mayquees, is one that new listeners to the show, I often see fucking hate this, because it's such a big part of Voyager, it's a big part of the end of TNG and a running thing in Deep Space 9 as well. I blame Star Trek the next generation for this. Yeah. There was a character on that show named Makewies. Yeah. In the episode with Kirsten Dunst.

Right. Yeah. And Waxana Troi says this person's name. That's great! We pulled it as a clip. We've been using it ever since the Maquis became a concern on the show. And, yeah, I mean, it's not our fault, it's the show's fault. It's just one of the many things that we intentionally mispronounced.

Right. All right, well, that's all I had planned out on the show sheet for today's episode. This is great. This is a lot of fun. This feels like a performance review in some way, Ben. Yeah, it's been honestly kind of wild to go back through old clips of our shows. I mean, even just the stuff that we played on the episode today, like I'm listening to it, and as an editor, I've got five years of this under my belt now, and I'm hearing

it, and I'm like, ooh, I would have probably tightened that up and massaged the way this gets said and done this a little bit differently. I'm listening to old episodes. I'm like, here is a joke that was right there for the taking and neither of us thought of it. Here's a joke that I wish neither of us had said. There's so many moments like that. But also, it has been really fun to think back on all

of the fun times that we have had making this thing. I hope the clip show was enough of a crash course to get someone interested in listening to the show as a new listener. Yeah, I hope so too. It's so much fun to make and that part hasn't changed over the years. We still against all odds, you and I remain great friends and business partners. Yeah. And it's been one of the one of the great things in my life has been the greatest gen and doing it with you. Yeah, man. And and and also like it's just a thing that we both find as the power to change the direction of our

day. Pretty common occurrences that wonder the other of us will come to a record not feeling it. And by the time we heat the mics up and get into an episode, we're just having a great time and then walk away from it and text the other person later like, hey man, thank you for that. I didn't realize how much I needed it. Yeah, it's so reliable for us and it's such a joy

to hear how reliable it is to a viewer out in the world who could use a little bit of a pick me up too. So yeah, that's been a great, great part of this project and it's one of the reasons we keep doing it and we'll continue to do it as long as they keep making Star Trek. Yeah, so subscribe to the show and if you're watching the new Star Trek, subscribe to the greatest discovery and leave us a nice review. And now that you know what our viewers are called, you can become a friend of DeSoto, you can meet other friends of DeSoto online and all of the usual social media places.

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