The Greatest Generation - A Fun Face for Science Fiction (S7E1)

Episode Date: July 10, 2017

When the Enterprise crew gets fooled for the tenth time by a kidnapped-and-taken-over Data, the skeleton crew left aboard the ship is their only hope. But when Geordi is subjected to "enhanced acupuncture," their survival depends on rebooting Data's programming. What is a Biff Yeager Unit? Does a replicator have an emergency rationing mode? What happened to Borg gender parity? It's the episode where we interview LeVar Burton!

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and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Welcome to the greatest generation Star Trek Podcast by two guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek Podcast. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison.

Ben, one thing we're not embarrassed about is a very special interview that we're beginning our show with today. Yeah, we usually, we usually sintillate and thrill our viewers with us opening trading cards or us opening presents in this part of the show. But today we have an interview with none other than Lavar Burton. I don't believe this. It is the first time we've ever had somebody not us on the show. Yeah, I think as a rule up until now, you get 150 episodes into something you think,

this is the format that it's going to be. Yeah, you don't change the course you're in. You don't do an extreme. You sure don't. But I think with a lot of things, you make an exception for LaVar Burton. Absolutely. LaVar has a brand new podcast right now called LeVar Burton Reads and it is a great around half hour podcast where you read short stories.

And if you like the production elements that we use on our show, there's sound effects and voices and music. It's like a fully produced, fully developed auditory experience and it's really great. Yeah. Well, so here is that interview. I don't know how much they told you about what our show is, but we have been going through Star Trek the Next Generation episode by episode and reviewing each episode. And where are you?? Where are you as we speak? Well, I'll give you a hint. An episode that came out last week

was the first one that you directed. Ooh, second chances. That's right. Yeah, and that maybe is a good place to start. I mean, you're best known as a television performer and actor, but you have directed a ton of Star Trek, and we're big fans of your directing on our show. I know Freak's got into it fairly early on, and it took you a while to dip your toe in

that water. What was it like to make that transition? The transition itself was scary, exciting, fulfilling on so many levels, and you're right. Jonathan was the first to cross over from actor to director, and it was really Jonathan's experience was the basis for everything that came after. I mean, Star Trek, what we refer to as Star Trek University, began with, with Jonathan, because Rick Berman as an executive producer was really supportive if an actor came and said that they wanted to direct, there was a process that, that became, you know,

a complete and comprehensive education in all aspects of storytelling on film. You had to spend a lot of time in editing with every editor on the staff. You had to come in on days off. You had to go to production meetings. You had to go to spotting sessions, scoring sessions. It really was an amazing opportunity to learn the fundamentals, the rudiments, and the fine points of filmmaking from the inside. And I'll forever be grateful.

And Jonathan, he really led the way. That episode that you started with, LaVar Second Chances seemed technically more difficult than a lot of other episodes that had come before it. I mean, when you have split screen, rikers, you have to concentrate on eyelines and stuff like that. How difficult was it for you as a director to have that be your first episode? It was really baptism by fire. It was an incredibly complex episode.

And I remember thinking at the end of it, really having successfully figured out how I was going to shoot two rikers in the same show. And I remember thinking at the end of it, really having successfully figured out how I was going to shoot two rikers in the same show, sometimes in the same scene, sometimes in the same shot. Having had to go through that process of working it out in my head, confirming that with the visual effects department and actually instituting methodologies that made the shooting on the day successful

and give us the elements that we needed. I remember thinking, I can do this. I can do this and I can't wait for the next opportunity. That was the thing, I mean, about Star Trek University, you got one slot, you got your name put on one slot, but whether you got a second slot really was determined by your performance, how you did the first time around. And everybody, the entire company's experience

of you as a director was also always factored in. Did that change your relationship with your peers on the show when you step into the big chair or because so many other actors had done it like you were familiar with how that relationship tends to change in those situations? Well, did it change my relationship? No, not ultimately. I'm still given a hard time by then when we talk about my first time as a director because there's a huge difference in sense of responsibility when you are responsible for

making the day's work, getting it accomplished in the can, and being on the other side of the camera, where you're really more concerned with your character and your lines and finding your light. So there is, at least, I'm not going to say for everybody, but it was certainly true, in my case, there was a bit of the asshole that came out in me. And it did not go unnoticed or uncommented upon.

So my friends pulled me up short, pointed out my ass holeery in the moment and we were all able to move on and remain France to this day. One thing you were talking about with the Star Trek University and learning about story made me think about your new podcast of our Britain Reads. I mean, it's, it made me think about the fact that story has been kind of a watchword in your career for such a long time. Like, did you feel like you brought things from reading Rainbow

and your other work to that Star Trek university experience that they didn't have for you? Well, I tend to look at it really through this lens in that I see and recognize that my life's trajectory through all of the different incarnations of my career have all been about storytelling. You know? And at this point in my life, that's what I identify as more than any other title, more

than actor, director, producer, writer. I feel like I'm a storyteller, and that's what my life's work was meant to be about. And I see as I look back on my life and career that I've been placed in situations throughout the course of my life, where I have had the opportunity to learn the art and craft of storytelling from some of the best, some of the masters. You know, I talk about some of my storytelling mentors being Alex Haley, the author of Roots, Jean Roddenberry.

Fred Rogers was a mentor of mine. And so I relate through the identity of storyteller very, very strongly, very heavily. So do you think you'll be directing any episodes of Discovery then? Or are you just all storyteller now? Jonathan is there now. I have, after a hiatus of a few years to focus on the business of Reading Rainbow, I'm back in the directors chair. I'm in the rotation on a CBS show called NCIS New Orleans,

and I just picked up an episode of another CBS show called Scorpion. So, you know, exercising that part of me, storyteller as director is huge fun for me Going back to the podcast storytelling as as someone who reads aloud to people That's some of the pure storytelling there is in my view So, you know, I just feel like storytelling is what I do that's what I am You know, and I just want to do it in as many venues and express

that identity in as many ways as I can while I'm here. I don't listen to a lot of books on tape, but I did start listening to your podcast and it is such a fulfilling thing to be able to sit down and have someone read to you. You've talked before about people who have approached you and said that, you know, they miss that. They miss someone reading to them. They miss you reading to them specifically. And it clearly means so much to so many people. And it's a big thing for them, but, but it makes me think, what does this do for you? What do you get out of a project like this? A personal sense of satisfaction, of knowing that I am fulfilling my destiny. I'm doing what I

am meant to be doing with my life. It's nothing more complicated than that. I love reading aloud and I don't suck at it. And it gives me great joy to be able to go into the studio and to read a story and to inject that story with whatever talent or passion or combination of things that I can bring. I get a big kick out of it. I love it. I love it. I love it. One thing that really hit me when I listen to your show

is how much tonality and you have so much control of your voice and it's range. And I wondered if you thought about that much when your eyes were covered when you played Jordy? I know for a fact that having my eyes covered for seven years on TNG helped me develop that sort of vocal range that I don't believe I possessed

in 1987 when we started the series. Wearing the visor made a much better actor out of me. It certainly made a much better communicator out of me and I attribute that experience a hundred percent for forcing me to develop a vocal range and an awareness of the importance of range as a tool for communication in my instrument. And without the visor, I don't think I'd be as effective

a communicator as I have become. So you're saying that's what's holding me and Adam back, that we haven't spent seven years with our eyes covered, so that's why we have such flat voices. We should be doing our show blindfolded clearly. Well, you know, at the beginning of the experience, you know, once I got past the initial excitement of being on Star Trek and, you know, and playing, you know, this blind man, once the reality set in that I would have my eyes covered for seven years, that, that was, that was a real, a real revelation.

I had to really get used to that because my eyes in the frame of my face occupy, I think, an inordinate amount of space and attention. And I had come to, as an actor, really rely on my eyes as a primary weapon, as a primary tool in communicating. And to have that taken away from me was, like I said, once the reality of it said in, it was a challenge. It was devastating.

And I'm also the sort of person who genuinely believes that everything happens for a reason. And so once I just surrendered to the what is to the process, the end result was, I believe certainly it was one that stretched me and made me better at what I do. This attention that you have for eyes, your eyes, and anyone else's, does that affect the way you direct actors? Absolutely. Oh yeah, I think that for all of us, the eye doesn't lie.

The eye has a way of communicating the innermost thoughts and feelings. There is very little censorship that goes on between the thoughts we think and how they're reflected in our eyes. It sort of bypasses the area of the brain that is about caution and censorship and those sorts of editorial tools that are necessary for survival, definitely.

But the eyes really belive what's really going on on an interior level for human beings. For most sentient beings. I mean, you look at, you stare into a dog's eyes and you feel a connection because there is one, right? And that connection is really communicated in the eye to eye gaze. And just like when you stare into a cat's eyes, you know that they feel nothing for you. Exactly. Because they're soul that they feel nothing for you. And never will. Because their soul is their heartless creatures. They have no soul.

They're waiting for you to die. Yeah. I feel like half of our audience just turned up. I know. Sorry, cat lovers. That was a joke made at the expense of the feline species and I apologize. Right.

What was your favorite part of playing, Jordy? I love that Jordy, in that command structure of the Enterprise, is the character that takes everything less seriously, or responds to life from a point of view that I can certainly relate to more than I could say, a Picard or a war for almost anybody else. Jority was just, he was more loose, he was more relaxed. He was confident in a very relaxed manner. And I loved that about Jordy.

I loved his enthusiasm and his confidence, which again, the physicality of playing him, it was a journey because when I put the visor on physically 85% of my vision was taken away, it was difficult. So one of the things that's really interesting to me is that energy, that enthusiasm, that sort of passion for what he did and how he went about his job. You know, that was an important part of the character for me. The challenge was not being able to see. When I put the visor on, I couldn't see

above my head, I couldn't see below my nose. So I literally had to learn how to navigate the sets without seeing my feet. Now, it was really important to me that Jordi not be hesitant at all, that that was a part of his personality, a part of his confidence was that he knew exactly who he was, where he was going most of the time. And if he didn't, he was all about faking it until you make it. So I couldn't like be tiptoeing around or hesitant always looking down to see my feet. I really needed to discover a way of moving without peripheral vision.

That's really what it boiled down to. I had to learn how to move without peripheral vision. And or vertical vision, even. It was a challenge. But again, it was a great challenge because it kept the character really, it kept me very engaged in the character for the entire time.

It's working within a creative constraint. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And delivering on the promise of the character. Yeah, was that was really important to me. Speaking of Jordi's personality, I mean, you mentioned before that there's this, this essential relaxed feeling to Jordi in new situations. Like we saw him repeatedly get tortured on the show by Romulans and Klingons and data and at no point did he ever seem to lose his sort of essential joy like that that might

be an unfortunate way to put it but like he never loses hope and maybe another way that that he was tortured in his character's life was in his relationships to women. With women, yes, yes. How do you feel about how Jority was portrayed in those relationships? And did you have any, were there conflicts between you and the writer's room about how that went? And did you advocate for playing that one way versus another?

Wow, that's such a great question. Let me go on record as saying, I felt then and I feel now the lack of success that Jordy had in his relationship with women was total bullshit, man. It was bullshit. And I recognize, of course, the writers were for whatever reason attached to the trope that it's the engineer, it's the nerd, right? That has that lack of confidence. But it certainly just went against everything else I tried to infuse the character with.

Yeah, I felt that too. And it was like it was a holdover from the original idea of Jordy, right? We were able to get rid of the idea that it was the blind man who flew the ship. That's a one joke thing. Yeah, yeah. And having the engineer, having you know, the geek, the nerd be uncomfortable around women was a part of that original imagining, I think, of the character. I would love to have seen them, the writers I'm talking about, move beyond

that. I mean, you know, even the Android had more sex than Jordy. And that's just not fair. Yeah, that's not fair. Well, Mr. Burton, we are just about out of time. And I just wanted to sneak one last question in. Ever since episode two, The Naked Now, we have given an award on our show for The Drunk Shemota, which is the character who's having the most fun or just being the silliest in any given episode we review. That's of course named after assistant chief engineer Jim

Shemota. I wonder if you could name the Drunk Shemota of the cast. Jonathan Frakes. Jonathan Frakes. Without question. No one, no one, has more fun than Jonathan Frakes. He's a huge personality and lives up to the highest principles of the Drunk Shemota imaginable. That's awesome. Man, awesome answer. Well, tell the people how can they find Lavar Burton reads out there. Lavar Burton reads is available wherever you consume podcasts.

We're on iTunes, we're on Stitcher, we're on Google Play, search LavarBertonPodcast.com and you'll find us there. It's really great Lavar you're doing a great job with it. Yeah I really really am enjoying it so thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. You guys are awesome thank you so much for having me on. Thanks again. Thanks guys. Bye. Bye bye.

Wow Ben, I was pretty happy with how that went. I will admit to being a little nervous before talking to him. But the thing about talking to Lovar Burton is that he puts you at ease right away. Pretty fun. He's got to be very used to a couple of nerds like us coming up to him and being star-struck, right? Like, that's happened to him before. Yeah. Yeah. He's a very safe person to interview, I think.

Yeah. So, well, I hope everybody else enjoyed that as much as we did. And what do we have on the show for them today, Adam? Up next for you today at Season 7, Episode 1, the second part of our two-part episode, the first episode of Season 7, the final season of Star Trek, the next generation, decent part two. This is becoming a speech. We're the captains, so very entitled.

Hmm. I'm going to type a ramble on about something everyone knows. You can go get a nice segue admission log, but you could never get a nice episode title mispronunciation like that. They are too good for that bit. Yeah. What did we leave our heroes last, Ben? Well, so we had Troy, Jury and the captain

in the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers headquarters surrounded by Borgs with... And they're all yelling and piracy? Yeah, they're like, Hodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhodhod Right in there, the majority of the crew are deployed on the planet's surface, and Dr. Crusher and a skeleton crew are back up on their ship in charge of that situation. They didn't give us a single scene of like the civilians on the ship going, well, I guess we're here, and everyone who could possibly protect us is gone. Like, who's running engineering?

I don't know, yeah, we never see who's running engineering. I mean, what is it like, do you want to be on the away team or do you want to be on the skeleton crew? Oh man, that is a great question. You know, Riker has that conversation with Worf that goes like... Run or run. It looks like we're gonna be down here for a while. He sort of resigns himself to the campsite element of this.

Worf, dig a latrine. And like, given that, I think I'd rather be on the ship. Like, it seems like he's resigned to dying down there in a strange way. Like they are really left exposed. I don't think their chances are very good being marooned there with the contents of one shuttlecraft to sustain them. Yeah, the problem with an oak savanna is that there's just not that much fat on the land, you know? That replicator is gonna burn out from all those TV dinners. Do you think that the replicator must have like an emergency rationing mode, right?

One would think like it just shits out like super calorie dense Cliff bars or something like that Yeah, it would have to what a great thing to have at a campsite though. They've been pretty easy, I bet yeah, that's good times I read that I read that book Trek Anomics and He spends a lot of time talking about how the replicator Must work because it's like that's, the replicator is fairly central to his argument about what the economics of living

in a star trek like Utopia is like. And it's like, basically, if you can make anything for free whenever you want, like what does that do to an economy? And I think he winds up arguing that there must be some deposit of like raw matter on the ship that feeds the replicator. Like there's no way to generate enough energy to like form food and shit out of thin air. Like whatever the replicator equivalent of stem cells would be,

like that's what a replicator needs to make all this stuff, right? Yeah, but like that's got to be some funky shit, right? Just like gray goop somewhere. Yeah, it's like a bunch of juicero bags. Like loading them up. Yeah, it's either juicero bags or like, soylent powder. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

It's an invention that could only have been made in Silicon Valley. Yeah, it's going to make you fart a lot. The replicator had to be fairly recent because up until Star Trek 6, we still had kitchens on starships. Yeah, they were still making huge pots of mashed potatoes. That is such an enduring vision for me. Was that pot of mashed potatoes seen? Man, disimpotted

mashed potatoes with with whisks still in it is maybe my maybe my white whale of movie prop to own. Speaking of movie prop spin, did you see Nubin Bug and Trapper Keeper is on eBay? I did see that. I tweeted about it because I was so excited. The exciting place. By the time the episode comes out, that auction is going to be over, but I'm going to tell you Ben, I'm watching it. You're watching it, huh?

There's no way it goes for the lowest asking price, right? It's starting at $400, and I'm telling you, and I'm really hoping my wife doesn't listen to this episode. If I can get it for $400, I will. Because then all I'll do is sell so one Biffyager on eBay. That is half of a BYU, a biffieger unit.

Yeah. In cost. I feel like, Adam, those biffieggers are property of upspread Shimoda, the LLC we formed to deal with all the various legal requirements of having this podcast. You're talking, of course, about the name of our very serious, very real business title. Yeah. We actually get mail sent to that. I think that Uxbridge, Shimoda, should consider investing in a nub in bug. I mean, we don't have a president or chairman of the board per say.

No, I mean we're not that kind of type of corporation. We are the only two officers are voting members of the corporation and we have we each have 50% of it so we can What's great is if we have to vote on something important, nubin breaks the tie. We do a spin the nubin and whichever one of us is pointing at. Oh my God, can you imagine bringing the nub in out on tour and doing like a game show game up there? Oh, that would be great. That would be really good.

Well, as long as it's a work expense, Ben, I will... What does the guy say in Jurassic Park? I will spare no expense. Yeah. Charge it to the corporate account. Ben, I gotta say, when we came up with Oxbridge, Shimoda, LLC, as the name of our company, the image I had in my head was the wailin' utani logo.

Yeah, I've been meaning to like, actually sit down and design that up. I've got like a sketch of it that is like, almost there, but it looked a little too swastika-ish because of the S. E. That's problematic. Yeah, I was like, I feel like this is like on the right track except for this swastika part.

And if we can get this swastika out, it could be a good shirt. If you want one of these shirts, hashtag usbredshimota LLC. Let us know if there's any interest for this. Building better pod. Cost prohibitive to make two, but I think if we ran off a couple hundred, that would be super fun. Yeah, I could get into that.

This episode starts with a big, long confrontation between Picard and lore and data. Yeah, and Picard, Entroy, and Jordy are pins down. Lore and data are above them. They're surrounded by these borgs, these angry borgs. The borgs have formed essentially like a breaking circle, like a... like they're all standing in a big circle, clapping their hands to the beat, and there's a unfolded cardboard box on the ground. The card busts a couple of quick moves, but it's very clear that they have not brought enough stilo to this event to beat the Borgs.

He's not as flexible as he used to be. Picard just can't help negotiating and like loyering right away, like he's negotiating for a hostage, which is a really weird tack for him to take immediately. Like, he seems generally unconcerned for his own life and the life of Jordy and Troy. He is singularly focused on data here. How about that data? It won't even let you talk.

Well data has been taken over and it's like, at this point, you know, fool me ten times shame on me. Like, it's just a fucking joke how dangerous data is to the security of the ship and the crew, because he is 100% under the sway of an evil influence once again, and they're totally fucked because of it. It has put the entire crew of the ship in mortal peril. There's a little bit of exposition here and data is sort of demonstrating only negative emotions in the scenes where we see him. He's snarky and snarling. He's petulant. He's just a real asshole. Yeah. Did you notice that all of the borgs in this scene are male borgs?

I did not notice that. I feel like there used to be a bit more of a gender parity situation. And they all have like rock hard bodies with six pack Batman abs and huge cod pieces. And they're all dudes and they're all like, they're all hanging together at this compound. And it's like, yeah, I wasn't expecting the new borrugs to ride for the patriarchy like this.

Yeah. It's one of those episodes where you're just like, like how did they arrive at the decision to cast only dudes in these, in these board parts? And there's a little bit of exposition here in that Hugh was returned to his cube and then shit started to go down on the cube. Like it went adrift, some boards killed themselves and starved and the toilet started overflowing and then lore found them

Yeah, they were like the disaffected white Nationalists that found his message very compelling and are we glad that it was lore that found them instead of someone else like One could imagine what would happen if like if the Cardassians that found them instead of someone else. Like, one could imagine what would happen if, like if the Cardassians had found them, for example. Yeah, or the Rhino. To weaponize the Borgs for your own ends, I think, would be terrifying, but it's a little less terrifying when lore does it

for some reason. Maybe that's because he's just camp. I don't really remember. I guess the last time we saw Lord was the brothers episode where he stole the emotion ship, right? So he must have had transportation of some kind then. Oh, was he still rolling with the pack leds

at the end of that episode? And then what happened? I think then he like met up with these guys and saw that they were all they needed was a charismatic leader and they could be more powerful than they ever realized. We are Paclids. Our ship is the Mondor. Boy, thus poor Paclids, not even good enough to assimilate. It's stripped the ship for parts and just blow the pack lands out of the airlock. Yeah, like this episode for all of the never referencing any past episodes that this show did up until basically the time

Moriarty came back. This episode references, I just can't off the top of my head, I can think of I boardboard, suspicions, brothers, and fistful of data as all kind of get referenced in this episode. Yeah, and I guess if you're looking for something for Jordi to do, getting him tortured is probably at the top of the list. We love torturing Jordi. Yeah, but they didn't find a way to get his shirt off.

Yeah, and there's like, there's the difference between being self-referential and just biting your own shit. And this whole episode was super derivative. And as a season seven episode, one episode, I was pretty disappointed in it, throughout. I'm not ready to be that disappointed. Well, maybe I'll convince you as we go. Disappointing people is one of my superpowers, Ben. I've always said that about you. The data is totally under the sway of lower.

Picard can't really get a word and eduize with these guys and they announce that their plan is to destroy the Federation and furthermore to kind of turn the Borgs into into suing type androids. Like, their goal is to make the Borgs totally non-biological organisms and have some kind of hegemonic digital control over the whole galaxy. One of those things is super interesting to me.

The other just reads as bad idea from a super villain. The reign of biological life forms is coming to an end. Right? Like, if what lore wanted to do was cultivate a race of people in his own image and then become super powerful that way, awesome idea, smart villain idea. But the idea of picking a fight with the federation, he doesn't need to do that. It makes no sense. He could eventually destroy the federation with his billions of new borricks. At that point, he can just roll over and crush the federation in his sleep. But yeah, it's an order of operations problem, I think. He's going with Plan A too early. Well, he takes all their dust busters and we cut to our opening theme.

And when we come back, we are on the bridge with Dr. Crusher and Instant Tate, who is a young officer who is really nervous about the fact that she is, despite being a blue shirt positioned at tactical due to her, you know, being on the skeleton crew. I get to tell you, man, I believe that she's nervous for that reason and also the actress playing her is nervous to be an actress. Because, who? This was tough. Really? Yeah.

I liked her. I thought that that was a really authentic performance, Adam. I wish it read as authentic to me, but what it read instead was, I just got this script today. And we have to get this before our day is blown. I totally disagree. I think that that nervousness is part of the character and I think she plays it really well.

And as bad as she was to me, Lieutenant Barnaby was even worse. Lieutenant Barnaby looks like security chief was his second career after training white tigers to perform tricks that Avegas Casino. He has got Seek Freed vibes totally pegged. I know. No one looks like him. Even in the 80s and 90s, no one looked quite as 80s and 90s

as Lieutenant Barnaby. Yeah, everybody was going for what this guy looks like, but nobody quite achieved it. I like frame by frame this, because I was trying to figure out if he had loaf on his eyebrows. Did you look at his eyebrows at all? Oh, man, I know you didn't do research

because do you know who Lieutenant Barnaby was played by? No. He's green roller desk guy from a couple episodes ago. He doesn't seem to have any discrete organs. Yeah, I mean, I guess you can, if you rip the loaf off somebody and make them not skin color,

you can just recast them in anything. Yeah. You know, like the way like on your lip, you've got all those vertical lines, because it's so flexible, like his fucking eyebrows have that. His eyebrows are so explicit. His eyebrows are like lips.

They are. Yeah. Like the camera goes close on this guy a couple times and it's like Like from one frame to the next It looks like it looks like they're doing like CG on his fucking brow. It's crazy He definitely has a fun face for science fiction That might be the most greatest gen phrase that has ever been uttered. A fun face for science fiction.

Like, sometimes you'll see casting calls that are like need tough-looking tattooed people to play bad asses in a futuristic cyberpunk movie. Like, and then the casting call for this guy is like, do you have a fun face for science fiction? Come on down to our Burbank lot. Yeah, you can tell that that Craigslist dad is not to be trusted. Yeah. Anyway, poor Lieutenant Barnaby and Tate are the B story here.

Their conflict woven throughout this tapestry. Really asking you to care. So I will say that like the big story problem with this storyline is that like we ended the last episode with This storyline is that, like, we ended the last episode with everybody down on the planet saying, like, you know, get out of here if the board show back up. Don't worry about us. And the second the ship shows up, Dr. Crusher is like, oh, fuck, beam everybody up. Beam everybody back up off the surface. And she confers with Riker and Riker is like,

me and Warf are gonna hang back, but you could beam everybody else up. And that just seems like of all people, why those two getting left behind. I completely agree. I imagine Beverly made the decision because, oh, finally, someone's gonna relieve me and take command of the ship that I'm ill-equipped to command.

Once they turn down, coming back to the ship, she is sort of stuck. Indeed. So she gets this, I'll just call him Lieutenant Loaf. She gets him back at Tactical and so, like, instantate is like, all right, well, that's great. I'm gonna fuck off. And, uh, Dr. Crusher was like, I'll need a science officer at the afterstation. Well, we deal with the rest of this shit.

And now, Because I literally need anybody at all at science. Yeah, because they don't have, like all of the senior staff is still on the planet. Like, where would Tate have gone at shift change? Like, she's the only one wearing a uniform on that ship. She's just just smash cut to her 10 forward knocking back shots with Gainon. Yeah. So they they

clear out like just as the board ship starts to attack and they get to the edge of the of the trans warp conduit and Dr. Husser is like, okay, this ship didn't pursue us. Like they just scared us out of orbit. So presumably we could show back up with that planet and beam out the rest of the crew, which is down on the planet surface. Like we left 50 guys back on the planet surface. Like what would it take to get them back?

Not following the ship out of orbit is actually a strategy that I agree with. If you remember the Huesnack ship I can't do it, never chase the entrepreneur out of orbit. Just keep showing back up, being inscrutable. That is the way to scare the ship away. Straight out of my playbook. Lore clearly bought my self-published battle strategy book. The title of that book is people and intimidate others. The chef-in-habit of highly-skisium people. How to genishage your way to the tip and modern businessman's guide by Kevin Oxbridge. So the plan is like we got to get like, we gotta get these stragglers and the Borgs can detect us within about 30 seconds

of getting into orbit. And we need like 60 seconds to get the stragglers. So they're working on a plan for how to, how to shave time off of the, the you know time required to beam up everybody and also how to like distract the boards for additional seconds so that they have more time than what is a lot. So that's that's our that's our B storyline getting started. It's too bad they gave away their only good transporter chief. That's not true Adam. Why would he be useful about now?

Dr. Mae Jemisin was good. Dr. Mae Jemisin is down on the planet's surface. Yeah, she's probably down there. Dustbustering, Borg's left and right. Yeah. You know, if you're the Borg's, you probably want to assimilate her. Hahaha. So down on the planet we've got data taking all the like communicators and everything from Picard, Troy and Jordy and he also takes Jordy's visor.

And um, Jordy's like why you gotta take my visor, man? What's up with that? The data's like because I'm super cruel now. I don't need a reason. But what we find out is that Jordy can see some like electro magnetic activity that's taking place where Laura's like broadcasting a signal at data that turns data bad.

Laura is tapping into the chip. He stole from Dr. Song and somehow he's found a way to transmit part of that emotional program to data. And if we just jerry rigged something to break this beam to somehow restart data's morality program, like we might be able to break this spell. They can't jam the bad Fifi's signal, but what they can do is turn the ethics program back on

and if his ethics come back, then he might not be such a bad ombre. The consequence they're going for is conflict versus actually removal of the problem, you know? Like the best they can hope for is a tie inside data. What they're setting up in this premise is that scene where Vader is like looking between Luke and the Emperor and like draws on the good that is buried deep within him and tosses the Emperor off the balcony, right? Like they're setting up like... I'm not familiar.

Yeah, it's like a different sci-fi property. It's called Star Wars. Yeah, the guy in the black hat, he's got that black helmet, got the cape. Oh, yeah. He's really upset and he just yells no all the time. And he's got James Earl Jones' voice until you take his hat off and then he's a shrimpy white guy.

Yeah, he's an ashy Faringy inside the helmet. Pfft. Pfft. There's our crossover, Ben. Pfft. I can't wait to see that. So, great science fiction franchises. Yeah. Combined into one.

I love it when we come up with a thing like that and somebody photoshopped it. And like, our viewers have been consistently great at delivering on these ideas. This might be the one I want to see most of all. No matter how stupid the idea, they should have picked that. So, Beverly's been given an order. The order, of course, is get the hell out, and she doesn't do that. I really like this decision. I think it makes her seem very heroic.

She's like, we can accomplish the goal of getting information about what's going on to starfleet and take a calculated risk at saving everybody else. So they go to the transorbit conduit, download everything that has happened onto a thumb drive and shoot it through the space butthole. Chief of the watch, Folkabooie.

Some pretty shrewd shit on Beverly's part. And so they cruise back to Planet San Diego. Their strategy for a time is to do that thing like when you're fighting with someone as a kid on opposite sides of a table, like you want to stay on the exact opposite side of the table. So that you use the table defense. They're using like a planet-wide table defense until they have to bail out and head into the star. And the reason they're able to do this

is because of a callback to season six, that shield system that Beverly was, for some reason, super interested in, comes in handy here because I guess they had the program for it ready to boot up. Yeah. And like, this was actually like a good payoff of a bad episode. Like, they have like this, this like this metaphyser.

Which do you think came first though, Ben? Like, do you think they had this one chambered and they're like, we need an idea, but it's gonna take a really bad episode to set it up. And the showrunners like, deal, it's worth it. You mean it'll cost me one bad episode? Fine. I don't think that they had season one of episode seven

written at that point, but that is fun. That's what my head can't insist. That's a fun retcon. Yeah. In our dramatic mini series of how Star Trek was written that is set in the writer's room. Drunk Star Trek history. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's like she's she's kind of curking in this in this episode She she she like Makes this this ship risking choice to like go back and get those guys that they left behind

They like head into the fucking picture of beer at the center of the solar system and like sure enough whole temperature dropping down to 7,000 degrees the metaphysics shield works. It was like, she fucking played a super risky hand and they managed to escape the evil board's ship just in time. Tate and Barnaby have been basically openly fighting on the bridge the entire time.

Yeah, Barnaby is like the sexist racist white guy of 90s office politics who like has never been asked to check his privilege or like accommodate the idea that a woman might have valuable ideas to input in the conversation. He's almost like a Patrick Bateman type character. Oh, he is. I did my senior honors thesis on Solid Dynamics. Excuse me, sir, but this isn't the Academy. And the student thesis is a long way

from a workable plan. Don't just stare at it, eat it. After my shift is over, I'm gonna go see Les Mizz on the holiday. I've gotta go return some video tapes. They holodeck. I've got to go return some videotapes. They destroy the Borg ship and Barnaby's like, good luck getting a fucking reservation at Dorcia now you stupid fucking assholes. The board collection is like USS Enterprise. Why are pages of the style section put out in space in front of the star?

Why are you describing a Kiwi Lewis album as though you memorized a New York Times review of it? Oh man, yeah Barnaby's just wanting a clear raincoat on the bridge. I just ran through four things I couldn't say on my account. The bit is done for me. Fun times with part of it. Let's move on to Torture Adam. Data is torturing Jordy. It's some kind of experiment that Laura has. It looks like very deep acupuncture.

Yeah, he's got kind of like a handheld clip show device where he's inserting clips into Jordy's show and then it leaves a little like nubbin at the like point on his forehead where it went in. What's the goal here? I'm ready to irradiate your existing brain cells. I can't even remember what they're trying to do. So the thing about these new borings is that in their effort to create a being that is closer to what lore is, they're performing these like, mangal-esque experiments on, at first, a bunch of borings, and then they totally fuck them up. And then the idea is to pivot towards humans. Like, let's start experimenting

on these three humans that are here, beginning with Jordy. Yeah, because he already has implants. So they're like, yeah, and Jordy presents an interesting case study because of the implants, but also because of his relationship to data. And Laura is like,

well, if I can get data to do this to Jordi, I know he's mine. Yeah, so I guess that what they're trying to do is like replace Jordi's brain with a machine that like they inject nanoparticles that like figure out how his brain works and then set up a copycat system and like metabol his brain and replace it eventually. If they're trying to replace Jordi's brain with a version that doesn't feel emotions in a normal way, I think that work has already been done. Why don't they just skip to the next step? Yeah. I mean, we see the horror of this experiment when Riker and Wharf run into Hugh.

Like, Riker and Wharf are outside the big church're riker and wharf were like outside the outside the big church and a bunch of borgs around them, but it turns out that these borgs are not with lore like they are a splinter group that that are hiding out in some nearby caves and They they bump into Hugh in the caves and he's like, oh, you assholes, I know you. And like, he starts out like, like, rip shit pissed at Riker and Wharf, but like, eventually it just kind of turns into like, exposition guy who misses Jordy.

Like, he shows them the borgs that have had experiments done on them and says that he wants to hang around with his pal. And he kind of gives them the keysorgs that have had experiments done on them and says that he wants to hang around with his pal. And he kind of gives them the keys to the castle. He like tells them how to sneak into the church and like sets up a plan where like maybe they can come back at the Lord and data borgs. I was expecting a little bit of a double cross here because what we don't get along the lines

of their exposition, like the underground new boards, I guess also met lore and were brought to the planet, but like if without lore, you are a shitting your own pants, Borgs, and like guy who runs into the wall style Borgs. Like how were they able to get off of the lore juice and like be self-sufficient? Well, I think that they, like what he's saying is that they were very susceptible to any

kind of leadership at that point. Okay. And then like they kind of became even further disillusioned when they realized that Laura was an asshole. As you do, you get a smooth talking guy, Talania, he's gonna make everything better. Make Borgs great again. And then it turns out to be a real shit show. I am a cute, just a ball. There are ball lights. be a real shit show. It was neat to see Hugh again. It was neat to see Hugh ask about Jordy. Yeah. It was a very strange thing to not get a Hugh and Jordy scene ever.

That's got to be like an economy of story thing. Yeah. Like if they, I think that it, I think we would have gotten it if they had gone with something other than let's torture Jordi for most of the episode. If this shows Todd us one thing, it's that if you have a chance to torture Jordi. You take that shit. Torturing Jordi is also like tearing data up inside. You know, he's like, he's like,

they've activated this thing that turns back on his ethics thing. And we have a scene where he and he like confronts Laura about it and Laura like flips up his fingernail underneath that he has some fuck with data's head controls. And he's got like emotional cocaine under his co-cnail. He really does. Because when the dealer takes it away from data, data is not happy. He's fixed and he's fiendin' big time. Data wants to come back for more and he's like,

come on, or I'll suck your dick! I said I'll suck that dick. I'm programmed in multiple techniques, Laura! Huh! I'm programmed in multiple techniques, lore! I'm programmed in multiple dick sucking techniques! Well, that would be more lore, because lore is the one in the Batman costume. Right. Lore is like, DATA, I would love nothing less than to have you suck my dick if only for the

implications of, is it masturbation Since we have the exact same body? If lore were really interested in what it was like if data sucked as dick, lore could take off his head and suck his own dick, right? You've been listening to the greatest generation, the highest rated most listen to Star Trek podcast. The Star Trek podcast that has cruised ahead of all others in in listenership for what reason we do not know. That hard hitting decapitation masturbation head cannon. That is like head like when you think of head cannon what you picture is lore fucking his own mouth. Oh God. This is it isn't it this is the bottom. No way

dude we have we have like 25 episodes left in the season I think we can get much lower. I'm excited to be on this journey with you, Ben. On the entrepreneur, they are still hanging out in the inexpensive Mexican, easy drink and beer. And Ensign Tate comes up with a plan where they can shoot, shoot a ray at the surface of the sun and have, and cause like a solar flare to explode the board ship and they put it into action. It explodes the ship and they are free. Like they can go back to the planet and start beaming up the rest of them. This happens simultaneously with a scene where lore has Picard and Jordy and Troy out in the main gathering hall of his evil compound. And he's going to challenge data to prove his loyalty by getting a body.

It's like a gang jumping in scenario where data has to kill Picard to prove that he is like down for the cause. Picard does a great job not looking scared here, but I think it would be okay if he were a little scared. Things are not looking good for Picard in this moment. I would be, I would be, data like shit against myself. He doesn't even muster a, don't do it. He actually turns towards it.

What winds up happening in this scene is that data doesn't kill him, and they, you know, they're about to take him away. And then Riker and Warf who have snuck in start desbust during everybody, and, you know, Hugh attacks lore. It turns into a real melee. And Picard is a deer in headlights

through the whole thing, from data like aiming a phaser at him to like Hugh bum rushing lore to riker and wharf. Like he doesn't hit anybody, he doesn't grab a gun and shoot anybody like he doesn't do anything. He just like stands there, totally stunned and watches as data chases lore off to, uh, lures like safe room or whatever. That's one of two major sins of this scene is like, obvious question, Ben, who's the most dangerous person in the room at that point?

It's lore. Who did they lose track of first? Lore. Like, he has got to be the target of those phasers, and they're not even shooting at him. They're just shooting at random Borg's guys. They're just randomly bulls-eating Borg's. It's just going to be like, what you and his team should have done is like gone in, you know, it should have been like shirts and skins, where half the borgs are like easy to identify

because they're playing shirtless. And I mean, like that definitely gives data the cover though, like when he catches Laura in his safe room to deactivate Laura. And this is where the fistful of data comes in because Laura is about to shoot data again and data has that quick draw game tight. Yeah, shoots lefty. Takes them out, we get another split diopter

of lore and data as data deactivates lore. And then data wanders out of the room and like sort of claps his hands together, like dusting them off and he's like, well Deactivated my brother everything's back to normal now. Then You can't leave data and lore alone together like How could anyone in that room believe that that's data coming out? They didn't see anyone get shot I would put data in cuffs. Yeah.

You have to, right? No one knows that he's not parent-chapping them again, and that's my point. Yeah. Unless Laura has like bulked himself up, and that is actually a skin-tight costume and not a Batman uniform, in that case, very easy to identify who's who. I guess. Maybe Laura has been getting into lifting. Back in the ship, data's totally unpunished. I guess data's feeling the closest thing

he can feel to remorse because he's about to phasor the emotion ship that he ripped out of Laura's head. And Jordy walks into for give him. Jordy's like, look, bud. I know you weren't a licensed acupuncture therapist. And so that was your reason for almost lobotomizing me earlier. But you weren't in your own mind. I wouldn't be very much of a friend if I let you give up on a lifelong dream. And data's like, yeah, maybe you're right. Jordy's like, maybe we can make a feature-length movie

about this chip later on. But now, let's keep this on your shelf. Data's like, if we do that, I've been working on a little diddy that I might sing. Hmm. Did you like this episode, man? Ha-ha-ha-ha. Trying to get out ahead of that, huh?

Yeah. I did like the episode, Adam. We've talked about some of its many flaws here today, but I think the things that I like about it are I like that Dr. Crusher gets to be Captain and actually like does some pretty brave shit. It's not like a, it's not a potted plant role for Dr. Crusher. And I like that, I like that data actually does a murder. Like he is his brother's keeper.

He's like, you're too dangerous to leave alive. So I gotta turn you off, bro. Like that's a pretty like momentous event for this character. And I thought it was a, it gives a lot of dimension to the character, I think. To me, the thing that destroys the joy of this episode is the Tate Barnaby.

And to a lesser extent, Beverly storyline. Because everyone is so self-aware. And so a little bit hammy about it. Like, when Tate destroys the Borg ship, she like fist pumps. And Barnaby is like, oh jeez, like as if surviving a Borg attack was in a front to the patriarchy flag he was holding. Like they're not on the same team at all. Their conflict made no sense to me when survival is the thing that they should be trying to do instead of winning an argument.

This is a very rodent-berry-esque thing to say, but they should not have been fighting that way. Like that felt totally alien to what we've come to expect even from like B team bridge crew people. So I don't know, that part was a downer to me. All of the Borg's stuff was cool. If for no other reason, then it's potential. But I was also sad that Jordy and Hugh never got a scene. That was a major relationship. And that was only teased and never paid off. So I'm not sure I like the episode.

Alright Adam, well I think our verdicts have been rendered and it's time to move on to messages of the first priority. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. A supplement? Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben we have two priority one messages of a personal nature.

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Wow, so is this people not razz or plevim getting on the Crescent plevim train is that how you're reading the situation? Whether or not this is plevim themselves or someone a proxy pleveem maybe? The spirit is the same. They got the spirit right, that's for sure. Yeah. This is like when data talks with the card's voice. I can't really tell the difference. Yeah, we have a second priority on message here Adam and it's from pleveem. And it's for Razz.

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The man, the only man who's ever been born with loaf out of the womb. Yeah, that scene where they blow up the borgs and he does the like fist pump and then it's like, I mean, that was pretty good for an instant kind of kind of a move. Like, what a fucking asshole. Raging admission. Yeah. That, that, that is so Shimoda worthy. I, I, I can't even believe it. Don't just stare at the sun, take, eat it. How about yourself? Did you have a Shimoda? To me, it could be only one person.

And in spite of all of the torture he endured, I'm going to give my Shemota to Jordi. Because Jordi, you have to let data destroy that emotion ship. Data who has gone unpunished yet again for crimes and misdemeanors against the entrepreneur and its crew has a chance to prevent one of the many ways that data is a threat to you and everyone else on the ship. In Jordi for whatever reason it's like, no man, you don't want to do that. Keep the most dangerous thing we have on board in your quarters. You never know when you'll be ready for it. That is ridiculous, Jordi. I think Jordi's brain has actually been damaged from his experience on the planet, because that doesn't make any sense.

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planet with a woman who falls desperately in love with him. Do you remember this episode Adam? I don't remember this episode at all. Not at all. The first time Picard was stranded on a planet he tied on a headband and then got crushed by some rocks. And then Wesley had to shoot a phaser to thing that turned someone else into a mummy. That doesn't this again though, is it? No, this is...

These are some fun ambassadors where one of them is totally obsessed with dessert. And one of them is like... ...is like... ...being a real shithead. It's a real fish out of water from our perspective kind of episode. And I kind of like, it's still, it is embracing the campy side of Trek.

Well, if you like it then, it's good enough for me. I will not veto. Oh good, oh good, because I wouldn't either. Fine, I won't. Okay. All right Adam, well that will be our next app but oh good, because I wouldn't either. Fine, I won't. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha give out some thanks, we gotta thank Dark Materia, we're a theme music and Adam Rugyusia for a lot of other music on the show. Gotta thank the great folks at MaximumFun.org who weekend week out, put up with our bullshit,

support our show in innumerable ways, and you know, like, are generally like really great to us despite us being kind of new to this, and not really knowing what the fuck we're doing. You listen to us for a couple hours a week, and you get a general sense of what our personality is like. Could you imagine us asking a professional business question? The kind souls at Maximumfund.org are those people,

and we are very grateful. Yeah. We should also direct everybody to the greatest Gen hashtag on Twitter, where you can see Bill Tilly's beautiful trading card collection, our Wisecracks and the kind of uncointurable comedy of our viewers, which is really fun, weekend week out.

It's a real fun hang. It's also fun to hang out on the Facebook group, the Reddit group, and the Wikia, where you can connect with other greatest Gen viewers who are not so Twitter inclined. What else? You can send us an email at drunksremota.gmail.com. Still answering emails occasionally.

Ha ha ha. Got a little bit of a backlog there. If we don't get back to you for a little while, that is why we'll get to you eventually. Yeah. But thanks for writing in. That's Adam's fault. Yeah.

That's sort of one of my jobs. I do the finances and the email. I do the, I really drew the short straw on that one. I do so much more of the email lately. Yeah, that's true. Anyways, with all of that settled up and squared away, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek, the Next Generation, and another episode of the greatest generation where we just cannot stop stuffing ice cream into our fucking faces.

Make it, make it, make it, make it, make it, show. We're gonna do a sync clap just so that we know where all the tapes need to line up. So if you'll indulge us with a 321 clap that would be awesome. Okay, ready. 321... Perfect. That was so much fun. That may have been the highlight of my day. I'm glad we could provide you with that. That may have been the highlight of my day. I'm glad we could provide you with that. Maximumfund.org Comedy and culture, artist owned.

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