The Greatest Generation - A Long Walk for a Dick Joke (S2E3)

Episode Date: May 2, 2016

When Data and Geordi get some down-time, they use it like no one else would: playing Sherlock Holmes on the Holodeck. But when Geordi sets the computer's difficulty settings to "All-Madden," Moriarty ...begins dropping bangers all over the ship, and has become an adversary more powerful than either of them expected. What is a warrior's hat? Is Dr. Pulaski a functional syntheholic? What does it sound like when Data takes a dump? It's the episode recorded in karate stance!

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Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm your other host, Ben Harrison. Ben we're cruising right through season two. This was an episode I wanted to veto. And- You were tempted. About 15 minutes in, I was still pretty sure I wanted to veto it. Well, I guess we should get right into it then. I felt very differently. Oh really? Yeah. Okay, well I'd like to hear about why that is. Exactly. Let's kick off season two, episode three,
Starting point is 00:03:07 elementary, dear data. This is becoming a speech. So the cat comes to very tightly. Hmm. I'm going to type a rambulant about something everyone knows. So, uh, enterprise is, it's gotten to the rendezvous point early. It's going to meet up with the USS Victory.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And, uh and data is wandering down to engineering because he's been told that there's some urgent business that he needs to discuss with chief engineer, Jordi LaForge. Shimoto is not around unfortunately. Yeah, Dei is doing that tight walk like he has to shit. He's kind of speed walking all around the ship trying to get there. Yeah, Jordi is working on a model ship, a pretty cool one. It's like a, I don't know, dreadnought or something like that. The original USS Victory, the HMS. Yeah, this model ship, it does not look like the sort of thing you could buy at a hobby shop and put together.
Starting point is 00:04:02 This is like the size of an executive desk. It's huge. Yeah. Real cool. Real fun to look at. Yeah, it must have taken him like five years to build it. Like it's pretty intricate. Yeah, and Jordi says he's making,
Starting point is 00:04:17 he's made it as a gift for the captain of the Starship Victory, which makes me wonder like why Jordi is like this is a, like if somebody gave me this, I would feel indebted to them for the rest of my life. Well, I had guessed that the captain of the victory was a woman and that this was yet another uncomfortable display of affection that we'll get to know from the character of Jority.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Did you get that Lovar Burton sounds like he's fighting a massive sinus infection on this episode? This is my gift to the victories captain Zimbada. I didn't, but I watched this on my laptop in a hotel room, so don't take any audio notes from me, particularly seriously. It goes uncommented on the entire hour, but holy shit, he sounds really sick. And I couldn't find anything in the show notes about it, but I'm just gonna guess that
Starting point is 00:05:15 Lavar Burton really rose to the occasion here. Could've called in sick and didn't. Jordy, a functional, he says, data I showed you mine. Now you show me yours. And unfortunately, he's not talking about ding dong, he's talking about recreations that they enjoy. So Jordi enjoys building model ships. Boy, that was a long walk to that, to that Where are we going, Ben? Oh, you'll find out. Don't worry, Adam, it's a dick joke, just like always. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Have you ever heard me go in a long walk that didn't end up in a dick joke? For some reason, I always expect different and I am always delighted when it's the same. Yeah, you are Charlie Brown and I am Lucy and. Yeah. And the football is a dick. There's another long walk for you.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah, love them. So they basically agree that Jordy's like, here's how I've been spending all my free time. Now let's do something fun for you. And Jordy basically tells data that his free time should be spent on the holodeck. Like it doesn't seem like a choice for data or something that he would choose,
Starting point is 00:06:32 but he pulls out a sack with a pipe in it and data gets the picture that, oh yeah, he gets to be sure a lot of coms again. Yeah, I get to put on that ridiculous accent one more time. An accent that everyone knows and loves. So they go into the holodeck. Program complete. You may enter.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It is Sherlock Holmes's Baker Street apartments. I will play Sherlock Holmes. And Lieutenant LeForge will be Dr. John Watson. And they are marveling at how great the holodeck is, which I feel like in these early episodes, it's just like a requisite every time they load great the holodeck is, which I feel like in these early episodes, it's just like a requisite every time they load up a holodeck program, everybody has to spend 10 minutes talking about how intricate the program appears to be. Yeah. There are everyone's really surprised to be there. Yeah, so I mean, like you have to assume that
Starting point is 00:07:20 it's like putting on an Oculus Rift for us now, where it's like, wow, this is so cool. I can't believe this technology exists now. The enterprise is an early adopter for this technology, presumably. Yeah, the thing about people in the future is they seem really resistant to the sort of addiction that we might feel in the present. How could you not want to be there all the time? Yeah. They're there and, you know, no sooner have they settled down talking about how wonderfully
Starting point is 00:07:51 intricate the simulation is than Inspector, somebody knocks on the door and announces that a mystery is a foot and data has it solved in under a minute. It's like, you know, the guy that he comes with has complained of a crime and data is like, he's not the victim, he's the perpetrator and he's, you know, in league with the Prussian government or something like that. Yeah, like basically as soon as the characters enter the room, he has solved the mystery and and torn apart one of the characters piece of clothing in order to do it. I mean, it's like going to the movie theater and walking past the people lined up to see
Starting point is 00:08:30 the new Star Wars movie and telling them what happens to Han at the end. Right, right. You know, he just, he knows the ending, so he jumps right to it, and like, Jardy is so angry at data in this scene. Computer! Rees program! Han is Leah's brother, right? And like, Jordy is so angry at data in the scene. Computer. Freeze program.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Honest lay his brother, right? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, you got that, right? And then Ray is Hans... Daughter? Conquibine. Right. Yeah. Who's Yoda's dad?
Starting point is 00:09:02 This is about as angry as we've seen Jordy, right? Exit. About anything. Yeah, he is real pissed. He's rips it. Are you going Jordy? I'm done. They go to 10 forward.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And like eventually he says like, I'm not mad at you. It's just that was not what I had in mind. But, uh, yeah, he says like data I'm not I'm not mad at you. It's just that was not what I had in mind but Yeah, he played like the Lovar Burton plays plays this in a strange way. I think we're starting to see a picture of Jority that is you know, he's got a real short temper. He's real uncomfortable around women Like you're starting to see the picture of
Starting point is 00:09:45 a man who really can't have relationships of any kind. Yeah, you don't blame women for being skewed out by him. His best friend is a robot. Kind of troubling. So they're in 10 forward chewing through their difference of opinion. And who should happen to chime in, but the exquisitely bigoted Dr. Polaski? Who always seems to be in 10 forward, right? Yeah, she's drinking on the job. Is she a fake alcoholic?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Is that her deal? Yes, Synthoholic. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if they've talked about Synthahol yet. Trugs can make you feel good. Yeah, I don't think so. You know, I mean, Sunny Clemens was real impressed with that martini, so.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Sure. He was an idiot, though. You could fool him pretty easily. Yeah. I mean, if he thought that guitar was good, he didn't have very high standards. Yeah, we can't trust his judgment. But they get in, what is in this episode and in like actual philosophical and artificial research, like a pretty interesting debate, like can, a computer intelligence, be said to actually be intelligent?
Starting point is 00:11:07 And the bet is made that data couldn't solve a home's-type mystery that he hasn't read. It's sort of a weird variation of the touring test, right? Yeah, exactly. And this episode, this is a hot debate. There's definitely people that fall on either side of it in the academic research world. And I thought this was a really fun way to introduce the premise of the debate and explore it a little bit in a fun sci-fi television
Starting point is 00:11:38 show type of context. Sure. Polasky's contention is that data would be unable to solve any mystery requiring him to use any kind of intuition or creativity. Right, he doesn't understand the human soul and that's one thing, you know, for all of the analytical similarities he has with Sherlock Holmes, he has this huge empathic blind spot when it comes to human nature. Unlike Polasky, who's bedside manner is like fucking troll. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:11 She's terrible. Yeah. You know, she is more in line with your average starfully doctor that we've seen depicted on screen though. I mean, Dr. Crusher is very unique in being a nurturing doctor with actual bedside manner. When you think about bones macoi, when you think about hologram doctor from startech voyage, or when you think about arrogant, thinks more highly of himself than anything in the world doctor from Deep Space 9.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Do you think the difference is that Beverly's the only mother of that group and the rest of them are Solo single practitioners. I mean Polasky's womb has been dusty for like 50 years And and McCoy I don't believe we ever knew if he had a family or anything It sure seemed like he didn't the rest of them were sort of rogue agents, rogue doctors. And maybe it takes being a parent to be a doctor with some bedside manner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 It's a crazy sprint to a restaurant, leading space. Are you not finding within yourself to stand up, tell the truth? You don't deserve to wear that beautiful. Data is, as is his want, a real good sport every time to doctor busts some fucking incredibly insulting language out. as his want, a real good sport every time the doctor busts some fucking incredibly insulting language out. Your artificial friend doesn't have a prayer
Starting point is 00:13:31 of solving a home's mystery that he hasn't read. He's doing that thing that your parents tell you to do when a bully is bullying you, and which is to just ignore them. Right. Which never actually works. No, yeah. It's only encouraging Polesky further.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But essentially, Jordy and Polesky make a bet that data could do it if they had the computer synthesize a mystery. Right. They go back to the holodeck and they fire it up and say, like, synthesize a Holmes-type mystery. And let's see what happens. So they walk out and into the holodeck and they spend another 10 minutes talking about how plausible the simulation is. And then, uh, the streets really do leak of shit. What, and is a real dump in this in this time period? But data is quick to solve this mystery as well.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And Polasky accuses him of being a fraud because the computer has gone to very limited lengths to create this mystery by just combining a couple of elements of existing Sherlock Holmes stories. That's their second try. So, Jordy is like, alright, I've got an idea. He calls the arch and he's like, look, can you come up with a Sherlock Holmesian style mystery that is difficult enough to confound data. Right, and I think he specifically calls for a villain that is smart enough to defeat data. And this is an interesting scene because we see, this is one of the first scene, Moriarty,
Starting point is 00:15:19 who becomes this villain. He is walking around this simulated London and he notices the arch being called for before Jority puts in this command which winds up, you know, this command is the thing that triggers the danger in this episode because the computer makes it a villain that can defeat data in the real world not a villain that can defeat data in a simulated holodeck game. Right, and if you're not someone who watches these episodes,
Starting point is 00:15:46 when you're on the holiday, when you call the arch, it just basically pulls up a big arched computer screen that you can then change your simulation through. Right. And it allows you to talk to the computer. It appears within the simulated world. It's not like it shuts everything down. So it's strange that Moriarty is noticing this arch before Jordy says that because normally holiday characters are programmed to be unaware of the fact that they are simulations.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Much in the same way that we are, man. Well, so already Moriarty appears to be more capable than his fake brethren on the holiday. Right. Like a can can girl comes up to him. She's like, what's that, Gavna? So Moriarty notices this, the program has been changed and Moriarty feels something. Like he has been changed by the program because acting. Greatest Gen live show is something you don't want to miss.
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Starting point is 00:18:49 We came two by two. What do you think? Ona Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. If I'm longing to fall back, which is longer than us at the PC, how do you want to go? Jordy and Data, like, start wandering around and they get separated from Dr. Polasky and then they hear her scream and they find her shoe on the street. It doesn't look like a shoe that would come off that easily, but... It looks like a shoe that would come off only if the foot was inside. Yeah, but the game is a foot. And this is a mystery that data doesn't know
Starting point is 00:19:33 any of the details of. So there's some discussion surrounding that as they start to investigate and look for clues, which is that data is really surprised that the computer was even able to do this, which sort of puts him in Polasky's camp in a weird way like he doesn't think the computer that capable in the same way that she doesn't think he is that capable. They're just kicking through the shitty streets of London. Yeah, they end up finding Moriarty's layer after a couple of tries. Yeah, it's like easier to find than you would hope a home-styped villain would be. But it's clear this part isn't the challenge.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah, like he's he wants to be found. He hasn't concealed his tracks that well. So they find him and he comes out and says, you know, I have I have Catherine Polasky, but I want to, I want some information like what the fuck is going on, and he gives data a piece of paper, and data like basically shits himself and runs for the exit of the holiday. What do you think data shitting himself sounds like? Like in a espresso machine on clean mode? I was just thinking like a handful of bolts and nuts falling to the floor.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Like you know in the great escape when they dump the dirt out on the baseball diamond from the bottom of their trouser leg. Just picture a bunch of know, fistfuls of hardware coming out the bottom of data's uniform. Perfect. Yeah, so data is tracking this stuff through the enterprise corridors because he's got to go talk to Picard. And, and Jordy's like, what the fuck, man? What's on the paper? And this paper has survived coming out of the holodeck, which is, you know, something
Starting point is 00:21:24 that has happened a few times now, you know, Wesley getting soaked of the holodeck, which is something that has happened a few times now, Wesley getting soaked on the holodeck and walking out and there being plenty of water still on him. Snowballs can survive outside the holodeck. Paper can, I guess, more yardie cannot and unclear why that is. But data gives the piece of paper to Jordy and Jordy flips it over and it is a pretty perfect drawing of the profile of the Starship Enterprise. Yeah, it looks like it's been traced out of some sort of technical manual.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It's perfect. Yeah, it may in fact have been traced out of one of those books about the Starship Enterprise that they used to publish. Books that we're saying that we never owned at any point in time in our life, that we will deny to the death. Yeah. Why do I need to own it when my school library has it? Yeah, that's a perfectly fair excuse for something that I clearly didn't own ever either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So they, like, why would I want to read that on the school bus? That's no way to make friends. No, yeah. That's a great point Adam. It hardly fit into a book bag, not that I would know, but like it's it's dimension seems like a little bit bigger than what you normally pack in there as a as a sixth grader. Right, and you got a lot of books and a six-grader just really trying to make any friend at all. Anywhere. Yeah. Who sat up front near the driver?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Are you talking about... Because she seemed like the only person you could actually talk to about anything? No Adam, are you talking about yourself or are we just kind of speculating about a hypothetical six-grader? So data and Jordy meet up with the captain and sort of alert captain Picard that you know some shit's going down on the holodeck and some of this shit involves a self-aware holodeck character who seems to know what's on a ship and that shit ain't right. Oh. That shit is wrong. And Picard to his credit is like, well, let's shut down the program. That seems easy enough.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah. They discuss a few options for shutting down the program, but the, but more already has taken enough control that they would have to do something pretty drastic, like run warp plasma into the holiday deck, which would destroy the holograms, but it would also vaporize Catherine Polaski, which, you know, like let's, let's, let's keep that as a plan B. But. That given, given warfs feelings on terminating pregnancies, I feel like that would be Warf's first choice. Yeah. Like, like, flood the place with plasma, one death is within acceptable limits.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Would that he had been captain in this moment? Yeah. He's pretty far down the command structure from the people that are actually going to decide. As they're talking about these plans, we get one of our biggest bangers of the series, like everyone in the room gets rocked because the ship gets shaken, right? Yeah. I'm gonna call these bangers.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Okay, bangers it is. Yeah. Computer, what happened? Attitude and stabilization control of the enterprise was momentarily transferred to holodeck two. One thing that they don't discuss is the possibility of beaming the doctor out transferred to holodeck two. One thing that they don't discuss is the possibility of beaming the doctor out of the holodeck, which I kind of wish had at least been discussed
Starting point is 00:24:53 so that they could come up with a fake explanation for why it wouldn't work, but it didn't come up and it definitely like, it that bumped me a little bit. But the solution that they arrive at is Warfin, Captain Picard are going to put on Victorian costume and go back down to the old holodeck with with Jordy and data. And that leads to a pretty hilarious scene right outside the holodeck where Captain Picard has like a walking stick and a top hat.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And that's one of those top hats that like flips out, you know? Yeah, like a walking stick in a top hat, and that's one of those top hats that flips out. Yeah, like a magician. Yeah, and he pops it out and wharf, like goes into karate stance because he wasn't expecting that. Ready to take on all comers, wharf. A warrior's hat. To go in and Captain Picard has a confrontation with Moriarty.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So what has happened is that because Jordy gave the computer leave to create a villain that could defeat data and not just a villain that is capable of defeating homes that is original. Moriarty has awareness of, like he can access the computer banks. He has basically figured out that he is a simulation on a ship. And Picard has to go kind of break the news to him that they don't like for all of their advanced technologies, they don't have any way of making him a permanent creature that can survive outside the holodeck, which is, which plays right back into the argument that Polaski and Jordi were having in the beginning, which is, Mariardi has self-awareness. He can do things that are unpredictable
Starting point is 00:26:45 and make him plausibly self-conscious. I think he passes everybody's touring test essentially, but they insist that he is not alive and that he doesn't exist in a real way because he is confined to this one room of this ship. He has to have that dear holiday moment that he had when he was Dixon Hill at the very end of that episode. He's like, hey, I know we got to be friends in this program, but you're fake.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And bye. Yeah. So the captain promises to make more yardies program, you know save more yardies program until such a time as they can bring him into reality research pending and Moriarty is satisfied by that and relinquishes control of the holodeck and The captain saves his program and they shut everything out down and and the captain saves his program and they shut everything down and everything is all good after that. And the last shot of the episode is the USS Victory showing up.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah, Picard sort of lawyers him. Mm-hmm. Lawyers them into non-existent. I am the future ball. There are full lights. Why did Wurf even dress up? Yeah, he just stayed outside the holiday the whole time. Yeah, that was a real bummer. I was expecting Wurf to interact with some old English people.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, it would have been fun. Yeah. The other thing that I didn't understand about this was, Moriarty was a mischievous character, but he wasn't really a villain ever. Like, he kidnapped, Polesky, but he, you know, he just fed her crumpets and tea. And Moriarty in the books is supposed to be evil, right?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Right, I think he's supposed to essentially be a psychopath. Like, he is willing to use any amount of violence to achieve his ends because he doesn't have any, like, feeling for, I mean, I haven't, I'm not like steeped in Arthur Conan Doyle or anything, but like he is the opposite of Holmes, right? Like in that he, he's like a genius, but he has no scruples. Do you think that the, that the subtle message there is that with knowledge you can't help but
Starting point is 00:29:02 be less evil? Like, like as soon as he's granted all of the ship's knowledge through the computer, like he decides that being a bad person is a pretty shitty path and he just decides to be malevolently neutral. Yeah. Yeah, chaotic neutral. I don Yeah. Chaotic neutral. I don't know. I, uh, he would be chaotic neutral, wouldn't he?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. It's a strange choice because I think that it would have been a much trickier challenge to satisfy a character that is, in fact evil, like that is bent on self-betterment at the expense of any and all others. It would have been much harder for Picard to overcome. Yeah, if more yard was armist, things would have turned out a lot differently. So nice of the computer to make a villain that was not a psychopath, I guess But I never felt like any there was any actual danger. So it's really just kind of a it's it's an interesting It's an interesting dive into the idea of computer intelligence and what it means
Starting point is 00:30:22 and But unfortunately just kind of rests on this dumb plot device of like, oh, we just told the computer to make something as advanced as data, which is like, the other thing is like, Nunean's Zoom is the only person in the universe that has ever been known to be able to create something as advanced as data.
Starting point is 00:30:40 So the computer can do it by accident? What? Yeah. Yeah, that seems to be a thing that they should do more about. Yeah. What did you think of the episode as a whole? I was remembering it worse than it seemed to me. You know, I remember it in episode that I didn't like very much.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You know, I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. I really enjoyed watching it. I thought it was better than I remembered. I feel like it does have some key flaws, but. Yeah, the story I thought was okay. Moriarty was great. I thought the guy who played him did a great job. His character was pretty interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:31:22 The worst parts were Jordy and Data talking in accents. Like, that's just really grating to me. That was pretty interesting to me. The worst parts were Jordy and Data talking in accents. Like, that's just really grating to me. That was pretty rough. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda figure in this episode? RUNCHIMODE! Sure. Our drunk Shimoda award is, goes to any character or thing that has an effect on the story, similar to Assistant chief engineer Jim
Starting point is 00:31:46 Shremota in episode two. That's a concise way to put it. Yeah. So Polasky was my drunk Shremota in this episode because she kind of starts the episode as like one of the key agents of the storyline and she winds up just sitting on a couch eating crumpets and sipping tea the entire time. She makes no attempt to like radio out to the ship. You know, like when it becomes clear that Moriarty is more capable than he should be, she doesn't seem to have any kind of escape plan in the works and is totally content
Starting point is 00:32:24 to just let everybody else sweat all of the details of rescuing her. Like a lot of drunks, she just hangs out in the bar mostly and and spits just robot racist comments whenever she can. Real awkward. How about you Adam? For me, I had a, I had Jordy for the Shimoda in this episode. Mostly because like emotionally he was all over the place. Like he was real happy and proud with the, with the model ship. He was explosively angry with data when he ruined the, when he ruined the program early on, when they were trying to sell the mystery
Starting point is 00:33:05 in its first version. And then he also did that thing where he accidentally said something to the computer that had some terrible consequences. And that to me seems like a pretty drunk thing to do as well. You get one word off, and all of a sudden the computer is creating a program that could kill you.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. Got to be more careful, man. Dangerous times living on the starship enterprise. Imagine, God, if Riker said one wrong word in his sex booth, he's dead. He's just a drowned in a wave of flesh. I am la cutes aboard. You will respond to my questions. I am la cutes aboard. You are bored. All right, what do we have coming up next
Starting point is 00:33:52 on our next exciting episode in season two? The next episode, episode four of season two, the outrageous Okhana. While the Enterprise crew plays host to a witty renegade captain. Data struggles to acquire a sense of humor. Do you remember this episode? Is this whole season just going to be about data trying to figure out what being a human
Starting point is 00:34:13 is like? Yeah, that puts it as a two in a row, at least. I mean, I know I saw this episode originally when it came out, but I don't remember anything about it. And in that way, I think it just blends into every episode where data does something annoying to figure out what it's like to be human. Well, does your video tempt you once more
Starting point is 00:34:36 or are you willing to do this one of college try? I'm curious enough about it because I remember so little that I think I do want to see it. Okay. See, do do want to see it. Okay. Um, see, do I want to see it? I think I do. All right. I'm not going to veto.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a Joe Piscopo episode. Sure. Gotta see that. Gotta see that, Pisc. That Pisc, son. That Pisc, though. Well, we have enjoyed talking to you, Fairlis and Earl, about this episode of Star Trek the Next Generation.
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